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Welcome to Dunham Massey,

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the ancestral home of the Earls of Stanford and Warrington.

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I think it's pretty safe to say the family that lived here

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were complete hoarders.

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During their time in residence,

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they amassed a staggering 25,000 different objects,

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objects which tell a story of love and political intrigue.

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And later on in the show,

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I'll be sharing some of my favourites with you.

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But right now, it's those all-important valuations.

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Welcome to "Flog It!"

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One of Merseyside's most impressive buildings is today's

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valuation venue, Wallasey Town Hall.

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In 1940, during the Second World War,

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it took a direct hit by German bombers.

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George VI and Queen Elizabeth came to see the effects

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of the early raids.

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But worse was to follow.

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Liverpool and Merseyside soon became the most heavily bombed area

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in the country outside of London.

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Having the largest west coast port, Merseyside was targeted because the

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docks brought in food and materials vital to Britain's survival.

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But despite the death toll and destruction,

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the port stayed open, and visiting the area, Churchill said,

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"I see damage done by enemy attacks,

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"but I also see the spirit of unconquered people."

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Merseyside is an area of the powerful sense of pride

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in its history, and quite rightly so.

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And that strong connection with the past, combined with

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the unflagging determination

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of this massive crowd here,

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is sure to provide us with a lively valuation day.

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-Isn't that right?

-CROWD:

-Yeah!

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And who better to match that resolve and do us proud

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with their expert knowledge than the spirited Anita Manning...

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SHE LAUGHS LOUDLY

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OK. Actually, you're mine forever.

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And working alongside Anita is tiptop chap, Nick Davies.

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-Hi, Nick, how are you doing?

-I'm fine. How are you getting on?

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It's great. The people in the queue are absolutely fabulous.

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And I found a couple of marvellous items that you had bagged before me.

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Ah, got to be quick. Got to be quick.

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Don't worry, Anita.

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There's plenty to go around on this breezy day.

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So as the flags flutter outside,

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it's time for a flurry of steps inside.

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Whilst everybody finds a spot in the main hall,

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and our off-screen experts start unwrapping all manner of goods,

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how about we have a quick reveal of what's coming up in today's show?

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-In 1912...

-Anita imagines the thrill of being an Edwardian woman.

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Women threw away their corsets,

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they would pin these hats onto their extravagant hairdos,

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and it was that extra bit of flash.

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Whereas Nick is butching it up as a Victorian man.

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Cos if your hands got a bit hot and sweaty,

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you could have a really good grip on the sword.

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But who will win the battle of the sexes over at the auction?

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Ooh! Ooh!

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We did stick it to them.

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-Everyone having a good time?

-ALL:

-Yeah!

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That's what it's all about. This is where it's going to happen,

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right here, right now. It's lights, camera, action.

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It could be you going home with a lot of money. Fingers crossed.

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Or you, or you. And you're all on TV right now.

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I'm being filmed, there's a camera up there. Give it away, look!

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There we are.

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Well, as you can see, everybody is so excited.

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They're all safely seated inside now in the warm,

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so let's get on with the valuations

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and hand the proceedings over to expert, Nick Davies.

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Well, Phil, we were having a bit of a chat before we sat down here,

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-haven't we?

-Yes.

-You were telling me something about this building

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-in your family, and a connection?

-Tell me about it.

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My family were Roland Owen and Son, haulage contractors.

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-They actually hauled a lot of the stone on this building.

-OK.

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-And my uncle Bob had a team of horses and a wagon...

-Right.

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..and he was sitting on a great big crate, and when he got off it,

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a guy said to him, "Do you know what you've been sitting on?

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"You'll be able to tell your family you've been sitting on

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the top of Wallasey Town Hall.

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Because the box he had had the urn in it

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-that goes right on the very top.

-Right somewhere above our heads.

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-Absolutely.

-So the urn was in the box.

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Fantastic, what a lovely little story.

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-And is that any relation to this?

-His brother was quite a...

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-quite a showman, really.

-Right.

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He had a lot of things that made sound, made pictures,

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made any sort of noise whatsoever. And this was Uncle Steve's.

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He loved his equipment, and he loved tinkering with things.

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So he's probably taken this apart at some point,

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and oiled it and put it back together again.

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It looks in great condition, and we know what it is.

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It's a cylinder phonograph by Edison.

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Obviously Edison was very famous for his telephone work

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and his telegraphy, and this has come from that.

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Now, it's the standard issue. They did various versions,

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another one was the Edison Gem which was a little bit smaller.

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And this is probably circa... about turn-of-the-century, 1898,

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somewhere around about that sort of period.

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Have you used it at all?

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Well, we kept it because we've got a great big box full of recordings,

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-and we thought we'd have a party and play it.

-Yep.

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-But the opportunity's never come up.

-You haven't had a phonograph party?

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-No, we haven't.

-Bring your phonograph, bring your wax seal.

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Let's take this one off and have a quick look, shall we?

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That's where all the music is, he says...

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Recorded onto these wax cylinders.

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-Have you got any more of these?

-I think 57.

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57? SHE LAUGHS

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-So you've got the top 40 and a few bonus ones as well?

-Yes.

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-And you've got the cover as well, I know.

-Oh, yes.

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-Yes, we've got the cover.

-And obviously the horn.

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So it's all there. Let's talk about value.

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I'd have thought it should fetch,

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with all those cylinders, somewhere around about £200 to £300,

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-reasonably conservatively, I would say.

-Lovely.

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-Is that suitable for you?

-That would be superb!

-Fantastic.

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The million-dollar question, does it work?

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That'll probably be enough. If I'm right, I think we just move that?

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Yes.

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MUSIC PLAYS It's coming.

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-You've got a hornpipe.

-A very nice hornpipe.

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It's always great to see these phonographs, which are

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the earliest commercial medium for recording and reproducing sound.

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Their production came to an end in the 1920s

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when the competing gramophone triumphed in the marketplace.

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And the rest, as they say, is history.

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Peter, welcome to "Flog It!", and thank you very, very much

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for bringing this little item along. I'm very excited.

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This is the first time that I've been in the Wirral peninsula.

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And this is the first time "Flog it!" has been in the Wirral peninsula

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-as well.

-Now, do you come from this area?

-Yes.

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-What sort of work did you do here?

-I don't work. I'm a pensioner.

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-You're a pensioner now?

-I'm 80 in 12 weeks' time.

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Ah, well congratulations.

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I have fallen in love with this little item here.

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-The little British Bulldog.

-Yep.

-Can you tell me, where did you get it?

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Handed down from my mother-in-law.

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Has it been with you for a long time?

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-It's been with me for over 50 years.

-For over 50 years?

-Yes.

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Let me tell you a little bit about it,

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because it's a very interesting little item.

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It was made by Royal Doulton, designed by Charles Noke,

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a very prestigious designer.

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And he was famous for designing and making character jugs,

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-depicting various different characters of the day.

-Yes.

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This little bulldog was made in 1941.

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Now, 1941, the middle war years, it would have been produced

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to cheer people up,

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as a piece of perhaps propaganda.

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And here we have the good old British Bulldog,

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and he's draped by this Union Jack.

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Let's take a wee look at the underneath of it.

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We see the mark here for Royal Doulton.

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And we see this number here, which is the registration mark,

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which tells us when it was registered.

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And this was in 1941.

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But if we look at the item itself, and think about the time that it

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was made, these middle war years,

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it was a time where people needed to...

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-They needed to... I don't know, feel good about things.

-Yes.

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I think that it's an evocative thing.

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-And I know that you've enjoyed it.

-Oh, I have enjoyed it.

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One wee thing that maybe I should point out,

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and I don't know if you've noticed, our Union Jack here, we have a

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little discolouration in the blue, so it's faded a wee bit on there.

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So the collector will take that into consideration.

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Price-wise, what do you think?

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-I have no idea.

-Take a guess, Peter.

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-£50?

-£50?

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Well, a wee bitty more than that.

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But I would say that we could estimate it

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perhaps £80 to £120.

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-Now, would you be happy to put it forward?

-I'm more than happy.

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I think that might even be a wee bit of a conservative estimate.

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-Right, OK.

-But let's put it in, and let's let the market decide.

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-Thank you very, very much for bringing it along.

-My pleasure.

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Used to portray the courage and spirit of Britain during

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the Second World War,

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it was of course Winston Churchill who became known as the British

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Bulldog, because of his famously stoic and tenacious manner.

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Qualities also shown by the people of Merseyside.

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Earlier on in the programme, we mentioned

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some of the effects of the Liverpool Blitz during World War II.

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Well, I've got a couple of photographs that I'd like to show you.

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One is of the most magnificent Willis organ, installed

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here in this concert hall, in the 1920s.

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It would have been right down there where the stage is now.

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It was absolutely huge.

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Sadly, 20 years later, during the war, in 1940,

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this building took a direct hit, and the state of the organ there,

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well, it's reduced to matchsticks.

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The hall was rebuilt but it took a long time.

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In fact, right up until 1951, and by then times had changed.

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Things had moved on. There was no need for a big organ down the end of the room.

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It was all about a big stage with a live band on it

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and wonderful dances.

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Yes, this hall has been the scene of many a formal do.

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You can almost hear the swish of the ball gowns.

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Not normally one to stand on ceremony himself,

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Nick Davies is, however, lording it over us on the balcony.

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Hello, Jean, you've brought a rather nice ink stand for us here.

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Can you tell me a little bit about it?

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I can't tell you much about it except that it's been in my loft for quite

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-a long time.

-Right. It's beautiful.

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It just reeks elegance of its day, doesn't it?

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It's by a gentleman called William Atkins.

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He was a silversmith in Birmingham at that period

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and made this type of desk furniture. And it's been presented to someone.

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It's got a presentation engraving to the front.

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-So you've no idea who Mrs Ward is?

-No.

-No?

-None.

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Well, neither do I, but it's come from Llandudno, apparently,

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because it was gifted to her by the church over there.

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But it's hallmarked in Birmingham, in 1907.

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-So it actually predates this building by about, eh, seven years.

-Oh, right.

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And as it says on the presentation, it was presented in 1910.

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It's got a lovely pen rest but no pen. Often they go missing.

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In the days of tablets and laptops and computers,

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-this seems a little bit obsolete, doesn't it, really?

-Probably.

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And it's a shame, because it's so elegant. It's beautifully made

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with all the intricate work, the reeded borders,

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the twin ink wells that all match. It's raised on four bun feet.

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-Yes.

-It's hardly been used.

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-It seems like it's been in your loft for donkey's years.

-Yes, probably has.

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What kind of a house would this have been in, in that era?

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Well, I think if you can imagine a typical Edwardian

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gentleman at his partner's desk, with his stationary box on top

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and his big ink blotter by his side, and his desk set right in front of him.

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So let's talk about the money side of thing, the valuation.

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I'd see this at about £100-150.

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We'll put a reserve on it at around about 90,

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-just to make sure that everything's covered.

-OK.

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And I'm sure we'll be fine with that. So are you happy with that?

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-I'm happy with that.

-Confident?

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-Yes, yes.

-Going to go to the auction and see it fly?

-Yes.

-Yes.

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-Excellent. I'll look forward to seeing you there.

-OK.

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There you are, our first three items picked out by our experts,

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and how exciting is that? The day really is flying past.

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Let's get over to the auction room, put those valuations to the test.

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And here's a quick recap of what we're taking with us.

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There's Phil's phonograph that she inherited from her uncle Steve.

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With all those extra cylinders, it should attract interest.

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And Peter rose early to be one of the first in the queue.

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Let's hope his enthusiasm pays off with a good

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result in the sale room.

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And finally, Nick was impressed by this silver ink stand.

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Rescued from the loft,

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I'm sure its auction will give Jean something to write home about.

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We're heading across the Mersey into the busy

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city of Liverpool for today's auction.

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And regular viewers will no doubt recognise "Flog It!"

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favourite Adam Partridge on the rostrum.

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Remember, if you are buying or selling in an auction room

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there's also commission to pay.

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It does vary from sale room to sell room.

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Here, at Adam Partridge's in Liverpool, it's

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20% inclusive of VAT.

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Our first item up for grabs is Jean's Edwardian silver ink stand.

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It's got everything going for it. I love the rectangular form.

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I think it's good. This silver won't go to mount. I think it's quality.

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-And it's been liberated from the...

-Loft.

-What's it doing up there?!

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Well, I don't know.

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I just went up to have a look, when I saw you were coming to Wallasey.

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-Is all the family silver up in the loft?

-Well, it might be.

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It might be. This will look great on a writing table.

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The only thing going against it, it's got a presentation

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-engraving on it. That's the only thing.

-Can that be polished out?

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I think it could be, yeah. It's just a nice, pretty example.

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It's just that engraving, so we'll see whether that makes a difference.

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OK. Let's find out what it's worth, shall we?

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It's going under the hammer now.

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210 is an Edwardian silver ink stand. We've got 80 already.

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-We've got one hand going up.

-90.

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Five. 110. 110, over my right.

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At 110, worth a bit more, is it? At 110 on my right-hand side. £110.

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Any further at 110? We'll sell now at £110.

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-It's gone, Jean. £110.

-Yes, that was good.

-Good result.

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-Fantastic.

-Well done, Nick.

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And right now we're flying the Union Jack for Britain with this wonderful little bulldog,

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and it belongs to Peter, and Anita is our expert.

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We've seen these on the show before.

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I think since that James Bond movie came out, they're all coming

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out of the woodwork. Why are you selling this?

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-It's just sitting there...

-Doing nothing.

-..and I don't even look at it.

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Ah, you've fallen out of love with the little bulldog. Confident, Anita?

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-Top end?

-The blue colour in the Union Jack is slightly faded.

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But hopefully... He's all there.

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Apart from that, he's in good condition.

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-Oh, those collectors are a fussy bunch.

-No cracks or...

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No, he's in very good nick, actually. I think we'll get this away.

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-Oh, here we are.

-Oh, look at him, isn't that cute?

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-Straight in at £80 online.

-There you go.

-80 bid. At £80. Internet at 80.

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That's good. My commission bids were 40. At £80 only.

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At £80, is online at 80.

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At 80. Are you all done at 80? We'll sell at 80, then.

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Anyone else on this at £80? All finished at £80.

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Short and sweet at £80.

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Well, there you go. It's gone for £80.

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The collectors loved it. You're happy, Peter, aren't you?

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I'm happy.

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As they say, the cheque will be in the post in about three weeks' time, less their commission.

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-OK?

-Thank you very much.

-No, thank you.

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I'm glad we're sending Peter home happy.

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Going under the hammer right now,

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we have an item which pioneered the home sound system.

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Yes, it's the Edison phonograph

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and it belongs to Phil, who's right next to me in lovely bright red.

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Look at that. Is that Liverpool or what?

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Well, yes, you couldn't come to Liverpool without wearing red.

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-Oh! Or blue.

-Or blue.

-Or blue, or blue!

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We had a laugh at the valuation day, didn't we?

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-It's all about good working condition.

-It's super.

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Lots of spare cylinders. And the horn is there.

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Here we go, we're putting it under the hammer right now.

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270 is the Edison standard model phonograph there. £200 start.

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120, 130. Bid already. At 130.

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Any advance on 134 for the phonograph? 140.

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150. 160. 170. Bid 180.

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-Come on.

-180 is this side. At 180.

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At 180, 190 online. 200, the room.

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-Oh! Oh!

-210 online.

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-Yeah.

-230.

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-250 online.

-And there's interest.

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-260.

-Oh, it's a great party machine!

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280, the phonograph now. 290.

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300. In the room still.

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Wow! £300!

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-Got it!

-Yes!

-£300.

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I have to say, Phil said, just before Adam started

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auctioneering this off, "I can't wait to see the back of these damn things."

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-You did, didn't you? Look, they've gone.

-Brilliant.

-They've gone to a good home.

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-And they are a great collectable.

-They are.

-Pleased?

-Yeah. Wonderful.

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-Good.

-It's a great party machine.

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Well, let's hope somebody really enjoys playing that phonograph

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and showing it off to the family and friends.

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Well, there you are. That's our first set of results done

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and dusted here in the sale room.

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We are coming back later on in the programme.

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Now, the grand stately home of Dunham Massey is just a few

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miles east from here, and it houses one of the largest

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collections in the care of the National Trust.

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And while we're in the area filming,

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I had the opportunity to go off and explore.

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As we know with our own homes, if you have a cupboard underneath

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the stairs, or a small spare bedroom, you just stuff things in it.

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You let it pile up rather than sort it out

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and sell it or throw it away. It just gets sky-high.

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But if your home is Dunham Massey, then space really isn't an issue.

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In fact, it turned the family that lived here into unwitting hoarders.

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Thank goodness it did, because each of those objects tells

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a fascinating story of 300 years of family history and drama.

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Dunham Massey was actually home to two great families.

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The Booths, otherwise known as the Earls of Warrington.

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And then the Greys, the Earls of Stamford.

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Marriage brought them together, and the money they made from

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coal and farming was carefully managed.

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They bought quality items made to last and looked after what they owned,

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never throwing anything away.

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Now, the first treasure I want to show you is also Dunham's largest,

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the exquisite state bed,

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and here it is, filling this magnificent Queen Anne room.

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It was inherited by the Second Earl in 1680,

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and then passed down through the family, treated as a precious family

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heirloom, right up until the Ninth Earl sent it off for restoration.

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But sadly and suddenly, the Ninth Earl passed away

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and the bed was sent back to the house. Work hadn't even begun.

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The bed was still left in its packing cases

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and that's where it remained for the next 100 years,

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until the National Trust took over the house,

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looked inside these packing cases and discovered this bed.

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Can you imagine that when they opened it up?

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They took the brave decision back then to conserve and restore

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the bed, a project which took eight years, with a price tag of £200,000.

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I like the playful use of design here with the four supporting posts

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because they're modelled on palm trees,

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which would have been all the rage, something exotic.

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Look at the foliage at the top.

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That's created with ostrich and egret feathers,

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sort of hanging down rather dandily.

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But if you look closely at the feet where it terminates to the floor... Gilt.

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But that's copying the roots of a palm tree.

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It's quite whimsical, isn't it?

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But I have to stress the word conservation

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and not restoration here, because not a great deal has been done.

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It's kept as honest as possible, and for me, my favourite

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thing of the whole bed has to be...

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You're not going to believe it. The wear marks.

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I love that bruised fabric.

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That's centuries of wear, where the hands have grabbed it.

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They've drawn those curtains closed, and they've drawn them back open.

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That is a massive visual link to our past.

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An incredible bit of our heritage.

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But of course it's not all about big statement pieces.

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Some of the most intriguing stories come in small packages.

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Now here in the Oak Room, there's some fascinating objects that have

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been collected by the family over the years.

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This portrait here, that's Lady Henrietta,

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who got married in 1763 to George, who later

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became the Fifth Earl.

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What you have to bear in mind, at this particular

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time in our history, marriage

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in aristocratic circles was more of a business arrangement, really.

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Let's face it. It was a way of acquiring land or a title.

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But this was a marriage that had something else.

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Now here is a handwritten letter by George's father to his mother, who

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was away sorting out the marriage plans with Henrietta's parents.

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It quite clearly shows that their son was desperately in love,

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and I'll read you the last three lines.

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"If proper, you may tell the Duchess", that's Henrietta's mother,

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"she has made me the happiest man in the world by making G,"

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that's George, "happy."

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And it certainly was a match made in heaven. They really did

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love each other, producing no less than ten children.

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And here are some little miniatures painted on ivory,

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showing the couple. The detail is absolutely exquisite.

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This little, tiny locket was designed to be carried around on your person.

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And here they're still exchanging love tokens,

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some 20 years after their marriage. I think they're exquisite.

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They are the best I have ever, ever seen.

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While this couple were playing happy families,

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other valued items in the house show a family in turmoil.

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This ribbon is thought to have been a garter ribbon of Charles I.

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The oldest and most prestigious order of chivalry in the UK.

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Charles I placed great importance on the Order of the Garter,

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and portraits like this one show him proudly wearing his blue ribbon.

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A few years later, however, thanks to the English Civil War, Charles I

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was imprisoned on the Isle of Wight by Parliamentary forces.

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A member of the family tried to rescue him.

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Although he failed, he was rewarded with this ribbon for his chivalry.

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But when Charles I was finely executed in 1649,

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it put this family at loggerheads.

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At Dunham, young Sir George Booth opposed the King's execution.

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Even leading a failed uprising.

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But his brother-in-law, the Puritan Lord Thomas Grey, did not.

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In fact, here we have a copy of Charles I's death warrant.

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Now, on it you can quite clearly see the signature of Thomas Grey,

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and it's just above Oliver Cromwell.

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As the only peer to sign, as befitting his status,

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he was allowed to go first.

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So what you have here is the same family that fought with

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Charles I also helped him lose his head.

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A fascinating insight into turbulent times in England.

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But let me take you now from a king's death to restoration...

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..as our next piece concerns Charles's son, the restored King Charles II.

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And in my opinion, I've saved the best till last.

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The library is almost the same as it was when it was first

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created by the Second Earl in the early 1700s.

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What dominates the room, though, is that fabulous carving.

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It really is astonishing.

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It's by Grinling Gibbons, my favourite woodcarver.

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He is the Michelangelo of woodcarving.

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Now this execution of the crucifixion is his earliest known work.

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He did this in 1671, and I know that Charles II wanted to buy

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this but somehow it managed to end up here as a purchase

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by the Second Earl, and what a purchase for Dunham Massey.

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To really appreciate this you have to get up close to take

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a better look. I've been given permission to climb these library steps to do just that.

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So, here we go.

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And the higher you get, well, the more it takes your breath away.

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This is phenomenal. He is a virtuoso woodworker.

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Look at all these undercuts.

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He's got in there with chisels and gouges.

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It must have taken hours and hours and hours by candlelight

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and by natural daylight. I couldn't even draw that, let alone carve it.

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The inner frame itself,

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that really is still life at life-size proportions.

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When you look at the wonderful, wonderful wheat sheaves.

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and the little flowers and the buds and the petals, it's exquisite.

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Then, you look at the narrative of the work itself

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and you see the horses and the horsemen.

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There's a chap here with his hand on his hip.

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And a wonderful beard and facial expression.

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Can you imagine how long that would have taken him? Months and months and months.

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Possibly years.

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Well, I really am tingling, and you'll have to forgive me

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because I want to stay up here for, well, for a long time,

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to take it all in, so you go one, and I'll catch you up.

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Welcome back to Wallasey Town Hall, on the Wirral peninsular.

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Our off-screen experts are being kept very busy with the queue still

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snaking its way out of the main door, through the grand staircase.

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It's also where Nick Davies has made a surprising discovery.

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Well, Amy. What's a nice girl like you doing with two swords like this?

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-My grandad gave them to me.

-OK.

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They've been passed down, like throughout the family.

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Been passed down through the family. Fantastic. Good family provenance.

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That's what we like.

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Honestly, we can discount this one more or less straight away.

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Doesn't have any great value. Poorly made, not great quality.

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This chap, however, is really nice - is in really good condition.

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On here, on the hilt here, you've got VR.

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-Do you know what would stand for?

-No.

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Queen?

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-Victoria.

-Queen Victoria. VR.

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So we can date this quite easily to her reign.

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-Do you know what this is made of?

-No.

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This is sharkskin, with this wire binding in it as well.

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And the reason why they use this, cos if your hands got

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a bit hot and sweaty, you could have a really good grip on the sword.

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The leather scabbard's in great condition.

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Often these are bent or twisted, or bits missing.

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And also the tip here.

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So a nice brass tip to protect the tip of the sword.

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And talking about the sword itself, let's have a look inside.

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We'll be very careful. A lot of people around!

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We don't want any accidents. There's the blade.

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And it's marked on the bottom - "Henry Wilkinson, Pall Mall, London."

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Henry Wilkinson. Ring any bells with you?

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If you were a lad and you were shaving, it probably will.

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Wilkinson Sword.

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You've seen the adverts with the slashed swords just like this.

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It's what's known as an 1854 pattern officer's sword.

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And it's engraved down the hilt. you've got the Prince of Wales'

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plumes engraved there as well.

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And it's in really good condition.

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There is a little bit of pitting, a little bit of greying to the blade.

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Can you see that grey colour coming through?

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It's a really good example and dates-wise, it's Victorian.

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It's going to be about 1850-1860, somewhere round about there.

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If you're happy for us to put for sale,

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we can put it through the auction,

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and I think we'd probably estimate it around £100-£120.

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We'll put this one with it, shall we? You don't want to keep that, do you?

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-No.

-No. Very wise. What would you do with the money?

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-It's not long since my grandad passed away.

-Right.

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I'm putting the money away so I can take his ashes

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-to Spain where he liked to go and so I can spread them.

-Lovely.

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-And you used to go there with him?

-Yeah.

-Excellent.

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Well, hopefully, we'll do a little bit better and good old

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Henry Wilkinson will give a bit of support to your grandad.

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Thanks ever so much for bringing them along

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and I look forward to seeing you at the auction.

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Thanks, Amy.

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Back in the main hall,

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Anita's found two lovely examples of Art Nouveau decadence.

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Barbara, welcome to "Flog It!"

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and thank you for bringing along these wonderful, wonderful hatpins.

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It's my pleasure.

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Can you tell me first of all, a wee bit about where you got them?

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Well, we used to live in New Zealand and I used to work in a

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second-hand shop and one day,

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in amongst all everything,

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the hatpins came in and I just took a fancy to them

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and asked my boss how much he wanted for them.

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And he said, "Oh, have them." He used to call me Barbie.

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"Have them, Barbie, for 20 cents."

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20 cents! Well, I think that was a bargain.

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-I think so, yes.

-I love this type of thing.

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These are hat pins that would have been made

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in the beginning of the 20th century.

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They were made by a very prestigious silversmith, Charles Horner.

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He was based in Halifax and made this type of item.

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Now these were made in 1912.

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Now let's think of the fashion at that time.

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Just a wee bit after the Edwardian time,

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when women threw away their corsets.

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They had dresses that were looser and more flowing

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and they had these enormous, wonderful hats.

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Now, they would pin these hats onto their extravagant hairdos with

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something like that and it was that extra bit of flash that were the

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Art Nouveau styles of that time,

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where we had these lovely carved motif here.

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And we have a little amethyst-coloured glass

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thistle shape.

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-So it appeals to the Scottish in me.

-Yeah.

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And it appeals to me as a lover of Art Nouveau items.

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So I think they are absolutely gorgeous.

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Now, tell me, have you ever worn a fabulous big hat at a wedding

0:32:040:32:10

and worn one of them?

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No! No, definitely not.

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Well, they were certainly a good buy for 20 cents.

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They're not rare but they're in very good condition.

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I would estimate them probably £45-£60.

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Would you be happy for me to put them into sale at that price?

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-Yes, yes.

-Yeah?

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I'm sure they'll do much better than that, but I think that is

0:32:350:32:39

an estimate which will attract the bidding.

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Will you be sorry to see them go?

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In one way, I will, because I do think they're pretty,

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but...they're not...of no use.

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Maybe the next time you go for a wedding,

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-you're wearing a big hat, you'll think...

-I should have kept them.

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Should have kept them. Anyway, thank you for bringing them along.

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-Thank you very much.

-They are lovely.

-Thank you.

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# Get my hat, I'm checking out... #

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Now it might seem a bit incongruous that there is an American

0:33:070:33:10

flag flying here inside Wallasey Town Hall in Merseyside.

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Well, there's a good reason for that.

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During the Second World War, American soldiers were billeted

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all over Wallasey and the surrounding area of New Brighton

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and those American troops proved rather popular with the young ladies

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with their gifts of chocolates and nylons.

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And in 1944, this whole area celebrated an all-American week.

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This culminated in a formal presentation where the Mayor of

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Wallasey received the American flag

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from Lt Colonel Earl Swingle of the US Army and a plaque of dedication.

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And here we are today. Now, there's something I want to show you

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because until recently, staff that worked here thought this was

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just a picture until someone opened the cabinet up.

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Take it out.

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Now, somebody opened this and had a wonderful surprise

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because inside, there are the names and addresses of all

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the American soldiers that served here during the Second World War.

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Every single one of them. Look at this!

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This is absolutely fabulous.

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These guys came from all over the US.

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They came from Vermont, the came from New York,

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they came from Ohio, Oregon, Montana, Ohio, California.

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This is quite incredible.

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I think I'm going to put that back and hopefully, somebody else, let's

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say in another 50 years' time, might have another pleasant surprise.

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While evaluations continue apace in the main hall, making

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the most of the afternoon sun, Nick Davies has headed outside with John.

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-Magnificent big building.

-Beautiful.

-And some miniatures.

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Tell me how you came about them.

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Well, my father, a Yorkshireman - his job was to clear houses

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when they were left vacant. These are a couple of things he came across.

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So houses locally did he clear, or...?

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Over in Bridlington in Yorkshire.

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I've had them about nearly 20 years now.

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-Do you know who these chaps are?

-I don't.

-Neither do I.

-No, I don't.

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They are typical miniatures of the period. They'll be painted on ivory.

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They're circa around 1850-1860, somewhere in that region.

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Very elegant gentleman.

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The artist's obviously a very good portrait painter.

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The faces are particularly good.

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The lower one is better painted and the one above.

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The hair is absolutely fantastic.

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And you look closely, the detail in those is quite remarkable.

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Single-hair brushes to paint them. I mean, patience of a saint.

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It'll be no good with me. I can't paint a door.

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-Which one of these two is your favourite?

-I like the first one.

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-The one at the bottom.

-This one here?

-Yes, yes.

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I suspect it's a gold mount, although I haven't tested it

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and it isn't marked, but a gut feeling it's probably gold.

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We'll just turn it over there

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and on the back, a fantastic plaited-hair panel

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with some gilt initials in the bottom corner.

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I think it's SM.

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The hair...memorial locket, so it's obviously when someone's died

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and this period, memorial hair lockets were very,

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very fashionable so it's been plaited in with quite some skill,

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really, hasn't it, and it's in great condition.

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We'll jump up to the chap on the top and flip it over and we have hair

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again but it looks a little bit hastily put together, shall

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we say, or maybe over the years, it's just come apart, so to speak.

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I'm just flipping them back over again.

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I still think the bottom one is painted best

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and I'd agree with you, I think that's the better example.

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Do you like them?

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Yes, I think there are collectors who'd probably appreciate them.

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-More than yourself?

-More than myself.

-Excellent.

0:36:530:36:56

-So you're happy for us to sell them?

-Oh, yes, yes.

-OK.

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So we'll put them through to the sale.

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This chap at the bottom, he's probably worth around £80-100.

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Depending on the mount of this one,

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I'd probably put him in at around £60-£80,

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-so that's where I'll leave it. Is that happy with you?

-I'm happy, yes.

0:37:090:37:13

-Thank you.

-What would you like to do with the money?

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-I'm going to buy a new fishing rod.

-A new fishing rod?

-Yes.

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I broke one the other day so the money from these will go

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-towards that.

-And you can step over what, how many feet into the...?

0:37:230:37:26

Over there! And do a bit of fishing. Fantastic!

0:37:260:37:29

-Excellent. Well, let's hope you catch a big one.

-Thank you.

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-See you at the sale.

-Thank you.

0:37:320:37:34

Well, that's it. As you've just seen,

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we found our last three items to

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take off to auction and what a fabulous time we've had.

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-Do you agree it's been good?

-ALL: Yes!

-Yes!

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We've met some wonderful characters and seen some superb antiques

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and right now, we're going to put that last batch to the test.

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So we have to say goodbye to our magnificent venue today,

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the town hall and hello to the auction room

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and here's a quick recap of what we're taking with us.

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It's all about doubling up for our last visit to the saleroom today.

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First, we've got the two Victorian swords.

0:38:020:38:04

Let's hope we can help Amy Lee raise some funds for the memorial

0:38:040:38:08

trip to her late grandfather's favourite holiday spot.

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There's those gorgeous little hatpins,

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sure to attract bids with the name Charles Horner attached.

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And finally,

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it's the two miniatures of those mysterious elegant gentlemen.

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Will a lady bidder take a shine to them?

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I think John might be pleasantly surprised.

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As we return to the noise and the commotion of the sale room,

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it's all eyes on Adam Partridge as the auction continues relentlessly forward.

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-Amy Lee, good luck with Grandad's swords.

-Thank you.

0:38:460:38:49

I've got to say, this is the cutting edge in the sale room right now.

0:38:490:38:53

-So tell me all about Grandad.

-Every year, we used to go away on holiday.

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-To...?

-To Spain.

-Yeah?

0:38:570:39:00

So we used to go every year and at December, he passed away.

0:39:000:39:04

-So you've inherited the swords?

-Yeah.

0:39:040:39:05

And what you plan to do, we're going to sell the swords to get enough

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money together for you to go out to Spain...

0:39:090:39:12

..and spread my grandad's ashes.

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Do you know what, he would love that, wouldn't he?

0:39:140:39:16

It's put a smile on your face. It means a lot to you. Did you ever go there with him?

0:39:160:39:19

-Yeah.

-Aw! Well, it's going to mean an awful lot to you.

-Yeah.

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-And your mum and dad, so what a trip.

-Yeah.

-What a trip.

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We have to hope the swords work for them, then.

0:39:250:39:28

-Yes. You've got me nervous now.

-We'll have to wait and see.

0:39:280:39:31

-Right, fingers crossed. Ready for this?

-Yeah.

-Here we go.

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It's going under the hammer.

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Sword two in the lot there. Lot 180 is the number and I'm bid 110.

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At 110, the bid at 110.

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Any advance on 110? 20. 130. 140.

0:39:420:39:44

There you go.

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Sold already. Straight in.

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150. A bidder at £150. At 150.

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At 150, all done now.

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£150.

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-Short and sweet.

-£150. Well done.

-Really pleased for you.

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Really pleased.

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And we wish you all the best, Amy Lee, on your trip to Spain.

0:40:020:40:06

Barbara, Anita, good luck. Let's stick it to them.

0:40:060:40:08

Going under the hammer right now, two silver hat pins. I love these.

0:40:080:40:12

They're kind of Art Nouveau and they're very, very fashionable.

0:40:120:40:15

Ready for this? Let's put the value to the test. Here we go.

0:40:150:40:19

-I've got 40 and five bid.

-We've sold! Yes. We've sold straightaway.

0:40:190:40:24

We did stick it to them!

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70 at the back of the room. 75 online and 75. 80 bid. 80's at the back.

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£80 on the hatpins at 80. Any more now at £80? Five. 85. 90.

0:40:320:40:38

No, 85, Internet. £85 on these and we sell, then.

0:40:380:40:43

£90. Hasn't finished yet.

0:40:430:40:46

All done, then. At £90.

0:40:460:40:50

Bang, that's finished. £90.

0:40:520:40:55

I thought we might get one more bid then, didn't you?

0:40:550:40:58

Well, it doubled the lower estimate. A great result for Barbara.

0:40:580:41:02

Now, can we do twice as well with our last lot?

0:41:020:41:06

Right now, we really do need to reel in the bidders,

0:41:060:41:08

because all the proceeds of the next sale are going towards a new

0:41:080:41:11

fly fishing rod for John, who's right next to me. A keen fisherman.

0:41:110:41:15

-Definitely.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-Trout, salmon?

-Trout, trout.

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And sea fishing.

0:41:190:41:21

Right now, we're talking about antiques.

0:41:210:41:23

We've got two wonderful miniatures painted on ivory going under the hammer.

0:41:230:41:26

-We've got a valuation by Nick of £140-180, somewhere around there?

-Yeah, somewhere around there.

0:41:260:41:30

We'll be happy with £150.

0:41:300:41:32

-They are quality. Good decorator's pieces.

-Absolutely.

0:41:320:41:35

-And Adam hasn't split them up.

-No.

-So selling as a pair.

-Yes.

0:41:350:41:38

-I think one is a lot stronger than the other.

-Absolutely.

0:41:380:41:41

-That's the one to get.

-Yeah!

0:41:410:41:42

But look, let's put it to the test, shall we?

0:41:420:41:44

Let's find out what the bidders think.

0:41:440:41:47

At 135 is this 19th-century English school oval portrait miniature there.

0:41:470:41:51

It's gone quiet. It's that tumbleweed movement.

0:41:510:41:54

-The tension's building.

-Interest ticking over online.

-Great.

0:41:540:41:59

-And we're up to £200.

-Yes, straight in.

-At £210. They are still going.

0:41:590:42:07

Yes. As long as we've got that.

0:42:070:42:09

240. 240 bid. At 250. At 260.

0:42:090:42:13

-Nice lot, this.

-At £260. John is shaking his head.

0:42:130:42:19

280 bid. 280 bid.

0:42:190:42:21

At £280, at 280.

0:42:210:42:24

Any more? 290. At 290. 300. £300 now.

0:42:240:42:28

At £300. Any more now at 300? And it's up online at 300.

0:42:280:42:33

Any more at 300?

0:42:330:42:34

20.

0:42:340:42:36

-20! Yes! Late legs.

-Someone's coming in.

-Yeah.

0:42:360:42:40

At 340. Any advance again? At £340. Are you all done, 340?

0:42:400:42:46

Last chance to bid in the room or online.

0:42:460:42:50

Yes! That's what auctions are all about.

0:42:500:42:52

That roller coaster ride of highs and lows. £340.

0:42:520:42:55

That's a lot more than what we originally said.

0:42:550:42:58

Well done, and thank you for bringing them in.

0:42:580:43:00

And I'm sure John will be out shopping for his fishing rod

0:43:000:43:03

in no time.

0:43:030:43:04

Well, there you are. That's it. It's all over and I hope you've enjoyed today's show.

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If you've got anything you want to sell,

0:43:100:43:12

we would love to do it for you.

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Bring your items along to one of our valuation days.

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Details of up and coming dates and venues you can find on our website.

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Log on to bbc.co.uk/flogit. Follow the links.

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All the information will be there and we would love to see you.

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Dust them down and bring them in.

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But right now, it's goodbye from Liverpool.

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