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MUSIC: Sadeness (Part I) by Enigma

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For our valuation day today, we're at the glorious

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12th-century Norwich Cathedral, where our crowds are gathering

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laden with treasures, so there should be plenty of competition

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amongst our experts.

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In fact, it's already started. This is a medieval game of marbles

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cut out of stone by the young novice monks,

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and we'll be finding out more about that later on in the programme,

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but for now it's welcome to "Flog It!".

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This fabulous cathedral built by the monks is one of the many

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impressive structures that define the Norfolk landscape.

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And there are other examples too, like the mines at Grime's Graves

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left by the Stone Age toolmakers and the huge lakes

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created 1,000 years ago by people digging for peat,

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now known as the Broads.

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Later on in the show, I'll be finding out

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about some of the inventive and surprising ways

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in which the ordinary people of Norfolk

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have left their mark on Norwich Cathedral,

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but first, what's in store for our "Flog It!" hopefuls?

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Hopefully one or two of you are going home with a small fortune.

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Laden with antiques and collectables,

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they're here to ask our experts that all-important question, which is...

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-ALL:

-What's it worth?

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Our experts are quickly laying claim to a good few objects

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and David Fletcher's already found an intriguing treasure...

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-That's an amazing thing, isn't it?

-Yes.

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I'll have to do some homework on that.

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Oh, look, that's pretty, isn't it?

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-..while Kate Bateman is digging for gold.

-I've got a wristwatch.

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-Cartier, please, be Cartier!

-No, it's not.

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But will she strike lucky?

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I know what Kate's thinking. Kate's thinking, "I hope that's gold."

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-Please be solid gold.

-This is solid silver with gold...

-Gold plate?

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Ah, well, Kate, you can still dream.

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And later on, David finds the object of his desire

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even if it is a toy one...

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I love it. It represents a stylish age.

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..Kate's found a little box that packs a big punch at the auction...

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SHE GASPS

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GAVEL BANGS

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..and I get a glimpse of something

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I didn't expect to see in a place of worship.

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Our crowds are heading into the glorious nave,

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which would have been the place of worship

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for the Benedictine monks more than 500 years ago.

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As they settle into their seats,

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let's go over to David for his first object.

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-Hello, Barbara.

-Hello.

-And thanks for bringing this along today.

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Now, I associate model cars like this with men.

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Boys' toys and all that. Is this yours

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or did you inherit it from a man?

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-Yes, I inherited it from a man, our Uncle Tom.

-Uncle Tom, right.

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-Yes, yes.

-And Uncle Tom must have made this himself.

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-I would have thought so.

-It is described as being a Ubilda.

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That's the brand name that this particular type of toy is given.

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So your Uncle Tom would have sat down and assembled it himself

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-but, of course, it came in this box.

-Yes.

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So we have the original box, which is fantastic.

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-When was your Uncle Tom born?

-Well, I think about 1910.

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Well, that's interesting because this very stylish motor car

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-is dated on the number plate...

-Yes!

-..1947.

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-CV for Chad Valley, 1947 for the date.

-Right, right.

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-So, he was in his 30s when he made this.

-Yes.

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These boyhood interests linger into middle age

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-or early middle age, don't they?

-Right.

-I love it.

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It represents a stylish age, doesn't it?

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An elegant motor car and it has a fairly significant appeal, really.

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-Right.

-Chad Valley, of course, started in the early 19th century.

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They were established in Birmingham and they were a printing firm.

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-Right.

-They didn't make toys at all until the 1920s

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but you can see that they would have used their printing skills

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-to decorate an item like this.

-Absolutely.

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And they continued making model cars until after the war,

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and they were awarded a Royal Charter in, I think, 1938

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-and we can see that.

-Yes.

-So, there's quite a bit

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of history in this, really.

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-I think it's fantastic. The box is in good condition.

-Oh, right.

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-The car itself is just a little bit tatty.

-It is slightly, yes.

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I mean, you've never played with it, obviously.

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Not really. I've just looked at it with interest.

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-Have you got children?

-Yes, but I don't think

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they're particularly interested.

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-No, they're too busy.

-How old are they now?

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-30 and 40.

-Oh, right, OK.

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So, even though your Uncle Tom evidently built it when he was 37,

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-your children are not going to be interested?

-No, no.

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-I think this has a significant value, not a huge value.

-No. Right.

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-And I would expect it to make between £80 and £120.

-Really? Yes.

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-A little bit more on a good day.

-Right, right.

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-How does that sound to you?

-That sounds marvellous, yes.

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OK, well, if we could go ahead on that basis, I'll see you

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again at the sale and I hope we have a good result with it.

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-Yes. It'd be lovely.

-I'm optimistic we will.

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I agree with David.

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There's got to be a toy car lover out there

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who'll want to take it for a test drive.

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From the vaulted roof to the cloisters,

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this cathedral is one of the least altered Norman buildings in Europe.

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And so I'm sneaking away from the action

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to look at one exceptional feature.

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I'm high above the crowds right now in the Ante-Reliquary Chapel.

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There's something I want to show you.

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It's traces of vibrant colour, which you can see here

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in these images of the apostles.

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They're all over the ceilings here and they date back to 1272.

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Much of the upper parts of the cathedral

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would have been decorated in this manner.

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The apostles' clothing shows that the painters

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would have known about the fashions

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at the Royal Court in London, far away.

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And by reflecting them here they wanted to show

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that the Norfolk people were just as powerful

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as their London counterparts and, with that, it's onwards and upwards

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with our own movers and shakers.

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Over to Kate, who seems delighted with a charming trio of objects

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brought in by Elizabeth.

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What can you tell me about them?

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My husband used to love going to auctions

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and that's all I can tell you.

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They've all come from different auction rooms.

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They're all Continental

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so he's not gone for anything English at all, here.

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And you've got a range of techniques, as well.

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So, you've got here... This little pillbox is really sweet.

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Now, that's transfer printed so the brown is transfer printed

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and then there's a little bit of hand colouring on the top.

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Yeah, that was what I figured.

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If you open it up, it's got silver mounts and then gilt interior,

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which is really nice inside, and I think...

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Yes, there's some little Continental hallmarks, there, which makes sense.

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-Oh, that's interesting. I never knew that.

-Ah! Teeny tiny ones down there.

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And on the bottom you got Roman ruins,

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which is very classical, there.

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And then, going to this one... This is enamelled.

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So, faience, or Faenza, which is basically

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a really, really thin layer of glass, effectively,

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bonded onto a metallic base and then gilt metal mounts.

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Nothing on the bottom that would have helped me.

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-No.

-A name would have been useful.

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This has also got little transfer-printed

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and hand-painted scenes and it's very Rococo and very girlie.

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Now, I have also noticed, here, it's probably been broken.

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It looks like there's a little bit of colour change here

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with the paint and it looks like it's been broken, re-glued

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and then over-painted, so a restoration job

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has been done at some point.

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And there's a few little dinks and stuff.

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-And then, this is really lovely. Do you like this one?

-Yes, I do.

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-I have seen them in a shop in Rome...

-Ah!

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..when my husband and I went to Rome many, many moons ago.

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It's the only place I've ever, ever seen them.

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It is for export for the tourist market but quite a while ago.

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-You're talking at least 100 to 150 years ago.

-Mm.

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And it's really nice quality.

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Again, you've got the gilt metal, so this,

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when it was new, would have been really bright gilded and it has

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dulled a little but I like that. And the quality of the casting

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is fantastic. If you look at it... Every single feather is really crisp

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and then, you've got fully hand-painted scenes, here.

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So, you've got classical lovers, a little love letter

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going on here in the middle, a story, little cherubs in the sky,

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and, of course, a clock with a glass

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or a domed rock crystal, maybe, thing here.

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So, it's a really nice group and I'm quite impressed

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that he's pulled it all together

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-from different places. That shows a great collector's eye.

-Yes.

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-So, you're not tempted to keep them?

-My husband's been dead for 35 years.

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-Oh, gosh.

-I've got no children of my own

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-so there's not much point in keeping them to go to the tip.

-Oh!

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-So I may as well have a bit of money in my pocket.

-Go to the races!

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Blow it all on shoes!

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Well, I think we'll probably be able to get you a pair of shoes

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out of this. They are really nice so maybe 250-350,

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which, if you think about it, is only £80 apiece for each item.

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Put a 220 reserve.

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That gives the auctioneer a bit of discretion below the low estimate.

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But we'll put a firm 220 reserve. 250-350.

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I think they'll sell. I have high hopes.

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I think those are really nice things.

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Well, let's hope you're right and 350 will...

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That's either one expensive pair of shoes or four cheap pairs of shoes.

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Well, ladies, let's just hope we get plenty

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for that lovely trio of items.

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It's always wonderful to have a spin around our valuation day venue

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to see the array of things you bring in for us.

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And Lorraine has brought me something that's right up my street.

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You know that old saying, "He was born with a silver spoon..."

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Do you know what? I'd rather be born with a sycamore one.

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Yes, this one right here,

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the one that belongs to Lorraine, and not for much longer.

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Thank you for bringing this in and letting me hold

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such a little treasure. Just look at this, and it's dated 1671.

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I think this is one of the oldest things we've got on the show today

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that we've found in the cathedral and I love it.

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I absolutely love it. Tell me a bit about yourself first.

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Are you born and bred in Norwich?

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No, I was brought up in Hull, in Yorkshire,

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but I've been in Norwich since the early '70s.

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And what do you think of the cathedral?

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-Oh, I think it's wonderful.

-Oh, it's stunning, isn't it?

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What a backdrop for our valuation.

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I think this is an English piece and it's been executed by

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a master craftsman. You know it's made of sycamore but it's charming.

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It's got some incise carving, almost architectural capital.

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-Can you see that?

-Yeah, that's what I thought.

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It's a column, it's a strong column

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and there's this hand at the end grasping a Bible.

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It's definitely a christening spoon and the initials inscribed, IB,

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I guess that's the little baby's name.

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And on the back, look,

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1671.

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How did you come by this?

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My late cousin gave it to me about five or six years ago

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because he knew that I liked old things.

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-What have you done with it?

-Well, although I like old things,

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I don't particularly like wooden things, so really it just lives

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in a drawer, so I thought it should get a wider audience.

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It's a shame about the little, tiny hairline crack,

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which is... If I just do this, you can see it's just a split,

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there in the bowl.

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That's such a shame because I think that would be worth

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-around £400-£500 without any damages.

-Do you?

-Yes, I do.

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I think an easy valuation of £200-£300 is a bit

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of a come-and-buy-me. The damage may hold it back.

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If we could put a reserve of £150 on this because of that split,

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-would you be happy?

-Yes. Yeah, that's fine.

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-And I think we could be in for a big surprise.

-Oh!

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-So, thank you so much.

-Oh, I'm just so pleased to know more about it.

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'Well, I can't wait for that to go under the hammer.

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What's wonderful about Norwich Cathedral is that

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while there are plenty of remnants from the past,

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the clergy have also installed some delightful modern pieces

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and they're in the most unexpected places.

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Before we shoot off to put those valuations to the test,

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there's something I want to show you.

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Now, you know we've seen a lot of cathedrals on "Flog It!"

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over the last 14 years and we've seen a lot of misericords,

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but there's one here with a bit of a difference.

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Now, a misericord is a little perch that monks would use

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and it's normally so high off the ground so they could sit there

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so it looks as if they're standing.

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It just takes the weight off their feet

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because they'd have to stand for hours on end.

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So, if I lift this lid up, you can see the little perch here.

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Now, that's what you lean against to take the weight off your feet.

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Look, footballers. Are they medieval footballers, you're probably asking.

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No, of course they're not. As part of the millennium,

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the clergy commissioned something a little bit different

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and these are Norwich City footballers,

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and there is their emblem, look, the badge of the Canaries.

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This was commissioned by a local artist.

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I hope he becomes very successful and also our next batch of owners.

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Let's hope they get top money in the saleroom.

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Here's a quick recap of what we're taking to auction.

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There's the model car built by Barbara's Uncle Tom

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that should bring the toy collectors racing for the finish line...

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..and Elizabeth's delightful trio of Continental pieces,

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which may be swapped for a rather expensive fashion accessory,

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and Lorraine's early christening spoon that's won my heart

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and should win the bidders' hearts, too.

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For our auction we're heading over to the Norfolk town of Diss.

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Set in this agricultural area,

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it's not surprising that they're selling everything

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from garden furniture to old farming equipment

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on this gloriously sunny day.

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But I'm interested in what's happening inside,

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where Ed Smith and Robert Kinsella are taking to the rostrum.

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And, don't forget, at this saleroom commission is 15%, including VAT.

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The first of our lots is the collection of Continental ceramics

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owned by Elizabeth.

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Why are you selling these now, Elizabeth?

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Because I live in a very small bungalow

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-and I'm getting old and... I'll have some money.

-You're decluttering?

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-You'd rather have the money?

-Yes.

-Bills to pay.

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-It's a fact of life, isn't it?

-No, a holiday to pay for.

-Oh, right.

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Where's your dream trip, then? Where would you like to go?

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I would like to go right the way across America on a Greyhound bus.

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You might get from New York to Philadelphia on this, maybe.

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-Knowing my luck.

-The clock is the best bit in this lot.

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I love the clock and I think that's what's going to sell it

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-cos it's lovely.

-Well, hopefully.

-OK, look, good luck.

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-But every penny helps on that trip.

-Well, yes.

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'And first on the rostrum is auctioneer Ed.'

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So, it's three pieces there you get.

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On this one I'm starting at 170. 170 I have. Is there 80?

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-They are pretty pieces, here...

-Come on.

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-..180, 190, 200...

-Oh, here we go. Yes!

-..220 I have.

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Is their 40? 240, 260, 280, 300,

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320, 340, 360. 360 it is.

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Is there 80? It's with commission here at £360 now. Where is the 80?

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We're selling for £360. Are we all done?

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-GAVEL BANGS

-Yes! £360.

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-360!

-That's going to help out, isn't it?

-Yes, it is.

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It's more than I expected.

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I can see you in a convertible, in a Chevy, Thelma and Louise.

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-Light blue!

-Take a girlfriend. Take a girlfriend.

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Elizabeth will hopefully be driving in something more sporty

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than our next lot.

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If you build it, we will flog it.

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Well, I certainly hope so with Barbara's little kit car.

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-It was Uncle Tom's, in fact, wasn't it?

-Yes.

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But dates from the early '40s and I think this has got to be

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one of the first little model kit cars you'd put together.

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I know it's had "played condition" written all over it

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but I think it's really, really good with this box.

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It's a great thing and, Paul, the instructions were so complicated.

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I don't know if you've ever tried to make anything like this.

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Yeah, it's hard.

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I couldn't have done it. I wonder if kids could do it today.

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-Uncle Tom did it, that's for sure.

-He did. Yes, we worked it out,

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he was 37 when he did it.

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That's right. So, he wasn't a lad, was he?

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No, he wasn't.

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81, then.

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I start straight in just below guide at 65. 65 I have.

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Who wants 70?

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-75, 85...

-Done it.

-Sold.

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..it is here at £95.

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Now, 100, 110,

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110 I still have. 110 I have.

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They shake their head at 110 now. Is there 20?

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I'm selling at £110. Are we done?

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-GAVEL BANGS Wonderful.

-Good.

-Yeah.

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Excellent. Well done and thank you for bringing that in

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cos that was a cracking little thing - a proper boy's toy.

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Oh, absolutely. Wonderful.

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'It's now time for the lot I've been waiting for,

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'Lorraine's carved sycamore christening spoon dating to 1671.'

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I love this spoon. It's a shame about the little crack in the bowl

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but hopefully the collectors will overlook that.

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We need a top bidder here right now.

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'And now it's Robert on the rostrum.'

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I've got good interest in this one. I do start in at 130. Take 140.

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At 140, 150, 160, 170.

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170 bid, here. I've lost you, back. We're at £170 now.

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180, 190,

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200, 220, 240...

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There's someone in the room. There's no-one online, unfortunately.

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-Oh, yeah, there is somebody.

-..going online at 260 bid.

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Is there 280? It's £260, the bid online.

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280 again. Still going.

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-300.

-Come on, come on.

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With 300 online then. We're still going. 340 back in then,

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online at 340. Is there 60 anywhere?

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360 is the bid.

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380. 400 with you?

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Online at £400, then.

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We're 420 now. We're 420 on the spoon.

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At £420 the bid online.

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At 420, fair warning, it will sell then at 420.

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-GAVEL BANGS

-Good result, wasn't it?

-Amazing.

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Damage held it back.

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-A lovely thing, though. An absolute real survivor. A real survivor.

-Yes.

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-1671.

-And thank you.

-You're welcome.

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-Thank you for looking after it, as well.

-Thank you.

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I love treen and that piece was really special.

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Judging from that result, I'm certain it's gone to a good home.

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Well, that's our first three lots done and dusted under the hammer.

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So far, so good.

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Now, while we were filming at Norwich Cathedral,

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I had the opportunity to film there without the crowds

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and I found something that casts a fascinating light

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on the medieval mind.

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When we visit a cathedral like Norwich, we're used to seeing

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the sculptures and the stained glass that were expressions of the clergy.

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It's often hard in great places of worship to feel

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you really hear the voice of the people, let alone the common man,

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but they did have their say. In fact, they left their mark.

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In order to see it, you need one of these.

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As your eye passes over the walls of the cathedral,

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you'll certainly see the normal wear and tear

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of a 900-year-old building. But that's not all.

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Now, if you get into all the recesses

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and up close to the stonework, something remarkable happens.

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Look, watch this. You have to shine a light onto it.

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All of a sudden, all of these scratches and cuts into the stone

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become little images. This is early graffiti.

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Look! This one's of a little house and it's actually dated 1634.

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And it's all over the cathedral, it's everywhere.

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They weren't put here by the monks but by the churchgoers themselves.

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To find out more about these fascinating images,

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I've met up with archaeologist Matthew Champion,

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who has looked at graffiti in churches all over Britain

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and is currently studying the ones here.

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So, why are you conducting a study here?

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Basically because it's absolutely full of early inscriptions

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and no-one's ever looked at them before

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so this is an entirely new resource,

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an entirely new corpus of medieval material that no-one's looked at.

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-Fresh to you.

-Absolutely.

-What's the average age group?

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The age of the graffiti... The earliest we've got dates back

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to about the 12th century, so near the beginning

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of the cathedral's building, and the most modern...

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-I suppose, well, probably about last month.

-Oh, really?

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-You've come across those?

-Absolutely.

-So recent.

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-What was the purpose?

-Well, in some cases

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it is literally that - leaving their mark on the wall

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but in other cases, particularly in places like Norwich Cathedral,

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it's a prayer, it's devotional.

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They are quite literally prayers made solid in stone.

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With well over 5,000 pieces of graffiti here,

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we're going to pick out a few that tell us more

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about those early churchgoers.

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Oh, yes. Look at that. I can see it.

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-It's the bow of a ship and I can see the mast and the sails.

-Absolutely.

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Why would someone scratch a sailing vessel on a wall?

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What we've got here is something that dates back to at least

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the 15th century and it's fairly typical of the trading vessels

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you would have seen coming all the way up the river here to Norwich.

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So, I suspect that this is actually devotional in nature

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-and it's probably done by one of the local merchants.

-Right, OK.

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And if you look down here... If you follow this line all the way down...

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-Right at the end, there...

-Look, I can see an anchor.

-Absolutely.

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We find these all over the place.

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Originally we thought they were just by the coast

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but now we're finding them many, many miles inland

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and we're pretty convinced that a lot of these are prayers.

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Whether they are a prayer for a safe voyage yet to come

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or thanksgiving for a safe voyage already undertaken,

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-we don't know.

-Powerful stuff.

-Powerful stuff.

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So, what place did prayer have in the life of the common man?

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Faith and prayer in the Middle Ages was absolutely crucial

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to the ordinary man in the street.

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It was a matter, literally, of eternal life or death.

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It was...whether to get on the wrong side of a rather cross

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and avenging God or to keep on His side.

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They were concerned not so much about everyday life

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but about their eternal destiny

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so acts of generosity, acts of piety, the way you behaved

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really had an influence on what was going to happen for ever.

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It just wasn't seafaring families that sought

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the blessing of the church.

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Even the rich local merchants came here to seek their blessing

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through their own graffiti.

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Essentially, a merchant's mark is kind of like

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the logo of the Middle Ages. It would have been used

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by a medieval merchant as his particular symbol.

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-It's branding.

-It is branding, absolutely.

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What we see here though is quite unusual.

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We see clusters of these all around the cathedral.

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So, in this area we've got this cluster of lots of different

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merchant marks in here and they all suggest that this

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-was an area of particular spiritual significance.

-This particular spot?

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Somewhere round here.

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Now, during the Middle Ages, merchants and their guilds

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supported things like alters and their own chantry chapels

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and things like that,

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-so they were paying for this area of the cathedral.

-Yes.

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It really was a mixture of religion and the merchant classes.

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Did the church mind all of this going on?

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I think, the evidence we've got so far is that these

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seem to have been accepted and acceptable.

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The church could have wiped these out at any time.

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It didn't. It left them here so it does rather suggest

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-it wasn't a problem.

-'Far from it.'

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As this artist impression shows,

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churches were painted in bright colours so the graffiti would have

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stood out for all to see and even the monks were at it,

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scratching out games in the cloisters

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and doodling musical phrases for their chants.

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But the graffiti here also had a more sombre purpose.

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Evil, as a force, was very much a feature of life in the Middle Ages

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because ill-health, things going wrong, bad luck,

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all could be attributed to some evil force.

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We get these just about everywhere that you find

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medieval graffiti inscriptions.

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Churches all over the country, from Scotland all the way down to Dorset.

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What's that all about? It's not Celtic, is it?

0:25:040:25:06

No. These are what we call witch marks or ritual protection marks,

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and they are very specifically designed to ward off evil.

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The medieval church was a very different church

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from the one we know today.

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Evil was all around them and these

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really are that front line in their defence against the devil.

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And that wards off devils and witches?

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Devils, witches and just the evil eye.

0:25:260:25:30

Wow, you are a graffiti detective, aren't you? It's very interesting.

0:25:300:25:34

That's just the day job.

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Blessings and curses were very much real things, tangible almost.

0:25:370:25:42

You wanted blessings, you wanted to accumulate blessings for your life,

0:25:420:25:46

your prosperity, your family, your health...

0:25:460:25:49

But the opposite of that, of course, was the curse.

0:25:490:25:53

And those curses were felt to be very real

0:25:530:25:55

and somebody who thought they'd been cursed would feel very, very upset

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and do all they could to counteract that.

0:25:590:26:03

Look at this. Now, this is a medieval curse.

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This relates to an old Norwich family, the Kaynffords.

0:26:060:26:10

It's written upside down and back to front so that tells us

0:26:100:26:13

it's a medieval curse. You can see it here, look.

0:26:130:26:16

We've got K-A-Y-N,

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double F in Kaynfford, O-R-D.

0:26:180:26:21

Kaynfford. This family have upset somebody

0:26:210:26:24

so they've scratched it there in the wall. "There, that's a curse.

0:26:240:26:28

"That will teach you." I wonder if they got their comeuppance.

0:26:280:26:31

As you look at these irregular grooves in the stonework,

0:26:390:26:41

you can really feel the presence of the common man over 900 years.

0:26:410:26:46

This has to be my favourite piece of graffiti in the whole cathedral.

0:26:490:26:53

Look at this, it was done in the 1580s

0:26:530:26:55

and it's a gentleman in his Sunday best!

0:26:550:26:58

Look, you can see his beard, he's got a thick beard.

0:26:580:27:00

His eyes have been really quite deeply gouged into the stone.

0:27:000:27:04

He's got a hat on, he's got a doublet, here, look,

0:27:040:27:07

buttons all the way down the breast front,

0:27:070:27:09

and here on his thighs you can see his hose billowing out.

0:27:090:27:13

This is wonderful. This is a gesture of sheer self-expression.

0:27:130:27:17

This is a chap proud of his new clothes.

0:27:170:27:20

Time to leave the graffiti behind now as we head back

0:27:350:27:37

to the main valuation tables, where David's found a box.

0:27:370:27:40

But what was in it?

0:27:400:27:42

-Hello, Phil.

-Hello.

-Do you know what the box was made for?

0:27:440:27:48

Well, presumably fairly small things. I couldn't tell you exactly what.

0:27:480:27:53

-Well, this is a glove box.

-OK.

0:27:530:27:55

It would have been made in about 1870, 1880, and it gives us

0:27:550:27:59

an indication of how important gloves were because it's lockable.

0:27:590:28:05

So, you put your gloves in there, locked the box

0:28:050:28:08

and put it on your sideboard. Now, you didn't hide it away

0:28:080:28:12

and of course you would advertise to people that you owned nice things,

0:28:120:28:17

in this case gloves, and then you contained them in a nice box.

0:28:170:28:21

It's all part of that Victorian thing about conspicuous consumption.

0:28:210:28:26

It was made in Tonbridge in Kent. Do you know that part of the world?

0:28:260:28:31

I was originally from Tonbridge. My parents bought it

0:28:310:28:33

as a memento of Tonbridge at the time they retired.

0:28:330:28:37

OK. Well, objects like this would have been exported

0:28:370:28:39

around the world and they are very collectable.

0:28:390:28:42

The way these things were made, in theory, was very simple

0:28:420:28:45

but in practice was actually quite complicated, really.

0:28:450:28:48

And the craftsmen would have assembled

0:28:480:28:51

a conglomeration of small sticks

0:28:510:28:55

arranged in a pattern, which they would then slice rather like salami.

0:28:550:29:00

So, you would find this particular piece of decoration is not unique.

0:29:000:29:03

There will be other boxes which have the same decoration.

0:29:030:29:06

It's not the best I've seen, and I don't mean to be rude about it,

0:29:070:29:11

but you do get some wonderful examples with buildings and castles,

0:29:110:29:15

cathedrals, and so on, on them and they are the most saleable,

0:29:150:29:19

but in its favour this box is in good condition

0:29:190:29:22

and it is a useful size.

0:29:220:29:26

Why do you want to sell it?

0:29:260:29:28

Well, I'm moving from a house to a bungalow

0:29:280:29:30

and there's lots of stuff which I don't have space for any more.

0:29:300:29:34

And you haven't got any nice gloves

0:29:340:29:36

-that you might have kept in it?

-No, I think hands my size,

0:29:360:29:38

nice gloves would look really silly, I think.

0:29:380:29:40

Well, that's a very interesting point. They are small, aren't they?

0:29:400:29:43

People's hands were smaller.

0:29:430:29:45

The market for these things comes and goes a bit.

0:29:450:29:48

It's not quite as strong now as it was ten years ago, I have to say.

0:29:480:29:51

-Nevertheless, I would expect this to make between £80 and £120.

-Really?

0:29:510:29:56

-OK.

-Is that OK by you?

-Yep, absolutely.

-Good.

0:29:560:29:58

Would you like a reserve put on it?

0:29:580:30:01

If you recommend one, then I'll follow your advice.

0:30:010:30:04

Well, every auctioneer likes to sell things without reserve

0:30:040:30:07

-so let's go for a no reserve sale in this instance.

-OK.

0:30:070:30:10

-It will make its money. I'm sure of that.

-Good.

0:30:100:30:13

Now, Kate's looking enamoured with her next item.

0:30:130:30:17

So, Catherine, you brought this fantastic little pendant in.

0:30:170:30:20

What can you tell me about it?

0:30:200:30:21

-I just liked it and I bought it at a Scouts' jumble sale.

-Boy Scouts?

0:30:210:30:25

-Boy Scouts' jumble sale.

-How long ago?

-About 30 years.

-OK.

0:30:250:30:30

Do you remember what you paid?

0:30:300:30:31

-About £2.

-£2?

0:30:310:30:33

Actually, that was quite a lot of money back then.

0:30:330:30:35

Well, I gave them money because my two sons were in the Scouts

0:30:350:30:40

-and one son now is a Scout leader.

-Is he?

0:30:400:30:43

-I tell you what, I am a Scout leader for my son's Boy Scouts.

-Are you?

0:30:430:30:47

It's not a good uniform but this thing is fabulous.

0:30:470:30:50

-So you've never worn it?

-No, never wore it.

-Right.

0:30:500:30:55

What it is, you've got this fabulous heart that's made of citrine,

0:30:550:30:58

so it's a type of quartz, and that's below.

0:30:580:31:01

It's really smooth, so it's like cabochon, it's called.

0:31:010:31:03

It's polished to a really high shine and then this is unmarked gold.

0:31:030:31:07

So, there's no markings but it's probably going to be Continental,

0:31:070:31:09

maybe 15 or 18-carat gold

0:31:090:31:12

-and then you've got little seed pearls, here.

-Yes.

0:31:120:31:15

They're natural freshwater pearls and then you've got

0:31:150:31:17

a little tiny emerald and a couple of the tiny rubies

0:31:170:31:20

all the way round the outside.

0:31:200:31:22

It's gorgeous. The quality is lovely.

0:31:220:31:24

-I mean, for £2 that's pretty impressive.

-Yes.

0:31:240:31:27

I never find things like that for £2. It's intriguing.

0:31:270:31:30

It's not the most fashionable of designs, it's quite fancy.

0:31:300:31:33

It's not going to be to everybody's taste

0:31:330:31:36

but I think it's about 1910, 1920s, something like that.

0:31:360:31:38

-Yes.

-It's quite good fun.

0:31:380:31:41

-Any idea price-wise what you think...?

-No.

-No?

-No.

0:31:410:31:44

Well, I'd like to see it, if it's going in auction,

0:31:440:31:47

maybe 80-120, something like that.

0:31:470:31:49

I think there will be collectors out there for it

0:31:490:31:51

and it's just such a gorgeous piece, it's really unusual.

0:31:510:31:54

We'd normally put a reserve just below the low estimate,

0:31:540:31:57

so if we put 80-120 estimate, we'd probably put a £60 reserve,

0:31:570:32:01

-so it wouldn't be sold for less than that.

-Would you be happy with that?

-Yes, I would.

0:32:010:32:04

Oh, OK. Well, should we flog it?

0:32:040:32:06

-Yes, flog it.

-Fingers crossed it's going to sail away.

0:32:060:32:09

Yeah. Thank you very much.

0:32:090:32:12

While the valuations are going on, I've stepped away

0:32:120:32:14

to find out more about an incredible local woman.

0:32:140:32:17

Edith Cavell became famous as the nurse who helped British soldiers

0:32:210:32:25

to escape from behind enemy lines during World War I.

0:32:250:32:29

Sadly, she was shot by a German firing squad

0:32:290:32:32

but she's remembered to this day for her bravery.

0:32:320:32:36

What's less well known is that she came from

0:32:360:32:38

the Norfolk village of Swardeston, where her father was a vicar

0:32:380:32:42

and she was a keen local painter as historian Nick Miller can tell us.

0:32:420:32:47

I never realised Edith was such a good artist.

0:32:470:32:51

In her youth she produced stuff like this.

0:32:510:32:54

It's incredibly mature for somebody to paint that in their youth.

0:32:540:32:59

I think it's very well executed. She's very talented.

0:32:590:33:02

Well, she sold pictures like this one to raise money

0:33:020:33:04

-for a Sunday school in the village.

-Gosh.

0:33:040:33:07

Fundraising at such an early age.

0:33:070:33:09

-I know. Amazing commitment.

-An absolutely incredible lady.

0:33:090:33:11

The connection with Norfolk continued after her death

0:33:150:33:18

and at her father's family's request she was buried right here

0:33:180:33:22

at Norwich Cathedral.

0:33:220:33:23

For me, part of her real importance is the fact that she's here,

0:33:260:33:32

in the cathedral and that is because she's a very fine Christian woman.

0:33:320:33:36

She was raised in a Victorian vicarage

0:33:360:33:39

but this faith of hers really is the answer as to

0:33:390:33:43

why did she put her neck on the line for all those months.

0:33:430:33:47

Nine months she was literally living in fear of her life.

0:33:470:33:50

Why did she do it? Because her Christian faith drove her to that.

0:33:500:33:53

So it's very fitting that she's buried here

0:33:530:33:55

in this marvellous cathedral.

0:33:550:33:57

I'm with you all the way on that.

0:33:570:33:59

It's exactly the right place for her

0:33:590:34:02

and we are deeply proud of her as Norfolk people.

0:34:020:34:05

Back inside, our experts have been going apace,

0:34:120:34:15

meeting more of the people of Norfolk

0:34:150:34:17

with their antiques and collectables,

0:34:170:34:20

and Kate has come across something pretty special.

0:34:200:34:23

Well, Anne and Paul, you've brought a ravishing little box in today.

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Well, it was my mother's and she was given it to her by a lady

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-who she worked for.

-Ah, OK. What, as a gift?

0:34:310:34:35

-Yeah, she just gave it to her as a present.

-Wow. OK.

0:34:350:34:38

-But you don't know any more about it?

-No.

0:34:380:34:40

Did you try and look up the hallmark, cos it is silver?

0:34:400:34:43

-Yes, I did look up the hallmark, yes.

-And what did you come up with?

0:34:430:34:46

-It said Birmingham...

-Yep.

-..and the WHH...

-That's the maker's mark.

0:34:460:34:53

Now, that's a bit of a mystery and I'll be honest,

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I don't know who WHH is, so without knowing the artist,

0:34:550:34:59

so to speak, the date, which we know from the hallmarks, is 1898

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and that puts it right in the middle of Art Nouveau period.

0:35:030:35:05

It's fabulous. Do you like it?

0:35:050:35:09

-Yes, I liked it.

-You like it?

0:35:090:35:11

I think... The little lady, I think she's lovely,

0:35:110:35:13

but I don't like the feet.

0:35:130:35:15

-You don't like the feet?

-No.

-She is lovely. The detail is lovely.

0:35:150:35:19

You can see the way the hair is individually painted

0:35:190:35:21

with individual little single hairs. And one way of also looking at

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the good quality is how well the hands are done,

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and then the little cheeks and the eyes and the features

0:35:270:35:30

-are lovely on her.

-Yes.

-So, it's quite nice.

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You've got a name, here, Volney, which again I'm not sure.

0:35:320:35:35

That's probably Continental so it's quite likely that the roundel

0:35:350:35:38

was made in the Continent and then was united with an English box

0:35:380:35:41

-and put together.

-Oh, I see.

-But it's a gorgeous thing.

0:35:410:35:45

Then you've got all these lovely raised...

0:35:450:35:48

-I think they're poppies on the top.

-Oh, are they?

0:35:480:35:50

Well, think so. And they've got these brilliant legs.

0:35:500:35:53

Look, these great big scrolling legs.

0:35:530:35:56

Really cool. I've never seen that design quite like that on anything.

0:35:560:36:00

I think it's brilliant.

0:36:000:36:02

I think price-wise you're talking...

0:36:020:36:06

maybe £400-£500.

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Maybe upwards of that. It's difficult to say exactly

0:36:080:36:10

without more research but is that the kind of figure you'd be happy to sell it for?

0:36:100:36:14

-Yes, I think so, yes.

-If we put a reserve at 400

0:36:140:36:17

and a 400-500 estimate and hope they do a bit more research

0:36:170:36:20

at the saleroom and give it a go.

0:36:200:36:23

-Lovely.

-OK.

-Great. OK. Well, thank you for bringing it in.

0:36:230:36:27

'Let's see what the saleroom can unearth about the maker

0:36:270:36:30

'of that very elegant box.'

0:36:300:36:33

Before we head off to auction for the last time,

0:36:330:36:36

I want to show you how people are still weaving their interpretations

0:36:360:36:39

of faith into the very fabric of this building.

0:36:390:36:42

These stained glass windows were installed in 2014

0:36:420:36:46

by the renowned Scottish artist John McLean.

0:36:460:36:49

They're dedicated to the Holy Trinity.

0:36:490:36:52

'The windows were conceived as a celebration of God.

0:36:540:36:57

'The nine colours are dissected by vertical beams

0:36:570:37:01

'that point heavenwards to reflect the cathedral's dedication

0:37:010:37:05

'to the mystery of the Trinity.'

0:37:050:37:06

What a fitting end to our day here at Norwich Cathedral,

0:37:080:37:12

an architectural splendour shaped by the hands of many people

0:37:120:37:16

over 900 years.

0:37:160:37:18

We're off to auction now and here's a quick recap

0:37:180:37:20

of what we're taking with us.

0:37:200:37:23

Phil is selling an old Victorian glove box,

0:37:230:37:25

but will it appeal to a modern buyer?

0:37:250:37:27

There's Catherine's citrine pendant bought at a Scout jumble sale.

0:37:290:37:32

But will the bidders be prepared, as the motto goes,

0:37:320:37:35

when it comes up for sale?

0:37:350:37:36

And there's Anne and Paul's mystery Art Nouveau box,

0:37:390:37:42

with the elegant lady on top. Will it get an elegant price at auction?

0:37:420:37:46

Back at the saleroom, we're about to learn the fate

0:37:500:37:53

of the Tunbridge Ware glove box owned by Phil.

0:37:530:37:57

We've seen Tunbridge Ware on the show before and it's quality,

0:37:570:38:00

isn't it? I love that micro-mosaic work.

0:38:000:38:03

-I think the valuation is spot on.

-I hope so, Paul.

0:38:030:38:06

I must say, this sort of thing doesn't sell

0:38:060:38:09

quite as well as it did, as we all know.

0:38:090:38:11

No, it was incredibly popular, especially if it was

0:38:110:38:13

late 18th-century, the Burrows family.

0:38:130:38:16

-They set this whole thing up.

-This is relatively late.

0:38:160:38:19

Nevertheless, it's a good example of what Tunbridge Ware is all about.

0:38:190:38:22

-It's a representative piece, isn't it?

-Yes. Good luck.

0:38:220:38:25

-Thank you.

-We're going to put it to the test right now.

0:38:250:38:27

It's going under the hammer.

0:38:270:38:29

Right, lot 101.

0:38:290:38:31

This is pretty and on this one it's below guide by starting at £50.

0:38:310:38:35

50 I have. 5, 60, 65 I have.

0:38:350:38:37

Where's 70? That is Tunbridge Ware...

0:38:390:38:41

-There's no reserve.

-Is there 70?

0:38:410:38:43

We will be selling at the £65. Are we all done?

0:38:430:38:46

-GAVEL BANGS

-It's gone. That was short and sweet.

0:38:470:38:50

-One bid, £65.

-OK.

-That's OK, isn't it? You were happy with that?

0:38:500:38:53

-There was no reserve.

-I'm glad you agreed not to put a reserve on that

0:38:530:38:56

because we're here to sell things, at the end of the day, aren't we?

0:38:560:38:59

-And we sold it so that's always what we want.

-Fantastic. Thank you.

0:38:590:39:03

'Our next lot is Catherine's heart-shaped citrine pendant

0:39:030:39:07

'bought for £2 at a Boy Scouts' jumble sale.'

0:39:070:39:11

-It's a semiprecious stone, isn't it, citrine?

-It's lovely. It's really pretty.

0:39:110:39:14

I would buy this myself cos I think this is pretty.

0:39:140:39:17

I understand you put the value on this but why is a semiprecious stone

0:39:170:39:21

like that worth so little? Cos it's so beautiful.

0:39:210:39:23

It's semiprecious so there's quite a lot of it around.

0:39:230:39:25

It's not an unusual rock. It's not like a pink diamond or something.

0:39:250:39:28

So, there's a lot of it around but it's a beautifully crafted thing.

0:39:280:39:32

-It's got those tiny little inset pearls.

-It's beautiful.

0:39:320:39:34

-OK, let's find out what the bidders think, shall we?

-Yes.

-Ready?

0:39:340:39:38

-Ready for this?

-I promise to do my best.

0:39:380:39:40

You are a Boy Scout, aren't you?

0:39:400:39:42

-A Boy Scout leader, for my boys, yes.

-Yes.

0:39:420:39:45

Yes, I should have said that, a Boy Scout leader.

0:39:450:39:47

-I'm not actually a Boy Scout.

-Right, OK. Good luck, both of you.

0:39:470:39:49

Here we go.

0:39:490:39:52

A lovely, pretty piece, this.

0:39:520:39:54

Bids are in and they'll start me top end at 120. I'll take 130.

0:39:540:39:58

120 is the bid now. Is there 130?

0:39:580:40:00

140, 150, 160, 170,

0:40:000:40:03

180, 190, 200,

0:40:030:40:05

-220, 240,

-SHE GASPS

0:40:050:40:07

-260, 280...

-280!

-300, 320...

0:40:070:40:11

With £320 the bid. As you see it, there.

0:40:110:40:13

At £320. Fair warning, it will sell at 320.

0:40:130:40:16

-GAVEL BANGS

-The hammer has gone down.

0:40:160:40:19

-Lovely.

-£320.

-It was a cautious estimate.

0:40:190:40:23

-Of course it was, yes.

-Yes.

-Thank you.

0:40:230:40:25

Hey, you're happy, aren't you?

0:40:250:40:27

-Yes, I am.

-And I'm happy and so is Kate.

0:40:270:40:29

-That's the main thing, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:40:290:40:31

'Onto our final item - the Art Nouveau box

0:40:310:40:34

'hallmarked WHH, Birmingham.

0:40:340:40:36

'Auctioneer Ed has been finding out more about it.

0:40:370:40:41

'The WHH stands for the reputed silversmith

0:40:410:40:44

'William Hair Haseler, who created silverware in the Art Nouveau style.

0:40:440:40:49

'He worked with a top designer, Archibald Knox,

0:40:490:40:52

'for the famous London department store Liberty.'

0:40:520:40:56

It's the name of the maker who is important on this one

0:40:560:40:58

and the style of it. There are links with Liberty

0:40:580:41:01

and also therefore there's links with Archibald Knox.

0:41:010:41:04

Basically, Haseler used to produce a lot of Archibald Knox designs.

0:41:040:41:09

That in itself is enough to basically make it do well.

0:41:090:41:12

'So, let's see if the link to Liberty will help

0:41:140:41:16

'Anne and Paul's little box sail away.'

0:41:160:41:19

It sits proud, it says, "Look at me, I'm so important."

0:41:220:41:25

And I think it is.

0:41:250:41:28

Look, fingers crossed, I think you've pitched this right

0:41:280:41:30

but I hope it doubles that. I hope it doubles your top end.

0:41:300:41:34

Every auctioneer hopes it doubles top end.

0:41:340:41:36

-Of course they do, but that's what it's all about.

-It's a lovely thing.

0:41:360:41:39

It is brilliant and it's going under the hammer now.

0:41:390:41:42

It's the William Hair Haseler silver box. Arts and Crafts

0:41:430:41:46

and Nouveau form, and the enamel portrait, there.

0:41:460:41:49

-And interest here does start me straight in at £400.

-Oh, good.

0:41:490:41:53

I'll take 20. £400 is bid on the box.

0:41:530:41:56

420, 440, 460, 480, 500,

0:41:560:42:00

550, 600 bid. I'm out. 600 bid. Is there 50 now? 650...

0:42:000:42:06

650 at the back. 700...

0:42:060:42:09

-Keep going.

-..750, 800, 850...

0:42:090:42:12

900, 950, 1,000,

0:42:140:42:19

1,100, 1,200,

0:42:190:42:23

1,300,

0:42:230:42:26

-1,400, 1,500...

-Oh, my gosh.

-No!

0:42:260:42:28

We're in the room at £1,500. Is there 1,600 anywhere else?

0:42:310:42:34

The net's quiet. We're at £1,500. Is there any advance?

0:42:340:42:38

-GAVEL BANGS

-£1,500.

-Wow!

-Told you.

0:42:380:42:42

-Look, that was special.

-Oh, my God.

0:42:420:42:44

-That was special. What a surprise for you two.

-Yes.

0:42:440:42:47

-You'd have taken 500 quid, wouldn't you?

-Yes.

-Yes.

0:42:470:42:49

I should have offered you 500 at the valuation day and had it. Darn it!

0:42:490:42:54

-Look, thank you so much for bringing that in.

-Thank you.

-It's a lot of money.

0:42:540:42:57

There is 15% commission including the VAT to pay on that

0:42:570:42:59

-but you're going home with a lot of money.

-Brilliant.

-How much was it?

0:42:590:43:04

-£1,500 on the hammer.

-I can't believe it.

0:43:040:43:08

-That's auctions for you.

-My heart was going.

-That was so exciting!

0:43:080:43:11

That's auctions for you. What a wonderful "Flog It!" moment

0:43:110:43:14

and what a way to end today's show coming from Norfolk.

0:43:140:43:17

We've had a wonderful time at the cathedral

0:43:170:43:19

and we've topped it off here in Diss with £1,500 for Anne and Paul.

0:43:190:43:22

I hope you enjoyed the show. See you again soon for many more surprises.

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