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Today, we're at Margam Country Park, near Port Talbot.

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It is a magnificent location that's a product of centuries of

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style and design

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and today, we're going to be finding out the answer to

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a mystery we first uncovered ten years ago,

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regarding one of Britain's most noted architects.

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More of that later. Welcome to Flog It!

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Margam Country Park in South Wales is a unique location that brings

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together architectural styles, spanning more than 800 years.

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Its Victorian Gothic revival castle looks straight out of

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the imagination of Bram Stoker.

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It was home to CRM Talbot, who gave his name to nearby Port Talbot.

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His father created this stunning orangery,

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regarded as a masterpiece of 18th century architecture.

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Next to it are the remains of a Cistercian abbey, founded in 1147.

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They all sit happily alongside each other and will be

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the backdrop to today's valuations.

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Well, judging by the size of this fantastic crowd,

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we're going to be in for a busy day.

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Who knows what intriguing items are hidden in all of these bags

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and boxes? It's our experts' job to find them.

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This lot are eager to get started, but before we do,

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there's just two important questions - where are you all from?

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-ALL:

-Wales!

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-Of course! What do you want to do? ALL:

-Flog it!

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We've got a couple of very talented experts today.

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They know good design when they see it.

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Mark Stacey is as keen as mustard.

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-I don't know what it is.

-I think it's a vase.

-LAUGHTER

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But Charles Hanson seems to have missed the point of the show.

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Oh, it's some money. I could do with some cash.

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Thanks a lot. Yeah, cheers.

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But not to be outdone, I've found a few gems myself.

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I was thinking it's time for tea. A lovely tea caddy.

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Well, I tell you what, I'll talk to you later on in the programme.

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-Thank you, Paul.

-Right now, get the kettle on.

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Time to get everyone organised and seated.

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The queue is making its way around this beautiful location.

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Our behind-the-scenes experts will be giving valuations all day

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and our production team are busy managing the crowds.

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They're making sure everyone is seen and we capture everything.

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And action!

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And here's just a tease of what's coming up.

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Mark is completely in the dark.

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I'm afraid we can't tell you anything.

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A car boot buy is a once-in-a-lifetime find.

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This is signed by David Livingstone himself.

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Gosh!

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And at Cardiff Castle, I'm in for a shock.

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-This was £30,000.

-HE GASPS

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Well, who knows what we're going to uncover today?

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But there's only one way to find out, as we go straight over

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to Mark Stacey's table to take a closer look at what he's spotted.

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-And it looks pretty good, doesn't it?

-It does indeed.

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He's found a plate with intriguing decoration.

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Marjory, you've brought

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a rather interesting plate,

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-which I spotted in the queue.

-You did.

-What do you know about it?

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Very little.

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Nothing at all really, except that it's quite a wacky plate.

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And I like it.

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-Have you had it a long time?

-We've had it about 20 years.

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-Really?

-Mm-hm.

-Where did you acquire it from?

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Somewhere in Wales, in an antiques shop or an antiques centre.

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It was at a time when I was travelling around Wales

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a lot and I can never resist a good junk shop or an antiques

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centre and I will have bought it somewhere.

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So you love collecting things.

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-Oh, yes. We have a house full of...

-Goodies.

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..junk, that some people would call. Or goodies, yes,

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I like to think.

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Well, I was attracted by it because I know this pattern.

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Well, that's wonderful.

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Now, the pattern is known as the Swan Service and it was

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-created by Meissen in the 1730s and 1740s.

-Really?

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It was made for the director of the company, Count Heinrich von Bruhl,

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and he amassed a service of over 1,000 pieces.

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-Right.

-And after the Second World War, it was split up.

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-And you can find examples in museums.

-Mm-hm.

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-Now, this is not from that original service.

-Right.

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The original service is mainly white,

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-sometimes with a little bit of gilding.

-Mm-hm.

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-But it is embossed with courting swans.

-They're courting, are they?

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-Well, I like to think so.

-They look quite angry!

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Well, I think they do look a bit... Maybe they've had a row!

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Maybe.

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And you've got a heron and little insects as well,

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-which are rather charming.

-Yes, that's sweet.

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Sometimes, they used little insects to cover blemishes because

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the manufacturing of porcelain in the 18th century was extremely

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difficult and extremely expensive.

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So if there was a little bit of a blemish,

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rather than destroy the whole plate, they would cover it with

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a little moth or a beetle or a bug of some sort.

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This is probably French, rather than German.

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It's got a funny little mark on the back here,

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which I don't think means a huge amount.

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Oh, right. I've tried to find it, but failed.

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It was probably made by a company called Samson in Paris,

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in about the 1880s.

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Possibly as a replacement piece for a service.

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-Not as a forgery then?

-No, no.

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Samson produced a lot of copies of early porcelains -

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Worcester, French porcelain, Sevre -

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and it's become collectible in its own right, funnily enough.

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-Now, there are collectors for this sort of thing.

-Mm-hm.

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-But I think we've got to put it in with a sensible estimate.

-Mm-hm.

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I would probably put it in with an estimate of something

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-like £60 to £100.

-Mm-hm.

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And I would hope with the internet that we might get over £100.

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-Are you happy to put it in and give it a try?

-Yes, absolutely. Why not?

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-See if we can find any swan lovers out there.

-Yes!

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-Well done, you, for finding it.

-Thank you.

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I'm sure that those courting swans are going to attract

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attention at the auction.

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But Charles has found something that might be impossible to ignore.

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So, Stephen, we find things in lofts all the time,

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but rarely this size object. This really is something else.

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Yes, found in the attic of my grandparents years ago and it's been

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in my mother's loft now for a long time and I'm clearing that out now.

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Yeah, just amazing.

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And it's something which I suppose has such history from that

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Great War, 1914-18, and my question is, Stephen,

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is how it came to languish in the attic?

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I suspect because my grandfather used to work on the tugs,

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it might have come from a plane that had come down. I'm not sure.

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That's what I think it has come from.

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I think in context, I mean, I'm quite tall, 6ft 1,

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and you see actually how large these propellers are and this must be...

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how tall?

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-9ft?

-9ft, at least.

-Frightening, isn't it?

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And it's just actually quite light,

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but what we've got here is a laminated mahogany propeller,

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made by the Sopwith company in around 1917, 1918.

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The actual propeller itself is a 200hp example.

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We see ones slightly smaller, 100, 150, made by Sopwith, and

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almost 5,000 of these were put together and assembled in Bristol.

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We can see we've got a variety of different numbers on here. Here,

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you've got the 200hp Hispano and then another number and

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lettering down below.

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Remarkably, it's in such good condition.

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And clearly, it's been and it's seen action by the condition and

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the markings upon here.

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Just from this I suppose sort of focal point here, you can

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almost imagine hearing this fly over this amazing landscape, can't you?

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And put into context what it did back in those formative years

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of the Great War.

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What's it worth, Stephen? Any ideas?

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Well, my father was offered something in the region

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of £500 without it even being seen and that could be ten years ago.

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They have made up to £1,000. Some have made 450.

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I feel this one in its condition, it's so good, it's so clean,

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I would go in between £400 and £600.

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And I would protect it with a reserve at £400.

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-Yeah.

-And cross our fingers.

-Yes, that would be OK.

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Hopefully, hold tight, it could take off.

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That is a boy's toy, if ever I saw one. I love it!

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There are crowds of people still eager to get their items

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valued and Mark has found a very baffling object.

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Desmond, you've brought this item in to find out where it was made,

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what sort of object it is and a value, haven't you?

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I'm afraid we can't tell you any of it.

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-Well, we can tell you some of it.

-Right.

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It's a really odd thing, isn't it?

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It's almost certainly, I think, Japanese, made in the Meiji period,

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so somewhere between sort of 1870 and about 1920.

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Where did you get it from?

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Well, I'm carrying this for a friend who is ill and I said,

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"I'll take it down there and they'll be able to find out what it is."

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-And we've failed.

-Mm.

-And how long has your friend had it?

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-About ten years, I think.

-So he hasn't had it long?

-No.

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-He picked it up somewhere.

-London, I think.

-London?

-Mm.

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And when he bought it, did he not ask what it was

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or did he just find it curious?

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-He just liked the look of it.

-Well, I'm with him.

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-I think it's a really quirky item.

-Yes.

-It's odd. We have all looked

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at it and we have tried to do some research and we can't answer

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the question, what on Earth it is. This little section comes out

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of that base, and that base feels as if it might be

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Japanese silver.

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In terms of the... the little device itself,

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it doesn't really open. Someone has tried to force it open,

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but I don't want to do any more than that, cos it doesn't look

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as if it's hinged anywhere.

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You have this three-sail type effect

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on it, with these little circular Japanese mons,

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which are done in gilding.

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In terms of the auction,

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I'm going to keep the estimate low, I'm afraid.

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I would say sort of £50-£80, with a £50 reserve.

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-And let's just see what happens.

-OK.

-Do you think he'd be happy

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-with that?

-Yes.

-You've spoken to him. If we illustrate that online

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and do a description as I've described,

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Japanese Meiji period etc,

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who knows? We might be looking at a real hidden gem.

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Looking forward to that.

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-But for now, it is sayonara from here, isn't it?

-Mm.

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Oh, I didn't know Mark could speak Japanese(!)

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It's always fascinating when an object like that

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comes through our doors.

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We need one more item to take to auction

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and Charles has found a wee pig that is far from home.

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Sharon, I often wonder, what is a Scottish pig doing here in Wales?

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Ah, mystery.

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-I wouldn't know.

-How did you acquire him?

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I bought him in a church fair for £4 about two years ago.

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-Really?

-Bargain!

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-You saw him and you thought, ah, I know.

-Wemyss.

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-Hopefully.

-That magical word.

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The factory began in 1882,

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when Karel Nekola and Robert Heron got together

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and they put this factory together.

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The name was based on the local big family,

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the Wemyss family at the castle.

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By 1930, they had stopped

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and the rights to these pigs had been sold

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to a factory on the south coast.

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So, hello, pig.

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Let's have a look at you.

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What I love about him first of all is, the ears are in good condition.

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There are a few minor little signs of wear on the tips.

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I love what appear to be almost clovers.

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And I look in the crevices to make sure there's a level of wear

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to suggest this pig's been around 125, 130 years.

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And the body is good, but there's no tail!

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-No.

-There's no tail.

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-Sorry about that.

-What happened?

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It was like that when I bought it.

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And just in the crevice down here, you can barely see,

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-have you found it yet?

-My husband found it but I find it hard to see.

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But there is a number as well and it looks like a double-S on the end.

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-Yeah, that is your Wemyss mark.

-Yeah.

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So, in that regard, I'm quite happy it does come from the Fife factory.

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And if I was to date him,

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I would say that your Wemyss pig would date to around 1900-1910

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at the very latest.

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I like him. How much do you like him?

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Well, I like him, but, you know... I'd like to sell him!

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Is it time he goes to a Welsh market?

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Yes, I think so.

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We can ask that question, how much is that pig in the window?

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With our problem, he's without the...

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-Waggly tail! ALL:

-Waggly tail!

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Exactly, I like that a lot, yeah, yeah.

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I think the tail will affect value.

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But even so, he is commercial.

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And my instinct would be between 150 and 250.

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-Right.

-Put the reserve at about £120.

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-Yes.

-Does that figure meet your approval?

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Yes, it's more than £4, so it's fine!

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It just... It just shows, doesn't it, what you can still find?

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But he isn't the one with the...

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-ALL:

-Waggly tail.

-Thank you very much.

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Lovely.

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If anyone spots that missing tail, do let us know.

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Before we head off to auction,

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there's something I would like to show you.

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Since 1948,

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buildings of special interest from all over Wales have been carefully

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taken apart and reassembled on this site near Cardiff.

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Every brick, slate and piece of timber is numbered so it can be

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reconstructed exactly as it was.

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The oldest domestic buildings here date back to the 15th century,

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like this traditional Welsh farmhouse from mid-Wales,

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which gives us a glimpse of how people lived in rural communities

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some 500 years ago.

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But the buildings that I've come to see today give us an insight

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into our industrial past.

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Merthyr Tydfil in South Wales

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was a boom town of the Industrial Revolution.

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In 1800, a new terrace of houses was built at Rhyd-y-Car

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for the town's ironworkers.

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But by the early 1980s, the terrace was derelict and facing demolition.

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The National History Museum stepped in to rescue part of the original

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terrace for a unique project.

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The idea was to use the fabric and interiors of these buildings

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to shed a light on the lives of the people who had lived in them.

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What made this so special was the history spanned almost 200 years,

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from the early 1800s when they were first built, right up to 1985.

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Six houses, numbers 17 to 22, were carefully reconstructed here.

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The interior of each house

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represents a specific year in its history,

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and the first one dates to 1805.

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It has one multipurpose room, a small rear bedroom and one upstairs.

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I like this. I like this place a lot, actually.

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It's got a good feel about it.

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What strikes me about it is, it's very rustic, yet it's in an urban setting.

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So the couple that originally lived here came from the countryside.

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They moved to the area to find employment in the ironworks,

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like many other people.

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So the furniture they brought with them

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was traditional Welsh furniture.

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It's all handcrafted. It's beautiful.

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Now, the fireplace, not only a focal point in this little room,

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but it keeps you warm.

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That's your source of central heating for the whole house.

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You did your cooking on there

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and you boiled up the water to make a cup of tea

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in that massive, great big old iron kettle.

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And if you wanted a bath, well, you had a tin bath.

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That would be hanging up on the outside wall, out back.

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You plonked it down there, filled it up with water,

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heated it up and jumped in it.

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At this time, the windows of the houses didn't open.

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The lack of ventilation meant that disease quickly spread.

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Now, a local newspaper article at the time said

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that the streets were in a state of disgusting filth,

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abounding in fermenting and putrefying substances,

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equally offensive to decency and injurious to public health.

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Now, due to the lack of sanitation, and overcrowding,

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cholera struck in Merthyr Tydfil in 1849.

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Now, sadly, in Rhyd-y-Car Terrace alone, five people died.

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It says here, in the surrounding area,

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884 people also lost their lives.

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The third house in Rhyd-y-Car Terrace

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shows the impact of the Industrial Revolution on people's lives.

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Now, this house dates to 1895 and, as you can see instantly,

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it's completely different.

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It's absolutely full of things.

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This is the Victorian age.

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The era of mass production.

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Industry moving at full tilt.

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And it's the first time

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that working-class people could afford things.

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Not just practical, functional things, but decorative things,

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as you can see here, look.

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Loads of jugs hanging up, polished brasses,

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Staffordshire flatback figures. It's all very, very homely.

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But I'd like to hear about

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the actual people who lived in these houses,

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with the person responsible for the project,

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former director of the museum, Dr Eurwyn William.

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What sort of people lived here?

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Well, the houses were originally built for ironworkers,

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and they were the creme de la creme of the working class, if you like.

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Dangerous occupation but very well paid.

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But from about 1850 to 1860,

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the majority of the men worked in the coal mines.

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So, you know, lower paid,

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so it was a quite difficult lifestyle, I think.

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Now, you've got some photographs

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of people that lived in the original terrace.

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Can you talk me through some of them?

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Yes, surely. These are two sisters, Bessie and Letitia Thomas.

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These are studio photographs from about 1900.

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-So this is 1900?

-This is 1900.

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And they lived next door but one to each other, in the terrace,

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for the whole of their lives.

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Oh, that's lovely! So they looked after each other?

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Yes, Bessie, number 18, Letitia, number 20.

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And here they are again in 1945.

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Oh, look at that!

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This is Bessie, and this is Letitia,

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celebrating the end of the Second World War.

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Bessie, in fact,

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she was one of the last inhabitants of the terrace and she was still

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living here in her 90s, in the 1970s.

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-Oh, how sweet.

-Yes.

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This chap, Tom Davies, from number 17, 9st in weight,

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and he was a professional wrestler and a strongman.

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-Oh, I see!

-Yes, he was professionally known as Saldo.

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My favourite of all the many dozens, perhaps hundreds,

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of photographs we have gathered is this one.

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These are the children of Rhyd-y-Car

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in front of one of the tips which surrounded the terrace.

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That's a lovely group shot.

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This is late Victorian.

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And the donkey is significant,

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because there were so many donkeys used for transport and so on

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in the terrace that, to the rest of the inhabitants of Merthyr,

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Rhyd-y-Car was known as Donkey Town!

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Oh, was it? How sweet!

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Look at all those people together.

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One community, looking after each other.

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Yes.

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By 1955, Britain was rebuilding itself as a modern post-war nation.

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In Merthyr Tydfil, heavy industry was replaced by manufacturing,

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and the terrace reflects this modern era.

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The outdoor shed is now a kitchen with practical, modern furniture,

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which means the sitting room can be used for relaxing and socialising.

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Long gone are the traditional pieces of Welsh furniture, all handcrafted.

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What we have here, mass-produced pieces of furniture.

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Still in oak, but lightened up and softened in style.

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Not so heavy. Here is the fireplace, look.

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Not that pretty.

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No longer the focal point of the sitting room.

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That space now belongs to this, ta-da!

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The TV set. That is the future.

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The final house in the terrace dates to 1985, which isn't that long ago,

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but it really shows how much this community had changed.

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It doesn't look remotely Welsh.

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We're not in Merthyr Tydfil any more.

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This could be anywhere in the UK.

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Look at this. It's full of things you could buy

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on any high street in Britain. We could be in Basildon in Essex.

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Look. Fish and chips on the G Plan furniture.

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My mum and dad had an electric fireplace just like that

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with a couple of bars, and if it was really cold, you put both bars on.

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But there's something rather special in the kitchen I want to show you,

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so come through here.

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Right, here we are.

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The fully fitted kitchen.

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Something we're all familiar with.

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But this is the piece de resistance. This is what I wanted to show you.

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Are you ready for this? Here we go.

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Ta-da! Look at that.

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No longer do you have a bath in the front room in an old tub.

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You can now have a bath in the kitchen!

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So you can sit in there, saying, "Mum?

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"Make us a cup of tea!"

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She hasn't got far to bring it.

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This terrace could've been knocked down and lost for ever.

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I'm so glad it was saved.

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Now, compared to a castle or a magnificent stately home,

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it may seem insignificant and uninteresting,

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but the fabric of these buildings,

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the items inside them and the people who lived here

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all have a fascinating story to tell.

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It goes way beyond this terrace.

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These homes are about the story of all of us.

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What a fantastic place.

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It's exactly the kind of history that fascinates me.

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Here's a quick recap of the four items we're taking to auction.

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The romantic swans service plate is bound to turn heads.

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It's chocks away, with the First World War propeller.

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And the mysterious Japanese box has us all puzzled,

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but will it intrigue those bidders?

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And this decorative Wemyss piggy is heading to market.

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Today's auction is in Cardiff.

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In the past, this was a busy and prosperous port,

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but today, it has become important as a cultural centre.

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Crowds flock to the impressive Millennium Stadium,

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in the heart of the city, to watch Wales play rugby.

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And in the Bay is the striking new Wales Millennium Centre -

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a venue for everything from opera to The X Factor.

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This is where we're putting our valuations to the test,

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Rogers Jones & Co in Wales. It is a family-run business

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and I am pretty sure we are going to get some good results today.

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The auctioneer is just about to start. Everybody is just browsing

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and, hopefully, they are looking at our lots. I am going to catch up

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with our first owner. Let's get on with the action.

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And don't forget, our sellers have to pay commission.

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Today, it is 15% plus VAT

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on items under £2,000.

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But it is less for items over £2,000.

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Ben Rogers Jones is on the rostrum,

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so it's time to get started, with our first lot,

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the decorated swan plate.

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Serving up for you now, we have some porcelain,

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in the form of a dessert plate, belonging to Marjorie.

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-This is a swan plate. Is it a copy of...?

-It is.

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I think it's a copy of the famous Meissen swan service.

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It is a copy of the Meissen swan service.

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That is early 18th century. This is...

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I thought, originally, it was a Samson copy, but the auctioneers

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looked up the mark and it is more like Nymphenburg, which is right.

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-A lot of these copies were made, but it is cracking.

-Beautiful.

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Why are you selling this, Marjorie?

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-Partly because we wanted to come to "Flog It!"...

-Oh, really!

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-..and see you all.

-And you got your arm twisted by Mark!

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And also because it has just sat in a cupboard for many years

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-doing nothing.

-I think, as a starting point,

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-this represents good value for money.

-It is.

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Single plate, single dishes - anything like that, great value

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for money. Good luck. Let's watch this and enjoy it. Here we go.

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Lot 184, probably German.

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I am straight in at £70.

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At £70. Is there 5?

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At 70. Where's 5?

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At 75. 80, now.

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Is there 5? 85. 90 bid.

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At £90. Is there 5? At £90.

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All done now, at 90?

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-This is good.

-Here it goes at 90.

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-£90. We have sold.

-Good.

-Above the estimate.

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Above the estimate. Straight in and straight out.

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-That was really quick!

-No swanning around!

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What a great start. Those loved-up swans have melted someone's heart.

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Next up is a piece of aviation history,

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that First World War propeller,

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which is taking up nine feet on the saleroom wall!

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Well, so far so good. You could say things are flying out of here

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and that is a little clue to what is coming up next.

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Yes, it is chocks away. We have got Stephen's propeller

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going under the hammer. Why are you selling this?

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It is a proper boy's toy!

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-Well, it has been in the loft for so long.

-Oh, Charles!

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-It's amazing.

-It's been in the loft.

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They are very hard to display at home. I have had one.

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Had it dropping vertically down the stairwell

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and it looked really nice as you walked up the stairs, to see it.

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Did you never fancy putting it on a wall or were you not allowed?

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It was just too big.

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-Did the wife like it?

-Erm...no.

-My wife didn't like mine, either!

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ALL LAUGH

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It needs that brave person to walk home and say,

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"Look what I've bought and this is where it's going"!

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That's the difficult bit. This is the easy bit. Let's flog it.

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A Hispano-Suiza aviation propeller. And I have got

0:26:150:26:19

200 and... 280, to start.

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-We need £400.

-Is there 300? At 280. Is there 300 now?

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Are you coming in online?

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300. 320.

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Is there 40? At 320.

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Is there 40 now? At 320.

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Is everybody done? At 320.

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We are grounded.

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At 320. All done now?

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Everybody done?

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-At 320.

-There is so much history.

-No-go, I'm afraid, for that one.

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-I don't believe it.

-It didn't sell.

-I'm sorry.

-It's because,

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do you know why? They are so hard

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-to display at home.

-Presentation.

-It's presentation, yeah.

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In a modern house, it doesn't really work,

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unless you treat it as a piece of sculpture

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on one white wall. It's there. That is the focal point.

0:27:000:27:04

-Oh, well.

-Look, there is another day, OK?

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-There is another day.

-Back in the attic.

0:27:060:27:08

No. Definitely not back in the attic!

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That is very disappointing. These are hard items to sell,

0:27:100:27:14

but it certainly deserves to be on a wall somewhere.

0:27:140:27:18

Next up is the unusual Japanese box.

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Our auctioneer does not know what it is, either, so we are still

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in the dark.

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Des, good luck. Your Japanese box is just about to go under the hammer

0:27:270:27:30

and, do you know what? Nobody can work out what it is,

0:27:300:27:33

what you put in it, what you do with it!

0:27:330:27:35

For years, they have been trying to find out

0:27:350:27:38

-and I don't know what it is.

-No, I don't know.

0:27:380:27:40

-Definitely Meiji period, isn't it?

-It is interesting.

-Very interesting.

0:27:400:27:43

Somebody will know and, hopefully, they have picked up on this

0:27:430:27:48

and they are here to buy it or, at least, online. OK. Good luck.

0:27:480:27:51

It's going under the hammer right now. This is where it gets exciting.

0:27:510:27:55

I'm going to start right at the bottom. It starts with me at 30.

0:27:550:27:59

At 35, 40.

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5. 50. 5, your bid. 55.

0:28:010:28:03

Who's coming in on this now? 60.

0:28:030:28:06

5. 70. 5. 80.

0:28:060:28:10

5. 90.

0:28:100:28:11

5. 100. 10.

0:28:110:28:14

20. 30.

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140. 150.

0:28:160:28:17

-It's like a tennis match.

-It is. Ping-pong, ping-pong.

0:28:170:28:20

160. 170.

0:28:200:28:21

180. 190.

0:28:230:28:25

Have you done, sir?

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190. 200.

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-Is there 10? £200.

-Oh, it is on the internet.

-210.

-210.

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210. All done now.

0:28:330:28:35

210. Here we go...

0:28:350:28:37

210. That's all right, Des, isn't it?

0:28:380:28:40

-Fine.

-Anthony will be pleased with that.

0:28:400:28:43

-He will be pleased with that.

-He's got a big smile on his face.

0:28:430:28:45

That is what it is all about!

0:28:450:28:47

Either someone knows what it is or they simply just like it!

0:28:470:28:51

Now it's the turn of the Wemyss pig.

0:28:510:28:53

No-one has turned up with his tail yet,

0:28:530:28:56

so will that put the bidders off?

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Why are you selling your Wemyss pig?

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It's not that I've gone off it, it's just sort of, you know...

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I'm waiting to build a wall, and the funds will go towards it.

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Right, OK, and that's a really good starting point.

0:29:080:29:10

I tell you what, picking that up for four quid is a bargain,

0:29:100:29:13

-even with a bit of damage. You don't care.

-It's a great find.

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Well, OK, let's try it, shall we, Charles?

0:29:170:29:19

Here we go. This is it.

0:29:190:29:21

This charming Wemyss pig.

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-Bids all over the place, from all over the country.

-Hold tight!

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I'm straight in at £700.

0:29:270:29:30

-Unbelievable!

-Is there 50?

0:29:300:29:33

At 750, at 780, 800 or 9?

0:29:330:29:37

At £800.

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Would you like 50?

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50 on the phone.

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850. 900.

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£900. 950, new phone now.

0:29:440:29:47

-At 950.

-950.

-I can't believe it.

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I can't, actually. Considering the tail is damaged.

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-Would you like 11?

-Very good spot for £4.

0:29:520:29:56

-At £1,100?

-I can't believe that.

0:29:560:29:58

Is there 12 now? At £1,200.

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Why not? What's £100?

0:30:000:30:01

-Yeah, why not?

-£1,300, at £1,300 for the little pig.

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What did you put on this, Charles?

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-It's a lot of money.

-What did you put on it?

-100 to 200.

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Because the condition is wonderful.

0:30:110:30:13

At £1,400, have we all done?

0:30:130:30:15

At £1,400, here it goes.

0:30:150:30:17

I can't believe it.

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I really can't believe it.

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-What did you put on it?

-100 to 200, and it had legs.

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-Literally.

-Amazing.

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What do you think about that?

0:30:280:30:29

-I'm shaking.

-That is fantastic!

-Well done.

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Thank you so much.

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What a fantastic result.

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And a great end to our first visit to the auction.

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It's time for me to take the opportunity

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for a look around the area.

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Cardiff Castle can be found right in the heart of the city.

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Its distinctive Gothic revival architecture

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has made it world-famous.

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But this austere facade conceals one of the most glamorous

0:31:000:31:03

and dramatic interiors in Britain.

0:31:030:31:06

Its exuberant decor blew me away when I first clapped eyes on it

0:31:060:31:09

ten years ago.

0:31:090:31:12

This certainly does have the wow factor.

0:31:120:31:15

It looked straight out of the Middle Ages,

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but was actually created during the mid-1800s.

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It was the product of an important creative partnership -

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Gothic revival architect and designer William Burges

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and the owner of the castle, the third Marquis of Bute.

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Born in 1827, William Burges was a unique creative force

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in the Victorian era.

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Burges was an eccentric character.

0:31:390:31:42

He was just five feet tall, short-sighted, plump,

0:31:420:31:44

very energetic and he remained a bachelor all his life.

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His obsession with the Middle Ages resulted in rooms like this one -

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the Chaucer Room. The space was not designed to be practical.

0:31:520:31:56

It was all about having fun.

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Burges only worked for a handful of affluent clients

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who loved his ornate and extravagant interpretation

0:32:020:32:07

of medieval design. Lord Bute, a wildly rich industrialist,

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had the money and the imagination

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to commission his work for Cardiff Castle.

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But as I discovered, there was more to this story

0:32:170:32:20

than just lavish decoration. William Burges was also commissioned

0:32:200:32:24

to create around 40 pieces of furniture for the castle.

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Now, unfortunately, half those pieces were sold off

0:32:280:32:31

in an auction in 1949 by the Bute family,

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when they handed the castle over to the council.

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So, the hunt was on to find those missing pieces of furniture

0:32:370:32:40

and bring them back home.

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These were unique, handcrafted pieces,

0:32:430:32:45

designed exclusively for Lord Bute. Without them, Burges' vision

0:32:450:32:50

of the castle would not be complete.

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But in 15 years, they had only managed to retrieve four pieces,

0:32:520:32:55

including Lord Bute's elaborate bed.

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When I first visited the castle ten years ago, I met curator

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Matthew Williams, a leading authority on Burges,

0:33:040:33:07

who showed me another piece - a beautiful inlaid table.

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I understand this was sold for a fiver in 1949.

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Isn't it unbelievable? It is one of a pair, actually.

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This one, we think, was sold for a fiver.

0:33:190:33:22

-The other one was sold for £5.10.

-Oh, dear!

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How did you get this one back?

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Well, this was offered to us by a London dealer.

0:33:260:33:29

-So how much did you have to pay for it to get it back?

-£70,000.

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Ouch.

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This wasn't just a difficult task, it was also an expensive one.

0:33:340:33:38

Matthew had photographs of many of the original items of furniture,

0:33:380:33:42

but where were they?

0:33:420:33:44

So, I'm back to meet Matthew to find out if

0:33:450:33:48

he's found any more missing pieces to the jigsaw, and I can't wait.

0:33:480:33:52

-Do we know where the other one is?

-No, we don't...

0:33:540:33:56

There we are ten years ago.

0:33:560:33:57

Aged like a good antique since then, I think, don't you?

0:33:570:34:00

You haven't changed at all. I'll tell you what, it's nice to be back.

0:34:000:34:04

Now, let me pause that for a second. Let's just recap, OK?

0:34:040:34:07

The last time I saw you, you had found four of the missing pieces.

0:34:070:34:11

-That's right, isn't it?

-It is.

0:34:110:34:12

And you were looking out for some occasional tables.

0:34:120:34:15

Well, there were a set of six occasional tables

0:34:150:34:17

that were made for the clock tower,

0:34:170:34:19

in fact we've got a picture of one of them here,

0:34:190:34:22

actually an original picture from 1874 when it was brand-new,

0:34:220:34:25

just finished, but we do have

0:34:250:34:27

a whole trail of where the history of the piece comes from.

0:34:270:34:32

Apart from the original photograph,

0:34:320:34:34

you've got the inventory of the castle from 1931...

0:34:340:34:37

-This is really good.

-..and they're mentioned here,

0:34:370:34:40

"A set of six ebonised tables with ivory inlays to match,"

0:34:400:34:42

£200 as a value.

0:34:420:34:44

And we have a record of actually how much they fetched,

0:34:440:34:48

and it wasn't £200.

0:34:480:34:50

The set of tables, they were all selling to different buyers here -

0:34:500:34:53

two pounds two shillings each.

0:34:530:34:55

Gosh, that's nothing!

0:34:550:34:56

Absolute buttons.

0:34:560:34:58

By the time of the 1949 auction,

0:35:000:35:02

Britain's taste in furniture had radically changed.

0:35:020:35:06

Mass manufacturing meant lighter, more affordable pieces

0:35:060:35:09

for the modern post-war home,

0:35:090:35:11

which is why Burges' furniture sold for next to nothing.

0:35:110:35:15

But today, he's one of the most sought-after names in the world.

0:35:150:35:19

There was another piece of furniture you talked to me about,

0:35:190:35:22

that fire screen.

0:35:220:35:23

-That was a unique piece.

-Yeah.

-That was a real one-off.

0:35:230:35:26

Tables are a set of six, but the fire screen,

0:35:260:35:28

which you can see in this photograph here of the room,

0:35:280:35:31

perhaps in about 1900, that again was sold off.

0:35:310:35:36

We've got a reference to it in the inventories.

0:35:360:35:39

There's a valuation there of it.

0:35:390:35:41

"Threefold ebonised fire screen with stained glass panels, £40."

0:35:410:35:45

But in 1949, same story,

0:35:450:35:47

here it is - "Lot 28, £5."

0:35:470:35:50

-Isn't that depressing?

-Yeah.

0:35:510:35:53

So put me out of my misery, OK?

0:35:530:35:55

What have you found in the last ten years?

0:35:550:35:57

We've found one of the tables.

0:35:570:35:59

-Yeah.

-And a big thrill, we actually found the fire screen as well.

0:35:590:36:02

-Really?

-Yeah.

-So you were teasing me all along, weren't you?

-Yeah, I was.

0:36:020:36:06

Can I see them, please?

0:36:060:36:07

-They are up in the original setting.

-Where they belong.

0:36:070:36:10

Matthew and I are heading to the clock tower,

0:36:110:36:14

which houses the summer smoking room.

0:36:140:36:16

This is arguably the most exquisite room

0:36:160:36:19

created by Burges for Lord Bute.

0:36:190:36:21

It features lavish decoration including the signs of the zodiac

0:36:210:36:25

and a breathtaking dome painted with stars and constellations.

0:36:250:36:30

Wow. The assault on the senses.

0:36:330:36:35

This is exactly how I remembered it.

0:36:350:36:37

You will never forget this room, will you, as long as you live?

0:36:370:36:39

I think it's one of the best 19th-century interiors in Britain.

0:36:390:36:42

And this was his smoking room, so only...

0:36:420:36:44

This was his summer smoking room.

0:36:440:36:47

-Right.

-There's another one downstairs for use in the winter.

0:36:470:36:49

OK, so only his best friends would come up here.

0:36:490:36:52

Just for the privileged few, during those six weeks of the year

0:36:520:36:55

that Lord Bute was here, and they would be smoking exotic cigarettes

0:36:550:37:00

and generally drinking and enjoying themselves, telling dirty stories.

0:37:000:37:05

-And there's the table.

-Yep.

0:37:050:37:07

It's in a bit of a sorry state, isn't it? Where did you find it?

0:37:070:37:10

Well, this is the interesting thing about it -

0:37:100:37:12

it's in its unrestored state still,

0:37:120:37:15

but what's happened to it in those years since 1949

0:37:150:37:19

until it was rediscovered?

0:37:190:37:22

-How much did you pay for that?

-This was £30,000.

0:37:220:37:24

PAUL GASPS

0:37:240:37:25

-In that state?

-Yeah.

0:37:250:37:26

It was discovered in an auction somewhere in Wales

0:37:260:37:29

and recognised by somebody who offered it to us.

0:37:290:37:31

-And you had to have it.

-Well, we did, didn't we?

0:37:310:37:34

£30,000!

0:37:340:37:36

I like it a lot. I like it a lot.

0:37:360:37:38

And the fire screen, that catches the light there.

0:37:380:37:40

The condition is very good.

0:37:400:37:42

This was very much better.

0:37:420:37:43

We were very pleased to find this in this state because again,

0:37:430:37:46

it could have got severely damaged over the years.

0:37:460:37:49

You can see this yellow glass that we've got here -

0:37:490:37:52

Burges has actually included in the design a salamander

0:37:520:37:55

on each circular panel, which is symbolic of renewal through fire,

0:37:550:37:59

-so he's carefully thought it all out.

-Where did you find it?

0:37:590:38:02

This was offered to us by a London dealer.

0:38:020:38:04

He knew it had come from Cardiff Castle

0:38:040:38:07

and so we had to pay 17,000 for it.

0:38:070:38:10

That's not a lot of money compared to that.

0:38:110:38:13

-It was wonderful to have the two pieces back.

-It must be.

0:38:130:38:16

-I can see...

-I get very enthusiastic about this sort of

0:38:160:38:19

thing, but it's getting harder and harder to find it, so I hope

0:38:190:38:22

that with those few missing pieces you're going to help me with.

0:38:220:38:25

I will do, especially at 30 grand a pop.

0:38:250:38:27

The two pieces have finally been returned to their rightful place,

0:38:310:38:34

just as Burges and Lord Bute envisaged.

0:38:340:38:36

So in the last ten years, the castle has managed to find another two

0:38:390:38:43

of the missing pieces of furniture, that makes a grand total of six.

0:38:430:38:47

There are still a lot more pieces out there. Who owns them?

0:38:470:38:49

Where are they?

0:38:490:38:51

But judging by the condition of that small side table,

0:38:510:38:54

I would guess in a damp garage or cellar somewhere.

0:38:540:38:57

One thing is for sure,

0:38:570:38:58

I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for them and I hope you are too.

0:38:580:39:02

Back at Margam Country Park, I wonder if our experts have

0:39:050:39:08

turned up anything as remarkable or rare as a piece by Burges.

0:39:080:39:12

You never quite know what's wrapped up in these bags and packages,

0:39:120:39:16

but it looks like Charles

0:39:160:39:18

has come across a blast from the past at the BBC.

0:39:180:39:21

What an interesting item, Clive and Carol.

0:39:220:39:24

-It's quite scientific, isn't it?

-Well, we don't know what it is.

0:39:240:39:27

That was the fascination,

0:39:270:39:29

to find out really what it is or what it was.

0:39:290:39:32

Yes, I feel as though I should put on a voice,

0:39:320:39:35

-because the BBC...

-Yes.

-This is the BBC.

0:39:350:39:37

-Yes.

-Are you receiving me yet?

-Not yet.

-Over.

0:39:370:39:42

It's a receiver.

0:39:420:39:43

It's a radio receiver.

0:39:430:39:45

If you look on this top section here, Clive,

0:39:450:39:48

you'll see you've got...what it is.

0:39:480:39:52

It's called the Lissenophone Midget.

0:39:520:39:56

-Yes.

-Here's your tuning capacitor, which is in Bakelite.

0:39:560:40:01

You can see on this section here, it says "phones".

0:40:010:40:06

So you would have had an earpiece attached to both of these lacquered

0:40:060:40:12

brass finishes here to pick up and

0:40:120:40:15

-then tune in to BBC Home Service.

-OK.

0:40:150:40:20

OK?

0:40:200:40:21

Here you can see your aerial for A would have been fastened here.

0:40:210:40:26

Your earth wire would have linked into here, to actually allow

0:40:260:40:33

the object to work.

0:40:330:40:36

It's in remarkably nice condition.

0:40:360:40:39

My instinct is, without being too precise on date,

0:40:390:40:43

would be to say it's interwar years. So it could be 1920s, 1930s.

0:40:430:40:49

The finish of it's very, very good.

0:40:490:40:51

You've got this lacquered metal section here,

0:40:510:40:55

on this beautiful mahogany body,

0:40:550:40:58

with a very clean yet slightly worn logo.

0:40:580:41:01

-How did you acquire it?

-Cleaning out the house when my father died.

0:41:010:41:06

It was in the drawer.

0:41:060:41:07

We don't know where he got it from,

0:41:070:41:09

but he and my mother did quite a lot of house sales so he might've

0:41:090:41:13

had a miscellaneous box and this just might have been part of it.

0:41:130:41:17

OK, what's it worth, any idea?

0:41:170:41:19

As it is, give me a fiver for it and you can have it.

0:41:190:41:22

Well, I say, take your fiver,

0:41:220:41:24

-I'm going to guide it between 40 and £60.

-Wow.

0:41:240:41:27

-Lovely.

-I propose a reserve of 20.

0:41:270:41:30

-Lovely.

-40 to 60, let's dial in.

-OK. We're there.

0:41:300:41:34

I'm sure a collector will snap that up.

0:41:340:41:37

Maybe they can get it working again and who knows what they might

0:41:370:41:40

be able to hear out there on the airwaves.

0:41:400:41:44

-RADIO PIP

-'This is the BBC Home and Forces Programme.'

0:41:440:41:47

But now it's my turn as I catch up

0:41:470:41:49

with Chris, who I met in the queue earlier.

0:41:490:41:52

Who owns one of these, then?

0:41:520:41:54

-No-one?

-No.

0:41:540:41:55

Tea caddies are a thing of the past but I tell you what,

0:41:550:41:58

they're a good thing to collect now, they really are.

0:41:580:42:01

-So how did you come across this one?

-A boot sale.

-No?!

-Yes.

-Really?

0:42:010:42:06

-In Port Talbot.

-How long ago?

0:42:060:42:08

-Four weeks.

-I don't believe you. Really?

-Yeah.

0:42:080:42:11

How much did you pay for that?

0:42:110:42:13

-Hopefully lots of money.

-Well, hubby paid £10 for it.

0:42:130:42:17

Ooh, that was a bargain, wasn't it? Wasn't that a bargain?

0:42:170:42:20

This is George III, you know.

0:42:200:42:23

-This is circa 1790.

-Well, I knew it was pretty old.

0:42:230:42:26

This is really nice. It's a tortoiseshell tea caddy.

0:42:280:42:31

Technically, it's not tortoiseshell, it's turtle shell.

0:42:310:42:34

Blonde turtle shell, it's been cleaned up.

0:42:340:42:36

But it's absolutely lovely,

0:42:360:42:38

I like the fact it's got a little domed lid to it.

0:42:380:42:41

If I open this up, two compartments,

0:42:410:42:45

who knows why there's two compartments?

0:42:450:42:47

-Black tea and green tea.

-Yes, good girl.

0:42:470:42:51

Black tea and green tea. Look at that. It's even got its lining.

0:42:510:42:54

That's tinfoil. That's there to keep the tea fresh.

0:42:540:42:58

Incidentally, the word "caddy" comes from the Malay word "kati",

0:42:580:43:02

which is the weight of measure a tea was originally sold in.

0:43:020:43:05

Little cubes, "katis". This is where we get the term "caddy" from.

0:43:050:43:09

I like that. I really do like that.

0:43:090:43:12

It looks like there's been evidence of no feet, which is quite

0:43:120:43:15

interesting because most little caddies have little turned feet.

0:43:150:43:19

Architecturally, it makes them stand better.

0:43:190:43:21

This one looks to me like it's never had any feet.

0:43:210:43:24

-If this was in much better condition and the market was stronger...

-Yes.

0:43:240:43:27

..£400 to £600 any day of the week.

0:43:270:43:30

But the fact that it's turtle shell, there's this Cites issue.

0:43:300:43:35

Anything pre-1947 we can sell from an endangered species,

0:43:350:43:38

but after that you can't. That's the cut-off period.

0:43:380:43:42

People are against ivory and turtle shell nowadays but

0:43:420:43:45

there are collectors out there that will buy this still.

0:43:450:43:48

I like it a lot, it's not the best tortoiseshell caddy I've come

0:43:480:43:52

across, it's got a bit of wire work missing here.

0:43:520:43:54

-There's a bit of damage.

-Yes.

0:43:540:43:56

-But otherwise that silver can be done.

-Yes.

0:43:560:43:58

I think we could put this into auction with a valuation

0:43:580:44:01

of £150 to 250.

0:44:010:44:04

-Not bad for ten quid, is it?

-Brilliant.

0:44:040:44:07

Now she's feeling guilty, aren't you?

0:44:070:44:09

-That you bought it for a tenner.

-Yes, I am.

0:44:090:44:12

A tenner! Wow, Chris really got a good deal there.

0:44:120:44:15

Fingers crossed we can improve on that.

0:44:150:44:18

Charles has spotted a very impressive clock.

0:44:180:44:21

Margaret and Sue, I feel like saying ding-dong.

0:44:220:44:25

-Bell.

-Ding-dong, and what a belle you are, Margaret, and what a handsome clock.

0:44:250:44:31

-Absolutely.

-Whose is it?

0:44:310:44:33

-Mine.

-And you're Mother?

0:44:330:44:35

-Yes.

-Margaret, how many years have you had this clock?

0:44:350:44:38

Oh, gosh, 60, probably 70?

0:44:380:44:41

Yeah. Long time.

0:44:410:44:43

I like it a lot, because we don't often see what we call tavern clocks.

0:44:430:44:47

And if there's ever a clock which is the more commercial today,

0:44:470:44:51

it's the tavern clock.

0:44:510:44:53

-Oh, good.

-I also like this mahogany veneer,

0:44:530:44:57

which is rich and quite deep and well patinated,

0:44:570:45:00

within this really nice cushion moulding.

0:45:000:45:04

And you can see the level of age by the dirt within the crevices.

0:45:040:45:08

It's clearly late 18th or early 19th century.

0:45:080:45:13

OK? What concerned me were these square veneer pegs here.

0:45:130:45:18

To me, it's a country-made tavern clock.

0:45:190:45:21

Because these square pegs here

0:45:210:45:24

actually support the pillar movement within.

0:45:240:45:28

It may have been played with a bit, because, to me,

0:45:280:45:33

these ought not be too obvious on the actual face of the clock.

0:45:330:45:38

Right. Mind you, I think it does give the clock character.

0:45:380:45:41

It gives it a life, yeah.

0:45:410:45:43

What I like is this minute finger, which is weighted -

0:45:430:45:47

that's original,

0:45:470:45:49

and I believe this finger, too, is probably original.

0:45:490:45:52

And of course it's something, Margaret, which, in its heyday,

0:45:520:45:56

with your husband, you had to wind up every day?

0:45:560:45:59

-Every day.

-Yeah. So it's a fairly simple 30-hour single train movement

0:45:590:46:05

and, looking at the movement back here,

0:46:050:46:08

what excites me is these little bobbins to support the train

0:46:080:46:12

are a treen, or a turned wood, rather than being metal, so, to me,

0:46:120:46:17

if I was to date this,

0:46:170:46:19

I would suggest it's circa 1790, as late as 1815.

0:46:190:46:25

And the giveaway to date is this ivory escutcheon.

0:46:270:46:29

That would be about 1810.

0:46:290:46:32

So, I like it. It needs some TLC.

0:46:320:46:35

So I feel, realistically, we ought to put a fixed reserve on at £400,

0:46:350:46:40

and put a guide price on of between £500 and £700.

0:46:400:46:45

And I hope that meets your approval.

0:46:450:46:48

Yes. It needs to go to a good home.

0:46:480:46:51

Yeah. Shall we shake on it?

0:46:510:46:53

And say, five to seven, reserve at four,

0:46:530:46:56

we'll be going, going, gone.

0:46:560:46:58

That's a great item.

0:46:590:47:01

It makes me think about how many people have looked at this clock

0:47:010:47:04

over 200 years, and kept time by it.

0:47:040:47:08

We've still got one more item to find and I think someone

0:47:080:47:11

has uncovered a historic gem.

0:47:110:47:14

Mark Stacey, I presume.

0:47:140:47:16

Edward, now, you've brought a fascinating book in to us.

0:47:160:47:19

Tell us all about it.

0:47:190:47:20

-I acquired it seven years ago in a car-boot sale.

-No!

0:47:200:47:24

I looked down at the floor in a box and there was all these old

0:47:240:47:28

books and this caught my eye.

0:47:280:47:30

And I picked it up, turned a page or two, and I thought, "Ahh!

0:47:300:47:36

-"This is signed by David Livingstone himself."

-Gosh.

-Signed by him!

0:47:360:47:40

-Of "Mr Livingstone, I presume?"

-Yeah, the famous explorer.

-Exactly.

0:47:400:47:44

And if we open it, actually, we can see that we've got -

0:47:440:47:48

who had the book - Captain...

0:47:480:47:50

-Yeah, several people have had the book, yeah.

-..Forbes.

0:47:500:47:52

But then you've got this wonderful handwritten inscription,

0:47:520:47:57

"Major General Charles Murray, May," and then there's a little note

0:47:570:48:02

from him, signed David Livingstone, London, 29th of October 1857.

0:48:020:48:07

-Quite old.

-It is quite old.

0:48:070:48:10

It's amazing, and then as you go through the book there are

0:48:100:48:12

-various lithographic plates.

-Yes.

0:48:120:48:16

And you have the title page as well there.

0:48:160:48:19

And you've done some further research, haven't you?

0:48:190:48:22

Yeah, I found out who the person was, Major General Charles Murray,

0:48:220:48:27

and he was a famous general, went back as far as Waterloo.

0:48:270:48:31

-Gosh, really?

-And then it passed on to another two people since.

-Gosh.

0:48:310:48:36

And these people were just clearing out and hadn't looked at the book,

0:48:360:48:40

-just...

-Didn't look inside, yeah.

0:48:400:48:41

Well, the book was in such a bad state,

0:48:410:48:43

I suppose they didn't think it was worth anything.

0:48:430:48:46

-Do you want to know how much I paid?

-I'd love to know how much you paid.

0:48:460:48:49

Don't tell anybody else.

0:48:490:48:50

-Well, nobody watches the show, so it's fine.

-I paid a pound for it.

0:48:500:48:53

-A pound?

-Yes, a pound.

-A whole Welsh pound.

0:48:530:48:56

What I find fascinating is that I'm handling

0:48:560:48:59

a book that was written by this famous person,

0:48:590:49:03

-who signed it and presented it to another famous person.

-Yes.

0:49:030:49:08

It is good that, as you say, it's not signed to AN Other.

0:49:080:49:12

-Yeah.

-It's signed to a person of note, as well.

0:49:120:49:15

And signed, obviously, by Livingstone.

0:49:150:49:18

It is a difficult thing to value, though.

0:49:180:49:21

Myself, I think we've got to protect it, so I would suggest an

0:49:210:49:24

-estimate of £1,000 at £1,500, to be honest with you.

-Yes, that's OK.

0:49:240:49:28

And we can protect it, of course, with a reserve of £1,000,

0:49:280:49:31

because if it doesn't sell for that you can keep it as an investment.

0:49:310:49:34

Quite happy to keep it, yes.

0:49:340:49:36

So you're ready for our own expedition into the jungle world of the auction.

0:49:360:49:40

Yes, certainly, all the way to Cardiff.

0:49:400:49:43

That's an incredible find, and I've a feeling that's going to

0:49:430:49:47

stir up serious excitement.

0:49:470:49:49

Here's a quick recap of the four items we're taking to auction.

0:49:490:49:53

Clive and Carol's BBC receiver, which they found in a drawer.

0:49:540:49:58

The lovely turtle-shell tea caddy spotted at a car-boot sale.

0:50:000:50:04

It's time, gentlemen, please, for Margaret's tavern clock.

0:50:060:50:09

But the biggest discovery of all, David Livingstone's signed book.

0:50:110:50:16

Back at Rogers Jones & Co,

0:50:170:50:19

Ben is still hard at work on the rostrum,

0:50:190:50:21

but before we start our first lot

0:50:210:50:23

I want to take a look at the David Livingstone book.

0:50:230:50:27

Published in 1857, the book tells of Livingstone's adventures in

0:50:270:50:31

South Africa over a 16-year period.

0:50:310:50:34

Born in Scotland, he was a Christian missionary,

0:50:360:50:38

explorer and anti-slavery campaigner.

0:50:380:50:42

As one of the first Europeans to penetrate the interior of Africa,

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he famously named Victoria Falls and became a hero of the Victorian age.

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I didn't see this at the valuation day, Mark.

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-I know, it's amazing, Paul, isn't it?

-It's fantastic.

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-Some people have all the luck.

-Have you got high hopes for this, Mark?

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Well, we've put £1,000-£1,500,

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but how can you value something like that?

0:51:040:51:06

PAUL INHALES DEEPLY

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This we could have a big surprise with.

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Whatever you do, do not go away.

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I reckon a lot more than what Mark thinks.

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All will be revealed, but first up, it's the BBC receiver.

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I love this next item. It's not a lot of money.

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It's a real curio, it's a little, tiny radio receiver,

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-but it looks like a piece of sculpture.

-Yes.

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-It's got the BBC on it.

-It has, yes.

-Hasn't it?

-Yes.

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I think you're spot-on with the value.

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-Yeah, I hope so. It's a real curio.

-Yeah.

-A real boy's toy.

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-Of course it is.

-Love it.

-Something for the desktop, to play with.

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We're putting this under the hammer right now. Good luck.

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-Thank you.

-This is it.

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The wooden, brass and celluloid radio receiver, bearing BBC crest.

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I'm straight in at £80. Is there 5?

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85. 90 with me. Is there 5?

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-95. 100 bid.

-Clive, this is good. This is very good.

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-Fantastic!

-We never thought.

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-110 in the room.

-One more. It's picking up.

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Out online, OK. 110, it's in the room. Is everybody done?

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-At 110, here we go, at 110.

-Brilliant thing.

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-Hammer's up now.

-It's a brilliant thing.

-Fantastic!

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-Sold!

-110, that sold. I'd love to have owned that as well.

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-It's just...

-Why didn't you say?

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Well, cos we're not allowed to buy things,

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-but I could see that on my desk at home, because it's fun.

-It's lovely.

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Yeah, and it's all about the BBC as well, which is brilliant.

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That was a real gem, and a great result.

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Next it's tea-time, with the stylish Georgian caddy.

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Right, it's my turn to be the expert.

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I fell in love with this, and it belongs to Chris, who's looking very colourful.

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-Fingers crossed for this.

-Oh, yes.

-I think I've pitched this to sell.

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I think this will go, and it's in good company,

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there's two or three other caddies today,

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so hopefully the caddy collectors would have picked this up.

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-Jolly good.

-It's a quality item.

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OK, ready? This is it, it's going under the hammer.

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A wonderful tortoiseshell tea caddy, lot 336.

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-Off I go, 340. At 340, is there 60?

-Hey-hey! High-five.

-Whoa!

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At 360, 380. At £380, is there 400?

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-At 380.

-Yeah, I was a bit cautious about the damage.

-Yes.

-400. 420.

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-Well, it looks as if they've fancied it, yeah.

-Is everybody done?

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At 420, last call, then, at 420, here we go.

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420, that was literally straight in and straight out.

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I think he had two or three commission bids left

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-on the high point there.

-Maybe, yes.

-Up in the high 300s.

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Chris, that's a brilliant result. It was fantastic, wasn't it?

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-Give us a hug.

-Big hug!

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-You're right.

-Well done.

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That's not bad for a £10 investment. What a brilliant result.

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Now it's the tavern clock.

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These were also known as Act of Parliament clocks,

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after a tax levied on clocks by William Pitt,

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the Prime Minister in 1797.

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I've just been joined by Margaret and Susan, mum and daughter,

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and our expert, Charles.

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We're putting that lovely Act of Parliament clock,

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the tavern clock, under the hammer.

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And the value was 500 to 700.

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-Indeed.

-The auctioneer has reduced that value.

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He thinks it was a little bit too high.

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-He's put 400 to 600.

-Indeed.

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With a reserve at 400, still, but you've upped the reserve to 450.

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So it's gone backwards and forwards and backwards and forwards,

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all for the sake of £50, and I'm pretty sure this will sell.

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-I hope so.

-I reckon we'll all be right at the end of the day, don't you?

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-I hope you're right.

-OK, here we go, ding-dong, this is it.

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I've got to start, it starts with me at £300.

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At 320 online, 40, with me, 60, 80, 400, and 20.

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We're going to sell it.

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-Ding-dong.

-440. 460 on the phone.

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-Yes, we've done it!

-480 online.

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-Right, here we go.

-500 on the phone.

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Anybody in the room now?

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550? 600.

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I'm taking two first.

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OK, I won't forget you, sir. 650.

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-700.

-700!

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It's all ticking. It's all ticking.

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800. And 50.

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-Brilliant!

-900.

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-And 50.

-Make it the big one.

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-Yes, £1,000!

-£1,100.

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The phone is out. £1,100.

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Before it goes, then, all done?

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-£1,100.

-£1,100.

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That gavel went down, and that was a sold sound.

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And that's the beauty of an auction.

0:55:120:55:14

-That's why we love them!

-Yes!

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I don't think any of us were expecting that.

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It made more than twice its estimate.

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Next up, that historic book signed by one of the greatest names

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'in Victorian history, David Livingstone.

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'I've been looking forward to this.'

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Well, our next item was bought for just £1 at

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a car-boot sale several years ago, yes, just £1.

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It belongs to Edward. Can you remember the day you bought this?

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Were you excited?

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I didn't get too excited at the time,

0:55:420:55:44

-I had to verify whether it was genuine.

-Yeah.

0:55:440:55:48

-I thought 99% it was, yes.

-And the book's in pretty good condition,

0:55:480:55:51

all the plates are there, there's no pages missing.

0:55:510:55:53

I think this is a... I would totally agree with you, you know,

0:55:530:55:56

we're looking for £1,500, maybe £2,000,

0:55:560:55:59

but this should be in a museum, and if somebody picks up on this

0:55:590:56:02

hopefully we're looking at two to three grand.

0:56:020:56:04

-I don't know, the sky's the limit.

-I don't know, Paul.

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Who doesn't know the expression "Mr Livingstone, I presume"?

0:56:070:56:10

-We all know it, we were brought up at school on these stories.

-We were.

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I mean, it really brought my childhood back,

0:56:140:56:16

that expression, and it really made me tingle when I saw it.

0:56:160:56:18

-Yeah, and it's something you'd love to own.

-Oh, it's wonderful.

0:56:180:56:21

Hopefully we're going to have this roller-coaster ride,

0:56:210:56:24

and it's starting right now.

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This is it.

0:56:260:56:27

Lot 391, what a wonderful item to have in a saleroom,

0:56:280:56:32

it's been a privilege to look after it for a few weeks.

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The volume of Livingstone's Missionary Travels In South Africa,

0:56:340:56:37

with wonderful provenance.

0:56:370:56:39

-I'm straight in at £1,800.

-Ooh! There you go.

-Is there 19 now?

0:56:390:56:43

At 1,800, 1,900,

0:56:430:56:45

£2,000.

0:56:450:56:47

-Paul, you were right.

-It's a lovely item here. At 2.2.

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2.4.

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2,600 online.

0:56:500:56:52

-Ooh, yes!

-2,600. Is there 8 now? At 2,600.

0:56:520:56:56

2,600, 2,700.

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-2,800.

-2,800.

-Are we going to do the 3,000?

-2,900.

0:56:590:57:02

-We will do the 3,000. We will, we've got to.

-£3,000.

0:57:020:57:05

-Yes!

-3,000, and I'm out. At £3,000, it's online.

0:57:050:57:09

At £3,000, is everybody done?

0:57:090:57:11

-£3,000 and here it goes. Hammer's up now.

-£3,000.

-£3,000...

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Oh, I'm tingling.

0:57:150:57:17

Edward, you must be tingling, that's brilliant. £3,000!

0:57:170:57:21

-Thank you, thank you.

-Ahh!

-For a pound investment.

-£1.

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Oh, I'm tingling all over. That is so exciting.

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Thank you for making my day. I hope we've made your day as well.

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Join us again for many more surprises,

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but sadly that is the end of today's show.

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Come and join me, you both deserve it.

0:57:350:57:36

Dr Livingstone, I presume, how about that?

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-Hopefully it's gone to a museum.

-I hope so, yes.

-I hope so as well.

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Join us again next time for many more surprises on "Flog It!"

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