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For the last 37 years, an extraordinary event has taken place | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
every winter on this very beach. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
Yes, on Boxing Day, hundreds of bathers turn up | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
to brave the elements and have a dip in the freezing cold sea. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
Where else could Flog It be, but in Tenby. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
The crazy Boxing Day swimmers brave the freezing water here in Tenby | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
to raise money for good causes and the organisers | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
reward all those taking part with a commemorative medal. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
And there's also a prize for the best fancy dress. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
But mostly, people just enjoy taking part. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
Tenby - well, it's that sort of town. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
And the same spirit has brought all these people out here today | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
to join the Flog It queue outside De Vallance, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
the community centre, in the heart of Tenby. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Taking the plunge today with their valuations | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
are our experts Philip Serrell and Charlie Ross. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Now, will they sink or will they swim? What do you reckon? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
-Swim. -Swim. Yes, of course they will. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
Right now, it's time to get the doors open and get this massive queue inside. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
First to the table is Philip with what can only be described as a gift. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
Brenda, how you doing? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Very well, thank you. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Now, I think this is really, really interesting. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
I've got one of these at home that was my grandfather's. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
They're always known as Queen Mary's gift box, aren't they? | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
-Yes. -But they're not really Queen Mary's cos they are...? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
-Princess Mary. -Right. And I'm going to let you tell me all about it now, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
so you're going to become the Flog It expert | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
-and I'll sit here and listen. -The ambition of my life! | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
-Come on, then. -Well, this box was given to me by an elderly gentleman | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
about 25 years ago, cos he knew I collected tins | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
and I've got dozens of them and then I opened it up | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
and inside was the original contents with the card from Princess Mary | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
to the troops, which said, "With all best wishes | 0:02:23 | 0:02:29 | |
"for a happy Christmas and a victorious new year." | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
And this was in 1914. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
And then there was the original tobacco... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
and the cigarettes... | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
..and the badge with "Victory" written on it. Yeah. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
So, let me just take one of these... | 0:02:45 | 0:02:47 | |
Lord above! | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Look at that, eh? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
There's no health warning on those, is there? | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
No, and it's got Princess Mary's stamp on it. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
It's got Princess Mary's monogram just there, hasn't it? | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
And let's just see what else it's got in there. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
Have you seen that? | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
-Yeah. -Isn't that just lovely? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
-That's Princess Mary. -Her photograph seated. -Yeah. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Let me just shut the box up so we can just still see this cover. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
What we see in the sale room today is normally just that, isn't it? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
-Yes. -Cos these contents have long since gone. -Yes. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
And the thing that I always think is really really sad | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
-is they make little or no money. -No, I know. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Mind you, there were thousands of them distributed, weren't there? | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
-Yeah, but I mean how many Beswick horses were there made? -Yeah. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
-You know? -That's true. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
And that, without the contents | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
in an auction's probably, what, £5 or £10? | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
-Yes. Something like that. -And no more than that. And for people | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
who've lost family in the First World War, | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
I think they ought to be worth a whole load more than it is. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
Why are you selling it? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:55 | |
Well, I've got so many hundreds of tins | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
and the house we're in now, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
you can't display them like we used to be able to | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
and I saw Flog It was coming and thought I'd find something quirky. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:08 | |
You'd take it to Flog It and Flog It. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Yeah. I don't know how many people have seen one with the contents. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
No. And that's the key thing, cos the fact that you've got all of this. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
I just think that's absolutely lovely | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
and I think at auction this is going to make between 20 and £40. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
-And I think that you need a reserve on it at £15. -Yeah. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
I think if someone's got 20 quid at the auction, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
-they've got a real bit of history there, haven't they? -Yeah. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
And so, well done you, for bringing it in. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
-Some museum might buy it. -Let's live in hope. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
-Let's live in hope. -I don't know. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:39 | |
Carol, I spotted this across the room. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
You were sitting there holding this and I almost ran over to see you | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
because I got so excited about it. I think it's a splendid object, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
-rather wacky and wonderful. -Strange looking. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
-How did you come by it? -Well, my mum bought it. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
-It must have been a jumble sale, or some kind of sale. -Yeah. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
And then, when she passed away, my son had it... | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
but he's a bit of a coward, so... | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
-he sent mother today. -Did he come with you? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
-He's outside, I think. -But he wants to sell it? | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
-Yes. -Do you know anything about it other than what you see? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
No, nothing at all. We didn't even know what it was used for, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
-or anything. -No. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
It's a French word. It's an epergne. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
French word for a central table display. Normally, they're glass. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:33 | |
You see trumpet shaped vases, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
in a holder and they're quite often cranberry glass, Vaseline glass. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
This - I have never seen a combination of | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
death and flowers! | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
This is, after all, a fighter plane, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
from obviously the First World War and it's even got some working parts. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:54 | |
-That goes round. And the rudder works, as well. -Yeah. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
And it's dated 1919, so we know when it was made. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
-Yeah. -Right at the end of the war. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
The vases come out | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
and you see it's got that sort of yellowy look, brass look... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
-I think, originally, it was silver plated. -It's been well brassoed. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
It's been well cleaned to such an extent | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
that there is no silver plate left on that, whatsoever. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
But I think it's beautifully modelled | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
and I think it would be hugely collectable for the right person. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:30 | |
-Why does he want to sell it? -It's just stuck in the cupboard. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
It's no good in the cupboard. He doesn't like it, presumably. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
My mum had it out when she had it. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
-You've no idea what it might be worth. -Nothing at all. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
But, on the other hand, if I told you it was worth £3, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
-you probably wouldn't want to sell it. -No. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Did he say, "Mum, I'll sell this provided it makes so much?" | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
-Yes. Yes. -Did he? | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
-Yeah. -And what did he say? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
-Well, will it be worth us going to the auction? -Which is what? | 0:06:51 | 0:06:57 | |
-30, we'd say it would cost. -30? -Yeah. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
I think it's worth £200 or £300. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Oh, I think he'd sell it for that. Definitely. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
-I think we ought to put a reserve on it. -Right. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
If we say £200 to 300 and put a fixed reserve of £100 on it, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
so the auctioneer mustn't sell it, under any circumstances, below that. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
-Right. -And hopefully I'm proved right and it is worth £200 to 300. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
-Right. That's fine. -Do you think that's fair enough? -Yeah. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
I think a collector's going to have to have this. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
-I have never seen anything like it before. -I haven't. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
I've never seen an epergne as a plane. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
I shouldn't think anybody else has. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
Francis, thank you for bringing in one of my favourite items. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
-No problem. -I'm a tea caddy collector. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
-Are you? -I've got half a dozen at home. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Oh, my goodness. Now I know where this is going! | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
-No, it's not going to my house, unfortunately. -Oh, OK. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:54 | |
-How long have you had this? -I've owned it for a few years. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
My mother died in 2001, I think it was, and I inherited it then. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
But I think it's been in the family for some time. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
-Oh, that's nice. -Yeah. -But you don't want it, you don't use it? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Well, I'm a collector of other things, Paul, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
and there's only sufficient room in one's house for various things. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
-Do you live in Tenby, by the sea? -I live in Tenby, by the sea. Yeah. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
You've got a sort of naval theme going on there, a sailing theme. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Well, yeah, there's not many of us old matelos left, you know. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
Let's have a look at this. Now, this is a lovely, lovely example. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
I think the inside is more striking and prettier than the outside. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Yes, it is. You're right. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Architecturally, there's a lot more interesting caddies on the market, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
but look at that. Three compartments on the inside. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
And lovely colouring. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
-Cuban mahogany. Brought back from the West Indies. -Yep. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
I absolutely adore mahogany | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
because if you select the grain properly and cut across the grain, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
you get this wonderful flame figuring, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
which you can see they've achieved on the front face... coming up... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
-and on the top face. -Yep. -And of course, on both sides, as well. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
Made in London, do you think? | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Possibly. Yes. It looks like a typical Regency piece. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
-This is a George III - 1805, 1810, something like that. -OK. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
These were very very popular from the 17th century onwards. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
-Tea was brought back from the colonies from India. -Right. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
It was such a valuable commodity, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
only the real rich people could afford this. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Hence, most caddies had a lock on them | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
-to stop the servants from pinching the tea. -Right. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Little ivory finials that you can lift the lids off. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
These would have been lined with a foil paper, to keep the tea fresh. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
-Yes. -It's lost its lining. Two of these lids have a camber on them. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
They do, don't they? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
But that can be sorted out by a restorer. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
This compartment would have been a green tea and one for black tea. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
This would be an exotic blend or you could make your own mixture. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
-I see. -And the word caddy basically comes from the Malay word catty, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
which is a weight of tea and it was always sold in a certain weight. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
-So that's where we get the word caddy from. -I've never heard that before. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
I think it's really, really nice. And I don't think this is | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
-going to sell to a purist tea caddy collector. -No. No. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
He's going to be after something slightly more different, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
but as a treen box, I think it's definitely going to sell. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
-Right. -Now, let's get down to the value. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
With the lid sorted out and with the original foil linings, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
we'd be looking in the region of £200 to £300. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
-Right. OK. Yep. -So I think we should put this into auction, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:31 | |
-with a value of around 100 to £130. -Fair enough. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
Put a reserve on at £100, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:37 | |
but we've got to pitch it at the lower end because of the damage. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
Right. Right. No problem. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
-Let's go with it. -Let's Flog It. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
Yeah. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
Are you a bit of a drinker, Flo? | 0:10:54 | 0:10:56 | |
-Well, I like a drink. -I don't suppose your favourite tipple is? | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
-No. It's not Guinness. -What do you drink then? | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
-I drink cider. -Oh, gawd, that's fighting talk, that is! | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Oh, I don't drink a lot of it, but I like a cider. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
-How much, Flo? -If I go out for an evening, I have about three halves. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
-Are you sure that's not pints? -Not pints, no. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
I'll let you off, then. Where d'you get these from then, Flo? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
-Well, it was a Guinness rep that we were friendly with. -Yeah. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
-And he gave them to us in the mid-1970s. -Yeah. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:28 | |
And we read were collectables. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
-Yeah. -So we thought we'd come and... | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Time to get them gone. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:34 | |
-Time to get them gone. -Well, the man who invented this | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
"My Goodness - My Guinness" campaign was Gilroy. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
And he sort of invented the posters and the caricatures | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
in the 1920s and '30s | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
and these are by Carlton Ware. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
I think these are probably Wade. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
And they're all based upon that Guinness advertising theme, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
-but what have you done with them? -I don't know. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
I reckon, Flo, you packed these after your three halves of cider, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
cos we've got... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
that's broken off there, this poor chappie's got two broken legs. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
Our kangaroo, he's not going to hear a thing, is he? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
We've got a chip down here. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
Not quite sure what's happened on the back, there. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
Then we've got our Wellington boot and the turtle that I think's lovely. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
-Yes. The turtle is nice, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
They'd all be lovely, Flo, but you've played football with them! | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
If these were in perfect order, you could well have £150, £250 here... | 0:12:30 | 0:12:36 | |
but you haven't and that's because condition is everything. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
I think that you've got probably £30 to £50 worth. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:46 | |
We'll put a fixed reserve on them of £30. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
The thing is, you know, they're going to be properly catalogued. They'll be in the catalogue. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
They'll be on the internet, and people who collect Guinness memorabilia, they'll be there... | 0:12:53 | 0:12:58 | |
-but really, take these two away and you've got sort of buy two, get five free, here. -Yes. Yeah. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:05 | |
Well, let's hope they do really well at the auction for you, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
-and it's been lovely to meet you. -And you. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
-If they do well, can I have a cider with you. -Yes, certainly. -Good girl. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
Let's just have a final reminder of what's on its way | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
to the auction room, starting with Phillip's find, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Princess Mary's gift box with all its original contents. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
It's a real little time capsule. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
The silver biplane epergne is yet another reminder of a bygone era. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:32 | |
Hopefully, the overzealous cleaning | 0:13:32 | 0:13:33 | |
won't have rubbed off too much of its value. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
I love Francis' Cuban mahogany tea caddy, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
but the condition may hold it back. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
"My goodness," is all I can say about the damage on five | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
of the little Guinness miniatures, but hopefully, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
the tortoise and the Wellington boot will save the day. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Well, we've left Tenby and the coast behind us and we've travelled inland | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
to Carmarthen, to today's auction room. Peter Francis Auctioneers. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
And it's known locally as The Curiosity | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
and I think, here comes a real curiosity now. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
In fact... | 0:14:09 | 0:14:10 | |
Hello. No, it's not. That's today's auctioneer, Nigel Hodson. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
That's what I call arriving in style. It's good to see you. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
The Princess Mary gift box is also a bit of a curiosity, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
so let's see what Nigel makes of it. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
We've seen these on the show before. Princess Mary gift boxes. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
It belongs to Brenda and she is a box collector, but I think she wants to sell this one. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
I do think though, Phillip's put a come and buy me | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
on this, he's put 20 to £40 and I think it's worth £60. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
I reckon you could be right. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
The really nice thing about this, as I'm sure you know, Paul, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
is that as we very often see them in the sales, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
they're just an empty box that has been used as a tobacco box | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
by the soldier, after he's smoked the original tobacco | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
and cigarettes that was inside. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
There you have the original tobacco and cigarettes | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and also, the card from Princess Mary. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
-Yes. -I always find them really poignant, to be honest. -Yes. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
And the First World War is nearly 100 years ago. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
I reckon it's potentially an area of collecting in the future. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
I really do. And just as an interest... | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Oh, look at that. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
-There is another one. -I've just met a collector. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:20 | |
Here's one I prepared earlier. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
-This is yours, is it? -This is mine. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Something that I bought in the 1970s when I first started work | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
in the sale room. I thought it was wonderful that mine, too, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
had the original tobacco and cigarettes. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
One or two of the cigarettes have been smoked. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Mine also has the little card in its envelope. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
I remember being horrified when, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
having seen it as part of a job that we were dealing with, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
I sort of set my heart on buying it in the sale | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
and in 1974, or whatever it was, I had to part with £16 for it | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
which was an awful lot of money when I was earning about £10 a week at the time. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
But it's been a prize possession ever since. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
So £20 is very cheap. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
I think, well, either that or I paid a king's ransom for mine, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
one or the other, but this has got pretty much the original, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
as you can see, the original gilded finish. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
There is a slight problem with this as it's got a split in the corner, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
which I noticed when I was looking at it for somebody. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Are tin collectors that fussy? | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
It was one of the questions that was particularly asked | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
by somebody who was enquiring about this item before the weekend. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
-Hence the 20 to £40 which he's picked up. -Yes. -It's going to sell. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
I reckon it will sell. No problem. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
This is all very casual, which is quite fitting, really, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
because we're going with the flow and we've just been joined by Flo. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
We've got that wonderful Guinness memorabilia, Carlton Ware and Wade. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
We all love Guinness memorabilia and I certainly hope the bidders here | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
in the sale room do and we get a top buy for this today. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Good luck. It's going under the hammer and the auctioneer's selling over there. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
The collection of various Guinness advertising figures. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
What do I say? £50 away for the lot. £50 for the Carlton Ware. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
20 to go, then. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
20. 20's on the front row. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
At £20 I'm bid. At £20. At 20 only. Five. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
25. 30. At 30 on the front. £30 is here. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
At 30 on the front row. Five do you want now? | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Here, at £30 only, no more. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
-Selling. -Short and sweet. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
£30 only. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
-Sold them. They've gone. £30. -Have they? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
Yeah. Went within estimate. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:27 | |
Lower end. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
20 halves of cider, Flo, isn't it? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
Yes. I don't mind about that. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
It's not down to the money. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
No, it's down to the wonderful people like Flo here. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
If you're looking for something unusual and out of the ordinary, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
you're watching the right show. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Carol, we've got this gorgeous little epergne of yours and | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
I totally agree with Charlie on the valuation of £200 to £300, you know. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
I think it's a hugely collectable item, in the right hands. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Whether the right people will be here today... fingers crossed. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
That's what auctions are about. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
-They are a bit scary, aren't they? -Yeah. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
It's time to batten down the hatches and weather the storm here. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
We're going to put this under the hammer now. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
I think this is great and if it doesn't sell, | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
it's the wrong auction, the wrong day. There's another auction, OK? | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
-This is it. -A very unusual epergne which is a first for me. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
I've never seen an epergne modelled as a biplane. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
This is such fun. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:35 | |
First World War biplane with trumpets coming out the fuselage. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
-How mad is that? -What do I say for it? | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
In your hands, it's an unusual thing. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:43 | |
Never seen the like. What's it worth? £200 away to put me in. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
-200 to put me in. -He's got no bids on the book. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
100 to start me. For the epergne. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
-100 to start me. -Oh, come on. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
50 for it. 50, the lady in the corner. At 50. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
Can't believe this. | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
At 60 here. 60. 70. 80. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
At 80. 90. At 90. The lady in the corner at £90. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
Oh, have we got a discretion on this? | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
Do I see 100 now? In your hands at £90. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
A lady's bid in the room. All done. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
In the corner then, at £90 only. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
-He has. -We sold it at £90. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
100 reserve on it. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:21 | |
He used a bit of discretion. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
I think that's not enough. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
-It wasn't exactly chocks away, was it? -No. It wasn't exactly. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
-It didn't fly, did it? -No. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
No. Do you know, for me, it just put a smile on your face | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
and they're the kind of things you should invest in. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
It reminds me of The Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machine, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
that wonderful wacky movie. It's gone. OK. It's gone. We've got £90. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Right now, we have a change of auctioneer | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
and Jeff Thomas is now on the rostrum. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Up for grabs now, a Regency tea caddy. It's quality. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
Belongs to Francis. We've got a valuation of around £130. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
A fixed reserve at 100. It's the first of the caddies. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
There's several here in the sale, so we're testing the market right now. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
-Oh, right. We're pioneers. -There's a lot of people here | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
I hope they're not sitting on their hands and they're here | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
to wave them to buy this. It's going under the hammer now. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:16 | |
Lot 470. Early 19th century mahogany tea caddy. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
As shown there, catalogue number of 470. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Start me on this one, what, £100? | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
Let's hope it's a worthwhile day out from Tenby. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Well, I hope so. I've dressed up for it, Paul. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
£50 away. £30. 30 only bid. At 30, I got 30. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
Come on. He's struggling. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
30. 40. 50. 60. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
At 60. £60. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
£70 is it? At 60. Gentleman's bid, here, 60. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
At 60. 70. At 70. £70 bid. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
At 70. At £70. 80, is it now? At £70, are you all done then? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
At £70. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
He didn't sell it. He's put the hammer down and he didn't sell it. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
£70. Well, I'm pleased he didn't sell it for £70 | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
cos we want 100 quid for it, really. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Yes. I'll be guided by you. Yeah. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
-It was worth that. -Well, there we are. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
I don't know. It's a full room. They just don't want tea caddies. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-Luck of the draw, isn't it? -Yes. I'm really sorry. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
Never mind, Paul. It's been fun. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:13 | |
Next up, I've been joined by Brenda | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
and Phillip, our expert and we've got the Princess Mary 1914 | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
commemoration gift to the soldiers in the First World War, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
with a cheeky little valuation by Phillip. 30, 40, hopefully £50? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
It had, though, to be fair, it had some damage to the tin, didn't it? | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
-It was cracked. -You look too close, your eye's too good! | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
I didn't spot that. Nigel spotted that. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
Don't go telling all these other people here about it now. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
-Dear me! -But we think it could do the top end of the estimate. -Good. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
-40, 50, £60. That's what we want. -We do. -Up there. 60 odd. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
-It's going under the hammer now. Good luck, Brenda. -Thank you. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
This is one of the First World War period gilded brass tobacco boxes | 0:21:57 | 0:22:02 | |
that you come across quite regularly in sales, but unusually | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
with this one, it contains the block of tobacco and the cigarettes, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:11 | |
which originally came with it. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:12 | |
This is one, he obviously wasn't a smoker, so very politically correct. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
Nice for the collector to have all the bits and pieces inside. Lot 425. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
Some interest from collectors with me and I can start the bidding... | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
two bids very close together, in fact, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
I can start the bidding at 50. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
-Fantastic. -That's a real good price, isn't it? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
60 in the room now. At £55 I'm bid. With me at £55. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
Against you all, then. At £55. Is there 60 in the room? | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Are you done then? To sell? Against you all, then. At £55. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
Yes. That hammer's gone down. That's good. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
Do you know, I mean, buying into a piece of social history for £55 | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
and you get something like that, I think that's really special. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you so much, as well. -Thank you. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
When I think of romanticised Wales, I'm imagining rolling green hills | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
and wonderful stone built workshops isolated in the countryside, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
with possibly beams of sunlight sort of glittering in | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
on a lone artisan working inside there... | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
using hand tools, working with his hands, creating something | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
and hopefully listening to the sound of a gentle strumming harp. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
However, here in the village of Llandysul, near Carmarthen, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
a mini industrial revolution has taken place. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
The old handicrafts have been replaced | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
by computers and technology, transforming the art of harpmaking. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
And it's all down to a small community of workers. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
The project is called Telynau Teifi and it's spearheading | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
the mechanisation of harpmaking, creating employment | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
and harnessing the skills and enthusiasm of young local people. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
The scheme is the brain child of Allan Shiers, who began making harps | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
as an artisan, 30 years ago. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Tell me a little bit about harps. It's such an unusual instrument | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
to be involved with. How did that happen? | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
I worked for a chap called John Weston Thomas, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
who resurrected the craft of harpmaking in Wales, cos prior to that, it had died out. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
I worked for five years and stayed in contact with him | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
when I went to teach at the Welsh Instrument School. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
So, his harps were the ones to have for anybody that was into Celtic music? | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
-Yeah. -What was it like to make your very first complete harp? | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
-Can you remember that day? -Yeah, I can. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
John Thomas and I worked together. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
We said we'd make two halves in parallel, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
so he could keep an eye on me and then at the end, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
the people came to play them and they were just | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
equal to each other and that was quite a moment. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
He always said that eventually, the pupil should exceed the master | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
or the master has failed, which is daunting cos he was a great chap. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
And then, he's died now, but we've gone on to make concert harps | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
which he never did, so we're taking that on to the next generation | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
and expanding what we do. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
What's the difference between a concert harp | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
and one of the standard harps? | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
If you thought of, say, a mode of transport as being a bicycle and a motor car, they're both very... | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
-as different as that. -Appropriate for different needs, but the complexity of parts | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
is about 2,000 moving parts in a concert harp, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
but far less in a folk harp or a Celtic harp. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
How long would it take you to normally build a Celtic harp? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
By hand, it would be about six or eight weeks. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
And then a concert harp, about a year. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
I remember thinking "Crumbs, I've spent... | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
"however many weeks making that harp and somebody's actually paid for it." | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
-And that must be a nice feeling. -Well, when they play it, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
when the harp sings for the first time, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
it's quite a special moment, really. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
At my age, you start thinking, "Hang on, how can we pass this on | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
"to the next generation before I lose my skills." | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
The best way to do it, I felt, was to actually make it into | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
a community business, if we could, involving the local authority. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Bought an old school, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
so we built it into a team of people, rather than an individual. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
The question was how you did it, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
how you actually changed from a craft into a community business, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
a one-man band to seven or eight people | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
and then the way that you communicated those skills | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
using appropriate technology to take away the drudgery, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
and free you up to do the creative stuff. That's the bottom line, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
does it frees you up to be creative? I think that's the best way. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
These youngsters coming in have been brought up with computers | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
and they'll be using skills I don't have | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
and that's great cos it's a cross-fertilization. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
I need them and they need me and that makes the team more balanced. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
Do you think there might be a danger that | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
-all the old ways might be replaced? -I don't think so. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
I think the quality of the wood and the soundboard | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
and the acoustics, are still very human | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
and even though we've done something on a machine, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
it still has to be hand finished and toleranced and fitted, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
so all the machines do is break the donkey work down. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
We have people who are a bit like I was when I was 16, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. Anxious to learn | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
and get the thrill of actually turning stuff into things. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
-And then when it's played, what a reward! -Yes. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:20 | |
I think that's human nature. That doesn't change with age. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
I still get the same buzz, but for me, it's nice to see | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
one of the lads who's done something, sit back and I know exactly | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
what's going through his mind and that's very creative. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
If a 16 or 20-year-old can do that, there's a chance this will survive. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Do you think the definitive harp has been made yet? | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
No. I wouldn't keep struggling, I think, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
and the harp, to some extent, is still in its infancy. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
Stradivari, Guarneri, Amati violins, that's the absolute, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
I don't think we've got there with the harp and that's exciting. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
The work of Allan Shiers' Telynau Teifi community | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
is certainly ongoing. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
Not only are they embracing new technology to improve the instrument, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
but they're also closely working with Cardiff University | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
to improve the instrument's sound. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
You can definitely say the future of this stunning instrument | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
is in safe hands. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
Back to the valuation day now, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
and Phillip has found yet another piece of militaria. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
-And Karen, how are you? -I'm OK, thank you. -Good. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
I think these are absolutely lovely. Tell me all about them. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
They were given by my grandfather | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
to my grandmother at the beginning of the Second World War. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Was your grandfather in the Second World War? | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
I don't believe he was in the Second World War. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
-I know he was in the First World War. -Right. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
But whether they'd had a regimental function, I'm not sure. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
-Do you know which regiment he was in? -Royal Artillery. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
-And these are the colours of? -The Royal Artillery. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
-And this is the emblem of? -The Royal Artillery. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
I'm told by our soundman who reckons he was in the Royal Artillery, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
they are the senior regiment. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
-Right. -So, that's a bit special, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
I think these are lovely quality, actually. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
And your grandfather was Alex. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
-Yeah. -And your granny was Alice. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
-Yep. That's it. -So, this is just a little lipstick compact, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
with this lovely enamel decoration round it. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
I would think this is silver, but it's not hallmarked. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
And you've got to put it back just right, haven't you, otherwise | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
your motif doesn't match or line up properly. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
And this is a little powder compact and if we just have a look inside, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
this is silver and it'll be hallmarked... | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
they're going to love me here cos I'm going to get powder everywhere. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
Do you want me to hold that? | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
And this is a hallmark and this is by the Goldsmith & Silversmith's Co, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
which is like one of the best hallmarks you can get, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
-I think this is absolutely lovely. Let's put it back together. -Yep. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
That's just marvellous. Can I ask you something, here? | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
These are not hugely valuable. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
I think we put an auction estimate of 60 to £90 on them | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
-and a reserve of 50. -Yeah. -Why are you selling them? | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
I think...my mother and I have looked at them | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
and we think, if we... We're not inclined to use them | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
and we just think maybe somebody that either collects compacts | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
or collects royal artillery we'd maybe rather | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
see somebody really like them and display them. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
Rather than have them in a cupboard or a drawer, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
-You want to share them... -Yeah. -..let someone else have them. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
The bizarre part about antiques today is that I think if you wanted to go | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
and replace those new, they might cost you £500 or £600. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
-You can add a nought on the end. -Yeah. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
-But ladies don't use these, do they? -No. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Well, on that note, we'll put it into the auction and hope | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
that the good ladies of Carmarthen, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
not only have a royal artillery connection, but they do use... | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
-Compacts. -Compacts. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
Yeah. That'll be great. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
-Now, Gerald, you are on a mission today, aren't you? -Quite right. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
-You have been sent here. -Yes. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
I've been ordered to sell these. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
-By your wife. -By my wife. -She didn't want to come along, herself? | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
-No. She's cooking. -She's cooking. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
How long have you been married? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
-Oh, 50 years, I suppose. -50 years! | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
-You suppose. -Well... | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
-Seems like 50. -No. I'm not going to say that! | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
In case that does come up. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
I said it. I'll get away with it. Do you know what they are? | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
I didn't until I was told today. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
-You've been told they're Stourbridge glass. -Stourbridge glass. Yes. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
So where did they come from? | 0:31:58 | 0:31:59 | |
Well, my wife bought them in a boot fair. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
-Did she? -A few years ago. Yeah. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
-Do you know what she paid for them? -No, I don't. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
-She probably wouldn't admit it. -Possibly not. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
But she liked them, I know. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
I think the great thing about these, Stourbridge factory | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
was really the only factory near Birmingham, making this sort of | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
quality glass, late 19th century, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
-1880, 1890, so they've done 100 years. -That's going back a bit. -Yeah. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
And to be perfect is good, isn't it? | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
Extraordinary. I can't see any damage in these at all. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
They're double overlay and unusually, | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
you have this lemon yellow over the white interior. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
Extra quality, if you like, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
with these wonderful castellated tops that are crimped as acanthus leaf | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
round the tops and they are perfect. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
-Not even a chip I've seen. -Amazing, isn't it? | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
-Phenomenal. -Yeah. -With similar bases. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
Pinched through the middle here, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
round the waist and the feet are perfect, as well. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
I suppose, if one had any criticism, it would be | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
the colour wouldn't necessarily suit everybody. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
No. They like red, don't they? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
I think if you were to say that these were in cranberry glass, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:17 | |
crumbs, I think you'd be doubling the value, | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
-not that we've said the value, yet. -No. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
So, there's got to be some sort of value attached to these | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
otherwise you'd be taking them home to the missus, wouldn't you? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
Oh, yes. I'd be in trouble, otherwise. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
-Would she be happy with £50, do you think? -Not really. -Not really. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:37 | |
I think we could estimate these at 100 to 150. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
I wouldn't want to see the reserve at much more than 75. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
-That would be fine. -Do you think that'll get her over the bar? | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
I think I could get away with that. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
We'll do that. Thank you very much for bringing them along. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
-That's all right. -We just hope the auctioneers | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
keep them in the same condition they're in at the moment. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
-Oh, yes. That's a point. -We'll instruct them to. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
Thank you, Gerald. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
-Is your name really Dai Morgan? -It is, yes. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
-I've never met a Welshman called Dai Morgan. -True Welshman, Pembrokeshire born and bred. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
What do you do around here, Dai? | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
I work for a waste management company in Pembroke. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
-What else do you do? -I'm the head doorman here at the De Valance. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
Head doorman here! | 0:34:23 | 0:34:24 | |
-You haven't had any trouble with the BBC, have you? -No. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
-No, not yet. -But is that your job to, sort of, eject people? -Yes. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
That must be a tough old job. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
-No. I actually love it. -Really. -I love it. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
-Frighten me to death, that would. -No. It's good. -Is it? | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
-You get to meet loads of different people. -I should say you do! | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
-Where's this come from then? -This is my girlfriend's grandfather's. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
-And she wants to sell it. -Her mum does. -Why does she want to sell it? | 0:34:45 | 0:34:48 | |
I'm not too sure. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
-Just time to go. -Yeah. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Basically, gathering dust. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:53 | |
-Do you know what it is? -It's a Rolex watch. -You're absolutely right. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
Let's jut have a look at it. If we open up the front here, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
you can see that the big hand has actually been replaced at some time. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
Yes. I was told that. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
But, otherwise, the face appears to be in not bad order, at all. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
If we turn it over and look at the back, | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
we can actually see | 0:35:14 | 0:35:15 | |
on the wheel here is indeed... | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
-The word Rolex. -..the word Rolex. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
-Those magic words. -Yep. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:21 | |
And it's also got Rolex written on the case and W&D, | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
-who were in fact quite well known case manufacturers for Rolex. -Right. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
And we've got import marks, I think, for somewhere between 1915 and 1920, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
so we can say that this is probably just before the First World War. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
-Oh, right. -Would that tie in with what you know about it? | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Yes. Yeah. He actually - my girlfriend's grandad - | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
-he actually swapped it with a colleague in the war. -Really. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
-Yeah. -Do you know, I love watches. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:47 | |
And I was looking through a watch catalogue the other day | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
-and I think a Rolex made £62,000. -Very nice. -It wasn't one like this. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:55 | |
-No. -This was a 1970s Rolex. | 0:35:55 | 0:35:57 | |
And a lot of people buy Rolex, they don't want the simple old-fashioned Rolex | 0:35:57 | 0:36:02 | |
where it doesn't say Rolex on the face. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:05 | |
It's almost like, if I've got one, I want everybody to know it. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
-Yeah. -I think this is a pure collector's item. -Right. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
I think at auction, you'd put an estimate on it of £100 to £200. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
I think we'd put a fixed reserve of £80. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
-How does that sound to you? -That's fine. Yeah. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
-It's cheap for a Rolex, isn't it? -It seems cheap and for the age as well. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
-Absolutely right. -You never know, might be lucky on the day. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
Well, that's a great philosophical attitude to take towards auctions, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
-but fingers crossed. -Yep. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
Time to take another look at our lots as they head off to the sale room in Carmarthen. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:39 | |
The collectors will love the lipstick and powder compact, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:42 | |
with the Royal Artillery insignia. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
The time has come to see what the bidders make of | 0:36:45 | 0:36:48 | |
the pre First World War Rolex watch. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
And finally, lemon yellow may not be to everybody's taste, | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
but the Stourbridge glass vases are in perfect condition | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
and they're real quality. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
Gerald's Staffordshire glass vases. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
Nice pair. Good quality. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
-I'm not sure about the lemon colour, personally. -Nor me. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
He got them in a boot fair. I don't know how much for, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
but Charlie's put a valuation of 100 to £150 on them. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:23 | |
Ouch, I would say to that, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:24 | |
but perhaps Charlie knows more about them than I do. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
I'm not keen on this sort of glass, at all. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
Perhaps the lemon colour is why they're worth the money. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
But I think we might struggle to make that sort of money. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
-I hope I'm proved wrong. -Obviously no interest, so far? | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
Not that I've had any dealings with. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
No. No. Not that I've noticed. No. No. I've tried to avoid them. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
-I shouldn't say that, really, but there you go. -Look. Fingers crossed. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
-Either you like canary yellow or you don't. -And we don't. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
I think we might be on a sticky wicket with this one. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
For you, sir. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
We're just about to sell your silver compact. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
-It is a family heirloom. -It is, yes. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
-Any regrets, cos it was your grandparents? -No, not really. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
We're too concerned that, because it's got enamel on it, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
it would get damaged if we used it. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
I totally agree with what Phillip said. He said to me earlier... | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
you can imagine this down the Burlington Arcade, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
it would be twice as much money if not three times. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
I mean, it's so individual, it's so cleverly put together, as well. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
-I think it's a really lovely stylish thing. -Well, good luck. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
-Thanks very much. -It's going under the hammer now. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
Let's just hope this family heirloom brings you lots of money. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:38 | |
-Here we go. -Lot 350... | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
is the silver compact. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:42 | |
Octagonal form. Engine turned decoration. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
Interesting for me, it's got the insignia of the Royal Artillery, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
-which was my father's regiment, there we are. -Best buy it then! | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
On the book at £50. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Get in there! | 0:38:53 | 0:38:54 | |
Bid's at 50. May I say 60 now. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
60, the lady behind us. 60. 70 at the very back. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:59 | |
80 on my right. 90 at the very back. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
100 on the right. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
At £100 I'm bid. With you, madam, at £100. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
That's good. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
At £100 I'm bid. May I say 110? | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
With you, madam, on my right. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
Selling then. All happy? | 0:39:11 | 0:39:12 | |
For £100. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:14 | |
-Good result. -They'll either give it to someone who's in the same regiment | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
or they'll wonder what the hell they're ever going to do with it! | 0:39:18 | 0:39:22 | |
-It's gone. -It's gone. -It's gone. £100. Happy? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
-Yeah. Definitely. -OK. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Coming up next, we've got the pair of Stourbridge glass lemon coloured vases. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
How can you forget those? Well, I've been waiting for this little moment. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
I'm pleased to be joined by Gerald, their owner. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
We've got a valuation of £100 to £150. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
We had a chat to the auctioneer before the sale started, Charles. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:51 | |
Don't tell me. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
It's the colour. We just didn't like the colour. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
I think Nigel and I both agreed with each other | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
that they just might struggle at that sort of money, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
but we don't know. I mean, it's not our field, the speciality. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
-Condition...perfect. -Perfect condition. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
That's going for them. Size... perfect. Pair... yes. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
Great. Colour... | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
not so good. Just not so good. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:16 | |
If you had to choose a colour, this would be the last colour | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
you would choose in the world, but never mind. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
We're going to find out exactly who buys them and who pays what | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
right now because they're going under the hammer. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
Pair of canary yellow Stourbridge glass vases. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
There you are. What do you say for those? What are they worth? | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
-He's not sounding enthusiastic, is he? -No. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
100 for those? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:39 | |
50 to get on then, surely? | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
50. Opening bid £50 away for them? | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
-Please. -20? Bad as that? Oh, dear. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
At 20's all I'm bid. A seated bid at 20. 30 here. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
At 30. 40. 50. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
Well, done. 60. We're nearly there. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
£50 is all bid. At 50. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
At 50. May I say 60? No more? | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
At £50 is all we have. No more? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
At £50, not to be sold there I'm afraid. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
Gerald, it's not our day. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:05 | |
It was that lemon, wasn't it? That lemon colour. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Gerald, couple of bids short. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:10 | |
-Yeah. Pity we didn't put them pink. -Yes. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
A cranberry would definitely sell. So sorry they've got to go home. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
Never mind. It's one of those things. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
-Yeah. -Another sale another day, as you say. -We tried our best. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
-Couldn't do better. -No. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Right now, we're going to find out | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
who's going to give us £100 or £200 for Dai's Rolex watch. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
You could say time's up really, couldn't you? | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
We'll find out in about one lot time. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
Yeah. I don't want to be doing time. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
Quality, though and I think the name Rolex will help sell this. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
I like it cos it's subtle, it doesn't blaze out Rolex. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
Yeah. Not sort of big logos of Rolex all over it. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
Well, Dai, let's hope we get that top end. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
It is time to find out right now what's going on with that one. This is it. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
404, the little early 20th century Rolex silver wrist watch. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
-Interest here with me. -Oh, that's good. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
£100 is what I have here with me. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
-At 100. 120 on the settle. -120 now. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
-140. 160. -Still bidding. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
180 I've got. 180. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:20 | |
200 bidding away at the back now. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
-210 is all I have. At 210. -210. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
220 is now in the room. At 220 in the room. 220. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:29 | |
At 220 in the room. 220. Any more? | 0:42:29 | 0:42:31 | |
-That's good. That's good. -That's ridiculous! | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
£220. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:35 | |
Fantastic. That's quality. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
Rolex is a quality watch. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
£220, less a bit of commission. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
You went to see a spiritualist a few days ago, didn't you? | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
-I did, yes. -Did they predict that? | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
-No. -No. -They didn't. No. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:49 | |
Well, what can I say? What a great day we've had. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:01 | |
Our owners have gone home happy. Big smiles on their face. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
This is my spiritual home, Wales. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:05 | |
It started off in Tenby by the coast. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
It's ended up in Carmarthen, | 0:43:08 | 0:43:09 | |
in a wonderful auction room, surrounded by Welsh oak. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
It doesn't get much better. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:14 | |
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