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Here we are in Portsmouth. Much of the old city was destroyed by bombing

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during the Second World War including Guildhall, which was renovated in the post-war years.

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Today, it's home to Flog It!

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The Queen reopened the rebuilt Guildhall in 1959.

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We've got a queue that snakes around the corner.

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It's 9.30am. We should get them inside.

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The honours are down to our very own "Flog It!" queen Anita Manning

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and her Prince Charming, James Lewis.

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-Will you do the honours?

-Of course.

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Let's do it and get them all in.

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Portsmouth has come out in force. Anita has found something magic.

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Robert, I can imagine hours of endless fun

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-looking at these slides through a magic lantern.

-Yeah.

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Tell me, where did you get them?

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They're my wife's.

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They were used to entertain her when she was small.

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They were my father-in-law's, and this kit came out of his flat when we cleared it some years ago.

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From what I've been told this morning by some people, many of the slides are probably much older.

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They may have been used for entertaining HIM. He was born in 1907.

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Now, your magic lantern has seen better days!

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Has it ever! ANITA LAUGHS

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This has very little value.

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It wasn't the best of quality. I've seen some beautiful ones,

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which are brass bound, with beautiful oak trimmings.

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The lenses are good, though, which is what matters.

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-I think the value here lies in your slides.

-I understand that.

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Now, we have about 12 or 15 boxes of slides

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from Victorian times, up until the '30s and some classics.

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We have the Disney ones here.

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This will make it interesting.

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These three here are of particular interest,

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and these are older ones as well.

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Whereas these are stills, what you've got here are the movies.

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And, if we can pick one up, the slide would be put in...

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..and what you've got is a crazy bearded Scotsman

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brandishing weapons...

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And if you pull this slide back, there he is...

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shooting someone with a pistol.

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So, late Victorian, early Edwardian but it's super. I love it to bits.

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-You don't use them at all?

-No.

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Have they been in the attic or a cupboard or...?

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They've been promoted from the roof to the corner of a bedroom, in a box.

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-Robert, it's time to get rid of this stuff.

-That's the idea!

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When my son has to clear out my house, there will be one thing less for him to hump out to the car!

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Let's sell them, let them go on to collectors

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let them get the pleasure of it and let you get the dosh.

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They are not worth a huge amount of money.

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Robert, I'd like to put a value...

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-of 100 to £150.

-Yes.

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Would you be happy to sell them at that?

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Yes, I'd hope they would do better.

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I'd hope they would do better as well. I tend to estimate conservatively.

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So, 100 to 150.

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A reserve of 100 with discretion.

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I'll be there on the day to cheer them on and hold your hand.

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-That will be fine.

-We'll see you on the day, Robert.

-Lovely. Thank you.

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-Thank you for bringing them in.

-Thank you.

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Robert, you've bought a Pratt in for us. I'm not being rude, but that's what we're looking at.

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A piece of Prattware.

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Prattware, made in Staffordshire. The factory started in 1818,

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they were making this sort of thing throughout the 19th century,

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but this is as good an example as you'll ever see.

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Has it been in your family since new or was it something you found?

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It's been passed down through my family, through my parents.

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I think it came from my nan originally.

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Well, of all the makers and designers, you've got a very good example.

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J Austin.

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-Two signatures. Have you noticed both?

-I only noticed the one.

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-You hadn't noticed the Austin one?

-No.

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OK.

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The other one, the obvious one, T Webster, 1834.

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Thomas Webster was the artist who painted the original subject.

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The original oil painting would have been painted by Thomas Webster, but J Austin

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would have taken the original oil painting,

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converted it to an engraving that could be printed on to pottery and porcelain.

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This is known as The Truant. There's a school lesson going on inside, and he's late.

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The interesting thing is if we turn it over,

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it's not the standard Pratt mark. It says, "F&R Pratt and Co, Fenton.

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"Manufacturers to HRH Prince Albert."

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Never, ever seen that mark before.

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So, we refer to the bible.

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The bible of marks. This is a book by Geoffrey Godden.

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It's the book on pottery and porcelain marks of Great Britain.

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Turn to this page here, look under Pratt, here's the mark.

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It says, "Rare printed mark, 1847 to 1860.

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"Found only on the fine quality Etruscan pattern vases and fine printed wares."

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So, it gives a good example of its quality. So, value.

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I've seen them with cracks making £10 or £15.

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But this is a really nice one. I think this should make £60 to £100.

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-Is that all right?

-Yeah.

-Saying that it's something that's only transfer printed

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by a fairly standard portrait factory in Staffordshire, that's not bad.

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1847 to 1860 in date. A good thing.

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-Very interesting.

-Shall we sell it?

-Yeah.

-Let's take it to the auction and flog it.

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Michael, I thought we were going curling for a minute when I saw this from a distance!

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-But we're not, are we?

-No.

-This was for talcum powder.

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It's beautiful. Tell me how it came in your possession.

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It belonged to my mother.

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When she passed away, it came to me.

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It was given to her, she told me, by an admirer. A gentleman who was very wealthy.

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She told me he collected anything to do with Napoleon.

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She told me it had belonged to the Empress Josephine.

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We've got the fleur-de-lis.

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But we don't know who the coat of arms is.

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I suspect this was made for somebody and that was their coat of arms.

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Paul, are these fleur-de-lis? I can't see without my glasses.

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The glaze has slightly run, but I think they are.

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I've got my Sherlock Holmes in my pocket.

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-Oh, yes, they are.

-Why do you carry that about?

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My eyesight is weak. I'm antique myself!

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It's cheaper than buying specs, I suppose!

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-It's elementary, dear Watson.

-Absolutely.

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C'est la vie!

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On at the reverse, we've got Sarreguemines, the name of the company.

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The factory was based on the river Sar,

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and this really is a French version of majolica, in a way.

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The company was set up by Paul Utschneider.

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-You can see the U and the S.

-His monogram.

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His monogram is scribbled through it.

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It makes it look messy, but it's not.

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That was the back stamp.

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-The firm dates back to round about 1770s.

-Yes.

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It made its wares up until 1920.

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This is quite rare. To think that this was full of talcum powder

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with a big powder puff.

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-My mother kept small jewellery in there.

-That's a nice idea.

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It's in very good condition.

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I put the date on this at around...

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-1880 to 1900.

-As late as that?

-Yes.

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-It's late Victorian.

-Is it? Not earlier?

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I'd like to think it was 1815, to correlate with Josephine and Napoleon, but it's a bit late.

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-I thought that was doubtful.

-A little bit doubtful.

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-If I said to you this might reach around £50 to £70?

-As modest as that?

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-Not much, is it?

-No. Not a lot.

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You couldn't buy that for 50 quid today, could you?

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No.

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But it's got to go to a collector because there's not much use for it.

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It's OK to go ahead with that, Paul.

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Happy to do that? 50 to £70.

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A reserve of 45.

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See what happens.

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Oh, dear. I haven't upset you, have I? I haven't ruined your day out on "Flog It!"

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-You've queued for six hours to be told...

-No, not at all.

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..it's not that item that Josephine would have owned from 1815.

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I was suspicious about that. To quote dear old Napoleon, "Not tonight, Josephine."

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Sadly, not tonight, Michael.

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Vera, a Beatles belt!

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-Did you buy it in Carnaby Street?

-No.

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Tell me, where did you get it?

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Well, my husband, um, at work, he had a workmate,

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and he said, "Would you like this belt for one of your boys?"

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-That's how I came across it.

-Did the boys wear it?

-No.

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Were they more interested in the Rolling Stones?

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-Yes, more likely.

-So, where has it been? Who's been wearing it?

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Nobody's been wearing it. I rolled it up,

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and put it in a jar, and forgot about it.

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-So it's been there since...

-1964.

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-1964.

-Yeah.

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-And what made you pull it out?

-I was doing the cupboards

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to take to a car boot. And I saw it there,

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and I gave it to my grandson. He wanted it, so I gave it to him.

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So when I see "Flog It!", I asked him if he still had it,

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-and brought it...

-It might be worth a couple of bob!

-Yes.

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It would be for him, anyway.

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Well, there is an increasing market in this type of memorabilia.

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It's never been a thing of high quality,

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but then, these things weren't.

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I would say it's in good condition, cos it's been in a jar

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-for 40-odd years!

-Yes.

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What about price, Vera?

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If you were taking it to a car boot sale, what would you sell it for?

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-I wouldn't take it to a car boot!

-You wouldn't?

-No.

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I think, if we estimate it between £30 and £40,

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it will appeal to Beatles collectors

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in the room, but it will also go on the internet,

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so we're appealing to a wider market, and it will find its own level.

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-Are you happy to sell it at that price?

-Yes, please.

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Let's put it to sale, let the market decide, and let's hope that it does very well.

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Let's have another look at what we have to tempt the bidders.

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There's no doubting the authenticity of the Beatles belt.

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Vera put it away in a jar, in 1964!

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The rare mark should convince the bidders of the quality

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of the Prattware plate.

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Michael's mother's powder bowl wasn't all he thought it was.

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It was made too recently to have belonged to Napoleon's Josephine.

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But it's the age of the slides that should attract interest

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in this magic lantern.

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Here we are at Baffins Hall - a lovely old converted chapel,

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in the historic town of Chichester - for our auction.

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It's home of Henry Adams Auctioneers. Let's go and see today's auctioneer, Leslie Weller,

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and see what he's got to say about some of our owners' items,

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and our expects' valuations.

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This is interesting. I've never seen one before,

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so I had to get expert advice, so to speak, to put a valuation on it!

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We all concluded £30, maybe, but I've stuck my neck out,

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and said £50, with a bit of discretion, and hopefully get £70.

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It belongs to Michael. It's a powder flask.

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And it's feminine, and quite beautiful. I do like it.

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It's certainly very interesting.

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I've not come across this before,

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but it's interesting because, first of all, the fleur-de-lis scattered all over it,

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and quite an interesting coat of arms on the top.

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I think it will sell. Um, it's...

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I would have thought very late 19th century.

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But it's the powder blue, it's the whole look, the shape,

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everything about it just says quality.

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You're so right.

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That's what collecting's all about -

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recognising something because of the quality.

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It's its beauty. And that's not a lot of money.

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If someone can spend £50 to £70 on that, I think they've done well.

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-We've done well too!

-I agree.

-Michael will be pleased.

-Good.

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Vera, we're just two lots away from flogging, hopefully, your Beatles belt.

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£30-40. The pressure's on, isn't it? The pressure's on!

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Will we do it? We need pop pickers in the audience.

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We need old Beatles fans. Are you an old Beatles fan?

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-I am. I love the Beatles.

-I was the Rolling Stones myself.

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Good luck. Where did you get the tan? Have you been on holiday?

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On holiday and in the garden.

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-Where did you go on holiday?

-Tenerife.

-Lovely.

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-Do you go there every year?

-No.

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-First time then?

-No, second. Really enjoyed it.

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It's going under the hammer now.

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Lot 236, the black leather belt with a picture of the Beatles

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in the buckle, and I'm bid £10 for the commission bid.

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10. 12. 15. 18.

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20. 22. 25.

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28. 30.

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At £30. I'll take 2 again. At £30.

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At £30. Selling at 30.

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-Brilliant. I'm ever so pleased.

-So am I.

-You get slightly worried,

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-because we're in a fine art and antique sale...

-That's right.

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..and this is pop memorabilia.

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-But we did it. Just proves you can put things in most sales.

-Yes.

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-Happy with that?

-Yes, thank you.

-That'll buy a few drinks.

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-No, it's for my grandson.

-Really?

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-What are you going to buy him? Or just put it in his piggy bank?

-Yes.

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-What's his name?

-Lewis.

-Lewis, there you go. 30 quid.

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THEY LAUGH

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Next up, Robert's Prattware plate is about to go under the hammer.

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We're looking at £60-100, somewhere around there.

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Let's hope we can get over that! Why are you flogging this?

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This has been in the family a long time - part of your heritage.

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It doesn't fit into what we've got at home and it's just been sitting in the attic in newspaper.

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At least it's been protected,

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-so it's not been damaged.

-It hasn't.

-Condition, condition, condition.

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-That's what we always say on Flog It.

-Absolutely.

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-It's got everything about it.

-It's really nice.

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Now we come to lot 169,

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the mid 19th century Prattware plate,

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-and lots of interest here. I shall start at £50.

-Good.

-55.

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60. 65. 70. 75.

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80. 85. 90. 100.

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110. 120. At £120.

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I'll take 30, quickly. Selling at 120.

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Well, we did it. We got 120, just over the top end of the estimate.

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-What are you going to put that towards, less the bidder commission?

-My daughter's saving up for a car...

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-Is she?

-So that'll help her a bit.

-Her first car?

-Yeah.

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What a lovely dad!

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-Good result.

-Fantastic. That's good.

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My turn to be the expert, with Michael's powder bowl.

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I said £50-70. Had a chat with the auctioneer earlier.

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You know this. Michael doesn't. But Leslie there said he likes it.

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It's got class, it's got quality.

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He's not seen many before.

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-He agrees with the value.

-Oh, right.

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That's good, isn't it? Have you brought the magnifying glass?

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-He goes everywhere with it.

-My Sherlock Holmes.

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-I've got my eye on you.

-Have you got your eye on anything here?

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I'd love to, but I'm not going to. I've got enough br... objets d'art.

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-You nearly said bric-a-brac.

-Nearly! I nearly did.

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And now we come to an unusual lot,

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the circular bowl and cover, and you'll start me where?

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£30. 30 to start with? 20.

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20 I'm bid. £20.

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And 2. 25.

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28. 30. £30.

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-At 30. I'll take 2 again.

-It's struggling.

-It is, isn't it?

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32. 35.

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-Come on, bidders.

-I'll take 8.

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£35. Have you made up your minds? I'll take 8 anywhere, quickly.

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-Didn't sell.

-No. Well...

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I'm so surprised.

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I'm really surprised.

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I don't particularly want to take it back, but I can put it into another auction.

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I think the best thing to do then is to leave it with the auction house and re-enter it into another sale.

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Hopefully we'll work up some magic with this magic lantern and slides.

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We've got a valuation of £100-200.

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I've just been joined by Robert and his wife Annie, who couldn't make the valuation day.

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I understand that the magic lantern's been stored in the bedroom and you want to get rid of it.

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-Happy with the valuation?

-Yes.

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Let's hope we get that top end.

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Let's put some pressure on our expert. We've seen them do well.

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It isn't a particularly good lantern but the slides are interesting

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-and we have three lovely moveable ones.

-We're going to find out now

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because they are going under the hammer. This is it.

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The magic lantern with a collection of boxed and other slides.

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I'm bid £80 to start.

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85. 90. 100.

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110. 120. 140. 160. 180.

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200. The bidding's on the gallery at 200.

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At £200, or I'll take 20 quickly. I'm selling at 200.

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-Nice round figure.

-That was good.

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Who decided to flog it then?

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I did. It had been in my family for 60 years

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-and I think it's time they went to somebody who could show them as a slideshow.

-And enjoy them.

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Just got fed up looking at them. What will you put the £200 towards?

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I'm sure my grandson will benefit!

0:21:050:21:08

Thank you so much for coming in.

0:21:080:21:10

-Now...I want you to do something for me.

-I'm here to be used.

-Good.

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I want you to spend the next 24 hours in an intensive study

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-of Chinese pottery.

-Chinese pottery?

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Yes, Watson. British Museum, London Library, plenty of the night oil.

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-Now come along.

-I...I...

-There's not a moment to lose. Hurry!

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To the British Museum.

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I've come, not to the British Museum, but to Portsmouth Museum

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to do a bit of my own detective work concerning Sir Arthur Conan Doyle,

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creator of perhaps the world's greatest private investigator.

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The character Sherlock Holmes was conceived here in Portsmouth

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and this inspired one of the world's leading authorities and leading collectors, Richard Lancelyn Green,

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to leave his entire collection of Arthur Conan Doyle memorabilia

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to Portsmouth City Council.

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And there are well over 40,000 different items in his collection.

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And he left them on his death in the year 2004.

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This is just one

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of the 500 boxes it took to bring the entire collection here.

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You can imagine 500 of these stacked up on top of each other

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and they weigh an absolute ton.

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There's been plenty of unpacking so far and there's more to do, and more cataloguing to do.

0:22:350:22:40

I'm going to talk to the collection director, Dr Neil McCaw,

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to find out exactly what they've found so far.

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Portsmouth City Council must have been so delighted

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-when this collection came here. Do you think Arthur Conan Doyle would have approved?

-I think he would.

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Portsmouth was the place where he wrote the first two Sherlock Holmes novels.

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This is a first edition of the very first Sherlock Holmes novel,

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-so it's the birthplace of Sherlock Holmes.

-Yes.

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What brought him to Portsmouth? He trained as a doctor in Edinburgh.

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He did. Then he moved to Plymouth and tried his luck there with a friend of his, but they fell out

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and Conan Doyle decided that he'd go it alone as a GP,

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so he took a coastal steamer to Portsmouth, with a little money and nowhere to live, and had a go.

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And made a jolly good go of it. I gather he was a bit of a sportsman.

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Yeah, he was gifted in a number of sports. We've got some boxing gloves.

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He was a very gifted heavyweight fighter. He was also a cricketer.

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Here's a picture of him when he was playing against WG Grace...

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-That is WG Grace.

-It is, who he famously bowled out at one point.

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-Did he?

-He did.

-I see you've got some skiing pictures here.

0:23:530:23:57

One of the things Conan Doyle is also famous for is he introduced

0:23:570:24:01

skiing into Switzerland as a pastime, as a sporting activity.

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Obviously people in Switzerland were aware of skiing before he was there,

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but he, with a couple of friends, introduced the idea that skiing could be a leisure activity.

0:24:080:24:13

And there he is there, look.

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-Wrestling with a ski.

-Yeah!

0:24:160:24:18

PAUL LAUGHS

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Like many celebrated people, Conan Doyle felt he was famous for the wrong thing.

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The Sherlock Holmes stories were something he knocked out when he had to pay the bills.

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He considered his important books were his historical novels

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and his science fiction, like The Lost World.

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That's why he killed Sherlock Holmes off to start with in the late 19th century,

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cos he was just of fed up with him.

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But then the pressure of publishers offering him a huge amount of money,

0:24:450:24:48

he brought him back to life.

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Now, is it true,

0:24:520:24:54

was he into spiritualism?

0:24:540:24:56

Yeah, he was. He first went to a spiritualist church when he lived in Portsmouth

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but it wasn't until after the Great War, when he lost a brother and he lost a son,

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-that he became really interested in contacting...

-The other side.

-Yeah.

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And this continued for the rest of his life

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and he became the leading advocate for spiritualism in the world

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and even after his death, they held a seance at the Albert Hall

0:25:150:25:18

with the hope of bringing Sir Arthur back. His family were there

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and 6,000 other people turned up and they left a chair empty on the stage

0:25:220:25:26

-with the hope that Arthur would turn up at the end of the evening.

-Did he?

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He wasn't available. HE CHUCKLES

0:25:300:25:32

Neil, do you have a favourite item in the collection?

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There are a number... I suppose my very favourite is this here.

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This is a letter from President Franklin D Roosevelt

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accepting membership to the American Sherlock Holmes Society.

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One of the most interesting things about that is that it's dated 1942,

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so right in the middle of the war when you would have thought

0:25:500:25:52

-Roosevelt would have been interested in other things...

-Yeah.

-..he's most interested in Sherlock Holmes.

0:25:520:25:57

He says at the bottom,

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"I've had to give up cruising on the Potomac. I sometimes go off the record on Sundays

0:25:590:26:03

"to an undisclosed retreat.

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"The group of cabins that shelter the Secret Service men is known as Baker Street."

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Oh, brilliant. How about that.

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The scope of the collection is absolutely huge. It's monumental.

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What sort of value would you put on it?

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Well it's very difficult to put a monetary value on it.

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The individual items are very valuable.

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This first edition is probably as valuable as a small house.

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But the real value of the collection is that it's kept together,

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that it isn't hived off individually,

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-that in its entirety, it's at its most valuable.

-Yeah. Another great thing is that it's here,

0:26:340:26:39

so future generations can appreciate it and come and look at it and marvel over it.

0:26:390:26:43

Neil, thank you very much. It's been a pleasure.

0:26:430:26:45

Back at the valuation day, our very own sleuths have found plenty to investigate.

0:26:530:26:58

Whenever we're talking about Art Deco and glass

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the combination of Art Deco and glass means one name - Lalique.

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And that's what we have here.

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We see lots of Lalique on "Flog It!"

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We all know the history - he used to be a jeweller, worked in France.

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He started to make glass in the 1920s and this is a piece that you see regularly

0:27:160:27:22

in the auction rooms.

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Tell me, is this a family piece?

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-Is it something you've had a long time?

-Yes, it's my mother's. She's had it in her cupboard for ages,

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for as long as I can remember. Yes.

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At the end of the day, it's a piece of moulded glass.

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But it's the design that's so fantastic about it.

0:27:370:27:40

-It's very clever.

-Incredibly clever with these four big over-sized scallop shells.

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This opaque glass. Lovely colour.

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And here we have a pattern called "coquille".

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A pattern that was made in the 1930s,

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and probably the most common of all the Lalique patterns.

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It's also signed,

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"R Lalique". Lalique died in 1945.

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After he died, it was marked "R. Lalique" and R in a circle.

0:28:050:28:09

So this is in his heyday, height of popularity.

0:28:090:28:12

What do you think it's worth?

0:28:120:28:14

-Um, I don't know. No idea at all.

-No?

-No.

0:28:170:28:20

If we put £180-250 on it, would that be OK for you?

0:28:200:28:25

-That would be lovely.

-Yeah?

-That would be lovely. Thank you.

0:28:250:28:29

I like to see a smiling face after an evaluation.

0:28:290:28:32

Jolly good.

0:28:320:28:34

Why are you selling it?

0:28:340:28:36

Um, my mother is having a little clear-out.

0:28:360:28:39

Um, she's getting on and she wants to have a holiday,

0:28:390:28:43

she wants us all to have a holiday in Wales.

0:28:430:28:46

-OK.

-And, you know, a big family holiday like we used to years ago, when we were younger.

0:28:460:28:50

Well it's a good bowl and, really, if we can't sell a bit of Lalique

0:28:500:28:54

then we can't sell anything. So fingers crossed on the day and I'm sure it'll do well.

0:28:540:28:59

-Let's take it along and see what happens.

-Right. Thank you.

-See you there.

-Thank you very much.

0:28:590:29:04

Angie, a Double Diamond works wonders!

0:29:130:29:16

Is this going to work wonders for us?

0:29:160:29:19

I hope so.

0:29:190:29:20

THEY LAUGH

0:29:200:29:22

Now, one of the things I like about Beswick is that the designers

0:29:220:29:27

-had a sense of humour.

-Mm-hm.

0:29:270:29:30

And that's what this wee chap is all about.

0:29:300:29:33

Tell me, where did you get him?

0:29:330:29:35

Um, well he was in my husband's grandmother's cottage

0:29:350:29:40

and unfortunately she passed away and he inherited it.

0:29:400:29:46

So where has it been? Has it been on display?

0:29:460:29:48

Only in a glass cabinet for years.

0:29:480:29:51

-So it's never been used?

-No. Not at all.

0:29:510:29:54

Have you ever tasted Double Diamond?

0:29:540:29:56

-No.

-Are you a gin and tonic woman?

0:29:560:29:59

-No. Maybe vodka and coke.

-All right.

0:29:590:30:03

Well, as I said before, he is Beswick.

0:30:040:30:08

Now, he's not an early Beswick, but he is characteristic in that he is a lot of fun.

0:30:080:30:14

I would say 1950s, 1960s - that sort of period.

0:30:160:30:21

And he's certainly very charming, also functional - he's a water jug -

0:30:210:30:25

and Beswick is very popular at the moment. It's one of the things which is hot.

0:30:250:30:31

This we would put under the title of an advertising item,

0:30:310:30:35

and there are people who collect that type of thing.

0:30:350:30:39

Why do you want to sell him? He's a family piece, is he not?

0:30:390:30:42

Well no, not really, because we've got so many pieces...

0:30:420:30:46

-You've got so much junk?

-Yeah, to get rid of, actually.

0:30:460:30:50

ANITA LAUGHS

0:30:500:30:51

But he's just sat in the cabinet doing nothing and I've got some of my mother's stuff to replace him anyway

0:30:510:30:59

to go in the cabinet.

0:30:590:31:01

Now, Angie, he's not rare,

0:31:010:31:04

but he's a good factory, he is collectible.

0:31:040:31:07

I would like to put the value at between £60 and £80.

0:31:070:31:13

Would you be happy to sell him at that?

0:31:130:31:15

Yes, it would be marvellous.

0:31:150:31:16

I think we'll put him in the auction, we'll put a reserve on say, 55 on him

0:31:160:31:23

just to protect him.

0:31:230:31:24

-That's lovely.

-OK?

-Yes.

-So thank you very much for bringing him in.

0:31:240:31:28

He's a lovely wee chappy.

0:31:280:31:29

Jeanette, when I came down to Portsmouth

0:31:370:31:40

I was hoping to find something nautical, something of naval interest

0:31:400:31:46

and I'm not sure about this.

0:31:460:31:48

Let's take the lid off and have a look.

0:31:480:31:51

What can you tell me about that?

0:31:510:31:53

Many years ago, I did gardening for a very old gentleman

0:31:530:31:58

and just before he died, he gave me that.

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Which I've really loved, but now I've moved into a granny annexe with my daughter and her family,

0:32:010:32:08

um, I don't have it on show or anything, and I feel it should be of interest to someone,

0:32:080:32:15

so here I am.

0:32:150:32:16

-I think it's lovely.

-Do you?

0:32:160:32:18

It's one of these things that from the outside

0:32:180:32:21

-it just looks like a tatty little circular box...

-Mm-hm.

0:32:210:32:24

..that could have nothing or something inside.

0:32:240:32:29

And you take the lid off and there we have this watch glass in the top.

0:32:290:32:33

If you hold it, it has this convex...

0:32:330:32:37

-glass on the top.

-I've never noticed that before.

0:32:370:32:40

Just a little detail.

0:32:400:32:41

Much, much, much better than having just a flat glass.

0:32:410:32:44

And then offset to the centre is this pivoting compass.

0:32:440:32:49

But it's not a compass in the true sense.

0:32:490:32:51

It has "evening", "morning"...

0:32:510:32:55

"night" and "noon".

0:32:550:32:58

And it has this little indicator arm in the same way

0:32:580:33:03

-as you would have an indicator arm on a sundial.

-Right.

0:33:030:33:06

And look at all these little places around the outside.

0:33:060:33:09

Fascinating.

0:33:090:33:10

This is an enamel dial on the side

0:33:100:33:13

and that's enamelled as well.

0:33:130:33:15

What an interesting thing!

0:33:150:33:17

I found it fascinating. When he actually gave it to me

0:33:170:33:21

he had several things on like a little dresser thing,

0:33:210:33:24

and he said to pick any one I'd like.

0:33:240:33:27

And I thought that was, although didn't really know what it was,

0:33:270:33:30

-I thought it was quite fascinating.

-It is.

0:33:300:33:33

It's really, really interesting.

0:33:330:33:34

And the more you look at it, the more interesting it becomes.

0:33:340:33:38

And inside the cover there's a paper label.

0:33:380:33:40

It says twelve months of the year with its times...

0:33:420:33:46

"Slow and fast" it says to each one.

0:33:480:33:50

-I suppose date-wise it's gonna be...around 1800.

-Is it?

0:33:500:33:56

This is George III, made in box wood.

0:33:560:33:58

The outside's in box wood. It's lovely!

0:33:580:34:01

Has a real feel to it, too.

0:34:010:34:03

Estimate - just as an object, that is gonna be worth £70-£100.

0:34:030:34:08

-Mm-hm.

-Is that all right for you?

0:34:080:34:10

Oh, absolutely.

0:34:100:34:12

-I'd pay £70 for that.

-Mm.

0:34:120:34:13

-I think a lot of other people would.

-I'm sure you're right.

0:34:130:34:17

It's a really interesting object.

0:34:170:34:18

70-100, but I might come up with something totally different on the sale day.

0:34:180:34:22

And before that, I'll do some research

0:34:220:34:25

and I'll contact the sale room and we'll discuss it

0:34:250:34:27

and see if we can do some more work on it.

0:34:270:34:30

And we might have a change of estimate before the sale.

0:34:300:34:33

-It's a shame just to be at home in a drawer, isn't it?

-It is.

0:34:330:34:36

-It's so interesting.

-Lovely.

0:34:360:34:38

-Thanks for bringing it in.

-Thank you, James, very much.

0:34:380:34:41

And now for a quick recap.

0:34:430:34:46

Sue's classic bit of Art Deco design, the Lalique bowl,

0:34:460:34:50

should do really well.

0:34:500:34:52

Anita's hoping the Beswick Double Diamond water jug

0:34:520:34:55

will work wonders for Angela.

0:34:550:34:57

Further research into the mysterious dial

0:34:570:34:59

has convinced James to put a higher valuation of £200-£250 on it.

0:34:590:35:05

But will Leslie, our auctioneer agree?

0:35:080:35:11

Leslie, this has to be one of my favourite lots of the whole sale.

0:35:140:35:17

You know I love treen. And you love treen as well.

0:35:170:35:20

It belongs to Jeanette.

0:35:200:35:21

She was given this by a man who she used to garden for.

0:35:210:35:24

I don't know exactly what it is. You have to help me pronounce it.

0:35:240:35:27

-I believe it's called an equinoptical.

-Yes.

0:35:270:35:31

An equinoctial dial.

0:35:310:35:32

Um, basically, it's a compass

0:35:320:35:36

and around the edge you've got the names of all the major cities

0:35:360:35:40

in the world.

0:35:400:35:42

Having got the compass you can then tell exactly what the time is

0:35:420:35:45

in each of those.

0:35:450:35:47

-It's great for somebody that wants to do a lot of travelling.

-Exactly.

0:35:470:35:51

And a pocket one, too.

0:35:510:35:53

It's absolutely brilliant. I adore it.

0:35:530:35:56

What sort of money is this gonna do?

0:35:560:35:59

Will it eclipse that 250 top end?

0:35:590:36:02

-I've never seen one before.

-I've seen ONE before.

0:36:020:36:05

They're not very common.

0:36:050:36:06

I know they've got one at Greenwich for instance.

0:36:060:36:10

Let's hope the collectors in this sort of thing

0:36:100:36:13

will actually see it either on the internet or through a catalogue,

0:36:130:36:17

-or through the grapevine...

-I'm sure it's been advertised.

-It has.

0:36:170:36:21

All points of the compass, north, south, east, west.

0:36:210:36:24

Well done! Yes!

0:36:240:36:27

No, it's a good item.

0:36:270:36:29

And I hope that it will make the top estimate.

0:36:290:36:32

It's difficult to say, because there are no records of them being sold

0:36:320:36:37

-in the last few years.

-Could this be a little sleeper?

0:36:370:36:40

I think it could be.

0:36:400:36:41

Sue, I'm hoping Lalique collectors are here today.

0:36:480:36:51

We love this glass. We've seen it on the show many a time,

0:36:510:36:54

and it's always sold, so there should be no excuses today.

0:36:540:36:57

£180, £220, £250, somewhere around there.

0:36:570:37:01

Yeah, should be about there. Makes the same every single time.

0:37:010:37:04

-Fingers crossed!

-Why are you flogging the Lalique?

0:37:040:37:07

It's my mother's and she's having a massive clear-out.

0:37:070:37:11

Downsizing.

0:37:110:37:12

So, we thought we'd try and see what we could do.

0:37:120:37:15

Start with the Lalique. You're starting with the best.

0:37:150:37:18

Good luck, Sue. This is it, it's going under the hammer.

0:37:180:37:21

A Lalique opalescent circular glass bowl

0:37:210:37:26

and £100 to start me.

0:37:260:37:28

80 I'm bid.

0:37:280:37:30

85, 90.

0:37:300:37:32

95, 100, 110? 120?

0:37:320:37:37

At 120. I'll take 30 for the next bid.

0:37:370:37:39

130, 140.

0:37:390:37:42

-At £140.

-Ooh!

-I'll take 50 for the next bid.

0:37:420:37:46

At £140. Bidding there at 140.

0:37:460:37:49

-Not sold.

-Didn't sell.

0:37:490:37:52

That is the first piece of Lalique I have ever valued that hasn't sold.

0:37:520:37:56

-Oh!

-In 15 years!

0:37:560:37:59

That is incredible.

0:37:590:38:00

-Did we have a fixed reserve of 150?

-150, yeah. But it's worth that!

0:38:000:38:04

-Yeah.

-There's no question of that.

0:38:040:38:06

-Gosh!

-Bidders weren't here. That's all.

0:38:070:38:11

It was the only piece of 20th century glass here.

0:38:110:38:14

There was no other Art glass at all.

0:38:140:38:16

No other Art Deco at all, so...

0:38:160:38:19

-Try it in a specialist sale, I think.

-We tried.

0:38:190:38:22

Look after it. Take it home and put it in another sale

0:38:220:38:25

in a few months' time.

0:38:250:38:27

-If you put it in a sale locally...

-We've got a few other items,

0:38:270:38:30

-perhaps we can do that all together.

-Don't re-enter it straight away.

0:38:300:38:34

Because people might think it's doing the rounds.

0:38:340:38:36

All right. We'll do that. Thank you very much.

0:38:360:38:39

Just been joined by Angie and our lovely expert in the nick of time.

0:38:430:38:46

We've got that Double Diamond water jug going under the hammer.

0:38:460:38:50

-Ever drunk the stuff?

-No.

0:38:500:38:51

We need £60-£80, so good luck with this.

0:38:510:38:55

It's going under the hammer right now.

0:38:550:38:58

The Beswickware Double Diamond water jug.

0:38:580:39:03

What more could you want?

0:39:030:39:05

Cheers all round, if this one goes.

0:39:050:39:08

£30 then. 30 I'm bid. And 5.

0:39:080:39:10

40, 45. 50, 55.

0:39:100:39:14

Lady's bid at 55.

0:39:140:39:15

I'll take 60 for the next bid. 60.

0:39:150:39:18

Thank you, 60. 65? 65.

0:39:180:39:19

At 65. The lady's bid again.

0:39:190:39:22

At £65. At 65, and selling at 65.

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Fantastic! The hammer's gone down. Well done, Anita.

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Bang on mid-estimate. £65, were you surprised at that?

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-Yes, I was.

-Brewing memorabilia is very collectable, isn't it?

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What are you gonna put that money towards?

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It doesn't actually belong to me, it's my husband's jug.

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He inherited it, so he might take me out for a drink or something on it...

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A little bit of supper maybe!

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To treat you, you've done all the hard work.

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That's fine.

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Angie, thanks very much for coming in.

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This next lot is a real gem

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and I'm so pleased for Jeanette for bringing it in.

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I've learnt something - an equinoctial dial

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or equinocial dial. I think you drop the C in it.

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-Do you? I don't know.

-You drop out a C.

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Equinotial, equinotial, something like that.

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Who knows? I don't. Write in and tell me, please.

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It's an absolute little gem.

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-Hopefully we're gonna get that £280 mark.

-It's lovely.

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It's good treen with a scientific instrument.

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I had a chat with the auctioneer earlier.

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We all agree with your valuation,

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but we do feel, if two people really get carried away on this,

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collectors of scientific instruments or treen objects,

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it really is a lovely man's toy. It's a desktop toy, isn't it?

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It could do the £400-£500 mark.

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On the valuation day, I think I put £70-£100 on it to start with,

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and the more you looked at it, the more you feel it -

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the wonderful colour, as you say it's got the rub.

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The rub, the touch.

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And you can tell the time all around the world from wherever you are!

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-As long as the sun's shining.

-Magnificent!

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-It's just a fantastic object.

-It's a real gem.

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Thank you so much for bringing it in. I'd never seen one before.

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Nor me. I'd never seen one.

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-And this is the beauty of "Flog It!" You learn so much.

-You must do.

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Right now, we're gonna learn exactly what it's worth,

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right now, right here in Chichester.

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Good luck. It's going under the hammer.

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This small rare 19th century travelling equinoctial dial -

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there we are, showing to you on the left there -

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and you'll start me at £80.

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80, I'm bid. 80 and 5?

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£90. 95?

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100, 110, 120.

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130, 140, 150.

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160, 170, 180.

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190, 200. 200. £200?

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210, 220.

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250, thank you. 250.

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260, 270, 280.

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290. 290 I'm bid. 300. 310?

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-320 with me.

-They want it!

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330, 340, 350 with me again.

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360? 360.

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At 360, the gentleman's bid then.

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At 360? 370, thank you.

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370. £370.

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Selling at 370.

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Yes! 370.

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-That is brilliant!

-It is!

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-That is almost double your estimate.

-That's brilliant.

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Ever so pleased for you. Ever so pleased for you.

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All right, isn't it?

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What will you put that money towards?

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Because we've had our garden reorganised,

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we want to buy a stone dog, a garden ornament.

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-Not a real one?

-No, not a real one.

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-They like gardens!

-I know.

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-Like a big stone one! A tall statue.

-A massive one.

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Hopefully that'll go part of the way in getting that,

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-or most of it, you never know.

-It'll go part way to getting it.

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-So, delighted!

-Every time you look at that,

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you can think of that little scientific instrument.

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As you can see, the auction has literally just finished,

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and what a cracking day we've had.

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Some mixed results, but I've gotta say,

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the smile on Jeanette's face was absolutely out of this world,

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with that treen dial - see, I've got away without saying its proper name,

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selling for a staggering £370.

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That made the news, reaching the four points of the compass.

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