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Today, "Flog It!" is literally on top of the world

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in a unique location.

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This is Margam Country Park, just outside of Port Talbot,

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and it's been inhabited for over 4,000 years.

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It's literally brimming with history.

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This is where the ancient collides with the modern.

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More about that later on in the programme,

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so stay tuned and welcome to Flog It!

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For today's valuation day,

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we've travelled over the impressive Severn Bridge,

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and along the M4 to South Wales.

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Arriving at Margam Country Park, near Port Talbot.

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Here, our ancestors ancient and modern have left their mark.

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There are the remains of an impressive medieval monastery.

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This Georgian Orangery is the longest in Britain,

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and just up the hill is a remarkable Victorian Gothic castle.

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All of this lies in the shadow of a symbol of our modern

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industrial heritage - the Port Talbot steelworks.

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They each have one thing in common - they are big, bold and ambitious.

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Well, our crowds have already started to gather outside

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the magnificent Orangery.

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We may not find something that is 4,000 years old,

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but hopefully, carefully wrapped up in all these bags and boxes,

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there's some intriguing treasures for our experts to muse over.

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And if our owners are tempted by a favourable valuation,

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what are you going to do?

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-ALL:

-Flog it!

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We have a pair of dynamic and stylish experts to carry out

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today's valuations. Mark Stacey...

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-That's really nice. Do you know what it is?

-A flowerpot.

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LAUGHTER

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..and Charles Hanson.

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-Did you get dressed in the dark?

-I thought, we're beside the seaside.

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-I love the jacket.

-Well, I think it goes. Doesn't it go well together?

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You need new glasses. You need new glasses.

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Get out of here.

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And if our location bares all the hallmarks of

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imagination, ambition and ingenuity,

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then that's exactly what it takes to film one of our shows.

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Our team of cameramen, researchers and stewards

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are making sure everyone is where they need to be

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and that we capture everything.

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And they are all keen to get started.

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And while they're getting ready,

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let's see what's coming up on today's show.

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Charles meets someone who drives a hard bargain.

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She wanted £3.

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-And you negotiated?

-I did. Yeah.

-I like his style.

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And Mark has a shock at the auction.

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-1,300.

-When is it going to stop, Paul?

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Well, I don't think he is. Would you like a seat?

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Well, I've really been looking forward to this one.

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And we couldn't come to Wales without bringing a Welsh expert.

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So here he is. Our very own Welsh boy, Mark Stacey.

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John...this has got to be one of the nicest sugar casters I've seen

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for a very long time.

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-It's beautiful, isn't it?

-It's an object of beauty.

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-Have you had it long?

-50 years.

-Really? Where did you get it from?

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-Bought it in a house sale.

-Did you? Locally?

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-Yes, Cardiff.

-Did you used to go round a lot of house sales for

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-things like that?

-Oh, I did. We worked for an auctioneer for

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-many years.

-Oh, did you? Were you an auctioneer yourself?

-No.

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What did you do in the company?

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-Transport man.

-Oh, did you?

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Well, you've obviously had an eye on you for the odd gem.

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-Yes.

-Didn't you?

-Yeah.

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Do you know much about it?

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No, it was just with the other objects.

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And I was there and I thought, "Oh, that's nice."

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-Silver?

-It is silver.

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It's hallmarked. Fully hallmarked.

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We have a nice, clear set of hallmarks here.

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And a maker's mark, as well. Hallmarked in Birmingham.

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-Birmingham.

-In 1919.

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Oh, before I was born.

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And it's by Blanckensee & Son.

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And it's a really handsome thing.

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If you look at the design of it,

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you could almost be mistaken that it was 18th century,

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because it has a really classical design do it.

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From this little flame, pineapple finial,

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down to the sort of husk bands here and those lovely

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classical swags.

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And these extraordinary little appliques on the side there.

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-Yep.

-And this very nice baluster shape.

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It's silver gilt. It's really very, very good quality.

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I can see you haven't used it because it needs a bit of a clean,

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-doesn't it?

-Yep.

-So you've had it for 50 years, you've never used it?

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-No.

-And it just sits in a drawer?

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-In a cabinet.

-Does it?

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-It's time for it to go.

-Well, yeah.

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How much do you think it's worth?

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-150?

-You know your stuff, don't you?

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You know your stuff. I think we should put the estimate at

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100 to 150, if that's OK with you?

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-Yeah.

-And it's almost the perfect weather today for it, isn't it?

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-If we had some strawberries and cream.

-Oh, Wimbledon.

-Wimbledon.

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-Hey!

-We could actually sprinkle our sugar on there and we'd be away,

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-wouldn't we?

-Wahey.

-Well, I love it and I think it will do very well.

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And we'll put a reserve of £100 on it,

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and we might sprinkle some success for you.

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HE LAUGHS

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Hopefully, there will be someone with a sweet tooth at

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the auction. But, not to be outdone,

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a very dapper-looking Charles Hanson has found someone with an equally

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colourful outfit.

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-Albert.

-Yeah.

-You're a stylish man.

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And you brought in this interesting object here.

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-Tell me how you acquired it.

-Car boot sale.

-car boot?

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-Yeah, local car boot sale, in Swansea.

-Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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-£2.

-£2? It's wonderful what you can still find on this great antiques

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trail. And for £2 you've bought something which is very much in now.

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It wasn't 20 years ago,

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but it is today very reflective of changing tastes.

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-OK.

-And the new collectors, the iconic, shall we say,

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cleansed homes, who want minimal, this is what they want to buy.

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-OK.

-It cost you £2?

-£2, yeah.

-I can't believe this.

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What we've got here is something, Albert, that's quite cutting edge.

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An object which represents an industry on the island of Murano.

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-OK?

-OK.

-This is a Venetian glass ornament that reflects centuries of

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-style and design...

-Right.

-..which came together in the 1960s.

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OK? And what I love about this

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is you've got an angel here,

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on angelfish.

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-Right, yep.

-Which really is so evocative of innovation.

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You've got aventurine, which is this gilt-speckled glass.

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And the Italians in the 16th century developed a technique

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called facon de Venise, which is a type of opaque,

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white design we saw in wine glasses, on the stems.

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And here you've got this in the fins of the fish.

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When you saw it for that nominal sum...

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-I thought it was expensive cos she wanted £3.

-LAUGHTER

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-And you negotiated?

-I did. Yeah.

-I like his style.

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That's car boot, you've got to negotiate.

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-Early morning start.

-5:30.

-5:30.

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Something unusual and I liked it because I've got a fish tank at home

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with tropical fish and I had it next to the fish tank.

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So you didn't just buy it...

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-I was going to put it inside the fish tank.

-Really?

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-Yeah, as an ornament. Yeah.

-As an ornament?

-Yeah.

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What I like about this also, is the fact you've got some good

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wear on the base, which to me suggests it's no reproduction.

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-It is 1960s.

-Yep.

-But what you've got is an object which really rides

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high in terms of technical abilities.

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And, almost like Troika, it was off the radar 20 years ago

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and could have been bought cheaply.

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How recently did you buy this?

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-Erm... Four months ago.

-You didn't?

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-Yeah.

-It just shows what's lurking in the deep at a car boot sale.

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-Yeah.

-I'd be happy to put this into a sale for you,

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with a guide price of between £70 and £100.

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-Very good.

-Does that meet your approval?

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-Definitely.

-Is there investment potential for auction?

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-Yeah, more auction money.

-Excellent. Thanks so much. Wonderful object.

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-Thank you.

-A delight to see you today.

-Thank you very much.

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Our experts are hard at work and while they continue

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to uncover those gems, there is something I want to show you.

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Well, you couldn't fail to notice this magnificent backdrop

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behind me here for our valuation day.

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The Orangery. It's considered to be a masterpiece of 18th century

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architecture. Many of Britain's great stately homes

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have orangeries - Blenheim Palace, Chatsworth, Kensington Palace.

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But this is the longest, and it's considered to be

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the finest in the UK.

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Today, the building is used for corporate events and parties,

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and no longer houses exotic plants.

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But the exterior is just as it was when it was built.

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Thomas Mansel Talbot inherited the Margam estate in 1768.

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He wanted a building that would showcase his wealth

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and display his collection of exotic fruits.

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His limes, oranges and lemons.

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The building was completed in 1790 and it took seven years to create.

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It's 327ft long and there are 27 of these huge, tall windows

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to let in as much light as possible.

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I absolutely love this building. It's simply understated.

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It's elegant, yet there is just enough detail

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to keep it interesting.

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Now, I wonder if our experts have found anything

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as interesting as this at the valuation tables.

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Let's now join up with them.

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I think Mark has found something that would look right at home

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in the orangery.

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Mary... Why have you brought this jug in to show us?

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Well, the jug belonged to my grandmother

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and I must admit, I'm not that keen on it, if I'm honest.

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-You don't like it?

-No.

-Is it too brash for you?

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-I think so, yeah.

-Well, it is quite bold, isn't it?

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-Mmm.

-I mean, there's no prizes, I'm afraid,

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for guessing who produced this jug.

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Of course, it's faithful Clarice Cliff.

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I actually really like it.

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I think it's a great shape and it's a really, really bold pattern.

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You can really see these thick oranges and reds.

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And as a Clarice Cliff collector, that's what they want to see.

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And this ground is quite interesting.

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This sort of mottled-brown ground.

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It's known as cafe au lait.

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It's probably made maybe around 1928-1934, something like that.

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So it's right in the middle of that Art Deco period.

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There is a slight flaw to it that I've noticed while we're filming.

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There's a slight hairline crack on the interior.

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But I don't think that will worry us too much, to be honest with you.

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I think we should keep the estimate reasonable,

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particularly with our slight hairline crack.

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So if we put £80-£100 on it.

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And we'll pop the reserve, say, at 60, just to protect it.

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-Would that be OK with you?

-I think it's lovely.

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Gosh, I didn't think you'd say that.

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LAUGHTER

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This pot has probably never seen the light of day in the last 20 years.

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-Has it not?

-It's been locked away in a cupboard.

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Oh, well, that's great.

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-You've brought it out for the world to see.

-Great, yeah.

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And that's fantastic, because we'll put it into auction

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and somebody who buys this is going to love it,

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because you clearly hate it.

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It's true.

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Well, look. All I can say is thank you, Mary, for bringing it in.

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You've been such a good sport.

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-Right, good.

-I'll look forward to seeing you into the auction.

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-Me too.

-You might get a surprise.

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And here's another interesting item.

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And it looks like Charles is in the mood for a holiday.

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Sometimes, to me, a happy holiday is finding something that just has that

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within its make-up. And these badges have that, don't they?

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-Tell me about them.

-Yes, well, I was a Butlin's Redcoat in 1967.

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I collected a few badges on the way

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and at the end of the season I had 96 different ones.

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So, back in the '60s, you were a Redcoat at Minehead.

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I'd always dance.

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And I did magic, so put that down on my form, and they said start May 21.

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And these badges are part of your story.

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And it's a lovely collection.

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I can see Skegness Butlin's.

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There's only one of Blackpool, which is very rare.

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And then we've got three Christmas ones.

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And then we've got Scottish ones

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and Eire, Ireland.

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When was the golden age for Butlin's?

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'60s, early '70s.

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But then people started feeling they had jobs, they had a car,

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they had the money and in came the foreign holiday and then...

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I always think I'd make a good Redcoat.

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-You could do, yes.

-Would I pass?

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-You would have no bother!

-Definitely.

-Thanks a lot, yeah.

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-Thanks a lot. And that wasn't preprepared, was it?

-No.

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Thanks a lot.

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There's another badge here

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which was a benefit of a second week at Butlin's. I mean, what a luxury.

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How many badges are here?

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There's 96 different ones.

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96. My value with a view to auction would be between £50 and £80.

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-Is that OK with you?

-Yes, fine.

-Fantastic.

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I think we'd put a reserve on of maybe, say £40,

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just to protect them, and hopefully we'll see a good sale.

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Richard Burton was a man with a magnetic charm

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who lived a jet-set lifestyle.

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He became famous as Hollywood's most highly-paid actor

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and infamous for his weakness for alcohol and women.

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But his roots lie in a humble village in South Wales,

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more used to producing coal miners than movie stars - Pontrhydyfen.

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I have loved Richard Burton as an actor

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ever since I can remember.

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It's that distinctive voice, it was like velvet.

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The characterful face and the intelligence.

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For me, it was the complete package.

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No other actor could ever get anywhere near him.

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And I've never been here before to Pontrhydyfen,

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so coming here is really special

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because I want to know how he got from here

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to becoming a world-famous star and what this place meant to him.

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I've turned to the BBC archives

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to see what Richard Burton himself had to say.

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I really don't know what to say about my race.

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I'm so proud of them and I love the Welsh with a passion

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that's almost idolatrous,

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but particularly the South Welsh are the people I know best

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and particularly the mining class.

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His story began here.

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He was born Richard Jenkins and he was born in this house

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on 10 November in 1925.

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He was the 12th child of Dic and Edith Jenkins.

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Sadly, when he was two years old,

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his mother died shortly after giving birth to her 13th child.

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He went to live with his sister, who was known as Cis.

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I still think of her as a mumma

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because I don't remember any other mumma.

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I stayed with her for the next 11 to 12 years.

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His family struggled for money

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and Richard was determined to change his life.

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He found a mentor at secondary school,

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drama teacher Philip Burton,

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and declared his intention to become an actor.

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His voice was dreadful at the time and his speech,

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he spoke Welsh at home.

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He spoke Welsh at home

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and he spoke English with a very strong Welsh accent.

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So, he said to me, "Change them."

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Philip Burton gave Richard elocution lessons

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to hone the voice that was to become world-famous.

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I was submitted to the most ferocious discipline

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because I did my schoolwork during the day,

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and at four o'clock, I then started with Burton.

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That generally went on till ten.

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That student room became a room of terror.

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But the hard work paid off.

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Richard changed his name to Richard Burton

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in honour of his teacher and guardian.

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Armed with that voice, great looks and his acting talent,

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he was spotted by Hollywood.

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His marriage to Elizabeth Taylor sealed his superstardom,

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but he didn't forget his roots.

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He used his new-found wealth to take care of his family,

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using his first big pay cheque to buy a house

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for each of his siblings.

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It's not my profits. I give it away.

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Give it to my family.

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The fact that I was able to take care

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of a certain amount of people has given me some pleasure,

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the fact that I had the power to do it.

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As a child, Richard Burton always used to come to this street

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to visit his sister Hilda,

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and later on in life when he was a huge star, he always returned.

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I've come here today to meet Hilda's daughter Sian,

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who still lives here.

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Hopefully she's in. She's got to be in.

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-She knows I'm coming. Hello!

-Hi, Paul.

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How lovely to meet you.

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-Come on in out of the rain.

-OK.

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I just noticed this photograph is taken in this very room.

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There's Richard leaning against the fireplace like most blokes do.

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You've given the fireplace a bit of a makeover.

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A little bit of a Sian makeover.

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That's it, darling. And that's my mother there.

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Uncle Rich, of course.

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And Cis and Elfed then took Uncle Rich in as a two-year-old.

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Yeah. How important was his family and his need to provide for them?

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Oh, I think it was THE most important thing

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because they'd gone through such poverty, really, growing up

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that when he had money,

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he didn't want them to go without anything in life.

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-Gosh, he's got such a kind nature.

-Yeah.

-Such a kind nature.

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Something very special happened to you when you were 13.

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Tell me about that.

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Well, I don't know if my mother would call it special,

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but I was a very naughty girl.

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And a teen and 20 club opened in Port Talbot

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and I spent most of my school days there rather than in school,

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so I was caught mitching.

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And then Uncle Rich phoned, and he was in London with Elizabeth.

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And mother said, "I can't deal with this child any more.

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"You're going to have to do something with her."

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So, he said, "Put her on a train. Send her up to London."

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So, my punishment was going to London,

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being met at Paddington Station by Gaston, the chauffeur,

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and taking me to The Dorchester Hotel,

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going up to the terraced suite and then going to meet Elizabeth,

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you know, for the first time.

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That's not punishment, is it?

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Not at all. I loved it. But I did start going to school after that.

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THEY LAUGH

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What did this place mean to him?

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Why did he keep coming back throughout his life?

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He did feel a lot of hiraeth, we call it in Welsh -

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a longing for Wales -

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and he used to love just coming into the house and then

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he'd sort of relax and say, "Oh, now we're speaking Welsh," you know.

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-Yes.

-And then with all the family, we only spoke in Welsh with him.

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Burton returned to the village to visit his siblings,

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but also his father, known as Dic Bach,

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a miner less likely to be found at home than in the local pub.

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Richard's father was known as a hard drinker.

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This pub, The Miners Arms, well,

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this place was like a second home to him.

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He was always in here.

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But Richard also had his own drinking issues.

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And there was one period in his life

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where he nearly took things too far,

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when his elder brother Ifor sadly fell and broke his neck

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whilst staying at the Burtons' home in Switzerland.

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Later, he died as a result of his injuries.

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Richard was devastated and the drinking escalated.

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He revealed how serious his drinking became

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after his brother's death on the Michael Parkinson show.

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Well, there was a second or two, I think,

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perhaps about a year ago,

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when I didn't fancy much staying alive.

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Really?

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You contemplated suicide?

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-Oh, no.

-LAUGHTER

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No.

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No, I wouldn't kill myself in the ordinary sense of the word.

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I wouldn't take pills or drugs or anything really in that sense,

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but you can, of course, drink yourself to death.

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-Mm.

-And that's really rather pleasant.

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LAUGHTER

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It's better than falling on a sword.

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There was an awful guilt in Uncle Rich. Ifor was the one.

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He always looked up to Ifor.

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Ifor was always the better rugby player.

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His physique was fantastic and he was really like a father figure.

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Burton lived the glamorous life of an international superstar,

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travelling all over the world,

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constantly photographed and scrutinised,

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yet he always returned to the village.

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No matter how much his life changed, this place didn't.

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But why did he love it so much?

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Quoting James Joyce, he once said,

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"Every man is searching for the place he belongs to."

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ALL SING

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It is, in my case, the place where I came from, which is Pontrhydyfen.

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Richard Burton died in 1984 at the age of 58

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of a cerebral haemorrhage.

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He was buried at his home in Switzerland,

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but his friends and family,

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including his new wife, Sally Burton,

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held a memorial service to pay tribute to him

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in the place he loved so much.

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He's remembered here in the graveyard

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of Jerusalem Chapel.

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And here is the Jenkins family gravestone.

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His mother and father are buried here.

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It's in quite an amazing and poignant spot,

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overlooking all of the village.

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It's a wonderful resting place,

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and it's quite a poignant moment for me as well to see this.

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There's an inscription on it and it's written in Welsh,

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and it reads, "Seren Cymru a'r byd,"

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which translates to,

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"star of Wales, star of the world."

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Now, here's a quick reminder of what we're taking to auction.

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Donald's collection of Butlin's holiday camp badges

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from all over the UK.

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John's elegant sugar caster has been unused for far too long.

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Albert's angelfish was a car boot sale find.

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And the Clarice Cliff jug, love it or hate it,

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that name always attracts attention.

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How will it fare with today's bidders?

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Our auction is just up the road, in Cardiff, a city steeped in history,

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which has undergone a major makeover in recent years.

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Here, old and new, ancient and modern, sit alongside one another.

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The old docks have been revamped,

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and now this area is home to the National Assembly of Wales,

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and the Wales Millennium Centre.

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It's now time to put our experts' valuations to the test,

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and this is where we're doing it - Roger Jones & Company,

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one of the oldest auctioneers in Wales.

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It's a family-run business and they know their stuff.

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I'm going inside to catch up with our owners,

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because I know they're feeling nervous right now.

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You sit tight, it's going to be a good day.

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The sun is shining, everyone's happy.

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Let's get on with our first lot.

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Today's auctioneer is Ben Rogers Jones.

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The commission here today is 15% plus VAT on items under £2,000,

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but less for items over £2,000.

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First up is the sugar caster.

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It's such an elegant thing, surely someone would love this item

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in their home.

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If you want classical style and decoration,

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then look no further than John's sugar caster.

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This is fantastic, isn't it?

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-I mean, it really... It's got style, hasn't it?

-It's wonderful, Paul.

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-It's going to sell.

-It's going to sell, isn't it?

-It's going to sell.

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I saw a lady looking at this and I said,

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"Are you selling or buying today?" She said, "I've come to buy this."

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And I said, "What?" And she pointed at your sugar caster.

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-Oh, that's good. That's good.

-So we'll look out for a lady in the room.

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-Fingers crossed it goes to the lady in the room. OK?

-Yes.

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Here we go, this is it.

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Lovely, quality ballista sugar caster.

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I've got interest in this one as far as 220.

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-£220.

-Straight in!

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-30, 240.

-Maiden bid.

-South Africa. 260, online at 260.

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-270.

-Yes, she's bidding, she's bidding, she's down the front.

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-I'm ever so pleased.

-280. Anybody else now?

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-Oh, she's pulled out, Paul.

-No, no, no. She's bidding again.

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-Oh, she's back in.

-290.

-She's determined to get it, isn't she?

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300. Saudi Arabia, is it? £300 in Saudi Arabia.

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-At £300.

-Saudi Arabia!

-At £300.

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-We've gone global.

-It's gone to the royal family.

-£300.

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-At £300, is everybody done?

-Oh, don't...

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That's gone to Saudi Arabia, £300!

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Oh. Oh!

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That's a brilliant result.

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-You see, it's quality, quality, quality.

-Yeah.

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Sadly, that lady lost it, but do you know what?

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Every auctioneer loves an under-bidder.

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Because you need someone pushing it up!

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What do you always say, Paul?

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-Quality...

-Always sells.

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Well, someone in Saudi Arabia is going to be delighted with that.

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I wonder who it is.

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But what a great start for us.

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Next up is the Murano glass angelfish,

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one of those car boot sale finds we all wish we had spotted.

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Yes, it's that Murano glass.

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It's that paperweight belonging to Albert.

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Were you ever a tropical fish fan? Did you...?

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-Yeah, I have got tropical fish.

-You have? Got any angelfish?

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-Two.

-Oh, you're missing one in a minute

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because this one's going to definitely sell.

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It really is. It's a good hobby, isn't it?

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Watching the fish, as well.

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-It's relaxing.

-Cleaning the tank out.

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-I love it.

-Yeah, I like it as well. It's good. It's good.

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-Well, we like our fish.

-Yeah, yeah. And it's so modern,

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yet it also is the evolution on from Venetian glass.

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-Yes.

-From those years ago. So it's a great lot.

-Yeah.

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It's got today's look, it really has.

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And hopefully, we're going to find a buyer for that right now.

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Good luck. This is it.

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The wonderful Murano glass.

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-Loving this.

-Aquarium paperweight.

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I've got a low bid to start with, but let's see where it takes us.

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It starts at £30. At £30, 40, 50.

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Is there 60? £50, against you now.

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Is there a 60? At £50, 60 in the room.

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Is there 70? At £60, where's 70 now?

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And £60 to my right.

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-In the saleroom itself, at £60.

-That's OK.

-I'm happy.

-Cost you £2.

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-£60, the hammer's gone down.

-I'm happy with that.

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You are, aren't you? That'll get you a lot of fish.

0:26:450:26:47

LAUGHTER

0:26:470:26:49

Yeah, I'm well pleased with that.

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-Yeah, good return on £2.

-Absolutely.

-Yeah.

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Albert's pleased with that result.

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His early morning start at the car boot sale certainly paid off.

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And now it's the turn of that classic "Flog It!" name.

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The Clarice Cliff jug.

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It wouldn't be "Flog It!" without Clarice Cliff,

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and Mark managed to find a bit.

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It was the bright colours. Marie, thank you for bringing it in.

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And you look fabulous today, as well.

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Now, do you like Clarice Cliff?

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-No.

-Do you know, I'm not a big fan of it, actually.

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But, look, some people love it and there's a big market for it still.

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And Mark, you're sort of... You're attracted to this, aren't you?

0:27:230:27:26

I like some patterns. I think that this is nice and bold.

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And I like that cafe au lait glaze.

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And you know what we always say - Clarice never lets us down.

0:27:310:27:34

And I'm sure with a £100 price tag, this one's not going to let us down,

0:27:340:27:37

Marie, at all. It's not, is it?

0:27:370:27:39

-No, of course not.

-You looked a little bit worried then.

0:27:390:27:42

No. I'm not worried at all.

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I think it's going to be... Your expression, top of the estimate.

0:27:430:27:47

Top of the estimate. Here we go.

0:27:470:27:48

It's going under the hammer.

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First off, a couple of items of Clarice Cliff today.

0:27:500:27:53

I've got 60 to start.

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-At 60, is there 70? 80, 90, 100, 10 20, 30.

-It's gone.

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-Oh, oh.

-130. Are you coming in on the phone?

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130 is online. 140.

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140 now, on the phone.

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150... 160 on the telephone.

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On the telephone, anybody in the room?

0:28:100:28:12

160. Fair warning, then.

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£160. The telephone has it, at 160, here it goes...

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-Yes.

-160.

-Whoa!

-Hammer's gone down. Keenly contested.

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-So, lots of people like big fruit.

-They do.

0:28:210:28:24

LAUGHTER

0:28:240:28:27

What a great price, twice Mark's original estimate.

0:28:290:28:32

Next up, the Butlin's badges.

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This is a first on "Flog It!".

0:28:350:28:36

We've never sold a collection, or had a collection,

0:28:360:28:39

of Butlin's badges on this show.

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They belong to Donald, who is right next to me.

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Did you get into collecting badges because you were a Redcoat, then?

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Well, yes.

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I didn't know I had so many until the end of the season

0:28:480:28:51

when I put them together, and they've been in a tin ever since.

0:28:510:28:54

And now you want to sell them. OK.

0:28:540:28:56

They capture a moment.

0:28:560:28:57

They do. Not a lot of money, but here we go.

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This lovely Butlin's... Wonderful collection.

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I'm straight in at £70.

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A bid, sir? Five, I've got £80.

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Five, and 90.

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Five, 100.

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£100. Is there ten?

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110, your bid.

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Before you, 120, 130, 140, 150.

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-£150...

-This is fantastic.

0:29:160:29:18

-Wonderful.

-£150!

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-Yep.

-I won't forget you, sir. At 180.

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-Get that coat back on.

-200. 220.

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£220!

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240, 260. 260.

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At 260 online.

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Just a happy facet of history,

0:29:300:29:32

but the public... The sun's shining on us.

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Yes, and it's still going strong.

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At 280, 280, 300.

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-300.

-Wonderful!

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Is there 20? At £300.

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At £300.

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Yes!

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-£300.

-Well done.

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That was a great price. I mean, there were a lot of badges there.

0:29:470:29:50

And good on you for collecting them. Good on you.

0:29:500:29:54

It's great to see Donald's collection fetch such a good price.

0:29:540:29:57

It's obviously brought back holiday memories for someone.

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So far, so good.

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It's now time to return to our valuation day venue, Margam Park,

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to look for more antiques and treasures to put under the hammer.

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But before that, I want to find out a little bit more about the history

0:30:090:30:12

of the place.

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It's fascinating how history is such a dynamic process.

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What one generation does lays the foundations for those to follow.

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In 1951, Port Talbot earned its place in the history books

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when it opened the largest steelworks in Europe -

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the Abbey Works.

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'And to mark this great day in industrial history,

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'a Welsh dragon, forged in the steel of Margam,

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'was presented to the Chancellor.'

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Ever since, this monument to industrialisation

0:30:430:30:47

has dominated the skyline.

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It was the envy of the world, I think, of the steel-making world.

0:30:490:30:52

Those who wanted to work would have a job,

0:30:520:30:54

that was what it came down to at the end of the day.

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But its presence here has its roots in the Margam estate,

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and the Talbot family.

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When Thomas Mansel Talbot died, the Margam estate was passed to his son,

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Christopher, who was known as CRM Talbot.

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He was only ten years old, but by the time he came of age

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he had romantic ideas for the 34,000-acre estate

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and he set about building this fantastic castle

0:31:160:31:19

in the Gothic revival style.

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Work began in 1830, and it was completed ten years later

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at a cost of over £2 million in today's money.

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He was so rich, he was referred to as the wealthiest commoner in Britain.

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Now, whilst he certainly enjoyed the traditional Victorian pursuits

0:31:360:31:39

of the landed gentry, such as hunting, shooting and fishing

0:31:390:31:43

on his extensive estate, he also embraced

0:31:430:31:45

the exciting and dynamic spirit of the Victorian age -

0:31:450:31:49

the Industrial Revolution.

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And that passion led to what we can see over there.

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The world-famous Port Talbot steelworks.

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Talbot leased his land to collieries, copper and ironworks.

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But he soon realised the key to future success was to improve

0:32:010:32:04

access to the area.

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In 1836, he lobbied for an Act of Parliament to construct a new

0:32:080:32:12

floating dock at Aberavon to import and export materials.

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This is the site of the original dock that was created,

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and as a result of CRM Talbot's support and financial input,

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the town was first given the name Port Talbot in his honour.

0:32:250:32:30

Then, in 1848, he helped to create a railway line

0:32:310:32:35

that connected this region directly to London.

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For the first time, raw materials and goods could be transported

0:32:380:32:43

to Port Talbot by sea and rail.

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In the early 1900s, two new steelworks were built

0:32:450:32:49

near the docks,

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making it one of the most important industrial hubs in Britain.

0:32:500:32:54

But after the Second World War,

0:32:550:32:57

Britain entered a brand-new era of consumerism.

0:32:570:33:00

The steel industry needed to modernise to meet up

0:33:000:33:02

with the demand and Port Talbot was at the very heart of that.

0:33:020:33:06

The Abbey Steelworks that you can see behind me

0:33:060:33:08

became the most ambitious industrial project after the war.

0:33:080:33:12

And it became renowned worldwide as the largest,

0:33:120:33:14

most modern steel plant in Europe.

0:33:140:33:17

In the post-war years, steel was vital for consumer goods,

0:33:190:33:22

cars and ships.

0:33:220:33:24

Port Talbot was seen as the perfect location for this ambitious project.

0:33:240:33:29

Five million tonnes of sand had to be shifted

0:33:290:33:32

to prepare the vast new site.

0:33:320:33:34

It ran to over 3.5 miles, with 75 miles of railway track.

0:33:340:33:39

When it opened, it would produce one million tonnes of steel per year.

0:33:390:33:45

Professor Louise Miskell is an expert in industrial history.

0:33:450:33:49

So how significant was the steelworks here at Port Talbot?

0:33:500:33:53

It was built at a time when Britain had just come out of the war.

0:33:530:33:57

There was a big emphasis on post-war reconstruction

0:33:570:33:59

and steel was probably the most important industry in Britain

0:33:590:34:03

that symbolised the kind of rebuilding of the British economy.

0:34:030:34:06

-Yeah.

-And I think the interesting thing about it

0:34:060:34:08

was that it was built to produce strip steel for the

0:34:080:34:12

automotive industry and for the big, booming consumer appliances.

0:34:120:34:17

So when the steel company in Wales, who ran this works, were

0:34:170:34:20

investigating strip steel, they went to America.

0:34:200:34:22

They looked at the latest technology for strip steel...

0:34:220:34:25

-Sure.

-..that the Americans had developed in the interwar period.

0:34:250:34:29

And they imported it here, so that Britain could produce

0:34:290:34:32

wide strip steel for the car industry,

0:34:320:34:34

for the consumer industry and it became the sort of flagship

0:34:340:34:38

of British post-war reconstruction.

0:34:380:34:40

-It really put Port Talbot on the map in a global sense, I think.

-Yeah.

0:34:400:34:44

The Abbey Works was soon the largest employer in the area,

0:34:440:34:48

with some 18,000 employees at its peak.

0:34:480:34:51

Port Talbot earned the nickname, Eldorado, because it had the most

0:34:510:34:55

highly paid, industrial workers in the country.

0:34:550:34:59

Men like Jeff Lewis, who joined the works aged 15.

0:34:590:35:03

When you were talking about the national average wage at the time,

0:35:030:35:07

I'm talking about, it was £11 a week.

0:35:070:35:09

It was £21, £22 a week in Aberavon,

0:35:090:35:13

which obviously was a big difference.

0:35:130:35:15

But the high wages reflected the dangers

0:35:150:35:18

workers like Peter Richards faced.

0:35:180:35:21

Stinking place with acid fumes, dust, noise.

0:35:210:35:27

As far as fumes were concerned,

0:35:270:35:29

that did cause some concern because your teeth would go black.

0:35:290:35:33

Your lips would go black.

0:35:330:35:35

Sparks flying everywhere, tremendous noise and dust.

0:35:350:35:39

They weren't as health-conscious then as they are now.

0:35:390:35:42

16-year-old apprentice Jim Bevan had a shock on his first day

0:35:420:35:46

when he followed his supervisor onto the gantry.

0:35:460:35:49

I think it was about 90ft high,

0:35:490:35:52

and they were pouring steel down below.

0:35:520:35:54

And all of a sudden you walked onto this central beam and, not thinking,

0:35:540:35:58

I walked after him.

0:35:580:36:00

And I looked down and I dropped on all fours

0:36:000:36:03

and I crawled all the way across.

0:36:030:36:06

It's frightening. If you've never been in that environment before,

0:36:060:36:09

it's very frightening.

0:36:090:36:11

Port Talbot became a boom town during the '50s and '60s.

0:36:120:36:16

There were shops, cinemas,

0:36:160:36:18

and in 1961 the first casino in an industrial town opened its doors.

0:36:180:36:23

'Here, the steelworkers are the best paid in Britain.

0:36:250:36:28

'They live high in a style not normally associated with the Welsh.'

0:36:280:36:31

That was a revelation in enjoyment.

0:36:320:36:35

All the top stars would come to town.

0:36:350:36:37

Les Dawson came here, he started off. Johnny Mathis came here.

0:36:370:36:41

They all came to...to the casino.

0:36:410:36:44

These were all new things which people my age

0:36:440:36:48

had never experienced before.

0:36:480:36:50

Well, at 20 years of age and you've got money in your pocket...

0:36:500:36:54

You know, things are good, aren't they?

0:36:540:36:56

But the boom times didn't last.

0:36:560:36:58

During the '70s and '80s,

0:36:580:37:00

increased competition meant cutbacks and job losses.

0:37:000:37:04

Today, the privately-owned steelworks employs less than

0:37:040:37:07

4,000 people, but it's still the largest steel manufacturing plant

0:37:070:37:12

in Britain.

0:37:120:37:13

For the workers, who were there in its heyday,

0:37:130:37:16

there are happy memories.

0:37:160:37:17

Everything seemed to be happening at the same time.

0:37:170:37:20

It was a great time to be alive, it was a great time to live.

0:37:200:37:22

Our age was right and we had this fantastic workplace on her doorstep.

0:37:220:37:27

-You couldn't go wrong.

-It paid for everything that I've got today.

0:37:270:37:30

Erm... I've had a good standard of living.

0:37:300:37:33

All my life, my family have had a good standard of living.

0:37:330:37:36

I'm very grateful for it.

0:37:360:37:39

My whole life has been in steel, if you like.

0:37:390:37:43

Either fighting for the boys,

0:37:430:37:45

working with them, playing with them.

0:37:450:37:48

You know, I can't say any more. That's my life.

0:37:480:37:51

But what of CRM Talbot at Margam Castle, what is HIS legacy?

0:37:540:37:59

Well, of course, the steelworks that we can see here were all built

0:37:590:38:02

long after he had died.

0:38:020:38:04

But I think the importance of Christopher Rice Mansel Talbot

0:38:040:38:07

is that he really gave Port Talbot momentum,

0:38:070:38:10

because he was responsible for developing lots of the transport

0:38:100:38:14

infrastructure - the roads, the railways -

0:38:140:38:16

that gave Port Talbot its locational advantage over other competitor

0:38:160:38:20

steel-making locations.

0:38:200:38:22

So really, without him starting all that,

0:38:220:38:24

a lot of what you see in modern-day Port Talbot today probably wouldn't

0:38:240:38:28

have existed as soon as it did.

0:38:280:38:30

Today, the steelworks face an uncertain future.

0:38:300:38:33

Whatever lies ahead, CRM Talbot would surely be proud

0:38:330:38:37

of what has been achieved here.

0:38:370:38:39

Back at our valuation day, there are still lots of people

0:38:430:38:45

waiting to get their items valued.

0:38:450:38:48

Our experts have certainly been industrious,

0:38:480:38:51

and now it's over to Charles, who's found something

0:38:510:38:54

that would be right at home in Margam Castle.

0:38:540:38:57

Now, I presume you're a lady of some distinction.

0:38:570:39:01

Well, I'm not sure about that.

0:39:010:39:03

I try to be, but I'm really not sure.

0:39:030:39:05

You look to me a lady of etiquette.

0:39:050:39:08

I don't know what my friends would say about that.

0:39:080:39:10

Oh, and I'm sure that you've used this contraption.

0:39:100:39:14

-I've never used it.

-Oh, Maureen!

0:39:140:39:17

-Where was it found?

-It was found in my aunt's house

0:39:170:39:20

while we were cleaning it out.

0:39:200:39:22

Let's have a look.

0:39:220:39:23

And what we've got here is a very nice late-Victorian

0:39:230:39:28

horn-handled, silver-collared crumb scoop.

0:39:280:39:33

And it really captures the high Victorian.

0:39:330:39:37

And we can tell from this anthemion detail on the terminal here,

0:39:370:39:43

and this nice chased foliate ornament, and the fact,

0:39:430:39:47

you're quite right, it's dirty.

0:39:470:39:49

Yes, it is. I didn't know whether to clean it or not.

0:39:490:39:51

Well, you haven't.

0:39:510:39:53

We can see on the back here,

0:39:530:39:55

we've got the mark for electroplate, so we know it's post-1870

0:39:550:40:01

when electrolysis really replaced Sheffield plate.

0:40:010:40:05

And, of course,

0:40:050:40:06

on this delightful collar here,

0:40:060:40:09

we can see the all-important hallmark.

0:40:090:40:13

And I can see it was made by

0:40:130:40:14

Allen & Darwin, in Sheffield,

0:40:140:40:17

in the year our great Queen Victoria

0:40:170:40:20

celebrated her diamond jubilee.

0:40:200:40:24

What year was that?

0:40:240:40:25

Oh, now you've put me on the spot.

0:40:250:40:28

I've no idea.

0:40:280:40:30

This was made in the year 1897.

0:40:300:40:32

-Oh, there we are.

-So maybe when we celebrated the diamond jubilee

0:40:320:40:37

and served cake and tea, this may have been used

0:40:370:40:40

to clean the crumbs up.

0:40:400:40:41

-And this really reflects high society.

-Lovely.

0:40:410:40:45

It's something which I would put a guide price of between £25 and £30.

0:40:450:40:50

And, with your blessing, we will sell it on the day.

0:40:500:40:53

-Yep.

-I think, to a collector, it represents really good value.

0:40:530:40:58

It's a shame this isn't silver. If this was silver,

0:40:580:41:00

it would be worth more like 150.

0:41:000:41:02

If it makes nearer £40 or £45, I might say one thing.

0:41:020:41:07

-Crumbs.

-Crumbs. Exactly, haven't we done well?

0:41:070:41:11

-We have.

-Here's hoping.

0:41:110:41:13

I have to say, I loved that crumb scoop.

0:41:130:41:16

Now it's the turn of Mark Stacey,

0:41:160:41:18

who's spotted a very intriguing plate.

0:41:180:41:20

David, one of the things I wanted to see in Wales at a "Flog it!"

0:41:210:41:26

is some Welsh porcelain.

0:41:260:41:28

And you've brought a lovely Nantgarw Swansea porcelain plate in.

0:41:280:41:32

-That's right.

-Where did it come from?

0:41:320:41:34

My grandmother had it, I've been told, as a wedding present.

0:41:340:41:38

-Gosh.

-She was working in service.

0:41:380:41:42

-And in about 1900, I believe.

-Right.

0:41:420:41:45

She died, she left it to my uncle.

0:41:450:41:48

He died, and he left it to myself and my son.

0:41:480:41:51

-He said, "Do what you want," you know.

-And you don't collect porcelain yourself?

0:41:510:41:55

No, and it's kept in a box in the attic. And I thought, you know...

0:41:550:41:59

Well, it's a very interesting factory.

0:41:590:42:01

I mean, it was one of the best Regency porcelain manufacturers.

0:42:010:42:05

I mean, the firm itself was set up

0:42:050:42:08

in the early part of the 19th century,

0:42:080:42:09

around about 1813, I think.

0:42:090:42:11

And they pumped a lot of money into producing the most exquisite

0:42:110:42:15

hand-painted porcelain.

0:42:150:42:17

And they employed some of the really top painters at the time,

0:42:170:42:21

particularly with the floral subject -

0:42:210:42:23

William Billingsley, Thomas Pardew, people like that.

0:42:230:42:27

This is a later one. This is from the 1820s period, I think.

0:42:270:42:31

It's a little bit heavier on the moulding.

0:42:310:42:33

-Yeah.

-And you've got this rather sort of candyfloss pink,

0:42:330:42:38

-haven't you?

-Yes.

-As the background with these flowers.

0:42:380:42:40

But the little painting in the centre is quite interesting.

0:42:400:42:44

-This black and white painting.

-Yes.

0:42:440:42:47

-The sad thing about it is its condition.

-Yes. I realise that.

0:42:470:42:51

-When we turn it over, you can see...

-Yes.

0:42:510:42:54

It really is in quite bad condition.

0:42:540:42:59

-But it is marked Nantgarw...

-Yes.

-..which is an interesting thing.

0:42:590:43:02

We've done a little bit of research and we can't come up with anything

0:43:020:43:06

like this. I have seen plates in the past painted in black and white with

0:43:060:43:10

things like the Three Graces, which has sold for a lot of money,

0:43:100:43:13

-but they are from known services...

-Yes.

-..which makes a difference.

0:43:130:43:16

Yes.

0:43:160:43:18

-And you want to sell it?

-Yes.

0:43:180:43:20

-And how much is it worth, do you think?

-Don't know.

0:43:200:43:22

-So you don't know how much it's worth.

-No.

0:43:220:43:24

-And I don't know how much it's worth.

-No, no.

0:43:240:43:26

Because the condition is the key factor.

0:43:260:43:29

Now, it could turn out to be an extremely rare piece,

0:43:290:43:31

painted like this, in which case, collectors will forget the damage

0:43:310:43:35

and just want to own it.

0:43:350:43:37

But I think it is a historical piece and I think we have to reflect

0:43:370:43:41

-some sort of estimate on it.

-Yeah.

-So I would probably say...

0:43:410:43:45

£50 to £70, something like that, because of the condition.

0:43:450:43:47

-Yeah. Yeah.

-And we'll put it into auction and have a go.

0:43:470:43:51

Now, did you want a reserve on it?

0:43:510:43:53

Well, I would... 50 or something?

0:43:530:43:56

..put some sort of reserve, I'll leave that to you.

0:43:560:43:58

Well, shall we put a £40 reserve fixed on it?

0:43:580:44:01

-OK, yeah.

-Just to protect it.

-Yes.

0:44:010:44:02

Now, hopefully, you know, all the collectors will be there.

0:44:020:44:05

It's a piece of local Welsh history.

0:44:050:44:08

-Yeah.

-And that will stand in its favour.

0:44:080:44:11

I thank you for satisfying my quest to find a piece of local

0:44:110:44:14

Nantgarw Swansea porcelain.

0:44:140:44:16

Let's hope it flies in the salesroom.

0:44:160:44:18

Well, thank you very much.

0:44:180:44:20

It's damaged, but it's a great name,

0:44:210:44:23

so fingers crossed it does well at auction.

0:44:230:44:26

While our experts continue,

0:44:260:44:28

I'm heading up the hill to the castle created by CRM Talbot.

0:44:280:44:33

It may look straight out of medieval times,

0:44:340:44:36

but Talbot was a man who embraced the new and inventive spirit

0:44:360:44:39

of the Victorian age.

0:44:390:44:41

One of the inventions which particularly intrigued him was

0:44:420:44:45

described as "painting with light". It was, of course, photography.

0:44:450:44:48

His cousin was William Fox Talbot, the inventor of the

0:44:480:44:51

positive/negative photographic process we still use today.

0:44:510:44:56

But Talbot encouraged other Welsh pioneers of photography

0:44:560:44:59

to come to the Margam estate.

0:44:590:45:01

John Dillwyn Llywelyn was his wife's brother.

0:45:010:45:04

He was a regular visitor here,

0:45:040:45:06

recording the castle grounds and ruins.

0:45:060:45:09

And one of his friends took the first ever recorded daguerreotype

0:45:110:45:14

here in Wales in 1841.

0:45:140:45:17

And this is it. Took on this very spot, standing right here.

0:45:170:45:21

A brand-new invention, this was ground-breaking in its time,

0:45:210:45:24

so here we have a new invention for a new house.

0:45:240:45:27

How about that?

0:45:270:45:29

Time to get back to our experts

0:45:310:45:33

and Charles has discovered a very romantic tale.

0:45:330:45:36

-Stephen and Marjorie.

-Hello.

0:45:370:45:39

-Aren't we in the most gorgeous of backdrops?

-Yes, it's lovely.

-We are.

0:45:390:45:43

And of course, talking about passion, I suppose romance.

0:45:430:45:46

This book has quite a lot to go on

0:45:460:45:49

with regards to your story thus far.

0:45:490:45:52

Yes, we were married in Bath Abbey. This is a book of etchings of Bath.

0:45:520:45:58

-52 years ago.

-Really?

-And this is a book of 24 etchings

0:45:580:46:04

-of various places in Bath...

-Yes.

-..including the abbey.

0:46:040:46:08

And here we are, Etchings Of Bath,

0:46:080:46:10

a series of 24 plates by Fred E Ellison.

0:46:100:46:14

And the next...

0:46:140:46:15

-Oh, I say.

-And this is Bath Abbey, yes.

0:46:150:46:17

Oh, isn't that wonderful?

0:46:170:46:20

Ellison of 1886.

0:46:200:46:21

-Yes.

-And the actual quality of this

0:46:210:46:24

plate etching really is so crisp.

0:46:240:46:27

-Yes.

-Mm.

-Importantly, sadly,

0:46:270:46:30

we often do see them cut out and framed

0:46:300:46:33

and mounted for wall space.

0:46:330:46:36

-Yep.

-And furthermore, they lose their colour and freshness

0:46:360:46:40

because of daylight.

0:46:400:46:41

But what is lovely about these is the fact that they very much

0:46:410:46:46

-have been kept within...

-It's been on a bookshelf.

-Absolutely.

0:46:460:46:49

That will be the Abbey porch.

0:46:490:46:51

-Yes.

-And that's where the photos are taken.

-Wonderful.

0:46:510:46:54

-And the book came a few years after...

-Yes.

-..your marriage.

0:46:540:46:58

It was found in a... I can't remember exactly where.

0:46:580:47:01

In a bookshop or an antiques fair somewhere, I can't remember.

0:47:010:47:04

-But you're still going strong?

-Yes.

-Yes.

-Look at me.

0:47:040:47:08

There we go. So, why is it time to ditch the book?

0:47:080:47:11

Well, you were coming today and we thought, "What can we take?"

0:47:110:47:14

-Yeah.

-And it's time we started ditching a few things.

-Is it?

0:47:140:47:16

-We have a house full, crammed full of...

-Yeah.

-..bits and pieces.

0:47:160:47:20

-Time to declutter, eh? I don't blame you...

-That's what they say.

0:47:200:47:23

..one bit. It's a lovely book and in the market today, it is a book,

0:47:230:47:28

because it is so clean and so "market fresh" with those plates in

0:47:280:47:33

superb condition, I would guide it to fetch between £70 and £100.

0:47:330:47:37

-OK.

-And I'll put a reserve at 70 with perhaps 10% discretion

0:47:370:47:42

to protect it.

0:47:420:47:43

And hopefully, elegant society in Cardiff, via Bath,

0:47:430:47:48

will celebrate what you have achieved in your long happy marriage

0:47:480:47:52

-and buy this book.

-We hope so.

-And we'll all be in heaven.

0:47:520:47:55

-Thank you very much.

-Thanks very much.

0:47:550:47:57

A spot-on valuation by our expert.

0:47:570:48:00

Now let's find our final item of the day.

0:48:000:48:03

Carol, you brought in a wonderful pair of candle sconces.

0:48:030:48:06

I love them. How long have you had them?

0:48:060:48:09

I've had them now 21 years,

0:48:090:48:11

but my husband had them a long time before that.

0:48:110:48:14

Yeah. Are they hanging on the wall in pride of place?

0:48:140:48:16

-No, always been in the case...

-No?!

-..after my husband died in 2003.

0:48:160:48:21

-So, you haven't had them on the wall?

-No.

0:48:210:48:23

-You don't like them?

-They're too heavy.

-Too heavy.

0:48:230:48:25

You know, to put... We only live in a flat.

0:48:250:48:27

-They're quite big.

-Yeah.

0:48:270:48:28

-You need a nice big...

-Big room.

-..entrance or something for them.

0:48:280:48:31

And yet he kept them.

0:48:310:48:32

-He only had a little place, but he had them on the wall.

-Did he?

0:48:320:48:36

I think they're wonderful. I don't think they're terribly old.

0:48:360:48:39

-They probably date to the sort of 1930s, 1950s or something.

-Yeah.

0:48:390:48:44

That's not the point of something like this.

0:48:440:48:46

These are incredibly decorative, and it's lovely to have a pair.

0:48:460:48:50

And people collect owls.

0:48:500:48:52

My mother always used to tell me birds are...

0:48:520:48:55

-Unlucky.

-..unlucky.

-Well, some birds...

0:48:550:48:57

-That's my mother, see.

-No, no, she's right.

0:48:570:49:00

Some people do think birds are unlucky,

0:49:000:49:02

particularly things like peacocks,

0:49:020:49:03

but I think wise old owls are quite lucky.

0:49:030:49:06

-Unusual, aren't they?

-Very unusual.

0:49:060:49:09

Very quirky and you'll go a long way to find another pair of these.

0:49:090:49:13

I'd love to own them, but I can't.

0:49:130:49:16

-No.

-So, you've decided it's time for them to...?

0:49:160:49:18

Yeah, well...

0:49:180:49:20

If he's looking down, he'd be happy to know that they've gone to a home.

0:49:200:49:23

I think they'll go to a very good home,

0:49:230:49:25

and there'll be several people who'll want to buy them.

0:49:250:49:27

Might surprise you, actually.

0:49:270:49:29

I'm going to be conservative because I want them to fly,

0:49:290:49:33

so I think if we put £100, £150 on them for the pair...

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-Fine, yes.

-..and I wouldn't be surprised

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if they get above the top estimate, you know,

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and then you can buy something that you enjoy.

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-I'll buy something in memory of him then.

-Absolutely.

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-Something you can look at and enjoy.

-Yeah.

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-Thank you so much for bringing them in, Carol.

-Thank you.

0:49:490:49:52

Well, that's it.

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Our experts have now found their final items to take off to auction.

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It's good timing as well, as it starts to rain

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and the umbrellas go up.

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It's been a busy, productive day.

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Let's hope it pays off in the saleroom.

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And here's a quick recap of all the items that are going...

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under the hammer.

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Mark loved this pair of unusual owl candle sconces.

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Maureen's silver-plated crumb tray is straight out of a bygone age.

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David's grandmother's Nantgarw plate has been hidden

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in the attic for years.

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And the book of etchings from Bath has a romantic backstory,

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but now it's heading for the auction.

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Back at the saleroom, Ben Rogers Jones is holding the fort

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on the rostrum.

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First to go under the hammer is the crumb scoop.

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We've got that crumb scoop that Charles valued belonging to Maureen.

0:50:460:50:49

-Yeah.

-Did you use this?

-No, I've never used it.

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I lost my aunt in March and cleaning her house out,

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-we found that in a drawer.

-Oh, I see, OK. You found it in a drawer.

0:50:550:50:58

-I could use this today. My kids are messy eaters.

-Yeah.

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It's the height of fashion, all those years ago.

0:51:000:51:03

-It's etiquette.

-We used to use them. Do you use one now?

0:51:030:51:05

We used to... You didn't use one!

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Yeah, well, my grandparents may have done.

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It's just the height of sophistication.

0:51:090:51:11

-Yeah, I know.

-And I say bring back the crumb scoop.

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And you can buy one right here, right now, for £25.

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That's what we need. It's going under the hammer.

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Age of elegance crumb scoop by Allen & Darwin.

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£40, nice item.

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£40, with a Victorian horn handle.

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£40. 20 it starts at, is there 5?

0:51:280:51:31

-Come on.

-Is there 30?

-Silver, silver as well.

-£30.

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Against you in US at £30. 35 in America, is there 40?

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40 in the room. Is there 5?

0:51:380:51:40

5 back in the US. Is there 50? At 45...

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At 45, Stateside, at 45.

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Is everybody done? £45.

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£45!

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£45, well done, Charles.

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Do you know, I find it astonishing that people in the States can buy

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something that big from here in South Wales and get it posted

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-over there - job done.

-Absolutely right.

0:51:570:51:59

Someone in America is going to enjoy that.

0:51:590:52:01

-Yep.

-Better than being in the bottom of the drawer, isn't it?

0:52:010:52:04

Yes, exactly.

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It's not a big price, but it's heading far from home.

0:52:060:52:10

I hope the new owner has a butler.

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Next up, it's the book of 24 etchings.

0:52:120:52:15

Stephen is here, but what has happened to Marjorie?

0:52:150:52:17

Stephen, it's good to see you again. Where is your wife?

0:52:190:52:21

-Well, she's in the background here, waiting.

-Oh, she's here.

0:52:210:52:24

She's spending the money that we're trying to...

0:52:240:52:26

Oh, I see, she's browsing. Hoping to buy something.

0:52:260:52:28

-We've just bought something, actually.

-Good for you.

0:52:280:52:31

Going under the hammer, right now, we've got that book,

0:52:310:52:33

24 etchings of buildings in Bath.

0:52:330:52:35

It's going under the hammer and hopefully we get the top end of

0:52:350:52:38

Charles's estimate.

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361a, I've got 50 to start.

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At £50, is there 5?

0:52:430:52:45

At 50, where's 5 now?

0:52:450:52:47

At 50, 55, 60.

0:52:470:52:50

5. Is there 70 now?

0:52:500:52:51

65 in the cap.

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OK, by the door, 65 out left.

0:52:530:52:55

Is everybody done? At 65, here we go...

0:52:550:52:57

-£65, he sold it.

-Just on discretion.

-Yeah, just on. That's fine.

0:52:570:53:01

-70 was a moderate estimate.

-Yeah.

-That's OK.

-Just got that one away.

0:53:010:53:05

-Yes, thank you very much.

-That's OK.

0:53:050:53:07

Hopefully, it goes towards what your wife's just bought.

0:53:070:53:10

-Yes, nearly.

-Nearly!

0:53:100:53:12

That just sneaked in under the reserve.

0:53:120:53:15

Maybe we're too far from Bath to get a big price.

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But now it's the turn of that striking pair of candle sconces.

0:53:180:53:21

They look really impressive hanging on the wall at the saleroom.

0:53:210:53:25

Carol, I love this next lot.

0:53:250:53:26

We've got the pair of owls going under the hammer.

0:53:260:53:29

The candle sconces, they are fantastic.

0:53:290:53:31

-And I know you fell in love with them.

-I think they're adorable.

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And having a pair as well, Paul.

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-You've got £100 of these.

-Oh, it's nothing.

0:53:360:53:38

It's absolutely nothing. Can we please have £300?

0:53:380:53:41

That's what I would love to think, wouldn't you?

0:53:410:53:43

I'd love them to make that, Paul.

0:53:430:53:45

Good luck. Ready, everyone? Let's watch this. Here we go.

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These lovely owl sconces.

0:53:490:53:52

-Oh.

-A hoot.

-I bet you said that.

-Oh, they are a hoot.

0:53:520:53:55

Straight in I go at £80. At £80. Is there 90? At 90.

0:53:550:54:01

I'm jumping to 400.

0:54:010:54:02

THEY LAUGH Hey, did you hear that?

0:54:020:54:05

-Eh?

-400.

-Never!

-400, yes.

0:54:050:54:09

Where's 20 now? At 400. At £400.

0:54:090:54:11

-Can't believe it.

-Yeah.

-Is there 20?

0:54:110:54:13

Have you all done? This is 400 online, the bid.

0:54:130:54:16

At £400. Everybody done?

0:54:160:54:19

-Yes!

-£400.

-Mark said it.

0:54:210:54:24

-Straight in.

-You said it.

-What did he say?

0:54:240:54:27

Why didn't he say 400 at the valuation?

0:54:270:54:29

No, he said they'd fly off the handle, didn't you?

0:54:290:54:31

-Straight away.

-They would at £100 starting blocks.

0:54:310:54:34

-Well, you've got to tease them in, Paul.

-Just believe it.

0:54:340:54:37

He'd be wishing you two all the best,

0:54:370:54:40

looking down and seeing those owls going to a home.

0:54:400:54:43

-If it wasn't for you coming here...

-Thank you for bringing them.

0:54:430:54:46

..they would've always been in the box.

0:54:460:54:48

Yeah, well, thank you for bringing them, and as Mark said,

0:54:480:54:50

without people like you, without you, we wouldn't have a show.

0:54:500:54:53

If you've got something like that, we would love to flog it.

0:54:530:54:55

Now it's the turn of the Nantgarw plate.

0:54:550:54:57

That's certainly a name that resonates in Wales.

0:54:570:55:01

David, good luck. Fingers crossed. Should be lots of local interest.

0:55:010:55:04

Nantgarw, a great name in Welsh pottery.

0:55:040:55:06

Very good and an unusual pattern. I've never seen it.

0:55:060:55:09

-And it's going under the hammer.

-It is damaged, sadly.

-But...

0:55:090:55:12

I don't think that will hold. I don't think that'll hold the value

0:55:120:55:15

-back.

-It shouldn't.

-We're going to put this to the test. Ready?

-OK.

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The only piece of Nantgarw in the sale.

0:55:180:55:20

I'm straight in, off I go at 110 to start with.

0:55:200:55:24

-110, 20.

-Straight in at 110.

0:55:240:55:27

30, 40, 50. 160, Peter's phone.

0:55:270:55:31

170, David's.

0:55:310:55:32

180, 190...

0:55:320:55:34

200. 220.

0:55:340:55:37

There's three telephone bids on there.

0:55:370:55:39

-260. Peter...

-And what did you put on this, Mark?

0:55:390:55:41

You want to come back with 280? 280.

0:55:410:55:42

-Can you remind us?

-£50 to £70.

-50 to 70.

0:55:420:55:45

300. I'll take 2, won't forget you, David.

0:55:450:55:48

£300. 320, 380.

0:55:480:55:51

David, now, you're too slow. 380 is there. 400?

0:55:510:55:54

-£400.

-400, Catherine.

0:55:540:55:55

420. 440, Catherine.

0:55:550:55:59

These are serious Nantgarw collectors.

0:55:590:56:01

-Yeah, they are.

-460.

0:56:010:56:02

-David.

-It is the greatest name in Welsh pottery, isn't it, really?

0:56:020:56:06

Yeah. It's one of the greatest names in British pottery

0:56:060:56:08

-because it lasted so long.

-Yeah.

0:56:080:56:10

Is there 50? 550, 600.

0:56:100:56:12

650.

0:56:130:56:15

-Mark...

-700.

-700.

-Well, I think I...

0:56:160:56:19

Can you remind us what you said earlier?

0:56:190:56:21

I think they left a nought out of my estimate,

0:56:210:56:23

and that's the problem with the catalogue.

0:56:230:56:25

800, David.

0:56:250:56:26

-That's very good, that's more money I got out of it.

-Love it.

0:56:260:56:29

-1,600.

-£1,600.

-£1,600!

0:56:290:56:34

When's he going to stop, Paul?

0:56:340:56:36

Well, I don't think he is - shall we have a seat?

0:56:360:56:38

2,000. 2,200. 2,400.

0:56:380:56:40

Everybody done? Catherine's phone. Anybody in the room for this one?

0:56:410:56:44

At 2,400, here it goes. At 2,400...

0:56:440:56:48

We sell at 2,400.

0:56:480:56:50

-Grand, grand!

-Thank you so much.

0:56:500:56:52

Gosh, I've got so hot. I've got so hot.

0:56:520:56:54

Thank you for bringing that in, because...

0:56:540:56:57

-What was it again?

-50 to 70.

0:56:570:56:59

THEY LAUGH

0:56:590:57:01

Who'd want to be an expert on THIS show?

0:57:010:57:04

I tell you what, you've got to know your onions,

0:57:040:57:06

but I'm with you on that one.

0:57:060:57:07

I'd have probably said about the same.

0:57:070:57:09

But Nantgarw is such a top name, isn't it?

0:57:090:57:12

That was from an important service, wasn't it?

0:57:120:57:13

-Without a doubt, without a doubt.

-It had to be.

0:57:130:57:16

Good for you for hanging on to it for all that amount of time.

0:57:160:57:19

That's the beauty of auctions and what a way to end today's show.

0:57:190:57:22

It took us all by surprise and hopefully it took YOU by surprise.

0:57:220:57:26

Join us again for many more in the future, but until then,

0:57:260:57:28

it's goodbye from Wales, and what a day we've had.

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