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This unusual sculpture tells us a great deal about the history of the town we're visiting today,

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which is Loughborough in the East Midlands.

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Welcome to Flog it!

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Sitting proud in the middle of Loughborough's market place is the sock man,

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a bronze sculpture of a figure admiring his sock.

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It's here to celebrate the knitting industry which has been key to the prosperity of the town.

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It's a wonderful sculpture and over the years

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it's raised quite a few eyebrows. That's maybe because,

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apart from the sycamore leaf here and the sock he's wearing,

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he hasn't got stitch on.

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Later on in the show, I'll be returning to my childhood

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when I explore the story of Ladybird Books,

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a company founded here in Loughborough.

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Since they were first printed in the 1960s they've sold well over 100 million copies worldwide,

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teaching generations of children to read.

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I don't know about you but I'm feeling rather nostalgic.

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But first it's down to business at today's venue, Loughborough Town Hall.

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Well this is where it all starts, a Flog It! valuation day.

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It looks like all of Loughborough has turned out to see us.

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Hundreds of people have lined the streets!

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These two guys have got their work cut out, Elizabeth Talbot and Adam Partridge, our experts today.

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The lucky ones will go through to auction, if you get a good valuation what you gonna do?

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Flog it!

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And it looks like Elizabeth has already found an item with an exotic past.

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Deirdre, in this wonderful mahogany box you've brought an absolute delight,

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which is a little concertina.

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I open up the box, we can see the lid there.

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I'll take it out in a moment, but tell me what you can about the concertina.

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How have you come by it and what's the story?

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Right, well my grandfather came from the south

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and we used to go and see his sister, who was my great Aunt.

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Her husband's brother lived with them.

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He was a bachelor.

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In his youth he'd gone to Australia,

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backwards and forwards mining opals.

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-Right.

-He bought this back and he said it was taken off a boat.

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It was one of the sailors. How he'd come by it, I don't know.

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I don't remember him ever playing it, I don't think anybody played it.

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It was just something he'd collected...

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And a story to tell behind it, one of his travels.

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Do you play? Have you learned to play it?

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Oh, no.

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Well it's a nice example of its type.

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Concertinas come in a variety of, pardon the pun, but scales of quality.

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What we have here is a very late 19th century concertina, which was English made.

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It is English, is it?

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It's English made and it's in a wonderful mahogany case,

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so it's in a lovely piece of furniture in the outset and I love the fact we have the key.

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-To be honest, I've kept this in the garage for years.

-Oh, my goodness!

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We looked everywhere for the key, when we took the concertina out the box, it was under the concertina.

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The great thing is you've got it and that adds a huge amount of charm and originality to the casing.

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Is this what sailors would play? Cos I can imagine sea shanties...

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Absolutely. It was a nice, compact little instrument

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which was quite a versatile in sound and it wasn't only confined to sailors, obviously,

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but it was perfect accompaniment to shanties and sing-songs and so on.

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It's actually encased in mahogany.

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Now, the finest and most expensive concertinas were made of more important woods than this.

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Rosewood examples are a next step up.

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-Some concertinas actually have fret carved or fret pierced metal ends.

-Yes.

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The more elaborate the ends, the more intrinsically valuable the ingredients

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-and the more valuable the instrument remains today.

-Yes.

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If we take it out of its case, thank you very much, we'll take that out there.

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You can see the wonderful bellows.

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These are paper bellows with leather lining.

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What's lovely about this is the bellows are in good order.

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Some of the expensive work of repairing, or the value, is held in the bellows.

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The fact that they're in such good order is a bonus there.

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I'm not a player but we'll just see if it does make as much sound as good quality bellows suggest it should.

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Ooh, yes.

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It's quite loud isn't it, really?

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I can do a siren. There we go.

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We've got high notes and low notes, so that's good. It's very playable.

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This really is a collector's piece.

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I think a collector would delight in owning this.

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I'm very enthusiastic about it.

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I think it's a lovely example of its type.

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D'you have any idea of value? Have you brought it with expectations?

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No, I'm surprised I haven't thrown it out, to be honest!

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-Well I think, in the current market, if it had a pre-auction estimate of, say, 180 to £250...

-My goodness.

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I don't think anybody'd balk at that. I think that would be...

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I just did!

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I'm pleased to have made your day.

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-That's good if you're pleased with that.

-I am, yes.

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-But I do think it's important we put a reserve on it so that you're comfortable...

-OK.

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That on the day it'll be looked after.

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If I say £150 firm I'm sure the auctioneer will promote it well.

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It'll be picked up through the cataloguing and so on.

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-We will see what we will see.

-We will.

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As the sailor said!

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As the sailor said, yeah!

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-Marion?

-Yes, me.

-Daughter Linda?

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-Yes.

-Welcome to Flog It!

-Thank you very much.

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Very nice to see you here and to see such a recognisable statue.

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It's a very famous image.

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-Yes, it is.

-You know who it is?

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Yes, but I've forgotten now you've asked me that!

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The Greeks called him Hermes, the Romans called him Mercury.

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Now, first of all, where did you get it from?

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It goes back to my husband's father.

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He was a chauffeur for Oswald D'Andrea, the Shakespearean actor.

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-Right.

-It was given to him as a gift for so many year's service.

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Oh, really? And then it got passed to you as things do?

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Yes. Come down the line.

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-It's a copy of a very famous bronze...

-Of course.

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By a sculptor called Giambologne,

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who was a Flemish/Italian sculptor in the 16th century.

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-As long ago as that?

-This dates from the end of the 19th century.

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A number of these are made often in Italy at the end of the 19th century as decorative furnishings.

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They often came as a pair.

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I think his companion was the goddess Fortuna.

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Yes. Sadly we haven't got her.

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Well, you see more of Fortuna than you see of the Hermes or Mercury.

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Now you brought it in, the show's called Flog It!,

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so I assume you want to...?

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-Flog it, yes.

-I know more about Flog It! than you do!

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-Do you? Are you a big fan?

-Yes.

-Yes.

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-Who's your favourite expert then?

-You are.

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-Very good!

-Well, I like all of you.

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Marrion, that was a diplomatic answer but I preferred Linda's answer.

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Oh, I know that.

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Now, why d'you want to sell it, first of all?

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Like me, the house is getting older.

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-It wants rewiring so I'm going to put whatever I get towards rewiring the house.

-OK, do you like it?

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-Yeah, I love it, yes.

-What about you, Linda?

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-We both like it, yes.

-She doesn't live in my house.

-No.

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We all like it. There's three girls and we all like it,

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we're all fighting over it so we said the best thing

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was for it to be sold so Mum could have the money for it.

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-So you've been through that whole process of what to do with it?

-There's no problem, really.

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-Yes.

-What better way than getting on your favourite TV show to do it!

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-Yes, that's right.

-Now, what about value?

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I've no idea. No idea at all.

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What was the minimum you'd like for it?

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-She'd like at least £100 for it. Right. That would help, yes.

-Rewiring's expensive.

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I think we can do that. How does 300 to £500 sound?

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-Ooh.

-Wow! Wow!

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I think that's fairly achievable.

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You're the best presenter on the show!

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-You took your time, but you got there in the end.

-Well, I got there!

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-I'd estimate 300 to £500.

-Wonderful.

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I'd hope that it would make £500.

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-But in order to protect it, I suggest we put 300 on it.

-Yes.

-Fixed.

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No discretion, not a penny less.

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-Thank you very much.

-Lovely.

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-You've made my day.

-Thank you.

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Let's hope it comes to fruition at the auction and you'll hopefully have £500 or so to spend

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-to improve the quality of your life with your wiring and everything.

-Yes.

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-That would be wonderful.

-Keep my lights shining!

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-Thank you very much for coming.

-Thank you so much.

-It's been a pleasure meeting you.

-Thank you.

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Katherine, thank you for bringing in this lovely book,

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The Magic Of A Line. It's the autobiography of Laura Knight.

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What story do you have behind it?

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Well, I was sent it as a Christmas present in 1965.

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Right.

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-My uncle was the bursar at the Royal Academy and Laura Knight was the Royal Academician.

-Yes.

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I suppose she was promoting her book at the Royal Academy.

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He asked her to sign it for me.

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-Right.

-She said, well I'll draw a picture for her as well.

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-How wonderful.

-I was actually living in India at the time, so it was sent to me in India as well.

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-It's very exciting.

-It's travelled a long way and you obviously weren't expecting such a present?

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Not at all, no. I'm always pleased to get books as a present

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but when I opened it and saw that it was signed and the picture, that made it really special.

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Interestingly enough, the book itself, which is a first edition, 1965,

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-can actually still be bought on eBay even for 45.

-Really? Gosh.

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-So the book itself is really modest and straight forward.

-Yes.

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As you point out, the exciting, exciting piece is this frontispiece which is just lovely.

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Now, it's personalised to Katherine.

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This wonderful clown, which Dame Laura Knight was very well-known for doing.

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-Yes.

-Of course her designs of clowns went on to everything, including ceramics.

-Oh, right.

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Her designs were seen in art form, picture form,

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but also commandeered for some of the mid-20th century factories that produced quirky ceramics of the time.

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You've kept it well. It's obviously been happy in its travels,

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on its bookshelf, and that's important.

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So, the paper is in good condition, the ink hasn't run

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and it's not been manhandled or torn or anything so that's fantastic.

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Laura, Dame Laura Knight's art work is now highly sought after which can make vast sums of money.

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-Yes.

-Have you any idea what you think that that might, what the value might be added to in terms of...?

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-Not at all, no.

-I think it would certainly fetched 300 to £500.

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-Gosh.

-With a fixed reserve of £300 to protect it...

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-Yes, that's fine.

-It'll be an exciting day on the day it auctions to see exactly how it's responded to.

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I might need to apologise to my Uncle.

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You can say that he was a canny man.

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-He was, yes.

-Thank you for bringing it in.

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-That's wonderful.

-Thank you very much.

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-It's a great honour for me to see it because it's quite a rarity.

-Thank you very much.

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Kayleigh, this is a lovely little nest of drawers.

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What are you doing with this?

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I brought it today to get a valuation.

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-You're not selling it then?

-No, probably not selling it.

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Whose is it? How did you inherit this?

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-I bought it quite recently but it was from the money for a present for my friend here.

-Right, OK.

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So was it your birthday then?

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-No, for Christmas.

-For Christmas. Right.

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It's a classic piece of early Edwardian, late Victorian.

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It was obviously for business cards, a filing system, basically. It's built of oak.

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It's nicely constructed.

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It's got through dovetails coming from the edge so you can see its construction.

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-It's certainly going to last another couple of hundred years, put it that way.

-Yeah, hopefully.

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-How much did you pay for it?

-£20.

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-Well, I think you got a bargain.

-You think so?

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I think you got a good bargain because, hopefully in another 20 years time,

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-this is going to be worth at least £150.

-Oh, excellent.

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I'd say something like this, made of solid oak like that, has got to be worth £80 today of anybody's money.

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-That's brilliant.

-OK? What are you going to do with this?

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Put it in my room and put some more CDs in it, I think.

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That's a great way of recycling a piece of Edwardian furniture, isn't it?

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-Yes. Thank you.

-It's a CD drawer now, how wonderful!

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Well done. Well, our experts have been working flat out.

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We found our quota to take off for our first visit to today's auction room.

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So while we make our way over there,

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we're gonna leave you with a run-down of all the items that are going to go under the hammer.

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Deidre's concertina has plenty of sea shanties left in it

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and Elizabeth thinks it'll sail away at auction for 180 - £250.

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I don't think anybody would balk at that.

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I just did!

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Flog It! fan, Marian, finally made up her mind about Adam

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when he valued the statue of Hermes at 300 to £500.

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Wow!

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You're the best presenter on the show!

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You took your time!

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And with its personal dedication by Dame Laura Knight,

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Katherine's book is a rare find.

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Now, will we hold the front page for this one?

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This is where we put all our expert's valuations to the test,

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courtesy of Gilding's auction rooms in Market Harborough.

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As you can see it's packed, isn't it?

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I hope they're here to bid on all our lots.

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Don't go away, we're gonna find out.

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Wielding the gavel this morning is auctioneer Mark Gilding.

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First up is the statue of Hermes.

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Its bronze, it's beautiful and we've got £300 to £500 on this.

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-Marion, it's gorgeous.

-Yes.

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I know is is a bit of a family affair, because Linda's here, your daughter.

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-Yes.

-You've got two other daughters.

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-Yes.

-The reason we're selling this is because you all love the statue,

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but how can three people own this, Adam?

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Can't split a bronze, can you?

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No. So what do you do? You put it into auction.

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This is our lot. Fingers crossed, here we go.

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80 is a bronze, which is after Bologna, Flying Mercury.

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Lot number 80, lots of bids here,

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-250, 60, 70, 80, 90, £310.

-Right, we're there.

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-We're in.

-310 bid here, at 310, are you all out in the room at 310?

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I'll take 20 if you like.

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At £310, 310, with me, you're all out,

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the internet is out at 310 and selling at 310.

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Yes, £310, we just got that one away and made the lower end.

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-I'm happy about that.

-You're happy about that.

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-Yeah, brilliant.

-That's rewiring, isn't it.

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It's been worth it to get your autograph.

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26.

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Next up, we've got that wonderful autobiography.

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It's a first edition by Dame Laura Knight and it belongs to Katherine.

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It's signed to you as well.

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What a privilege. She's one of my favourite artists.

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Now, she specialises in sort of dancing, clowns, those kinds of things.

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-We've got a clown image in there.

-We have, yes.

-It could fetch top money.

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That's what we're here for, that's what auctions are all about. Here we go, we're gonna find out.

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220, Laura Knight, The Magic Of A Line

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with inscription and a sketch of a clown.

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Bidding starts, £190.

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190 bid here, 190, 200, 210,

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220, 230,

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230, I'll take 40 if you like,

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it's with me at 230, watching it carefully.

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230, here with me at 230 and away now at £230.

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-Oh, it didn't.

-I'm disappointed with that.

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Maybe it's not meant to go.

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I did say to my son, "Perhaps I should have let you have it."

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Yeah, I think what does devalue it is the fact that it's got your name, it's to Katherine.

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-That's right.

-If it was just signed by her and dated with that little clown in the edge of the sketch,

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yes, we'd have got it.

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My sister has one with a better sketch.

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Oh, does she?

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A clown on horseback.

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I wish I'd got one.

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Next up, something for all you music lovers.

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It's a concertina and it belongs to Deidre. So why are you selling it?

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Well, I'm clearing my house out and having alterations done,

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trying to get low-maintenance, as everybody is,

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it's been in the garage for years, unfortunately it's such a shame,

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-just to send it...

-Lots of DIY?

-Not myself, no. No.

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-I'm allergic to that as well.

-I'm not that talented!

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It does haemorrhage money, doesn't it?

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Somebody said DIY stood for do it for years if you do it yourself!

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I like that. We're going to do a bit of DIY right now because we are just about to flog, hopefully,

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fingers crossed, this wonderful little squeeze box. Here we go.

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Lot number 70, Lachenal & Co concertina, mahogany frame,

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numbered and within a mahogany carrying case.

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A nice concertina this and reflected in commission bids with me here.

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-Let's hope we hit the right note.

-Oh, yes.

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Reflected in commission bids with me here,

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I have to start bidding at £300.

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-How much?!

-300.

-Oh, my God!

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I'll take 25.

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300, I'm bid at 300.

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You're out, commissions at 300, will sell here at £300.

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Selling away now at £300.

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Well, that'll help towards the home improvements.

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Yes, it will, it certainly will. Thank you very much.

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That's a great start and we'll be back later when an unloved statue causes a real stir in the saleroom.

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There's been an incredible amount of interest on the internet from around the world.

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-So this could go overseas?

-I'm fairly sure it will end up overseas.

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That's incredible, isn't it?

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Now, are you sitting comfortably? Because

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I'm going to tell you the story of some remarkable children's books.

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Well, you've just caught me genning up on one of my favourite subjects, the history of television.

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Now, I know this is a little out of date but actually what I've got here is an iconic guide.

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You see for nearly 95 years Ladybird books have been opening up

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our reading horizons with imaginative storytelling.

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Wonderful illustrations.

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But best of all, accessible knowledge.

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You can learn so much from one of these little books,

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all manner of subjects from the history of television to exploring space.

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And, as the home town of Ladybird,

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it's no wonder the people of Loughborough hold these little books really close to their hearts.

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The story of Ladybird began in 1873, when a businessman and printer called Henry Wills

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bought the Angel Press in Loughborough's market place.

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The company established itself by printing a range of commercial material.

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When the war threatened in 1914, the firm,

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now operating as Wills and Hepworth, decided to try their hand at printing children's books.

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Today, Loughborough's Charnwood Museum is the home of the Ladybird archive.

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I have been given special permission to go behind the scenes and take a good look around.

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This is what I'm after, one of the first Ladybird books published by Wills and Hepworth.

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It's titled Billy And The Treasure.

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If I open this very carefully,

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on the inside sleeve you can see it says there Ladybird Series.

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This is the forerunner to the Ladybird symbol.

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Hepworth was a keen gardener and rose grower.

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With this in mind, his wife suggested the name.

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This book dates to the 1920s.

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It's quite large, it's more like a children's annual.

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The paper is very thick and the illustrations are very basic, as you can see.

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But in its day, this book wasn't basic.

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It was so well received.

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I can see now, I can understand how the Ladybird books that I grew up with have evolved from this.

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It was in 1940 that the Ladybird pocket book was born.

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The first series featured animal stories like Downy Duckling.

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This time round, the printing was higher quality, with full-colour illustrations.

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The pocket book was perfect for tiny, small hands to hold.

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This one is called Bunnikin's Picnic Party.

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If I open it up inside and show you the illustrations,

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now, they're perfectly clear and vibrant.

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Look at that, isn't that lovely?

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Each little book was printed from one large sheet of paper, which I can show you here.

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It's also printed on both sides.

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It meant that a quality book could be printed relatively cheaply.

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In the decades that followed, that formula was put to good use in many different ways.

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After the war, the pocketbook format was used for a pioneering series of education books.

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Factual titles, like the Uncle Mac books and, later,

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the What To Look For books were a great success with young readers.

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It was the 1960s that proved to be the defining era of the pocket book.

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This decade saw the launch of the Key Words reading scheme, featuring Peter and Jane.

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Based on educational research which showed that just 12 words make up a quarter of our speech,

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the Peter and Jane stories used those key words and phrases to help children learn to read.

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That, coupled with these wonderful

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colour illustrations, really did bring these stories to life.

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Since they were first printed in the 1960s,

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they've sold well over 100 million copies worldwide,

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teaching generations of children to read.

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I don't know about you, but I'm feeling rather nostalgic.

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Key to the success of Peter and Jane, and so many of the pocket books,

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was the expertise of the authors and the illustrators who created them.

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Kathie Layfield was one of those talented artists.

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She's come in to the museum to talk to me about her work.

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Kathie, it's great to meet you.

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I can see why you love painting in vibrant colours, just by the way you're dressed.

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-You look fabulous!

-Thank you.

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Were you always an illustrator? And how did you get your big break?

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I trained actually in textile design at Loughborough College of Art,

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and I went in as an amateur and joined Leicester Drama Society.

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I got into designing costumes, although I can't sew for toffee.

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I had a little exhibition of my work.

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I went into the bar one day and a guy came up to me and said,

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"I can see you draw figures, how do you feel about illustrating books?"

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I said, "Yeah, lovely", and it turned out he worked for Ladybird.

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He just said, "Bring in a portfolio,"

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-and I did and got my break.

-Were they a good company to work for?

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They were lovely, they were really good to work for. It was a great company.

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-Good times?

-I was very happy, yeah.

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In those days, in the 70s, it was quite a small company.

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They had a huge output of course.

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And I said, it's a small company with a big heart.

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-That's nice.

-That's how it was.

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How many books did you work on and illustrate?

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I think it was about 28.

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That's quite a lot, isn't it?

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That's quite prolific. Well, we haven't got all 28 here.

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We've got a selection, we've got four and some illustrations.

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Can we talk about a couple of them? Yes, certainly.

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Have you particular favourite that you worked on?

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I loved most of them, but I particularly liked Puss In Boots.

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That illustration over there, because I love cats.

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Also, because I had freedom to choose something which I could set in costume.

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I love the history of costume, so I decided I was going to do it in the period of Louis XIV.

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And you set yourself these difficult tasks, because you had to be very careful in Ladybird books

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that you didn't make any mistakes, historically.

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-Because it's a reference book as well.

-Exactly.

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If you did, you got people writing in, particularly children.

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-They'd write in and say, "You got that wrong."

-Did you get anything wrong?

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Yes! I got told off. Unfortunately, it was in print and there was nothing they could do about it.

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I'd a scene in one of my books were there were builders in the background

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and they were putting in a window before they'd built the walls, and I was told off by the editors.

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They said, "It's too late to change it now, but you must be careful about your details!"

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That's where the challenge is. But you've such a wonderful eye, it's incredible.

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Just looking at some of these images, there's a lot to see.

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I always like to put something in that's a distraction, something funny. I remember when I was a child,

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loving in comics where there would be something else going on

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in the background, some little tiny thing happening.

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-I try to do that in my books.

-Cos kids find that.

-That's right, yeah.

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I was looking at this, and you just see, although you're looking

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at the main picture with all of the fisher men and the octopus,

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you kind of see the little fishes' mouths looking up like that.

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Also in that one, I did a recurrent thing were one of the sailors starts

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getting a green face and in about three pictures, he's gradually being more sick.

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He's sick over the side. It's nothing at to do with the text, I just put that in as a bit of a joke.

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Did the publishers mind that?

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No, they love it because that's what children like. As you say, children pick it out.

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I do like to have funny things going on in the background.

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Like in this one, were I've got the kitten playing with the tassel.

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Later on in the book, there's a picture I've done with the cat pulling the bandage.

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You see, he's got gout, and I've got the kitten playing with the bandage.

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It's those sort of things I like putting in, little secret things.

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What do you think is the enduring appeal of the Ladybird books?

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Well, they were accessible, weren't they?

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-They're tiny...

-Good value.

-Good value, absolutely.

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I was looking at the prices on the back of these books

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and I was thinking, this Oliver Octopus was going for £1.

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I mean, where can you buy a book for £1 nowadays?

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I can even remember my own childhood, and that's going back some time,

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but I remember my mother buying me Ladybird books.

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So can I, my mother did.

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It brings back wonderful memories, it really does.

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Kathie, thank you so much for bringing these illustrations in.

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I can't wait to start reading them again with my little son, when he's able to read.

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-Thank you so much, it's been a pleasure.

-Thank you.

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We're now back at Loughborough's town hall,

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where Adam is facing an age-old problem.

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Well, Clodagh, Julie, are you related?

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-Yes.

-No.

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THEY LAUGH Good start!

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Sisters? Only joking!

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-Mother and daughter.

-So, you've brought in these very attractive vases here by James Macintyre.

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Designed by a famous man, William Moorcroft. Whose are they?

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-Mine.

-You're here for moral support?

-Yes.

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-And how long have you had them?

-About 25 years.

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-How did you come to own them in the first place?

-I think they came from Beaumanor Hall.

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-I think they did, actually.

-They used to hold a lot of antiques fairs at that time.

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Do you like them still?

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Yes.

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-How about you?

-No.

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You like them, you don't like them. It makes me wonder why you're selling them, Clodagh?

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Well, I've got so much stuff and I just need to get shot of some things.

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-So, they aren't going to leave an empty patch on your mantelpiece?

-No, no.

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So, you presumably know a little bit about them anyway.

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For auction purposes, I'm going to treat him as two separate lots.

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Our job is to get you the best result we can.

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I think offering them as a group at three won't be as good as splitting

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them into a clear pair and a separate vase.

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We'll treat the pair first.

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These are all from the Aurelian Ware range,

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which was designed by William Moorcroft for Macintyre and Co.

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It was registered in 1897 to 1898.

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So they're 110 years old now.

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But it's very still fresh and bright and in pretty good condition.

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This pair I'd estimate at 300 to £500.

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And a reserve of £300 absolutely fixed, with no leeway at all.

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-They've got to make 300 plus.

-We'd expect them to.

-Otherwise, they aren't sold.

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Don't forget, it's the auctioneer's job to get as much as he can, cos that's how he earns his money.

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-That's right.

-And then you've got this separate one, here,

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which is a very nice shape, isn't it? Very attractive shape.

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A vase with a cover. Unnecessary, really, to have the cover, but it's nice that you've still got it.

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A lot of people would bring that in and never realise it had a cover,

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cos there's no sign of it having a cover. So, that really helps it.

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Again, you'd hope to get 250, 300 after everyone has had a go at it.

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To sum up, we've got 200 to 300 there, 300 to 500 there.

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If they both make the top of the estimate, that's 800 quid.

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That's a real good result that would be, and the bottom end, £500. I'm looking forward to the auction.

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Hopefully, they're going to do pretty well and we'll see you there.

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Yes, that's fine.

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I was quite attracted by what you've brought, Pamela. Can you tell me about it?

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Yes. I had a friend and I used to visit her an awful lot towards the end.

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When she passed away, her son said, "Is there anything in the house you'd like, Pamela?"

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And I said, "I have always liked this", and it always sat on the desk.

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-He said, "Well, you have it, and thank you for everything you've done".

-That's nice.

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I've lots of other things that Barbara gave me,

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so I think it's time it went to someone who would really enjoy it.

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-It's very pretty.

-It is very pretty.

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Do you know what it is? When you admired it,

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-did you know we were looking at?

-No, I didn't. I'd no idea what it was.

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It's actually called a chocolate cup.

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Which really is a term which relates to a cup with a lid.

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In this case, it has a wonderful saucer with a really deep rim,

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which is an anti-trembling device, so it doesn't slip off the saucer and you don't lose your chocolate.

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It's from the Vienna School of factories, and it will date

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from the very late 19th, possibly early twentieth-century.

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Stylistically, it looks as though it's almost 100 years earlier than that still.

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It's very much in the Empire style.

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Given that it's reached its century, it's actually in very good condition.

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That, to a collector, is a bonus.

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If we look on the front, the very colourful panel on the front, hand-painted with the interior scene.

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It's not the finest quality painting, but it's very good.

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So, all in all, it's very appealing.

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-Have you ever seen it in terms of commercial value?

-No, never.

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-Would you like to?

-It would be nice to know.

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The value I'd suspect would be realistically achievable is about 80 to £120 at auction.

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It might do up to about 150, but I think that would be its bracket.

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I'd have thought 80 to 120, with an £80 reserve on would be fair and realistic.

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-With that, would you reinvest to remember your friend by?

-I would. My husband and I love auctions.

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-Oh, you do?

-We'd be off to an auction to buy something else.

-You're a hardened auction goer.

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Do you collect anything in particular,

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-or whatever takes your fancy?

-Just what every takes our fancy.

-OK, happy hunting then.

-Thank you.

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-Good morning.

-Good morning.

-Welcome to Flog It!.

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Thank you. What a lovely smile! You seem very cheerful.

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I remember seeing that smile in the queue this morning,

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when I was introduced to you as "Mum". That's right.

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-You had quite a few family with you, didn't you?

-Yes.

-Who was with you?

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-Three daughters and my grandson.

-I remember there being a lot of them!

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What is your name, do you mind?

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-It's Evelyn.

-Evelyn, am I all right to call you that?

-Fine!

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-I remember seeing this in the queue. It was on a big trolley, wasn't it?

-That's right.

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And I made a silly joke of admiring the trolley instead of the figure.

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-Because it's quite...striking, would be a polite way of putting it.

-Yes.

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What can you tell me about it? Where did you get it from?

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My husband bought it. It was supposed to be a house-warming present, when we moved house.

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-So, he came home with this and said "Evelyn, here we are, here is your house-warming present."

-More or less.

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And what was your reaction?

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"What the hell have you bought that for?!"

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HE LAUGHS

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So, you weren't impressed.

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I was quite polite, but...

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No, I wasn't impressed at all.

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-I believe there you have a name for this chap.

-Yes, Fred.

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Fred. And what about the lady?

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Oh, I've never named her. You've never named the lady. Poor thing!

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We just assumed she was from a harem.

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Fred and Frieda, perhaps?

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-That sounds all right.

-That would be appropriate, wouldn't it?

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-I don't suppose you'll ever know what he paid for it?

-No, no.

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-Hopefully it wasn't too much.

-No, that's what I think!

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Well, we've got some markings on here, which is "Koenig and Lengsfeld", from Germany.

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They made things at the turn of the century,

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1900s to 1920s, that sort of period.

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They did this type of composition figure in plaster and in terracotta.

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Very decorative. It's one of those things that you either love or hate.

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-There's no middle ground with that.

-No.

-I'm not a fan myself,

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but some people out there will love that, like your husband did.

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-Yes, but my daughters don't want it.

-None of them?

-No.

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-My thoughts are to put an estimate of 100 to £200 on it.

-That sounds all right.

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If it's all right with you, I'd say put 75 as a bottom line

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and hopefully it'll make up to £200. You never know.

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Thank you very much for bringing Fred in, and his female companion.

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I look forward to seeing it in the auction.

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-And fingers crossed for a good result.

-Thank you.

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Some interesting and unusual items going to auction, so let's take another look.

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Adam thought Clodagh's Moorcroft vases were in good condition,

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but advised her to sell them as two lots.

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I think offering them as a group of three won't be as good

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as splitting them into a clear pair and a separate vase.

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Pamela and her husband love going to auctions,

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and she's planning a spending spree if her chocolate cup makes 80 to £120.

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And Evelyn's striking statue was a gift from her husband, but she's never really liked it.

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So, he came home with this and he said, "Evelyn, here we are, here is a house-warming present."

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-And what was your reaction?

-What the hell have you bought that for?

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THEY LAUGH

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Over at the sale room, it's Mark Gilding's turn to tell us what he makes of the statue.

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Evelyn's statue, two figures here, and we've got a valuation of £100 to £200.

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Evelyn can't wait to sell this.

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-She's had it 33 years. All of the money is going towards a holiday to Tenerife.

-Right.

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And it's just not her cup of tea. It's kind of not mine. It wouldn't suit my house.

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It is very unusual, not the kind of thing you'd see every day here in Market Harborough.

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But I think it's just right for the decorator's market. It's nice quality.

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Will we get the £100 to £200 for it?

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-We should, shouldn't we?

-I think we'd easily get £100.

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Hopefully, we'll get towards £400 or £500.

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-There has been incredible interest.

-That much! Let me have a closer look.

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-There's lots of interest on the internet, from around the world.

-So, this could go overseas?

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I'm fairly sure it will end up overseas.

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That's incredible, isn't it? 400 to 500, wow!

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I think we'll keep our eye on this, don't you?

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Before we put the statue up for sale,

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let's see how Clodagh's two lots of Moorcroft vases do in the auction.

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Tell me a little bit about the vases. Why you want to sell them?

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I thought I'd get my garden a makeover.

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-It's at bit, you know, needs a facelift.

-Really?

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So, we're going to do a bit of landscaping and sorting out.

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Pruning and strimming.

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Will we get the top end?

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-We're looking at 300 to 500.

-I think it's accurate for Aurelian Ware. End of the 19th century,

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Macintyre and Co, it's a stable, steady seller.

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It never goes mad. I'd say, it's about right this time.

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-Book price.

-Touch something...

-Touch some wood!

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Good luck, good luck. Here we go.

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One pair of Moorcroft Macintyre octagonal vases,

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I'm bid 190, 190 bid here. 190.

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200, 210, 220, 230.

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230, bid, at 240. 250,

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260, 270, 280, 290, 300.

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Selling away at £300.

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£300. And our second lot now,

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fingers crossed we get 200 to £300.

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Another bit of Moorcroft here, Macintyre vase and cover.

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I'm bid £110 on this, at 110, I'm in at 110.

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120, 130, 140, 150, 160,

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170, 180, 190,

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£200. I'm out.

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-It's done it.

-£200, right at the back.

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It will sell, at 200,

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selling in the room then at £200.

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Yes, £200! Well, let's see, bedding plants,

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-shrubs...

-Yes. Probably a tree.

-That's good.

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-Fruit trees, blossoms.

-Yes. Cherry or something.

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A cherry tree would be nice, wouldn't it? Or plums, I like plums.

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You'll like this. Next up, a lovely classical scene.

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It's a chocolate cup, saucer and stand. It belongs to Pamela.

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Why are you selling this?

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-I'm very fond of it but I'd hate it to break.

-Right.

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We're moving house soon, and I think it's so pretty, I don't want to break it.

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We've £80 to £120 on this.

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Let's hope we can do a little bit more, Elizabeth. It's got the look?

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I like the colour. The colour is very unusual and it's very pretty.

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-It has the lid and a saucer with it, it's nice.

-It's complete, isn't it?

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And very good condition. That's what the collectors like. Let's hope this lot's here, right now.

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-Here we go, it's going under the hammer. Good luck.

-Thank you.

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Lot number 20 is a Vienna porcelain chocolate cup, saucer, and stand.

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Fantastically decorated with a panel of classical scene.

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I have to start the bidding at £100.

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100 I'm bid, with me at £100.

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Straight in!

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130, 140...

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140 still with me. 150, 160, new bidding,

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-170, 180. 190. 200.

-That's more like it!

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Are you all out in the room at 200? 210 on the telephone, and I'm out.

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210, 220, 230...

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They love it.

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..240, 250...

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Oh, my goodness!

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250, telephone 1. 250, all out in the room at 250 and selling?

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-Yes!

-Wonderful!

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Pamela, that's fantastic.

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I'm very pleased.

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-Very, very pleased.

-I guess the money is gonna come in handy with the house moving.

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-Very, yes. It'll be wonderful.

-Redecorating.

-I never expected that!

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Going under the hammer now is Evelyn's statue.

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It's a composition of two figures, and the figures we've got on this

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are £100 to £200, put on by our expert, Adam, here.

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We know we need the money, don't you, to go to Tenerife, that's right isn't it?

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Who are you going with?

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Two of my daughters. And a granddaughter.

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Oh, bless! A whole family holiday.

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I know Evelyn can't wait to see the back of this, can you?

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You told Adam you didn't like it. You've has it 33-odd years.

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-Never liked it.

-The good news is, is definitely going, that's for sure.

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I know we put £100 to £200 on this, and I quite agree with you.

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I asked the auctioneer what he thinks it might make.

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It's what he thinks it might make - he said 400 to £500!

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-So in that case, you're going.

-Does he have some prior information, or is that his instincts?

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-I don't know.

-I hope so.

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Fingers crossed he's got a few bids on the book. Let's find out.

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We can't discuss this any more, it really is up to the bidders. Here we go.

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Lot Number 10 is a painted plaster and spelter figure.

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Fantastic lot this one, lots of interest on the bidding here.

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Bids start at 80, 90, 100, 120,

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140, 160 with me. 160, 180,

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200, 220, 240,

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240 bid with me. At 240?

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Are you all out at 240?

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I think you're going to split the difference there.

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280, I'm in at 280. 300,

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-320? 320 here? 320, 340...

-There's somebody on the phone.

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360 here with me, at 360, I'll take 80 if you like?

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-380, 400?

-There's another phone bid!

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-400 with me, 420?

-Two people on the phone.

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All commissions out, that's 420.

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Telephone is in at 420, selling away at £420.

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-£420!

-What do you reckon?

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-Say bye to Fred?

-Definitely!

-It's a good moment all round, really.

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-Evelyn is glad to see the back of that but also, you're off to Tenerife.

-Definitely.

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That's it. It's all over for our owners.

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The auction's still going on.

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We've had a brilliant day here in Market Harborough.

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The highlight for me had to be the big smile on Evelyn's face as we got £424 for her statue.

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I think that's a great result. A lot more than we anticipated.

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Join me again for many more surprises.

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For now, from Market Harborough, cheerio.

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