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This is the great drawing room of Newstead Abbey in Nottinghamshire,

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once home to the poet Lord Byron.

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It was saved for the nation by two families, who transformed it from

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a ruinous wreck into the spectacular estate that we all see today.

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Later on in the programme, we'll be finding out

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how they left their mark. Welcome to "Flog It!"

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Southwell Minster in Nottinghamshire

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is admired for its soaring beauty and elegant arches, but this minster

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is also special, because it's a place where spirituality and art meet.

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It's bursting with creative touches,

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from medieval carvings to modern sculpture.

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We'll be seeing some of the divine inspiration that has made

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Southwell Minster so special later on in the programme.

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But right now, let's see

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if we can inspire this magnificent crowd to sell their antiques

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because all they need is a favourable valuation from our experts.

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-And what are you going to do?

-Flog it!

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Our experts, Michael Baggott and Mark Stacey, are keen to find the

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best of art and design amongst the bags and boxes.

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Oh, I love her.

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They're already fighting over the treasures lining up for their scrutiny.

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We'll put you down as a maybe.

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Never mind, you're all right.

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So, on the show today, creative inspiration spanning 300 years.

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-From the handmade...

-You know, they just used very basic

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tools and equipment to make these. It's amazing, really, that it's survived.

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..to the heaven-sent.

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There's something I must show you, because it's my favourite piece of sculpture here in the minster.

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And some great sales thrown in for good measure.

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That is a fantastic result. Your first auction and a big sale.

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# Gloria

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# Gloria Gloria... #

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The first thing that hits you

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when you cross the threshold of the minster is this magnificent statue

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up there, shining down on this wonderful crowd.

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It's known as Christus Rex and it's by the British modern sculptor

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Peter Ball. Peter Ball is famous worldwide

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for creating over 300 statues like this one in places of worship.

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But I think this one's rather special.

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It's made of elm, copper-plated gold leaf,

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and as it shimmers down here, lighting up this room, let's hope it can shed some

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light on our valuation tables, and let's catch up with Mark Stacey.

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I know he has just spotted a real treasure.

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Brenda, I couldn't think of a more appropriate thing to come into a

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valuation day this year than a piece of trench art from the Great War.

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Now, what is the history of it?

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My grandfather's colleague made it in the trenches and

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unfortunately he got injured.

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-As he lay dying, he gave it to my grandfather.

-Oh, God.

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-It's a bit sad.

-It's very sad, isn't it?

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And your grandfather's obviously passed it down to your father.

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-Yes, and he's passed it to me.

-That's amazing, isn't it?

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Absolutely amazing, because when you think... It was a horrible war.

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I mean, all wars are horrible, but that one particularly with

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those poor young men, trapped in the trenches for month,

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after month, after month.

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And of course, in amongst the intermittent firing

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and fighting there were long periods of time

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-I suppose where...

-They had to find something to do.

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When you pick it up, Brenda, you can see it's sort of a shell case, isn't it?

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And then these little strips here

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are probably another shell case, aren't they, which have been flattened out.

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And I noticed that the wheels are made out of buttons.

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Tunic buttons from his regiment.

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There was at one time a little propeller on the front, but that's...

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They just used very basic tools and equipment to make these. It's amazing, really that...

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-They could manage to do it in the trenches.

-Exactly.

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And that it survived.

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Why have you brought it in today?

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Well, it's just in the loft, wrapped up, and I'd like somebody who could

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appreciate it to have it more.

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-Somebody who would restore it and add it to their collection.

-Yes.

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Well, there's a great interest in this type of thing,

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but it's so interesting to see a biplane, because of course,

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-planes were quite a new thing then.

-That's right.

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We take them for granted these days, don't we, flying across the Atlantic,

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but at the time they were rarities.

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It's got a real sentimental look to me.

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-Crudely done, but very emotional, really, isn't it?

-Yes.

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I love it, actually. I think there'd be a lot of collectors who love it.

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In terms of value I think we've got to be realistic,

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and I would have probably put an estimate of something like £150

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to £250 on it, with £150 reserve. Would you be happy with that?

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-Yes, that's fine.

-Well, I look forward to seeing you at the auction

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and thank you so much for bringing it in.

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Thank you.

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I'm sure the collectors will love this little aeroplane.

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It's an extraordinary work of artistic expression

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that emerged out of such a tragic experience.

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Meanwhile, Michael's in his element with a table of silver that

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has a fascinating provenance.

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Hugh, Marilyn, thank you so much for coming along today

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and bringing this little cache of Russian treasure.

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How did you come to own these?

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They came to me from my father, who lived in Russia for a time,

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and my grandfather was manager of a mill there.

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They had to leave rather abruptly because the Revolution,

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and obviously some things like this came back with them.

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That's marvellous. What's actually very nice about these three pieces

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is they cover the three techniques you're most likely to see

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-on Russian silver.

-Right, right.

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So we've got...chasing, which is basically the manipulation through

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hammering and pushing and modelling of a scene on a cigarette case.

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We've got...cloisonne enamel,

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so you've got all these overlaid wires.

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-They're all individually twisted and soldered on.

-Amazing.

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And when that's done, they're individually filled with

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colours of enamel and fired until it's built up to a level.

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It's a very labour-intensive technique.

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The last technique we've got is the wonderful use of niello, which

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is a black, sulphurous inlay, which when you apply it to the silver...

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it's almost like drawing a picture,

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and that's a very nice decoration on a spoon.

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In terms of date and places of manufacture,

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the vesta case will be Moscow about 1880-1890.

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The spoon...1870-1880.

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And those we'd put together in a lot.

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The real star of the show is the cigarette case.

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The Russians were desperately fond, firstly of smoking,

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-and secondly of presenting cases as gifts.

-Right.

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We've got the wonderful scene of a troika being pulled by horses

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through the snow, and on the back we've got this wonderful,

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elaborate Cyrillic style, but European initial

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and we've got the inscription,

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-"First prize, Easter Handicap, Thornton Woollen Mills 1909."

-Yeah.

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Wonderful. It's like a potted history of Russian silver.

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-Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

-It's great.

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I think these we're very comfortable at putting...

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£200-£300 on the spoon and vesta case and a fixed reserve of £200.

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I don't see a problem with that at all.

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The case is the more valuable item and I think we would put £400-£600,

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because we're absolutely certain of its provenance and its authenticity.

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I think we'd probably put a reserve of £380 on that, fixed.

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We'll put them into the sale, we've got our fixed reserves,

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-let's hope we do very much better than that as well on the day.

-We hope so.

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Thank you both very much for bringing them in.

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Three techniques for the price of one on those pieces that

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evoke the old Russian Empire. That should find a keen buyer.

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The lovely thing about Southwell Minster is that they have brought

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such an eclectic mix of art and sculpture into the space.

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But I'm here to look at something really special - two works of art,

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the first by one of our best-loved artists, J M W Turner,

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and one by his contemporary, and friend, the painter, Thomas Girtin.

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This is a pen and wash study by Turner, and it's thought to be

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one of the earliest known examples of the cathedral.

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It was done in around about 1793, when Turner visited.

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He must have enjoyed his stay, and he had the pleasure in

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drafting up this wonderful image of the minster.

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Now, interestingly enough, Turner's great friend Girtin also painted

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the minster, and this is a Girtin image.

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Slightly more colourful and slightly more detailed, and this was done

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around about the same time, 1793, and Turner actually admitted that

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if Girtin hadn't died prematurely and went on to live a lot longer,

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he probably would have out-painted Turner.

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This beautiful painting shows just why Turner admired Girtin so much.

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Girtin died at the age of just 27, but had he survived, it's possible

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he could have become a painter to rival his great friend.

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How fitting, therefore, that the minster have brought them back together.

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Turner was in his early artistic years when he drew that picture,

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and Mark's next object is by an equally youthful band

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that was trying to make it musically when this came out.

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-Hello, James.

-Hello, Mark.

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Now, you've brought this Rolling Stones album, and I understand it's

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quite an early album, is that right?

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-Yes. It would be first album they did.

-Very young faces there.

-Absolutely.

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-They all look very innocent there, don't they?

-Well, yes... Not for long.

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It's an interesting story, isn't it, because you got it through a family member.

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Yes, my stepfather I believe shared a flat with a gentleman who was

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a jobbing artist, he did covers of albums and books and he

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happened to be speaking to somebody in a studio somewhere and The Stones

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came in with this album, and all signed it and gave it to him.

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Obviously it wasn't of any great interest to him,

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because he went back to their flat and threw it in the bin

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and my step-father pulled it back out of the bin and kept it.

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I'm guessing here in the...mid-'60s there were a lot of budding

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pop groups, and I suppose nobody realised who were going to become

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the huge hitters, if you like -

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The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, other bands.

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It is interesting, though, because this was their first album.

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It says there 1964.

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Incidentally, that was the year I was born...1964.

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So that's a tie-in. You can see these songs were not written by them at all...

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Route 66, I Just Want To Make Love To You.

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So these are all sort of cover versions, aren't they?

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They've obviously got a bit of self-publicity there,

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-maybe you can read some of that, James.

-OK, um, thanks...

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-And how right they were!

-Yeah... Yeah, I'm sure they did at the time.

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There is, as you say, the signature of Mick Jagger.

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-It's done in pencil, so it's slightly faded.

-It has done, yeah.

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It's not too keen on being in bright lights.

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Neither am I. There's other signatures on here.

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Of course, the interesting thing is had it not been signed at all by

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The Rolling Stones, even with the faded signature, I can't imagine

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the album would be worth half as much as it would with the signature.

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It's all-important, isn't it?

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The other key thing, of course, is that it's framed. We can't take it out of the frame at the moment,

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-but there is a record inside, isn't there?

-It's the original

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record in the sleeve, yeah.

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So I think that's important for the auctioneer to put in the catalogue description -

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it's not just the album cover,

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it's the record that goes with it which is quite important.

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I have to be honest, James, I'm not a big expert in rock memorabilia,

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but I think it will have interest.

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My gut feeling is around £200-£300 with a fixed reserve of £200.

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-Would you be happy do give it a go for that?

-Yeah.

-Are you sure?

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-Wonderful, well, let's give it a try.

-Thanks, Mark.

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And maybe we'll make happy music at the auction when it flies past.

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-Hopefully.

-Fingers crossed.

-Brilliant.

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Well, I'd like to think this album rock and rolls

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into the hands of fan at our auction.

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# I've got them moooves like Jagger. #

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Before we go off to auction, there's something I really must show you,

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because it's my favourite piece of sculpture here in the minster.

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And here it is - I think it's rather tactile.

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It's so simple, it speaks volumes to me.

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He's known as Ecce Homo - behold, the man -

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and he's by the artist and sculptor Peter Ball, who was responsible

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for the piece we saw earlier, Christus Rex, above the knave.

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I think this is stunning.

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But the masterpiece about it is that it's been fashioned

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out of an old railway sleeper.

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And if you look closely, you can actually see all the rough marks.

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You can see the oak splitting here and all the old

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bolt holes through it and the way it's been chipped and worn.

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It's incredibly tactile,

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and it's been put here for you to enjoy,

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for you to actually touch and put some more patina on it, because

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that's what sculpture's all about, to be viewed and to be touched.

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Well, right now it's off to auction and let's hope these

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three items will prove to be sleepers as well.

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Let's hope we can triple their value. And here's a quick recap of all the items we're taking with us.

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We have Brenda's astonishing piece of World War I art

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that survived the trenches.

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There's Hugh's Russian haul of silver,

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saved during the Russian Revolution.

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And will The Rolling Stones classic, rescued from a bin,

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attract the bidders at auction?

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We're moving up the road to Nottingham for our auction today,

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where creativity is in the city's bones. For 150 years,

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Nottingham was synonymous with the lace-making industry.

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Today, the lace-making quarter, known as the Lace Market,

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has transformed into a hub for boutiques and shops.

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And our auction house today, Mellors and Kirk,

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is also a hub of excitement as the sale is just about to start.

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So let's go inside and catch up with auctioneer Nigel Kirk,

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who's on the rostrum today.

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And today, the seller's commission set by the auction house

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is 15%, plus VAT.

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So, let's get under way with our first lot,

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the incredibly special biplane.

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It's a bit of trench art and it's incredibly hard to value

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because you can't do comparables. It belongs to Brenda - hi there!

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I love what you're wearing, it's lovely and bright. And who's with you?

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-It's my husband, Dave.

-Dave, pleased to meet you.

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Well, I'll tell you what, this little plane does actually put

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a smile on your face, doesn't it?

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It's a very rare item, Paul, and I love the way they've used

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little regimental buttons for the wheels.

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It is a one-off, as you say, Paul, and any collector of militaria and First World War memorabilia

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would love to add this, I'm sure, to their collection.

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Fingers crossed we get this away. Here we go.

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A brass, iron and copper model of a biplane.

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£50 I am bid for this. 50, 60 anywhere? 60, 70.

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80...£80! 90 for it?

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90...100...and 10.

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120? 110 and 120.

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130. 140?

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At £130... 140. 150.

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160... At 150... At £150 in the room and selling...

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160. 170, madam?

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No. At £160, I shall sell.

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Sold at £160. That was OK.

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-That was all right, wasn't it?

-Yes.

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And it looks like it's gone to a collector, which is a nice thing.

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Hopefully they will enjoy it, yes.

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Thanks for bringing that in, because, really, at the end of the day

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it's all about the story and what we're reminded of. So thank you.

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What a pleasure to see such a poignant memento to World War I.

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That deserved every single penny.

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Now time for Hugh's collection of silver that dates from just

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before the Russian Revolution, and it's going in as two lots.

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I've just been joined by Hugh and Marilyn, and under the hammer

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right now we are putting their Russian silver cigarette case.

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It is absolutely stunning, this is.

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You brought it to the right man as well.

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The most important thing about this is it's genuine, we've got

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a trail of provenance going back in your family.

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To the Baltic, which I think is fantastic.

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-Top end or lower end?

-Happy with the reserve, Paul.

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Happy with the reserve! OK, we're going to put it to the test.

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Here we go. Good luck, both of you.

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Russian silver cigarette case, Moscow 1908-1909.

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-Sounds really exotic, doesn't it?

-It does.

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At £250 for this lot, I am bid.

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250. 280...

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280... 300 on commission.

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-320, 350...

-Come on, we've got to return the 380.

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-400.

-Yes!

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And 20.

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450...480.

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It's going in the room, all right. Nothing online.

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No Russian oligarchs.

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£500.

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Top end, well done.

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-We got that. £500. Happy with that, aren't you?

-Yeah, yeah.

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And next, that delightfully worked vesta case and spoon.

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And £180 for this lot is asked and bid.

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180, 190, 200...220.

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At 220 I am bid.

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£220. 250 for them?

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250. 280. 280 before you.

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300, do I see? At £280 my bid...

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Collectors and dealers always like a couple of things in the lot.

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£350 from Russia.

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From Russia... What do I know? What do I know?

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Selling at £350.

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-Bid from Russia.

-Maybe the postage is cheap because they're small.

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It's gone back to where it belongs. That is brilliant, isn't it?

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-From here in Nottingham, that's going all the way back to Russia.

-Amazing.

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It looks like this will be going back to Russia with love.

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Quite a haul for Hugh, with a total of £850.

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And for our third lot,

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will The Rolling Stones attract the auction crowds?

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Well, I've just been joined by James, our next owner, and our expert, Mark Stacey.

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We're talking about The Rolling Stones album,

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signed by the boys themselves. My favourite band.

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I'd be keeping this if I was you. I'd have that on the wall.

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-I did.

-You did.

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Yeah, I did for a while, but Mick Jagger signed it in pencil,

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it started fading and I panicked, so I took it off the wall.

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Yeah, OK, so it's a good time to part with it.

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We're going to put that value to the test, Mark.

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-Well, we know pop and rock memorabilia is very popular.

-We do.

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Here we go.

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And £150, I'm bid, 150.

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At £150.

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160, 170, 180, 190

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200, at £200 bid.

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220, 250, 250,

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250, I'm bid.

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280, 280, 300.

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320, 350,

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380, 400.

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420.

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£400, against you, online.

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£400, fair warning.

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Well, that's a good result, £400. I'm happy, are you happy?

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-Yeah, I think that's fair enough.

-That's not bad, is it?

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-Considering the condition there.

-Yeah, it was a bit tatty.

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And you got it for nothing.

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Well, that helps, yeah.

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One satisfied customer

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and now someone else can preserve that bit of rock'n'roll history.

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Well, that's it, that's the end of our first visit to the sale today.

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We are coming back later on, so don't go away.

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Now, not far from here is a stately home called Newstead Abbey,

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lived in by the same family for nearly 300 years,

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but they did leave it in a bit of a dilapidated state.

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But luckily for the house, and the nation,

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the next two families who came along to buy it realised it had

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something special, it was worth saving,

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but it needed a great deal of tender, loving care.

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I went to Newstead Abbey to find out more.

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Newstead Abbey. Today, one of the great stately homes of England.

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Rooms overspilling with splendid furnishings.

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Intricately decorated with oak carvings.

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Family portraits peering down at you.

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Everything you'd want in a stately home but there was a time

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when this place fell far short of the term stately.

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It was down to two visionary families to rescue this place

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but first, I want to find out why it fell into such a parlous state.

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Like any good soap opera, the Byron family had their ups and downs

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over their 300 years here, counting bad debt,

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insanity and even manslaughter amongst the family sagas.

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So, by the time the poet Lord Byron inherited the house,

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Newstead was what one friend described as an extensive ruin.

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By the age of 21, Byron had moved in with small means

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but a whole host of his buddies.

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He treated Newstead as his bachelor pad,

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maintaining a few rooms for himself whilst leaving other rooms for his caprices.

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In fact, this room, the great hall, he used as...

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-GUNSHOT

-..pistol practice.

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And this room was empty but he still put it to good use,

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for fencing and boxing practice,

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like any red-blooded 18th-century Lord would do.

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But it was an expensive place to run.

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While he may have been adept with words, he was not good with money.

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In 1818, Byron was forced to sell the house to his great long-time friend Thomas Wildman.

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Wildman immediately realised that the massive purchase cost of 94,500

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wasn't just buying him a house, it was buying him something far greater,

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a duty to preserve and protect the Byron legacy.

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There's something I want to show you in this cabinet.

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It's a letter from Byron to Wildman written in 1818 and in it,

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Byron gives him his blessing. It really is quite touching.

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It reads something like this, the extract from the bottom,

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"I trust that Newstead will, being yours,

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"remain so and that it may see you as happy as I am very sure that you will make your dependence."

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So, you can see, he really is letting go

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and he's saying, "Come on, love this house like I have."

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That really is quite sweet.

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With a big thumbs up from Byron, Wildman spent a small fortune

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on a makeover that transformed the house.

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Now, I love little documents of social history which give us a window into the past

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and we normally see it on bits of paper and photographs but

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surprisingly, here, you've got it on beautifully decorated serve plates.

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This is gorgeous.

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These are images of Newstead Abbey just prior,

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two or three years before Wildman got his hands on the property.

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Of course, once he did

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Wildman demolished this staircase that you can see there.

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But the Wildmans did an awful lot to this house to turn it

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into what we see today, a proper family, a comfortable family home.

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But these plates were painted by Wildman's sister, Maria,

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who was a talented amateur porcelain painter in her day

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and it's because of her we've got this document of the past.

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Wildman had put his stamp on this place while being faithful

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to Byron's wishes and the Byron fans flocked here to see where

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the great poet had lived and loved.

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When Wildman died, it could so easily have

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fallen into the hands of someone who had no interest in the Byron legacy.

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Now, by luck or by good fortune, the next family to arrive in 1861

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were keen to celebrate Byron here at Newstead.

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Now, that is a portrait of William Webb, a wealthy landowner.

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His wife, Emilia, was keen to keep the Byron tours going

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here at the house, so keen she even took the tours around herself.

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Leading her children to tease her, that she was Byron's caretaker.

0:25:030:25:08

She methodically carried on Wildman's buying spree,

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collecting back Byron's personal effects, furniture and pictures.

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The cabinets here in the library are filled with Byron's things.

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Most of them Byron left here but the Wildmans

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and the Webbs have added to it,

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returning things to their rightful place, which is absolutely marvellous.

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We've been given special permission to open these cabinet doors,

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just so you can get a better look.

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You can tell they haven't been open for a long time, that's an old door creaking.

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But look, Byron's boxing gloves, he was a keen fighter.

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He followed the sport, he was a good fighter as well.

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There's a dog collar belonging to one of Byron's dogs,

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beautifully inscribed "Hon Lord Byron".

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Best thing I like though, is this section of tree which has been cut down.

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Look, it's got "Byron". He carved that in with quite a crude knife.

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Byron and Augusta, his half-sister, on 20th September 1814.

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Isn't that lovely?

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Here it is, look, in the cabinet, which I'm just about to shut.

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Isn't that nice?

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By the 1870s, Byron's Newstead was really on the map and was said to be

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on the top ten list of Victorian favourite country houses to visit.

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But, like the Wildmans, the family put their own personal stamp on the house too.

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One of the many treasures that the Webb family introduced

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to this house was this incredible Florentine centre table.

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It dates back to the 18th century.

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Now, you may be forgiven for thinking that this top is

0:26:370:26:41

just decoration that's painted on but it's not.

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I've not seen work like this in my life before.

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This is known as pietra dura, which means painting and drawing in stone.

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It is literally set in stone. This image is there forever.

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Each individual piece, each individual colour,

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is a different piece of marble or semi-precious stone mined from the quarries in Italy.

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This is a specimen top table and it is incredibly rare and incredibly expensive.

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This is done by a master of the genre, a chap called Zocchi,

0:27:100:27:12

in his studios in Florence.

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It's dizzying and it's really, really incredible.

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And this is one of their greatest legacies, the Japanese room,

0:27:240:27:27

created by daughter Geraldine. Sort of circa late 1890.

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She brought these wooden panels back with her and on them,

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they depict scenes of pine trees, oak trees and cranes,

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all very symbolic to Japanese culture.

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I think it's absolutely incredible.

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And I love these painted images above as well.

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This is gold leaf on paper. Look at the cranes! Isn't that fabulous?

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This is a touch of the Orient, coming to Nottinghamshire.

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Much of the house today is as both families left it

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and it's now in the safe hands of Nottingham City Council.

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What is so amazing about the Wildmans and the Webbs

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is they felt a real sense of duty to preserve this place, Newstead,

0:28:110:28:16

not just for their generation to pay homage to Byron but for future generations

0:28:160:28:20

so people like us could come here and enjoy it too.

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Welcome back to our valuation day here at Southwell Minster.

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It's now time to catch up with our experts.

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It's lights, camera, action as we look for more antiques to take off to auction.

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Dawn, where on earth did you get this lovely Cartier watch from?

0:28:460:28:50

Well, when my father died,

0:28:500:28:52

I know there were a lot of things in the loft.

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So, me and my sister went up and had a look in the loft

0:28:540:28:56

and that's where we found it. Didn't know where he got it.

0:28:560:28:59

-In a box, or...

-No, just like that.

-Just like that, gosh.

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-And you don't know where he got it from?

-No idea at all.

-Wow.

0:29:030:29:07

Well, it's a very interesting watch,

0:29:070:29:09

it's by a very well-known watchmaker who's called Cartier.

0:29:090:29:12

Oh, yeah.

0:29:120:29:13

And this particular model is called a Roadster and we know that

0:29:130:29:17

because it's titled on the back - Cartier Roadster.

0:29:170:29:22

So, you found it when?

0:29:220:29:23

Erm, just before Christmas.

0:29:230:29:26

-Oh, right, so quite recently.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:29:260:29:28

And you haven't done anything with him, you thought

0:29:280:29:31

-you'd bring it along today.

-Yes, that's right, yes.

0:29:310:29:33

-Wonderful, I'm glad you did.

-Oh, right, thank you.

0:29:330:29:36

Of course, what we're all looking for is the gold versions from the 1930s.

0:29:360:29:39

All right, yeah.

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This is a stainless steel model from the 1950s, probably.

0:29:400:29:44

But the movement will be very top quality.

0:29:440:29:48

They're also known for their stylish designs and gentlemen these days

0:29:480:29:53

like these chunky, good-looking watches and this fits that bill.

0:29:530:29:57

-All right, yeah.

-It's a great shape.

0:29:570:29:59

-Have you ever thought of the value?

-No, I haven't. Not at all.

0:29:590:30:04

Well, I would suggest putting it in at £800-1,200 with a £700 reserve.

0:30:040:30:09

-Yep.

-Now, are you and your sister happy with that?

-Yes.

0:30:090:30:14

-Nobody wants it in the family?

-No.

0:30:140:30:17

You can put it towards something you want.

0:30:170:30:19

That's it. Holiday or something.

0:30:190:30:20

-Oh, it sounds lovely, doesn't it? Can I come with you?

-Yeah, you can.

0:30:200:30:25

Come in my suitcase.

0:30:250:30:26

I'm not sure Mark will fit.

0:30:280:30:31

Now, Michael has come across something we don't see every day on "Flog It!".

0:30:310:30:35

Jackie, thank you for bringing this wonderful knife in.

0:30:350:30:38

-I almost pounced on you in the queue, didn't I?

-You certainly did.

0:30:380:30:41

It's just everything that I absolutely love.

0:30:410:30:45

What can you tell me about it? Where does it come from?

0:30:450:30:47

I've no idea. My father used to go into junk shops

0:30:470:30:51

and just pick up little items and that's where he's picked it up.

0:30:510:30:54

-Junk shops.

-Yes, in the olden days.

0:30:540:30:56

I need a time machine to go back to the time when you could buy

0:30:560:31:00

-things like this in junk shops.

-I would say it would be '60s.

0:31:000:31:04

'60s, yep.

0:31:040:31:05

The first thing, without even picking it up,

0:31:050:31:08

-is the shape of that blade.

-Yes.

0:31:080:31:10

-Now, have you thought about how old it might be?

-Erm, 17-something?

0:31:100:31:16

-17-something. Close, 16-something.

-Oh, wow.

0:31:160:31:20

It's a late Charles II, William III knife and what you get is,

0:31:200:31:25

you get this little swept back scimitar to it and that would be

0:31:250:31:30

for when you had a dish with your salt on the edge of the plate.

0:31:300:31:34

-Right.

-Now, you wouldn't, like we do today, go in all hands blazing.

0:31:340:31:39

You would take your knife

0:31:390:31:40

-and take the salt off the edge like that and sprinkle it.

-Oh, right.

0:31:400:31:45

-So, that had a specific purpose.

-Yes.

0:31:450:31:47

The handle, it's what we call a cannon handle,

0:31:470:31:53

which is late 17th century.

0:31:530:31:55

But it's slightly better than just a plain cannon because, if you look here,

0:31:550:31:59

you've got all this foliate decoration and that's been applied.

0:31:590:32:05

That's what we call cut-card work.

0:32:050:32:07

So, another piece of silver's been cut out

0:32:070:32:10

into that foliate shape and that's been soldered on.

0:32:100:32:13

That's made it thicker and it's brought all the decoration

0:32:130:32:17

out in relief and you've got a little baluster turning.

0:32:170:32:20

-It's just a beautiful, beautiful thing.

-Yes.

0:32:200:32:23

I mean, originally you would've had a set of either

0:32:230:32:27

this fork and spoon in a little travelling case

0:32:270:32:30

and you'd have those about your person when you went to dine,

0:32:300:32:33

-or if you were slightly wealthier you might have a set of 6 or 12 of these.

-Oh, wow.

0:32:330:32:39

I love it. It's absolutely the sort of thing that, you know,

0:32:390:32:43

-if I could, I would have that. I mean, it's just wonderful.

-Yes.

0:32:430:32:47

-The sad thing is it doesn't have a maker's mark.

-No.

0:32:470:32:51

Any...well, I say any idea of value.

0:32:510:32:53

It's not wildly valuable for its age and its quality.

0:32:530:32:57

Erm, but I think we would put that into auction happily at £100-150.

0:32:570:33:05

Right. That's excellent, yes.

0:33:050:33:06

And we'd put a reserve a little bit lower than that, maybe £90.

0:33:060:33:10

-Yes, yes.

-Are you happy to sell it?

-Absolutely, yes.

0:33:100:33:13

-Your cutlery drawer at home won't be bare?

-It won't be bare, no.

0:33:130:33:16

This is not the Sunday carving knife or anything like that?

0:33:160:33:19

It isn't, no.

0:33:190:33:20

-But thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Yes.

-It's made my day.

0:33:200:33:24

-It's the nicest knife we've ever had on a "Flog It!".

-Oh, fantastic!

0:33:240:33:28

-Now all we need is the nicest spoon to go with it.

-Yes.

0:33:280:33:31

-Thanks so much for bringing it in.

-Thank you, Michael. Thank you.

0:33:310:33:35

And Michael has seen a fair few, so, praise indeed.

0:33:350:33:38

Now, Mark seems impressed with our last item.

0:33:390:33:41

Mary, what a grand mantle clock you've brought in to show us.

0:33:430:33:46

Has it got much history in your family?

0:33:460:33:48

Yes, it's been in my family

0:33:480:33:50

and on the mantelpiece in the drawing room for over 70 years.

0:33:500:33:55

-And it belonged to your parents?

-Yes.

0:33:550:33:57

Well, it's quite an interesting piece.

0:33:570:33:59

-First thing to notice, of course, it's missing a dome.

-Of course, yes.

0:33:590:34:04

We have tried to get a dome for it in the past

0:34:040:34:06

-but we've never been fortunate.

-No, it's quite a large one actually.

0:34:060:34:10

-It's got to really come right up.

-Yes.

0:34:100:34:13

-And it's so typically from one country, France.

-Yes.

0:34:130:34:17

It's such a French-looking object and it's late 19th century,

0:34:170:34:21

around about 1890, that sort of date.

0:34:210:34:24

And it's very typically French, with these,

0:34:240:34:27

what we generally refer to as Sevres style panels.

0:34:270:34:31

These panels wouldn't have been produced in Sevres,

0:34:310:34:34

they would've been produced in one of the other Paris factories.

0:34:340:34:38

And then, various scenes.

0:34:380:34:39

This one, we've got a gallant and his companion here.

0:34:390:34:43

-Then, you've got some trophies and scrolls at the bottom.

-Yes.

0:34:430:34:48

The metal, I think, is probably bronze, which has been gilded,

0:34:480:34:51

which sometimes is referred to as ormolu.

0:34:510:34:53

-Ormolu, yes. I realise that, yes.

-And it's a great looking thing.

0:34:530:34:57

You've got the little Cupid as well, looking down,

0:34:570:34:59

holding his flame of love there.

0:34:590:35:02

And you've got nice little heads here, which are swans heads.

0:35:020:35:06

It's all very romanticised, isn't it?

0:35:060:35:08

It is, it's a very romantic clock.

0:35:080:35:10

We're missing two other pieces.

0:35:100:35:12

This would have been part of a clock garniture.

0:35:120:35:14

So, it would have had two vases that stood, or urns,

0:35:140:35:18

that stood either side of it. But it's a charming looking object.

0:35:180:35:22

The Chinese find these items rather appealing now because they're

0:35:220:35:26

terribly European and they're very...

0:35:260:35:29

How can I say it politely?

0:35:290:35:31

-They're quite blingy to look at, you know what I mean?

-Yes.

0:35:310:35:34

There's a lot going on and you get a lot for your money, really.

0:35:340:35:37

-Yes, it's very decorative.

-Very, very decorative, actually.

0:35:370:35:41

-Have you ever had it valued before?

-No.

0:35:410:35:44

Well, I think we've got to be cautious.

0:35:440:35:47

I think a few years ago these were making, you know, £500, £600, £700.

0:35:470:35:52

I think it's a bit less than that now.

0:35:520:35:55

I think if we were being sensible, we would probably put,

0:35:550:35:58

-sort of, £200-300 on there.

-Oh, really?

0:35:580:36:01

But it might well make a bit more than that.

0:36:010:36:03

Would you put it in for sale at that?

0:36:030:36:05

-Yes, because it has to go.

-You're downsizing, are you?

0:36:060:36:10

Well, I've got all my mother's possessions and this is starting.

0:36:100:36:15

-Oh, this is the start of the process.

-This is the start, yes.

0:36:150:36:18

And so, I was hoping for more than that but if that is what it is

0:36:180:36:23

in this day and age, that's all you can get, isn't it?

0:36:230:36:26

-That's right. It's like everything we sell.

-You have to be realistic.

0:36:260:36:29

I mean, whether we're selling houses or cars,

0:36:290:36:31

-it's worth what that market is at the time.

-At the time, yes.

0:36:310:36:35

Thank you so much for bringing it in.

0:36:350:36:37

It's been a pleasure and I shall be sorry to see the space

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-but it has to go.

-Has to go. You have to get through those other boxes.

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Yes. Thank you.

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Well, Mary's loss will be someone else's gain with this dramatic piece.

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Well, there you are, that's it.

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Our experts have now made their final choice.

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We've found our last three items to take off to auction.

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So, it's time to say goodbye to Southwell Minster

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and this magnificent crowd.

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Look at this, a sea of faces,

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as we head off to the sale room for the last time.

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And here's a quite recap of what we're taking with us.

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Dawn's classic watch might afford her that holiday abroad she's been hoping for.

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There's the intricately decorated 17th century knife of Jackie's, found in a junk shop.

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But will the lack of maker's mark keep the collectors at bay?

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And the Sevres-style clock that puts the ornate in ornament.

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We're back at the saleroom for our final three lots.

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Getting into gear right now.

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One of the first sports watches to go under the hammer.

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It belongs to Dawn, it's a Cartier. Great name.

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-Bit of a bloke's toy, this. It really is, isn't it?

-Very nice thing.

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I said to Mark, "What sort of watch are you wearing?"

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Because I like big, chunky watches. Come on, Mark, show us.

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-I'm not wearing a watch.

-So I said, "How do you tell the time?"

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-Listen to this.

-I use my mobile phone.

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-It's true, a lot of people use it. It's there, isn't it?

-It is.

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And it's more accurate than a watch. Fingers crossed we get £800-1,200.

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Yes, it's a nice-looking thing and as you say, the name is good.

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We're going to find out right now because this is our lot. Good luck.

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This is where it gets exciting, anything could happen.

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Here we go.

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The Cartier Stainless Steel Roadster large wristwatch.

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I'm feeling quite nervous.

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-Me too, I'm not sure about it actually.

-Nor am I.

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Is bid at 500. And 50. 600. 650. 700. 700, I am bid.

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Well, we've got the reserve.

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-750 over here.

-Oh, we're over the reserve now.

-800. 850. 900.

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That's it, that's good. We're there.

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-1,100. 1,200?

-Oh, spot on, Mark.

-At £1,100, the bid is on my left.

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Selling at £1,100.

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The hammer's gone down!

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-Good valuation.

-Thank you.

-I did get a bit worried.

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-There was a sticky start, wasn't there?

-It was, it was.

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-Is this your first auction?

-It is.

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You can see what we say when we say it's a bit of a roller coaster ride of emotions.

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One minute, you're up there enjoying it all, next minute,

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-you think, actually, I'm not. This isn't going to sell.

-We got there.

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How about that? Your first auction and a big sale.

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-I'm pleased with that.

-Well done, well done.

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Well, vintage watches are very collectible.

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So, look in your attic for old watches.

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Dust them off and bring them in.

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Now, let's go back over 300 years for something made with just as much finesse.

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Going under the hammer right now, the oldest thing in the sale today.

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Not just amongst our lots but in the entire sale.

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A bit of William & Mary.

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A wonderful knife, and it belongs to Jackie. Lovely thing.

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I love William & Mary. I love that. That is the golden age of furniture for me.

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It's all about the legs, isn't it?

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-Well, with us, it's all about the handles.

-Yeah, Mr Cutlery Man here.

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I just saw the end of that handle and knew immediately,

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-cannon handled, stiff-leaf engraved, wonderful thing.

-Well, let's find out what the bidders think.

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It's going under the hammer right now, this is it. Good luck.

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William III silver hafted knife.

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£50 asked for it. 50. 50, I am bid at £50. 50 only.

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60 for it. 60. 70. 80.

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80 for you? £70. £70?

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£70, that's nothing!

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It didn't sell.

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I'm pleased it didn't sell at £70, that's real history.

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Well, I've had the knives and forks in the past

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and they've happily made £400-500.

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-Right.

-That's bonkers, isn't it? You can get a bit of 1960s moulded Whitefriars glass

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which sells for £100, £200 and no-one wants a William & Mary knife.

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-It is very specialist.

-Yes, it is.

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-And it's out of context, here, today.

-Right.

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But they're on the internet, people could find these things.

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They could if they're looking. I would've.

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If I'd have been here, I'd have been tapping away,

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-I'd have been tapping away at £150. But, another day.

-Yes.

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You know that's quality and you know that's got a lot of age to it.

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-That's a proper antique.

-It is.

-Yep. Good luck.

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And we were so pleased just to have seen it.

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And on another day, another sale for Jackie, it might do well.

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Now, it's time for our final lot.

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Going under the hammer right now, Mary's French mantle clock

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and Mark Stacey is our expert.

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-Since the valuation day, I mean, that's a showy piece.

-Oh, it is.

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-You brought that from home. You must have missed that over the last four weeks.

-I have.

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It's really been part of my life.

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-Yeah, there's a big hole to fill now.

-Yes, yes.

-What's in its place?

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-I put a lustre.

-Oh, right, OK.

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-So, it was very nice to fill it up with a clear lustre.

-OK.

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Well, look, good luck with that and good luck, Mark.

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£200-300, that's what we want. It's going under the hammer right now.

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French ormolu mantle clock insert

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with Sevres style, porcelain panels and £120 I'm bid.

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120, for this clock. 130, 140, 150, 160, 170, 180, 190.

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-200, 220, 250.

-We're in.

-280, 300.

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320? £300 in the doorway.

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-£300!

-320 for it now. 320 online.

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-320 online.

-380, 400, 420, 420, 450.

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480, 500, 550, 550, 550, 600.

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That's £600. 650, 700, 750.

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-Oh, Mary!

-That's wonderful.

-You don't miss it now.

-No.

-£700!

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-£700!

-I can tell my sister now.

-Hey, hey...

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£750, I sell online.

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Yes! £750!

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That is a fantastic result. Mary, you've got to be happy.

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-Yes, extremely happy.

-She's missed it as well.

-I don't mind the space on the mantelpiece now.

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Not now you've got the money.

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It's incredibly hard to value. It's not an exact science, putting a value on an antique, is it?

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-It's not. I thought they were out of fashion.

-What a surprise.

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That's what auctions are all about

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and I hope you've enjoyed today's show.

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-What a way to end as well, we've thoroughly enjoyed ourselves.

-Yes.

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See you next time in another saleroom in another town.

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Until then, it's goodbye from all of us here in Nottingham.

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