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I'm 60 metres below ground on a lake of drinkable water | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
that's 9.5 metres deep. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
So, where am I, you may be asking? | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
Well, I'm in Cornwall's only slate mine. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
And later on in the show, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:12 | |
I'll be delving into the county's mining history. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
Welcome to "Flog It!"! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
Today's show comes from Cornwall, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
whose beaches attract more than four million people every year. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
I have a special affection for this county | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
because this is where I was brought up, in Falmouth, | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
and that's where we're heading today. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:52 | |
-Dydh da. Now, there's a bit of Cornish, What does that mean? -Hello. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
Hello, and hello to everyone here. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:00 | |
-Anyone know anything else? -Yeah. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
-SHE SPEAKS CORNISH -Get on with it. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:03 | |
That's what I'm doing right now. Thank you. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
We are here at the National Maritime Museum, Cornwall, which houses | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
some of the county's finest maritime heritage | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
and, for one day only, we've taken it over as our valuation day venue. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
The whole town has turned out, laden with antiques and collectables, and | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
they're all here to ask our experts that all-important question, | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
which is? | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
-ALL: -What's it worth? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
They're not slow in coming forward, here in Cornwall, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
and, as the queue builds, outside, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:31 | |
Philip Serrell has already had an offer he can't refuse. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Would you like to see my tortoise? | 0:01:35 | 0:01:37 | |
-That's the best offer I've had all day, darling. -There he is. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
And inside, hoping to strike the right chord, is Caroline Hawley. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
Oh, wow. If you can play it, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
you might give me a little tune when we get in there. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
What did I say that for! | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
So, let's get those doors open, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
get everyone in and get the valuations underway. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
And while everyone settles down, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
let's take a peek at what's coming up. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Today's journey is an emotional one, with feelings of passion. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
Well, she's made my day. Absolutely. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
I've seen lots of lovely things today, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
but she's one of my favourites. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
-And desire. -We see lots and lots of things on "Flog It!", | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
but I'd like to own that. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
But it could all end in tears at the auction. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
-Are you OK? -SHE SOBS | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Aw. Are you OK? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
Good luck, everyone. And thank you for turning up. I really mean that. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
What a turnout we've got today. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
And hopefully, someone's journey starts right here, right now. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
It could be you. It could be you that has something valuable | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
that goes off to auction and makes a small fortune. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
That's what this show is all about | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
and it's our experts' job to find it, so let's get started. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
Philip was on the lookout for something local, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
but will Roger's two copper pieces fit the bill? | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
-Roger, how are you? -Fine, thank you, Philip. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
This smacks of a man who's got an interest in bits of copper. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
Well, being Cornish, yes. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Well, there's a reason for that, isn't there? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
Because there are a number of really good arts | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
and crafts schools around the country, where metalware was | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
produced, and the one that you always think of in Cornwall | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
-is Newlyn School... -Hmm. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
-..and the man who you associate most is John Pearson. -Exactly. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
And John Pearson did fish, didn't he? And he did galleons. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
And, as well as the Newlyn stamp, sometimes there's a JP monogram, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
-isn't there? -That's on my pieces. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
-So, you're a collector? -Yes. -So, you know exactly what you've got? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
So, Roger, when you refer to an industry, these things weren't | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
-made in factories, were they? -No, they were made by simple fisherman. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
They'd learned to make the copper from a man called McKenzie, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
so they could earn some money on the days that they couldn't fish. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
-Who was McKenzie? -He set up the Newlyn Copper School. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
So, really, this is a thing that fisherman did as | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
almost like a bit of pocket money, as a second industry, in a way. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
-Yes. -But I also know that Newlyn collectors, of which you are one, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
-they want it stamped Newlyn, don't they? -Ideally, yes. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
So, here is the question - where's the stamp? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
-There isn't one. -There isn't one and let me guess | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
that the reason why you're selling it is because | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
-it hasn't got Newlyn stamp on it. -Basically, yes. And this is too big. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
The rest of my Newlyn collection are smaller trays, coffee jugs. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
-When was the Newlyn factory set up? -1884-1885. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
And did they always stamp their wares? | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
From about 1904-1907. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
-So, there's a 20-year period where they didn't stamp stuff? -Exactly. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
So, there is a chance... | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
I mean, hand on heart, do you think this is by Newlyn? | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Hand on heart, I believe it is because it's shown | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
-all the characteristics of Newlyn. -Which is what? | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
The scores on the lid and on the bottom of the handle, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
and also the wave form and the rivets. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
But the key thing for you is that it don't say Newlyn. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
Basically, yes. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
-And that's the key, isn't it? -Well, no. The key is it just doesn't fit | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
-in with the rest of the collection. -All right, Roger. But for me, it has to say Newlyn. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
And I think you've got to pitch this as though it isn't Newlyn | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
and if people get excited about it, then it might go and take off. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
But what I think is really interesting is, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
at the outset of this little chat, I said there were little | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
schools all around the country, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
and, in my eyes, you've got a Cornish, hopefully, example | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
here from Newlyn but now you've gone to completely the other end of the | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
country, and we go up to the Lake District in Keswick, and you've got | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
KSIA, which is the Keswick School of Industrial Arts and this is, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
in a way, it's another one of these enclaves where | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
metalware was produced and again, highly collectable, isn't it? | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
And what I think's lovely about this is that you've got | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
the stamp here and what that little KSI does, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
it converts a copper tray that's probably worth about two quid | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
into something that's probably worth about £20-£40. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Now, the way I would sell these is I would sell them as one lot | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
and hope to appeal to a metalware collector. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
I would sell it as a Keswick School of Industrial Arts oval dish | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
and then I would call this a copper jug, probably from Newlyn. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
-I don't know that we can say definitely, can we? -We can't. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
And I think we should put an estimate on the two for £60-£90 | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
and a fixed reserve of 50 quid. Do you think I'm right on price? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-I think you are right on price. -OK. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:18 | |
Well, let's keep our fingers crossed | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
and let's hope that two people in the sale room take | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
a shine to our so-say bit of Newlyn. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
The lack of markings on the jug | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
makes the stamped Keswick piece more appealing. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
Caroline has found a fine figure with plenty of panache, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
but does this have the markings of Provenance? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
-Lovely to meet you, Linda. -Thank you. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
And your gorgeous, gorgeous girl. Absolutely delightful. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
Tell me, how on earth did you acquire her? | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
Well, a friend of mine had a friend who was a luvvie, Dame Anna Neagle. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
And the story is that when Anna Neagle was performing | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
in Peter Pan, she had this made for her, or she bought it for her. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
I don't whether she had it made or she bought it | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
because she thought it kind of looked like Peter Pan | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
and, when Anna Neagle died, it was returned to this lady. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
And when she died, I acquired it through my friend. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
Gosh, Linda, you are so lucky. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
I think she's absolutely adorable. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
And I've had a really good look, back to front, all ways round - | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
she's not marked at all. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
I would expect to see the name | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
of Joseph Lorenzo, Ferdinand Price, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
Chiparus - one of those makers. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
-That's unfortunate, isn't it? -Unfortunately, there's none of them. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
But it doesn't take away from the fact that she is a beautiful | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
gold-painted bronze figure. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
She's got a little bit of damage down her cheek, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
but she is absolutely beautiful. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
On this Onyx base. She's exactly what everybody wants. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
There's a bit of damage to the paint, in one or two areas, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
but nothing horrific. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
And, in my opinion, she's much better than a totally naked female. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
I think she's coquettish, a bit of a luvvie. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
The movement in this figure, the style. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
-She is just lovely and I'm sorry it's not signed... -So am I... | 0:08:06 | 0:08:11 | |
But, all day long, she's going to get £300-£500, all day long. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
But I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
if she didn't get £1,000 either. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
So, I think, for auction, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
-we'll put her with an estimate of between £300-£500. -OK. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
-Are you happy with that? -Absolutely. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:28 | |
-And then I think we'll see what happens. -Can we have a reserve? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Of course we can have a reserve! | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
What would you like? Bottom estimate? £300? | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
Whatever you think. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
Well, I think if we put a reserve of £300, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
just to stop her falling through the safety net. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
-There's no danger of that. -No. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
She is a delight. She's made my day. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Absolutely. I've seen some lovely things today, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
but I think she's one of my favourites. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
-Thank you, Linda. -Thank you. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
If it had a Joseph Lorenzo mark, there would be no | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
need for some pixie dust to make this one fly. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
Now, I've spotted an appealing piece of local art, brought in by Kate. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
Kate, this is absolutely charming. A little study of William Holman Hunt. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
I think, the greatest of all the Pre-Raphaelite painters. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
It's a little watercolour, highlighted with French white. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
-How did you come by this? -I bought it in a lot about ten years ago... | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
-Did you? -..with a sketchbook. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
What else was in the sketchbook? Can I ask? | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
Not another Holman Hunt, but a lot of little studies by Ralph Todd. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:32 | |
It's a Ralph Todd, isn't it? | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
And there's a little monogram, Ralph Todd. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
A well-respected artist from the Newlyn School, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
but he struggled to make a living from his art | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-and I don't understand why because look at the quality of that. -Quite. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
This is Holman Hunt, who died in 1910. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
I think Todd died in 1932, didn't he? | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Why are you thinking of selling this now? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
It was part of a lot. Other elements of it, I'm keeping. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
But that and another portrait, I just want to sell. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
Do you mind me asking you what you paid for this sketchbook? | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
-Ooh! That's a cheeky question. -OK. OK. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
Well, I think Todd's work, a little study like this, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
he'd quite easily get £100 to £160-70, but I think, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
because of the subject matter, William Holman Hunt, the great | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
Pre-Raphaelite artist, I think, because of | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
the subject matter, £200-£300. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
-Fantastic. -Happy with that? | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
-Very much. -Is that a good return on that sketch? -It is. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
In fact, Ralph Todd had a son called Arthur Ralph Middleton Todd, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:37 | |
who was also a highly accomplished Newlyn artist. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Now, I wonder what's under that box. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
Hi, Philip. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
-Pleased to meet you, Philip. -You're...? -Peter. -Peter. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
-That's not really a Cornish lilt there, is it? -No. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
I'm afraid I'm a Mancunian. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
-Oh, I shouldn't apologise for being a Mancunian. -Not at all. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
-I'm quite proud of that. -And what brought you down here? | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
-Well, I came in as a merchant seaman. -Really? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
In the '60s, and I met the wife and the rest is history. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
That is fantastic. And you've brought me a purple box. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
With a secret underneath, I think. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
-Do I had to lift it up? -You have to lift it. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
-You've got to make sure it doesn't dash away. -Oh! | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
That's lovely, isn't it? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:14 | |
-So, tell me about the tortoise. Does he have a name? -Well, not really. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
To me, well, "Doorstop" was his most. And perhaps "Damn" | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
when you caught your toe on it, now and again. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
How long have you had it? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
I've had it several years, but it's been in the family. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
My stepfather had it. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
He was a Canadian champion wrestler, believe it or not! | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
-Wrestler? -He was a wrestler. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:32 | |
Was he one of those television things | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
that Kent Walton used to talk about? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
-No, no. He was born in 1898. -Oh, right. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
So, he was mid-20s between the wars. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
What we're assuming is that he picked this up on his travels, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
and then eventually he passed away and my mother gave it to me. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
-And you don't want it? -Well, I can't say it has a sentimental attachment. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
So you thought you'd come along to "Flog It!" and see if you could | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
-flog a tortoise? -Exactly. -So, how old is it? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
-Circa 1900, I would have thought. -And what is it made of? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
To be honest, all these years I thought it was brass, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
-and apparently it's turned out to be... -Bronze. -Bronze. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
-Shall we turn it over and see what it says? -Love to. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
So, there's a little mark just here, which says, "Made in Austria", | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
and that would date it to around about 1900, as you say. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
And there's a B, here, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:19 | |
and a great exponent of cold painted bronzes was a man called Bergman. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
This may or may not be by him, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
but certainly, just on the tail, there's a B and a shield. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
So, let's hope it's by Bergman. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
In terms of value, it's an interesting one because | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
I think he's quite fun. I think anybody would look at this | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
and think this is worth £200-£400, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
and I think it is worth £200-£400, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
and that, in my opinion, would be a sensible estimate for it. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
And I think you should put a reserve of it of £200. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
There is a "but" coming. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:49 | |
The "but" is, it wouldn't surprise me if it made possibly £800, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
possibly a little bit more. It wouldn't surprise me. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
I think you need to put a fixed reserve of £200. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
-How does that sound? -That sounds wonderful. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
And what would you do with the money? | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
Well, obviously, I'd better do mother right - | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
she's got to make sure she has a... | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
and then put the other half to see to. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
Then what's left, I might buy something to go fishing with. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-I might buy a new fishing rod. -A new fishing rod? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Well, let's hope that Terry the tortoise goes and does really well. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:17 | |
And do you know what? We've seen lots and lots of things | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
on "Flog It!" and not all of them would I like to own, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
but I'd like to own that. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:23 | |
Bergman is a big name for collectors, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
so, if the auction house confirms that stamp, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
it could add even more value to the tortoise. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
We are now halfway through our day | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
and you have just seen the first items ready to go off to auction. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
I've got my favourites, you have probably got yours, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
but let's find out what the bidders think. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
While we're going over to the auction room, here's a quick | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
recap of all the items that are going under the hammer. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
Roger's copper jug and Keswick tray should attract some attention. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
This fine-looking Art Deco figure is certain to fly. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
And what will the collectors make of the portrait of English painter | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
William Holman Hunt? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
And, with a steady pace, will this tortoise be a winner in the auction? | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
We are heading to the town of Lostwithiel, which is believed | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
to have taken its name from the old Cornish meaning | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
"the place at the tail of the forest." | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
There aren't as many trees now, but, luckily for us, | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
there is Jeffrey's Auction House | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
and Ian Morris has the gavel in his hand. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Don't look so sad. Anything can happen in an auction room | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
and, I tell you what, you could pick up a few bargains as well. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
If you are thinking of selling, there is commission to pay. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Here it's 15% plus VAT, but it varies from sale room to sale room, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
so check the details that are printed in the catalogue. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Ask a member of staff. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:56 | |
Don't get caught out, or you could be disappointed. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
First up, this copper jug and tray. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
Over the 14 years on the show, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
we've seen plenty of Newlyn copper and Keswick School, and we have | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
two items right now going under the hammer, belonging to Roger. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
One is definitely Keswick, the other - the jury's out. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
OK, so you're selling this cos you don't think it's Newlyn either, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
-do you? -It doesn't fit in with the rest of the collection. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
The rest of the collection is fairly small | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
and, of course, it's a very high piece. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
Yes, I personally don't think it is Newlyn | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
and I think Ian's in the same school of thought. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
It's not catalogued as Newlyn. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
But, look, the Keswick piece will definitely fly, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
so thank you for bringing that in | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
because we get an opportunity to talk about Newlyn as well. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
What I think is lovely is that here we are, in Cornwall, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
the piece that's going to sell this is the Keswick bit. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
-There isn't a saleroom further away from Keswick than here, is there? -Not really, no! | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
Anyway, good luck. And hopefully, all the proceeds | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
will go to purchasing another piece of Newlyn. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
-Definitely. -We love the collectors. We love investing in antiques - | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
that's what it's all about. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
And right now, hopefully, we're going to sell a couple. This is it. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
Keswick copper. Also with a crafted copper jug. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
The jug and the tray, I've got four bids on here | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
-and I've got to start at £90. -Yes. -£90, I'm bid. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
At £90. 95. £100. 110. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
At £100, the bid's on the book. 110 anywhere? | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
At £100. Done. Going. At £100. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
£100. That hammer's gone down. Job done! | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
-Super. -Super. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
-Proper job. -Proper job. Yeah. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
A good result for Roger. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
Now, Caroline has some news about this sculptured lady. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:30 | |
Fingers crossed. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
Well, Linda and Caroline, I'm expecting big things for this. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
-It is classic Art Deco. -Gorgeous. I did some research. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-Oh, listen to this, Linda. -I've done some more research, Linda, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:42 | |
since I've seen you and I'm almost 100% sure it is a Josef Lorenzl. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
-Right. -It's not signed, but I'm sure it is a Lorenzl figure. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
-That means highly sought after. -Yes. Yeah. -One of the best. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Well, this is exciting, isn't it? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:54 | |
What we're looking at here is what? Three to five? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
I think it's going to get 1,000. | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
-You'd settle for 300, wouldn't you? -Yeah, I would. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
OK. Well, let's find out what it does, shall we? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
-Because, hopefully, we can get four figures. -OK. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
The Art Deco bronze, exotic dancer. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
Bids on the books means I've got to start at £420. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
-At 420. -Right. Mid-estimate. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
At 420. 440. 460. 480. 500. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
520. 550. At 550, the bid's on the book. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
-We're done? 580. 600. 620. -Gosh, that was late coming in. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:29 | |
£600. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Hammer's gone down! Yes! Just over the top end. £600. Fantastic. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
-That was a good result. -Yes, it was. I'm happy with that. -So am I! | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Are you happy? Oh! | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
-Because, one minute ago, you said you'd be settling for 300. -I did. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
And now we've got six. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:46 | |
-So, you know, that's really good. -Wonderful. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Yeah. Thank you for bringing that in. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
Well, it seems the bidders also thought this figurine | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
was by a famous sculptor. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
The provenance of this watercolour has also been under scrutiny | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
since the valuation day. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
You've been doing a lot of detective work. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
I have been doing a little research and it's by his son, | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
which was Arthur Ralph Middleton Todd. He was born in 1891. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
I don't know if that's going to affect the value. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
I think if anybody's interested in Todd and the family, hopefully... | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
-It'll make no difference. -It'll make no difference. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
And it's beautifully executed. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
-Well, he was a good portrait painter. -Very good portrait painter. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
I think it's a wonderful piece of history. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
Yeah, and I'd love to own it. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
-I hope it has a good home. -So do I. So do I. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
We're going to find out right now. Good luck, Kate. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Watercolour portrait, WH Holman Hunt. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
What do I say for that? £200 away? 150 away? | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
£100, I'm bid. At £100. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
110 to get on. 110. 120. 130. 140. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
150. 160. 170. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
At 170, I'm bid. 180 now. At 170, I'm bid. 180 not... At £170. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:55 | |
Got to pass, I'm afraid. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
-Not enough. It did affect it, didn't it? -Yeah, probably. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
Yeah. Never mind. It's still a lovely thing to look at | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
-and you get to keep it. -Indeed. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:05 | |
-Well, thank you for bringing that in. -Not at all. Not at all. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
Although AR Todd may not be as well-known as his father, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
he's still highly regarded and his work has been | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
exhibited in galleries like the Tate and the Royal Academy. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Now, more good news. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
The auctioneer has confirmed this tortoise is a Bergman, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
as Philip thought. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
-The reserve isn't £200 any more. -It is... -£700. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Right, that means we have to revise the estimate to 700-900 cos | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
it's illegal to have a reserve higher than the bottom estimate. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
Was it your idea to say 700 or Ian's? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
Well, he was going to alter but not by that amount, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
but I found a site that was offering one in a retail position for £2,900. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:51 | |
Right, OK. We're going to find out what it makes right now | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
because it is going under the hammer. Here we go. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Bergman, the Austrian bronze sculpture of a tortoise. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
A little Bergman stamp on its tail there. £200, I'm bid. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
At £200, at £200. 220 now. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
At £200. 220. 240. 260. 280. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
260. 280. Straight in. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
-380. 400. 420... -400. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
450. 480. 500. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
520. 550. 580. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
600. 620. 650. 680. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
-700. In the room. -£700. -£700, I'm bid. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
720? At £700. £700. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
Well done, Peter. I mean, you were spot on. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
£700, a fixed reserve, and it made it. That tortoise was pretty fast. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
-Congratulations. That's a lot of money. -Thank you. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
And I know you've got a new grandchild coming soon. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
-A new great-grandchild. -A great-grandchild! | 0:20:43 | 0:20:45 | |
-You don't look old enough. -Oh, thank you very much. -Wow! Well, look, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
I think that's a really good little nest egg for your great-grandchild. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
-Lovely. -Don't you? -And thank you very much. -Pleasure. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
33. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
Well, there you are. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
Our first three lots done and dusted under the hammer, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
and three happy owners. It doesn't get much better than that | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
and we're coming back here later on in the show, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
so don't go away. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Now, we all know Cornwall is famous for its tin and its copper mines. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
The landscape is peppered with their ruins, | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
but the county's also famous for its slate mines, | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
believed to be some of the most durable and desirable in the world. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
So earlier in the week, I set off to dig up some facts for myself. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
The origins of Cornwall's tin | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
and copper deposits date back to around 300 million years. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
Rising temperatures and powerful geological activity deep within the Earth's crust | 0:21:39 | 0:21:45 | |
gave rise to granite, a hard, tough rock, containing many metals, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
including tin and copper. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
Cornwall's rich mineral resources have been exploited | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
since medieval times, but it was the industrial advances of the 18th | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
and 19th centuries that really sparked a mining boom. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
Steam power enabled deep shaft mining and the drainage | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
from pumping of water from below the Earth's surface. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Now, whilst tin and copper were the main focus of the industrial | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
mining here, Cornwall had another natural resource to offer | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
that was in great demand - slate. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
Slate has been mined here in Cornwall since medieval times | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
and used primarily for roofing, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
paving and as a building material. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
The most famous of the county's slate mines is at Delabole, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
which is one of the oldest and deepest quarries in Europe. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
Slate from here was transported all over the world. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
The Delabole pit is still a working quarry today, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
but it's one of a few to survive. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Some 300 years ago, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
there had been another slate quarry here at Carnglaze, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
near the village of St Neot, which is 17 miles from Delabole. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
Now, unlike its neighbour, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
the workers here did something quite unique. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
Instead of quarrying for slate on the Earth's surface, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
they went underground. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:14 | |
Thankfully, much of the history of what was Cornwall's only | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
underground slate mine has been preserved, | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
not only by the past owner but the present owner, Caroline Richards, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
and she's got her own interesting story of how she acquired this mine. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
And Caroline is somewhere down there. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
I'm going to meet her and have a chat to her. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
This is amazing. I'm going 60m below ground and 150m into the hillside. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:49 | |
-Caroline. -Hi. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
Pleased to meet you. I've got to say, I'm really jealous. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
How did you get to own your own slate mine? | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
We were actually looking for woodland to restore | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
-and we were looking to retire. -Where are the trees? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
-Outside. 6.5 acres of woodland... -OK. -..with a cottage. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
-And that's what you bought. -That's what we bought | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
and it turned out there was an old slate mine in the back garden, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
but even then, there wasn't lighting to all of it underground | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
and so we still didn't realise the extent of it. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
-And have you learned a great deal about mining in Cornwall? -I have. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
I've had to learn an enormous amount along the way. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
I had a bit of a head start because I was a geography teacher | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
and I was always interested in archaeology, geology, | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
history, that sort of thing. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
So, how is slate formed? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
This particular slate started off about 400 million years | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
ago as mud at the bottom of an ocean and then it got caught | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
up at a time when the tectonic plates underneath it were closing. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
That gave a great deal of lateral pressure that turned it into slate. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
Mid Devonian slate is what it's called. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
That's what it is, is it, Mid Devonian? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
Cornwall varies from early Devonian through to Carboniferous. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
So, why did the miners change this from a quarry into a mine? | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
By coming underground, they got to the better quality slate. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
It wasn't weathered, like it was outside. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
And because there were tin and copper mines starting to grow in the area as well, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
there were a lot of people with the skill set needed for going | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
underground for slate miners at the same time. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
How safe was it working here, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
compared to the tin or the copper mines? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Underground here, you've got solid slate, so it's good, strong rock. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
-You can see that it's unsupported. -It is, yes. -To a huge height. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
And it's very safe, very strong. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
In its heyday, how many men would have been working down here then? | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
-We believe about 20 teams of five... -Gosh. -..in total | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
because there was such a constant demand for the product. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
Extracting the slate was a hard manual job, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
as an account in the 1890s by a visitor, Mr WP Watkins, shows. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
'They sat on three-legged stools and used mallets and curious chisels | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
'with flat heads and wide triangular blades to dress the slate. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
'In the candlelight, they were only half visible. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
'And as they struck, the men maintained the rhythm.' | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
One of the chambers also houses an underground lake of drinkable | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
water that is 9.5m deep. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
So this is the only water supply you have to your house, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
so you drink this water? | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
We do indeed and we don't have to treat it or anything - | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
it's just drinkable straight as it is. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
It has to be tested every year, just to prove that it's drinkable. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
And does it stay at this level all the time? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
It keeps itself fairly static, but after heavy rainfall, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
it will rise maybe a few feet and then, by the end of a week maybe, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
it will have gone back to its normal level. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Does your house have connections to the mine as well? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
It does indeed cos it wasn't a house at all, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
it was the engine house for the steam engine that was | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
used for hauling the carts of slate up from the lower caverns here, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
from the lower chambers. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Tin, copper and slate mines fell into decline in Cornwall | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
by the 20th century due to larger deposits found overseas. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
This mine closed in 1903 and, as other mines shut down, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
the miners followed the work overseas. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Today, the slate miners have long gone, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
but the caverns are still used for weddings, tours and concerts. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:23 | |
The local history and the ambience of the mine also | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
lives on through bands like Dalla, who sing in Cornish and English. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
SHE SINGS IN CORNISH | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
# Hard is the stone | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
# Hard is the ground | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
# It's all that ever we knew... # | 0:28:06 | 0:28:11 | |
-Hillary, tell me what the song's about. -OK. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
Yeah, it's called Dean Younk a Gernow, which means The Young Man of Cornwall, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
and it's actually all about a man leaving Cornwall | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
and it's really symbolic of the men who left | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
Cornwall in the 1800s really, when many, many miners left | 0:28:28 | 0:28:33 | |
because of the mines closing down. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
But it's also very much about the women who actually remained | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
and the hard life they had to deal with, raising children | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
and keeping the household going when the men were actually abroad, | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
you know, earning a bit of money, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:47 | |
which they would then send home, most of them did. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
A real sentimental journey. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:51 | |
Yes, absolutely. We live in Cornwall and we want to know about our own Cornish music, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:56 | |
but also it's absolutely wonderful to sing in the Cornish language. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
HILLARY SINGS IN CORNISH | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
# I see you no more | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
# I'll be with you till the world ends | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
# I'll be with you till the world ends. # | 0:29:20 | 0:29:27 | |
Welcome back to our valuation day venue, the Maritime Museum Cornwall. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
The valuations here in Falmouth are still in full swing | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
and Caroline is being put to the test. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
-So, Alison... -Yeah. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
..when I came to Falmouth today, I was expecting maritime items, I was | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
expecting Newlyn School, and I was wondering about mystery objects, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
and you have brought the latter. Tell me what you know about this. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
It was given to my dad, who was a fencing master, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
and I think it was given to him because it looks like a sword. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-But this is not a fencing sword, is it? -No. No, it's not. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
We think it is a club for hitting people with. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
Yes, I think I would agree with you on that one! | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
And it looks like it hails from somewhere in the Pacific. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
-I was told Papua New Guinea. -Yeah. Or possibly Polynesia. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
Well, it's fascinating. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:28 | |
And it's a bit of a dangerous item to have about. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
-How long have you had it? -It's been in the house as long | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
as I can remember, so since I was very little, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
so easily 30 years. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:38 | |
-I see. And it was around when you were a child. -Yes. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:42 | |
-And was it used to control you? -Yes. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:43 | |
My brother and I were told if we didn't behave then our dad | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
-would hit us with what he called his bommyknocker. -Bommyknocker?! -Yes. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
-So this is a bommyknocker. -It's a bommyknocker. -Right. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
It's got a big piece knocked off. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
Was that knocked off on you, by any chance? | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
No, it's always been like that, as long as I can remember. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Well, I think something like this | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
very much depends on its origin, its age... | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
-I don't think it's been made as a tourist item. -No, I don't think so. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:12 | |
For several reasons. One, you... | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
-Can you see the binding at the top of it? -Yeah. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
That looks to me like it's been there a long time. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:20 | |
-That looks 19th century. -Yeah. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
It's a hardwood cane, which has split and then, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
take my word for it, it is very heavy. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
It is. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:28 | |
The stone, which looks like some volcanic black sort of rock... | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
-I think it might be, if that's where it's from. -Yeah. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
It's an amazing object. There's something I'm not sure about. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
I'm not sure how that stone is meant to attach to there. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
It doesn't look like it belongs. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
And I think this needs a great expert in this kind of thing | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
to look at it. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
-OK. -Really. And it would need an awful lot more research. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
However, I think if this is put into a good auction, I think | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
-the market will give you the market price of this thing. -OK. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
Have you ever given it any thought as to the value of it? | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
I had a tentative value put on it a few years ago... | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
It was suggested it might be a couple of hundred pounds' worth. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:12 | |
It could be anywhere between £80 and £8,000. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
-Yeah. -And I don't know. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
-But are you prepared to give it a go on "Flog It!"? -Yeah, absolutely. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
And I will be as interested as you to see where this delightful | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
-thing is going to go. -Yeah. -It is interesting. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
Thank you very much, Alison, for bringing it along. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Thank you for having a look. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:33 | |
I'll be very interested to see how that does later. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
Right then, Philip. Time's ticking. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
-Martin, how are you? -I'm well, thanks, Philip. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
-That's not a Cornish accent, is it? -No, no. -Where are you from? | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
-I was born in Germany, actually, but Essex boy really. -Yeah? | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
-Essex boy for many, many, many years. -Yeah? | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
And tell me all about this then? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Well, I've had it for probably 20 years | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
and I've only worn it half a dozen times at a black tie do or | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
something like that, when the circumstances were right. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
And it was my granddad's, but I don't use it, so... | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
-You don't need a watch in Cornwall? -Who needs a watch in Cornwall?! | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
I love brands and you've got there one of the world's great brands - | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
Hermes. And it's interesting. Hermes were a French company, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:16 | |
set up in the early part of the 19th century, and what's little | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
known about them is they cut their teeth making saddlery. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
-Ah, no, I didn't know that. -Let's just have a good look at it. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
We've got Hermes written on the circular dial, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
-you've got a stamp there... -Yeah, I couldn't make out the mark. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
No, I can't either. But I would think this is probably 18 carat gold, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
but I can't guarantee that. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
Looks like you might have another minor stamp there | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
-and there on the buckle. -Yeah. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:40 | |
I would think there's every chance | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
that this bracelet might be original. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
-I think it is. -And that's lovely. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:45 | |
Might be shooting myself in the foot here, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
but I'm going to ask the question - you've got 1930s Hermes gold | 0:33:47 | 0:33:53 | |
watch that belonged to your grandad and you're going to sell it. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
I think I'd much rather somebody was using it | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-and I think someone will love it. -Yeah. -You'd probably love it. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
You're looking at somebody who'd love it. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
I think it's absolutely fantastic. I love watches. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
And there's an interesting thing about this, you know. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
In this country, did you know, that on mechanical items, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
-you don't pay capital gains tax? -Oh, no. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
So, if this goes and makes £30,000, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
-there is no capital gains tax to pay. -Wow. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
Nice little take home bit there. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
But what I think is lovely about it, we're looking at a watch | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
that's 80 or 90 years old, but that could be 1970s, couldn't it? | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
It's timeless. Let's put it in the auction. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:29 | |
I think that this is going to make between £200 and £400. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
I think we put a fixed reserve on it of £200 | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
and I think someone is really going to treasure that, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
-and what I really hope is I hope they keep that strap. -Yeah. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
-Absolutely. Fixed reserve. -Fixed reserve, £200. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
-Let's hope time flies. -Good. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
But first, it looks like Caroline knows a thing or | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
two about strumming a tune. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
Hello, Richard, Annette. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
Tell me, how do you come to own this gorgeous guitar? | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
We bought it from a chap down here, from Hull, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
who used to play in a group called the Ramrods. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:02 | |
-Hang on, from Hull? The guy was from Hull? -Yeah. -I'm from Hull. -Yeah. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:07 | |
How extraordinary. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:08 | |
-And his group was the Ramrods. -The Ramrods. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
-And he moved down here, did he? -He moved down here to play. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
Right, and then why did he sell his guitar? | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
-Oh, he got a bit hard up financially. -Financially. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
-His rent and all. -So the Ramrods weren't doing too well? | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
-They was, for so many years... -They broke up after so many years. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
They played down here for a good four years for sure. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
-So, when did you buy it? -In the early '80s. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
And I would imagine, from the style of this, that he played in the '60s? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
-Yes. -Yes. -I have to say, I don't know the Ramrods, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
but I think this guitar is fabulous. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
It's a Fender Jaguar, dates from around 1960, '62, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
'63, that sort of period. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
-Yeah. -Look at this lovely faux tortoise shell scratch plate. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
And this is a sunburst model. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
And the original strap, by the looks of it, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
-lovely leather strap. -Could be. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
-This has seen some action, hasn't it? -Oh, yes. -Do either of you play? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
He plays a little. Yes, he plays a little. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
What do you play, a little, Richard? | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
A bit of country and western, that sort of thing. Three-chord stuff. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
-Ooh! Would you serenade me with this? -No, no. I don't think so. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
Go on. Well, it's in very good condition. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:21 | |
-Has it been in your home, just on display? -Yes. -Since the '80s. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Oh, yes. And then we decided, time of life, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
to get rid of the things that our grandchildren are not interested in. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:33 | |
-No. -So, that's one of the reasons why we wanted to... -How interesting. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
Well, I have to say, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
I don't know anything about the Ramrods, I shall look into that. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
But it's great, it's come from Hull, come all the way down to Falmouth. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
It's quite difficult to put a value. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
I mean, if this belonged to one of the Beatles, for instance, | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
and we could attribute it to a certain rock star or band, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
it would make it very interesting. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
Yes. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
And they do sell, but I would say possibly to be safe, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
an estimate of 300 to 500. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
-Yes. -And would you want a reserve on that? | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
-Yes, definitely. -Yeah. So if we put a reserve of 300. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:15 | |
-A fixed reserve of 300? -Yes. -Are you happy with that? -Yes. -Yes, yes. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
Well, I think it's lovely and we'll put it to auction then, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
300-500, fixed at 300. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
-Yeah. -Right, lovely. -Thank you, both of you. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
That guitar certainly rocks. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
That's it. It's time to say thank you | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
and goodbye to the National Maritime Museum Cornwall, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
our magnificent host location, but it's not over yet. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
We've got some unfinished business to do in the auction room. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
We're putting our last three valuations to the test, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
so while we make our way over there, here's a quick recap, just to | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
jog your memory, of all the items that are going under the hammer. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:55 | |
We'll all be surprised to see how this ethnic wooden club | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
does at auction. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
Time could change everything for this Hermes watch. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
And I'm sure this guitar will be music to someone's | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
ears at the saleroom. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:14 | |
As we return to the auction in Lostwithiel, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
-all eyes are on Ian Morris. -300 away? 300 away. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
And first going under the gavel is Alison's unusual club. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
The auction room has done a little more research. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
We've all come to the conclusion it is Polynesian, OK? | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Question is, how collectible will this one be? | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
We've seen some great results on the show before. Hard to value. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:39 | |
-Really hard. -Hard to value. -Not many experts. -There's not many experts. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
And they keep it to themselves, so fingers crossed, | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
they've come down here and viewed this. Here we go. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
For the battle club, probably Polynesian, | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
£60 I've got on the book. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
At £60. £60. £70. £80. £90. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:56 | |
£100. 110. 120. 130. 140. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
150. With you. At 150 at the back. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
At 150. 160 not? Are we done? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
At 150, going clubbing tonight. £150. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
-There we go. -£150. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
-That was good. I'm happy. -Yeah. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
That's £150, rather than sitting, gathering dust. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
So, yeah, I'm happy with that. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
That's the positive outlook on it, isn't it? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Well done and thank you for bringing it in, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
because it really has given us a wonderful talking point. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
Thankfully, Alison got a good result. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
Going under the hammer right now, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
we have a 1930s gold Hermes watch, belonging to Martin, and we've just | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
been joined by our expert, Philip, who would like to own this watch... | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
-I must add. But you can't. -I know. I can't, I can't. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
I like it as well. It's a good brand. Was that granddad's watch? | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
-It was my granddad's watch. -And you've never worn in. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
-Don't wear a watch. -Never wear a watch. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:48 | |
So that's why you're selling. Fingers crossed we get the top end. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
-OK? It is collectible. -Absolutely. -It's very collectible. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
We're going to find out what the bidders think. Here we go. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
The Hermes 18 carat gold wristwatch, brown leather strap. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
Can I say £200 to start me? | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
£150 on the book. At 150. 150. Sorry? | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
-200. At 200. At 200 on the phone. -Right, we're there. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:10 | |
220. 240. 250. 280. 300? | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
300. 320. 350? | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
350. 380. 400? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
-This is better. -400. 400 on the phone. At £400. 20 anywhere? | 0:40:19 | 0:40:23 | |
-Phone's taking it now. -At £400, I'm bid. 420 now. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
At £400. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:28 | |
Yes, hammer's gone down. Top end of the estimate. Well done, Philip. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
-Well done. -Good price. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:33 | |
Do you know what? That watch would look great on a modern lady today. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
I'm glad it's gone. Somebody's going to use it, which is... | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
-You know, I don't use it. -That's the most important thing - | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
-these things have to be used. -Good news. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
-Thanks, Phil. -Pleasure. -There's no point in keeping a beautiful | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
piece like that in a drawer. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
Right now, it's time to rock the saleroom. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Yes, literally, because we have a Fender Jaguar guitar going | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
under the hammer, belonging to Richard and Annette. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Great to meet you both. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:00 | |
I've got to say, I had a Fender Jaguar. Do you play? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
No, only about three chords. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Three chords, that's all you need to write a great rock song! | 0:41:06 | 0:41:10 | |
-E, G, A. Smoke on the Water. -Yes! | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Look, I think 300 to 500 is sensible | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
and let's hope se can find a young guy to earn a living from this | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
guitar, write some songs, get in a band and earn a living. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
That's what it's all about. OK? Fingers crossed. Here we go. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
What's it for the Fender? Bit of interest in this as well. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
Three, four bids on the books. I've got to start at £420. | 0:41:29 | 0:41:33 | |
At 42, hit the right note. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:34 | |
-420. 440. -Yes, this guy's buying it, look. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
500. 520. 540. 560. 580. 600. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:42 | |
620. 640. 660. 680, with you. I'm out on the book. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
700. 720? 720. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
740. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:50 | |
740. 760. 760. 780? | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-800. -Telephone bid. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
At £800. 820, both in the room. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
850. 880. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
880. 900? 900. 920. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
-920. -Are you all right? | 0:42:02 | 0:42:04 | |
Hold on to me. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
980. 1,000. And 50? | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
And 50. 1,100? | 0:42:08 | 0:42:10 | |
-£1,050. -Are you OK? | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
£1,050, gentleman in the glasses. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
At £1,050. At £1,050. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
-£1,050. Yes! -Golly! | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
Those guys just missed it, look. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
Everyone loves an under bidder and thank those guys for that, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
because that guy had to pay £1,050 because those two wanted it. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
There's a tear in your eye. I can see it. There's a tear in your eye. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Wow! That is a lot of money, isn't it? | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
-What are you going to do with that? -Grandchildren. -What are their names? | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
-Lowenna, Alan and Brett. -Lowenna's a good Cornish name. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
Just a bit. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
And my granddaughter, she's expecting her first baby in June, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
so that's our first great-grandchild. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
-Aw! -Aw! How lovely. -What a way to end the show as well. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
Rock and roll! I hope you've enjoyed it as well. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
Join us again for many more surprises but, until then, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
from all of us here in Lostwithiel, it's goodbye, isn't it? | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
It really is, with a big major chord. Da-nah! | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 |