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It's 10? miles long, one mile wide and 219 feet deep, and it's England's largest lake.

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Today, "Flog It!" comes from Windermere.

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Apparently the word Windermere comes from the Scandinavian

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for a lake of a man called Vinand. Our two experts, who I bet

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have also been called strange names in their time, are James Lewis and Adam Partridge.

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So let's see what they can find at today's venue, the Lake School.

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Well, it looks like James and Adam have a lot to get their teeth into.

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But before we take a closer look at all the items they've found, we need to get this massive queue inside.

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And it looks like Adam's showing his musical side already with his first item.

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Good morning, Rebecca. Good morning, Adam.

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Good morning, Thomas.

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Now, what can you tell me about the banjo, please?

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Not much, to be honest. My father-in-law

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heard us talking about "Flog It!" coming and fetched it down for us to bring.

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My husband remembers not being allowed to play with it when he was little, and sneaking a go.

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And apparently, my father-in-law had it when he was a child, as well.

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Well, I'm the "Flog It!" man with the musical instrument reputation.

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I do violins and banjos and cellos and that sort of thing.

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And it's a lovely instrument, in good condition. No cracks, no scratches.

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It probably hasn't been played an awful lot.

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I shouldn't imagine it has.

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In a lot of these, this substance here gets torn. They often get replaced.

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You've even got all the strings, although that doesn't make much difference to the value.

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But it looks in lovely condition. I wish I could play it.

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If it was a violin, we'd empty the room in seconds.

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But, unfortunately, I can't really play much of the banjo.

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We've got a book that goes with it that tells us it's a tenor banjo.

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You've got different types. Quite a large model.

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And the maker there, Jedson, marked on the top.

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It's got a bird's eye maple back.

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Sometimes they have a metal back that's engraved. But I do like this one.

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So he's told you to bring it along.

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Is that because he wants to get rid of it? Yeah, I think he wants the space. He's had enough of it.

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So he's said, "Don't come home with it"? Pretty much!

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What do you think it might be worth?

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No idea. We don't want you going home saying,

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"It's worth 80 quid," and him saying, "I didn't want to sell it for that."

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Well, he should have told me, shouldn't he?

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OK. It's a bit of an old favourite of ours, the estimate of 80 to 120.

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Oh, yeah. We get teased about it a lot.

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But I think it's appropriate on this occasion. OK.

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A reserve of 80. If it doesn't make 80 - it's worth that - then take it home and try it again on another day.

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They're popular, quite collectible, but never make a fortune.

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Is that OK? That's brilliant. Are you going to give him the money if it sells?

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It's going to the young 'un. Thomas gets it. Excellent.

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One way or another. Well, he's been very well behaved so far.

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It's boring talking to so-called antiques experts.

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He's been very good. Thanks for coming along. Thank you.

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And see you at the auction. OK. Thank you very much.

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James, this is the smallest thing I've seen so far today on "Flog It!"

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It's a lovely little thing. Tell me about it.

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Well, my eldest brother gave it to me about 15 years ago.

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He'd buy it in a sale, an auction sale.

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That's about all I really know about it. Do you know what it is?

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Yes, I knew it was a vinaigrette.

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Yes. Absolutely. If we open it up...

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It's a lovely piece of silver.

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It's called a vinaigrette

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because we have a grille here, and if we lift the grille, inside we find an old bit of shrivelled up sponge.

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And that would have been soaked in aromatic vinegar.

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Imagine you're a middle- or upper-class gentleman

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and you have to go in to your local town or city, and the people there are just a little bit not like you.

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And they smell slightly. And you're walking down the street

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and you'd take your vinaigrette out and go...

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And it would literally be there in your pocket to cover the smells

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of the local city and the lower-class people that didn't have a bath.

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And I know it's not politically correct to say it, but that's exactly what it was for.

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They're fantastic comments on social times really, on...

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the way the world was back in 1827 when this was made.

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Vinaigrettes became popular in the 18th century.

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You find most of the ones we see today in the auction rooms were made between 1780 and 1830.

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So this is the end of their production, really, the end of the height of their production.

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But the good thing about this is, if we open it up,

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the two initials there - NM, for Nathaniel Mills.

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Nathaniel Mills was the king of snuff box, vinaigrette and card case makers of the 19th century.

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He's most famed for his "castle tops", things like this with a scene

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of Warwick Castle or Windsor Castle or something like that.

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And those castle top pieces are highly collectible.

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They're worth ten times a normal one like this.

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But even having said that, the quality of the work really does shine through here.

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We have every type of work you could possibly have with silversmithing. We've got the casting here.

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We've got engraving and chasing around this little rectangle -

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the vacant cartouche there for the owner's initials.

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If we open it up, the grille is pierced. The inside is also gilded.

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We've got silver, silver gilt, we've got piercing, we've got engraving, we've got chasing, we've got casting,

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all in that little tiny piece of silver there.

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It's wonderful. So now your brother's given it to you - you've had it 15 years - why do you want to sell it?

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Well, at the present I'm 90, but at the end of December I'll be 91.

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You look good on it.

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Well, I wake up every morning, so I know I'm still here.

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I know that feeling!

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What do you think it's worth? Haven't a clue.

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Would you be pleased with ?100? Oh, certainly.

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I think that's what it's worth.

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If we put 80 to 120 on it, something like that.

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They're not as hot as they were. But I think it'll do well.

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Yes, very good.

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Fran, you've got me going. I was getting excited.

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I thought we'd got some decorative art, some copperware, from the Keswick School. But it's not.

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When you get closer, you can see it's from the Newlyn School. It's full of fish and bubbles.

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So how did you come by this? It's a wonderful...what's known as a chamber handle candlestick.

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In a local charity shop. Really? It was just sitting on the counter.

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Oh, dear! OK. Tell me - how much? ?1. Wow! How long ago was this purchase?

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About three months. Three months. You see, it still is out there.

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Yeah. Normally I go and buy beads. And I found this on the counter.

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I come from Cornwall and the Arts and Crafts movement down there,

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the decorative arts, working with copperwares, well that's where it all started,

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in the Newlyn School, around about 1880, 1890, by John Drew MacKenzie.

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He was an artist and he felt very sorry for the local fishermen.

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In times of bad weather, when they couldn't go out fishing, they had no money, he taught them skills.

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He taught them fretwork and carpentry, and then got them on to metal wares.

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And that's where the golden age really started, when the local fishermen

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were using these traditional skills, these applied methods, using punches and hammers and creating...

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..the shape. Yeah.

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All that's hand hammered with a little, tiny hammer.

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And that's what Newlyn is famous for - the fish, the bubbles and the seaweed.

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They did sign their wares then. This is a slightly later piece, because it's stamped "Newlyn".

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They tended to stamp their wares after about 1920.

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Drew MacKenzie died in 1918

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and I think this was made possibly in about 1930 to 1935.

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It's absolutely lovely.

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It really is. It's got a nice feel when you hold it. Yeah, it has.

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It's well balanced. Obviously this is the drip tray.

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Somebody's tried cleaning this.

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You can see they've left polish all over it in splashes and it's dried.

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That will slightly devalue it. Yes.

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But at the same time, it hasn't been polished to the hilt.

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It's not gleaming, which is a good thing,

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because the purists who collect this type of thing like the copper to be tarnished and dirty.

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I think it's beautiful. So you paid a pound for this? Yes.

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What do you think it's worth? Not sure. I had an offer of 50.

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50. Well, I'm pleased you didn't take it.

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And I had an offer of 100, unseen.

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?100, unseen.

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Right, OK. We're getting closer.

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I think we could safely put this into auction with an estimate starting at ?180. Really? 180? Yes.

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And it might just get 250. Really? Yeah. Will it go in a catalogue?

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Yes. And on the internet.

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And I'm sure this might even sell to someone in Cornwall. Oh, that'd be good.

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Good morning, Helen, good morning, Geoff. Hi.

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You've brought something that clearly appeals to my taste -

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the Art Nouveau movement - lovely thing.

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What can you tell me about this object?

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Well, we bought it back in the '60s, when the kids were little.

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It cost me ?16, which was a fair old whack of my wage. I'm sure it was.

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What attracted you? It's not an Art Nouveau shape,

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but it was an Art Nouveau design, which I was into, and I thought I'd buy myself a nice piece of it.

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We bought that not knowing much about it.

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We've recently discovered it was by Frederick Rhead. That's right.

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But we only saw that in a book quite recently, so I was quite surprised.

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I thought that'll give it some value. This is marked for Wardle Pottery.

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Yes. End of the 19th century, Frederick Rhead was art director there.

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Yeah. 1899 - 1900. And I think Charlotte Rhead...his baby sister?

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His sister. Actually, they say it's possible that she actually did some of the tube lining on it.

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She worked there as a tube liner. That's only possible. Yeah.

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Well, it's a nice idea, isn't it?

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A very appealing design, good colour, good condition for its age.

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There's a little bit of a nick on the base, a bit of a chip.

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I think that was always like that.

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We used to keep an aspidistra in it. But now we don't use it. Because of that and the crazing,

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we thought it could be dangerous to have something heavy inside it,

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so it's now hiding underneath the sideboard rather than on top of it, so we thought we'd sell it.

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You're changing your style, aren't you? Yes.

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All the '60s teak furniture we threw out we're discovering again.

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So it's a '60s house now?

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Not quite. It's a sort of everything house at the moment!

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'50s, '60s, '70s - you name it, we've got it.

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Well, there's a bit of a renaissance of that period.

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Antiques of the future. We're seeing that sort of thing make a lot more, sometimes, than genuine antiques.

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Yeah, I feel quite sorry, some of the stuff I took to the skip. And you're buying it back now?

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30 years later. Any idea of the value?

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Well, as long as it's more than 16 quid. Yeah, yeah!

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But the equivalent. I suppose if it's ?100 or thereabouts, we'll be quite happy with that.

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You've hit the nail on the head.

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In the book there was a similar one at 400 or something. Yeah, but the book prices are...

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Book prices are always optimistic, and that's the sort of insurance, retail, perfect condition etc.

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I reckon this at ?100 to ?150 estimate, a reserve of ?90 to stop it going for less.

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That would be fine. Hope we get it away somewhere between, or ideally at the top end of that estimate.

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I don't think it's going to shock us and make much more than that.

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I don't think they're particularly popular any more. No.

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But I really like it so, hopefully, others'll really like it.

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I showed it to a couple of colleagues here and they went, "That's nice."

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All you need's two people.

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They can have it for 200 if they want! Yeah!

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We're about halfway through our day, which means it's time to put some of those theories to the test.

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It's time for our first visit to the auction room,

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so here's a quick recap of all the items that are going to go under the hammer.

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Rebecca's father-in-law heard "Flog It!" was in town,

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so he dug this banjo out of the loft for her to bring along today.

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Hope I'm looking as good at 90 as James does!

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He brought in this silver vinaigrette which I think

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might do a little better than James Lewis's valuation of ?80 to ?120.

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My Cornish roots certainly make me appreciate Fran's Newlyn candle holder,

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and finally Geoff and Helen seem to have made a shrewd investment

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with this jardiniere they bought for just ?16 back in the '60s.

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Penrith Farmers are our auctioneers for today's proceedings.

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Let's go inside and catch up with the man with the gavel,

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the man with all the local knowledge, Alan Atkinson.

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OK, Alan. Now, this is my valuation.

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I'm the Cornishman,

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this is Newlyn Arts and Crafts copperwork,

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and I know you love your Keswick School.

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Yes, we do. You're from up here.

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I put 180 with a bit of discretion on this,

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which takes it down to 150.

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But I'm hoping it'll do that 180, 220 price range.

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It needs a bit of cleaning.

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That's not going to put the buyers off!

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I think we might struggle on that. Do you? Yep.

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Will the Keswick collectors be just too curious...

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They collectors won't take that.

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They won't take that? No, not whatsoever. No.

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They collect Keswick and that's it.

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I'm still pretty sure that's going to sell.

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It's on the internet, there's a lot of collectors for this.

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When it's been out on three internet sites,

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we might find there will be people coming for it, but it won't be Keswick collectors.

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We need someone that loves the Newlyn School, someone from down in Cornwall.

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Nice bit of stuff down there.

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Proper job. Proper job, yeah!

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We'll find out in a minute just who's right.

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But first it's Rebecca's banjo going under the hammer.

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Let's see if we're playing the right tune.

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We've got a 20th century banjo, brought in by Rebecca. Whose is it?

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It's my father-in-law's, he sent me with it.

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Did he play it well?

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I don't think he played it. That's why I've brought it.

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It looks in perfect condition. I was musing over it with the auctioneer.

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I know you've looked at it and strummed it and plucked it,

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and thought, "That's nice." 80 to 120.

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We think it could do a little bit more, maybe 120 to 180.

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Yeah, possibly. Good make.

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A lot of these things, that's the right area, between 100 and 200.

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So, you have the old 80 to 120 favourite.

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Come in and buy me, it's a good encore.

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I think it's going to do well.

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Lot 632, the tenor banjo.

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There we go. I've ?70 bid. 70 bid.

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80. 80 bid. ?80.

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90, 100, 110.

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110. At ?110 bid.

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Anywhere else? At ?110 and selling, all done at ?110.

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Bang in estimate. Yeah.

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Well done. Thank you very much. That's not bad, ?110.

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He'll be happy with that. Oh, yes. You're happy.

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Everybody's happy. What are you going to put the money towards?

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We're going to invest it for our little baby.

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Grandfather sent it down for him. Set up a little bank account.

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Yeah, something like that.

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That's nice. Hopefully in a few years there will be a couple of grand. Yeah, you never know.

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This is a "Flog It!" story we all love, and it belongs to Fran.

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So does the item, that lovely bit of Newlyn copper, the chamber candlestick.

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Bought, tell us where again? In a charity shop for a pound.

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And that was only a few months ago.

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Yes, about three months ago.

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And I've put ?180 on it because I love Newlyn copper

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and I am from Cornwall, and it means a lot to me.

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Now, I had a chat with the auctioneer,

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and because he loves the Keswick School, he thinks I've overcooked it slightly.

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Yes, I did wonder

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whether it would sell up here.

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I'm going to stick by my guns. I have to, really.

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I still wants that 180. We've got a bit of discretion on it, it could go for 160.

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So, fingers crossed. Fine.

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You'd still be happy. Very happy for a pound!

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Exactly. Here it is, it's going under the hammer now. Now?

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The Newlyn copper chamber candlestick there,

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and it's stamped Newlyn as well.

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I've ?100 bid. ?100.

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At 100. 100 bid.

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?100. At ?100 bid.

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And 10. 110.

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At 110. We're struggling. 110.

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?110.

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It's not going to sell. At 110...

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Not sold. No sale.

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Do you know what you've got to do? Send it to Newlyn.

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Yes. Parcel it up, pick it up from the auction room later on,

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save wasting a trip coming back.

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Take it home, get on the phone to a few auction houses in Cornwall,

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tell them what you've got,

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send them a photograph and send it down. I'll do that.

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Well, here I am, surrounded by Jameses.

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James our owner and James our expert.

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But we have that wonderful Nathaniel Mills little silver vinaigrette, good Birmingham maker.

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80 to 120, that's James's valuation. I've had a chat to the auctioneer.

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Now, you don't know this, but he said, good valuation,

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but it will do the top end. It'll do around 150, 180.

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Hope so. Should do. It's quality, and we've seen them do that before.

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Happy bunny? Really happy.

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What will you put the money towards?

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It'll probably go towards a party.

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A party. I don't blame you!

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I might buy a bottle of champagne.

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A good old knees-up! Lot 197, the vinaigrette.

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I've ?100 bid for it.

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And 10. 110.

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120, 130, 140. ?140 bid.

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At 140. Come on, bit more.

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?140 the lot. 150, 160.

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160. At ?160 bid.

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?160 the lot, at 160.

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The hammer's gone down. We'll settle for that.

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That's fine, isn't it? ?160, James.

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Better than being tucked away in that cupboard. Exactly.

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And the chances are, it's so tiny, it might just get lost.

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Yes. Thanks very much for coming in.

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Enjoy your 91st birthday and I hope that party goes really well.

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Fine. Thank you. It will.

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What I want to know is, where is the aspidistra?

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We have Helen and Geoff, and the jardiniere is just about to go under the hammer.

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Were you happy with the valuation? We got ?100 to ?150 on that.

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Yes. Yes, the valuation is fine.

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Why are you getting rid of it? It's in the Arts and Crafts style, you absolutely love that.

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We've had it 40-odd years and it's time for a change.

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We like a lot of different things. Do you? OK.

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Lot number 30, the jardiniere by Rhead.

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I have ?50 bid. 50, 60. ?60 the lot. At 60. 60 bid.

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70, 80, 90. ?90 bid.

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100, and 10. 110.

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120, 130. This is good.

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130, 140, 160... 160.

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180, 200.

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200...and 20.

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250. 250.

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280, 300.

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320, 350.

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380, 400.

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?400 in front now. At 400, I'm selling. At ?400.

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The hammer has just gone down.

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Helen, if you knew it was that valuable,

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would you have liked to have kept it?

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Maybe! Maybe.

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Well I think Arts and Crafts are still all the rage at that sort of price.

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Brilliant. Thanks so much for coming in.

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Adam, what a price! That's a great price.

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They had two phone bidders, the internet's picked it up.

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You know, a "come and buy me" estimate usually works very well.

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Keep investing in Arts and Crafts. And Art Nouveau. And Art Nouveau.

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I'm going to buy a jardiniere! He's going to...!

0:21:550:21:57

Bodes well for my collection, too! I'm really pleased for you.

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Thank you. OK, cheers.

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It's been to the top of Everest and to both the North and South Pole,

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and it's also an essential item in the ration kit of the British Army.

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Now, I bet you can't guess what I'm talking about, can you? I'm going to give you a clue.

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You see the town below me just down there?

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Well, that's Kendal. Yeah, you've guessed it.

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We're talking about Kendal Mint Cake and here is what it's all about.

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There are only three companies that make the mint cake here in Kendal -

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that's Quiggins, Wilsons and Romneys, which I'm at now.

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One person who knows all there is to know about mint cake is John Barran.

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He's going to talk me through the manufacturing process.

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Kendal Mint Cake was supposedly developed by a Kendal confectioner called Joseph Wiper.

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Whilst he was making some glacier mints, Wiper took his eyes off the cooking pan

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and when he looked back, he discovered the mixture had become cloudy and grainy.

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The Kendal Mint Cake was born, and because of its high energy content,

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Kendal Mint Cake was taken on Shackleton's 1914 trans-Antarctic expedition

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and was eaten on the top of Mount Everest by Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay in 1953.

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If you could smell the aroma in this room, your eyes would be smarting too.

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There's such a strong smell of mint,

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and I'm sure these guys will never get a cold during the winter.

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John, pleasure to meet you. Hi, Paul.

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Do you get used to the smell,

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because honestly, my eyes are smarting and my head is pounding.

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If I go away for a week and come back, I would be in the same situation.

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It would be running down my face.

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It certainly clears your sinuses, doesn't it? It does.

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When did it really hit the scenes, then? When did it become big?

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Probably about 1915, something like that, when they started taking it on expeditions.

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That's when people realised it did have a good energy source from the glucose.

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It's been a lot of expeditions.

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We advertise it in some of the climbing magazines as well.

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And you can keep up the demand?

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Yes. It's always there.

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It's in supermarkets. We supply some of the supermarkets, but we still do all the little shops, yes.

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And do you export all over the world? Not as much now, no.

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We used to do a lot, but we supply to the Army for army rations

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and things like that, so it goes all over the place.

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It ends up around the world, put it that way. It does, yes.

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A simple mixture of water, glucose and sugar is used to make the mint cake.

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This is mixed and heated for ten minutes until poured.

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Will you talk me through some of the process?

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The process at the moment, we have just poured out the mint cake into these copper pans.

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Again, these are what they used to use, the old copper pans.

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This is the secret mix. We shouldn't be filming this.

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But this is where the mint gets added, and now Jamie, this is called the graining.

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We grain the side of the pan.

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If we didn't do this it wouldn't set.

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So, he has got to do this to the right consistency to get it to set.

0:25:140:25:19

OK, so what happens after that?

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Once Jamie has done that and grained it,

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we will put it onto the trolley and we will pour it out into the slabs.

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Shall we do that? Yes. There are lots of trays.

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There is.

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So, Tony is now ladling this out.

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Yes, he is.

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In years gone by they used to just pour it out by hand, but now

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with health and safety we have to just ladle it out into the moulds.

0:25:490:25:53

This is still hot. Very hot.

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It would take your skin off in a matter of seconds if you happen to dip your hand in, yes.

0:25:540:25:59

How long will this take to set?

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This just sets naturally. Not long.

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Probably about 10 to 15 minutes.

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And then it's safe to handle and take out the moulds.

0:26:060:26:09

Can I have a go at pouring some?

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I'm not going to let you, because I don't want you

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making a mess of my floor, so what I have got here is some children's sized moulds. OK.

0:26:130:26:19

So, I will let you pour it out. I'll just show you how it's done.

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You just go along and pour into the moulds.

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Not so bad at all.

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You've got the job. Got the job, have I?

0:26:350:26:38

So, what, in about ten minutes' time, this should be set? Correct.

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I'm going to eat some of my own handiwork.

0:26:440:26:48

We were talking about Sir Edmund Hillary earlier, and the fact that

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every great explorer would have this in his pocket.

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Has it lost any popularity because of all these new energy drinks and bars that have come out?

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It is hard to tell. I would say maybe a little bit.

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There is still a lot of climbers who want to take it with them.

0:27:050:27:08

One of the advantages that mint cake does have over the other energy drinks and things like that

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is that it doesn't freeze, it doesn't melt, and it's also good for your digestive system.

0:27:130:27:17

Exactly, the mint would be.

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It's got the history with it, which is very lucky.

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It's the British tradition.

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That's what it's all about. And it keeps well, that's it, like you say.

0:27:240:27:27

How many of these little trays do you guys do a day?

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Boilings, we'll do probably about nine or ten boilings a day.

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What does that equate to in bars?

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In bars, probably... Again, depending on what size we make them into,

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but you're looking at about 7,000 bars a day.

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7,000 bars a day!

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My word, it is popular, isn't it? In the small ones, anyway.

0:27:460:27:49

At what stage do you bash this out, or turn it over and spring it out?

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Any time now. Are you going to flip one out for me?

0:28:010:28:03

Yes, we can do that for you.

0:28:030:28:06

That's how easy they come out. And that's how easy it is.

0:28:080:28:12

And what happens to them now?

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They will be taken across onto another bench to cool for another 20 minutes,

0:28:140:28:19

and then they will be broken up into the various different sizes.

0:28:190:28:22

And then put into their packets? That's it.

0:28:220:28:24

And then, ready for testing.

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That's what we like. There we go, John, it's perfectly set now.

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It is, yes. Are you going to do the honours? Yes, I'll let you try.

0:28:300:28:34

Break it out, there we go.

0:28:340:28:35

That's lovely. Nice and minty. Mmm.

0:28:380:28:41

I just need a cup of coffee now! That's it.

0:28:410:28:44

It's time to get straight back to the valuation day and I think the Lake School is in that

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direction about 15 miles away if I run in a straight line.

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And with a bar of Kendal Mint Cake that size, I reckon I can jog it in 15 minutes.

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Tony, I have to say, whenever I see a bit of wood in the queue I pounce on it.

0:29:240:29:28

You're as keen to flog this as me.

0:29:280:29:30

You were first in the queue. What time did you get there this morning?

0:29:300:29:34

About 7.10am. Oh, I was still in bed!

0:29:340:29:37

This is really nice.

0:29:370:29:39

What we actually have here is an Edwardian mahogany stationery and desk companion.

0:29:390:29:45

Something that you could have on your flat writing desk.

0:29:450:29:48

If we just look at the front of here, there's a nice light

0:29:480:29:52

colour in the centre and it sort of warms up as you get to the outside.

0:29:520:29:57

And where the grooves are here, that line there's got 100 years of dirt, because

0:29:570:30:02

this piece is about 1900-1910, so it's been around a long time.

0:30:020:30:07

Is it a family piece?

0:30:070:30:08

It did belong to my father-in-law but my wife asked him when she was

0:30:080:30:12

a little girl if she could have it sometime in the future.

0:30:120:30:17

And eventually, after we'd been married for 10, 15 years he brought it and gave it to us.

0:30:170:30:22

He made her wait then! Yes, he did make her wait.

0:30:220:30:24

As far as my mother-in-law was concerned, she knew that my

0:30:240:30:27

father-in-law kept secret documents of some description in there

0:30:270:30:32

and it was always kept locked and she never had the key to it.

0:30:320:30:38

She tried to break in with a knife. Hence the scratches on the front.

0:30:380:30:42

Ah, that's what this is all about. Well, let's have a look.

0:30:420:30:45

Luckily it's unlocked now so it's a little bit easier to get into.

0:30:450:30:48

So if we undo these three doors here, it really is

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very nicely fitted. We've got these sections here for stationery, we've got the date

0:30:520:30:57

apertures at the top, and those can be changed by turning these little knobs on the top there.

0:30:570:31:03

Here we have an aide memoire so you can put all the things you need to do

0:31:030:31:06

for the day or the week on there and rub them out when you're done.

0:31:060:31:10

In the base here, it's seen better days this piece, really,

0:31:100:31:14

because if you look at it from the outside and it's not too bad,

0:31:140:31:19

but this handle

0:31:190:31:22

is not good. This is a writing slate but it's sadly come into two parts now.

0:31:220:31:28

Yeah.

0:31:280:31:30

There we are, tooled leather, been split, lost its hinges. Do you have those hinges somewhere?

0:31:300:31:36

They'd deteriorated so much I didn't think it was worth keeping.

0:31:360:31:40

Well, they can be replaced, it's not too bad.

0:31:400:31:42

Overall, it's not a bad thing.

0:31:420:31:44

The things that are wrong with it are fairly straight forward to put right.

0:31:440:31:50

So with all those family memories why does you wife... Does your wife know you're going to sell it?

0:31:500:31:54

We used to live in an old house but we've moved into a modern bungalow and it's just stuck

0:31:540:32:01

in the wardrobe doing nothing. Let me talk about value.

0:32:010:32:05

It's not greatly valuable because there are so many people wanting to sell them.

0:32:050:32:10

But if that was done up and sorted out it would be,

0:32:100:32:12

you know, a few hundred pounds in a retailer's shop, so taking into consideration... Oops, there we go!

0:32:120:32:18

..the damage, the scratches and the fact that we're selling it by auction, I would say ?80 to ?120.

0:32:180:32:26

Might make ?140, ?150 on a good day.

0:32:260:32:30

Yeah. So is that OK for you?

0:32:300:32:32

Yeah, that sounds OK. You need to put a reserve on it.

0:32:320:32:34

A hundred. Fine. Let's put 100 to 150 on it as the estimate. ?100 reserve, let's see what happens.

0:32:340:32:40

OK.

0:32:400:32:42

What a fantastic collection of pens.

0:32:490:32:51

How long have you been collecting these?

0:32:510:32:54

Oh, as long as 20 years.

0:32:540:32:55

20 years, and where have you been getting them from?

0:32:550:32:59

Oh, anywhere that I come across them.

0:32:590:33:01

Job lots at auction sales and junk shops and anywhere I see them.

0:33:010:33:06

Have you got a favourite? That one, I think it's quite attractive.

0:33:060:33:10

It is attractive. A lot of them are very attractive, aren't they?

0:33:100:33:13

This is a Conway Stewart. Yes.

0:33:130:33:15

We've got a lot of different manufacturers of pens here.

0:33:150:33:17

Big names like Parker, Schaffer, Waterman's, Swan, all sorts.

0:33:170:33:22

I quite like these marbleised ones as well. Yes.

0:33:220:33:26

You've got a couple in their boxes as well.

0:33:260:33:28

This is a nice one here, the Waterman's one, still in the box

0:33:280:33:31

and this one's got 14-carat gold mounts so quite a nice pen that one, the Waterman's one.

0:33:310:33:38

So that's, you know, some value in its own right.

0:33:380:33:40

This one's a Swan and I believe this one you've had for the longest.

0:33:400:33:44

I think I had that when I was 11.

0:33:440:33:47

This one was your school pen? Yes. Well, that's lovely, isn't it?

0:33:470:33:51

Still in pretty good condition, you must have looked after it. Yes.

0:33:510:33:54

Didn't chew the end or anything. No.

0:33:540:33:56

And a lot of these even have 14-carat nibs as well, the majority.

0:33:560:34:00

A lot of them, yes. You've also got a few pencils.

0:34:000:34:02

There's a collection of propelling pencils, including one of these old advertising pencils.

0:34:020:34:07

And you've got two silver pencils as well. Yes.

0:34:070:34:10

So, what made you collect pens? I don't know.

0:34:100:34:13

I think people kept finding them in their cupboards and just adding them to my collection and saying...

0:34:130:34:18

Right. I must admit I've hung on to

0:34:180:34:21

a few pens that I've found here and now, I've probably got a few but nowhere near as many as this. No.

0:34:210:34:26

What was the most reasonable one?

0:34:260:34:28

Erm, there must have been some that were 50p but some that were two or three pounds. 50p.

0:34:280:34:33

So, they've all been between 50p and a couple of pounds? Probably. Right.

0:34:330:34:37

It's a nice collection. A lot of collectors out there.

0:34:370:34:40

I think it's probably going to make ?100 to ?150.

0:34:400:34:43

What do you think? Lovely.

0:34:430:34:45

Is that what you thought or...? Wonderful, yes. Yes? Yes, brilliant.

0:34:450:34:48

And we'll put a reserve maybe just below at 90. Yes.

0:34:480:34:51

Well, that's great, thank you very much for bringing them along, it's a good collection of pens. Thank you.

0:34:510:34:56

Now Warren, you don't seem the sort of bloke who would wear a brooch like this. Thank you.

0:35:040:35:09

So, tell me, how do you come to have it in your possession?

0:35:090:35:12

I actually found it when I was shopping in a department store.

0:35:120:35:16

Golly! Hand it in or did you just whip it straight into your pocket?

0:35:160:35:19

No, I did hand it in yes, definitely. Did the right thing?

0:35:190:35:22

Three months later I got a call to say nobody had claimed it

0:35:220:35:25

and if you wanted it it was yours, so... Wow!

0:35:250:35:28

Fantastic. How long ago?

0:35:280:35:30

I've had it about nine years.

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Because it was an old thing even then. Yeah.

0:35:330:35:36

Do you know much about it? I don't, no.

0:35:360:35:38

Well, whenever we look at this sort of silverwork, it's very stylised but based on foliage.

0:35:380:35:45

These leaves are known as honesty leaves. Right.

0:35:450:35:50

And it's a typical motif of Art Nouveau silverware.

0:35:500:35:52

And when you find it in this combination of blue and green enamel as well, that's typical 1900 to 1910,

0:35:520:36:00

somewhere around that date. And having looked

0:36:000:36:03

at the hallmark, it's the Birmingham hallmark for 1909.

0:36:030:36:06

So, when you found it, it was an 80-year-old brooch somebody dropped.

0:36:060:36:10

Yeah. You found an interesting thing.

0:36:100:36:13

Good. A maker called J Fenton of Birmingham. Yeah.

0:36:130:36:17

When we look at this sort of work, we think of Charles Horner.

0:36:170:36:21

He is the most famous of all the Art Nouveau silversmiths. Right.

0:36:210:36:24

And this sort of combination of enamel and silver you think in terms of Liberty.

0:36:240:36:29

If it was a larger piece you'd think in terms of Archibald Knox.

0:36:290:36:32

But this maker, still fairly well-known, but not one of the most well-known. Yeah.

0:36:320:36:37

Don't want to give it to a girlfriend or wife? I gave it to the wife

0:36:370:36:40

but it's been in her jewellery box for a good nine, ten years.

0:36:400:36:44

And she's never worn it? She's not interested, really, so...

0:36:440:36:46

Oh, what a shame because that would polish up beautifully.

0:36:460:36:50

I think it would. It looks a bit dull at the moment so...

0:36:500:36:52

But a slight rub with a silver cloth and that would shine.

0:36:520:36:55

Bring it up, yeah. OK. So, no point in keeping it then?

0:36:550:36:59

Don't think so. Let's sell it. 80 to ?100.

0:36:590:37:02

Oh, very nice. Is that all right? It sounds good. Can't be bad.

0:37:020:37:04

Can't be bad at all.

0:37:040:37:06

Let's hope Alan can keep up the good work at the auction in Penrith.

0:37:090:37:12

James loves Tony's mahogany bureau but feels the slight damage might just hold the price back.

0:37:120:37:19

Margaret's been collecting pens and pencils for over 20 years.

0:37:190:37:23

Adam thinks someone should get a good deal with his estimate of 100 to ?150.

0:37:230:37:29

And they say honest is the best policy and it was for Warren.

0:37:290:37:32

He found this enamel brooch at a department store, handed it in

0:37:320:37:35

and James thinks he should be rewarded with at least ?100.

0:37:350:37:39

I love this, Tony. A mahogany bureau from the early 1900s.

0:37:490:37:52

It's got the look and it hasn't been on display, has it?

0:37:520:37:55

No. In your house? No. It's been in the wardrobe.

0:37:550:37:58

Yes. It's been prised open with a knife as well.

0:37:580:38:00

We're looking at 100, ?150.

0:38:000:38:02

I'm pretty sure we're going to get the top end of that.

0:38:020:38:04

It's quality all the way and it's a bit of functional kit.

0:38:040:38:08

I would keep things in it, use it.

0:38:080:38:10

And so would you, I know. It's a desk top toy.

0:38:100:38:12

It's wonderful. I mean I really like it.

0:38:120:38:14

If it was mine it wouldn't be in the auction. No.

0:38:140:38:17

So, actually... Plenty of people here, aren't there?

0:38:170:38:20

Exactly. It's here to sell at that sort of price.

0:38:200:38:23

Why are you selling it?

0:38:230:38:25

My wife got it left to her by her father and it's been, like I say, stuck in the wardrobe.

0:38:250:38:30

It's not on display.

0:38:300:38:31

Can't you put it anywhere in the house?

0:38:310:38:34

Visually, it's quite stunning. She's found somewhere now.

0:38:340:38:37

It's too late. Too late.

0:38:370:38:40

Tony, good luck, it's just about to go under the hammer.

0:38:400:38:43

We can't think of things like that now. This is it.

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Lot 467, the very nice stationery cabinet-cum-desk there.

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Rather nice one. I have ?100 bid.

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120, 150, 180,

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200, ?200 bid,

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?200 bid, at ?200 I'm selling. 220.

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Oh, 220.

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240, 240, ?240,

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all done at ?240.

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Yes, that's a sold sound.

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The hammer's gone down. Good result.

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Quality always sells.

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What are you going to do with that? 240 quid less some commission.

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Well, it's my wife's so she doesn't know what she's going to do with it.

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Save it for a rainy day, pay some bills.

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If it hadn't sold, she wouldn't have been disappointed, anyway.

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Cos she's now found a place for it. Yeah.

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Margaret, is it time to say goodbye to those pens and pencils?

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Have we got that value right, 100 to ?150? I hope so.

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We're about to do battle in the auction room and find out if the pen is mightier than the sword.

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?150 top end, that's what we want. There's a lot there.

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If you divide them by the amount of pens, it works out reasonably so...

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Yeah. Fairly reasonably.

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Exactly. Oh, you sounded a bit disappointed then.

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Well, we'll see.

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There's a lot of collecting there. Yes.

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Good luck. They're just about to go under the hammer.

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Lot number 494, collection of pens and propelling pencils,

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the whole lot of them there.

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Various bids, I've ?70 bid, 70,

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80, 90, 100 and 10, 120, 130, 140.

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Oh, they love it. They love it, they love it.

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160, at ?160 bid.

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160, 180, 180. At 180, 180.

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With Janet now at ?180, I'm selling now, all done at ?180.

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I like the sound of that.

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180! Happy with that?

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Yes, thank you. Yes. That is brilliant, isn't it?

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Yes. Lots of memories, well worth collecting over a period of time. Yes.

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It doesn't financially hit the pocket straightaway.

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You can collect over a period of years.

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And when you sell, there's a nice reward. Yes.

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Now, we're going to do it classic bit of recycling.

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I've just been joined by Warren and we have that lovely honesty brooch.

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And you are an honest guy, as well.

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This brooch, found in a department store tne years ago, was handed in.

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Nobody claimed it. I bet you thought it was your lucky day. I did, yes.

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But the missus didn't like it. No.

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And then "Flog It!" came to town and the rest

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is history because our expert, James, has put 80 to ?100 on this.

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Not bad. Not bad at all. Will we get any more?

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It might make top end and possibly a bit over.

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We'll see. We'll see. It's full, isn't it?

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It's packed. Jammed full of bidders and they're not sitting on their hands, which is a good thing.

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I'd like to see 120. I'd like to see just a bit over his...

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We'd all like to see more, wouldn't we?

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That's what we're pinning our hopes on. Good luck!

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Lot 154. The honesty brooch.

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A nice one there.

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Various bits of interest.

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I have ?100 bid. 110. 120. 130.

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Ooh! See!

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150. 150 bid.

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160. 170.

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180. 190.

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I think this was a "come and buy me" from James. 200.

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220.

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240.

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?240. 240 on my right now with the gentleman. ?240.

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Yes! 240 quid, Warren! That's fantastic!

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A lot better than ?100.

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I knew it all along!

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Wow! Wow, wow, wow!

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Well pleased with that. What are you going to do with that money?

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I think the wife will spend it on some jewellery.

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Is she? Something that she does like and can wear. Exactly.

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Is she here today? Yeah.

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I bet she enjoyed that. She'll be well pleased.

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Just as we all did.

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Say no more.

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The auction is still going on but it's all over

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for our owners and we've had a marvellous day up here in the Lakes.

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If you've got anything you're unsure about that you want to flog,

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bring them to a valuation days and we'll see what we can do for you.

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