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This is Sandon Hall, just a few miles south of Stoke, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
once the famous capital of Britain's world-class pottery industry. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
So, today, "Flog It!" has the Staffordshire stamp of approval. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
Welcome to the show. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Sandon Hall is a grand imposing mansion in the Jacobean style. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
But it's not as old as it looks. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
It was built in 1852 after the previous hall burnt down | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
when a blowtorch was left on the roof. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
So, if it wasn't the fire that gave the exterior | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
its chargrilled effect, what did? | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
The blackened stonework of Sandon Hall is down to the smoke | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
and the soot billowing out from the thousands of kilns | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
from the nearby Stoke potteries in years gone by. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
It's not just pottery Staffordshire is famous for. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
For many years, it was the country's capital of shoe-making. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
And stepping out in their fancy footwear today | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
are experts Christina Trevanion... | 0:01:20 | 0:01:21 | |
-I love that. Are you thinking of selling that? -No. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
-Have you ever had a good cup of tea from it? -Er, no. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
-..and Charles Hanson. -Wow, it's like a treasure map, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
-I found your dentist. -Oh, goodness me! Goodness me! Oh, my goodness me. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
-There's an improvement there somewhere. -There we go, there we go. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
Later in the show, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
a family story breathes life into some homespun relics. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
-He brought them home for my mother. -Oh. -And this little girl... | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
-Just gorgeous, isn't she? -..has real hair. -Yeah. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
Charles comes face to face with a true Moorcroft original. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
You're no relation, are you, to the great man William? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
-I am, I'm his son. -And there are surprises in the auction room. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
You're William Moorcroft's son! | 0:02:02 | 0:02:03 | |
Oh, brilliant. There you go. Straightaway. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
And I visit nearby Shugborough Hall | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
to hear about a dramatic voyage round the world. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
It's a terrifying story | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
of endurance and survival against all odds. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
Well, everyone's now safely seated inside this magnificent house | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
and, as you can see, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
we have literally taken over the whole of the ground floor. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
We need to find some treasures of our own to take off to auction, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
so let's make a start and it's straight over to Christina's table. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Sister Marie, this is really rather beautiful, | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
this item that you've brought in to me today. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
Can you tell me a bit about it, where it's come from? | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
-Well, I think it was my dad's 21st birthday present. -Oh! | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
-Probably in the 1920s. -Oh, fantastic. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
And we just always had it at home | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
and it was in a drawer upstairs in the dressing table | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
and when we were children, we'd get it out and we'd play with it | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
and the watch - it did have a watch with it - as far as I can remember, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:08 | |
-it never went, so this is all that remains of it. -Oh, really? | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
-So, where's the watch gone? -I've no idea. -Oh. -No idea. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
We're displaying it like a necklace here, on this stand here. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
But you're absolutely right - | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
-originally, it would have been made for a watch. -Yes. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
It's what we call a watch albert | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
and this is a particularly nice example | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
cos it's what we call a double watch albert, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
so rather than just having one strand that you'd attach | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
to your waistcoat, using this little T-bar here | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
and then the clip here would have the watch, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
it's got two, so you'd wear it in the centre | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
and then two loops either side, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
so you'd have probably your vesta case on one side | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
-to hold your matches and your watch on the other. -Right. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
So, it's a particularly nice example | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
-because it's what we call a double watch albert. -I didn't know that. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
And ladies use them today as necklaces, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
so the thing that I love about this particular piece is, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
if we look at each of these what we call curb link chains - | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
that's the shape of the curb - | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
every single one, every single one is hallmarked. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
-Whoa. -And they are just miniscule. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
Can you imagine being the assayer that had to do that - | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
-stamp every single link with this wonderful mark? -My goodness. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
And the date mark that's on it is for Chester, 1923. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
That would be about right for my dad. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
-Does that tie in with dad's 21st birthday present? -Yes. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
-Oh, fantastic. So, it's all adding up, isn't it? It's wonderful. -Yes. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
But what you might not realise is that this little fob | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
-at the bottom here... -Yes. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
-..and this albert didn't start life together. -Oh, did they not? | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
They were poles apart. This was assayed in Birmingham | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
-in 19...I think 21. -Yes. -And this was assayed in Chester in 1923. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
-Right. -So it might have been that he was given this maybe slightly later | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
or maybe as a separate gift. But they didn't start life together. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
-Right. -And, again, that's in nine-carat gold. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
It's got a lovely maker's mark for Joseph Gloster & Sons | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
and he made a lot of these little medallions and fobs. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-So would you wear it today? -No! I couldn't. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
I'm a religious sister, so I can't wear that kind of jewellery. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
So, is this something that you're thinking you might want to sell? | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
-Yes, please. -OK. So, I've had a bit of a weigh of it. -Yes. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
The fact that it's Chester and it's a nice early one really do add | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
to that value but we do have to use the weight as a basis to go off. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
And the weight would indicate a value | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-of between £200 and £300 at auction. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
-How do you feel about that? -Go ahead, please. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
-Would that be all right? -Mmm-hmm. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
So, if we enter it into auction at £200 to £300, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
perhaps with a reserve of £200, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
cos it shouldn't go for any less than that, really. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-It's definitely worth at least £200. -Yes. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
The money actually will be going to a charity | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
because we've got lots of sisters out in Peru and Nicaragua. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
-Oh, fantastic. -I've been there. -Oh, wow! -Yes, I have. -You pioneer, you. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
And also, Zimbabwe and I've been to Zimbabwe, too, | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
mainly working with children out there, just playing with them | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
because they just needed somebody just to be with them. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
It sounds like the money will be going to a fantastic cause. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
-A very good cause. -I'm so pleased. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Let's hope we get lots of money on auction day. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
Gold never goes out of fashion | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
and neither, for that matter, does silver. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
Now, tell me, whose is it? | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
-Mine. -Nick, what? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Well, we're married, so I suppose it's both of ours, isn't it? | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
Who found it? Is it a family heirloom? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
No, I found it on my travels, a sort of bric-a-brac shop, I think it was. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
-Really? In a bric-a-brac shop? -A few years ago. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
-I think I paid about £25 for it. -Wonderful. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
-And tell me, Kim, do you like it? -No. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
-Are we talking about this or...about my husband? -About the object. -No. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
-Really? -No. -Really? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
Because what we've got here is a punch ladle | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
and if you were a Georgian dandy or a Georgian gent, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
living in, I'm sure, a house like Sandon, back in that period, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
of the age of George III, the 1780s, 1790s, | 0:06:49 | 0:06:54 | |
this ladle may have been on your table to serve punch with. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:59 | |
What is really interesting is, first and foremost, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
it has that exotic whalebone handle that's been twisted and worked. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:08 | |
There's no hallmarks but we know, even without testing, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
it will be silver, because the quality | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
and the look of the period was often, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
one would place a coin and inset it into the base. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
Why would they put a coin in there? | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
For luck, for charm, for interest | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
and, whilst this ladle dates to around 1785, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
this actual coin on the inside is King James II. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
-It's a groat. Now, test your history, Kim. -Don't. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
-When was King James II on the throne? -1600 and something. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
-1680, Kim. -You're right. -1680? -He only ruled for four years. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:50 | |
He was on the throne from 1685 | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
to the Glorious, what we call the Revolution, of William III of 1689. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:58 | |
And what's quite nice is the coin within has a value too | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
and this is a groat, or a fourpence, which, perhaps, in that time, | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
would have bought you an ale and maybe a bag of nuts as well. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
-Not bad! -In that context of that period. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
This was made perhaps ten years before the French Revolution. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
It was made when mad King George III was king of England. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
It has such history and that's why I love it. What a great find! | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
-You had a great eye. -Good. -Yeah. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
-Is it something you're thinking of flogging today? -Mmm. -Really? -Mmm. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
-What's it worth? -A fiver. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
-Really? -No, I don't know. -Hopefully, an absolute fortune! | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
I think your investment's been very good. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
I think you bought really well because I would like to put it | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
into a sale with a guide price of between £50 and £80. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
So, we're going to double up, Nick, on what you paid for it. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
A reserve at £50, with discretion, so if we get a bid of £45, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
with 10% discretion, we have your blessing to sell it. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
It's in good condition. I'm hoping it will do quite well. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
-OK, great. -Excellent. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:04 | |
Fabulous craftsmanship and a unique item. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
There's not many of us who haven't seen the stage production | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
or the movie of War Horse. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
It's an emotional story about a young boy called Albert | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
and his intense relationship with his horse, Joey, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
which was requisitioned to fight during the First World War. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
This is Christ Church, Sandon Hall's war horse. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
He belonged to the 6th Earl and, together, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
they fought in and survived the First World War. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
Caroline Sandon, the current Countess of Harrowby, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
knows all about him. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
Christ Church means so much to me because the horses, I don't know... | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
Now they are being celebrated but, at the time, they gave so much | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
and I don't know if you know, but at the end of the First World War, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
-a lot of them were left in France and shot. -Yes, they were. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
And to me, it's a complete tragedy, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
so I'd love to tell you a bit about him. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
-This is a good story, though, isn't it? -This has got a happy ending. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
He was a front liner, on the front line, seeing action all the time. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
All the time, every day, for four years. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
He was actually caught in no-man's-land | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
-at least three or four times. -Gosh! | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
I know, and the fact is you can see he's not a thoroughbred, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
thank goodness, because he was very stoic. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
When horses were scattering, as you can imagine, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
in the turmoil and the carnage, he stood stock still and sort of said, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
-"Come and get me," you know. -Saved his life, didn't he? | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
-He saved his life a thousand times. -And he survived that Great War. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
He survived. Conroy's grandfather paid a farmer in France to keep him | 0:10:34 | 0:10:41 | |
and said, "I will not shoot my horse. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
"I'm going back to England, please look after him." | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
He got back to England and in 1919, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
he couldn't bear being without Christ Church. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
He went to France, he found him in a field, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
starving to death, I might add. He then chartered a boat, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
and brought him back and Christ Church lived for many more years. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
-And in the end, he had an obituary in the Times. -Did he? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Yeah, the only horse, as far as I know, apart from Red Rum, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
who had an obituary in the Times. So, it's quite marvellous. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
-And he pulled these long faces, of which you can see one there. -Yes. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
-He looks a grumpy so-and-so. -He does. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
But he just adored his master | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
and he wouldn't do anything for anyone else except Lord Harrowby. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
-I'm pleased you've told me that. -It's marvellous, isn't it? | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
I think it's rather fitting that he's here. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
I think he's quite magnificent. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
Continuing the theme, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Christina hears another story of bravery from Trish. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
-These were my granddad's... -Mmm-hmm. -..from the First World War. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
-These three here were made by a prisoner of war or him. -Right, OK. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
-And it does say, "Prisoner" on the spoon. -Isn't that fascinating? | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
Those were his medals from the First World War. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
-So these are grandfather's? -Yes. -Great, OK. -William Sewell. -OK. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
And this is the box that the medals came home in. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
First World War medals are always named, so we can always tell, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
which is interesting, who received them and what rank they were, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
-what number they were, etc. -Yes. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
And if we look around this one here, we've got "Middlesex Regiment" | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
or "Midd' X R", which is Middlesex Regiment. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
And what I think is particularly lovely - | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
obviously, we can track him down - but it's got Middlesex Regiment | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
on the top of this really sweet little pokerwork box. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
This is what we call "pokerwork" because the embellishments | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
were done with a red-hot poker to make it easier to mould. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
So that wouldn't be a prisoner of war then? | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Not necessarily. That could have been done later. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
It may have been but it's very, very fine, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
so I'd say that he maybe made it to put his medals in. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
-Was HE a prisoner of war? -Yes, he was a prisoner of war. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
So, did he make these items? | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
I'm not sure whether he actually made all of the items | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
-or whether another prisoner of war with him made the items... -OK. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
..for him, for my mother. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
-And they traded them or something like that, potentially. -Yeah. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
-He brought them home for my mother. -Oh. -And this little girl... | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
That dolly is just gorgeous. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
-..has real hair made of leather with lead shoes. -Oh, wonderful! | 0:13:02 | 0:13:07 | |
And I was given this when I was very tiny. I've been playing with that... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
-Well, not now, but... -But that's pretty special | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
cos when poor old grandfather was sitting in his prisoner of war camp, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
he was obviously whiling away the hours making items | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
and thinking about his daughter... | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
-Yes. -..which is really sweet, isn't it? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
This, to me, is the one that stands out a bit. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
I don't really know what that's for. It's rather lovely, isn't it? | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
-It's a lot of work gone into it. -Yes, and it's a little purse. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
And it was complete when I first received it. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
I don't know how it's got broken over the years | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
-and there was two of them. -Ah. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
So I guess another one was given to another member of the family. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
This one I think is wonderful. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
We've got "Turkish prisoner" on the spoon | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
-and it's a folding spoon, isn't it? -It is. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
So, he would have put this in his pocket | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
-and used it in the prisoner of war camp. -Yes. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
And I do think, to have that is really quite wonderful. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
But we have to think commercially | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
-and we have to think what would they fetch. -Yes. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
If we look at any of these items here in isolation, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
there's not a huge amount of value here, to be perfectly honest, | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
but as a collection of your grandfather's | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
and with that story behind it, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
that is lovely and that makes it, for me. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
It's so important to have that provenance | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
-because that, by itself, would just be a little doll. -Yes. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
That folding spoon, by itself, is just a folding spoon. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
It's not going to be of that sort of gravitas | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
-that you've just explained, with the story to it. -Right. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
So, I think we should be looking at £60 to £100. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
What's your thoughts about offering them at £60 to £100? | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
-I didn't know their value. I was hoping for around £80. -OK. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
-But I won't put a reserve on it. -You just want it to go? -Yes. -OK. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
I want them to go to someone who'll appreciate them, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
-rather than be under the bed. -Is that where they are? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
-Under the bed in a suitcase. -Oh, my goodness! | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Well, I think they WOULD go to somebody who appreciated them | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
and especially because we're in the centenary years of World War I... | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-Yes. -..there is certainly going to be that interest. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
Well, you've just seen them - | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
three wonderful items to take off to auction. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
I've got my favourites, you've probably got yours but, right now, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
we're going to put those valuations to the test in front of the bidders. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Anything can happen. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
This is where it gets exciting and we're going to leave you | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
with a quick rundown of all the items we're taking with us. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
Sister Marie's solid gold watch chain | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
and fob will make a unique necklace. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
This pretty punch ladle is a shining example | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
of 18th-century craftsmanship | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
and I love the added touch of the coin in the bowl. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
And finally, this modest collection of items revealed | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
the poignant story of one man's experience of war. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
For our sale today, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
we've headed west to the Roman market town of Shrewsbury, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
a place with an illustrious history and, fingers crossed, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
we can make some history of our very own today, | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
here at Halls auction rooms. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
I'm going inside to catch up with our owners | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
because I know they're feeling nervous right now. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
You sit back and enjoy this because anything could happen. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
On the rostrum is Jeremy Lamond | 0:16:19 | 0:16:21 | |
and the commission today is 19% plus VAT. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
Right now, it's time for our first item - Sister Marie's watch chain. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
It's great to see you again and who've you brought along with you? | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-Sister Therese. -Oh, hello. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
-Now, you've been out in Africa for a long, long time. -I have, yes. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
And the proceeds of this gold albert chain are going to...? | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
-To the mission work of the Sisters. -And some of that will go to Africa? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
-I should think so, yes. -OK. -I hope so! -Good luck, both of you. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
-Gold prices have gone up since the valuation day. -They have, yes. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
We initially had £200 to £300 on this, now we're looking | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
at a fixed reserve of £300, we're looking for £300 to £500. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
Looking at the weight of the albert, it should fetch that, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
so keeping everything crossed for you, ladies. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
-Happy, everyone? -Yes. -Lovely. -Right. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
230 is the Edwardian nine-carat gold watch chain with T-bar | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
and Maltese cross-formed fob. Chester hallmark. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
I'm bid £280. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
At 280. 280. 290. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
300. At £300 now. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-At £300. Selling at 300. -AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
-Yes, £300! -It sold for £300. That's great! -That's good, isn't it? | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
Well done, girls - all three of you. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
-Congratulations, that's wonderful. -Ah. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
A superior result there for the Sisters. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
And next up is Nick and Kim's exquisite 18th-century punch ladle. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
I used to buy stuff like this. You never use it and you think... | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
You go to a bric-a-brac shop and you think, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
"That's so undervalued, I want to buy it, it's full of history, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
it's beautifully made, I'm going to buy it." | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
And you get it home and you don't know what to do with it. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
-Was that the case? -It was just a quality item. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
-And you can't let it go, can you? -I can't help myself. -No, nor can I. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
You have to caress these things, hold them, then you feel history. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-So interesting, so revealing. -Yeah. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
Fingers crossed, we can double your money right now. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
-That's what we're aiming for, isn't it? -I've every confidence, Charles. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
-Thank you very much. -I haven't! | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
Lot 35, the white metal whalebone handle toddy ladle, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
inset with a James II fourpence. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
At 25. £35. At 35. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
40, where? At £35. At 35. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
40. 5. At £45. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
-50, where? At £45, are we all finished? -One more. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
-At £45. Last chance. 50 on the internet. -Yes! | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
-Bottom estimate, bottom estimate. -At £50. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
-Selling then at £50. -AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
£50. You've doubled your money. I think that's a really good result. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
-Don't forget there is commission to pay, sadly. -That's bad. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
That's bad. But we all have to pay that, don't we? | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
A small but healthy profit for Nick to invest in more antiques. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
And now it's Trish's World War I memorabilia. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
So, why are you selling these? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
-They've been in the family a long time. -Yes. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
They've also been under the bed in a suitcase for a long time. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
-Oh, I didn't know that. That's where they've been, right? -Yes. -Hiding. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Gosh, hiding. Well, I'm not surprised you're selling. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
It's a very hard thing to value. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:22 | |
We've had prisoner of war memorabilia on the show before | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
and we've had many surprises, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:26 | |
-especially with the Turkish beadwork. -Mmm. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
We could get a surprise but I don't want to big your hopes up | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
-because it is a hard thing. -It is. We put £60 to £100 on it. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
-Yes. -And we had no reserve on it. -That's right. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
-And now there is a reserve. You've had a chat to the auction room? -Yes. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
You now want a £70 reserve, so that's now fixed at £70. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
-We've got to make £70. -Yes. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
The collection of war memorabilia. 1914, '18. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
At £40 now. At 40. 5. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
50. 5. 60. 5. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
70. £75, new place. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
At £75. 80, where? At £75. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
-And I'm selling it at £75. -AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Hammer's gone down at 75. Well done, Christina. Good valuation. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
-Well done. Brilliant. -Thank you for bringing those in. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
-You're welcome. -It was a fascinating story. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
Well, that's our first three lots under the hammer. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Time for a break and a change of scenery | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
and Staffordshire is such a beautiful county. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
Shugborough Hall, the ancestral home of the Anson family, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
is set in a vast estate of beautifully landscaped grounds | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and it's a fitting backdrop to the incredible career | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
of one of its 18th-century sons. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
Mucking about with boats rates pretty highly | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
on my list of things to do. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I just love it - something I've probably got in common | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
with a young boy who grew up here | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
and probably played at this very spot. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
He grew up to sail real ships across real oceans. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:54 | |
In fact, he became only the second Englishman | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
to circumnavigate the world. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
His name is George Anson and he grew up here at Shugborough. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
He was born in 1697. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
It was his elder brother Thomas | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
who would inherit the family title and estates, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
so like all second sons, George had to seek other employment. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
So he joined the Royal Navy at the age of 14, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
quickly working his way up the ranks | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
to his first command, at the young age of 22, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
on a ship called the Weasel. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Fortunately, this dreadful name for a vessel | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
didn't affect the rest of his career. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Eventually, he became First Lord of the Admiralty. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
But it was his epic voyage around the world in 1740 | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
for which he is most remembered. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
At the time of Anson's voyage around the world in 1740, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
Britain was engaged in a brutal and bloodthirsty war at sea with Spain. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
The aim was to weaken Spain's dominance | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
over the trading markets of South America | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
and, in doing so, give us greater access to its natural resources, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
its precious metals, particularly silver. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
The fleet that set sail from England under Anson's command | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
consisted of six warships, led by his flagship, HMS Centurion, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
a formidable fighting ship capable of heavy-duty firepower. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
But this was no ordinary military campaign. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
Anson's orders, delivered to him on behalf of King George II, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
included instructions for a secret mission - | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
to attack a Spanish treasure ship, laden with Peruvian silver, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
as it made its way across the Pacific from Acapulco. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
But between them and those spoils of war | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
lay the tempestuous seas of Cape Horn... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
..notorious for foul weather, violent gales and thunderous waves. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:01 | |
Battered by relentless storms, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
two of Anson's ships turned back to England. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
Their captains were later to face charges for desertion. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
A third ship was washed up onto the rocks | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
off an island off the coast of Chile. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
When Anson finally reached China, he was left with one vessel, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
the Centurion, and a handful of men, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
some of whom, it was noted, had turned mad. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
Returning to England under these disastrous circumstances | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
would have certainly marked the end of his naval career. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
Now, whether Anson's next decision was one of pure genius | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
or sheer desperation, it's impossible to tell, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
but he decides to have one last attempt | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
at catching up with the Spanish treasure ship | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
as it was crossing the Pacific from Acapulco to Manila. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
Despite being in a patched-up ship with a crew of just over 200 men, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:57 | |
half the size of a normal crew, | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
Anson had the self-belief and the determination | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
to command his crew to capture the Spanish vessel. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
As shown in this painting, Anson advanced on the enemy | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
and, at extremely close quarters, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
engaged the Spanish ship in fierce combat. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Someone with first-hand experience of battle at sea | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
is Rear Admiral Christopher Layman. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
With 35 years in the Royal Navy, he is also an expert on Anson's voyage. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
So, talk me through what happened when these ships finally engaged. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
The chief difference between the two | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
was that he was tremendously undermanned. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
-He only had 200 men on board. -Mmm. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
And he should have had double that number, really, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
so he couldn't man all the guns but he made the most of it. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
And his tactics were brilliant. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
There was no question of firing a proper broadside, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
which is firing all the guns off together. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
So, instead of a gunners crew allocated to each gun, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
they had roving gangs that went from gun to gun. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
-Relay, like a tag team. -In a relay. -CANON SHOT | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
It was desperate. They had to do it that way. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Desperate, fighting for their lives, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
but they were also fighting for a fortune, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
because they all knew this was the Spanish treasure galleon. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
He'd been training for this for a month, you know. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
He'd been tacking up and down at the point here, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
where he was expecting the galleon to arrive. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
-Around the Philippines? -That's right. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
And he got 30 of his best marksmen and put them in the tops, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:40 | |
trained them every day, firing at targets, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
-rewarding the ones who were most accurate. -Yeah. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
And, of course, they did tremendous damage, in the rigging, firing down. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:53 | |
Picking off people. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Picking off people and, first of all, I imagine, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
accounting for the marksmen in the other ship, in the other rigging. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
-Yes. -At least, that's the order I would do things. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
-Get them out first, then get the officers... -That's right. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-..then get the guys firing the canons. -Exactly. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
And, of course, while the musketeers were doing their work from the tops, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:16 | |
the heavy guns were hammering the ship. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
-Right along the bow. -That's right. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
-Very effective tactics and... -With one of those. -With one of these. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
And, to be at the business end of that when it arrives | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
-is not a good place to be. -You wouldn't know about it, would you? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
That would go through the port side and out the starboard, wouldn't it? | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
It might well do that. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
And if you knew nothing about it, you were one of the lucky ones. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
-The others who were wounded... -Gosh. -..mostly by splinters, probably... | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
Yes, cos that would ricochet. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:48 | |
Huge splinters come from ship's side | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
and give nasty wound to anybody in the way. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
CANON SHOTS | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
Very effective tactics, worked very well. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:08 | |
She surrendered with all the treasure intact. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
And each crewman, I gather, gets a part of that reward. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
He certainly does. A huge prize... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
-Is it? -..which would set him up for life. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
Capturing the Spanish ship sealed Anson's reputation | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
as a great military commander when he returned to England. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
It took a staggering 32 wagons to transport the chests of treasure, | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
containing mostly gold and sliver coins, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
to the Tower of London, with an estimated worth, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
in today's money, of £15 million. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
The Spanish treasure ship was the greatest prize ever captured at sea. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
Not only had Anson delivered the gold | 0:27:55 | 0:27:57 | |
the King of England asked him to fight for | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
but, in doing so, he circumnavigated the globe, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
ensuring his fame as well as his wealth. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
Welcome back to our magnificent valuation day venue, Sandon Hall. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
As you can see, there are still hundreds of people here. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
We need to find some more antiques to take off to auction, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
so we're going to make a start right now, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
as we catch up with Charles Hanson. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
One of my great loves, Elaine, as a young man, | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
which really got me into the whole psyche of antiques | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
and asking that question, "If it could talk, what could it tell us?", | 0:28:36 | 0:28:41 | |
was using my metal detector, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
-digging up metal which I had no idea what it was. -Yeah, very exciting. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 | |
If I'd found these in the soil, I may have thought, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
"Well, it could be part of a tractor. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:55 | |
"Maybe it could be part of a horseshoe." | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
But, of course, these objects have a pedigree | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
and provenance which is so important. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
If I put on a bit of a twang and became a pirate, | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
what might romanticise people is, of course, they are pieces of eight. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:15 | |
-Yes. -Real treasure, real booty. -Yes, very exciting. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
In 1707, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
that great 96-gun vessel HMS Association sunk off Sicily | 0:29:21 | 0:29:27 | |
and lost at sea were all of these pieces of eight | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
and last century, unearthed in that great London saleroom... | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
My boyfriend bought them as a gift - | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
one for my father and one for myself, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
-and from the original sale in 1969. -Wonderful. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
And we can go back to 1707 | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
when piracy was prolific on the high seas and, at that time, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
pieces of eight were really the world's first currency, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
which could be exchanged between continents and also countries. | 0:29:55 | 0:30:00 | |
And these are very well-worn, very far removed from looking like coins. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:06 | |
But when it comes to treasure, this really is treasure | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
and I love them, I really do. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
-So, you've got the two. -Yes. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
I can see one casing is in good condition, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
-which is yours, I presume. -Oh... -What happened? -I can't lie. -No. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:20 | |
My father was more experienced than myself | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
and he kept his very well and I was foolish | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
and didn't keep mine in such good condition. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
It's had some damp-proofing, you've taped it all up, but really, | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
although when it comes to toys, boxes are so important, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
but with these sleeves, they're not so important | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
because they are still evidence as to what they represent. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
But what IS the most important is these two wonderful pieces of eight. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
I think they're worth, today, at auction... | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
Got to be careful because if they were in really great condition, | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
they'd have been £1,000 - if they were really clean and legible. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
So, I would hope we could, perhaps, put them into the sale | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
perhaps with a guide price of between £200 and £300 | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
-for the two together. -OK. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
And perhaps put a fixed reserve on of £150. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
Yes, I think I'd like a reserve, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
just because of its being so exciting. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
-Aye aye, Captain. Walk the plank. -Jim lad. -That's it - Jim lad. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
They call me Pirate Hanson, yeah. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
Swashbuckling tales of shipwreck and sunken treasure, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:28 | |
conjured up by those tiny nuggets of ocean plunder. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
And now Christina's stepped outside for her next item. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
Alison, the thing I love about this mug is how much fun | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
-these guys look like they're having. -They do, don't they? | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
It's just fab, isn't it? They're having a proper party on here. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
You've got some chap falling off a log. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
He's obviously had a few too many, hasn't he? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
Some chappie riding a horse over here, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
who looks like he's telling everyone what they should be doing. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
-It's just a wonderful village scene, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:58 | |
-From 1903. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:31:58 | 0:32:00 | |
-Where did it come from? -Well, that's a very good question. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
-My grandfather picked it up at some random auction or other. -Mmm. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
And it's been in the family as far back as I can remember | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
and it's eventually come down to me. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
-And you've inherited it and now it's here today. -It is, indeed. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
Well, when I first saw this, I have to confess I thought, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
"Hmm, that looks Continental," | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
because this sort of quite high embossed work here | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
with the background work there is often Continental | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
and in the early 20th century, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
a lot was imported from Holland and the low countries | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
and we do see it in this country and it was reassayed. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
-It was imported into this country and reassayed. -OK. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
I've had a really good look, because often, | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
when it was reassayed when it was an import, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
they would stamp it F for "Foreign", which isn't very inventive, really. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
-No, but it's obvious. -That's what they did, exactly, and we like that. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
If we look at the mark, I would expect to see that magic foreign F. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
And if we look, we've got GNRH, | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
those initials in that shield shape there, | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
which is for George Nathan & Ridley Hayes. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
We've got the lion passant for sterling silver, | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
three little wheat sheaves, which is the town mark for Chester. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
And that, funnily enough, was also my school badge, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
those wheat sheaves for Chester. | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
And then we've got the date letter, which is a curly, curly C, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
which is for 1903. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
-So, no F. -No F. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
So, it must have been a British piece of silver, | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
which really surprises me. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
It's a little mug and probably would have been used | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
as a Christening mug or a presentation mug. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
The only thing that concerns me is we've got a bit of a dent here, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
which is slightly worrying, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
and you can also see on the high points, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
it has been cleaned quite vigorously | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
and the silver has actually worn away. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
-That'll have been my gran. -Oh, really? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
-Was she a good sliver cleaner? -Yes. -She gave it plenty of welly? -Yes. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
But I wouldn't hesitate to put £50 to £100 on that at auction. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
-I think it's a great thing. Would you be happy with that? -Yes. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
-Happy to flog it for that? -Yes. -And would you like a reserve on it? | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-I would. -What you like your reserve to be? -Um... | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
-Would £50 be realistic? -I think £50 reserve is realistic. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
I think if we put an estimate of £50 to £100, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
maybe a discretionary reserve of £50, | 0:34:10 | 0:34:11 | |
-just in case we should need it. -Mmm-hmm. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
But I think it's a lovely thing and I wish I went to a few more parties | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
-that look like they were as much fun as that. -Absolutely. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
Christina, you need to get out more! | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
And that brings us to our final item and a rather starstruck Charles. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
Mr Moorcroft, good to see you. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
You have an air of authority about you. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
You're no relation, are you, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
to the great name of Moorcroft of the potteries, | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
-going back to the great man William? -I am, I'm his son. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
-You're not! -I am. -You're William Moorcroft's son? Goodness me! | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
So, that whole history which I thrive on, that's your father? | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
-Yes. -I can't believe it! | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
He started it and got it going and made his name at it | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
and then, when he died, | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
-my half-brother Walter took over... -I can't believe it! | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
-And I joined him in '62 until I retired in 2003. -Wonderful. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
Amazing! But, of course, away from Moorcroft, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
which we ought to be talking about, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
and I could talk all day to you, John, of course, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
the next best thing, I think, for two men, are boys' toys. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
-Yes. -Yes. And you've brought in... | 0:35:16 | 0:35:18 | |
And, again, I'm trying to put the toys into context, in terms of date. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
Looking at you and perhaps father who, of course, is a bit too old | 0:35:21 | 0:35:26 | |
for these to have been the great man William's, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
I'm guessing they were yours. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
These were mine, bought by me from new, from Bassett-Lowke, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
who had a shop in Holborn in London at the time, in the early '50s. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Quite right. And, John, talk me through... | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Because what I love about these toys is | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
they are in remarkably good condition. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:45 | |
-You were clearly a very careful child. -I looked after them. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
I inherited certain of my trains from friends and older people | 0:35:49 | 0:35:54 | |
and they were fairly battered when I got them | 0:35:54 | 0:35:56 | |
but, having bought these new, you tend to look after them, | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
keep them oiled and keep them in good condition, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
-and even with the boxes. -Yeah. And what have we got here, John? | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
The engine is a 446 in the early British Railways colours. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:12 | |
Prince Charles is the name of the engine and the two coaches - | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
the one on the box here is the first-class coach | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
and the other one is third-class | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
with the guards van portion underneath. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Yes, and when we look back, historically, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
at the golden age of tin-plate toys, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
of early Hornby, of early Bassett-Lowke... | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
Bassett-Lowke - they began in Northamptonshire in 1948, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
so these were fairly new to the market, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
maybe five or six years later when you, as a young boy... | 0:36:42 | 0:36:46 | |
I'd have been about 14, 15, a teenager, yes. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
Well, you're doing very well, sir. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
A wonderful collection and we've got the boxes. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
The condition is particularly good | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
and this market, as ever, ever so buoyant | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
and in the auction, I would like to put them to a sale | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
with a guide price of between £200 and £300. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
That would be fine. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
And I propose, to keep them safe and well, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
-we perhaps put a reserve at £200 with 10% discretion. -Yes. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:20 | |
Would that be to your approval? May we flog it, Mr Moorcroft? | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
-You may. -May I shake your hand, sir, and say, going, going, gone? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
-Thanks very much. -Thank you. -Pleasure. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
When I heard that the son of one of Britain's greatest ceramicists | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
had come to our "Flog It!" valuation day, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
I couldn't let him go without saying hello. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
What's the secret of Moorcroft's popularity? | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
I think because it's based on natural designs, natural shapes | 0:37:43 | 0:37:47 | |
and it's got colours which are from natural ochres | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
of the world, of the earth. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
And because they're natural, | 0:37:53 | 0:37:55 | |
they don't get dated with the test of time. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
It has that William Morris ethos, doesn't it? | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
That's what it's all about. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:02 | |
Yes, well, Morris and Moorcroft were both believers | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
in the same sort of thing - natural flowers, natural... | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
-Harmonising with nature, inspired by nature. -Yes. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
And the other big thing is its hand-work | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
and people appreciate something which has got craftsmanship in. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
So much today is mass-produced | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
and doesn't have any sort of great originality about it, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
but every piece of Moorcroft, because it's individually made, | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
is an original piece by itself. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
Each one of your little pieces is a document of social history | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
-within itself. -Absolutely, yes. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:36 | |
-Thank you very much for talking to me today. -Not at all. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
Sadly, it's time to say goodbye to this magnificent host location. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
Please, if you're in the area, drop in. It's well worth a visit. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
But right now, we're dropping in on the auction room | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
for the very last time | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
and here's a list of the treasures we're taking with us. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Elaine's pieces of eight are survivors | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
of an incredible true tale of shipwreck and treasure. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:04 | |
The scene on this pretty silver Christening mug | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
put Christina in the mood to party. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
And their link with a British pottery dynasty | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
added to Charles' excitement | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
about these beautiful Bassett-Lowke trains. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
First, it's Elaine's sunken treasure. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Why do you want to sell those? | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
Well, they're just sort of sitting there, you know, not doing anything, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
and "Flog It!" was coming to town. Could I resist you? Not really. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
I think it's the first time ever | 0:39:33 | 0:39:34 | |
-we've had pieces of eight on the show. -It's that romance, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
pieces of eight, and here they are. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
-Is that how you say it? "Pieces of eight?" -Long John Silver. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:43 | |
-Two pieces of eight... -Hold tight. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
..from Sotheby's HMS Association auction, 1969. Ha-ha! | 0:39:45 | 0:39:52 | |
There they are, at £120. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
Two pieces of eight at 120. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:56 | |
130. 140. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
At £140 now. | 0:39:58 | 0:39:59 | |
At £140. All finished then? | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
Come on, one more. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
-Uh-oh, I'm walking the plank. -You ARE walking the plank, Charles. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
-I'm sinking fast. -Not today for those, I'm afraid. Lot 56... | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
-Oh! -We didn't sell. We were one bid away. -One bid away. -I'm sorry! | 0:40:13 | 0:40:18 | |
-So close, Charles. I'm sorry, Captain. -Well, my son's over there. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:22 | |
-He'll inherit them. -Hey, that's even better, isn't it? -Thumbs up, yeah. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Keep them in the family. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:26 | |
Next, it's Alison's silver Christening mug. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
-It was your grandfather's, wasn't it? -Yes. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
Was he ever Christened with it? Was it a present? | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
No, it was something he picked up at an auction. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
He loved the auction scene, did he? Do you like auctions? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
-This is the first one I've ever been to. -Is it really? -Ah! | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
-Oh, my goodness. -Have you got your eye on anything at all? | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
Er, no. No, I daren't. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
Keep your hands down or you might buy something. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
That's why they're behind my back! | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
Silver Christening mug, Chester, 1903. There it is. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
Start the bidding here at £50. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
Oh, brilliant. There we go, straightaway. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
55, where? At £50. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
To a commission at £50. At £50 to a commission bid. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
-Come on, a bit more. -At £50. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
At £50. All finished then at £50. Selling... | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
5 - just in time, at £55. At 55... | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL Done. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
-OK. -£55. -£55 - just a little bit over bottom estimate. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
-Yes, somebody will enjoy it. -Yes, let's hope so. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
Well, it wasn't doing anything in your cabinet, was it? | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
It certainly wasn't. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:24 | |
And finally today, | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
it's John Moorcroft's boyhood train collection. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
He's brought along his wife, Gill, who's even more excited than we are. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
I've been urging him to sell these for 54 years. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
-Did you send him out the door then, did you? -Yes. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
You said, "Get to that "Flog It!" valuation day, go and see Charles. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
-Yeah. -Hey-ho, here we are. OK, where have they been all this time? | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
They've been in the garage for the last 20 years. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Do you know what, you must have a dry garage | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
because the condition's very good and the boxes are good as well. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
-They're not damp and rusty, so... -Well looked after. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
Well looked after and how they should be. | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
We need to get these off to a collector. OK, ready? | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
We're going to put them to the test. Here we go. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
The Bassett-Lowke scale model "O" gauge train, 440 locomotive, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
Prince Charles, number 62078, with tender in dark blue, BR livery. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:12 | |
What about those? At 120. 130. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
£130 now. At 130, Bassett-Lowke. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
-At 130. -Come on! -140. 150. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
150. At 160. 170. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
At £170 now. At 180. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:26 | |
190. At 190. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-200. 210. -Just. -We're in. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
-We're in. -We're choo-chooing. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
220. 230. £230 now. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
At 240. 250. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
250. 260. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
270. At £270 now, in the room. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
280. 290. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
£290. £300. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
320. 320, the bid is in the room. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
340, internet. 360. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:53 | |
£360 now. At 360. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
At 360. 380. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
On the net, 400. The bid is in the room at £400. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
-That's brilliant. -Good. -At £400, are we all finished then? | 0:43:00 | 0:43:03 | |
-At 400. -AUCTIONEER BANGS GAVEL | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
-The hammer's gone down. -Yes! -We're chuffed. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
-And I haven't got to take them home! -£400. We got the top end. -We did. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
I'm so pleased you pushed him out the door. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:43:13 | 0:43:15 | |
-That's one way to £400. -What a way to end today's show. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:18 | |
Sadly, we've run out of time in Shrewsbury but I told you | 0:43:18 | 0:43:21 | |
there'd be a surprise and we had a lovely little one at the end. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Join us again soon for many more but, until then, it's goodbye. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 |