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These are the famous cloisters at Gloucester Cathedral.

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Their beauty and their virtuosity

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would be an astonishing achievement today,

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let alone some 700 years ago.

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And they are some of the finest examples of medieval craftsmanship

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you will find in Europe.

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And they attract thousands of visitors each year,

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including a young wizard and his friends.

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Well, if they're good enough for Harry Potter,

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they're good enough for us.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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The medieval artistry and craftsmanship

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on display within the cathedral is breathtaking.

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From the intricate stonework

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to the soaring, vaulted ceiling

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with its heavenly orchestra of angels.

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And the huge windows of coloured glass,

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casting shadows of jewelled light.

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Everything's been designed to inspire awe.

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And it certainly does.

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But just as awe-inspiring is this fantastic queue here today.

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Hundreds of people have turned up

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with, as of yet, undiscovered treasures,

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crafted by unknown hands from unknown lands

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for our experts to muse over.

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And, of course, this lot want to ask that all-important question,

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which is...

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

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And if you're happy with your valuation, what are you going to do?

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-ALL:

-Flog it!

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Right, let's get this lot inside.

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Before that, let's meet our experts, Philip Serrell.

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You have just been royally stickered, you have.

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And the security conscious Michael Baggot.

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Bag inspection. Bag inspection.

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Both are ready to do battle in their own unique way.

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Don't you dare! Don't you dare!

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Don't you dare!

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They don't like it up 'em!

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Very Dad's Army!

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All right, OK!

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In today's programme, Michael's in for a nice surprise.

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I thought it was a garden ornament, to be honest.

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A garden ornament? Whenever I been dragged down the garden centre,

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I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.

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If I had, I would have bust out into a run almost.

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And even I get carried away.

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You've made my day!

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Philip spoils it at the valuation!

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These magnificent columns that you can see in the nave

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are part of the earliest Norman building.

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Now they have outlasted the original wooden structure

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and the thatched roof.

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The red stains that you can see around the bases,

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that's evidence of an early fire.

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Now that must've been some inferno.

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Talking of fireworks, here is our first valuation.

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-Margaret, how are you?

-I'm very well, thank you.

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What brings you to "Flog It!"?

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-Oh, I love "Flog It!"

-You love "Flog It!"?

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Say it louder. Hold on...

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Who is your "Flog It!" favourite?

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Paul Martin.

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What?

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Yes.

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Well...and you. And you. I like you as well.

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-That's all right, then.

-Yeah, of course.

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What have you brought along for us?

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I've brought you some measures.

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They were at my father's shop

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and he worked for his uncle and his cousin.

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So is that the...

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George Alder.

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-That's my father's...

-From Stroud?

-From Stroud.

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This is a seed catalogue.

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Right. And who was GF Alder?

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He was my father's uncle.

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And they grew their own seed.

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This is my father.

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-That's your dad.

-Yes.

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-And he worked there, did he?

-Yes.

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-So he would have used these?

-Yes.

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So these are seed measures.

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So someone who came into the shop

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and wanted half a pint of Marigold seeds,

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you scoop them out and that's the seed measure.

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Yes, that's right.

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And what's lovely about these is the fact they're all stamped up.

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And because a measure...

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You can't just say, "Oh, that's a pint or a half pint."

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It's got the GR or George's stamp on it.

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That's right.

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And this one has got ER on it, which is Edward, isn't it?

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Yes.

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And they're stamped with the reign of the monarch and they are actually...

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It just, basically, guarantees the measure, doesn't it?

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That's right. That's right.

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And this one, which is also...

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That's a half gallon.

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-And that's such a lovely colour, isn't it?

-Yes.

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This is patina.

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Patina, it's the lines on its hands, it's the wrinkles on its face,

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it just tells you where it's been all of its life.

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And it's just lovely.

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It's like chewed toffee.

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Why would your family have kept these?

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Well, we've always had them since the shop closed down.

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-When did the shop shut?

-I think it was in the 1970s.

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-But these wouldn't have been worth a great deal then, would they?

-No. No.

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So you just kept them?

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In a way, that's been quite clever.

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Why do you want to sell them now?

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Just to meet that Paul Martin, isn't it? That's what you want to do!

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-You just want to meet that Paul Martin.

-Yeah, I do. That's right.

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Well, I wanted to sell them because they just collect dust, really.

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-Well, I think they're lovely.

-Although, I use them for pens.

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-That's a wastepaper basket.

-Is that a wastepaper basket?

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-What do you think they are going to make, then?

-Oh, I don't think much.

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What, 10 or 15 quid?

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Really?

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Each?

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-No, the lot.

-Really?

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I think you're wrong.

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I think we can put a £50 reserve on them

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and we'll estimate them at £60-£90.

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And it wouldn't surprise me, it really wouldn't surprise me

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if they made over 100.

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That's OK. Thank you.

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-So...

-Thank you.

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I'm hoping that I might have just overtaken that Paul Martin now.

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Yes. Oh, definitely. Definitely.

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OK, cut!

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Don't need any more at all, thank you!

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So Philip's fan club is up and running

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with a healthy membership of...one.

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Let's see how Michael's doing.

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John, Julie, you've brought a "Flog It!" favourite.

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-A closed box.

-Yes.

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A closed jewellery box. Now you know what's in it.

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And I peeked earlier. So shall we do the big reveal?

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-Let's do it.

-Yes, please.

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Look at that for a brooch!

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My goodness, that's going to divide opinion, isn't it?

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I think it will.

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Is it something that you both like or...?

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We both like it. But not like it enough to not want to sell it.

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-I have worn it.

-You have worn it?

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I've only worn it once.

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Our son got married in January and I wore it with my wedding outfit.

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But it's not the sort of thing I would wear normally.

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-It's a bold statement, isn't it?

-Yes, it is.

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I mean, what we've got, it's these two grey Baroque pearls.

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And when we say Baroque, all that means is they're an irregular shape.

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And someone's looked at them, a jeweller,

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and thought, what can we do with these?

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Now, in the Renaissance in the 16th century,

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-they often use them as the bodies of figures.

-Yes.

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So this jeweller's got the inspiration

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and made two little plump birds.

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And then they've gone and they've covered it

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with the most ornate and gaudy enamel colours.

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Mm-hm.

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And that says to me the 1950s.

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Right.

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Into the 1960s.

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Where did it come from, though? Did you buy it or...?

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No. My mother-in-law left it to me.

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She wore it a lot, as well.

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I've had it out and looked very meticulously.

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-There's one mark which is 750.

-Yes.

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Which is a Continental way of expressing 18-carat gold.

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Right.

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750 parts per 1,000.

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There's also a smaller mark in a punch that's shaped rather like that.

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But that punch outline is typical for Italian makers and Italian marks.

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Is it? Right.

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And I can well assume that that was made in Italy

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in the '50s, into the early '60s.

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Good news and bad news.

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Probably, when your mother-in-law was wearing it,

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it actually wasn't in fashion.

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You know, it had gone completely out of it.

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It was all elegant jewellery, you see?

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Now the younger people, they like '50s and '60s.

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They like all this...

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I hate to say the words

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"retro-vintage" ever coming out of my mouth,

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-but this is the high-end of it.

-Yeah.

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So, we look at it and we say,

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there's an amount of gold there that's worth £100.

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You've got a couple of pearls there that are probably worth £50-£100.

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So the best thing we can do

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is put it into auction with £200-£300 on it.

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-Are you happy that we pop it in for that?

-That's fine.

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Why are you parting with it now, though?

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-Because you've worn it at least once.

-I've worn it once.

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The main reason is we wanted to come to "Flog It!" We wanted to have...

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It's our fault! We are responsible!

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..a "Flog It!" experience.

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Oh, well...

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My wife was left a lot of jewellery and that's the one that, you know...

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That's the piece that has very little sentimental attachment.

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Absolutely. Yes. Yes.

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Well, let's... I dare say... Oh, it's a punt.

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But let's hope these two little chicks fly away at the auction.

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-Excellent.

-Thanks very much.

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Thank you very much, Michael.

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ORGAN MUSIC

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Leaving the tables for a moment,

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I've ascended to take a closer look at one of the cathedral's treasures.

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Towering above our valuation tables is this vast organ.

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It was built in 1662 to commemorate the return of the monarchy

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after the English Civil War,

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during which time the organ and the choir were silenced.

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I guess its size and its exuberant decoration

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reflect the joy of having music reinstated into the cathedral.

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It's definitely a statement piece.

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Well, the organist definitely has one of the best seats in the house.

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From up here,

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you get a completely different perspective of the building.

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Here, you have the choir with its vast vaulted ceiling

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and its Great East Window full of colour from the stained glass.

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And here, the nave with those gigantic Norman columns.

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Well, right now, it's time to catch up with our experts

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and, hopefully, Philip Serrell will be pulling out all the stops

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with his next item.

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Eileen, if I said to you who was probably

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one of the most famous of 20th-century potters

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that there was in this country,

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who would you... What name would you use?

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-Well, I would say Bernard Leach.

-You would say Bernard Leach?

-Yes.

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-He was the man, wasn't he?

-He was.

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-And that's not by Bernard Leach, is it?

-No, it isn't. That's David.

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And that's his son.

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-I would think this is about mid-1950s.

-Yeah.

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Well, I had it as a wedding present in 1955.

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-It's not going to be any later then, is it?

-It can't be any later.

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We've narrowed that down, haven't we?

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-It might be earlier.

-Yeah.

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And what's lovely, you can just see there, DL, can't you?

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-That's his moniker, yeah.

-David Leach.

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I mean, for 1950s, I think that's quite forward-thinking.

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Well, this is it.

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Most of Bernard Leach's pottery is very modern-looking now.

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Yeah.

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When did you appreciate what it was?

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Oh, at the time. I knew all about...

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Because I was an art student when I was younger.

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And I did know about pottery.

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I mean, I wasn't very successful myself.

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But I had learnt quite a little bit about...

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You have a good eye.

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And you can tell that from talking to you and listening to you.

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-Do you like it?

-I do.

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So why are you selling it?

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I'm not doing anything with it.

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And I don't collect erm...pottery.

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Somebody might.

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Somebody who likes to collect the Leaches.

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They might want it.

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What do you think?

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I think it's a lovely thing. I'm not quite sure...

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So it's sort of...

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This is supposedly fixed to the wall, isn't it?

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Yes, we used to have it on the wall.

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-And that fits in there.

-That fits inside, yes.

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One thing we haven't discussed with this

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is what it's going to make, have we?

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-No. Not a lot, I don't suppose.

-Any ideas?

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Well, I did have a valuation some six months or so ago.

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Oh, this is where I get all ears.

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And they said about 100.

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I think that I would estimate it at £80-£120.

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I think the time's right for 20th-century design.

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-I think it's a thing that's very in at the moment.

-Yeah.

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And our business is really driven by fashion.

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Some days, prices are there.

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And then, the next day, it's down there.

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Yes. That's it. It's knowing the right moment, isn't it?

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And this stuff is collectable. I have to say...

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-Yes?

-If I owned this...

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You wouldn't bother with that, no.

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I'd probably consign that to the bin.

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Well, let's confirm, then, that we put it into auction.

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OK.

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-And we'll put a £80-£120 estimate on it.

-Right.

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-And a fixed reserve of £80. How's that?

-OK.

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-Is that all right?

-Yep.

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-It's been really lovely talking to.

-Nice talking to you, Philip.

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-And we'll meet again.

-We will indeed.

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David Leach was the eldest son

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of the famous artist-potter Bernard Leach,

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considered the godfather of 20th-century British ceramics.

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David carried on his father's legacy,

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making pieces heavily influenced by Japanese ceramics,

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and characterised by their clean lines and oriental simplicity.

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Well, we've all been working flat out

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and, as you've just seen,

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our experts have found their first items to take off to the saleroom.

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This is where it gets exciting. Anything can happen.

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So don't go away.

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And here's a quick recap

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of the items that are going under the hammer.

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Phillip's estimate is spot-on

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for Margaret's set of early 20th century seed measures.

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There are plenty of reasons to bid for this

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pretty pearl and enamel brooch.

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And owning an original Bernard Leach is beyond most of our means.

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But Eileen's David Leach pot is an affordable alternative.

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For today's sale we've travelled across the county

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to Moore Allen & Innocent,

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situated just outside of Cirencester.

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Now, fingers crossed it's going to be packed inside

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full of bidders wanting to go home with our lots.

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I know we're going to be assured of a warm welcome

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from the proprietor and auctioneer, Philip Allwood.

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Let's catch up with our owners.

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The commission here today is 15% plus vat.

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And first up is Eileen's pot.

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A little bit of David Leach.

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Son of the grandmaster, Bernard Leach.

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I mean, it's a great name in the history of studio pottery.

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But there's something so contemporary-looking about this.

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We talk a lot about good design and good shape and good form.

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And that's what you've got to look for. And this has the lot.

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Right now, we're going to learn exactly what this goes for.

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It's going under the hammer right now.

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Let's hand things over to Philip Allwood.

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Who'll start me now at 100? 50 to get on. At £30 bid only, then.

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At £30 a bid only, then. At £30 a bid there.

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At five if you like now. 35.

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40. Five. At 45.

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50 now. 50.

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Five. Have 55. 60 now.

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At £55. It's on my right at 55. 60 anywhere?

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At £55.

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60 to me. 60.

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Five then. At 65 now.

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Oh, come on, we're selling this.

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At £65. On the book at 65.

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70 anywhere?

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At £65.

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At 70 anywhere?

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At 65...

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That wanted just a little bit more as well, ladies and gentlemen.

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-I can't believe that.

-I'm not surprised.

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I can't believe that.

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I don't think the time is right.

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-I think it is.

-You think it is?

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I think it's so right. Everybody is into that.

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-We're sorry that didn't sell.

-That's all right, Paul.

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-I think that should go home.

-I'm quite happy to take it home.

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Treasure it. Treasure it. It's a little joy.

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If I could get around better, I would look for more pieces now

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and make a collection.

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Exactly.

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So Eileen's pot lives to play another day,

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whilst Julie and John's brooch takes the stage.

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Good luck, Julie and John.

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Fingers crossed we get this away at the top end.

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We're talking about the '50s cocktail jewellery.

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There is an immense amount of work in it. It's enamel, it's pearl.

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-It's not to everybody's taste.

-No.

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But this is the jewellery that younger people

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are starting to be interested in and, hopefully, they'll be bidding today.

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Italian '50s. It's going under the hammer right now.

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At 150 bid here. 150. 160 now.

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At 150.

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160 now. At 160.

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170. 180. 180.

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190.

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200. At 200.

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At the back here at 200.

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Out on my left. At £200 it's on my right now.

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-At £200.

-That's more like it.

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200...

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Hammer's gone down. £200.

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He was spot-on, wasn't he? Well done, Michael.

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-More by luck than judgment.

-Thank you so much.

-Pleasure.

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So those birds have flown the nest

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and now it's the set of seed measures

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belonging to Philip's number one fan, Margaret.

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OK, going under the hammer right now,

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my favourite lot in the whole sale.

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Literally, in the whole sale,

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and there's around 900 lots here, Margaret.

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You've made my day.

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-Philip spoilt it at the valuation!

-I know!

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No, he didn't, actually. He had such a good time.

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And I'm really pleased that you picked these

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because I know you're a man like me who loves stuff like this.

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Why don't you want to keep these?

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-Well, I have kept them for a good while.

-Yeah.

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But I thought somebody else might like them for a change.

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-Oh, well, they're divine.

-But I shall miss them.

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-I bet you will.

-Yes.

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-They're so tactile.

-Yes.

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When you pick them up, you actually... You hold them and you...

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Someone's loved these for a long time.

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You say someone else might like them, there's two people here that'd love them!

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Hey, look, good luck. Good luck. Fingers crossed, everyone.

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This is it.

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The grain measures and the Alder of Stroud seed pamphlets there.

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Good little lot this. Should be at 100.

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Where are you going to be? Start me.

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50 to get on, then.

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At £50 bid there. Thank you. At 50.

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50. At £50. At five, if you'd like now. Five. 60.

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Five. 70.

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Five. 80.

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Five. 90.

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Come on...

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100. 110.

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At 110.

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120 now.

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At 110 I have.

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At £110. You're all out in front of me, then, now. At £110.

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Are you all done?

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Sold at top end, that's good. We happy, Margaret?

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That's good. Wonderful.

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And, hopefully, they've gone to a good home,

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-a good collector.

-Yes.

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-And they'll never be split up.

-Yes. Lovely. Thank you very much.

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-And you've made our day, anyway.

-Oh, good, I'm so glad.

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You've made our day at the valuation day,

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but you've put another smile on our faces.

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-Yes, she's a lovely, lovely lady.

-Bless you. Thank you so much.

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-Bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

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If you've got anything like that, we want to see you.

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Bring it along to one of our valuation days

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and you could be standing here, like Margaret,

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going home with a bit of money.

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A great result and I even get a kiss!

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Well, before we join up with our valuations back at the cathedral,

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I had the opportunity to take a closer look

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at some of the cathedral's stained-glass wonders.

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Amongst the cathedral's many treasures

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are its stained-glass windows.

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There are so many here, everywhere you look, you can spot one.

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In fact, there's 154 in total.

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I don't know if that's some kind of record, but it is pretty impressive.

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The art of stained glass reached its peak during the Middle Ages.

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And Gloucester Cathedral

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has one of the finest surviving examples in the world.

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This is the Great East Window.

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And it's extraordinary, not only because of its size,

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which is monumental,

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but also for the survival

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of most of its original pieces of medieval stained glass.

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Designed and constructed around 1350,

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during the reign of Edward III,

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it's survived an astonishing 600 years.

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with its intense colour still blazing.

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It's an incredibly bold and audacious design.

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It, literally, is a wall of glass bigger than a tennis court.

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And it fills that entire wall behind the high altar.

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At the time of its installation,

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that was the largest window anywhere in the world.

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There are several tiers of figures,

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starting at the bottom with the noblemen on earth,

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rising to Christ and the Virgin Mary, flanked by the 12 Apostles.

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And above, the angels, before rising to Christ in Majesty on the ceiling.

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Well, I've decided to come up here

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to get a closer look at the stained-glass windows.

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And from here, you can really appreciate the techniques

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of the medieval craftsmen.

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Each window would have been individually handcrafted in the workshop.

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They used delicate brushwork with a silver stain

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that, once fired, turned yellow.

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Well, this window is carefully thought out. It really is.

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With white glass or the tinted yellow glass for the figures,

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which are the central characters,

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surrounded by the dark reds and the dark blues

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of the background colours.

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It's quite fascinating, it really is.

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The majority of the cathedral's stained glass is Victorian,

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created during the Gothic Revival of the 19th century.

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However, the medieval influence re-emerges in these windows

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from the early 20th century.

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They're by Christopher Whall,

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a key figure in the Arts and Crafts movement.

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In the first series is The Fall Of Man from 1899,

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which shows the Garden of Eden rich and bold in colours.

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Whall's exquisite painting,

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combined with the medieval characteristics

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of texture and unevenness in the glass,

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allow the vibrant colours to glow with an internal brilliance.

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They are regarded as some of the finest examples

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of glass of the period in England.

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And they've been described as

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"perfectly medieval and perfectly modern"

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which really does sum up, for me,

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the whole ethos of the Arts and Crafts movement

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Whall's work was hugely influential for many stained-glass artists,

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including Tom Denny,

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the man responsible for these spectacular windows

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in the small side chapel of St Thomas.

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The subject overall is praise.

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And it explores the idea of praising God

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through different parts of Scripture.

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So, in the two outer windows, on the left and the right,

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there are all sorts of elements and creatures

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which come from Psalm 148.

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And then, in the central window,

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praise becomes something much more personal

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and we see Doubting Thomas

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realising that it is Christ

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and kneeling to worship him.

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Why did you choose blue?

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I decided that unified colour would allow more freedom.

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I felt that the three windows needed to have a sense of movement,

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a fluidity between them,

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so that they worked together as a whole.

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Tom's most recent work is a series of windows

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commemorating the life and the work

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of Gloucester poet and composer Ivor Gurney.

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He not only had the horrors of the First World War to endure,

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but he suffered mental depression

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and illness throughout his life.

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And I've tried to express that tightrope in all of them

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but, at the same time, to select a particular poem

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that concentrates some aspect of his experience.

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So, for example, in this group of four,

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there is a sequence, in a sense.

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The first, on the left, is a grey-white Somme landscape,

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where horses and men slain by the mud

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are emerging from a shell hole full of water.

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And there's an endless column of figures moving into the distance.

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And then the one to the right of that,

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with figures walking through the landscape,

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that's called To His Love.

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"He's gone, and all our plans Are useless indeed.

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"We'll walk no more on Cotswolds

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"Where the sheep feed quietly And take no heed."

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So there's that memory.

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But then, there's also the horror of a broken body at the bottom.

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I mean, what strikes me at first glance is the chromatic hue,

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that vivid colour.

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But once you see that and you look onto that,

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-then you start to explore the narrative, don't you?

-Yes.

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I think that's absolutely the essence of stained glass,

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that it operates, initially, as colour and light.

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So it can be, apparently, a very abstract medium.

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But then, I think it's more rewarding if you can then go on

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-and take a second sort of phase in your exploration.

-Exactly.

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And that's the key to all good art, though, isn't it, when you think about it?

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Yeah.

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Yes, I think so.

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That it deserves more than one look.

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Exactly.

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We've had a tremendous turnout today

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and there's still a lot more to get through.

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Our experts are working flat out to find an item worthy

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of such surroundings.

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Let's catch up with them for our next item.

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Lucy, I think you've made not only my day

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but my week and my month and my year...

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-Oh, my goodness.

-..by bringing in this chap here.

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Right.

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Before I attempt to tell you anything about it...

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Right.

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..what's the provenance with it, what history do you have with it?

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Basically, it's a friend of mine, who's actually 85,

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gave it to me about three years ago.

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I know it's from her friend, who gave it to her,

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and it belonged to her dad, who was a French sea captain.

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-It's a pot, obviously.

-Yes.

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Do you know any more about it?

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I thought it was a garden ornament, to be honest.

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-It's a garden ornament? You know what?

-That's about as much as I know.

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Whenever I've been down the garden centre,

0:26:480:26:50

I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.

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Well, it's terracotta, you know?

0:26:520:26:53

-If I had, I'd have bust out into a run almost.

-Yes.

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-It is, it's terracotta.

-Yes.

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It's painted terracotta. It's a very simple thing. It's potted.

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It seems to be seamed along the edge here.

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-So it possibly could have been moulded...

-Right.

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..and put together.

0:27:090:27:10

What I find most interesting, to begin with, is what's on the back.

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I know, I wondered that.

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And we've wondered what language it's written in.

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Well, I thought it was French.

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-Someone who knows Spanish thinks that they can decipher part of it.

-Right.

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-Which is, "The gift to the captain."

-Right.

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And I think, personally, there's a date there which says about 1876.

0:27:320:27:39

Really? Oh, my goodness.

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It also mentions a place name.

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-Chichen Abilen.

-Right.

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Now, that's not a million miles away from South American names

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-of very old and ancient cities.

-OK.

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And this is where this chap comes from.

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He's a pre-Columbian pot.

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-Really?

-So before Columbus went to America...

0:28:000:28:04

Pre-Columbian pot?!

0:28:040:28:05

..there were civilisations.

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-There was the Zapotec and the Mayan civilisations...

-Right.

0:28:090:28:12

..which produced pots of this similar iconography.

0:28:120:28:16

-We've got the earrings...

-Yeah, well, I thought that, yes.

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And then we've got, as a surmount on his hat,

0:28:190:28:24

this sort of monkey figurine.

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Yes. Oh, gosh, it is a monkey.

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Now, I didn't realise that was a monkey.

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-So he's a monkey, we assume, god.

-Yes.

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Oh, I didn't know that either.

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And he's obviously a warrior

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-or he's preparing to take part in one of their vicious games.

-Oh, God...

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-Right. So he's got a weapon, hasn't he?

-He's got his weapon.

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-He's got his weapon. He's got his small shield.

-Yes.

0:28:430:28:47

And it's a fascinating thing.

0:28:470:28:49

It would have been something that had been buried for a long time.

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So how old do you think it is, then?

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Potentially...

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..it could be 600 to 1,000 years old.

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No?!

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Now a lot of...

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-Not to excite you too much, a lot of this stuff does survive.

-Right. OK.

0:29:030:29:08

-You know, they dig it up in South America and Mexico...

-Yes. Yes.

0:29:080:29:11

-..quite a lot.

-Right.

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And we're not able today to tell you precisely

0:29:130:29:16

-which culture it belongs to.

-OK.

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And what the date is.

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-We can say it's pre-Columbian.

-Yeah.

0:29:210:29:23

-But it's fascinating.

-Mm...

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And, you know, we've got a pot on this table

0:29:260:29:29

-which is possibly as old as the building we're sitting in.

-That's...

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Well, I'm gobsmacked, to be honest with you.

0:29:330:29:36

-It's not a garden ornament.

-No!

0:29:360:29:38

Don't put it in the garden. I want you to put in the auction.

0:29:380:29:41

I thought it had a bit of age but, you know, not quite that.

0:29:410:29:43

-I think that's putting it mildly, don't you?

-Yes.

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Value...

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It deserves a decent valuation.

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-£200-£400.

-OK.

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-Reserve of £200. So if you're happy...

-I'm very happy.

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-..to put your garden pot...

-I am very happy.

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..in the auction.

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-I'm very happy that you came along today.

-That's brilliant.

0:30:010:30:04

-Thank you very much.

-Well, no, thank you.

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-And thank him.

-Yes, brilliant.

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-And let's hope he's a benevolent fellow.

-I hope so.

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-We'll see you at the auction.

-Great. Brilliant. Thank you.

0:30:090:30:12

It's a pleasure.

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Well, that's a "Flog It!" first, a bit of pre-Columbian pottery.

0:30:140:30:18

Now, let's see what Philip's unearthed.

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Susan, how are you?

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-I'm fine, thank you.

-And this is...?

-This is my daughter Juliet.

-Right.

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-So who's is the painting?

-The painting is mine.

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But the money is going to help Juliet

0:30:270:30:29

with her travelling and her university.

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Juliet, do you like this?

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It's interesting.

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That's interesting. I'll have to remember that.

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It's a nice artwork, but not my thing.

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-It's not your thing?

-No.

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How old do you think it is?

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I'd say...100 years.

0:30:440:30:46

It might be a little bit earlier than that.

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It's by this man called William Langley.

0:30:490:30:51

And I say this man called William Langley

0:30:510:30:53

because I've seen lots of work by William Langley,

0:30:530:30:57

but there's a school of thought that says William Langley never existed.

0:30:570:31:01

Really?

0:31:010:31:02

And he was actually a pseudonym for a man called Sherrin.

0:31:020:31:05

-Oh...

-All right?

0:31:050:31:06

And his work is always either beach scenes

0:31:060:31:09

or these sort of almost made-up Welsh mountain landscapes.

0:31:090:31:14

-Yes.

-OK?

0:31:140:31:15

And this is a painting that's sort of so out of vogue,

0:31:170:31:21

-it's sort of our generation but not your generation.

-No. Yeah.

0:31:210:31:24

And this... The heyday of this would have been in the 1970s.

0:31:240:31:28

It's what I call the rum baba and black forest gateau era, you know?

0:31:290:31:33

And this painting then could have made, in good order,

0:31:330:31:38

around perhaps £200-£400.

0:31:380:31:40

The issues with it today...

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It needs a jolly good clean under the glass.

0:31:430:31:46

-Can you see this blooming here?

-Yeah.

0:31:460:31:48

All right, so that needs sorting out.

0:31:480:31:50

If you wanted to present this at an antique fair or in a gallery,

0:31:500:31:54

you'd need to sort the frame out.

0:31:540:31:57

And that could cost you £100.

0:31:570:31:59

It's on canvas.

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Let me just...

0:32:010:32:02

The canvas is a little bit slack,

0:32:020:32:04

which means it might need restretching.

0:32:040:32:06

So we've got a work by William Langley,

0:32:080:32:11

an original oil painting,

0:32:110:32:13

-who might actually be our friend Mr Sherrin.

-Right.

0:32:130:32:16

It's painted at the back end of the 19th century.

0:32:160:32:19

It's a Welsh mountain landscape.

0:32:190:32:21

Erm...

0:32:210:32:23

What's it worth?

0:32:230:32:24

Have you got any idea?

0:32:240:32:26

-Well...

-Or have you had any comparables as to its value?

0:32:260:32:28

About 30 years ago,

0:32:280:32:29

I was told it was worth the price of a three-piece suite.

0:32:290:32:32

So I took that to mean £600-£700ish.

0:32:350:32:38

I think it's probably now the price of a second-hand three-piece suite.

0:32:380:32:41

-Right.

-OK?

0:32:410:32:43

And in auction today,

0:32:430:32:44

I would see this making somewhere between probably £50 and £150.

0:32:440:32:47

Right. OK.

0:32:470:32:48

So it's not going to be the longest trip you are going to go on

0:32:480:32:51

-but it might contribute to something else.

-Yes.

0:32:510:32:53

-Are you happy to put that into auction?

-I am happy, yes.

0:32:530:32:55

Let's keep our fingers crossed

0:32:550:32:57

and hope that we find a couple of people there

0:32:570:32:58

-who really fall in love with it.

-That would be wonderful.

0:32:580:33:01

Isn't that lovely?

0:33:040:33:06

Look at this!

0:33:060:33:08

And it still works! Good luck with that.

0:33:090:33:12

Finally, it's Michael, and a gleaming Art Nouveau bowl.

0:33:120:33:16

Joy, thank you for bringing in

0:33:180:33:20

this very intriguing and beautifully polished bowl.

0:33:200:33:23

What can you tell me about it?

0:33:230:33:25

It belongs to my mother-in-law, who's had it, I think,

0:33:250:33:27

-since probably about the 1960s.

-Oh?

0:33:270:33:31

She used to use it when she was entertaining

0:33:310:33:33

and used it to serve bread and so on.

0:33:330:33:35

Oh, lovely.

0:33:350:33:36

And she hasn't used it for many years

0:33:360:33:38

so she's now decided she'd like to sell it.

0:33:380:33:41

When she had it, well, as far as you know,

0:33:410:33:44

was it all polished like this?

0:33:440:33:45

-Had she...?

-She polished it before she handed it over to us.

0:33:450:33:48

So I'm not sure she was meant to do that.

0:33:480:33:50

Ah-ha... Right.

0:33:500:33:51

No, well, we'll get back to that later.

0:33:510:33:54

Because that raises an interesting point.

0:33:540:33:57

We've obviously got an Art Nouveau pewter bowl.

0:33:570:34:01

And if we flip it over, there's one name we want to see...

0:34:020:34:05

-..which is Liberty.

-Right.

0:34:060:34:07

And there we go. "English pewter made by Liberty and Company."

0:34:070:34:12

It would be nice if it said Tudric,

0:34:120:34:14

which is the range name for pewter made for Liberty and Co.

0:34:140:34:20

But this may predate that,

0:34:200:34:21

-because we've got a very early Liberty pattern number.

-Right.

0:34:210:34:24

0-5-3-5.

0:34:240:34:26

-And they will relate to a specific designer.

-Right.

0:34:260:34:29

But the name you look for and hope for is Archibald Knox,

0:34:290:34:33

that gifted Isle of Man designer.

0:34:330:34:36

-And this is a Knox piece.

-Yes.

0:34:360:34:37

And when you look at it, you can see his use of entrelac motifs,

0:34:390:34:44

these Celtic knots,

0:34:440:34:46

and of nature absolutely entwining with one another.

0:34:460:34:50

Very intricate and pierced. Lovely thing.

0:34:500:34:53

Now, this is exactly how it would have looked at Liberty's

0:34:530:34:57

when it was sold in about 1900, 1905.

0:34:570:35:02

It's that old? Right.

0:35:020:35:03

But, pewter... I mean, basically, it was made to simulate silver.

0:35:030:35:07

It was that planished, polished pewter.

0:35:070:35:09

Over time, pewter discolours.

0:35:090:35:12

And it goes a very dark grey.

0:35:120:35:15

Right.

0:35:150:35:16

There are two schools of thought about what you do.

0:35:160:35:19

The purists would never have you touch it.

0:35:200:35:24

They want it in utterly original condition.

0:35:240:35:26

So, from Liberty's, untouched until today.

0:35:270:35:31

And they are very dark pewter bodies.

0:35:310:35:33

The other school of thought is, well, Knox didn't design them like that,

0:35:350:35:38

he meant that they should be polished and shiny.

0:35:380:35:41

So what your mother-in-law has done

0:35:410:35:43

is very much in keeping with Knox's original thoughts and designs,

0:35:430:35:49

it just affects the value ever so slightly with collectors.

0:35:490:35:53

I think we would be sensible if we said...

0:35:530:35:57

£120 up to about £180.

0:35:580:36:01

A fixed reserve of 120.

0:36:010:36:03

And we'll hope that all the people that like polished Knox

0:36:030:36:07

are there on the sale date and it goes above that.

0:36:070:36:10

-But do you think she'd be happy with that?

-I hope so, yes.

0:36:100:36:13

Marvellous. We'll do that.

0:36:130:36:15

And I hope, on the day, we get, you know,

0:36:150:36:17

maybe up to that £200 mark for her.

0:36:170:36:19

-But thank you very much for bringing it in.

-Thank you.

-Pleasure.

0:36:190:36:22

Well, sadly, it's time to leave Gloucester Cathedral

0:36:230:36:26

and its centuries of history,

0:36:260:36:27

as we head back to the saleroom.

0:36:270:36:29

I've got my favourites. You've probably got yours.

0:36:310:36:34

But, right now, it's down to the bidders.

0:36:340:36:37

Here's a quick recap of what's going under the hammer...

0:36:370:36:39

Well, I've never seen

0:36:400:36:42

a pre-Colombian monkey warrior terracotta pot before.

0:36:420:36:45

It should create a buzz in the saleroom.

0:36:450:36:48

There's a pretty picture in there somewhere, it just needs some TLC.

0:36:520:36:56

But, at that price, it's a good investment.

0:36:560:36:59

To shine or not to shine? The eternal debate.

0:37:010:37:04

Will the bidders decide in the saleroom?

0:37:040:37:07

First up, it's Joy's Art Nouveau pewter bowl.

0:37:110:37:15

Going under the hammer right now, a bit of Archibald Knox.

0:37:160:37:19

Yes, it's that wonderful early Liberty's bowl belonging to Joy.

0:37:190:37:23

-Well, in fact, it's mother-in-law's, isn't it?

-It is.

0:37:230:37:25

And you're selling this on her behalf.

0:37:250:37:27

A great name. Everyone loves his designs.

0:37:270:37:29

Probably Liberty's best-known designer.

0:37:290:37:31

-Synonymous with Liberty's, really.

-Yeah, absolutely.

0:37:310:37:34

Fingers crossed, anyway. Let's hope we get the top end.

0:37:340:37:36

It's going under the hammer now. Good luck. This is it.

0:37:360:37:38

The Archibald Knox for Liberty dish here.

0:37:380:37:43

Start me at 100. That'd be cheap, wouldn't it?

0:37:430:37:45

£100 I'm bid there. Thank you. At 100.

0:37:450:37:46

At £100 on my right now. At 100.

0:37:460:37:48

110 on my left. At 120

0:37:480:37:50

At 120 here on my right now. 120 here.

0:37:500:37:53

At 120. Lady's bid at 130.

0:37:530:37:55

140. 150.

0:37:550:37:57

160. 170.

0:37:570:37:58

180. At 180.

0:37:580:38:00

The lady's bid at 180. 190 there back in. At 190.

0:38:000:38:03

200.

0:38:030:38:04

At 200. The lady's bid at 200. 220 now.

0:38:040:38:06

At £200.

0:38:060:38:08

It's right in front of me now, then. Lady's bid at 200.

0:38:080:38:11

Yes! Nice, round figure. £200.

0:38:120:38:15

-That's brilliant.

-Thrilled, yes.

0:38:150:38:16

Very happy.

0:38:160:38:17

-He never lets us down.

-No, he doesn't.

0:38:170:38:19

We caught up with the new owner before she left with her happy purchase.

0:38:220:38:27

It's a very nice piece of Art Nouveau pewter.

0:38:270:38:30

And what I particularly liked about it was the simplicity of it

0:38:310:38:34

and, of course, its age.

0:38:340:38:36

And I just thought, "I've got to have it."

0:38:360:38:39

I think it was a fair price.

0:38:390:38:40

There was a bit of a battle going on for it.

0:38:400:38:43

But I'm not one to give in when I really like something, so I didn't.

0:38:430:38:48

With me right now I have Susan and Juliet and our expert Philip.

0:38:510:38:54

And we have something for all you fine art lovers.

0:38:540:38:56

It's an oil and it's by William Langley,

0:38:560:38:59

who specialises in landscapes.

0:38:590:39:00

And I think this should go.

0:39:000:39:02

Philip's slightly nervous. I think he's a bit nervous on this one.

0:39:020:39:05

Look, you've pitched it right, Philip.

0:39:050:39:07

I don't see how it can't sell and sell quite well, actually.

0:39:070:39:10

No.

0:39:100:39:11

Famous last words!

0:39:110:39:13

OK. Right, it's tough being an expert, you know?

0:39:130:39:15

Let's put it to the test. Here we go...

0:39:150:39:17

And lot number 470, then.

0:39:180:39:20

The William Langley, the river landscape. Start me 50.

0:39:200:39:23

£50 to get on.

0:39:230:39:25

£30, then.

0:39:250:39:27

At £30 I'm bid there. £30. Five, anyone now? 35?

0:39:270:39:29

Five. 40. Five.

0:39:290:39:31

50. Five. 60.

0:39:310:39:33

Had £60. Five, if you like, sir. At £60. Five?

0:39:330:39:35

70. At £70.

0:39:350:39:37

Five, if you like now. At £70. Five on the net.

0:39:370:39:39

At 75 now. At 75.

0:39:390:39:42

80 now. At £75. You're out in the room now. It's 75 here.

0:39:420:39:45

All sure? You're out in the room, then. Are you all done at 75?

0:39:450:39:48

-It's not going to get a three-piece suite, is it?

-No.

-No.

0:39:480:39:50

But it sold. £75. Spot on, Philip.

0:39:500:39:52

Someone got a bargain.

0:39:540:39:55

But it'll cost a bit to bring it fully back to life.

0:39:550:39:57

Now, for Lucy's pre-Columbian figure.

0:40:000:40:03

Before the sale, I asked Philip, the auctioneer,

0:40:030:40:05

what he thought about it.

0:40:050:40:07

It's very hard to be absolutely certain about these things

0:40:070:40:10

when they come into a sale.

0:40:100:40:11

There were a lot of these pieces produced through the 18th, 19th

0:40:110:40:15

and well into the 20th and even the 21st-century,

0:40:150:40:18

so I was very glad to have a true verification given for this piece

0:40:180:40:23

by, you know, relevant specialists.

0:40:230:40:25

I would expect it to be fairly keenly contested,

0:40:260:40:29

but only to a level.

0:40:290:40:31

Well, that only adds to the intrigue of this item.

0:40:310:40:33

Here it is now...

0:40:330:40:34

OK, the moment I have been waiting for

0:40:360:40:38

since that valuation day in that wonderful cathedral.

0:40:380:40:40

I mean, that was an old building.

0:40:400:40:42

But, I think, what we're selling right now

0:40:420:40:44

has to be, I think you'll agree,

0:40:440:40:46

the oldest thing on the show so far,

0:40:460:40:48

which Michael spotted.

0:40:480:40:50

-Thank you for bringing it in.

-It's an absolute pleasure.

0:40:500:40:52

-On the day, we said it might be 15th century or earlier.

-Yes.

0:40:520:40:55

Well, we've done subsequent research and it's a lot earlier.

0:40:550:40:58

It's the first pre-Columbian civilisation.

0:40:580:41:00

So this is quite exciting. You can learn so much on this show.

0:41:000:41:04

What do you think of this, Lucy? Now you want to keep it?

0:41:040:41:06

Well, it makes you feel a bit strange about it

0:41:060:41:09

because it is so old. You know, I'm fascinated.

0:41:090:41:11

I think it's...

0:41:110:41:12

It's the most perplexing

0:41:120:41:15

and intriguing object we've ever had on "Flog It!".

0:41:150:41:18

Certainly I've ever seen.

0:41:180:41:19

-That's brilliant. I'm thrilled. I'm so excited.

-Fingers...

0:41:190:41:22

I hope someone really wants it.

0:41:220:41:24

Anyway, look, it's out there right now.

0:41:240:41:25

-This is your lot going under the hammer.

-Fingers crossed...

0:41:250:41:28

Don't go away, don't make a cup of tea. Watch this. Here we go.

0:41:280:41:31

The warrior with the sword and shield there. Northern Peru.

0:41:310:41:36

Nice and early, between 100 and 800 AD.

0:41:360:41:39

And I have to start you here on the book at £200. At 200 I'm bit here.

0:41:390:41:44

At 200. 220 now if you like. At £200. Good early piece.

0:41:440:41:47

At 200. At 220. 240.

0:41:470:41:49

260. 280.

0:41:490:41:51

300. 320.

0:41:510:41:52

-They want it.

-340.

0:41:520:41:55

360. At 360.

0:41:550:41:56

At 380 now. 360 here.

0:41:560:41:58

At £360.

0:41:580:42:00

He's going to sell at 360.

0:42:000:42:02

You all sure at 360?

0:42:020:42:04

Hammer's gone down. Good valuation, Michael.

0:42:060:42:08

Well, it's at the top end of our estimate.

0:42:080:42:10

And I think the only thing is

0:42:100:42:11

you do see these pots make a lot more money when all the glazes are intact.

0:42:110:42:17

Because the glazes on these, when they're just excavated,

0:42:170:42:19

are like chocolate and they're shining.

0:42:190:42:21

So it's had 130 years of wear.

0:42:210:42:24

It might have been out in the garden for some of that.

0:42:240:42:26

Well, it's an absolutely fascinating piece of history.

0:42:260:42:29

That is a little document of social history from Peru.

0:42:290:42:32

Has it made you think, oh, actually,

0:42:320:42:34

I should really gen up on this a bit more and read about it?

0:42:340:42:37

Well, yeah, because you don't know anything about these things, do you?

0:42:370:42:40

Until you meet up with Michael.

0:42:400:42:42

Well, it started me off on a whole round of reading and research.

0:42:420:42:46

And you just look at them, and it's so fascinating.

0:42:460:42:49

And if you've got something like that, we want to flog it.

0:42:490:42:51

It's been a terrific day

0:42:530:42:55

and we've seen some weird and wonderful items

0:42:550:42:57

and met some delightful people.

0:42:570:42:59

And I hope you've enjoyed it as much as I have.

0:43:000:43:02

From all of us here in Gloucester until the next time, it's goodbye.

0:43:030:43:06

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