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It's been invaded by the Romans, the Saxons and the Danes.

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It's also outlived the plague and leprosy.

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But can Derby survive Flog It? We'll see.

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When it comes to antiques, Derby's reputation is formidable.

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Since 1750, local craftsmen have been producing porcelain.

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140 years later, that porcelain won the Royal Seal of Approval from Queen Victoria.

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To this very day, Royal Crown Derby remains highly collectable.

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But will we find any Crown Derby at today's venue, the Assembly Rooms?

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The queue is on its way in, so let's see what the people have got.

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It looks like we could be in for great day. No sign of any Crown Derby yet though.

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Here at the Derby Assembly Rooms,

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our experts are leaving no stone unturned in the hunt for treasures.

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Experts Michael Baggott and Mr Philip Serrell

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are already on the scent and if they flush it out, we'll flog it!

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First up is Michael, who's been intrigued by what looks like a jewellery box.

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Rosy, Jane, I love the promise of an unopened box.

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So let's have a look and see what we've got here.

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Wonderful. I don't think the original box, but a beautiful little gold, aquamarine and sea pearl brooch.

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So tell me who does the pendant belong to?

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It belongs to me.

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And it was my great granddad's.

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Did it skip you? Did you say...?

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Yes, my mum's had it for years in a cupboard and she gave it to Rosy.

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Fantastic thing to be given. No chain, but have you ever worn it, or tried to put it on a chain?

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No. It's been in the box for years.

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-Not your taste?

-No.

-It's strange how jewellery goes in fashion.

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At the moment, everyone wants bold, 1950s, modernist jewels, Art Deco.

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It's moved away from this fine Art Nouveau work,

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which is a tremendous shame, because look at the amount of time and care that has been taken to make that.

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Those little aquamarines didn't cost a lot

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and the sea pearls were a matter of a few pennies each,

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but the quality of manufacture...

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And there, just in the top corner,

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we've got a little pad stamp for nine carats.

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It would have been too fragile to mark this with any assay office marks.

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You'd have just obliterated it. So they've just thickened it up there so it will take the impression.

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-Any idea how old it is?

-I don't know.

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-No.

-Well, it's Art Nouveau, it falls into that period

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from 1890 up to about 1905, with commercial production into 1910.

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I think this is about 1900, so obviously going back to your great aunt.

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That would fit in nicely. It's a lovely thing.

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Any idea of the value of it?

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-None at all.

-Well, it might surprise you, might shock you, but I think in the region of £80 to £120.

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-That's good.

-Was that what you were expecting?

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Oh, yeah!

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When something is made of gold and gem stones, you expect it to be wildly valuable.

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So you sort have to temper your expectations.

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As you say, it's been locked away in a cupboard.

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So if we put a fixed reserve of £80 on it, and it makes that or hopefully

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makes the top end - keep our fingers crossed - what are your plans for the money?

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My mum needs a new car, so I'll probably put it towards that.

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It might buy a couple of tyres. We'll see what happens on the day.

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-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Thank you.

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Peter, I like this.

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This caught my eye from over there.

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-Thank you.

-I like slightly Impressionistic 20th-century moderns,

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slightly loose, that kind of thing. And this fits the bill.

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Tell me about it.

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-My mother in Germany.

-You're German?

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My mother-in-law, they had a bit of money, but to turn the money into something more valuable,

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because the German mark was losing value, so they bought the pictures.

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-OK.

-They knew pictures are better...

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-A better investment.

-A better investment.

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And of course she died

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and the picture is now left for my wife and me.

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-And my wife died two months ago.

-I'm sorry to hear that.

-Yes,

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so I'm left by myself and so what can I do with the pictures?

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OK. Well, let's talk about this one.

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For me, it's got everything going for it.

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It's got the right colours, it's quite loose and it's a good size.

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Hoff Muller...

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we've got a bit of information on the back here, which is quite nice.

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It's in its original frame, isn't it?

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-Yes, it is.

-You can see it's been signed.

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30th October, 1932.

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-Hoff Muller.

-Hoff Muller.

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-And there's the English translation.

-That's the English translation.

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Autumn on Uppersea near Bernau?

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-So that's in Austria?

-Yes.

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The condition's good as well.

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A lot of people go, "It's not my cup of tea,"

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art is so subjective. But I like it and I wish I could paint like that.

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I'd be proud of doing something like that.

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-Thank you.

-I did look him up ten minutes ago in the book.

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Hoff Muller does have form.

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There is a price guide.

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He's had about ten works of art, oils on canvas, put up for sale

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in auction and they have all varied from around 300 to 500 euros. I don't know

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if he's more popular in Germany, but he was a poster painter

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and his prints sell for quite a lot of money.

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Looking at the way he paints,

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-you can see, he paints like a poster painter, can't you?

-Yes.

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It needs more information to go with it to make the whole story full.

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Nevertheless, we can put it into auction,

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-if you'd like to sell it. Would you like to sell it?

-Yes. I would.

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We could put this into auction with a value of about £70 to £100.

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-Hopefully it will get just a bit above that. Would that be OK?

-Yes.

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-Hopefully it might end up back in Germany with a collector.

-Might do.

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-Well, we'll find out.

-Thank you.

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So here we've got Lady and the Tramp.

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Not lady and the tramp, but Lady and the Tramp!

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-Lady and the Tramp.

-Now, you said that, not me!

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-That's right!

-Cos these are from the Walt Disney film, aren't they?

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-Yes.

-How did you come by these?

-At a garden party, I either won them or got them for a small amount.

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How long ago was this?

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-This was 20 years.

-So mid 1980s?

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Yes.

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Right. Cos they're from Lady and the Tramp, which is Walt Disney,

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-and Lady and the Tramp would be what, mid-70s?

-I don't know.

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-They are by Wade.

-Yes.

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Little Wade whimsies and little Wade Lady and the Tramp figures that we normally associate

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are very tiny and these are the blown-up versions.

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So that is Dashy the Daschund and which one is this one?

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We think that's Trusty. He is a Bloodhound, isn't he?

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He's a Bloodhound, absolutely.

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These things were mass produced and weren't intended to be great quality like Derby, Worcester or whatever.

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So why do you want to sell them?

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They're on a window sill at the moment.

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Or they were, but we put them into a cupboard, because we thought the value of them, in a window sill,

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if a grandchild knocks them off, they won't be worth anything.

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-Absolutely right.

-So we thought, well, let's dispose.

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You know, five years ago, I think these things were probably worth more than they are now.

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But the advent of the internet and people selling these things

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has meant that it flushes more of them out and the days of high prices for these, in my view, is gone.

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Now, we've looked at some auction records this morning and

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we've found some figures that, three to four years ago,

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these two might have made between £200 and £300.

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But I think those days have gone.

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If you've got something that's a bit of a kitsch market, which sort of goes up and down on a fad

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or a fashion, which I believe these are, then prices of those can fluctuate greatly.

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It's my view that at auction you need to estimate these at £80 to £120.

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Now, if you have a real result,

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it might be

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that they might go and make £150 to £200.

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I think you might just struggle with them and our 80 to 120 is a good estimate.

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You know, the valuation of something, really, is what somebody's prepared to pay for it.

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So when we go to Bamford sale room, my guess is we'll find out what these

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are worth. And I imagine that we'll all be wrong!

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Thank you very much for coming.

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-We'll see you at Bamford's.

-OK. Thank you.

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We'll be coming back to more valuations a little later in the show.

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Before that, let's see how our first three items do at auction.

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Firstly, there was the little gold and aquamarine brooch that Michael fell for.

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But will the price be right for Rosy?

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This painting by German artist Hoff Muller certainly caught my eye.

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I hope it makes a good price for Peter.

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Finally, Philip may have doted on the dog figurines,

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but will the bidders be bitten by their charms?

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For today's auction we're staying in the heart of Derby.

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But before things get going, I grabbed a quick chat with auctioneer and Flog It regular, James Lewis.

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We've got a couple of hounds for you and it's not Philip or Michael,

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it is in fact two lovely Wade figures.

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They're far prettier!

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They belong to Cedric and Jean and Philip has put £80 to £120.

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It's the name, they're very collectable and they're dogs.

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Wade made these blow up figures for a number of years.

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The little miniature Wade whimsies sell every time. They're very easy to sell.

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It's a mad world when 18th-century porcelain can be very difficult,

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and you get something like this from a cartoon that sells week in, week out, without any problem.

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-20th-century collectables. That is where the market is.

-Childhood memories as well.

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And there is a book price, so people feel safe buying things like this.

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Dalton figures, isn't it? Flick to the page, look it up, Beswick hunting sets, all the same thing.

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I have to say, I actually quite like them,

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and I think Philip's got a secret love for them as well.

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He's a hound dog!

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-Top end?

-Yes, I hope they'll make top end.

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It's what I'd have put on, typical auctioneer's estimate, £80 to £120.

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I hope they'll make a bit more. I like those a lot.

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Next under the hammer is Jane's gold and aquamarine brooch. It's been in the family for a long time.

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-How can you bear to part with it?

-It's been in a drawer for years...

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-It's the answer we always get.

-The usual answer.

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There's no point keeping things in drawers. Move them on

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-and get something you want with the money.

-Yeah, spend the money. Did you ever wear it?

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Nobody wore it, that I know of.

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-You don't want to keep it in the family. Kids don't want it?

-No, they're not interested.

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-Let's flog it. That's what we're here for.

-Absolutely.

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Let's put it under the hammer right now. This is it, good luck.

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Art Nouveau nine-carat gold pendant

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set with aquamarines and sea pearls.

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And start the bidding, we've got a single bid on it, £60. And five now.

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£60. 5. 70. 5.

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75. 80 and 5. 85. 90.

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Against the commission at £85. 90 now.

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At 85. 90 behind?

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No. At 85. Lady standing, at £85.

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Do I see 90? With you at 85.

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-That's a good result.

-That's a fair price.

-£85, Jane.

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It's better than putting it

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-in a drawer, at least you've got the money to spend.

-Thank you very much.

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Spend it on something you're not going to put in a drawer!

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-Me and my daughter are going to spend it between us.

-There you go.

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It's my turn to be the expert. We've got the wonderful, slightly loose, Impressionistic

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Hoff Muller oil painting and it belongs to Peter here.

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We've got a value of around £70 to £100.

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I'm hoping for the top end. Fingers crossed.

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This is the first picture in the sale going under the hammer, so we're testing the water, really.

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But I know we need top dollar, because the money's going towards

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-your wife's headstone, who passed away recently.

-Yes. I'd be very grateful.

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-What have you been up to in the last few month since we saw you at the valuation?

-Not much.

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-Just organising things?

-Organising, yes, and preparing some more things to go for auction.

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OK. Well, good luck, this is it.

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Hoff Muller, a super picture, that one.

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Really has got a good look about it.

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Dated 1932, two bids on it.

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One at £55, one higher. £60 starts. And five now.

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At £60 and five do I see?

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Five. 70. Five?

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It's with me, it's against you. £70 with me and five do I see?

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At 70, all done at £70.

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These are the moments I dread in an auction room.

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We give a valuation

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at what we think is a good pitch

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and hopefully people bid against each other and work the bid up.

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But there was only two bids left.

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-It can't be helped.

-But we got it away and that's a start.

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It's an honest start. Thank you so much for coming in.

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It's your turn next! We've got the Wade figures.

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-Cedric and Jean, great to see you again. Who is the dog lover?

-I am.

-They were yours, were they?

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Why are you flogging them now?

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I thought someone might like them for their collection as they're rare.

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We've got a value of £80 to £120, Philip.

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I had a quick chat to James the auctioneer before the sale

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and he chuckled and said, this is so typical, these things are selling so well,

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compared to anything, let's say, 18th-century porcelain.

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-Nonsense, really.

-It is crazy, absolutely crazy.

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But there are collectors that want this kind of thing.

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-You sell them at your sale room?

-Absolutely.

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The pair of Wade Disney blow-up figures, Lady and the Tramp.

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We've got three bids,

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£70 starts them. 70. 80 now?

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80 do I see? 80. 90? 100. And 10.

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Look at the price of these!

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At 120. 130. New place. 140. 150.

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150. 160. 170?

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170, shakes his head at 170.

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Are you sure? At 160, it's here.

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All done at 160. 165 if you like.

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At £160, are we all done?

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The hammer's gone down at £160.

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Can you remember buying them?

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-Yes.

-What did you pay for them?

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I got them from a white elephant stall

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in a garden party and it was about 20 years ago.

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And what did you pay for them?

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-I can't remember.

-About a pound, I would think.

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-A couple of quid. What a good investment!

-I bet it wasn't £160, that's for sure!

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If you've got any Wade figures like that, hang on to them or put them into an auction,

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because they're making top money right now.

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For most of us, a wood like this one in Derbyshire

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is a place where we come for a pleasant walk for the day,

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maybe with the dog, embrace nature and see a lot of wildlife

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and hopefully have a nice picnic and then at the end of the day go home.

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There's not many of us would think of spending the night here,

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especially without a tent, let alone go foraging for food.

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But there is one man who does exactly that, and his name is Dave Watson,

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and he teaches bushcraft skills here at Spring Wood, and he's promised to show me

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how I can live in this environment with just the things that surround me.

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Dave! It's great to meet you.

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-Hi.

-What's your dog called?

-Jess.

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She's beautiful, a collie, how lovely.

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So what are the key ingredients I need to survive in the woods?

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Well, you need to have a shelter, you need a fire.

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Yeah, keep warm.

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Some water and some food.

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So everything is here around us right now?

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Yes. A bit like learning a language, you've got to understand how to interpret it.

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-It's all here.

-And you've got to know where to look?

-That's right.

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OK, I see you've got some A-frames there. Shall we start

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by looking at how to build the home? OK.

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Here's one that was done yesterday by a bunch of schoolchildren.

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About an hour's work there with obviously lots of them, so perhaps two or three hours for yourself.

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Looks nice and cosy, that will keep you warm, so we've got a home established there.

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That's obviously the start of it, the superstructure.

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-It is, it's very important.

-Let's have a look at that.

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So what we've got here is a strong ridge pole,

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which we've just stuffed into the ground to find like buffer.

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We've got two strong branches, and they're propping it up.

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Next, you want some poles to make the frame.

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Shall I give you a hand? What happens here?

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OK, thick end at the bottom

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and then just find a place where it naturally lays.

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-So now we need to weather-proof it.

-That's right.

-Next stage.

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So we need a few more branches to form like an anchorage, and then we get bundles of bracken,

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fronds pointing down, and then it really is a thatch.

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And this, if it's done well, really keeps the weather out.

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That looks nice and cosy. So we've got our home built.

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The next thing is to build a fire in front of it so we can keep warm.

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Yes, but for the method we are going to use today, we are going to need some string.

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String is another invaluable tool that the woods can provide.

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Stinging nettles supply the fibres needed to produce a cord.

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The nettles are first stripped, revealing the strong internal fibres.

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They're then dried out over a number of hours.

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These fibres are then bound using a simple twisting technique.

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One of the many uses for this natural string is to create a bow.

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OK, here's one that I made last year.

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This has been used for making several fires.

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-Hopefully it'll do another one for us today.

-What's the next stage?

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Well, we've got string, we've got a bit of hazel, which is like a universal drill.

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We get that on, a stone as a bearing block.

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That pushes the pressure down.

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It could be a hard bit of wood.

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Then we need something to catch the coal, so we've got a slip of bark.

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So put the drill in place and then start off slowly,

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making sure it all sort of works.

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And look at that.

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That's very quick! I didn't think it would be that quick.

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Well, I can make it last longer if you want.

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No!

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I love the smell. Oh, that's wonderful.

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We've wafted it, it continues to smoke, so we know we've got a coal,

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and then we take the base away,

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let the oxygen feed into this,

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and then this is going to get bigger and hotter, so I'm not rushing.

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Then we've got some dry grass,

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in the centre of which I've got some fine tinder,

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a bit of rosebay willowherb.

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We've formed it very much into the nest,

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and then we take this precious ruby, drop that into the centre.

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Fold it over.

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Some long, drawn out blows.

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-Fire!

-Exactly!

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-And there we go.

-Oh, dear, look at that.

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And then you get fine sticks placed on there.

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If the flames look like they're dying down, we can...

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Get the oxygen in there.

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That is really good, Dave.

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We've got a great fire going to keep warm. What we need now is some food.

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Dave assures me that in this stretch of woods alone there are enough nutrients to sustain us.

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And taking a brief stroll from our shelter, we came across just some

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of the wood's edible plants and wild foods.

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Even more important is knowing what to avoid.

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-Plants like this, the foxglove.

-It's poisonous, isn't it?

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Deadly, so you do need to know what you're talking about.

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To highlight what a great diversity of wild foods can be found here,

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we headed back to camp, where Dave had prepared some other plants.

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-Well, the fire looks good, Dave. It has picked up now.

-Yes.

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We've talked about what sort of foods are available,

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and you went on a forage this morning before I arrived.

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-What have you got?

-Well, I've got a few treats.

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We've got some of those berries.

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We've got some redcurrant, which is out,

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and that's lovely and sweet.

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-Have one of those.

-Thank you.

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Oh, that's beautiful.

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What are those?

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-Well, this is ear fungus.

-Urgh!

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It's quite pleasant, when you chop it up, stir fry it, this is great.

0:21:380:21:42

-You can't eat it raw like that.

-Well, you can.

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It's like rubber, is it? Ear fungus - where does that come from, a tree?

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Yes, it comes from elder, mostly.

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-Yeah.

-We've also got some of the wild garlic, the ramsons,

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and that grows abundantly in places.

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Lovely! That's gorgeous.

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What else is in there?

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-We've also got some horns, or the shoots of the reedmace, and this is good food.

-Can you eat that raw?

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-It's not a good idea, because it comes from a pond.

-Oh, right.

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So, it's good to make sure you can neutralise all of the bacteria.

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So it's best sort of chopped up and cooked.

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It's all about knowledge. The more knowledge you've got, the easier it is to survive.

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The more time you put into honing your skills, the less effort it is to do whatever task you want to do.

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Point out the difference between survival and bushcraft.

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Well, on the surface a lot of skills may fit the same,

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but the root of them is quite different.

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So, in survival you're fighting against the situation,

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to get to a better place.

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With bushcraft, you're working with your situation.

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I can see you love what you doing

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and it must be wonderful passing on this knowledge to all people

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from all walks of life, kids, city people,

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they come here and they develop a new personality, basically.

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That's what makes me tick.

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Yes, I can see that.

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Yeah, I recommend it to anybody, even if it's just for the day.

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Come and learn a bit about bushcraft skills.

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-Thanks so much.

-Pleasure.

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We're back to our valuation day at the Derby Assembly Rooms,

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and there's plenty more people to see, so let's get things going.

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Sheila, thank you for bringing this very intricate drawing along today.

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-Can you tell me, how did you come by it?

-As far as can I remember,

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I found it in a box of bits under a stall at a book fair several years ago.

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I think I paid about £2 for it or something.

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But it's been stuck in a drawer ever since.

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Flog it!

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You've got a tremendously good eye if you can pick that out of a box at book fair.

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To all intents and purposes, I thought it was a book illustration,

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and it well may be a drawing for an illustration that was put into production.

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It's that diminutive size and we've got it here, two fantastic tigers

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and this wonderful exotic landscape that I don't think really exists.

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We've got it signed here by AT Elves.

0:24:140:24:18

-I'll be honest, that's not an artist that I...

-Or is it Elwes?

0:24:180:24:21

Now you're testing me. Let's have a look.

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Yes, it is, you're absolutely right, Elwes,

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and it's not an artist I have come across before, but he is obviously a very gifted individual to do this

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very fine work, simply with a pen, to give such a realistic effect.

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How can you tell it is an original?

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You can see under a lens that it's fine penwork and not an engraving.

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It's really, for a minor artist,

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too much trouble to go to forge something

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that might only be worth, as you paid for it, £2 at the time.

0:24:490:24:53

I think if somebody offered that to me for £500 to £1,000 and it was by a major artist,

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and I had nothing to back it up, I would be slightly suspicious,

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but the value is an indicator, at least in this case,

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of its genuineness as an original pen and ink washed drawing.

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It suffers on a couple of points, though.

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Because it's monochrome

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and because it's diminutive in size and has that look of a book illustration,

0:25:150:25:20

it is not the most commercial thing in the world.

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But it's a very pleasing subject matter,

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and I can't believe that anyone that saw the work that went into it

0:25:260:25:29

could value it at less than say £30 or £50.

0:25:290:25:34

So, a good return on your £2 but...

0:25:340:25:36

-Well, yes.

-Why have you decided to sell it now?

0:25:360:25:39

Well, I was coming to Flog It and to be legal, I have to bring something that I'm willing to sell,

0:25:390:25:46

so that's it.

0:25:460:25:47

So you brought this fellow. Well, I'm delighted that you did.

0:25:470:25:51

I think if you're happy with that and we put a fixed reserve of £30 on it,

0:25:510:25:54

you don't want to sell it for any less than that.

0:25:540:25:58

I don't want to sell it for less than £30, no,

0:25:580:26:00

there's an awful lot of work in there,

0:26:000:26:03

-and if it's underappreciated, OK, I'll keep it.

-Absolutely.

0:26:030:26:07

We'll give it a go at auction, and hopefully two people that love it as much as we do will be there.

0:26:070:26:11

-Thank you so much for bringing it in.

-Thank you, Michael.

0:26:110:26:14

-Jo, this is a sweet little bracelet.

-Yes, I've had it since I was 21.

0:26:190:26:23

-Not very long, then.

-Flatterer!

0:26:230:26:26

So, it was a 21st birthday present.

0:26:260:26:29

Yes, but it was the only chain,

0:26:290:26:32

-which was half of my father's fob chain.

-Fascinating, so you got half.

0:26:320:26:38

-Yes.

-Who got the other half?

0:26:380:26:40

-My sister, for her 21st.

-That's quite novel and quite inventive,

0:26:400:26:44

but I think that's quite sad, because it was chopped off... well, you haven't.

0:26:440:26:49

But then what is it worth to us as a watch chain, as two girls?

0:26:490:26:54

I don't know, I've got no answer for you, but...

0:26:540:26:58

At least we could do something with it, which as a full length of chain we couldn't do anything with.

0:26:580:27:03

I just think in days gone past, our ancestors, bless their cotton socks, they split up silver tea sets,

0:27:030:27:08

by giving somebody the jug,

0:27:080:27:10

-somebody the tea pot and sugar bowl, and I think it's sad.

-It is sad.

0:27:100:27:17

It's sad when things get split up, I also think it devalues them,

0:27:170:27:22

because it isn't how it started out life.

0:27:220:27:25

But in this instance, I can see where you coming from.

0:27:250:27:28

What I find fascinating, is that charm bracelets were very much of thing of yore.

0:27:280:27:33

-Oh, 1970s.

-1970s.

0:27:330:27:36

-Everybody wanted one.

-You had to have...

0:27:360:27:38

Every time you got some money, you went to jeweller and got another little attachment.

0:27:380:27:42

And they were like the Rolls-Royce.

0:27:420:27:44

So a gold charm bracelet in the '70s, that was right up there with the flock wall paper, that was the best.

0:27:440:27:51

So, why do you want to sell it?

0:27:510:27:54

They're old fashioned now.

0:27:540:27:56

There has been a piece of jewellery, they're very noisy to wear.

0:27:560:28:00

Clank-clank.

0:28:000:28:02

Also, the sharp edges pull on your clothing and pull threads of your clothing.

0:28:020:28:06

That's why I've never worn one.

0:28:060:28:09

Well, gold is very much at a premium at the moment,

0:28:090:28:11

and I think we can estimate this all day long at £120 to £180.

0:28:110:28:16

It might go and make you £200.

0:28:160:28:20

It depends where the gold price is on the day of the sale.

0:28:200:28:23

We'll put a fixed reserve on it of £120.

0:28:230:28:25

What are you going to do with the money?

0:28:250:28:27

I have got some guttering that needs repairing.

0:28:270:28:30

Guttering?

0:28:300:28:31

You see, what I think...

0:28:310:28:34

I won't tell you what to do here, but what I think would be really good if this makes £150,

0:28:340:28:39

if you can somehow manage to keep a bit of that £150 away from your guttering,

0:28:390:28:43

just buy something to replace the 21st birthday present that you had.

0:28:430:28:47

So 120-180, you're happy to sell it?

0:28:470:28:50

-That's fine.

-All the sentiment in world won't dissuade you not to.

-Not when I don't wear it, no.

0:28:500:28:54

-I think you're probably right, really. Let's hope it sells well.

-Good.

0:28:540:28:58

Claire, thank you for bringing these wonderful pieces of jewellery along.

0:29:040:29:08

-Can you tell me where you got them from?

-Yes, this was left to me by my grandmother 20 years ago,

0:29:080:29:14

and this one with was left to me by my great aunt.

0:29:140:29:18

-Fantastic. Were they ladies that wore a lot of jewellery?

-Oh, yes, in their day, yes.

0:29:180:29:23

-So these will have seen a lot of use.

-I think so, yes.

0:29:230:29:26

If we look at the ring first,

0:29:260:29:28

-if your grandmother was wearing it, that would be around 1900, 1910?

-Yes.

0:29:280:29:33

Which is absolutely right for the period of the ring.

0:29:330:29:37

We've only got a little 18 carat stamp there, that's fairly normal.

0:29:370:29:41

The one thing that immediately strikes me as being wrong about it is the central stone,

0:29:410:29:47

because you have got this fabulous diamond, probably set into silver,

0:29:470:29:51

so it makes the diamonds very white,

0:29:510:29:54

and I would expect to see an opal there,

0:29:540:29:57

especially that shape, but we've got a rather plain bit of turquoise.

0:29:570:30:01

But that was her favourite colour,

0:30:010:30:03

so either she bought it because of that, or she had that put in.

0:30:030:30:08

I have a feeling Granny was about mischief and she changed that.

0:30:080:30:13

-Probably, yes.

-Unfortunately, whoever has done it

0:30:130:30:16

has ripped off a little bit of the mount just there.

0:30:160:30:19

It's almost imperceptible. That's a pretty ring, though.

0:30:190:30:21

-If we move on to Great Auntie's watch?

-Great Aunt Kit.

0:30:210:30:25

Did Great Aunt Kit have the smallest wrists in the world?

0:30:250:30:31

She must have, yes. I know it looks small, but I can just about fasten it.

0:30:310:30:36

-You can't!

-I have, I've just tried.

-Oh, my word.

0:30:360:30:39

Well, that's phenomenonal.

0:30:390:30:41

But if you need a testament as to why people were a bit smaller in the '20s, you've got that.

0:30:410:30:46

This is a fabulous cocktail watch, very Art Deco.

0:30:460:30:49

You've got these very Odeonesque angular borders, and its parve set with little diamond chips,

0:30:490:30:54

and what's nice is you've got diamonds set all the way round, which is really extravagant.

0:30:540:31:00

Set in platinum, which was a favoured metal in the '20s and '30s.

0:31:000:31:05

I would be very surprised if that dated very much later than 1925.

0:31:050:31:08

So, why don't you wear them today?

0:31:080:31:13

Well, I don't wear many people wear many cocktail watches now, and the ring just isn't me.

0:31:130:31:19

Don't they have any tremendous sentimental attachments for you?

0:31:190:31:22

Well, yes, they do, but I have been left some other pieces which I do wear.

0:31:220:31:27

And there's no-one else that would look after them or they could be passed to?

0:31:270:31:30

No, it's just very big on your hands.

0:31:300:31:35

-If they've got no real sentimental value...

-Not really, no.

0:31:350:31:38

The best thing, to pop them into the sales.

0:31:380:31:40

So, any ideas of values of them?

0:31:400:31:43

Well, I was hoping about £500.

0:31:430:31:46

Right, right.

0:31:460:31:47

I think had Granny not whipped the opal out and put a bit of turquoise in, that would not be a problem.

0:31:470:31:54

Someone's got to have bit of vision

0:31:540:31:56

and see they see it in auction, and imagine it with a different stone set into it.

0:31:560:32:00

I think we would be safe at £400 to £600 for that.

0:32:000:32:05

The cocktail watch, because it is so small, the bracelet will need some work doing to it.

0:32:050:32:10

That is not an inexpensive thing,

0:32:100:32:13

so I think we're probably £300 to £500 for that as it stands.

0:32:130:32:19

-But a fixed reserve of 400 and 300, if you're happy with that.

-Yes.

0:32:190:32:23

We'll put them into the sale and hope some very sophisticated, elegant,

0:32:230:32:27

Art Deco loving lady with incredibly small wrists comes along to the sale.

0:32:270:32:32

-OK.

-Thank you very much for bringing them in.

-OK, thank you.

0:32:320:32:35

Well, that's the last of today's valuations,

0:32:350:32:37

but before we head off to auction room,

0:32:370:32:39

here is a quick reminder of what we have seen.

0:32:390:32:42

Sheila brought in this delicate illustration,

0:32:420:32:45

but how will it do with Michael's valuation of £30 to £50?

0:32:450:32:49

Joan was given this bracelet from her father's fob chain, and Philip's hoping it will make top end.

0:32:490:32:55

Claire treated us to a double valuation.

0:32:550:32:57

Firstly, there was the petite but stunning Art Deco cocktail watch

0:32:570:33:01

and finally that striking diamond ring with the replacement stone.

0:33:010:33:05

Welcome back to the auction room.

0:33:080:33:10

Flog It regular James Lewis is on the rostrum, and the sale's under way.

0:33:100:33:15

Earlier on, one of our lots had caught James' eye, unfortunately not for the right reasons.

0:33:150:33:20

Well, they say diamonds are a girl's best friend.

0:33:200:33:22

Well, it's a good job, because more than half of our bidders here are women.

0:33:220:33:26

A good 70%?

0:33:260:33:29

Probably 60, 65.

0:33:290:33:30

This belongs to Claire, before you go ahead.

0:33:300:33:34

You're just about to say, "I have to say..." I'm dreading this!

0:33:340:33:37

It's an 18 carat diamond set in silver, it belongs to Claire, it's too big for her.

0:33:370:33:41

It was her grandmother's, so it's been in the family a long time,

0:33:410:33:45

and Michael has put £400 to £600 on this.

0:33:450:33:48

Well, I've known Michael since university days, we go back a long way,

0:33:480:33:52

and he is a fantastic jewellery valuer.

0:33:520:33:54

I disagree with him here, I think he has gone too over the top.

0:33:540:33:58

-It is not "pretty" pretty.

-It's not a very commercial ring.

0:33:580:34:00

-It's been altered.

-It has been altered, it is 18 carat, set in platinum not silver,

0:34:000:34:05

but that's the case with most of these rings.

0:34:050:34:08

Imagine that with a beautiful sapphire or an emerald or ruby.

0:34:080:34:12

That would be a good-looking ring.

0:34:120:34:14

There's a really ugly clump of turquoise in the middle of this

0:34:140:34:18

that looks as if it has nothing to do with the ring whatsoever.

0:34:180:34:22

The diamonds on the outside are a lovely colour.

0:34:220:34:25

But at the end of the day £400 to £600,

0:34:250:34:26

it's a lot of money for a ring with a lump of pale blue turquoise in it.

0:34:260:34:30

Too much, I think.

0:34:300:34:31

-What would you have put on this if it came into the room?

-I would have put way less on it!

0:34:310:34:35

-Two to three?

-We took this to specialist jewellery sale that we had in Matlock,

0:34:350:34:39

and it was on view there and I asked all the people to look at this,

0:34:390:34:43

it's not in this sale, but we have got it in a sale coming.

0:34:430:34:46

And I've got a lot of bids on it, but there was not a single one above £300.

0:34:460:34:49

I think it's gonna struggle, I'm afraid.

0:34:490:34:51

Bad news on that one, but I'll try my best.

0:34:510:34:53

It sounds like it's going struggle.

0:34:530:34:55

We've heard what Michael said, now we've heard what James has said.

0:34:550:34:58

You've probably made your own minds up what it is worth. We're going to find out what the bidders think.

0:34:580:35:02

-It's now up to you to get on the rostrum and fingers crossed, work some magic.

-I'll try.

0:35:020:35:09

Sheila and Michael, good luck.

0:35:140:35:16

We're just about to put the book illustration under the hammer.

0:35:160:35:19

We're looking for £30 to £50.

0:35:190:35:22

-Yes!

-I take it you both lived a some stage in the same postcode area?

0:35:220:35:26

We were both born in the same area of Sutton Coldfield.

0:35:260:35:30

-About a mile apart?

-Yep.

0:35:300:35:31

But many years apart.

0:35:310:35:34

You we can always tell one another when you've born in the same area.

0:35:340:35:37

-How is that?

-If I told you, I would have to kill you, Paul.

0:35:370:35:40

Like the Masons' handshake for Sutton Coldfielders.

0:35:400:35:44

You look fantastic, Sheila.

0:35:440:35:46

-You put us to shame.

-Stunning. Well, absolutely.

0:35:460:35:50

Thank you, I wore it out shopping yesterday and somebody said you look nice, so I said, "That's it."

0:35:500:35:54

That's the outfit for Flog It.

0:35:540:35:56

That's the outfit to wear. Let's hope it brings you good luck.

0:35:560:35:59

We need the top end of the estimate for this little book etching.

0:35:590:36:02

Pen and ink book sketch.

0:36:020:36:05

I've got one bid and one bid only, and £30 takes it.

0:36:050:36:09

At 30 and two do I see? At 30 and two anywhere.

0:36:090:36:13

At 30, all done.

0:36:130:36:15

-That was quick, Sheila.

-At £30 with, anywhere else? Just take it.

0:36:150:36:20

Hammer's gone down, in and out.

0:36:200:36:22

I think that was very fair for what it was.

0:36:220:36:24

It was a little pen and ink sketch,

0:36:240:36:26

and sometimes you can come to an auction like this

0:36:260:36:30

and find 50 or 60 in a folio for £40 to £60.

0:36:300:36:33

I know you found it very well and bought it cheaply,

0:36:330:36:37

which was eagle-eyed of you.

0:36:370:36:39

Sheila has a cracking eye.

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You've got a good eye.

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You know you have, I can see.

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Everyone from Sutton Coldfield has, Paul.

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Well, this is where we bring out our lucky charm, it's Joan's lucky charm made out of an old watch fob.

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We're looking at £120 to £180?

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-Yes.

-Let's hope we get that top end, because those watch fobs fetch good money.

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I've got a distinct feeling that this '60s and '70s vintage and retro stuff are the next things that take off.

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This could be a Flog It trend-setting moment.

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-OK.

-Watch.

-Watch this space, and start investing.

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Listen to Philip.

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No, don't! Oh, do, do, do!

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Why are you selling this?

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Well, it's '70s, which I don't wear.

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OK, so it's out of fashion.

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It's chunky, noisy, the charms pull the threads on your clothing.

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But bling's in now.

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-But it spoils your clothes.

-OK!

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It's going under the hammer now. This is it.

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Nine carat gold charm bracelet

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with the sovereign and five bids, 140, 160...

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Yes.

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-Get in there.

-And two of them are identical at the top at £255.

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So, 260 do I see?

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All the bidding on the absentee form at £255, anywhere else?

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260, lady in the centre takes it. Against them all.

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£260!

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£271.

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-Crumbs.

-Do you think she is going to wear it?

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James put the hammer down with conviction, £260.

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That is a surprise, isn't it?

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-It is.

-It's the fob chains, as you say, very collectable, everyone wants them.

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The price of gold as well.

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Yes, it is, yeah. What are you going to put that money towards?

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It was a 21st present from my parents, so I feel a bit guilty getting rid of it,

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so I'm going to buy another piece of jewellery that can I wear and can display,

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-and my father would agree with that.

-Lovely. Well, well done.

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Next under the hammer is Claire's Art Deco watch.

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We've got a valuation of £300 to £500,

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we do have the watch, it's going under hammer.

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Unfortunately Claire can't be with us, but we do have Michael, £300 to £500.

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-It's got to be worth that.

-I've never seen anything like it before.

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Usually you get them with diamonds around the bezel and you get a black strap.

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-But you've got diamonds half the way down the strap, which is fantastic.

-It catches your eye.

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And I have seen one last week go in a sale for 550 that didn't have as many diamonds in it.

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-That's a good sign!

-So let's hope it hits that top figure.

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The ladies' Art Deco diamond and platinum cocktail watch.

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Very pretty lot, this one, circa 1920, 1925.

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The glass is cracked, but other than that it is a fantastic watch,

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don't let it put you off, easy thing to repair.

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And £210 bid, at £220. At 210 with, 220 do I see?.

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At 210, 220?

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220, yes, 220, 240, 260.

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240 with, 250 if you like.

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240 with me.

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It's not going sell at 240.

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-Unbelievable.

-At 240, are you all sure?

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At 240...no, that's not sold.

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I won't be getting on the phone to Claire straightaway.

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No, I'll have to do it, won't I?

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But if it goes in another specialist sale, another day,

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because maybe the fact that it is such an esoteric thing has put a few people off.

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Yes, it needs a specialist jewellery sale, this is a general auction, and it didn't find a bidder.

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It's disappointing not to see Claire's cocktail watch go.

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Now there's double pressure on that diamond ring, and remember, the forecast isn't good.

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Right, OK, it's time to put Claire's ring under hammer, the one with the turquoise stone.

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You saw Michael talk about it at the valuation day.

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You've just seen James talk about it in his auction preview chat.

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Was he unkind about it?

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No, James said he's known you for years and year and everything you say is spot-on.

0:40:410:40:46

-Stop there.

-I agree with him, cos you're a purist at heart and I love that about you.

0:40:460:40:51

-He said...

-Too dear.

0:40:510:40:54

He did say... He said 200 to 300, rather than 300 to 400.

0:40:540:40:58

As you know, we've got off-screen valuers,

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and we did have our jewellery specialist there on the day.

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-John.

-And my initial feeling about the ring...

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It's been replaced, the stone.

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That horrible turquoise in the middle was about £200.

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But he confidently told me the diamonds were worth £500, so we put it in at four to six.

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But the trouble is, it needs a member of the jewellery trade to see it to buy and to replace the stones.

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-And that's a costly process.

-And I can't see any members of the jewellery trade.

-No, not today.

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Hang on, let me have a good look, Michael.

0:41:280:41:29

-No, no. Fingers crossed.

-You've heard from Michael as well,

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you've probably got your own opinion what is going to happen,

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but watch this, cos it might be totally different, this is it.

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This 18 carat diamond and turquoise ring,

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lovely coloured diamonds, good early ring,

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and lots and lots of interest in it.

0:41:470:41:49

I can start the bidding at £220.

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220, 230?

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That's James and me right.

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250? 250. 280? 280.

0:41:570:41:59

280, 300? 300 with me. 300, 320?

0:41:590:42:06

-300 with me, 320? 350, 380.

-We've sold it.

-Goodness.

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390, 400. 390... One more, go on!

0:42:120:42:18

-Come on.

-I'll buy you a coffee later!

0:42:180:42:20

Come on. £400... £400, well done!

0:42:200:42:24

-He's doing his best, isn't he?

-He's sold it.

-At £400, 410 do I see?

0:42:240:42:28

At 400 and selling at £400. Anybody else?

0:42:280:42:30

Well done, Michael. £400!

0:42:300:42:33

Well done, John! After I'd just said that.

0:42:330:42:35

-Miracles can happen.

-John Kelly was right, he does know his diamonds.

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I'll trust him from now on forever.

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-And I can't wait to get on the phone and tell Claire as well.

-Superb.

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Well, that's it, another Flog It auction,

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we've come to the end of our day, and it was a tough day.

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James Lewis did exceptionally well on the rostrum.

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Some things didn't sell, but maybe just maybe they just weren't meant to.

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I hope you've enjoyed the show today, so until the next time, it's cheerio.

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