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This edition of the antiques series comes from Manchester's Museum of Science and Industry, where Paul Martin is joined by experts Caroline Hawley and Michael Baggott.


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The city today has a long association with this, TV.

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It's home to the world's longest-running soap drama.

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CORONATION STREET THEME TUNE

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And the award-winning programmes such as a Mastermind...

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and Question Of Sport.

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And just a few miles down the road, there's a media hub which

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boasts state-of-the-art technology for the BBC.

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ITV and dozens of other creative companies.

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The city with a massive reputation for media is of course Manchester.

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Welcome to Flog It.

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Manchester's media legacy is not just confined to the box.

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In 1821, a local newspaper called the Manchester Guardian,

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was formed by cotton merchant, John Edward Taylor.

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It became nationally important

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and nearly 200 years later is still found on newsstands

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across the country, albeit with a slightly different name.

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And you can read all about it at our Flog It location,

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the Museum of Science and Industry.

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The front-page news starts here

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at the doors of our Flog It valuation day.

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We've got our cameras ready to record the moment some lucky

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person here in this queue makes a small fortune

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later on in the programme at auction.

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And sniffing out the stories

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and checking the facts are Caroline Hawley...

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Goodness me!

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She's lovely. We'll show your bust inside, sir. When you get in.

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And Michael Baggot.

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-Bless you for coming out - not the best day in Manchester today.

-I know, I'm frozen.

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But everyone's turned out, isn't it lovely?

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Oh yea! Oh yea! Oh yea! Flog It's in town.

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Yes, we are here!

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And we better get the doors open to our fantastic venue today.

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The Museum of Science and Industry charts Manchester's integral

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role in the Industrial Revolution, from a working example

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of a treacherous loom, to the steam engines that powered it all.

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The MOSI also holds a huge archive of material relating to

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Manchester's history.

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And later in the show, I get the chance to read the first ever

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edition of the Manchester Guardian.

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I explored the city's forgotten film industry.

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And this lady gets a rather large surprise.

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Flog It, Flog It, Flog It, Flog It, Flog It.

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That's what it's all about here today.

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Hundreds of people have turned up.

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They're all safely seated inside hoping

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they're one of the lucky ones to go through to the auction later on.

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Our experts are now at the valuation tables,

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so let's catch up with Caroline and see what she's found.

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I'm joined by Vic, Huddersfield's town crier,

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-who really has brought something to shout about.

-Yeah, hopefully.

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-Can we look inside?

-Yes, certainly. By all means.

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What a lovely piece.

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Well, this piece of jewellery was given to me after I'd done

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a little job at the Town Hall in Huddersfield for Age Concern.

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The lady in charge had asked all the ladies in the audience

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if they'd any pieces of jewellery,

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would they like to donate it to me because I was going to

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-try for the most pieces of jewellery on the costume.

-Right.

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And I got a message that this had been left.

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I went along and she left me this card and then the local paper picked

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it up because of the provenance, and so I've brought it along today.

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And the provenance is what?

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-The provenance is that belonged to Charlie Chaplin.

-Wow.

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-Apparently he married the lady's mother...

-Right.

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In a round about 1905.

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So Charlie bought this for his wife?

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-For his wife at the time.

-Yes, at the time.

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-He was a bit of a lad, was Charlie.

-Was he? Tell me.

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He was married three, four times over the years.

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-So he'd have to do by quite a bit of jewellery.

-Yes.

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This is a lovely piece.

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It's around turn-of-the-century, so that would tie in.

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Sadly, it's not diamonds. It's paste.

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It's just silver plated on brass, you can see here.

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I don't know if you've noticed,

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-there's more to this little brooch than meets the eye.

-Oh, yes.

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It's a brooch here, but we can unclip these,

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so you've got the brooch and then these double as lapel badges.

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We thought they were earrings at first,

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but then you see the big points in them.

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They'd make a hell of a mess of your ears!

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They've got big, sharp teeth to clip onto lapels.

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Which are really lovely, so you get three bits of jewellery for the price of one.

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-So he was a mean old chaplain, wasn't he?

-Yes, he was.

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But very nice indeed, so we've got a letter here which gives us

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brilliant provenance from the daughter of Charlie Chaplin stating

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this is her mother's jewel, given by her father, Charlie Chaplin.

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And then a press cutting about you receiving

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the jewel from Charlie Chaplin's daughter.

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But as a piece of jewellery by itself,

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it isn't worth a huge amounts of money, £10, £20, that sort of thing.

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But with all this, I think it's going to get a premium.

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-So I would say...£40-£60. Are you happy with that?

-Yes, absolutely.

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We're running the Town Crier Championships this year

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in Huddersfield, so it's all going towards that.

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That will be a noisy event? Oh, yes!

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25 town criers, all their wives in their troop, crinoline dresses.

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-Oh, and what's the collective term?

-A cacophony of town criers.

-Is it?

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Cacophony of town criers, yes.

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I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

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-Yes, it'll be nice, I shall enjoy that. Thank you very much.

-Brilliant.

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The experts at the auction house will research this provenance

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and try to validate it.

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That's the great thing about selling at auction.

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Caroline's not the only expert to spot a sparkler today,

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but can you guess what's in this box?

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Nicky, Maddie, thanks for coming along today

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and bringing some jewellery with you.

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These aren't things you're tempted, either of you, to wear?

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I haven't been tempted.

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Nicola used to wear the bracelet when she was a little girl.

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My mum used to give it to her to dress up in.

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This is a charm bracelet, it's a relatively early one,

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early part of the 20th century.

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You've got all the individual charms.

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It isn't something that's greatly of intrinsic value

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and artistically, it's something we see a lot of.

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So really, that's its weight in gold in terms of value.

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-So that worth about £100-£150.

-Right.

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What's much more interesting,

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and the reason I grabbed you both is the contents of the mystery box.

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-Shall we open the mystery box?

-Yes, please.

-Don't be scared.

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THEY GIGGLE

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Good God!

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I don't want to offend you but that has to be possibly the most

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grotesque pair of earrings I've ever seen in my life.

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-That's why we're trying to flog it.

-We agree!

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You've basically got something that's supposed to be

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a branch of coral or something. But with a fly on it!

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You get bumblebees, you get dragonflies.

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You don't get flies on things.

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And then you've got this sort of disembodied hand hanging down

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and from it you've got this little heart.

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The main parts are carved in Mother of Pearl

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and then they're set with coral, which makes me think, especially from

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the way it's constructed that it's from around the Mediterranean area.

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-Yeah.

-Have you got any family history with this?

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My grandmother is from Las Palmas, Gran Canaria.

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Perfect. A sort of Spanish feel, Mediterranean jewellery.

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Of course, the coral was supposed to protect you from evil.

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So you would wear them, bad things wouldn't happen to you.

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They're quite old. Have you any idea when they were made?

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I think they might be about 100 years old.

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Probably a little bit earlier than that.

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They're probably about 1860, 1880.

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Really?! Oh, my God!

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Value is difficult because we've got one little fly missing

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and a little heart missing.

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But sometimes things come along that are so quirky, you give them a go.

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Give them a go at auction. I think...

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£40-£80 and put a fixed reserve of £30 on them.

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Because that's intrinsic value of the materials.

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We'll see, they might make 100 quid, they might make 30.

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We've got 100 to 150 for the bracelet and a fixed reserve of 100 on that.

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So, if we get the top end, what are the plans for the money?

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Buy more beads and make my own jewellery.

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-You make your own jewellery?!

-Yeah.

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I can't think of any better thing to do than to sell something old

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and outdated and make something new and beautiful with it.

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Marvellous, let's hope they do really well on the day.

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-Thank you.

-Thanks very much.

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Love them or hate them, they are up for auction.

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Will anyone want to give these quirky earrings a new home?

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Now, earlier on in the show I mentioned the Guardian newspaper

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started out life here in Manchester and in front of me

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is a copy of one of the very first editions.

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It came out on 5th May in 1821.

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At a cover price of seven old pence, which is equivalent

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to about £1.22 in today's money.

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It was only published once a week

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because the stamp duty on newspapers was incredibly high.

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When the stamp duty was cut in 1836, it was published twice a week,

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it came out on Wednesday and Saturday.

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Now, if you notice, on the front page,

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it's not actually given over to any headline news.

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All the news is on the second page. But look at this, number one, right.

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The very first edition.

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But look it starts with an advert for a lost dog.

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"A black Newfoundland bitch.

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Any person having lost the same may have her again...

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..on describing her marks and paying all the expenses."

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Isn't this marvellous?

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Absolutely incredible.

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The condition is pretty good really,

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considering this would have been read time and time again and

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probably passed on to two or three different other people to read.

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Here we are in the Power Hall, surrounded by the noisy,

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steamy engines and all that made Manchester great.

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To the peaceful pastime of card playing.

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And this lovely box. Tell me about it, Edna.

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I bought it at a car-boot sale about five years ago.

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-Do you remember what you paid for it?

-£10.

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£10! I love it. Do you?

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I do, I like it, it's just been on top of the piano in my dining room.

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You don't play cards?

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-Play the odd game of snap.

-Do you?

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-That it.

-Let's have a look at it.

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It's walnut, mid-Victorian.

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Gilded brass edges to it,

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it's amounted with ivory cards on the top.

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It's a really lovely, quality thing.

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-Shall we look inside?

-Yes

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This would have long to a fairly wealthy family.

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It's very, very good quality.

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It's lying in watermarked silk taffeta...at the top.

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Beautiful condition.

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Even the little pulls here that pull out the cards,

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perfect condition.

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Possibly would have been two other packs of cards there.

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-And I think in here there would have been counters.

-Oh, would they? right.

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And these here, are square cut cards

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because the modern cards are rounded edges, aren't they?

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Now, it's all indicative of quality, taste.

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Somebody, perhaps made wealthy by the Industrial Revolution

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-in Manchester. A wealthy card player.

-Yeah.

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I think there's lots of all would want it,

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not least the bridge players, poker players.

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I would put a valuation on this of between £100 and £200.

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SHE GASPS

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-You happy with that?

-Very.

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Good, that's a fair return on your £10 investment.

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There you are, you've just seen them,

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three wonderful items are experts have picked out.

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I've got my favourite, you've probably got yours, but right now

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it's time to put those valuations to the test in the saleroom.

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So while we make our way over to the auction room, here's a quick

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recap, just to jog your memory of everything that's coming with us.

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This brooch and lapel badges have a great story behind them,

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but will the auction house confirm the provenance?

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The gold bracelet has a high intrinsic value,

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so it's a sure-fire winner, but that can't be said of the earrings.

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Will anyone fall in love with them

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or will the damage the "fly" in the ointment!

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And Edna's Victorian card case is adorned with ivory cards.

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And because they were made before 1947,

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it's legal to sell them at auction.

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But what profit will she see on her £10 car boot investment?

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Just about ten miles from Manchester city centre,

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you find the historic town of Knutsford.

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This is where our auction is coming from today,

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courtesy of Frank Marshall.

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Fingers crossed we can make some history of our own.

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The auctioneers wielding the gavel today are Nick Hall

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and Peter Ashburner.

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Combined they have 25 years of experience,

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so we're in very safe hands.

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All I can say is I wish I was wearing green as well.

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I am slightly.

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I've just been joined by Victor and our expert, Caroline here.

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You're the town crier for Huddersfield. You were in the queue...

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I was, yes.

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..when I was doing my pieces to camera and you were shouting ho yea, ho yea, ho yea.

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-And...

-"Oh, yea."

-Oh, yea.

-You were hard to miss, Victor(!)

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Yes, but you made it onto the show with that little brooch

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-and the two collar clips.

-Yes.

-And that accompanying letter.

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We thought there might be a connection with Charlie Chaplin?

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The letter was supposed to have been...

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The lady who gave it me

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said her mother was married to Charlie Chaplin.

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-The auction house have done...

-They've done a lot of research.

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She was apparently married to Aubrey Chaplin, who was Charlie's cousin.

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So it's not really a proper connection, there might be a tenuous connection

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but we're not really going to play on that.

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-It hasn't affected the value, then?

-No, no. It'll still stand alone.

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Hopefully you will be ringing the bell outside with joy

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because it's going under the hammer now. Let's find out what the bidders think.

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The Art Deco, paste brooch and matching collar clips.

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I can start the bidding on this at £40. Anybody got five? At £40 only.

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Is there five? At £40 I have.

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On commission at £40. Any advance?

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Quickly. I am selling it, anybody else interested?

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At £40 it goes to the maiden bid.

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It went in on a maiden bid and straight out, blink and you miss it.

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-It only needs one.

-And there was no competition.

-No, no.

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Well, that's the advantage of auction research.

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There was a connection to Chaplin,

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but not the one that meant big money.

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Next, it's time to play our cards right.

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Sadly, we do not have Edna. She couldn't make it today.

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But we do have our gorgeous expert, Caroline, with us. Wants £200.

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-I think that's good value for money, don't you?

-I do too.

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It's got two packs of Reynolds cards.

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Reynolds was a great company making cards from 1809 to 1890.

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-Square cut.

-Right, OK.

-Two packs.

-They're quite valuable in their own right.

-They are.

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Recently one has got about £60 for one pack of cards.

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So, I think two packs, plus the box, it's going to get the reserve.

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It is. Hopefully, you are watching this, Edna, and you're going to be enjoying this

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-because we should get the top end of the estimate plus a little bit more.

-I'm sure.

-Let's put it to the test.

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It's going under the hammer right now.

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Nice thing this. I've got a bit of commission interest in this.

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I'm going to come straight in here at £80. 80 I'm bid. Bid at £80.

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Any advance on £80? It's worth more, I'm sure. Come on. Bid it up.

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Thank you. 85 I've got. 90 against you.

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Five. 100.

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110 I'm bid. At £110.

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-Cheap.

-At £110, the bid's in the room. Any more? At 110. 120. 130.

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-Thank goodness for that.

-Yeah.

-Against you, sir. With me now.

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On commission against the room. The internet's out. It's £130.

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Hammer's going. Selling away at 130.

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Well, it's gone. It's gone. Made estimate. You were right.

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-But it just goes to show, on the day, you can be quite lucky.

-Yes.

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You can get things at the lower end, rather than at the top end.

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-I'm sure Edna will be pleased.

-I'm sure she will.

-She wanted to sell it. She paid £10 for that.

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Hell of a return!

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There's a cheque in the post for you, Edna.

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And next, that intriguing jewellery.

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I've just been joined by Maddy and Nicky and Michael, our expert.

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We're just about to sell a couple of lots which we've split

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into two sales. The first lot, we're selling something that's hideous.

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Well, I tell you what, I don't think they're hideous.

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-I think they're quirky.

-That's the point. They are quirky.

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-I've never seen anything like it.

-Nor have I.

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And we've got a nine carat gold bracelet as well.

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-Which is more down to its bullion value.

-Exactly.

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Right. Anyway, let's find out what the bidders think about

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our first lot, these earrings. They're going under the hammer now.

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The cased pair Victorian earrings. Start me where? At £50?

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40. 30 online.

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You bidding against? I've got 30 here. Five. 35. 40. Speed up.

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You'll lose it. £40. 45. The phone's in now. 45. 50. Have I got 60?

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I've got £60. It's all online. 65. 70. It's climbing away.

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At £70. 75. 80.

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£80. 85.

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Off she goes. £90.

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-There is no accounting for taste.

-110 now. Had 110. 120.

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130. 140. The phones are out. It's online. 150. Online at £150.

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Are we done? At 150, the bid's online. Nothing in the room?

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Phones are quiet. It's online. At £150, I sell now.

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£150 for top, hammer's gone down, crack. That's good, isn't it?

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That's £149 for the box,

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£1 for the earrings.

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-My mum's in shock.

-I am in shock!

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Well, nobody expected that result and it just goes to show,

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one person's trash is another's treasure.

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And so to the charming bracelet.

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Nice little lot, this.

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Nine carat gold, flat, curb-link charm bracelet.

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I'm going to start the bidding straight in now at £100.

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100, I'm bid. 110 against. 120 with me now.

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At 120. Come back at me. Still in? 120.

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-30 I'll take.

-Working out the bullion price in the corner.

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160 now. This commission's against you at 160.

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Are you coming back, try another?

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£160. With me now. Commissions have it. Internet's out.

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It's all on the book at 160 and selling.

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£160. Sold.

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-So, that's a good day out for you both, isn't it?

-Definitely. It was worth coming!

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She's already spent it around the corner.

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A total of £310 to put towards the jewellery making

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and you'll get a few beads for that!

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There we are. That's our first visit to the auction room complete.

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So far, so good. We are coming back here later on in the programme.

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Now, there's a story that I want to explore

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while I'm here in the area and it's about one Mancunian's family

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whose ambition it was to make northern films for northern people.

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I'm talking about the early black and white talkies

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and it all started here in Manchester.

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Take a look at this.

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Who put George Formby on our screens well before he was cleaning windows?

0:20:090:20:14

Nice weather we're having, isn't it?

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Which Manchester film company made over 60 feature films

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and was one of the few that continually made a profit?

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And which man resolutely stuck to his northern roots in humour

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and in film-making, despite being panned by the critics?

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-Hello?

-The names on the credits are Mancunian Films and John E Blakeley

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and their story is one of ambition and foresight.

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The cast is bursting with colourful characters

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and the script is full of laughs.

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-Why marry an American?

-I want to see the world.

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That's all right. I'll buy you a map.

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Welcome to the world of Mancunian Films,

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Manchester's very own Hollywood. The first scene takes place in 1909.

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Just a year after the first cinema came to Manchester,

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a market trader called James Blakeley took a huge risk

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by converting his small shop into a 200-seater cinema.

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Blakeley Senior and his two sons, John E and James Junior,

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realised the potential of the silver screen

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and they grabbed their opportunity with both hands.

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The Blakeley family were one of the first film distributors in the North.

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But it was John E who spotted an opportunity to take things further.

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What happened next was a real testament to the ambition,

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foresight and bravery of the Blakeleys.

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From owning a cinema, they decided to rent out films.

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And from renting films, they decided to have a go at making them.

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I mean, how hard could it be?

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Well, actually, for John E's film-making debut, not hard at all.

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His vision was to bring opera to the masses,

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so he filmed actors playing out the story,

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rather than the usual piano accompaniment.

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John E sent a quartet of opera singers to the theatre

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to give the film a musical voice.

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# Il Giovanni... #

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But just as John E started producing silent full-length movies

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in the late 1920s, the talkies hit the screen.

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It was a revolution in cinematography

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and it left the Blakeleys waiting in the wings.

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There were no studios here in the North that could produce a talkie.

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It was almost a wrap for the Blakeleys.

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But in 1933, John E sought advice from two of the biggest film stars

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of the day, Oliver Hardy and fellow northerner Stan Laurel.

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Their meeting at the Midland Hotel

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changed the path of Mancunian Films forever.

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As the story goes, Stan Laurel said to John E,

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"Why aren't you making movies any more?"

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John E replied, "Well, there are no studios here in the North

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"that can accommodate a sound production."

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So, Laurel said, "Well, why don't you rent a studio down in London?"

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Buoyed by Laurel's advice, John E rented a studio in London

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and just three weeks later, Mancunian Films released

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"Boots! Boots!".

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The nation was introduced to a local lad who became

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one of the biggest stars of the era.

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This was the very first time he was seen singing.

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# Baby

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# Baby, you're my sweetheart... #

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To tell me more about the halcyon days of Mancunian Films,

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historian CP Lee. How did John E go about making his films?

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John E loved musical hall and he considered himself

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quite a connoisseur at sporting up-and-coming stars

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and he would pick acts who he thought would transfer onto film.

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That was John E's cleverness. If people would go and see them

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in the halls, well, he'd put them on the screen.

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And it's why he uses proscenium shot a lot

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where the camera appears to be stationary. It's not moving.

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In effect, he's showing us theatre. And in every film, at some point,

0:24:040:24:08

somebody almost says, "Let's have a concert party."

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It's John E's excuse to put in all his favourite musical acts.

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The plots were very basic.

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Literally, I know Penny Pool which was written on the back

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of a cigarette packet.

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The dialogue would be produced by the artist very often

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-in a state of improvisation.

-Do you know who I am?

-Let me think.

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I haven't the faintest idea.

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And what is more, I am not the slightest bit interested.

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So, how successful were they?

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In the North of England, they were very, very successful.

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We've got box office figures from during the Second World War.

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The Mancunians often out ran Hollywood at the box office.

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In 1947, having produced 14 films in London, John E finally

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realised his dream and bought an old church in Manchester

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that he converted into a studio.

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-What did the critics think of this at the time?

-They were appalled.

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They used to call the studio the Corn Exchange

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cos the jokes were so bad.

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But the locals called it Jollywood

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because there was such a great atmosphere.

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What's important is the bloodline of northern comedy.

0:25:230:25:27

Les Dawson freely acknowledged his debt to Norman Evans

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when he played his over-the-garden-wall character

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where they mouth everything which is what the mill girls did

0:25:330:25:35

cos they lip read.

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Peter Kay, for instance, has got lovely little glimpses of that

0:25:370:25:42

northern bloodline of northern comedy in his performance.

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So, that concept of northern comedy has carried through very successfully

0:25:460:25:51

by the genetics of the films.

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The Mancunian Films archive was largely destroyed by a fire in 1980.

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But most of the titles have been recovered

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and are now being kept safe by the North West Film Archive.

0:26:050:26:09

Well, we've heard that the films were slated by the critics,

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but loved by the masses.

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So, we're going to play a few clips from some Mancunian Films

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and see what the people think of it today.

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That was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. I hope you enjoyed that.

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We have a special guest with us right now, John E's grandson, Mike.

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-Pleasure to meet you.

-Pleased to meet you.

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-What was it like watching Grandad's work then?

-I don't know.

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Just brings back memories, I suppose, from...

0:27:150:27:19

-Proud, I suppose, for my grandfather.

-Still refreshing watching it.

0:27:190:27:22

-You've see it many times.

-Well, yeah. It must have been chaos in those days filming it

0:27:220:27:26

cos they never knew what they were going to do.

0:27:260:27:29

You get these comedians who worked on the musical hall

0:27:290:27:33

and there must have been so much humour actually working on the programmes themselves.

0:27:330:27:37

What about the archives? Are there films missing?

0:27:370:27:39

There's one film that's always been missing which is

0:27:390:27:42

-Somewhere In Politics.

-OK.

0:27:420:27:44

-So, we all should keep a lookout for that one.

-Absolutely.

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Collectors like to keep these things.

0:27:480:27:51

From our point of view, we're saying, "You can still keep it,

0:27:510:27:54

"all we want to do is copy it," so that it's there for the future,

0:27:540:27:57

-for everybody to see.

-Exactly.

0:27:570:27:59

-Let the nation look at it.

-Yeah, absolutely.

0:27:590:28:01

-It's been a pleasure to meet you.

-Thank you very much indeed.

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Lost treasure isn't always in the form of gold and silver,

0:28:050:28:08

so have a hunt in your attic for the missing film,

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and you'll contribute to the legacy of British cinema.

0:28:110:28:14

I think we found a hidden treasure here today

0:28:140:28:17

and discovered a hero in John E Blakeley

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and his contribution towards the British film industry.

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His movies may not have been the most sophisticated,

0:28:220:28:25

but everybody loved them.

0:28:250:28:27

Because really, who couldn't resist a bit of slapstick?

0:28:270:28:30

Back at our valuation day in the very heart of Manchester,

0:28:390:28:42

our cameras are still rolling and next up,

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it's Michael, Jan and a plethora of pots.

0:28:440:28:48

Jan, thank you for coming in today.

0:28:480:28:50

Are there any vases left in your house, or do you have a vase fetish?

0:28:500:28:55

Erm...there are a few more,

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but I'm trying to get rid of a lot cos I'm fed up of dusting everything.

0:28:560:29:00

So are you a vase collector, or did these come through the family?

0:29:000:29:03

No, they were left to me by my Auntie Maud.

0:29:030:29:06

Well, these are fascinating.

0:29:060:29:08

Let's look at the pot first, cos to me

0:29:080:29:10

that's the least interesting of the group.

0:29:100:29:13

-OK.

-It's Italian - it's maiolica.

0:29:130:29:16

So that's the thing that majolica was based on.

0:29:160:29:19

It's a tin-glazed earthenware, so you got a clay body

0:29:190:29:22

and this white glaze put over it to make it look like porcelain.

0:29:220:29:27

Then you've go these lovely colours that tend to run

0:29:270:29:30

and flow a little bit, like ink into blotting paper.

0:29:300:29:34

So you get this effect.

0:29:340:29:35

I've shown it to my colleague off-screen, I thought there was

0:29:350:29:38

a chance it was 18th century.

0:29:380:29:41

She's seen more of these than I have

0:29:410:29:43

and she thinks it's more early-19th century in date.

0:29:430:29:47

Let's say it's early-19th century.

0:29:470:29:49

Did you, before coming to Flog It hit it hard with a hammer?

0:29:500:29:53

-No!

-So you're not responsible...?

-It's always been like that!

0:29:530:29:58

That's a problem with it.

0:29:580:29:59

But it's not dramatically valuable - £40-£60.

0:29:590:30:04

-Yes, that's fine.

-£40 reserve, see where it goes.

0:30:040:30:08

-If two people think it's earlier, it might make over 100.

-OK.

0:30:080:30:12

Now onto these.

0:30:120:30:13

These are pretty. let's pick one of them up.

0:30:130:30:16

We've got a matching pair and these are called cloisonne.

0:30:160:30:18

Japanese, and they're lovely.

0:30:180:30:22

There's only two things I've got against them -

0:30:220:30:26

they're not signed and the very, very,

0:30:260:30:29

very best ones always were signed.

0:30:290:30:32

And secondly, the hammer that you didn't hit this with...

0:30:320:30:35

I know what you're going to say.

0:30:350:30:37

You didn't hit these either?

0:30:370:30:39

-No.

-Erm, we've got a percussion crack there, where it's just pinged.

0:30:390:30:43

And if we look at this one, we've got a little crack there as well.

0:30:440:30:50

But they're pretty and they're small and I love them.

0:30:500:30:53

And a huge amount of work went into making them.

0:30:530:30:57

I might be being optimistic,

0:30:570:30:58

but let's say they might be worth £100-£200.

0:30:580:31:01

OK.

0:31:010:31:02

-And put a fixed reserve of £100 on them.

-Yes.

0:31:020:31:06

-Happy to sell them?

-Yes.

0:31:060:31:09

Don't want any more dusting?

0:31:090:31:10

No.

0:31:100:31:12

If they do well, what are you going to do with the money?

0:31:120:31:15

-Buy shoes.

-Buy shoes?!

0:31:150:31:18

Yes!

0:31:180:31:19

Well, let's get you a good pair, at least, possibly two.

0:31:190:31:22

Could be.

0:31:220:31:24

Thank you very much for bringing them in.

0:31:240:31:26

-OK. Thank you.

-Pleasure.

0:31:260:31:27

Back in the power hall, Caroline's surrounded by precision

0:31:310:31:34

engineering - big and small.

0:31:340:31:35

Can you tell me about it, Steve?

0:31:370:31:39

It belonged to my father.

0:31:390:31:41

I can vividly remember him wearing it - he had a waistcoat

0:31:410:31:45

and it was on a chain.

0:31:450:31:48

Not all the time, just on special occasions,

0:31:480:31:50

cos it was considered a special piece, really.

0:31:500:31:54

And it is a gentleman's pocket watch

0:31:540:31:56

so he was quite right to proudly wear it for Sunday best.

0:31:560:32:00

And very dapper, I'm sure he looked in it.

0:32:000:32:03

It is a lovely piece.

0:32:030:32:05

It's 18-carat gold, and it's an American movement - Waltham.

0:32:050:32:10

Have you ever opened this up before and had a look inside?

0:32:100:32:13

-It's the first time...

-Is it, really?

0:32:130:32:17

-Really looks lovely inside.

-It does.

0:32:170:32:19

It's absolutely a precision work of engineering.

0:32:190:32:23

And the outer case is marked

0:32:230:32:27

18-carat and the date mark is 1908,

0:32:270:32:31

which ties in with your father's dates.

0:32:310:32:34

White enamel dial, altogether a very saleable item.

0:32:350:32:40

At the moment, gold is at a very high level, very high price,

0:32:400:32:44

so I think it's a very good time to sell it.

0:32:440:32:48

I think we're going to put an estimate of £400-£600 on it.

0:32:480:32:53

-Happy? Smiling?

-Yes. Yeah.

0:32:530:32:55

And if we put a fixed reserve of 400?

0:32:550:32:57

I don't think we'll need it, I think it'll exceed that.

0:32:570:33:00

But...we'll do that. Happy?

0:33:000:33:03

-Be happy with that, yeah.

-Brilliant.

0:33:030:33:05

Well, let's go and flog it.

0:33:050:33:07

Thank you.

0:33:070:33:08

Now, for the last item of the day,

0:33:100:33:12

Michael is indulging his personal passion.

0:33:120:33:14

Janet, thank you so much.

0:33:160:33:18

I know my colleagues were almost sending you away,

0:33:180:33:20

when I swooped on your little spoon.

0:33:200:33:24

Before I tell you anything about it, what do you know?

0:33:240:33:27

The only thing I know about it is, it's just always been in the family.

0:33:270:33:32

And when my mother died, 41 years ago, I just brought it home.

0:33:320:33:36

Has it gone in the cutlery drawer?

0:33:360:33:38

Have you stirred your tea and coffee with it?

0:33:380:33:40

No, it's just been in another pot with little spoons in a cabinet

0:33:400:33:44

-and that's it.

-That's it.

0:33:440:33:47

It's very interesting.

0:33:470:33:48

It's only a teaspoon, but it is very, very interesting.

0:33:480:33:52

It's a piece of Arts and Crafts - British silver.

0:33:520:33:56

You can see that they tried to show the construction,

0:33:570:34:00

so you've got all the hammer marks still showing.

0:34:000:34:03

And these beautiful pierced out - all by hand, terminal,

0:34:050:34:09

making it look hand-wrought.

0:34:090:34:12

If we turn it over...

0:34:120:34:14

Very small hallmarks. We'll have a look.

0:34:140:34:17

It was made in London in 1924.

0:34:170:34:21

Which, in itself, means nothing.

0:34:220:34:25

But the maker's mark is SD.

0:34:250:34:27

I've noticed that, but I've looked on the internet and I couldn't find SD.

0:34:270:34:31

SD is probably the most important

0:34:310:34:35

Arts and Crafts female goldsmith.

0:34:350:34:40

-Oh, female.

-It's Sybil Dunlop.

0:34:400:34:42

-Oh...

-And the thing about Sybil Dunlop,

0:34:420:34:45

there's very much more jewellery by her than there is silver.

0:34:450:34:50

-Oh.

-Her silver is rare.

0:34:500:34:51

So it's only a teaspoon from 1924 - if it was a bog-standard one,

0:34:530:34:57

it would be worth it's weight in silver of £5.

0:34:570:35:00

But it's changed it from £5 to £50.

0:35:010:35:04

-Has it really?!

-And we would put it into auction at £50-£100.

0:35:040:35:08

-Gosh.

-And we'd put a fixed reserve of say, £40, on it.

0:35:080:35:13

And it's probably...only the tenth piece of silver I've ever

0:35:130:35:18

-seen by her.

-Oh, gosh.

0:35:180:35:20

It's made my day, made my year, Janet!

0:35:200:35:22

-Made my year.

-I'm glad I brought it!

0:35:220:35:24

I'm delighted. Thank you so much.

0:35:240:35:26

Thank you.

0:35:260:35:27

It just shows, you cannot judge an item's value by its size

0:35:270:35:31

and shape alone.

0:35:310:35:33

That's it, our experts have now found their final items,

0:35:330:35:36

so it's time to say goodbye to our valuation day venue -

0:35:360:35:40

Manchester's Museum of Science And Industry.

0:35:400:35:43

We've had a marvellous time here and learnt so much,

0:35:430:35:45

but right now, it's full steam ahead to Marshall's Auction Rooms

0:35:450:35:48

in Knutsford, and here's what's coming with us.

0:35:480:35:50

TOOT TOOT!

0:35:500:35:52

Michael liked these vases for their beauty and their history,

0:35:520:35:55

but the damage as lead to a low valuation.

0:35:550:35:58

Could he have got it wrong? Keep watching for a jaw-dropping auction.

0:35:580:36:02

Will it be a wind up for Steve and his gentleman's pocket watch?

0:36:030:36:07

A classic Arts and Crafts design, but from a unique maker.

0:36:090:36:13

Will the bidders be as excited as Michael was about this

0:36:130:36:16

Sybil Dunlop spoon?

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So it's back to Knutsford for the last time,

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and can you guess which item steals the show?

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Steven, good luck.

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The time is now up - we're selling an 18-carat gold Edwardian

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pocket watch belonging to Steven, and it is quality, isn't it?

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-Oh, yeah.

-18-carat, Dennison case - it's a lovely piece.

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Let's hope we get the top end of the estimate.

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Let's put it under the hammer now. We need top money for this.

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Edward VII, 18-carat gold Waltham pocket watch.

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And I can start the bidding on this one at £400.

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420. 440.

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460. 480. 500.

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-520.

-It's going...

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560. 580.

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600. 620. 640.

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Commission bid of 640.

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Any advance? 660.

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Your hand up...

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Someone else is joining the party here in the room.

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They want your watch.

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700 - fresh bidder.

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720...yes?

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720.

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720 in the centre.

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You're out left at 720.

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Seated in the centre at 720...

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-GAVEL BANGS

-Sold in the room.

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720.

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Well done. Congratulations.

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That was worth doing, wasn't it?

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Stylish, useful and solid gold - no wonder it smashed the estimate.

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Next under the hammer, the tiny teaspoon.

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You loved that. You instantly recognised the initials.

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-Sybil Dunlop.

-Yes.

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Sybil Dunlop is very important,

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and that is translated in a little teaspoon.

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So somebody's buying something quite precious.

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Let's find out what the bidders think right now.

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The George V hallmarked silver spoon,

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with a pierced decorated handle and a planished bowl,

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by Sybil Dunlop.

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Where we going to be for this one then?

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£40 and start me... 40?

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Where do you want to start?

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25 I have. At £25.

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Any advance on 25?

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Take 30 now?

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At 30. And 5.

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Anybody got 40?

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At £35. Any advance?

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Anybody online?

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Someone's woken up.

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Is there another 5?

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You're out in the room, and I'm selling now at 40.

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Gosh, it's gone.

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The thing is, it's very...academic.

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Mm.

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We didn't have two people that wanted it, we had one person online.

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But we protected it with a reserve, and that's what it's for.

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It was so tiny. Very tiny.

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Thank you for coming in.

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We've all learned something - you knew it all along,

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but hopefully you have as well.

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So have a rummage in your cutlery drawer,

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maybe you'll have a spoon that says a two-letter mark

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that says history and money!

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And now, those striking, but damaged vases.

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-Jan, fingers crossed - good luck.

-Thank you.

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-You're looking very smart today.

-Thank you very much.

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You're off shopping after this, aren't you?

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-Could be. Depends how much we make.

-Are you, really?

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-Yes.

-Dressed to kill - dressed to go shopping!

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What's top of the list, what you looking for today?

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-Shoes!

-I knew it! I knew it!

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I don't know if we can pay for a good pair of shoes with it.

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Not in Knutsford!

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Heels to go on maybe!

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We're looking at £100-£200 with the two cloisonne vases.

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Let's find out what the bidders think. Good luck.

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Pair of Japanese cloisonne vases.

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Good lot this one, we're going to open the bidding.

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£100 and start me quickly now.

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80?

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80 bid. 85. 85. 90.

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95, I'm bid. At 95 in the room.

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100 online. Any advance?

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And 10 on the phone.

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120 online.

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130 on the phone.

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At 130 bid. And 40.

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140. 50 now?

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150 telephone bid.

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60. 170 on the phone.

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At 170. 80.

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This is good, getting the top end.

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Online bidder at 200.

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10. At 220.

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230 now? 240.

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250 now? 250.

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60. 270 I you like?

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270 telephone.

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At 270 on the phone.

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280. At 280. 90 now?

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Shakes his head on the phone.

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It's 280 and it's on the internet.

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It's an internet bidder and I'm selling at 280.

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Hammer's gone down - £280.

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I'm coming again now!

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You are!

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A great result for the cloisonne vases.

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Next, Jan's majolica. Will it go the same way?

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Nick Hall takes to the rostrum for the last time.

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The 19th-century Italian maiolica vase.

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Nice thing this, good early look about it.

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Start me where?

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Not a lot of money at £40. 30? 20?

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I like that.

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It's got a wonderful look.

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Let's get the ball rolling now.

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At 30. 5. 40.

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45. At 45 I've got.

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And 50 I've got. And 5 I've got.

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And 60. 65 - it's all climbing online.

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At £70 we're back on the phone.

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Thank goodness for the internet, it eluded the people of Knutsford.

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I've got 100.

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I've got 100 and 120.

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130. At 140.

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You coming back in now?

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This is good, isn't it?

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-You've got your shoes already.

-Yes, I have.

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210 now. The bid's on the phone at 210.

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220. Against you in Italy.

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"Against you in Italy."

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I think two people are convinced it's early.

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360 now. 360 I'm bid.

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At 380 here.

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400. 420.

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At 420 now.

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440. 460 here.

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Online at 480.

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480 I'm bid.

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500 now. At £500.

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Any advance on 500?

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-520.

-You might be buying a shoe shop, you realise this, don't you?!

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560. 580 here. 600.

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At 600 now. 620.

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It was a come and buy me, Michael.

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It was a run and buy me, wasn't it?

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At £700. 720. 740.

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740. 760.

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780.

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-I'll buy you two pair of shoes now.

-Oh, thank you.

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840. 880. 880 now.

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At 900.

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£900 here.

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That's a compete outfit now - handbag and shoes.

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They're bidding in Italy, they're bidding on the phone.

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Fresh phone bidder - he's in at 980!

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At 980.

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Wouldn't this be funny?

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1,000 I'm bid.

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Take a 50 with you. Thank you - 1,050.

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At 1050.

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1,100. 1,100 here now.

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-1,150.

-I did have a feeling, on the day, it was early.

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-No, you didn't.

-I did!

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I said to you!

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I said, "I think this is early."

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At 1,200 now. I've got 1,200 with Niall.

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At £1,200.

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This is a great auction.

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This is what auctions are all about.

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Last and final time at £1,200...

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£1,200! Jan!

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Yeah, well done!

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Oh, Jan's off shopping!

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Congratulations to you lot, by the way!

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That is what a good auction is all about, isn't it?

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-Course it is.

-Yeah! Well done, Jan!

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We'd love to take the cameras and follow you shopping,

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that's for sure. We just don't have time!

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We've all had a brilliant time in Knutsford.

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I hope you've enjoyed the show.

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See you next time for plenty more surprises from Flog It!

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