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This is Sandon Hall, just a few miles south of Stoke,

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once the famous capital of Britain's world-class pottery industry.

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So, today, "Flog It!" has the Staffordshire stamp of approval.

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Welcome to the show.

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Sandon Hall is a grand imposing mansion in the Jacobean style.

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But it's not as old as it looks.

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It was built in 1852 after the previous hall burnt down

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when a blowtorch was left on the roof.

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So, if it wasn't the fire that gave the exterior

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its chargrilled effect, what did?

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The blackened stonework of Sandon Hall is down to the smoke

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and the soot billowing out from the thousands of kilns

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from the nearby Stoke potteries in years gone by.

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It's not just pottery Staffordshire is famous for.

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For many years, it was the country's capital of shoe-making.

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And stepping out in their fancy footwear today

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are experts Christina Trevanion...

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-I love that. Are you thinking of selling that?

-No.

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-Have you ever had a good cup of tea from it?

-Er, no.

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-..and Charles Hanson.

-Wow, it's like a treasure map, isn't it?

-Yes.

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-I found your dentist.

-Oh, goodness me! Goodness me! Oh, my goodness me.

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-There's an improvement there somewhere.

-There we go, there we go.

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Later in the show,

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a family story breathes life into some homespun relics.

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-He brought them home for my mother.

-Oh.

-And this little girl...

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-Just gorgeous, isn't she?

-..has real hair.

-Yeah.

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Charles comes face to face with a true Moorcroft original.

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You're no relation, are you, to the great man William?

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-I am, I'm his son.

-And there are surprises in the auction room.

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You're William Moorcroft's son!

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Oh, brilliant. There you go. Straightaway.

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And I visit nearby Shugborough Hall

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to hear about a dramatic voyage round the world.

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It's a terrifying story

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of endurance and survival against all odds.

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Well, everyone's now safely seated inside this magnificent house

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and, as you can see,

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we have literally taken over the whole of the ground floor.

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We need to find some treasures of our own to take off to auction,

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so let's make a start and it's straight over to Christina's table.

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Sister Marie, this is really rather beautiful,

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this item that you've brought in to me today.

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Can you tell me a bit about it, where it's come from?

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-Well, I think it was my dad's 21st birthday present.

-Oh!

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-Probably in the 1920s.

-Oh, fantastic.

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And we just always had it at home

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and it was in a drawer upstairs in the dressing table

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and when we were children, we'd get it out and we'd play with it

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and the watch - it did have a watch with it - as far as I can remember,

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-it never went, so this is all that remains of it.

-Oh, really?

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-So, where's the watch gone?

-I've no idea.

-Oh.

-No idea.

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We're displaying it like a necklace here, on this stand here.

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But you're absolutely right -

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-originally, it would have been made for a watch.

-Yes.

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It's what we call a watch albert

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and this is a particularly nice example

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cos it's what we call a double watch albert,

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so rather than just having one strand that you'd attach

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to your waistcoat, using this little T-bar here

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and then the clip here would have the watch,

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it's got two, so you'd wear it in the centre

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and then two loops either side,

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so you'd have probably your vesta case on one side

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-to hold your matches and your watch on the other.

-Right.

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So, it's a particularly nice example

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-because it's what we call a double watch albert.

-I didn't know that.

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And ladies use them today as necklaces,

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so the thing that I love about this particular piece is,

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if we look at each of these what we call curb link chains -

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that's the shape of the curb -

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every single one, every single one is hallmarked.

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-Whoa.

-And they are just miniscule.

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Can you imagine being the assayer that had to do that -

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-stamp every single link with this wonderful mark?

-My goodness.

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And the date mark that's on it is for Chester, 1923.

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That would be about right for my dad.

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-Does that tie in with dad's 21st birthday present?

-Yes.

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-Oh, fantastic. So, it's all adding up, isn't it? It's wonderful.

-Yes.

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But what you might not realise is that this little fob

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-at the bottom here...

-Yes.

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-..and this albert didn't start life together.

-Oh, did they not?

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They were poles apart. This was assayed in Birmingham

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-in 19...I think 21.

-Yes.

-And this was assayed in Chester in 1923.

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-Right.

-So it might have been that he was given this maybe slightly later

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or maybe as a separate gift. But they didn't start life together.

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-Right.

-And, again, that's in nine-carat gold.

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It's got a lovely maker's mark for Joseph Gloster & Sons

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and he made a lot of these little medallions and fobs.

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-So would you wear it today?

-No! I couldn't.

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I'm a religious sister, so I can't wear that kind of jewellery.

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So, is this something that you're thinking you might want to sell?

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-Yes, please.

-OK. So, I've had a bit of a weigh of it.

-Yes.

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The fact that it's Chester and it's a nice early one really do add

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to that value but we do have to use the weight as a basis to go off.

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And the weight would indicate a value

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-of between £200 and £300 at auction.

-Mmm-hmm.

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-How do you feel about that?

-Go ahead, please.

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-Would that be all right?

-Mmm-hmm.

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So, if we enter it into auction at £200 to £300,

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perhaps with a reserve of £200,

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cos it shouldn't go for any less than that, really.

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-It's definitely worth at least £200.

-Yes.

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The money actually will be going to a charity

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because we've got lots of sisters out in Peru and Nicaragua.

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-Oh, fantastic.

-I've been there.

-Oh, wow!

-Yes, I have.

-You pioneer, you.

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And also, Zimbabwe and I've been to Zimbabwe, too,

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mainly working with children out there, just playing with them

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because they just needed somebody just to be with them.

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It sounds like the money will be going to a fantastic cause.

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-A very good cause.

-I'm so pleased.

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Let's hope we get lots of money on auction day.

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Gold never goes out of fashion

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and neither, for that matter, does silver.

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Now, tell me, whose is it?

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-Mine.

-Nick, what?

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Well, we're married, so I suppose it's both of ours, isn't it?

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Who found it? Is it a family heirloom?

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No, I found it on my travels, a sort of bric-a-brac shop, I think it was.

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-Really? In a bric-a-brac shop?

-A few years ago.

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-I think I paid about £25 for it.

-Wonderful.

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-And tell me, Kim, do you like it?

-No.

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-Are we talking about this or...about my husband?

-About the object.

-No.

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-Really?

-No.

-Really?

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Because what we've got here is a punch ladle

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and if you were a Georgian dandy or a Georgian gent,

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living in, I'm sure, a house like Sandon, back in that period,

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of the age of George III, the 1780s, 1790s,

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this ladle may have been on your table to serve punch with.

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What is really interesting is, first and foremost,

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it has that exotic whalebone handle that's been twisted and worked.

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There's no hallmarks but we know, even without testing,

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it will be silver, because the quality

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and the look of the period was often,

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one would place a coin and inset it into the base.

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Why would they put a coin in there?

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For luck, for charm, for interest

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and, whilst this ladle dates to around 1785,

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this actual coin on the inside is King James II.

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-It's a groat. Now, test your history, Kim.

-Don't.

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-When was King James II on the throne?

-1600 and something.

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-1680, Kim.

-You're right.

-1680?

-He only ruled for four years.

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He was on the throne from 1685

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to the Glorious, what we call the Revolution, of William III of 1689.

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And what's quite nice is the coin within has a value too

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and this is a groat, or a fourpence, which, perhaps, in that time,

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would have bought you an ale and maybe a bag of nuts as well.

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-Not bad!

-In that context of that period.

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This was made perhaps ten years before the French Revolution.

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It was made when mad King George III was king of England.

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It has such history and that's why I love it. What a great find!

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-You had a great eye.

-Good.

-Yeah.

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-Is it something you're thinking of flogging today?

-Mmm.

-Really?

-Mmm.

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-What's it worth?

-A fiver.

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-Really?

-No, I don't know.

-Hopefully, an absolute fortune!

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I think your investment's been very good.

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I think you bought really well because I would like to put it

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into a sale with a guide price of between £50 and £80.

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So, we're going to double up, Nick, on what you paid for it.

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A reserve at £50, with discretion, so if we get a bid of £45,

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with 10% discretion, we have your blessing to sell it.

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It's in good condition. I'm hoping it will do quite well.

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-OK, great.

-Excellent.

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Fabulous craftsmanship and a unique item.

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There's not many of us who haven't seen the stage production

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or the movie of War Horse.

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It's an emotional story about a young boy called Albert

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and his intense relationship with his horse, Joey,

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which was requisitioned to fight during the First World War.

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This is Christ Church, Sandon Hall's war horse.

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He belonged to the 6th Earl and, together,

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they fought in and survived the First World War.

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Caroline Sandon, the current Countess of Harrowby,

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knows all about him.

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Christ Church means so much to me because the horses, I don't know...

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Now they are being celebrated but, at the time, they gave so much

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and I don't know if you know, but at the end of the First World War,

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-a lot of them were left in France and shot.

-Yes, they were.

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And to me, it's a complete tragedy,

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so I'd love to tell you a bit about him.

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-This is a good story, though, isn't it?

-This has got a happy ending.

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He was a front liner, on the front line, seeing action all the time.

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All the time, every day, for four years.

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He was actually caught in no-man's-land

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-at least three or four times.

-Gosh!

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I know, and the fact is you can see he's not a thoroughbred,

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thank goodness, because he was very stoic.

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When horses were scattering, as you can imagine,

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in the turmoil and the carnage, he stood stock still and sort of said,

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-"Come and get me," you know.

-Saved his life, didn't he?

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-He saved his life a thousand times.

-And he survived that Great War.

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He survived. Conroy's grandfather paid a farmer in France to keep him

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and said, "I will not shoot my horse.

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"I'm going back to England, please look after him."

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He got back to England and in 1919,

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he couldn't bear being without Christ Church.

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He went to France, he found him in a field,

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starving to death, I might add. He then chartered a boat,

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and brought him back and Christ Church lived for many more years.

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-And in the end, he had an obituary in the Times.

-Did he?

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Yeah, the only horse, as far as I know, apart from Red Rum,

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who had an obituary in the Times. So, it's quite marvellous.

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-And he pulled these long faces, of which you can see one there.

-Yes.

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-He looks a grumpy so-and-so.

-He does.

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But he just adored his master

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and he wouldn't do anything for anyone else except Lord Harrowby.

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-I'm pleased you've told me that.

-It's marvellous, isn't it?

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I think it's rather fitting that he's here.

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I think he's quite magnificent.

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Continuing the theme,

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Christina hears another story of bravery from Trish.

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-These were my granddad's...

-Mmm-hmm.

-..from the First World War.

-Mmm-hmm.

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-These three here were made by a prisoner of war or him.

-Right, OK.

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-And it does say, "Prisoner" on the spoon.

-Isn't that fascinating?

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Those were his medals from the First World War.

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-So these are grandfather's?

-Yes.

-Great, OK.

-William Sewell.

-OK.

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And this is the box that the medals came home in.

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First World War medals are always named, so we can always tell,

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which is interesting, who received them and what rank they were,

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-what number they were, etc.

-Yes.

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And if we look around this one here, we've got "Middlesex Regiment"

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or "Midd' X R", which is Middlesex Regiment.

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And what I think is particularly lovely -

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obviously, we can track him down - but it's got Middlesex Regiment

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on the top of this really sweet little pokerwork box.

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This is what we call "pokerwork" because the embellishments

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were done with a red-hot poker to make it easier to mould.

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So that wouldn't be a prisoner of war then?

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Not necessarily. That could have been done later.

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It may have been but it's very, very fine,

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so I'd say that he maybe made it to put his medals in.

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-Was HE a prisoner of war?

-Yes, he was a prisoner of war.

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So, did he make these items?

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I'm not sure whether he actually made all of the items

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-or whether another prisoner of war with him made the items...

-OK.

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..for him, for my mother.

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-And they traded them or something like that, potentially.

-Yeah.

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-He brought them home for my mother.

-Oh.

-And this little girl...

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That dolly is just gorgeous.

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-..has real hair made of leather with lead shoes.

-Oh, wonderful!

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And I was given this when I was very tiny. I've been playing with that...

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-Well, not now, but...

-But that's pretty special

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cos when poor old grandfather was sitting in his prisoner of war camp,

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he was obviously whiling away the hours making items

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and thinking about his daughter...

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-Yes.

-..which is really sweet, isn't it?

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This, to me, is the one that stands out a bit.

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I don't really know what that's for. It's rather lovely, isn't it?

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-It's a lot of work gone into it.

-Yes, and it's a little purse.

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And it was complete when I first received it.

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I don't know how it's got broken over the years

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-and there was two of them.

-Ah.

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So I guess another one was given to another member of the family.

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This one I think is wonderful.

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We've got "Turkish prisoner" on the spoon

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-and it's a folding spoon, isn't it?

-It is.

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So, he would have put this in his pocket

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-and used it in the prisoner of war camp.

-Yes.

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And I do think, to have that is really quite wonderful.

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But we have to think commercially

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-and we have to think what would they fetch.

-Yes.

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If we look at any of these items here in isolation,

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there's not a huge amount of value here, to be perfectly honest,

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but as a collection of your grandfather's

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and with that story behind it,

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that is lovely and that makes it, for me.

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It's so important to have that provenance

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-because that, by itself, would just be a little doll.

-Yes.

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That folding spoon, by itself, is just a folding spoon.

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It's not going to be of that sort of gravitas

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-that you've just explained, with the story to it.

-Right.

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So, I think we should be looking at £60 to £100.

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What's your thoughts about offering them at £60 to £100?

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-I didn't know their value. I was hoping for around £80.

-OK.

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-But I won't put a reserve on it.

-You just want it to go?

-Yes.

-OK.

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I want them to go to someone who'll appreciate them,

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-rather than be under the bed.

-Is that where they are?

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-Under the bed in a suitcase.

-Oh, my goodness!

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Well, I think they WOULD go to somebody who appreciated them

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and especially because we're in the centenary years of World War I...

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-Yes.

-..there is certainly going to be that interest.

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Well, you've just seen them -

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three wonderful items to take off to auction.

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I've got my favourites, you've probably got yours but, right now,

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we're going to put those valuations to the test in front of the bidders.

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Anything can happen.

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This is where it gets exciting and we're going to leave you

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with a quick rundown of all the items we're taking with us.

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Sister Marie's solid gold watch chain

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and fob will make a unique necklace.

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This pretty punch ladle is a shining example

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of 18th-century craftsmanship

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and I love the added touch of the coin in the bowl.

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And finally, this modest collection of items revealed

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the poignant story of one man's experience of war.

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For our sale today,

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we've headed west to the Roman market town of Shrewsbury,

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a place with an illustrious history and, fingers crossed,

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we can make some history of our very own today,

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here at Halls auction rooms.

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I'm going inside to catch up with our owners

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because I know they're feeling nervous right now.

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You sit back and enjoy this because anything could happen.

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On the rostrum is Jeremy Lamond

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and the commission today is 19% plus VAT.

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Right now, it's time for our first item - Sister Marie's watch chain.

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It's great to see you again and who've you brought along with you?

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-Sister Therese.

-Oh, hello.

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-Now, you've been out in Africa for a long, long time.

-I have, yes.

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And the proceeds of this gold albert chain are going to...?

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-To the mission work of the Sisters.

-And some of that will go to Africa?

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-I should think so, yes.

-OK.

-I hope so!

-Good luck, both of you.

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-Gold prices have gone up since the valuation day.

-They have, yes.

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We initially had £200 to £300 on this, now we're looking

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at a fixed reserve of £300, we're looking for £300 to £500.

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Looking at the weight of the albert, it should fetch that,

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so keeping everything crossed for you, ladies.

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-Happy, everyone?

-Yes.

-Lovely.

-Right.

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230 is the Edwardian nine-carat gold watch chain with T-bar

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and Maltese cross-formed fob. Chester hallmark.

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I'm bid £280.

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At 280. 280. 290.

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300. At £300 now.

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-At £300. Selling at 300.

-AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL

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-Yes, £300!

-It sold for £300. That's great!

-That's good, isn't it?

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Well done, girls - all three of you.

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-Congratulations, that's wonderful.

-Ah.

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A superior result there for the Sisters.

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And next up is Nick and Kim's exquisite 18th-century punch ladle.

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I used to buy stuff like this. You never use it and you think...

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You go to a bric-a-brac shop and you think,

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"That's so undervalued, I want to buy it, it's full of history,

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it's beautifully made, I'm going to buy it."

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And you get it home and you don't know what to do with it.

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-Was that the case?

-It was just a quality item.

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-And you can't let it go, can you?

-I can't help myself.

-No, nor can I.

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You have to caress these things, hold them, then you feel history.

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-So interesting, so revealing.

-Yeah.

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Fingers crossed, we can double your money right now.

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-That's what we're aiming for, isn't it?

-I've every confidence, Charles.

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-Thank you very much.

-I haven't!

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THEY LAUGH

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Lot 35, the white metal whalebone handle toddy ladle,

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inset with a James II fourpence.

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At 25. £35. At 35.

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40, where? At £35. At 35.

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40. 5. At £45.

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-50, where? At £45, are we all finished?

-One more.

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-At £45. Last chance. 50 on the internet.

-Yes!

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-Bottom estimate, bottom estimate.

-At £50.

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-Selling then at £50.

-AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL

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£50. You've doubled your money. I think that's a really good result.

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-Don't forget there is commission to pay, sadly.

-That's bad.

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That's bad. But we all have to pay that, don't we?

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A small but healthy profit for Nick to invest in more antiques.

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And now it's Trish's World War I memorabilia.

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So, why are you selling these?

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-They've been in the family a long time.

-Yes.

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They've also been under the bed in a suitcase for a long time.

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-Oh, I didn't know that. That's where they've been, right?

-Yes.

-Hiding.

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Gosh, hiding. Well, I'm not surprised you're selling.

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It's a very hard thing to value.

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We've had prisoner of war memorabilia on the show before

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and we've had many surprises,

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-especially with the Turkish beadwork.

-Mmm.

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We could get a surprise but I don't want to big your hopes up

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-because it is a hard thing.

-It is. We put £60 to £100 on it.

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-Yes.

-And we had no reserve on it.

-That's right.

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-And now there is a reserve. You've had a chat to the auction room?

-Yes.

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You now want a £70 reserve, so that's now fixed at £70.

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-We've got to make £70.

-Yes.

0:19:410:19:43

The collection of war memorabilia. 1914, '18.

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At £40 now. At 40. 5.

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50. 5. 60. 5.

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70. £75, new place.

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At £75. 80, where? At £75.

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-And I'm selling it at £75.

-AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL

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Hammer's gone down at 75. Well done, Christina. Good valuation.

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-Well done. Brilliant.

-Thank you for bringing those in.

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-You're welcome.

-It was a fascinating story.

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Well, that's our first three lots under the hammer.

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Time for a break and a change of scenery

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and Staffordshire is such a beautiful county.

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Shugborough Hall, the ancestral home of the Anson family,

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is set in a vast estate of beautifully landscaped grounds

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and it's a fitting backdrop to the incredible career

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of one of its 18th-century sons.

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Mucking about with boats rates pretty highly

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on my list of things to do.

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I just love it - something I've probably got in common

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with a young boy who grew up here

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and probably played at this very spot.

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He grew up to sail real ships across real oceans.

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In fact, he became only the second Englishman

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to circumnavigate the world.

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His name is George Anson and he grew up here at Shugborough.

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He was born in 1697.

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It was his elder brother Thomas

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who would inherit the family title and estates,

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so like all second sons, George had to seek other employment.

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So he joined the Royal Navy at the age of 14,

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quickly working his way up the ranks

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to his first command, at the young age of 22,

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on a ship called the Weasel.

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Fortunately, this dreadful name for a vessel

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didn't affect the rest of his career.

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Eventually, he became First Lord of the Admiralty.

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But it was his epic voyage around the world in 1740

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for which he is most remembered.

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At the time of Anson's voyage around the world in 1740,

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Britain was engaged in a brutal and bloodthirsty war at sea with Spain.

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The aim was to weaken Spain's dominance

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over the trading markets of South America

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and, in doing so, give us greater access to its natural resources,

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its precious metals, particularly silver.

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The fleet that set sail from England under Anson's command

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consisted of six warships, led by his flagship, HMS Centurion,

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a formidable fighting ship capable of heavy-duty firepower.

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But this was no ordinary military campaign.

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Anson's orders, delivered to him on behalf of King George II,

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included instructions for a secret mission -

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to attack a Spanish treasure ship, laden with Peruvian silver,

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as it made its way across the Pacific from Acapulco.

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But between them and those spoils of war

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lay the tempestuous seas of Cape Horn...

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..notorious for foul weather, violent gales and thunderous waves.

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Battered by relentless storms,

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two of Anson's ships turned back to England.

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Their captains were later to face charges for desertion.

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A third ship was washed up onto the rocks

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off an island off the coast of Chile.

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When Anson finally reached China, he was left with one vessel,

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the Centurion, and a handful of men,

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some of whom, it was noted, had turned mad.

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Returning to England under these disastrous circumstances

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would have certainly marked the end of his naval career.

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Now, whether Anson's next decision was one of pure genius

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or sheer desperation, it's impossible to tell,

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but he decides to have one last attempt

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at catching up with the Spanish treasure ship

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as it was crossing the Pacific from Acapulco to Manila.

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Despite being in a patched-up ship with a crew of just over 200 men,

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half the size of a normal crew,

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Anson had the self-belief and the determination

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to command his crew to capture the Spanish vessel.

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As shown in this painting, Anson advanced on the enemy

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and, at extremely close quarters,

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engaged the Spanish ship in fierce combat.

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Someone with first-hand experience of battle at sea

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is Rear Admiral Christopher Layman.

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With 35 years in the Royal Navy, he is also an expert on Anson's voyage.

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So, talk me through what happened when these ships finally engaged.

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The chief difference between the two

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was that he was tremendously undermanned.

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-He only had 200 men on board.

-Mmm.

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And he should have had double that number, really,

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so he couldn't man all the guns but he made the most of it.

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And his tactics were brilliant.

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There was no question of firing a proper broadside,

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which is firing all the guns off together.

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So, instead of a gunners crew allocated to each gun,

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they had roving gangs that went from gun to gun.

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-Relay, like a tag team.

-In a relay.

-CANON SHOT

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It was desperate. They had to do it that way.

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Desperate, fighting for their lives,

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but they were also fighting for a fortune,

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because they all knew this was the Spanish treasure galleon.

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He'd been training for this for a month, you know.

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He'd been tacking up and down at the point here,

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where he was expecting the galleon to arrive.

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-Around the Philippines?

-That's right.

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And he got 30 of his best marksmen and put them in the tops,

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trained them every day, firing at targets,

0:25:400:25:44

-rewarding the ones who were most accurate.

-Yeah.

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And, of course, they did tremendous damage, in the rigging, firing down.

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Picking off people.

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Picking off people and, first of all, I imagine,

0:25:550:25:58

accounting for the marksmen in the other ship, in the other rigging.

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-Yes.

-At least, that's the order I would do things.

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-Get them out first, then get the officers...

-That's right.

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-..then get the guys firing the canons.

-Exactly.

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And, of course, while the musketeers were doing their work from the tops,

0:26:100:26:16

the heavy guns were hammering the ship.

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-Right along the bow.

-That's right.

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-Very effective tactics and...

-With one of those.

-With one of these.

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And, to be at the business end of that when it arrives

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-is not a good place to be.

-You wouldn't know about it, would you?

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That would go through the port side and out the starboard, wouldn't it?

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It might well do that.

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And if you knew nothing about it, you were one of the lucky ones.

0:26:390:26:43

-The others who were wounded...

-Gosh.

-..mostly by splinters, probably...

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Yes, cos that would ricochet.

0:26:470:26:48

Huge splinters come from ship's side

0:26:480:26:52

and give nasty wound to anybody in the way.

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CANON SHOTS

0:26:560:26:59

Very effective tactics, worked very well.

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She surrendered with all the treasure intact.

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And each crewman, I gather, gets a part of that reward.

0:27:110:27:14

He certainly does. A huge prize...

0:27:140:27:17

-Is it?

-..which would set him up for life.

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Capturing the Spanish ship sealed Anson's reputation

0:27:230:27:26

as a great military commander when he returned to England.

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It took a staggering 32 wagons to transport the chests of treasure,

0:27:340:27:39

containing mostly gold and sliver coins,

0:27:390:27:41

to the Tower of London, with an estimated worth,

0:27:410:27:44

in today's money, of £15 million.

0:27:440:27:47

The Spanish treasure ship was the greatest prize ever captured at sea.

0:27:470:27:52

Not only had Anson delivered the gold

0:27:550:27:57

the King of England asked him to fight for

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but, in doing so, he circumnavigated the globe,

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ensuring his fame as well as his wealth.

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Welcome back to our magnificent valuation day venue, Sandon Hall.

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As you can see, there are still hundreds of people here.

0:28:210:28:24

We need to find some more antiques to take off to auction,

0:28:240:28:27

so we're going to make a start right now,

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as we catch up with Charles Hanson.

0:28:290:28:31

One of my great loves, Elaine, as a young man,

0:28:310:28:33

which really got me into the whole psyche of antiques

0:28:330:28:36

and asking that question, "If it could talk, what could it tell us?",

0:28:360:28:41

was using my metal detector,

0:28:410:28:43

-digging up metal which I had no idea what it was.

-Yeah, very exciting.

0:28:430:28:48

If I'd found these in the soil, I may have thought,

0:28:480:28:52

"Well, it could be part of a tractor.

0:28:520:28:55

"Maybe it could be part of a horseshoe."

0:28:550:28:58

But, of course, these objects have a pedigree

0:28:580:29:02

and provenance which is so important.

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If I put on a bit of a twang and became a pirate,

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what might romanticise people is, of course, they are pieces of eight.

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-Yes.

-Real treasure, real booty.

-Yes, very exciting.

0:29:150:29:19

In 1707,

0:29:190:29:21

that great 96-gun vessel HMS Association sunk off Sicily

0:29:210:29:27

and lost at sea were all of these pieces of eight

0:29:270:29:32

and last century, unearthed in that great London saleroom...

0:29:320:29:35

My boyfriend bought them as a gift -

0:29:350:29:38

one for my father and one for myself,

0:29:380:29:40

-and from the original sale in 1969.

-Wonderful.

0:29:400:29:42

And we can go back to 1707

0:29:420:29:46

when piracy was prolific on the high seas and, at that time,

0:29:460:29:51

pieces of eight were really the world's first currency,

0:29:510:29:55

which could be exchanged between continents and also countries.

0:29:550:30:00

And these are very well-worn, very far removed from looking like coins.

0:30:000:30:06

But when it comes to treasure, this really is treasure

0:30:060:30:09

and I love them, I really do.

0:30:090:30:12

-So, you've got the two.

-Yes.

0:30:120:30:14

I can see one casing is in good condition,

0:30:140:30:16

-which is yours, I presume.

-Oh...

-What happened?

-I can't lie.

-No.

0:30:160:30:20

My father was more experienced than myself

0:30:200:30:22

and he kept his very well and I was foolish

0:30:220:30:25

and didn't keep mine in such good condition.

0:30:250:30:28

It's had some damp-proofing, you've taped it all up, but really,

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although when it comes to toys, boxes are so important,

0:30:310:30:34

but with these sleeves, they're not so important

0:30:340:30:37

because they are still evidence as to what they represent.

0:30:370:30:40

But what IS the most important is these two wonderful pieces of eight.

0:30:400:30:45

I think they're worth, today, at auction...

0:30:450:30:48

Got to be careful because if they were in really great condition,

0:30:480:30:52

they'd have been £1,000 - if they were really clean and legible.

0:30:520:30:57

So, I would hope we could, perhaps, put them into the sale

0:30:570:31:02

perhaps with a guide price of between £200 and £300

0:31:020:31:06

-for the two together.

-OK.

0:31:060:31:08

And perhaps put a fixed reserve on of £150.

0:31:080:31:12

Yes, I think I'd like a reserve,

0:31:120:31:14

just because of its being so exciting.

0:31:140:31:17

-Aye aye, Captain. Walk the plank.

-Jim lad.

-That's it - Jim lad.

0:31:170:31:21

They call me Pirate Hanson, yeah.

0:31:210:31:23

Swashbuckling tales of shipwreck and sunken treasure,

0:31:230:31:28

conjured up by those tiny nuggets of ocean plunder.

0:31:280:31:31

And now Christina's stepped outside for her next item.

0:31:310:31:36

Alison, the thing I love about this mug is how much fun

0:31:360:31:40

-these guys look like they're having.

-They do, don't they?

0:31:400:31:42

It's just fab, isn't it? They're having a proper party on here.

0:31:420:31:46

You've got some chap falling off a log.

0:31:460:31:48

He's obviously had a few too many, hasn't he?

0:31:480:31:50

Some chappie riding a horse over here,

0:31:500:31:52

who looks like he's telling everyone what they should be doing.

0:31:520:31:55

-It's just a wonderful village scene, isn't it?

-Yes.

0:31:550:31:58

-From 1903.

-Mmm-hmm.

0:31:580:32:00

-Where did it come from?

-Well, that's a very good question.

0:32:000:32:03

-My grandfather picked it up at some random auction or other.

-Mmm.

0:32:030:32:07

And it's been in the family as far back as I can remember

0:32:070:32:10

and it's eventually come down to me.

0:32:100:32:13

-And you've inherited it and now it's here today.

-It is, indeed.

0:32:130:32:18

Well, when I first saw this, I have to confess I thought,

0:32:180:32:21

"Hmm, that looks Continental,"

0:32:210:32:23

because this sort of quite high embossed work here

0:32:230:32:26

with the background work there is often Continental

0:32:260:32:30

and in the early 20th century,

0:32:300:32:32

a lot was imported from Holland and the low countries

0:32:320:32:35

and we do see it in this country and it was reassayed.

0:32:350:32:38

-It was imported into this country and reassayed.

-OK.

0:32:380:32:41

I've had a really good look, because often,

0:32:410:32:43

when it was reassayed when it was an import,

0:32:430:32:46

they would stamp it F for "Foreign", which isn't very inventive, really.

0:32:460:32:50

-No, but it's obvious.

-That's what they did, exactly, and we like that.

0:32:500:32:54

If we look at the mark, I would expect to see that magic foreign F.

0:32:540:32:57

And if we look, we've got GNRH,

0:32:570:32:59

those initials in that shield shape there,

0:32:590:33:02

which is for George Nathan & Ridley Hayes.

0:33:020:33:04

We've got the lion passant for sterling silver,

0:33:040:33:06

three little wheat sheaves, which is the town mark for Chester.

0:33:060:33:09

And that, funnily enough, was also my school badge,

0:33:090:33:12

those wheat sheaves for Chester.

0:33:120:33:14

And then we've got the date letter, which is a curly, curly C,

0:33:140:33:17

which is for 1903.

0:33:170:33:19

-So, no F.

-No F.

0:33:190:33:21

So, it must have been a British piece of silver,

0:33:210:33:24

which really surprises me.

0:33:240:33:25

It's a little mug and probably would have been used

0:33:250:33:28

as a Christening mug or a presentation mug.

0:33:280:33:30

The only thing that concerns me is we've got a bit of a dent here,

0:33:300:33:34

which is slightly worrying,

0:33:340:33:36

and you can also see on the high points,

0:33:360:33:39

it has been cleaned quite vigorously

0:33:390:33:41

and the silver has actually worn away.

0:33:410:33:43

-That'll have been my gran.

-Oh, really?

0:33:430:33:45

-Was she a good sliver cleaner?

-Yes.

-She gave it plenty of welly?

-Yes.

0:33:450:33:49

But I wouldn't hesitate to put £50 to £100 on that at auction.

0:33:490:33:53

-I think it's a great thing. Would you be happy with that?

-Yes.

0:33:530:33:56

-Happy to flog it for that?

-Yes.

-And would you like a reserve on it?

0:33:560:33:59

-I would.

-What you like your reserve to be?

-Um...

0:33:590:34:02

-Would £50 be realistic?

-I think £50 reserve is realistic.

0:34:030:34:07

I think if we put an estimate of £50 to £100,

0:34:070:34:10

maybe a discretionary reserve of £50,

0:34:100:34:11

-just in case we should need it.

-Mmm-hmm.

0:34:110:34:13

But I think it's a lovely thing and I wish I went to a few more parties

0:34:130:34:16

-that look like they were as much fun as that.

-Absolutely.

0:34:160:34:19

Christina, you need to get out more!

0:34:210:34:23

And that brings us to our final item and a rather starstruck Charles.

0:34:230:34:27

Mr Moorcroft, good to see you.

0:34:290:34:31

You have an air of authority about you.

0:34:310:34:34

You're no relation, are you,

0:34:340:34:36

to the great name of Moorcroft of the potteries,

0:34:360:34:39

-going back to the great man William?

-I am, I'm his son.

0:34:390:34:43

-You're not!

-I am.

-You're William Moorcroft's son? Goodness me!

0:34:430:34:47

So, that whole history which I thrive on, that's your father?

0:34:470:34:51

-Yes.

-I can't believe it!

0:34:510:34:53

He started it and got it going and made his name at it

0:34:530:34:56

and then, when he died,

0:34:560:34:58

-my half-brother Walter took over...

-I can't believe it!

0:34:580:35:01

-And I joined him in '62 until I retired in 2003.

-Wonderful.

0:35:010:35:05

Amazing! But, of course, away from Moorcroft,

0:35:050:35:08

which we ought to be talking about,

0:35:080:35:10

and I could talk all day to you, John, of course,

0:35:100:35:12

the next best thing, I think, for two men, are boys' toys.

0:35:120:35:16

-Yes.

-Yes. And you've brought in...

0:35:160:35:18

And, again, I'm trying to put the toys into context, in terms of date.

0:35:180:35:21

Looking at you and perhaps father who, of course, is a bit too old

0:35:210:35:26

for these to have been the great man William's,

0:35:260:35:29

I'm guessing they were yours.

0:35:290:35:31

These were mine, bought by me from new, from Bassett-Lowke,

0:35:310:35:35

who had a shop in Holborn in London at the time, in the early '50s.

0:35:350:35:38

Quite right. And, John, talk me through...

0:35:380:35:41

Because what I love about these toys is

0:35:410:35:44

they are in remarkably good condition.

0:35:440:35:45

-You were clearly a very careful child.

-I looked after them.

0:35:450:35:49

I inherited certain of my trains from friends and older people

0:35:490:35:54

and they were fairly battered when I got them

0:35:540:35:56

but, having bought these new, you tend to look after them,

0:35:560:36:00

keep them oiled and keep them in good condition,

0:36:000:36:02

-and even with the boxes.

-Yeah. And what have we got here, John?

0:36:020:36:06

The engine is a 446 in the early British Railways colours.

0:36:060:36:12

Prince Charles is the name of the engine and the two coaches -

0:36:120:36:16

the one on the box here is the first-class coach

0:36:160:36:19

and the other one is third-class

0:36:190:36:22

with the guards van portion underneath.

0:36:220:36:25

Yes, and when we look back, historically,

0:36:250:36:29

at the golden age of tin-plate toys,

0:36:290:36:31

of early Hornby, of early Bassett-Lowke...

0:36:310:36:35

Bassett-Lowke - they began in Northamptonshire in 1948,

0:36:350:36:39

so these were fairly new to the market,

0:36:390:36:42

maybe five or six years later when you, as a young boy...

0:36:420:36:46

I'd have been about 14, 15, a teenager, yes.

0:36:460:36:50

Well, you're doing very well, sir.

0:36:500:36:52

THEY LAUGH

0:36:520:36:54

A wonderful collection and we've got the boxes.

0:36:540:36:57

The condition is particularly good

0:36:570:37:00

and this market, as ever, ever so buoyant

0:37:000:37:03

and in the auction, I would like to put them to a sale

0:37:030:37:06

with a guide price of between £200 and £300.

0:37:060:37:10

That would be fine.

0:37:100:37:12

And I propose, to keep them safe and well,

0:37:120:37:15

-we perhaps put a reserve at £200 with 10% discretion.

-Yes.

0:37:150:37:20

Would that be to your approval? May we flog it, Mr Moorcroft?

0:37:200:37:23

-You may.

-May I shake your hand, sir, and say, going, going, gone?

0:37:230:37:26

-Thanks very much.

-Thank you.

-Pleasure.

0:37:260:37:28

When I heard that the son of one of Britain's greatest ceramicists

0:37:310:37:34

had come to our "Flog It!" valuation day,

0:37:340:37:37

I couldn't let him go without saying hello.

0:37:370:37:40

What's the secret of Moorcroft's popularity?

0:37:400:37:43

I think because it's based on natural designs, natural shapes

0:37:430:37:47

and it's got colours which are from natural ochres

0:37:470:37:51

of the world, of the earth.

0:37:510:37:53

And because they're natural,

0:37:530:37:55

they don't get dated with the test of time.

0:37:550:37:58

It has that William Morris ethos, doesn't it?

0:37:580:38:01

That's what it's all about.

0:38:010:38:02

Yes, well, Morris and Moorcroft were both believers

0:38:020:38:06

in the same sort of thing - natural flowers, natural...

0:38:060:38:10

-Harmonising with nature, inspired by nature.

-Yes.

0:38:100:38:13

And the other big thing is its hand-work

0:38:130:38:16

and people appreciate something which has got craftsmanship in.

0:38:160:38:20

So much today is mass-produced

0:38:200:38:22

and doesn't have any sort of great originality about it,

0:38:220:38:26

but every piece of Moorcroft, because it's individually made,

0:38:260:38:29

is an original piece by itself.

0:38:290:38:31

Each one of your little pieces is a document of social history

0:38:310:38:34

-within itself.

-Absolutely, yes.

0:38:340:38:36

-Thank you very much for talking to me today.

-Not at all.

0:38:360:38:39

Sadly, it's time to say goodbye to this magnificent host location.

0:38:430:38:47

Please, if you're in the area, drop in. It's well worth a visit.

0:38:470:38:51

But right now, we're dropping in on the auction room

0:38:510:38:53

for the very last time

0:38:530:38:55

and here's a list of the treasures we're taking with us.

0:38:550:38:58

Elaine's pieces of eight are survivors

0:38:580:39:00

of an incredible true tale of shipwreck and treasure.

0:39:000:39:04

The scene on this pretty silver Christening mug

0:39:050:39:08

put Christina in the mood to party.

0:39:080:39:11

And their link with a British pottery dynasty

0:39:110:39:13

added to Charles' excitement

0:39:130:39:15

about these beautiful Bassett-Lowke trains.

0:39:150:39:18

First, it's Elaine's sunken treasure.

0:39:210:39:24

Why do you want to sell those?

0:39:240:39:26

Well, they're just sort of sitting there, you know, not doing anything,

0:39:260:39:29

and "Flog It!" was coming to town. Could I resist you? Not really.

0:39:290:39:33

I think it's the first time ever

0:39:330:39:34

-we've had pieces of eight on the show.

-It's that romance,

0:39:340:39:37

pieces of eight, and here they are.

0:39:370:39:39

-Is that how you say it? "Pieces of eight?"

-Long John Silver.

0:39:390:39:43

-Two pieces of eight...

-Hold tight.

0:39:430:39:45

..from Sotheby's HMS Association auction, 1969. Ha-ha!

0:39:450:39:52

There they are, at £120.

0:39:520:39:54

Two pieces of eight at 120.

0:39:540:39:56

130. 140.

0:39:560:39:58

At £140 now.

0:39:580:39:59

At £140. All finished then?

0:39:590:40:02

Come on, one more.

0:40:020:40:04

-Uh-oh, I'm walking the plank.

-You ARE walking the plank, Charles.

0:40:040:40:08

-I'm sinking fast.

-Not today for those, I'm afraid. Lot 56...

0:40:080:40:11

-Oh!

-We didn't sell. We were one bid away.

-One bid away.

-I'm sorry!

0:40:130:40:18

-So close, Charles. I'm sorry, Captain.

-Well, my son's over there.

0:40:180:40:22

-He'll inherit them.

-Hey, that's even better, isn't it?

-Thumbs up, yeah.

0:40:220:40:25

Keep them in the family.

0:40:250:40:26

Next, it's Alison's silver Christening mug.

0:40:260:40:30

-It was your grandfather's, wasn't it?

-Yes.

0:40:310:40:33

Was he ever Christened with it? Was it a present?

0:40:330:40:35

No, it was something he picked up at an auction.

0:40:350:40:38

He loved the auction scene, did he? Do you like auctions?

0:40:380:40:40

-This is the first one I've ever been to.

-Is it really?

-Ah!

0:40:400:40:43

-Oh, my goodness.

-Have you got your eye on anything at all?

0:40:430:40:46

Er, no. No, I daren't.

0:40:460:40:48

Keep your hands down or you might buy something.

0:40:480:40:50

That's why they're behind my back!

0:40:500:40:52

Silver Christening mug, Chester, 1903. There it is.

0:40:520:40:55

Start the bidding here at £50.

0:40:550:40:57

Oh, brilliant. There we go, straightaway.

0:40:570:40:59

55, where? At £50.

0:40:590:41:01

To a commission at £50. At £50 to a commission bid.

0:41:010:41:05

-Come on, a bit more.

-At £50.

0:41:050:41:07

At £50. All finished then at £50. Selling...

0:41:070:41:10

5 - just in time, at £55. At 55...

0:41:100:41:13

AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL Done.

0:41:130:41:15

-OK.

-£55.

-£55 - just a little bit over bottom estimate.

0:41:150:41:18

-Yes, somebody will enjoy it.

-Yes, let's hope so.

0:41:180:41:20

Well, it wasn't doing anything in your cabinet, was it?

0:41:200:41:23

It certainly wasn't.

0:41:230:41:24

And finally today,

0:41:260:41:28

it's John Moorcroft's boyhood train collection.

0:41:280:41:31

He's brought along his wife, Gill, who's even more excited than we are.

0:41:310:41:35

I've been urging him to sell these for 54 years.

0:41:350:41:37

-Did you send him out the door then, did you?

-Yes.

0:41:370:41:40

You said, "Get to that "Flog It!" valuation day, go and see Charles.

0:41:400:41:43

-Yeah.

-Hey-ho, here we are. OK, where have they been all this time?

0:41:430:41:46

They've been in the garage for the last 20 years.

0:41:460:41:49

Do you know what, you must have a dry garage

0:41:490:41:51

because the condition's very good and the boxes are good as well.

0:41:510:41:54

-They're not damp and rusty, so...

-Well looked after.

0:41:540:41:57

Well looked after and how they should be.

0:41:570:41:59

We need to get these off to a collector. OK, ready?

0:41:590:42:01

We're going to put them to the test. Here we go.

0:42:010:42:03

The Bassett-Lowke scale model "O" gauge train, 440 locomotive,

0:42:030:42:07

Prince Charles, number 62078, with tender in dark blue, BR livery.

0:42:070:42:12

What about those? At 120. 130.

0:42:120:42:14

£130 now. At 130, Bassett-Lowke.

0:42:140:42:18

-At 130.

-Come on!

-140. 150.

0:42:180:42:21

150. At 160. 170.

0:42:210:42:24

At £170 now. At 180.

0:42:240:42:26

190. At 190.

0:42:260:42:29

-200. 210.

-Just.

-We're in.

0:42:290:42:31

-We're in.

-We're choo-chooing.

0:42:310:42:32

220. 230. £230 now.

0:42:320:42:35

At 240. 250.

0:42:350:42:37

250. 260.

0:42:370:42:39

270. At £270 now, in the room.

0:42:390:42:42

280. 290.

0:42:420:42:44

£290. £300.

0:42:440:42:47

320. 320, the bid is in the room.

0:42:470:42:50

340, internet. 360.

0:42:500:42:53

£360 now. At 360.

0:42:530:42:55

At 360. 380.

0:42:550:42:57

On the net, 400. The bid is in the room at £400.

0:42:570:43:00

-That's brilliant.

-Good.

-At £400, are we all finished then?

0:43:000:43:03

-At 400.

-AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL

0:43:030:43:05

-The hammer's gone down.

-Yes!

-We're chuffed.

0:43:050:43:07

-And I haven't got to take them home!

-£400. We got the top end.

-We did.

0:43:070:43:11

I'm so pleased you pushed him out the door.

0:43:110:43:13

THEY LAUGH

0:43:130:43:15

-That's one way to £400.

-What a way to end today's show.

0:43:150:43:18

Sadly, we've run out of time in Shrewsbury but I told you

0:43:180:43:21

there'd be a surprise and we had a lovely little one at the end.

0:43:210:43:24

Join us again soon for many more but, until then, it's goodbye.

0:43:240:43:27

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