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I'm in the village of Selborne, in Hampshire, which was once home to

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one of Britain's most famous scientists

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that you've probably never heard of.

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Now, that's got your attention, hasn't it?

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Later on in the programme,

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I'll be finding out more about this 18th-century naturalist

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and why that became one of his most important tools.

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Welcome to "Flog It!"

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Hampshire has been a hotbed for scientific

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and technological advancement since the Industrial Revolution.

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It's fitting that the county was the birth place of one

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of our greatest engineers - Isambard Kingdom Brunel.

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It's also the site of the London and South Western Railway

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that took passengers, in the 19th century,

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from London to the important industrial port of Southampton.

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At our valuation day venue here at Basingstoke,

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they've brought the engineering

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achievements of the old Industrial Age alive again

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with a fascinating collection of old vehicles,

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goods and appliances once sold on the Victorian high street.

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We'll be finding out more about the county's scientific

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and engineering endeavours later on in the programme.

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But right now, our crowds - look at them all -

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are advancing towards our experts ready for their valuations -

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this is the scary bit here -

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at Milestones Museum in Basingstoke.

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So, if you're happy with your valuation,

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what are you going to do? ALL: Flog it!

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Our experts are getting stuck in,

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and there's already plenty to catch James Lewis' eye.

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Oh, blimey.

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-Oh, blimey.

-That's old, isn't it? It is old.

-Yeah.

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While Elizabeth Talbot is taking a leisurely approach.

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But not for long.

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Come on, you, don't sit around on the job, we've got work to do.

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Excuse me.

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And I have too. Right, follow me, let's get this show on the road.

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It's through these doors!

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Come on, everyone.

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'As I take the crowds in, let's find out what's on the show today.'

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Elizabeth's got the moon and the stars in her eyes.

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Well, Tim, you've made my eyes sparkle when I saw this.

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But why has Angus got tears in his?

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Well done, well done.

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And which of these objects will get the cash register ringing?

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£1,000.

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£1,000.

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Ching-ching!

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Well, from up here on top of this early-20th-century bus which

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rode the streets of Portsmouth, you get a fantastic bird's-eye view

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of the proceedings going on down there. Just look at it.

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We really are spoiled for choice today.

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Not to mention a fantastic array of vehicles, from bikes to buses,

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and all sorts of internal combustion engines.

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So, let's now hand the proceedings over to our experts,

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and let's see what breakthroughs they can make with their first item.

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And Elizabeth Talbot is joined by Paul,

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who's brought in an amazing-looking contraption.

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Please, tell me all about it.

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Well, I...

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I bought it from a hospital that was closing down for about £25 or

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something. And that was in the early '90s.

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I'm fairly confident it's a piece of anaesthetic equipment.

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But apart from that, I don't know.

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I liked it because, you know, it's an attractive bit of kit, I think.

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I agree. It bears a name - I noticed a Dr Magill's name on the front.

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Yes, right.

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Now, Sir Ivan Whiteside Magill was actually working at the very

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early part of the 20th century.

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He was Irish-born and he was originally a general practitioner.

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-But he then began specialising in anaesthesia...

-Oh.

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-..and anaesthetics.

-Right.

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That was his special area of study.

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And throughout the early part of the 20th century,

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he took the developments of his research quite extensive ways,

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which I think really set us to where we are in modern-day

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-understanding of that subject.

-Oh, gosh. Yeah.

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In 1919, during the First World War,

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he was positioned in the Queens Hotel at Sidcup.

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And he there, at that point,

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met a surgeon, Harold Gillies,

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who was working very hard

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and doing some pioneering work

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on the reconstruction and plastic surgery

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of particularly faces of soldiers who served in the First World War.

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-Right.

-And the two of them became quite a powerhouse together.

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Doctors Magill and Gillies worked to improve the lives

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of soldiers returning from the battlefields of France.

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Over seven years,

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the surgical team conducted an incredible 11,000 operations,

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repairing the horrendous facial injuries of 5,000 men.

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In a way, that would have seemed miraculous at the time.

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And they did it all using instruments like this.

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Interestingly enough,

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Gillies then served in hospitals in Basingstoke.

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So he has a connection locally, which is quite interesting.

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And the work that Magill did over the next few years took him

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to the point where he was eventually knighted.

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And even today, doctors who achieve outstanding work

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in their profession are...can be awarded the Magill Medal.

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-Yeah.

-So you paid £25 for it, did you say?

-About that, yeah.

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It really is going to be the eye of the beholder.

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Anybody who collects medical implements or

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anything that is related to medical history may well

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place on it a value different to what I will estimate.

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-I would think it should sell for between sort of £50 and £80.

-Right.

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-OK.

-Would you be happy with that?

-I would.

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And the money, is that going anywhere in particular?

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Yes, it is. It's going to brain tumour, cancer...

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brain tumour research.

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-I lost a daughter earlier this year from that.

-Oh.

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And so we're finding all ways and means of, you know,

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-putting some money to the charity.

-For fundraising.

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So this would be a very apt way of it going to a good cause.

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It is actually, yes.

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£50 to £80. £50 reserve. Fingers crossed.

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-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Thank you.

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That's most interesting. Thank you.

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A remarkable story about an object

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that changed the fortunes of so many.

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And now James has found a pair of objects that some might think

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a bit staid

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but marked technical innovation in their day.

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Val, I have to say,

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Royal Worcester,

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one of the greatest names in English porcelain manufacturing.

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They are about 1890.

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-Did you know the way of telling the date?

-No, I don't.

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OK, so, grab one of those.

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-You see the purple mark?

-Yes.

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-You see the dots above the R?

-Yes.

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I've got four on this one altogether.

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The first dot was put on in 1892.

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-Oh.

-1892, '93, '94, '95.

-Oh, my God.

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-These are 1895.

-Oh, my God.

-Lovely.

-Yes.

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-Family things?

-Yes, they were my mother's. Yeah.

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OK. And was she a collector or a dealer?

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-No, my father just bought them for my mother.

-Did he?

-Yeah.

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-So you remember them growing up as a child?

-Yes.

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They are glazed Parian.

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-Parian ware was invented for the 1851 Exhibition.

-Right.

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It was invented to copy marble busts.

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But by the 1870s, the marble busts were going out of fashion,

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so they needed a new use for their Parian ware.

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And this sort of ware became the new fashion.

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It is known as blush ivory

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because it is a yellowy colour

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with a bit of a pinky tinge to it.

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And then it is hand-painted over the top.

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And this was fashionable until about 1910.

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And here we've got a pair painted with thistles

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and meadow flowers. And with masks on the handles.

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Lovely quality gilding, in good condition.

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-If you wanted to sell them, which I presume you do...

-I do.

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..they would certainly sell at auction. They won't make a lot.

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-Today, auction estimate of 80 to 120.

-Right.

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Might make a shade more. I would put a firm reserve of £80 on them.

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And at least that's a safety net so don't they don't go below that.

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-Yes.

-Is that all right for you?

-Yes, that's fine.

-Super, all right.

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While an item might not always be en vogue,

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what I always say is one man's trash is another man's treasure.

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I love looking in your bags and boxes to find things

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that are intriguing, even if they are not to everyone's taste.

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Ever seen anything like it before?

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Do you know, I'm lost for words.

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-Are you?

-I'm lost. I don't know what to say.

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I really don't know what to say.

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To me, it looks as if it is sort of 1950s.

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There's always a buyer for something,

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we've found that on this show.

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But I tell you what, though, I couldn't help but gravitate

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towards it to go, "Gosh, what is this?"

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Yes.

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-And now I've seen it...

-You're going away again.

-I'm happy.

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THEY LAUGH

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Now Elizabeth has found something that is definitely to her taste.

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Well, Tim, you've made my eyes sparkle when I saw this

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because it accessorises with my outfit today,

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so I'm very pleased to see this little jewel.

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Is this something that you've inherited or what can you

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tell me about it?

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-No, I found it at a car booty in East Anglia...

-Oh, did you?

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..one weekend, yeah.

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My wife was looking for costume jewellery

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and they found this big box.

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And they were messing around in there looking for stuff

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and I see this little pouch right in the corner.

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As I pulled it, this popped out of the top.

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So I just said to the lady, I thought,

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"How much do you want for it?" And she said £5.

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And I went, "No, I'll give you £3 for it."

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And she said, "Yeah, OK, fine."

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-I took it home and put it under some spotlights and it sparkled.

-Mm-hm.

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And I put a magnifying glass on it and I thought,

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-"No, this is...this is something."

-The real thing.

-Yeah.

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-Have you done research in terms of a value as well?

-I haven't got a clue.

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-No?

-I haven't got a clue.

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Obviously, you have probably established from looking at it

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more closely that what we have here is a late Victorian brooch

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which is set with, principally, sapphires and diamonds,

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and it is centred by a pearl.

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-Right.

-The pin at the back is gold.

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-It is gold?

-The mount that the actual stones are set into,

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I think, is probably silver. It's not marked.

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A lot of jewellery of this ilk, because it is so delicate

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and there's not much ground to sort of stamp anything on,

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-often it isn't stamped, it isn't marked.

-Right.

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Now, the late Victorians loved the crescent moons

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as a motif for jewellery, principally for brooches.

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And they used different stones to reflect that,

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but I think obviously the blue and the silver of the stones

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they've chosen really sort of suit it perfectly.

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You know, I think they all look as though they're original,

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they've not been replaced, so it is all very positive.

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So have you got an expectation of the value then?

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Is there something that you'd be...?

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As long as it is more than £3.

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If it's more than £3, I'm quite happy, yeah.

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You know, if it doubles its value...

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-Yeah, I don't mind.

-At the moment, the precious metal market

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is still strong, which gives it...

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It doesn't mean that it is really relevant, but it gives a baseline

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of interest that that would hold just because of what it contains.

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-Right.

-I think a sensible estimate

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-would probably be £200 to £300.

-Right.

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But I would suggest that probably a discretionary

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reserve of a round about 180. Are you happy with that?

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-Yeah, yeah. Ching-ching.

-THEY LAUGH

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You'll be back to East Anglia for the next car booty.

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-Yeah, definitely.

-Let's watch with interest and see.

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-Yeah. Yeah.

-We'll reach the moon, eh? For that one.

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-Yeah, thank you very much.

-Thank you so much, Tim.

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-I'll see you at the auction.

-Thank you.

-Take care. Thank you.

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But before we do that,

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I've headed to another part of the museum for some fun.

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Time to play on the largest collection of working

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penny arcade slot machines on public display.

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Dating from 1910 to the 1960s, all the old favourites are here,

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from the shoot the skeletons...

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Go down, come on!

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..to the Egyptian pyramid.

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And my favourite, the spiritualist room.

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Oh, look, there's a skull coming from the back of the chair.

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Madam Zasha, please, please, please, make it good news.

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Right, here we go.

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"The way you attract

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"so many admiring glances, it's a good job

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"I'm not the jealous type!"

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Well, I wonder if our experts' predictions are right

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with their valuations, as we go straight over to the auction room.

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Let's put them to the test.

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And here's a quick recap of what's going under the hammer.

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Here's hoping for good fortune for all three of our items today.

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There is Paul's pioneering anaesthetic instrument,

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the proceeds of which will go to a good cause.

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There is Valerie's duo of less-than-fashionable blush ivory

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Royal Worcester vases

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in search of an avid collector.

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And finally, there is Tim's car boot bounty -

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this stylish Victorian brooch he bought for a song.

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For our auction, we are heading to Winchester,

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a town surrounded by reminders of the Industrial Age.

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The area is dotted with nearly 100 old mills, but the only one

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still working is in Whitchurch, a stone's throw from Winchester.

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It produces high quality silks which clothe the actors

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in historic dramas like BBC's Cranford.

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For our sale today, we are here at Andrew Smith & Son,

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and hoping to create some drama of our very own

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as our lots go under the hammer.

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So don't go away, because I think there could be a big surprise.

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And don't forget, if you are selling, there is

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a commission fee to pay.

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It varies from saleroom to saleroom.

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Here, it is 18% including VAT.

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On the rostrum today is auctioneer Nick Jarrett.

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And our first lot

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is that early-20th-century anaesthetic instrument,

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brought in by Paul.

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-When you see it...

-I know.

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It comes in this box

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and you see this wonderful chrome sort of construction.

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-Well, exactly right.

-..you go, "Gosh, that's good."

-It foxed me.

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I don't know what it is all for and how it's used,

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but we appreciated it on the day, didn't we, as exactly that,

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-just a piece of aesthetic beauty.

-Let's hope people pick up on it.

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I think they will because it is a curio. And it is so hard to value.

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Well, it is certainly hard to value.

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-Ready for this?

-Very ready.

-Well, let's put it to the test.

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Here we go.

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This is of medical interest. Good thing.

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I've got a few bids

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and I have to start you to clear bids here at £60.

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Yes! There's a doctor in the house.

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65. Is that it? At £65.

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70. Five. 80.

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-Come on. Fresh legs.

-Come on.

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Five. 90.

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I've got to go 100. 110?

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130.

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-I've got 130 then.

-£130.

-£130.

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140?

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At 130 then...

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Sold. Hammer's gone down. £130 for that wonderful piece of sculpture.

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PAUL LAUGHS

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Well, I am so happy with that because it is all going to charity.

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-Fantastic.

-To brain tumour research.

-Brain tumour research. Well done.

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-Thank you.

-Thank you so much.

-Thank you very much.

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How apt that the proceeds are being used to continue to

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change people's lives for the better.

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Our next lot are those blush ivory Royal Worcester vases

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that aren't to Valerie's taste.

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But will there be a buyer out there who will want to

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get their hands on them?

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-Mum and Dad had them.

-Yes.

-Were you allowed to touch them?

-No.

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-No. Precious?

-Yes. On the mantelpiece.

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Well, we've got a classic 80 to 120.

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They should sell at that, James.

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That is a good estimate on those.

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It is a conservative estimate, isn't it?

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-Yeah.

-Who knows?

-Good for your money.

-Yeah.

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-There is a market for this.

-OK.

-So fingers crossed.

-We'll see.

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-You don't want to take them home, do you, really?

-No.

-No.

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-Here we go.

-Thank you.

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-Handsome vases. I have to start you to clear bids at 120.

-There you go.

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-130.

-They've gone, top end of the estimate.

-Great.

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We're selling at 120. 130?

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At £120 then, with me.

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130. 140. 150.

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It's with me still at 140, and I am selling.

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150 did you mean, sir?

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No, at 140 then, still with me.

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150, yes? £150 on the net.

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-At 150. 160.

-Good, good.

-150 on the net.

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I'm out. At £150. Any more?

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At £150. All done at 150...

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-Great result.

-Thank you.

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-For today's money, that is a great result.

-Yes, I know that.

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Luckily for Valerie, there was a fan out there.

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Now, our third object should have admirers aplenty.

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Well, just to jog your memories, this is Tim

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and coming up next we've got something bought at a car boot

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sale for £3, and we're just about to sell it hopefully

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for £200 to £300.

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-It is the sapphire brooch.

-Yep.

-What a find.

-I know.

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It was a great find. But it's super quality.

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I can imagine it mixed in with other things, it would have

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stood out as being slightly different.

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But, yeah, well done, you, cos it's a charming little thing.

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-Yeah, charming.

-Let's find out what the bidders think, shall we?

-Yeah.

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-It's going under the hammer.

-Lovely.

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There it is, handsome brooch. And I've got several bids.

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I have to start you at 400 to clear.

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OK then!

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-At £400.

-Get in there.

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-420. 440.

-That is a shock.

-At 420 then.

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At 420. 440?

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At £420. Are you in here? At 420.

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All done? At £420...

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Last chance.

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-Yes!

-Ching-ching!

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-How about that?!

-Get in there!

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-Straight in on the big numbers, wasn't it?

-Yeah.

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-Brilliant.

-That shocked me. Shocked you as well, didn't it?

-Yeah.

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I thought, "Gosh, could this go any higher?"

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-Straight in, lots of bids all at once.

-Very pleased with that.

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-Yeah, very pleased. Excellent.

-Back at the car boot this weekend.

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Yeah, I'll put a few more pound down.

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Well, Tim's obviously got the eye,

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so hopefully he'll find more car boot bargains.

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Now, sometimes scientific advancements can come

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in the most modest of forms without publicity and fanfare.

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Not far from this saleroom

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is the pretty, rural village of Selborne.

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Now, it is like most other villages around here.

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It has a village shop, a little cafe and a couple of pubs.

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But out in the heart of it lived a man who

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revolutionised our understanding of nature and our environment.

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I've come to this quiet little nook in Hampshire to find out

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more about the 18th-century naturalist Gilbert White

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whose worldwide reputation rests on this single book.

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And this is his house.

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But to find out what he achieved and why his work became so important,

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I've come through the house for now and out into his workplace -

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his GARDEN set amidst the beautiful landscape of Hampshire.

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Gilbert White was born here in Selborne in 1720.

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As an avid gardener,

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he was compelled by the natural environment around him,

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something David Standing,

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the gardener here for 20 years, knows all about.

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What is special about this spot for a gardener,

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or for White particularly?

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For White, yeah. A lot of things, really.

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There were so many different habitats and types of vegetation

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and geology was so varied

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there was an awful lot to study.

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-And it is here, all on his doorstep.

-Indeed it is.

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The surrounding area inspired a fascination for nature

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and all its complexities throughout the seasons

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and would become the inspiration for Gilbert White's life's work.

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In what way was his approach different to other

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naturalists at the time?

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Instead of taking nature into the laboratory and chopping it up,

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he went outside and looked very carefully at what was happening.

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He would look at one thing for a very long time

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to examine all the details of it - how doves migrated,

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how they...the sort of nests they made.

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The swallows, for example, around the village.

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He wanted to know whether they hibernated or whether they migrated.

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He wanted to know all their habits.

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And nobody had really focused

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so closely before on that kind of detail.

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So that was kind of new and fresh, wasn't it?

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I mean, he obviously looked at the weather,

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looked at the changing seasons

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and saw how that affected plant life and animal life.

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-And I know he discovered new species.

-He did indeed.

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There was a little mouse that people just assumed

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was a small house mouse, but it turned out to be a new species -

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the smallest mammal, the little tiny harvest mouse.

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They are cute mice, aren't they?

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And nobody had identified that before as a separate species.

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And it was only through very careful observation

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that he was able to identify it.

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How charming. That's lovely, isn't it?

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Gilbert's scientific approach was to stake out a small place

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and watch the natural world around him undisturbed.

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He believed by focusing on a small sphere in meticulous detail,

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you could get the best results.

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And this is where he would come and sit.

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It's been made from an old port barrel.

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He drank the port with the villagers before he converted

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it into some kind of hide. Now I'm going to get inside this.

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And he'd sit in here, patiently, for hours on end,

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just observing the weather and the changing seasons

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and how it affected plant life and animal life.

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Nobody had done this before.

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But it is what he did next with these observations

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that made White so remarkable.

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There are no confirmed images of Gilbert White,

0:22:330:22:35

but the Gilbert White Trust has restored his study

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as it would have been in his day.

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And this is where he wrote up the results of all his fieldwork,

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in the Natural History Of Selborne.

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Published in 1789, they still have the original document here,

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a remarkable record of what we would now call early scientific endeavour.

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And what I love to see is the creative mind at work here, with

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mistakes and crossings out together with great content and detail.

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I'd like to read you a little extract from the book

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here about the pettychaps bird. And here we go. Look.

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"This bird much resembles the whitethroat,

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"has a more white or rather silvery breast and belly.

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"It is restless and active, like the willow wrens,

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"and hops from bough to bough, examining every part for food."

0:23:230:23:28

So you can tell, look, he's really been out there quite patiently,

0:23:280:23:31

observing and studying every single little move.

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White conveyed his scientific insights with a prose style

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that appealed to the reader.

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It is this X-factor that won him quite a fan club,

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from painters to poets, and even Darwin.

0:23:460:23:49

One man who understands the allure of White's writing is former

0:23:490:23:53

publisher Ronnie Davidson-Houston.

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He's amassed the largest collection of editions of the book

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and even published his own version,

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and they are all here in this library.

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Well, I've never seen 1,000 editions of the same book before,

0:24:050:24:08

so that is a first for me. Very impressive.

0:24:080:24:10

It is a classic of English literature.

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And I was, you know, just one person among the whole nation

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who knew and loved this book and carried it with them to war.

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And when they went abroad, off to the colonies in the 19th century,

0:24:200:24:25

there was always a copy of the Natural History Of Selborne

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in their baggage.

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Why? Why was it, though?

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-It had a sense of home to people who travelled abroad.

-Wholesome.

-Yep.

0:24:310:24:35

There is so much that is quintessentially

0:24:350:24:38

English about this book. It is not surprising it appeals to

0:24:380:24:41

people all over the world and has become a global phenomenon.

0:24:410:24:46

You've got some that are bookmarked here, why is that?

0:24:460:24:50

Well, those are the copies that I am still looking for,

0:24:500:24:53

-so it is a collection progress.

-So it is still not complete?

0:24:530:24:55

-No, no, but it is still a magnificent obsession.

-Wow.

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And the poetry of his writing style is still evident in his work

0:24:590:25:03

for all to read.

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"On Friday, December the 10th,

0:25:080:25:10

"being bright sunshine, the air was full of icy spicula, floating

0:25:100:25:15

"in all directions, like atoms in a sunbeam let into a dark room.

0:25:150:25:20

"Were they watery particles of the air frozen as they floated,

0:25:200:25:24

"or were they evaporations from the snow, frozen as they mounted?"

0:25:240:25:29

Gilbert White continued his quest to understand the natural world

0:25:300:25:34

here in this garden right up until his death in 1793.

0:25:340:25:38

He was aged 73.

0:25:380:25:40

From such small seeds grew a worldwide phenomenon

0:25:400:25:44

and a new science - the study of the environment and all living things.

0:25:440:25:49

Gilbert White had firmly set himself amongst

0:25:490:25:52

the pioneers of early ecology.

0:25:520:25:55

We are back at the Milestones Museum in Basingstoke,

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our valuation day venue, where the crowds are having a wonderful time.

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-ALL:

-Hey!

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And James has found some objects Gilbert White surely would

0:26:130:26:16

have appreciated - a compass

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and a Victorian measuring instrument known as a theodolite.

0:26:180:26:22

And, of course, James knows all about it.

0:26:220:26:24

Now, John and Jean, I have to tell you, you are taking me

0:26:260:26:29

back years to when I did surveying at uni.

0:26:290:26:33

We all had to have a go with one of these.

0:26:330:26:36

And do you know, I can't remember how on earth to use it!

0:26:360:26:40

It looks so complicated.

0:26:400:26:42

I think I had about two days of one of these,

0:26:420:26:44

got completely baffled and got somebody else to do it for me.

0:26:440:26:47

-What is the history behind this?

-Well, my father had it.

0:26:470:26:51

It was wrapped in a box and it was put away for some reason

0:26:510:26:55

and I only found it after he had died.

0:26:550:26:57

-So...

-Was he a surveyor?

-No, he was a stonemason by trade.

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-OK.

-So he would have worked in the building trade, then.

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-That's right, yes.

-He may well have been using this in the 1930s.

0:27:050:27:09

Although it was made about 100 years earlier than that.

0:27:090:27:13

We've got an inscription on the dial.

0:27:130:27:15

It says Abrahams,

0:27:150:27:17

A Abrahams & Co, Liverpool.

0:27:170:27:21

So it is not a London maker,

0:27:220:27:24

but it is still good maker.

0:27:240:27:26

And it is...

0:27:260:27:28

The whole thing is constructed in lacquered brass.

0:27:280:27:31

-Is this anything you guys know how to use?

-Yes, I know how to use it.

0:27:310:27:35

-I'm a surveyor as well.

-Oh, yeah, OK.

0:27:350:27:38

So did you use something similar?

0:27:380:27:40

Something similar but a lot later design.

0:27:400:27:42

This was quite a showy object.

0:27:420:27:44

The dial itself is a silver dial,

0:27:440:27:48

similar to something you would

0:27:480:27:50

expect to see on an 18th-century or early-19th-century longcase clock.

0:27:500:27:55

Or a barometer. Again, that scientific instrument type of look.

0:27:550:28:00

Now, what is the story with this one?

0:28:000:28:02

Well, this one was my father's. He was a surveyor as well.

0:28:020:28:05

And he was seconded to the Gold Coast Survey

0:28:050:28:09

in West Africa in the 1930s.

0:28:090:28:12

What a time to be in West Africa!

0:28:130:28:15

And one of his jobs was to update the maps that they had at the time.

0:28:150:28:19

-Which is the relevance of this little chap.

-Yes.

0:28:190:28:23

-OK.

-It is actually huge, so to open it up would be a bit difficult.

0:28:230:28:27

Is it a really massive one?

0:28:270:28:29

-It is a massive one.

-I'll have a look at that later.

0:28:290:28:32

The first thing to say is -

0:28:320:28:33

-the compass and this piece should be sold separately.

-Yes.

0:28:330:28:38

I think the map, because of its history

0:28:380:28:41

-with the compass, should stay together.

-OK.

0:28:410:28:44

So in terms of value, let's start with this one.

0:28:440:28:47

That is a straightforward piece.

0:28:470:28:49

It is a lovely quality, scientific instrument.

0:28:490:28:53

It is worth £250 to £350.

0:28:530:28:57

And you should really put a reserve of 200 on it.

0:28:570:29:00

If it doesn't make that, then try it in a specialist sale.

0:29:000:29:03

-Fine. That's fine.

-So firm reserve of 200.

-Yes.

0:29:030:29:06

This one...

0:29:060:29:08

As a compass, it's nothing exciting.

0:29:080:29:11

It's just what it did is exciting.

0:29:110:29:14

And therefore...

0:29:140:29:16

-I have to use my head, not my heart. 60 to 100.

-Yeah.

0:29:160:29:20

I think that is what it is worth.

0:29:200:29:22

And a firm reserve of £60.

0:29:220:29:25

-That would be fine.

-Is that OK?

-Yes.

-Fine.

-Really interesting.

0:29:250:29:28

-It has been an absolute pleasure.

-Thank you very much.

0:29:280:29:31

There is a very healthy market for scientific instruments, so let's

0:29:310:29:35

see how these particular fascinating surveyor's tools do at auction.

0:29:350:29:40

We love it when you bring us something a bit different,

0:29:420:29:45

so I've left the hustle

0:29:450:29:47

and bustle of the main hall to take a look at just such a collection.

0:29:470:29:50

# Sure plays a mean pinball! #

0:29:500:29:52

This music memorabilia artwork, relating to the iconic

0:29:520:29:55

'70s rock band The Who, is owned by one local man, John Davies.

0:29:550:30:00

# He stands like a statue Becomes part of the machine... #

0:30:000:30:03

Collector Paul Kelly has brought it in to tell me John's story.

0:30:030:30:07

When John listened to the songs, it would inspire him to do artwork.

0:30:070:30:11

And on this, he'd done a small exhibition.

0:30:110:30:14

And it was his friend that said to him, "Can my friend see these?"

0:30:140:30:17

And John said, "Yes, of course he can."

0:30:170:30:19

Well, a week later, he turned up with Roger Daltrey from The Who.

0:30:190:30:22

And John was like amazed.

0:30:220:30:25

Roger Daltrey and Pete Townshend liked the work so much

0:30:260:30:29

they had John do his artwork for a book about the band.

0:30:290:30:32

And how did you come by this?

0:30:350:30:37

So, unfortunately, John was killed in a car accident in 2006.

0:30:370:30:41

And lo and behold, what I didn't know, John had made me

0:30:410:30:44

the main beneficiary to his will.

0:30:440:30:45

And as I was cleaning out his old house in Bramley,

0:30:450:30:49

I came across all these portfolios in his bedroom.

0:30:490:30:52

And in the portfolios was all this artwork.

0:30:520:30:54

-Paul, thank you so much for bringing your collection in.

-No problem.

0:30:540:30:57

It's great to collect rock memorabilia.

0:30:570:30:58

And I think you're doing the right thing with The Who, so stick at it.

0:30:580:31:01

Thank you very much.

0:31:010:31:03

As they were such great friends, Paul Kelly has an emotional

0:31:030:31:06

connection to the work and won't be parting with it.

0:31:060:31:09

But remember, if you are thinking of collecting, there is

0:31:090:31:12

a very strong market for original rock memorabilia.

0:31:120:31:16

Now, has Elizabeth got a hit with an artistic piece

0:31:160:31:19

crafted in a very different era?

0:31:190:31:21

# We got a hit. #

0:31:210:31:24

-David, good afternoon.

-Good afternoon.

0:31:240:31:26

You have brought this beautiful little sampler.

0:31:260:31:28

-I think it is very nice.

-Do you like it?

-Yeah.

0:31:280:31:30

Are you a collector of samplers?

0:31:300:31:31

-No, I'm not.

-You're not? So how have you acquired this?

0:31:310:31:34

Well, it was just a spur of the moment.

0:31:340:31:36

I walked into an antique centre and I saw it on display

0:31:360:31:40

-and I thought, "That's nice."

-Uh-huh.

-Cos I do like pictures.

0:31:400:31:44

-Right.

-I looked at it, it was the little label on the back

0:31:440:31:47

that made me interested.

0:31:470:31:48

Did you know the significance of the references on the label?

0:31:480:31:52

That's why you bought it?

0:31:520:31:53

The only thing that sort of gave me inspiration was

0:31:530:31:57

-the Earl of Coventry, so I thought, "Oh, that's history."

-Yes.

0:31:570:32:01

-So I bought it.

-So, how long ago was that?

0:32:010:32:04

-That's back in about 1978, '79.

-OK.

-Yeah.

0:32:040:32:08

So the name here, Mary Gunning,

0:32:080:32:11

and the label on the back which refers to Maria Gunning,

0:32:110:32:14

really it's exciting

0:32:140:32:16

because it sounds as though it belongs or had association with

0:32:160:32:19

a very famous Maria Gunning who married the Earl of Coventry,

0:32:190:32:22

as it says on the label.

0:32:220:32:24

That isn't original to the frame.

0:32:240:32:26

It is handwritten. But there is no proof that we can establish today...

0:32:260:32:30

-No.

-..that would link it to the lady who was so famous in history.

0:32:300:32:34

That's what I thought.

0:32:340:32:35

Maria Gunning, as you perhaps know, she died at the young age of 27,

0:32:350:32:40

in 1760,

0:32:400:32:42

from poisoning of all the items, all the ingredients in her face make-up.

0:32:420:32:46

-A bit like Queen Elizabeth I.

-Right, yes.

-She died of poisoning.

0:32:460:32:50

-I didn't know that.

-Yeah.

0:32:500:32:52

She was reputedly a lady of great beauty who made men

0:32:520:32:56

swoon in front of her because she was so beautiful.

0:32:560:32:58

But she was known to be the first person died of vanity,

0:32:580:33:00

so, I mean, it is all kind of very much wrapped up in that.

0:33:000:33:03

It is, isn't it?

0:33:030:33:04

It's a sampler worked in coloured wools. They are not fine silks.

0:33:040:33:08

They are sort of fairly robust threads on a very course

0:33:080:33:11

canvas ground.

0:33:110:33:13

From this shape of it, it is very much

0:33:130:33:15

a sort of Georgian sampler because it is long and thin.

0:33:150:33:19

It is very simple, it's got no border.

0:33:190:33:21

As samplers move through into the Victorian period,

0:33:210:33:24

they became squarer

0:33:240:33:25

and the border took up more of an attention to detail.

0:33:250:33:29

So the fact that this has a date which doesn't tell us a year

0:33:290:33:34

but implies it is '44, it might be 1744, it might be 1844.

0:33:340:33:39

It doesn't feel like it's 18th century to me.

0:33:390:33:42

But I love the range of stitches which are shown at the top.

0:33:420:33:45

That's quite an unusual feature

0:33:450:33:47

to have all these lovely stitches here.

0:33:470:33:49

It goes down to a fairly predictable alphabet

0:33:490:33:52

in the different upper and lower cases, the numerals.

0:33:520:33:55

Then we have French, which is quite unusual.

0:33:550:33:58

I think, realistically, you would be looking at open market

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value at the moment of round about £70 to £100, which is

0:34:020:34:05

probably not dissimilar to what the way it was when you...

0:34:050:34:08

But samplers in the last 20 years I have seen,

0:34:080:34:11

they have risen quite steeply. Some of them still make a lot of money,

0:34:110:34:14

but a lot of them are quite disappointing.

0:34:140:34:16

To think of the age and the work that's gone into it.

0:34:160:34:18

-Yes.

-So on the basis of that, would you be happy to try it?

0:34:180:34:22

-Yes, by all means.

-And we'll put a reserve on it for you of £70.

-Yes.

0:34:220:34:26

Let's follow on and see the next stage of its progress.

0:34:260:34:28

-Thank you very much.

-No, thank you.

0:34:280:34:30

Even if the sampler isn't by Mary Gunning,

0:34:300:34:34

will the buyers be tempted by the unconfirmed connection?

0:34:340:34:38

James has been drawn to something very special on his table.

0:34:380:34:42

Angus, what can I say?

0:34:450:34:47

You have brought with you one fairly bashful Venus

0:34:470:34:52

and one rather confident Apollo.

0:34:520:34:55

HE LAUGHS

0:34:550:34:57

-Typical fella.

-LAUGHING:

-Right.

0:34:570:35:00

They are two of the most famous classical sculptures that we see

0:35:000:35:06

up and down the salerooms all over the country.

0:35:060:35:09

These are brown patinated bronze.

0:35:090:35:12

They are influenced by the originals excavated in the Grand Tour

0:35:120:35:17

excavations in the 18th century.

0:35:170:35:19

And they are by the Barbedienne foundry,

0:35:190:35:24

-Ferdinand Barbedienne.

-I did not know that.

0:35:240:35:27

But, yeah, he was a Frenchman. He was born in 1810.

0:35:270:35:30

But in 1838, he opened the Barbedienne foundry.

0:35:300:35:34

So you see round the site here, F Barbedienne Fondeur,

0:35:340:35:39

-foundry.

-Yep.

0:35:390:35:41

And they cast some of the most important bronze sculptures,

0:35:410:35:46

candlesticks, urns, interior design of the 19th century.

0:35:460:35:51

-The other thing to say is that they are not a pair.

-Aren't they?

0:35:510:35:54

-No, cos look, the base, slightly different shaped bases.

-Oh, yeah.

0:35:540:35:58

But that doesn't matter because they sell individually equally well.

0:35:580:36:02

What is your history with them?

0:36:020:36:04

My wife bought them 50+ years ago.

0:36:040:36:07

Her boyfriend was an antique dealer, an Irish antique dealer.

0:36:070:36:11

-He used to come over to England every year or so.

-Yep.

0:36:110:36:14

And she used to travel with him

0:36:140:36:16

round to different places when she got a chance.

0:36:160:36:18

And I think she bought them,

0:36:180:36:20

but it could be that he bought them for her.

0:36:200:36:23

And she has had them all this time.

0:36:230:36:25

-EMOTIONAL:

-Which I lost her about three months ago.

0:36:250:36:27

And they've got to go down to family.

0:36:270:36:30

I can't give them to one, so I want to sell them.

0:36:300:36:32

-OK.

-So that's the plan.

0:36:320:36:34

-Your wife had very good taste.

-Yeah, oh, yes.

0:36:340:36:37

-No answer to that.

-HE LAUGHS

0:36:370:36:40

And a very good eye.

0:36:400:36:42

Barbedienne foundry was one of the best.

0:36:420:36:46

They are slightly suffering

0:36:480:36:51

due to a little bit of surface patination wear.

0:36:510:36:55

This one has been dropped at some stage and has a bash on the base.

0:36:550:36:59

So because of that,

0:36:590:37:02

I'd like to put a somewhat conservative estimate on them.

0:37:020:37:06

-£600 to £1,000.

-Jeesh!

0:37:060:37:09

-Is that all right?

-Oh!

0:37:090:37:11

Too right.

0:37:110:37:12

Very much so.

0:37:120:37:14

I would be very disappointed

0:37:140:37:16

-if they didn't make upper end of the estimate.

-Lovely.

0:37:160:37:20

That completes three more fascinating valuations.

0:37:200:37:23

And what a great day it's been for interesting finds

0:37:230:37:26

here at the museum.

0:37:260:37:28

So as we say goodbye from Milestones...

0:37:290:37:32

It is over to the auction for the very last time to put those

0:37:320:37:35

valuations to the test.

0:37:350:37:36

And here's a quick recap of everything that is going

0:37:360:37:39

under the hammer.

0:37:390:37:40

Will the early-20th-century surveyor's instruments

0:37:400:37:43

belonging to John and Jean's father chart a course to success

0:37:430:37:47

when they go under the hammer?

0:37:470:37:49

And there is David's sampler

0:37:490:37:51

referencing the 18th-century beauty Mary Gunning.

0:37:510:37:55

But without proof of provenance,

0:37:550:37:57

would it attract the bidders?

0:37:570:37:59

And finally, will Angus's

0:37:590:38:00

mismatched bronzes which belonged

0:38:000:38:02

to his wife live up to expectations?

0:38:020:38:04

Back at the saleroom, Nick Jarrett is about to auction our next item.

0:38:130:38:17

-Jean and John, good luck.

-Thank you.

0:38:180:38:20

Two lots, one following the other one.

0:38:200:38:23

-We have two compasses.

-Yeah.

0:38:230:38:25

One for...

0:38:250:38:26

One is a little small hand-held compass which was used to plot

0:38:260:38:31

-roads in Africa.

-OK, yeah.

0:38:310:38:32

And the other one is the big surveyor's compass.

0:38:320:38:35

-Good luck with those.

-Thank you.

0:38:350:38:36

We're going to put them to the test right now.

0:38:360:38:38

-We are starting off with the one...

-The hand-held one.

0:38:380:38:41

The hand-held one. This is it.

0:38:410:38:42

I'm going to start you here, to clear bids, at £42.

0:38:420:38:47

45 can I say now?

0:38:470:38:49

It is 42 with me. 45 anywhere?

0:38:490:38:51

Anybody else in at 42? At £42.

0:38:510:38:54

Any more?

0:38:540:38:55

At £42. No? At £42.

0:38:560:39:00

Well, I can't sell it at £42, so...

0:39:000:39:03

James had his doubts about that one.

0:39:030:39:05

-Yeah.

-Better luck with the next one.

0:39:050:39:07

-We've got high hopes for this one. The theodolite level.

-Yeah.

0:39:070:39:09

And that would've been on a tripod base, wouldn't it?

0:39:090:39:12

-It would.

-In its day. I mean, it is a wonderful-looking thing.

0:39:120:39:15

-It is. I like it.

-It is incredibly made.

-Yes.

-Well, good luck with it.

0:39:150:39:18

I do have a few bids on this

0:39:180:39:20

and I have to start you to clear them at £400.

0:39:200:39:23

-There we go.

-Good!

0:39:230:39:24

At £400. To clear other bids, at £400. And 20 is it now?

0:39:240:39:29

420 on the phone. 450.

0:39:290:39:31

470.

0:39:310:39:32

£500. And 20?

0:39:340:39:36

550. 570?

0:39:360:39:38

600. And 20?

0:39:380:39:40

At £600 with me on commission. At £600.

0:39:400:39:43

20 on the other phone.

0:39:430:39:45

620, yes?

0:39:450:39:47

At £620 on the other phone and I'm out here.

0:39:470:39:49

Are you done? At £620...

0:39:490:39:52

Gosh, £620!

0:39:540:39:56

-That's very good.

-A big smile. We like that.

0:39:560:39:59

That made up for the lack of interest in the first one,

0:39:590:40:01

-put it that way.

-Yes, it did. Thank you very much.

0:40:010:40:04

Although the first one didn't sell,

0:40:040:40:06

what a fantastic result for that surveyor's compass

0:40:060:40:09

that so evoked the past.

0:40:090:40:11

As does the next item - David's Georgian sampler.

0:40:110:40:15

While Nick is taking a rest, we are

0:40:150:40:16

now in the hands of his colleague, Andrew Smith.

0:40:160:40:19

I like samplers. I like those early Georgian ones.

0:40:190:40:22

This one is slightly different because it is telling us a story.

0:40:220:40:25

Well, it's a spurious connection

0:40:250:40:26

to Mary Gunning, which would get everybody very excited.

0:40:260:40:29

As it turns out, it is just a very nice sampler.

0:40:290:40:31

Unusually, part of it is written in French.

0:40:310:40:33

Rather than being an English script, it is written in French.

0:40:330:40:35

I think it was a very learned young lady who was doing her French

0:40:350:40:38

and her needlework at the same time.

0:40:380:40:40

-Yes. A well-educated young lady. And disciplined.

-Indeed.

0:40:400:40:43

-Better than I can do.

-Let's see what we can do for you.

0:40:430:40:45

Let's see if we can get your money back. Here we go.

0:40:450:40:48

It's going under the hammer.

0:40:480:40:49

£70.

0:40:500:40:52

50 then.

0:40:520:40:53

£50 I have, thank you. And five.

0:40:530:40:56

£70. Even better. At £70. And five.

0:40:560:40:59

£70 is on the net. And five anywhere?

0:40:590:41:01

At £70, are you sure?

0:41:010:41:03

Very last time then at £70...

0:41:030:41:06

-Yep, tres bien.

-Tres bien, Elizabeth.

-Tres bien.

0:41:070:41:10

Indeed, a delightful piece. Now, our last lot of the day -

0:41:120:41:16

Angus' bronze sculptures that belonged to his late wife, Jean.

0:41:160:41:20

Angus, your two bronzes, Venus and Apollo,

0:41:220:41:25

are just about to go under the hammer.

0:41:250:41:27

And if you look in front of the rostrum, look, you can see,

0:41:270:41:29

pride of place. Look.

0:41:290:41:30

They're great. Lovely quality casting.

0:41:300:41:33

Then you've got your top name.

0:41:330:41:34

-Yeah.

-And hopefully, top dollar. Right now, right here. Good luck.

0:41:340:41:38

That's what we want. This is it.

0:41:380:41:40

Two 19th-century bronze figures. We have two telephones.

0:41:410:41:45

Oh, great!

0:41:450:41:47

-How much?

-We've got a battle on our hands.

0:41:470:41:50

I'll start then at 400, which is a commission bid. At £400.

0:41:500:41:54

420. 450. 470.

0:41:540:41:57

500. My commission bid is out. £500 on the net.

0:41:590:42:03

550.

0:42:030:42:05

600. 650.

0:42:050:42:06

700. 750.

0:42:060:42:09

800. 850.

0:42:090:42:11

Angus...

0:42:120:42:14

I think we could be looking at four figures, don't you?

0:42:140:42:17

At £900, and we are selling. 920 to Gary's phone.

0:42:170:42:21

950.

0:42:210:42:22

-970.

-Oh, we might do. We are going to do it.

0:42:220:42:25

It is £970.

0:42:270:42:29

-£1,000.

-Ah!

0:42:290:42:31

£1,000 on the net.

0:42:310:42:33

1,050.

0:42:330:42:34

1,100.

0:42:340:42:36

To the phone at £1,050, and we are selling.

0:42:380:42:41

-We are selling, Angus. 1,050.

-That's great.

0:42:410:42:45

£1,050 then for the very last time...

0:42:450:42:49

-Thank you for bringing those in.

-My Jean would've loved that.

0:42:510:42:53

I bet she would've.

0:42:530:42:55

Well done, well done. Great result, James.

0:42:550:42:58

Great. Very, very pleased. They were my favourite thing on the day.

0:42:580:43:02

And a great result. Well done.

0:43:020:43:04

-Yeah. You take care of yourself. Well done. A pleasure.

-Thank you.

0:43:040:43:07

It's been a pleasure, Angus.

0:43:070:43:08

What a great tribute to Angus' wife who so appreciated those bronzes.

0:43:080:43:14

We've had some highs, not too many lows and a few tears,

0:43:140:43:17

but it is all in a day's work. Do join us again soon.

0:43:170:43:20

But until then, from Hampshire, it's goodbye.

0:43:200:43:24

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