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Hundreds of these structures that you can see behind me

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once dominated the landscape around here.

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They're bottle kilns and they were used to make some of the world's finest ceramics.

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Today, Flog It comes from Stoke-on-Trent.

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The modern Stoke-on-Trent is made up of six towns,

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which were brought together in 1910 to form a city,

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and collectively they're known the world over as the...

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ALL: Potteries!

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Now, are we gonna find some ceramic gems here today?

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Well, we're in the right place, but it is the right time?

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That is down to our two experts, Mr David Barby and James Lewis.

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-Well, no pressure, guys!

-Smile, you're on Candid Camera.

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And that's not the only camera here today!

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Well, I think it's time to get this massive crowd inside

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and see what they've brought along.

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And James has already turned up two cheeky-looking chaps.

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Keith, these are fantastic.

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I love them.

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I saw you unpacking them a while ago and I have to say,

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as soon as I saw them, I loved them.

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They're brilliant fun,

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and what we're looking at, of course, are table lighters... A pair of them.

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This one, the hinge is fine.

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This one, a little bit of damage on the hinge,

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but still a really interesting pair of lighters,

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and to have a pair as well

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makes them a little bit more sought-after, I would imagine.

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They're made from spelter and then they've been silvered

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on the top of the spelter, but they're great fun. I suppose...

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What do you think they're supposed to represent?

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Is it "Alas, poor Yorick"?

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Do you know, I think it's probably got to be allegorical of evolution,

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and what we have is a pair of apes sitting on textbooks...

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-So, knowledge.

-That makes sense, yes.

-..looking at a human skull

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and thinking, "Goodness me, surely I can't be related to that!"

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And I think it's a comment and a bit of a joke

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on the times because it's only...

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These were made probably in the 1920s, '30s,

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and we're not that far after Darwin,

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and it was still quite a controversial subject then,

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so I think this monkey is looking at a human and thinking,

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"Oh, no, please don't tell me I'm related to one of those!"

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But they're great fun, aren't they?

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-I think so.

-And the key word is "novelty".

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Whenever we've got something that's useful, something that's decorative

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and the novelty all combined, that's what people are looking for.

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-A bit of a problem, they've been damaged at some point.

-One has, yeah.

-How did that happen?

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My son used them as bookends in his bedroom for his school books

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and the shelf collapsed!

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-OK.

-Zoop, straight to the floor.

-We've lost an arm.

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I repaired the arm. I was going to repair the hinge...

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-They've been out in my workshop for three years.

-Really?

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I do it out there. They've been left out there because the wife didn't want them in the house.

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It was taboo. I gave up many, many years ago.

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I have to say, I think they're great, I really like them.

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-Oh, good.

-And I think they're great fun as well.

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What are they worth?

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I mean, this one being damaged, I suppose, is just a few pounds.

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That one has got to be worth £80 to £100, I should think.

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-So if we put an estimate of £80 to £120 on the two?

-They'll have a reserve.

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-Do you want a reserve?

-Please.

-What would you like?

-Up to you.

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-80?

-Lovely.

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-You'll take them at that?

-So they don't give them away!

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Absolutely, no, I agree. It's Adam Partridge who will be selling them.

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He knows what he's doing.

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Well, I think a collector would really go for them, wouldn't they?

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I love them, I do, I really love them, but as I say...

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It kind of looks like Adam Partridge, doesn't it?

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-Oh, ooh! Don't tell him that!

-Well, that will be me, then!

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MUSIC: "Neighborhood #3 (Power Out)" by Arcade Fire

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Betty, obviously you can't remember the abdication of Edward VIII...

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-No.

-Where did this come from?

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Has it always been in the family?

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Yeah. It's been in the family for as long as I can remember.

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Was there a great sort of devotion to King Edward?

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-I don't think so!

-Don't think so?

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But somebody acquired rather an expensive example

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of souvenir-ware for the coronation, because this was made by Fieldings -

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that's the Crown Devon Company -

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who have been producing pottery from about 1897 in Stoke-on-Trent,

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and they've always been known for making good-quality pottery,

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often sort of copying more expensive designs from the Worcester factory,

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and then they started producing these novelty musical movement

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tankards, commemorative ones.

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I remember buying...

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many years ago a tankard for a friend of mine who used to sing "Sally".

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-Gracie Fields.

-Showing your age!

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Thank you!

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But this is in the same tradition

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of giving a little bit of interest,

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a little bit of excitement, so when you lifted the mug,

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to drink, it would play a musical tune,

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and here we have "God Save The King".

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What I find interesting about this

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is that it has on the back the legend,

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"Abdicated December 10th 1936".

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Now, that was an interesting move for the pottery company, wasn't it?

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First of all they produced this for the coronation, which didn't take

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place, and then, to make certain their sales still went on for these

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implements, they put an abdication clause on the back,

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so they had one for the coronation and then they sold this as a souvenir

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of the abdication, so they covered both sides, didn't they?

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I like this. The musical movement is contained halfway down,

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and the actual decoration and the cameo portrait, in high relief,

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is in such excellent condition.

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The handle is decorated with all the symbols of Great Britain.

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We have the rose for England,

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thistle for Scotland, daffodil for Wales,

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and there, the shamrock for Ireland.

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It's interesting that people do collect commemorative mugs,

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particularly with the musical movement underneath, and I think

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if this goes up for auction we should look at around about £60 to £80,

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and I think we should put a reserve of £50 on it.

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-Would that be agreeable?

-Yeah, cool.

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-I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

-Good!

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Shall we just have a little bit of a play before you say goodbye to it?

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MUG PLAYS "God Save The King"

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Phil, looking at all these used ticket stubs,

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you're obviously a big music fan and so am I.

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Look, Dr Feelgood, Joe Walsh...

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Gosh, everybody's in here, but what has caught my eye

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are these two little posters, they're like flyers really.

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I guess these would have been used

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in shop windows, local stores

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around the venue to promote the gig.

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Jimi Hendrix, and it says it all because that sums up

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the Seventies with that sort of purple haze.

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-Psychedelia.

-Yeah, exactly.

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-There's no date on it. Do you know what date it was?

-I think it's 1970.

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And he was playing in Oklahoma.

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You've got an American accent,

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-I guess you grew up in Oklahoma.

-That's where I'm from, yeah!

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-So what brought you over to the UK then?

-My wife.

-Your wife?

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-You married an English lass?

-Yeah.

-Aaah!

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Did you get to see Led Zeppelin?

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No, I didn't. I was a bit young at the time.

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I was gonna say, you look a bit young.

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I love that. That is fantastic,

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and Led Zeppelin has reformed this year.

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I grew up playing the drums and I still listen to John Bonham

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and try and copy all his sort of licks and his moves and his sound.

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-The question is, were you any good?

-No, I was rubbish!

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Again, no date.

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I think that's also 1970.

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Right. Great band, but I don't think our auction is the right one for you.

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It's a general antique auction. I think what you've got here, rock

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and pop memorabilia, needs to go to a specialist musical memorabilia

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sale, where you'll find a bigger audience, and I'm pretty sure

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this one is worth around £80 to £150, and so is that one.

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So that's not bad, is it?

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For flyers that were just sellotaped to the shop window, and what I like

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is the fact that you've looked after them,

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you've put them behind perspex on a clip frame,

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so it's kept them from being bent and screwed up and ripped and torn,

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so good for you, because condition is so important.

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MUSIC: "Haiti" by Arcade Fire

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Pat, I love this period of art.

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We're looking at the end of the sort of 19th century, and a period that

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we call the "aesthetic movement",

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and I associate this with the pre-Raphaelites.

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I look at these and I think in terms of slightly, dare I say,

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camp Victorian melodramas or Wagnerian operas,

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because all the costumes are of that sort of twilight era,

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rather like Excalibur,

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-and, of course, the subject matter is Arthurian, is it not?

-Yes.

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-What fascinated you to collect these?

-I didn't collect them,

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they were my grandmother's.

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-They were passed down to me.

-She was a collector?

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Well, she bought them from a second-hand shop and they were

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originally in a wash stand. She must have bought them in the early 1900s.

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It would have been a very, very expensive bedroom suite

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to have had a wash stand with these Minton tiles installed in the back.

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These were all decorated

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by one of the leading artists at the Minton factory called Moir Smith,

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and each tile would either have its initials or his full name there.

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There's Moir Smith there.

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So they are recognised, they're sought after, and hopefully

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there's going to be tile collectors up at the auction we're going to.

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I'm separating these from the subject matter at the back,

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because you can understand why.

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These are all Arthurian,

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and the colour tones are in this sort of beige and dark brown.

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-Sepia colours, aren't they?

-Sepia-tone colours, yes,

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and they're very much in vogue now for collectors.

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There are tile collectors.

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These are different, these are Shakespearean subjects,

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so we have Macbeth and we have Romeo and Juliet - beautiful -

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and then we have these Walter Scott tiles at the back.

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These would not have come from a wash stand.

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These might have come from a piece of furniture, probably insert

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into the back of a chair or insert into a wardrobe or maybe a fireplace.

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-It's a lovely collection. Why are you selling them?

-We don't use them.

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We've always been intending to do something with it and never done it.

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Right. There was a fabulous sale in Stourbridge, a couple of weeks ago,

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where a lot of these came up for sale.

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On average, the estimates were around about

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£20 each for the Arthurian ones,

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and also the Shakespeare ones, and then a little bit more,

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probably around about £40 to £60, for the larger tiles, so I think we ought

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to put an estimate at between £200 and £300. Would that be agreeable?

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-That would be very agreeable.

-But they require

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a reserve just tucked under, so I would say we put the reserve at £180.

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Would that be agreeable?

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That would be very agreeable!

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-I hope we're gonna get it after all of that!

-Yes, I do, too!

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Well, how about that lot? You've seen some cracking items,

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but right now it's time to put our experts' theories to the test.

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It's time for our first visit to the auction rooms,

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so while we nip up the motorway to Marshall's,

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here's a quick recap of all the items that are going to go under the hammer.

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It's time for this pair of cheeky monkeys to come out of the garage

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and charm their way into a new home.

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Royal memorabilia always attracts the bidders. Betty's Edward VIII

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singing mug has it, with bells on.

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Every tile tells a story, and I'm sure it will be a happy ending

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for this fine collection of Minton.

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Our auction today is in Knutsford at Frank Marshall's.

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Now, on the rostrum we've got Flog It favourite Adam Partridge,

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hopefully doing us proud, but before the sale gets under way,

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I'm going to catch up with him and have a quick natter about one of our items.

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Now these are a bit of fun. Bookends, really, if you like.

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but they're table lighters, they belong to Keith.

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I think his son has damaged one of them and they've been using them as bookends.

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£80 to £120 was put on these by James.

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I like the contemplative look they have while they're

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looking at the skulls and I notice that the...

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"With compliments of S Murphy." So they're a gift, aren't they?

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It's a strange thing to have, isn't it?

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-Yeah. They've got the look, though.

-They're good fun.

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I mean, this one has had his arm off as well on the front there.

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-Oh, yes, yes.

-So condition isn't brilliant.

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80 to 120 should see them sold,

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but table lighters, you know, smoking is so popular these days...

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-Adam is not going ape about these!

-No, I'm not, no!

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Well, they're first up in the auction,

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so let's see what the bidders think!

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-Thank you very much.

-We've got £80 to £120 put on by our expert, James.

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I had a chat to Adam, just before the sale started.

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We kind of agreed, a bit of fun, the damage won't hold them back,

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and that's the right price. Why do you want to flog them, though?

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Well, we are emigrating to Australia.

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Oh, are you? That is a major, major decision.

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-How long have you been thinking about doing that?

-A year.

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-A year? Brave man!

-We've got the eldest children out there, established.

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So you're going to retire out there?

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That's true. They've been out there for years and they've got good jobs.

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What a great country to go to. Been there are few times myself.

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-I think they should just do a little bit more than 120.

-I hope so.

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It's just that hinge at the back.

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-It can be sorted out, though.

-Yeah, it can be.

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Let's find out what the bidders in Knutsford think.

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-It's going under the hammer now.

-Lot 99, a pair of cast-metal novelty

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table lighters in the form of an ape contemplating a skull. There we are.

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Rather nice, aren't they?

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Cheeky little monkeys there, lot 99, £80 the pair.

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£80. £50 then.

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-50 bid.

-We're in.

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60, 5, 70, 5, 80, 5, 90, 5, 100.

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95 at the back of the room, 95. Is there 100?

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-Good.

-110, 120, 120, 130, 140.

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-It's only money, sir!

-It's only money!

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130, any more now, 130 and we sell.

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All done at £130?

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Selling. The hammer's gone down, just above the top end

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-of the estimate. We did it, though. Good result.

-Very good.

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Bit of commission to pay on that,

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but it's something towards the trip, isn't it? Congratulations.

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-Thank you very much.

-Nice move.

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Right, now we've got 11 Minton tiles from the 19th century

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up for grabs, £200 to £300.

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They belong to Pat, and I think these will fly away.

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I would hope so, I'd hope so. Very good designer, again,

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Arts And Crafts very much in vogue.

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These have been wrapped up in the garden shed,

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-haven't they, for a long time?

-They have, probably 60 years.

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We've changed the newspaper now and again!

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We're gonna find out what they're worth, right now. This is it.

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423 is 11 Minton tiles, designed by John Moir Smith, lot 423.

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11 of these, £200 start me, please.

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100 then to get on.

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100 bid, 10 now, at £100, 110 are you?

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110, 120, 130, 140, 50, 160, 70, 180, in the room 180.

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-Any more now? Any further on these?

-Come on, come on...

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At 180, 11 of them at 180.

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Let's have a bit more, shall we? At 180. Are you all done at 180?

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180, and we sell.

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So, 180. Just got them away.

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-That was the reserve, so can't grumble.

-Can't grumble at that.

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-No, no.

-What are you gonna do with the money?

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We're going to use it for a holiday, towards a holiday, and we're also

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going to probably a buy a few things, little extras.

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-That sounds very nice.

-Yes, very peripatetic!

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MUSIC: "Red Alert" by Basement Jaxx

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Well, we heard it play God Save The King earlier.

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Let's hope Betty's little musical tankard reaches the top end

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of the estimate and gets that £80... PLUS in fact. That's what we want.

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It is a bit of fun, isn't it?

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It's a lovely little piece, yes. Of course, it's the association.

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It's King Edward, who abdicated, and how many of these were made?

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-How many survived?

-We don't know.

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And how many that survived are still playing?

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Here it is, it's coming under the hammer now.

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Crown Devon Edward VIII musical commemorative mug. There we are.

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How often do we see Edward VIII items brought to us as rarities?

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But this is a nice one, lot 353, and I can start with a bid of £50.

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-We're in.

-Take five. At £50. £50, 5, 60, 5, 70, 5, 80, 5, 90, 5, 100.

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-We're up there.

-110 here, 110, anymore?

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120, 130, 140, 150, 160.

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160, who's going on? 170...

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Fantastic! That's fantastic, Betty!

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200, 210.

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-I'm shaking!

-200 in the room. £200.

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All done at £200. Selling then.

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-Yes!

-A whopping £200, Betty!

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-That must be a record!

-Crikey!

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-Yeah, really good.

-Condition, condition, condition,

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that's what it's all about. Oh, well, a bit of commission to pay on

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that, but plenty of money to spend!

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-What are you gonna do with that?

-Phew!

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-You haven't got a clue, have you?

-New fence.

-You haven't thought about it. New fence.

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-A bit of gardening?

-Oh, well done!

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-That was good, wasn't it?

-Wow, wow, wow, wow, yes!

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Now, cast your mind back a few hundred years.

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The year is approximately 1610.

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James I is on the throne and Sir Walter Raleigh is in the Tower of London,

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but here, in Cheshire, work has just finished on the home of one William Moreton III.

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Little Moreton Hall is one of the finest examples of Elizabethan

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timber-framed manor houses in England.

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Work on the house started in the early 16th century

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and extended over future generations.

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It's a stunning display of medieval craftsmanship.

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It's a half-timber-framed house,

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built on a stone foundation, and each storey was built

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at different stages. The infill of the wood is plaster and lath.

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Now, originally this, in Elizabethan times,

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would have been a lovely golden ochre colour, quite vibrant.

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It was the Victorians that painted everything black and white.

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They even painted all the oak beams black! But look at it!

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It really is fantastic.

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The more wood, the more money you had.

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It was something to show off, and all of this is held together

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with wooden pegs, massive great big wooden pegs, driven into the mortice

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to hold it tight when the wood was still green, in its fresh

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state, because all this would have been felled from the local forest.

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Here is a typical example of the pegs, look,

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that hold the whole thing together.

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They're known as "trenails". Treenails.

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And when you get into the cobbled internal courtyard,

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you get greeted with a 360-degree

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panoramic view of architectural delight. Just look at it!

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You get wonderful ornamentation all around the doors and windows.

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It's so typical of a Cheshire build.

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I love the quatrefoils, with hand-carved balustrades.

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It's another detail that just catches your eye.

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Moving right up, you've got the leaded windows

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and these windows must have been so expensive in their day.

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It's another way of showing off extreme wealth,

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and that takes you up to the eaves, where you

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see these great big bulbous drop pendants, all hand-carved again.

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Wonderful!

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And here, look, the carpenter has even put his name,

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"Rycharde Dale, carpeder, made thies windovs by the grac of God,"

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and the date was 1559, and it's still standing!

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They really did know their trade.

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The house was acquired by the National Trust in 1938,

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and David Watts is the property manager.

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He's the chap we need to find to have a quick chat to

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about the history of this magnificent house and its lucky owner.

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-Hello.

-Hi, Paul.

-Pleased to meet you.

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I've gotta say, absolutely mind-blowing, isn't it?

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And I know it sounds corny, but who would live in a house like this?

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Well, the Moretons were wealthy landowners

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who came into the area, we think, around the 13th century.

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The family itself had wealth through corn mills,

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ironworks, timberworks, and primarily the land itself,

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and they wanted to show their wealth to everybody else,

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and each generation wanted to add their special part to the hall.

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Fantastic bay windows, magnificent ranges of glass.

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It's one of the best examples I think I've ever seen.

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It's a beautiful house.

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I want to show you another room, with fantastic decoration.

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OK, after you.

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Take a look at this, Paul.

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Gosh, look at that? Tudor wallpaper.

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-It's fantastic, isn't it?

-Yeah!

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It was fashionable in the 1570s

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to about 1600 to use painted panels, and here we've got the Moretons, who

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really are into fashion and wealth and wanted to express that wealth,

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and John Moreton got the panels painted. We think that you'd probably

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get travelling craftsmen who would come round and paint the stories

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onto the paper, and then, of course, it's pasted onto the wall itself.

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Incredible! Have you depicted what the stories are telling?

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Is there enough there?

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It's the story of Susannah And The Elders.

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So, come on, tell me about that.

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Susannah was the beautiful wife of a businessman and she was admired,

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shall we say, by a couple of elders in the town,

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and they went into her garden

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and she refused their advances.

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She is then actually put on trial and is about to be stoned to death for adultery,

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but our hero, who is Daniel,

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-who was actually in the far corner...

-The chap up there?

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That's the chap - steps in and asks them to look again at the evidence,

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-and, in fact, it's the two elders who are then put to death.

-Wow!

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-Look at that!

-But it's a fantastic piece of historic wallpaper,

0:23:510:23:54

and you get little details, like the wolf's head on the frieze.

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That's the Moreton coat of arms.

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Now, interestingly, of course, the fashions change.

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The fashion becomes, let's put wooden panelling on instead.

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And what do the Moretons do? They replace it with that.

0:24:090:24:12

By virtue of putting the panelling over that, it has protected it.

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-Of course.

-Obviously, the condition of that, it's been saved by the panelling,

0:24:150:24:19

but, overall, the house is in remarkable condition.

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It's a very solid structure.

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-It's a wonderful house.

-And I like the fact that you've kept it

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quite sparse inside because the space has the beauty as well.

0:24:280:24:32

It makes you appreciate the architecture.

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In many ways, our collection is the building itself.

0:24:340:24:38

-Yeah, it's one big antique, isn't it?

-It is, it's wonderful.

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Well, not only is it a delight to look at, but Little Moreton Hall

0:24:520:24:56

is a masterclass in Tudor woodwork and carpentry,

0:24:560:25:00

a perfectly preserved piece of medieval history.

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Phyllis, Ben, I think you might have the award for the youngest person here today.

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-How old are you?

-11.

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11? Are you a collector?

0:25:220:25:24

-No.

-Why?

-I dunno!

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Well, you've brought along this fantastic bowl for us, and is this

0:25:270:25:30

-something you found yourself, or is it a family piece?

-Family.

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Is it? Who does it belong to?

0:25:330:25:35

My great, great, grandma...two.

0:25:350:25:40

-Something you like eating your cereal out of it?

-No!

0:25:410:25:44

Well, it's actually one of the most famous people ever from the Potteries

0:25:440:25:49

has designed this... a chap called Frederick Rhead.

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Have you heard of Charlotte Rhead?

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-Yeah.

-Charlotte Rhead, no? I'll tell you about her.

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Charlotte Rhead, in the 1930s, was one of the most famous designers,

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but this is a bowl by her father, Frederick,

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and he worked in the Potteries, he worked in various factories really.

0:26:060:26:10

He worked for Wedgwood, and he also worked for Foley Intarsio.

0:26:100:26:14

They had wonderful Art Nouveau designs and that's reflected really in this,

0:26:140:26:18

and this is what Frederick Rhead is most famous for.

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This is known as tube-lining. Have you ever piped icing on a cake?

0:26:240:26:29

Had a go? Well, this is basically the same principle.

0:26:290:26:32

Big bag of clay, and you squirt it onto the side of the bowl,

0:26:320:26:37

and that's what this is - so it's basically known as tube-lining,

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and Frederick Rhead was well-known for reviving the fashion for it.

0:26:410:26:47

What is the pattern called?

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The actual name, I don't know, but the range is Elers Ware.

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Wood & Sons is the factory,

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and I know you've done some research?

0:26:560:26:57

-Yeah.

-Tell me what you found out.

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I think it was in about 1907

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that it was Wood & Son, and then it came to "Sons"

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-after 1907, and then "Limited" about 1912, something like that...

-Absolutely.

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-so it's got to be in that range, so it could be 100 years old.

-It is.

-That's what we're thinking.

0:27:110:27:15

Spot on. Whenever we're looking at Art Nouveau, it's in the first

0:27:150:27:20

15 years really of the 20th century, sort of 1900 to 1915,

0:27:200:27:26

and that ties in perfectly with the mark we have on the base.

0:27:260:27:29

OK. Well, having said all that, it's time for a value. What do you think?

0:27:290:27:34

-£50.

-Yeah.

0:27:340:27:37

-Would you sell it to me for 50?

-No!

-Why?

0:27:370:27:40

Because I want money!

0:27:420:27:43

I don't blame you! OK, well, I think it's gonna be worth more than that.

0:27:430:27:48

I'd put an estimate of £60 to £100

0:27:480:27:51

-on it, hoping it would make around mid estimate.

-Yeah, that's fine.

0:27:510:27:56

-Is that all right?

-Yep.

-Let's take it to auction and see how we do. Can you come?

0:27:560:27:59

-Maybe.

-Maybe. Gotta find out if you can have a day off school.

0:27:590:28:03

-But you're definitely gonna come, yes?

-Definitely.

0:28:030:28:05

-Super. See you. Fingers crossed we'll see you.

-Yep.

-Lovely.

0:28:050:28:10

MUSIC: "Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)" by Arcade Fire

0:28:100:28:12

Isn't this absolutely fascinating, Cath?

0:28:180:28:21

-Yes, it is.

-It really is.

0:28:210:28:23

It's a map of Paris, dated 1780, nine years before the French Revolution.

0:28:230:28:29

I can imagine English tourists having this and going to Paris, looking out

0:28:290:28:33

the sort of fashionable watering places, going to the shops, seeing

0:28:330:28:37

the sights, and at the same time the Scarlet Pimpernel would have needed

0:28:370:28:41

-one of these, wouldn't he?

-Yes!

-During the French Revolution.

0:28:410:28:44

This is extraordinary! Where did it come from?

0:28:440:28:47

Well, my father left it to me with one or two books.

0:28:470:28:50

-Did you have an interest in maps?

-Yes.

-Right.

0:28:500:28:52

Well, this is a beautiful map. It's steel engraving

0:28:520:28:55

and then all of this is hand-tinted, and obviously it was never taken out

0:28:550:28:59

during the rain because it hasn't got any runs or stains on it.

0:28:590:29:04

What I do find absolutely extraordinary is this wonderful

0:29:040:29:08

plate here, which is so decorative.

0:29:080:29:11

It explains the routes of Paris, and then you've got these

0:29:110:29:14

two emblematic figures either side, and the Royal Coat of Arms here.

0:29:140:29:19

Lovely, lovely piece, but the item you've brought along, which I find

0:29:190:29:24

absolutely fascinating, is the one that this is concealing underneath.

0:29:240:29:28

This one here is Bradshaw's Map of Canals.

0:29:300:29:34

Now, what do we associate Bradshaw with?

0:29:340:29:37

Well, the canals and things like that, surely!

0:29:370:29:40

Yes, but also he became famous with his railway maps and timetables.

0:29:400:29:43

Oh, yes, of course he did, yes.

0:29:430:29:45

That dominated the whole of the 19th century. You could rely on Bradshaw's.

0:29:450:29:50

This is fascinating, because where is Stoke?

0:29:500:29:54

Oh, there's Stoke, here. Now, this dates back to about 1825,

0:29:540:30:00

which is a very, very early map of the area.

0:30:000:30:02

What I'm surprised about is I always thought Stoke and all the villages

0:30:020:30:08

and the towns would have been crowded out with workers, and yet the number

0:30:080:30:11

of houses you see are very few.

0:30:110:30:14

-Yes, yeah.

-But this, again, is steel engraving, and it's all hand-tinted,

0:30:140:30:19

in beautiful condition.

0:30:190:30:21

Lovely, lovely maps.

0:30:210:30:23

Now, how much are we going to get for these? This is huge.

0:30:230:30:26

This is a quarter of a whacking great map.

0:30:260:30:30

I could see this framed and glazed in an office, or a study. It would look

0:30:300:30:36

terrific on the wall, wouldn't it? Likewise with the Parisian map.

0:30:360:30:40

I'd like to see this do certainly over £100, let's say £150.

0:30:400:30:46

I think we've got to box very clever.

0:30:460:30:48

We've got to put a figure that's going to attract people to bid,

0:30:480:30:52

so I'm going to suggest £80 to £120 as the estimate.

0:30:520:30:55

-Would you be happy?

-Yes, quite happy, yes.

-What are you going to do?

0:30:550:30:59

-Are you going to invest in more modern maps?

-I don't know!

0:30:590:31:02

-Or a sat nav?

-Oh, no!

0:31:020:31:04

-Thank you very much for bringing them along.

-Thank you.

0:31:040:31:07

Bill, Lillian, we've come all the way to Staffordshire,

0:31:120:31:15

the heart of the Potteries in England,

0:31:150:31:17

and what do we find? Worcester! Anyway, there we go.

0:31:170:31:20

A bit of Worcester for us, and, obviously, out of its area,

0:31:200:31:23

but one of the most famous factories of all time.

0:31:230:31:26

-Indeed.

-Are they family pieces?

-They were my father's, actually.

0:31:260:31:29

My father was a pottery manufacturer and he used to work

0:31:290:31:32

as a chief chemist for Wedgwood before the war, and he formed his own collection

0:31:320:31:36

of Wedgwood pieces, and also from other companies,

0:31:360:31:40

but as I think things have moved on, these tend to not be on display,

0:31:400:31:46

and it seems a terrible shame, really.

0:31:460:31:48

Worcester is so well known for its fruit-painted porcelain,

0:31:480:31:52

and here we've got three very good examples.

0:31:520:31:54

Albert Shuck is the artist for these two, and this one, you don't see as

0:31:540:31:58

much of this - this is by Bagnall but all around the same sort of period.

0:31:580:32:03

Worcester is very easy to date, and if you look at this mark here,

0:32:030:32:06

you see three purple circles,

0:32:060:32:08

or puce circles, and on either side of that there are a series of dots.

0:32:080:32:11

The three interlinked circles were 1932,

0:32:110:32:17

and then you add a dot for each year.

0:32:170:32:19

You've got nine dots, that's 1941.

0:32:190:32:22

That's quite unusual, really, because you wouldn't see British

0:32:220:32:26

people buying porcelain in the middle of World War Two,

0:32:260:32:30

but we've got a little telltale giveaway here - Buenos Aires.

0:32:300:32:34

We've got a Buenos Aires retailer, so this was made in Worcester,

0:32:340:32:37

has gone over to Argentina, has been sold in Argentina...

0:32:370:32:41

-And come back again!

-Back to Stoke!

0:32:410:32:44

Well, there we are, so that's got a bit of interesting history about that one.

0:32:440:32:48

You do get factories who are transfer-printing these pieces

0:32:480:32:51

and then hand-painting little bits over the top,

0:32:510:32:54

but these are all hand-painted, so these are very, very sought after.

0:32:540:32:58

This one is the best.

0:32:580:32:59

The softness of the painting of those wonderful grapes, you could almost

0:32:590:33:03

eat them, a real feel to them.

0:33:030:33:05

Now, values. Any ideas?

0:33:050:33:09

Not really. We've never had them professionally valued.

0:33:090:33:13

OK. I'm gonna put them as a group.

0:33:130:33:15

-OK.

-And that will give the auction room that ability to

0:33:150:33:19

split them up if they want to, it depends on their own client base.

0:33:190:33:23

We'll say £80 on this one.

0:33:230:33:25

The larger one, I think, is worth around £120.

0:33:250:33:30

This one, £200 to £300.

0:33:300:33:33

-Right.

-So, if we say an estimate of £400 to £500 on them, as a three?

0:33:330:33:39

That sounds very good.

0:33:390:33:41

-Could we put a reserve on them?

-Absolutely.

0:33:410:33:43

As a group, let's put 400 on them. So what are you gonna do?

0:33:430:33:47

Buy a great big piece of fantastic Wedgwood to replace them with?

0:33:470:33:50

Oh, I don't think so, actually,

0:33:500:33:52

because I'm a model railway enthusiast, so I may very well buy

0:33:520:33:55

-something for the collection.

-Fantastic.

0:33:550:33:58

Well, Worcester is something that we just can't get enough of.

0:33:580:34:02

-Yes.

-That's good news.

-Lovely.

0:34:020:34:04

Let's take them along and see how we do.

0:34:040:34:06

-Yes, thanks.

-Thank you.

0:34:060:34:08

But first, let's have a quick recap of all the items we're taking to the auction room.

0:34:080:34:13

I can see why this Frederick Rhead bowl caught James's eye.

0:34:130:34:16

It's a classic piece and it's in mint condition.

0:34:160:34:20

These extraordinary maps tell a tale of two countries.

0:34:200:34:23

Their tip-top condition should guarantee good interest.

0:34:230:34:26

And, finally, there's something for everyone with Bill and Lillian's

0:34:260:34:30

collection of Worcester. Let's hope the collectors are out in force!

0:34:300:34:35

When you talk about studio pottery, Charlotte Rhead is a name to be

0:34:440:34:47

reckoned with, but this one is by Frederick Rhead, her father.

0:34:470:34:50

It's a lovely little vessel and it belongs to Phyllis and Ben.

0:34:500:34:54

I gather...

0:34:540:34:56

What's Grandma been up to? She's sort of organised a sweepstake, hasn't she, Ben?

0:34:560:35:00

-Yeah.

-No, actually, I think it was Ben's idea!

0:35:000:35:02

Do you? Was this your idea?!

0:35:020:35:04

It was his cunning plan.

0:35:040:35:06

Born to gamble!

0:35:060:35:08

So what have you come up with, then?

0:35:080:35:10

What do you think this is worth?

0:35:100:35:12

£70.

0:35:120:35:14

£70, OK. And what about Grandma?

0:35:140:35:17

-75.

-75. And James?

0:35:170:35:19

-Ever the optimist, 80.

-£80.

0:35:190:35:22

-Well, why do you want to sell this, just a bit of fun?

-Yeah.

0:35:220:35:26

Ben likes to watch the programme, and we thought it was educational,

0:35:260:35:30

so the headmaster has put it down as an educational day for him.

0:35:300:35:33

-Great!

-Because it is, isn't it?

-It is so educational because you're always learning.

0:35:330:35:38

If you keep watching Flog It, you're gonna learn loads, and knowledge is money in this business, isn't it?

0:35:380:35:43

-Absolutely.

-Cos you get to spot those bargains.

0:35:430:35:46

Well, we're gonna find out exactly what we three think right now.

0:35:460:35:49

I expect you've made your own minds up at home,

0:35:490:35:51

but it's going under the hammer, right now.

0:35:510:35:54

Next one, 325, is the Elers Ware bowl designed by Frederick Rhead,

0:35:540:35:57

and I've got 45, 50 and 55 bid.

0:35:570:35:59

Is there 60?

0:35:590:36:02

At £55.

0:36:020:36:06

At this rate, you're all wrong!

0:36:060:36:07

£55. Any more at 55?

0:36:070:36:09

Well, I was told it had to be

0:36:090:36:12

fixed at 60, so I'm afraid I can't sell it, even though I'm bid 55.

0:36:120:36:17

No!

0:36:170:36:19

Didn't sell!

0:36:190:36:21

Would you like to change your mind and take 55,

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or do you want to take it out?

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-Take it.

-Yeah.

-Take it.

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-Take it.

-Take the offer? That doesn't happen in Christie's, you know!

0:36:260:36:30

LAUGHTER

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There's a little deal going on.

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He's just asked if we will reduce it.

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You've got a sweepstake on it as well, haven't you?!

0:36:340:36:36

So maybe James will make up the fiver difference!

0:36:360:36:39

-Yeah, I will!

-£55. All done now.

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£55, and we sell then. 55.

0:36:410:36:43

-Yes.

-Well done.

0:36:430:36:45

Cor! Well done, Adam, as well.

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It's gone. £55.

0:36:470:36:49

-That's great.

-That's OK, isn't it?

0:36:490:36:51

-And Ben won the sweepstake!

-Exactly.

-We've got to buy teas.

-You were closest.

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Yeah, the teas are on you!

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Teas and coffees on them. No?

0:36:560:37:00

-On James.

-On James, OK.

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He's got all the money, hasn't he?

0:37:020:37:03

David and I have just been joined by Cath in the nick of time.

0:37:100:37:13

The auction room is jam-packed! It's hard to get through

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that door right now. We've got the two maps

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in that beautiful little folder you brought in.

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One 18th-century of Paris and the other one is Bradshaw's maps of the

0:37:210:37:24

canals in Britain and I think it's a lovely little lot, I really do.

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£80 to £120.

0:37:280:37:30

-I can see this going for a little bit more.

-Well, we hope so!

0:37:300:37:33

I say double, actually.

0:37:330:37:35

-Yes, so would I.

-Because they're beautifully presented.

0:37:350:37:38

They've hardly been used, and if you look at that map of Paris, you'll go

0:37:380:37:41

-to Paris now and probably still see it around.

-You probably could, yeah.

0:37:410:37:46

It's the one with the canals that fascinates me, though.

0:37:460:37:49

I've not seen one before, so...

0:37:490:37:51

Well done, I'm kind of partial to that!

0:37:510:37:53

Look, this is it. Good luck, both of you.

0:37:530:37:56

-Let's hope it gets £150.

-We hope so.

0:37:560:37:58

The map and the plan of Paris, two in the lot there,

0:37:580:38:01

a nice lot.

0:38:010:38:03

-We've got some interest here, and I can start at £200.

-How lovely!

0:38:030:38:08

And I'll take 20... 210, 220, 230, 240, 250, 260, 270, 280, 290, 300,

0:38:080:38:14

-320, 340, 360, 380, 400...

-No, no.

0:38:140:38:17

380 bid. Any more now? 380 bid.

0:38:170:38:20

Any more now? 400, 420, 440...

0:38:200:38:23

-This is very good!

-420 now. £420.

0:38:230:38:25

Are you all done then? 420.

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Finished at 420.

0:38:270:38:31

-That's good!

-Gosh, I never expected that!

0:38:310:38:34

-Neither was I, and I don't think you were, either!

-I said double!

0:38:340:38:37

-You did, you did.

-I said double.

0:38:370:38:39

-Gosh, that's wonderful!

-A little bit of commission to pay, but what will you spend all that money on?

0:38:390:38:44

We've got our first grandchild on the way at the end of August.

0:38:440:38:47

-Aah!

-It's going to be Grandma's indulgence, isn't it?

0:38:470:38:50

-Oh, rather!

-It is, isn't it!

0:38:500:38:52

Remember the hand-painted Worcester porcelain? It's just about to sell,

0:38:570:39:00

and I've been joined by Bill and Lillian.

0:39:000:39:02

Now, we've got three lots, haven't we? The first lot,

0:39:020:39:05

the smallest one, is £80, the second lot is about £120 and £200.

0:39:050:39:08

-£200 to £300 for the pedestal cup.

-That's right.

0:39:080:39:12

And we've got a total valuation of about £400 to £500 here.

0:39:120:39:16

We are selling them separately, but all the money, I just read in

0:39:160:39:19

my notes, is going towards the model railway, is it?

0:39:190:39:23

-Well, not...

-I think he's had second thoughts about that.

0:39:230:39:26

Second thoughts!

0:39:260:39:27

-You mean you have?

-I had a subtle

0:39:270:39:29

reminder that it is our 25th wedding anniversary this year.

0:39:290:39:33

That's more important than a model railway!

0:39:330:39:35

-I think so.

-Cracking items these, James?

0:39:350:39:37

Yeah, great.

0:39:370:39:38

When we took them in on the valuation day we talked about splitting them up

0:39:380:39:41

-or putting them together.

-We did.

0:39:410:39:43

And I thought Adam would split them up.

0:39:430:39:45

It's the right thing to do, I think, but, you know, there are

0:39:450:39:47

-lots of people here today and they're gonna do very, very well.

-Good.

0:39:470:39:51

Well, fingers crossed and here's the first going under the hammer.

0:39:510:39:54

367 is Royal Worcester bowl painted

0:39:540:39:57

with fruits, by Albert Shuck, lot 367, little footed bowl there. £80.

0:39:570:40:02

£80. 50, 50 bid, 5 now.

0:40:020:40:06

At £50, 5, 60, 5, 65 bid.

0:40:060:40:10

Any more now? 65.

0:40:100:40:12

70, 5, 80 now, 80 bid. 85.

0:40:120:40:17

85 online. Any more on this lot?

0:40:170:40:20

85. Any further? The bid's online this time at £85 on the first.

0:40:200:40:27

£85. That's good, that's good.

0:40:270:40:30

First one down. Here's the next.

0:40:300:40:32

Worcester bowl painted by Albert Shuck again.

0:40:320:40:35

Lovely bowl, 368. Start me at £100.

0:40:350:40:36

80 bid, 5, 90, 5, £95, any more?

0:40:360:40:41

£95, 100 bid, 10, 110, take 120 now.

0:40:410:40:46

120, online at 120, any more? 130?

0:40:460:40:50

-140. At 140.

-It's good.

-It is.

0:40:500:40:53

Are you all done at 140? 150.

0:40:530:40:56

Any more at 150? All done?

0:40:560:40:58

160, 160, keep going, 160, any more now at 160?

0:40:580:41:04

Hammer's up then at 160, we'll sell at 160. 170...

0:41:040:41:08

Gosh, that was late in!

0:41:080:41:10

-170 bid.

-We like it, though!

0:41:100:41:12

-We do!

-Any more now at 170? 180?

0:41:120:41:14

At 180. Last chance. It's now at 180, we're gonna sell...

0:41:140:41:17

190. At 190.

0:41:170:41:20

Any more at 190?

0:41:200:41:22

At 190, 200. 200, any more now?

0:41:220:41:26

-Good heavens!

-At 200. 210.

0:41:260:41:29

LAUGHTER

0:41:330:41:34

-210. Are we done at 210?

-I think so.

0:41:340:41:37

I think we're done at 210. All done at 210 and we sell this one at £210.

0:41:370:41:42

How super! Second one down.

0:41:430:41:46

That's good news. Here's the last one.

0:41:460:41:47

This is the third one, 369, by William Bagnall, painted

0:41:470:41:52

with fruits. I'm bid 110. Take 20.

0:41:520:41:55

110 only, 120 now, 120.

0:41:550:41:58

130, 140, 140.

0:41:580:42:01

150, 160, 170. 170 bid.

0:42:010:42:03

Any more now? 180.

0:42:030:42:06

180 now, 180. 190... We've got the same thing happening again. 190?

0:42:060:42:12

-Got a bid.

-200?

0:42:120:42:13

At 200. Any further now at 200?

0:42:130:42:15

Are you all done now? £200, we sell this one...

0:42:150:42:18

-210.

-210.

0:42:180:42:21

All done and selling at 210?

0:42:210:42:23

Last chance at £210.

0:42:230:42:27

-Yes!

-Yes, very good, very good.

-Fantastic! That's all three

0:42:270:42:32

-sold, that's £505.

-Yes, very good, very good.

0:42:320:42:36

Well, they were spot on, really, with the £400 to £500, weren't they?

0:42:360:42:40

Got the top end of the estimate.

0:42:400:42:42

-Yeah.

-Very good, James.

-And it just shows you, doesn't it,

0:42:420:42:45

by varying how people can bid, there's bidding in the room,

0:42:450:42:48

there's bidding on the phone andbidding against each other on the internet - fantastic!

0:42:480:42:53

-You were dead right, dead right.

-Absolutely spot on.

0:42:530:42:56

Congratulations to James, and enjoy the wedding anniversary.

0:42:560:42:59

-Yes, yes.

-I'm sure we will, sure we will.

0:42:590:43:02

Well, that's it, it's all over, and all I can say is what a mixed day, but a thoroughly enjoyable one.

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we've run out of time here from Marshall's Auctions in Knutsford,

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