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Just look at this. We all laugh at boys and their toys, don't we?

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But this is one man's lifelong passion for collecting model railways

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and it's all here in his backyard, which measures 30 feet by 18 feet.

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More of that later on in the show, but right now it's full steam ahead

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to the Isle of Wight to meet more collectors who are passionate and want to Flog It!

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The Isle of Wight is a haven for people who are mad about boats.

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It's known for its stunning coastline.

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The Needles, its most famous landmark,

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juts dramatically from the sea and the lighthouse has been warning captains of their danger since 1859.

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And it's to Cowes that we sail today, where the crowds are starting to build.

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Surveying the line for those hidden treasures today, our experts Kate Bateman and Will Axon.

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A cup of tea and a biscuit.

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But right now it's time to get the doors of the Cowes Yacht Haven

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well and truly open.

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-Ready to go inside?

-Yes!

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Yes! Come on, then!

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Whilst the crowd settle, here's a sneak preview of what's coming up later in the show.

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Why do you want to sell this?

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-Well, I lost my teeth last New Year...

-Oh, yes!

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And I've got to get some new ones.

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And to start us off, Kate has found a mysterious medal from a fashion giant at her table.

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So, Lindsey, you've brought this medal along, what do you know about it?

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Unfortunately not a lot.

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It was given to me by my father in the early '80s.

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I believe the recipient was known to him.

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He was an auctioneer and valuer and maybe he was involved in her estate when she died.

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-So this is this Mrs Alison Settle?

-Alison Settle, yes.

-Right.

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And she was an editor of Vogue in the 1920s...

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-Excellent.

-..and obviously was well thought of by Christian Dior.

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I think it was a thank you for her interest in Christian Dior fashion and presumably...

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Her patronage! Maybe she dressed head to toe in Dior.

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-Absolutely, yes.

-And what we've got is a little silver medallion here.

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I'll just take it out and have a look.

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It's got a picture of Christian Dior on the...

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On the back here and, here we go, on the front

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-we've got the dates, so 1947 to 1967, obviously the 20th anniversary of the House Of Christian Dior.

-Yes.

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What's lovely is that you've got this letter on it. It's brilliant.

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-Yes.

-We talk about provenance and needing the background information about a piece.

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Yes, well, I didn't find it...

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until I had the medal in my possession for a couple of years.

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-I didn't realise it was tucked underneath...

-It was hidden behind the thing? Ah.

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-It was folded up and hidden behind.

-A good find!

-Yes.

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I love the fact that it says "In spite of the overwhelming week of collections

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"you find some time to write to me about them", so obviously high fashion and drama going on!

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-Absolutely.

-It's an unusual thing.

-It is.

-I haven't sold anything like it and

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I doubt we'll find anything really close to it online and selling, but it's quite hard to price.

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Obviously it means something to you personally.

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It does, but I've had it for 25 years and I've shown it to friends of mine

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who are interested in fashion and I think that it's probably time to move it on.

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I'm sure somebody would love to have it.

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I think somebody with a fashion background or anything like that.

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Even a collector or a museum would love to have it, maybe even Dior, themselves, back again.

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-Yes, you never know.

-Any idea what price you're hoping to get?

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I don't think it's worth a great deal because it's the interest rather than the value.

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-Absolutely.

-I suppose...

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-£30 or... I'm really more interested that it should go for its interest's sake...

-To a good home.

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..rather than for the value.

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So maybe put it around the £50 mark.

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-Yeah.

-Sort of estimate maybe 40 to 60.

-That would be fine.

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Put a reserve of, say, £30...

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-Yes.

-You don't want to give it away.

-No.

-You'd be gutted to sell it for a tenner.

-That would be sad.

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-So, OK, and we'll do that, and a reserve of 30.

-I'm very happy with that.

-Good.

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-OK.

-I'll see you at the auction.

-I shall be there.

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-Alex.

-Yes.

-Hello there.

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-Hello.

-I'm Will. Thank you for coming along today and bringing on a small selection of studio pottery.

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-That's right.

-What can you tell me about it? Do you collect it?

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We do, we collect all sorts of things like this and I particularly like all this stuff here.

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-So you're aware of the marks to the base of most of these?

-I think so.

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If I turn this one up first, we've got the L impressed mark there,

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so that's from the Leach family, headed up by Bernard Leach, probably the most famous studio potter...

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-Yes, yes.

-..from England and the British Isles.

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When you think of the Leach factory you think of two places, don't you?

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-You think of St Ives...

-Yes.

-..where the factory was based and set up.

-Yes.

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-And you also think of Japan...

-That's true, yes.

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-..which is where Bernard Leach, who was born in Hong Kong...

-Oh, was he?

-He was born in Hong Kong.

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-Shortly after his birth he was taken to Japan...

-Yes.

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And that's where he had this great relationship with Shoji Hamada, who was a Japanese potter.

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-Right, I've heard of him.

-And it's from him that he learned all these techniques

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of the Japanese art pottery, the slab techniques, the glazes, the shapes.

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You say you've bought them, you've collected them. Have you been buying them from shops or auctions

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or just where you see them?

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I got this in a charity shop.

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-OK.

-And I only paid 40p for it.

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-Well done! Good. Because you spotted the mark?

-I did see the mark but I...

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First of all I saw the shape of it and I really liked it, and then I thought, I'll have a quick look

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and see what it was and then I just couldn't believe it, so I bought it.

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You've done well. We love to hear stories like that on Flog It!

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-So that's your cheapest buy.

-Yes, that's right.

-Which one's your most expensive?

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-I can't remember. I think they were all round about £30, £40...

-OK.

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-The rest of them anyway.

-OK, which is a sort of retail figure, so...

-Yeah.

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If we translate that to the saleroom,

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-you're probably looking at still that sort of figure each.

-OK.

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-It's unfortunate that none of them are by Bernard himself. You'd be putting a nought on the end.

-Sorry!

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-Yes, he is, shall we say, the granddaddy of British studio pottery.

-Yeah.

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I would say if we could think of £30 to £40 each again, we're looking at around that £150 mark...

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-Yes.

-..for the group.

-Yes.

-Would you be happy at that sort of figure?

-I would.

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-Yeah?

-I would, yes.

-What about reserve? Are we going to put a reserve on them

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or are you going to let them make what they make? I'm happy to reserve them at... Shall we put 100 on them?

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-Say that, yes.

-As a reserve.

-OK, that would be lovely.

-Fixed reserve of £100 to give us a bit of...

-Leeway.

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Leeway, exactly, for the auctioneer on the day.

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-That's fine.

-We'll see you at the auction.

-I'll look forward to that, thank you very much.

-Great.

-Lovely.

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Well, that's a couple of good finds from Kate and Will, and, having scoured around myself,

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I've now persuaded Trevor to let me take a closer look at his mysterious wooden box.

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Trevor, what can you tell me about this?

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I can't tell you too much about it.

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-Where did you get this level?

-Where did I get it?

-Yeah.

-I bought it at a boot sale about 25 years ago.

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-On the island?

-On the island.

-And how much did you pay for it?

-About £2.50.

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-Is that all?

-That's all.

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Mind you, it was 20 years ago, I suppose.

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-Yes. Yeah, it was a long time.

-Yeah.

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But I... I bought it for work.

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-What do you do for a living, then?

-I used to be a roofer.

-Right, OK.

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-So I bought this, to use up on the roof.

-To find the angles.

-Yeah, but...

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It's a little too precise, isn't it?

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Yeah, too much for me. I couldn't... Couldn't use it so I put it up in the loft.

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I think you've picked up a bargain, I really do.

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It is for a carpenter, but it's for a cabinet maker that would have worked onboard ship.

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-Yes.

-You can see that was hanging up in a workshop somewhere just with this little hole here.

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-The second-fix cabinetmaker would take this onboard vessel...

-Right.

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..with the pieces of furniture he's made in the workshop to fit in the cabins.

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Now, when he comes to fit the furniture, awkward sized cabins,

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different ribs, different stations and bulkheads protruding in.

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To find the angles he would use this, he would then set his level to find the horizontal.

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Once he's got that gauge he can turn this around and then he knows,

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working off that same station line which he's found, let's say a 45 degree angle,

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he knows where the horizontal is.

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That's very interesting because I knew none of that.

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That is such a precise gauge and tool, it really is.

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I've not seen one like this.

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Well, it's the only one I've ever seen.

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-It's a quality item, it really is.

-Good, that's nice to know.

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I'm quite excited because there are a lot of people that collect levels and spirit levels and gauges.

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I never knew that.

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-Yeah, there's a big collectors' club and I think they're going to want to own it.

-That's nice to know.

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It's a nice Victorian piece, circa 1880, 1890s, towards the end of the Victorian period.

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-I didn't think it was that early.

-Yeah. Why do you want to sell this?

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Well, I lost my teeth last New Year...

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-Oh, yes!

-And I've got to get some new ones.

-So you're going to pay for the teeth.

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So it'll go towards it, yes, yeah.

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Any idea what it's worth?

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I have no idea whatsoever what it's worth.

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I'd like to put this into auction with a valuation of £100 to £150.

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-That would be very nice.

-And hopefully it'll get to the top end.

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-If you pardon the pun, it is going to find its own level around there.

-Be nice, be very nice.

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We'll put a fixed reserve at £100, shall we?

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-Yeah, fine, thank you.

-OK.

-Thank you very much.

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My pleasure. Thank you so much for bringing it in, Trevor.

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It's been my pleasure to bring it in here.

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Well, it's nice to be able to inform folk about an item they know nothing about,

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Then again, we're always happy to see a few old favourites.

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-Hello, Hugh.

-Hi.

-Thank you for coming along today.

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Being on the Isle of Wight

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I expected to perhaps see some seafaring vessels,

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but you've brought along some landlocked examples in these Hornby Dublo train set.

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-Indeed.

-How have you come by this? Is this something that was played with by you?

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Yes, it was...

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It goes back to the mid '50s, childhood toys bought as Christmas presents, birthday presents

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and I played regularly with them until, probably, my early teens.

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-I thought you were going to say last week there...

-No, no, no!

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-Where have they been since then? Tucked away in the loft?

-In several lofts in all the house moves, yes.

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-Because we've got a small selection on the table here in front of us.

-We have.

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-But you came with quite a variety of pieces including a lot of track.

-Yes, indeed.

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Hornby, of course, is a name that everyone's familiar with.

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-Sure.

-It was started back sort of in the 1920s.

-Yeah.

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These were good quality die-cast models realistic to scale,

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there were no corners cut, shall we say?

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These were proper models and it just so happened that they were made for playing with.

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Have you any idea what it is worth, have you had a thought?

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Have you had it valued in the past?

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I have never had it valued, no.

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I mean, I've... I've looked on the internet from time to time and see obviously some...

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-Some items selling individually.

-Yes, yes.

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Yes. I'd like to think it was probably sort of in the low hundreds, the value.

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Well, yeah. I think you're in the right sort of ballpark figure.

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-I can certainly see it, especially as you've got a decent quantity of it.

-Yeah.

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My suggestion would be £200 to £300, perhaps, as an auction estimate.

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-OK, sounds good.

-I think it could stand making a little bit more.

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Why are you selling them? To raise funds for another investment?

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Yes, it's...

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-I'm a supporter and volunteer of the Ellen MacArthur Trust...

-Wonderful.

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..and I'd like to split between the trust

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and I also have a little daughter called Ellen, of course.

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-Oh, do you?

-Yes.

-Named after Ellen?

-After Ellen MacArthur.

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-Really?

-Indeed, yeah.

-She's based on the island now, is she?

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-She lives on the island.

-It sounds like a very worthwhile cause.

-It is.

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So I think if we estimate at £200 to £300, and reserve it at 150...

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-Right.

-Then I think hopefully we'll be able to get some money on the day

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-and that's going to go towards a great cause.

-Yes.

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Well, that's it, we're now ready to make our first trip to Shanklin for today's auction.

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While we make our way there, we'll leave you with a reminder

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of all the items that are going under the hammer.

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Will the fashionistas be out in force to bid on Lindsay's medal?

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It celebrates the 20th anniversary of the House Of Christian Dior

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and Kate valued it at an affordable £40 to £60.

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We've also got Alex's collection of Leach studio pottery.

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She's got a keen eye.

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-I got this in a charity shop.

-OK.

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And I only paid 40p for it.

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She'll make a nice profit if she can reach Will's £150 to £250 valuation.

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Trevor is yet to use his Victorian marine level and I don't think he's wasted his £2.50!

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I think it's a quality item.

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My valuation is £100 to £150 and that should make him smile.

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And, finally, Hugh's Hornby train set.

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He played with it as a young lad, in the 1950s, but it's been ignored since his teens.

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I think Will is on track with his £200 to £300 valuation.

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For today's auction we've headed south on a bright and breezy day to Island Auctioneers here in Shanklin.

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But, before the sale gets underway, I wanted to chat to today's auctioneer, Warren Riches,

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about that 1950s train set.

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Warren, I bet you had a train set like this, didn't you?

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-I did.

-I did, as well.

-Yeah, yeah.

-Everyone had the Hornby.

-They did.

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This belongs to Hugh. He was a lot more careful than I was

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-playing with trains. I never kept the boxes.

-No.

-Did you?

-No.

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The first thing to get thrown out.

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I think that's 30% of the value now, a good box.

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It is, yeah. You can even sell the boxes without the innards now.

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We've put a value of £200 to £300...

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-Right.

-..on the lot...

-Yeah.

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..with the track and the station. What do you think?

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I think it's a good lot. Condition is good, the boxes are good,

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there's a lot of it so I think it should sell for the top end.

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-We're on the right track.

-We are.

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Well, that's good news for Hugh's charity, but right now we're starting off in style -

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Parisian style!

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First up it's Lindsey's limited edition Dior medal.

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We've got £40 to £60 on this.

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Yeah. it's really hard to value because it's almost a one off.

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There are so few made and I can't see who quite will buy it,

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but I'm sure somebody out there will love it.

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I just hope that somebody with a real passion for...

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-A passion for fashion!

-For fashion, yes.

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-Oh, a passion for fashion.

-That's what we like.

-There's lots of women out there with that.

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Not too far away from here!

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Yes, probably, yes.

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What do you do with it other than look at it as I have

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many, many times since I've had it for the last 20 years or so?

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Let's find out. This is a great starting point. Let's see what it sells for. Here we go.

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A Christian Dior silver commemorative medal

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in the presentation case with the maker's mark to it.

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A nice little lot. Someone start me at £20.

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-Yeah, go on.

-20 with Tim. Two can I say?

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20 here. Two anywhere? 22. 24. 26.

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28. And 30. And two.

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30 there. Two anywhere? 30 there.

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Two in a new place. 32. 34. 36. 38.

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And 40. 42.

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-It's sold.

-44? It's 42, then.

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In the centre at 42. All done at 42?

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It sold, £42. That's OK. It was within estimate, wasn't it?

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And Kate was saying, well, how do you put a value on it,

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but you nailed it perfectly.

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-Well...

-You did.

-Tres bien!

-Well done. Thank you very much.

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-Thanks for bringing it in.

-No, that's lovely. Thank you.

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-It's a lovely thing to talk about, isn't it?

-Very interesting, yes.

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-I've had great fun with it. Hopefully somebody else will.

-Exactly.

-Yes.

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Well, I hope the bidders go potty about this next lot because, going under the hammer,

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we've got some studio pottery brought in by Alex.

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Will and I fell in love with these little Leach possessions, didn't we? They're gorgeous.

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Unfortunately, not Bernard Leach, not the name synonymous with fantastic studio pottery,

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but, nevertheless, part of the dynasty.

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-We've got £150 to £250.

-Hopefully.

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Well, you bought really well.

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I did actually, yes. I was really pleased with that.

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-Why are you selling these, though?

-I've got so many things indoors anyway.

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I do like collecting other things and I've seen something here that I like.

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-What? What have you seen?

-I'm not telling you!

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-Oh, come on, we won't...

-A really nice Poole pot, an old one.

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-A bit of Poole pottery.

-Sort of an early one, anyway.

-Yes.

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-So I'd quite like that.

-Have a go for it.

-Yeah, I will.

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Right now, let's get down to business. They're going under the hammer now.

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Five pieces of studio pottery from the Leach studio,

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all with impressed marks to the base.

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A nice collector's piece. 70 anywhere?

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70. And five. And 80.

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And five. And 90. And five. And 100.

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And 110. 120. 130. 140.

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150? 140 then. In the room at 140.

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Are we all done at £140?

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And selling at 140. All done at 140.

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-£140, Alex.

-Oh, lovely. Oh, I'm pleased.

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-He just got them away, didn't he?

-I know, just about.

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I didn't mind taking them home because I love them, but it's nice they've gone to a new home.

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And hopefully the money now is going to go towards that bit of Poole pottery.

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-My piece of Poole pottery.

-We'll keep an eye on you. We'll watch...

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-We'll look after you.

-That's lovely, thank you.

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-Well done, Will.

-Lovely, really enjoyed it.

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Great result for Alex. Next up it's my old friend Trevor.

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Right, it's my turn to be the expert now.

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Next up, the Victorian spirit level and all the proceeds from the sale of this one

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are going to literally put a big smile on Trevor's face.

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Trevor, it's great to see you again.

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-And you've brought the wife along! What's your name?

-Elaine.

-Elaine.

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-He's a bit nervous today.

-He's very nervous, yes.

-It's his first auction.

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-Yes.

-What do you think?

-Yeah, it's all right, isn't it?

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-Hopefully they're all here buying your spirit level.

-I hope so.

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-That was a good find, wasn't it, Elaine?

-It was.

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-The only reason I brought it was because Elaine told me to bring it.

-Really?

-I did, yes.

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-Well, good for you.

-Because I said it was quirky and he should bring it.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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-I like what he's spending the money on.

-Yeah.

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-That's a first on Flog It!, isn't it?

-I hope so.

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I just hope we sell it. I don't want to let you down.

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Late 19th century mahogany and brass marine level.

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Nice calibrated brass scale there.

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-I can start you at 70.

-In at 70. Five anywhere?

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75. 80. Five. 90. Five.

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-We're going to sell it, we're going to do it!

-100.

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110. 120. 130. 140. 150?

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140 here. 150 anywhere?

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150. 160. 170?

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170. 180?

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180, yes. 190? 180, then. It's 180.

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190, he's back in. 200.

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210, only? One more?

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210. 220? 210 then.

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It's in the corner at £210. We're selling at 210, all done.

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Yes! It's all smiles over here!

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-£210!

-That's great!

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Less commission, obviously, but that's fantastic, isn't it?

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-And I'll get my teeth!

-Well, it's a good start, isn't it, yeah.

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-How about that?

-Thank you very much.

-That smile will be beautiful.

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-Trevor's as pleased as punch. Now, I'm really intrigued to see how those Hornby pieces do.

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It's certainly turning into a family event here in Shanklin.

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I've just been joined by Hugh and his daughter Ellen and we're about to sell the Hornby train set,

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which I had the exact model, and I had a chat to the auctioneer before the sale started and so did he.

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We've got £200 to £300, Will.

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That's right, yeah. Reserve at 150, so there's a lot there for your money.

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-There's a lot of kit.

-Good condition and the money's going towards a good cause,

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-as you've mentioned at the valuation day, Hugh. It's all getting split.

-Ellen MacArthur charity.

-It is, yes.

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And you share the same name, don't you, Ellen?

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Well, she'll share a little bit if we make any money.

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-I'm sure you will.

-It's a great cause and it helps kids get out and sail, which is what it's all about.

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-Indeed.

-Yeah. Good luck.

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Good luck, wish daddy good luck, won't you? Here we go.

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It's going under the hammer now. Bless!

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That's better, we got a smile!

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Large collection of Hornby 00 train and accessories, over 30 pieces.

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Lots and lots of interest. Two commissions. £330.

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We're straight in at 330 on two commissions. 330. 340 anywhere?

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330 commission. 340 can I say? 340, phone.

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350? 350. 360. 370. 380?

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380. 390.

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400?

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-It's 390 here. 390.

-You'll be going home via the toy shop!

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390. All done at 390 and selling.

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Very good. Very good result! £390.

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Half of it's going towards you.

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Good luck with the Ellen MacArthur charity because it's such a fantastic cause.

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Get out there and get sailing!

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That is such a good result and the money is going to a very worthy cause.

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Hugh may have decided to sell up his Hornby collection,

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but I'm going to visit a man who's made model railways a hobby for life.

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Mention Hornby and most people in the street are more than likely to know what you're going on about

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because the name and the product is so popular, and I bet, up and down the country,

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there's thousands of houses that have given over their attics, garages and spare bedrooms

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to provide the setting for tiny station guards to operate these miniature signals.

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Hornby is one of the celebrated names in miniature railways,

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designed by Frank Hornby of Meccano and Dinky toy fame.

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They first came onto the market in 1920 as construction kits.

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Later they were sold ready-assembled and shot to prominence in those little red boxes.

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I've always been fascinated by miniature railways and how this hobby has gripped old and young

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in equal measures and inspired many collectors.

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Now, I'm not much of a train spotter, but when I see Hornby train sets at weekend fairs

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and auction rooms all over the country it does put a smile on my face.

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What is it about these diminutive carriages that reduce grown men

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to sitting cross legged in their attics?

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One train enthusiast who's taken his boyhood passion into adulthood is collector Alan Leavy.

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And where better to set up his tracks than in the back garden of his London house?

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This is absolutely marvellous, Alan!

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I like this whole set up being alfresco, especially at this elevated height

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you can really enjoy it,

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but why didn't you decide to put this in the attic or the shed like most railway enthusiasts?

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It just gives you more freedom and when you invite people it's much nicer

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-to take them in the garden rather than up in a loft.

-It is more fun, let's face it, yes.

0:23:200:23:24

I love how you've planted things around, growing in and out of the track, it's great.

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Any problems with leaves on the line?

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Yes, they have to be cleared off and all this lot's come down so far

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and so every year, we'll have that problem.

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-We're all hands to the deck and that's it.

-What about the elements?

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Are you slightly worried about snow and rain?

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No. No, I mean the system goes back to the turn of the century.

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Occasionally you might have to wipe over some of the tracks, whatever the weather is, you can run.

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Have you got some of your earliest locomotives and carriages?

0:23:530:23:56

Yes, 80, 90 years old. They still run and I have those and we can run them at any stage,

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but, like anything else, like vintage cars, you know, you don't want to overdo it.

0:24:030:24:07

-So there's a timetable all year round, basically?

-I'm not into timetables, no.

0:24:070:24:12

-It's whatever is out...

-When the mood takes you.

0:24:120:24:14

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

0:24:140:24:16

So what gauge system is this?

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This is gauge 0, which was very popular from the turn of the century up to the Second World War.

0:24:220:24:29

-Yeah.

-It's twice the size of the popular model railway that most kids get.

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A lot of collectors would prefer to keep these inside and especially in boxes and keep them intact.

0:24:340:24:41

I can understand people not wanting to run a 90-year-old locomotive

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where one chip or two chips off it will probably reduce the price by 25%.

0:24:470:24:50

I like your attitude because you're still a true boy at heart,

0:24:500:24:53

you want to use and play with these. That's what they were designed for.

0:24:530:24:57

Absolutely, totally. When you get things at auction which are in their original boxes

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and the original paper and the original receipt, it's an absolute miracle they've survived.

0:25:010:25:06

-We do see a lot on the road when we're filming and some are in museum condition.

-I know, I know.

0:25:060:25:11

What drew you to collecting model railways?

0:25:110:25:13

I think it was the lack of having them when I was a child.

0:25:130:25:16

-Yeah.

-I was always interested in steam trains. I first saw the sea on a steam train journey

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and when I was able to, in my mid 20s, I started collecting one or two.

0:25:230:25:28

Yeah.

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It might seem like a simple pleasure, but for many the fascination of model trains

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and the business of playing with them isn't just a case of getting the toys out,

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it's a walk down memory lane.

0:25:390:25:41

During the 1930s the steam locomotive experienced something of a golden era

0:25:410:25:47

romanticised in countless black-and-white movies.

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Train platforms were fog bound and fashionable young lovers waited to board mysterious carriages.

0:25:500:25:57

During the Second World War young evacuees were sent to the country,

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perhaps travelling by train for the very first time.

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It set in motion feelings of trepidation and excitement

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that wouldn't diminish with the passing of time.

0:26:110:26:14

It's the nostalgia that accompanies these train sets that still delights countless collectors today.

0:26:140:26:20

What do some of your colleagues and friends think of this passion?

0:26:200:26:24

-Do you worry that they may think you're slightly...nerdy?

-No, I don't worry about what they think.

0:26:240:26:29

-You've had it all before.

-Yes, they think I'm barmy and very few of them share it.

0:26:290:26:33

I've met a whole new group of people who are...

0:26:330:26:36

There's the local postman who's interested.

0:26:360:26:39

It's all gravitated towards you now you've got this outside.

0:26:390:26:42

-Absolutely.

-People can see it in this built-up area.

-Oh, absolutely. In Central London this is unique.

0:26:420:26:47

Yeah. What does your wife think of your passion?

0:26:470:26:50

I think it's like...

0:26:500:26:52

-something that has grown around her...

-Yeah.

-And she's gradually...

0:26:520:26:56

She's had to give up this little garden that we've had for this, but now I think the fact that she can...

0:26:560:27:01

-She's embracing it!

-She can see the railway from her kitchen window. What a lucky girl she is!

0:27:010:27:06

She's in love with the railway by a process of osmosis, really, by default!

0:27:060:27:11

-Very accepting of it, yes.

-You're a lucky man, aren't you?

0:27:110:27:13

-Yeah.

-What does this particular collection mean to you?

0:27:130:27:16

Well, I think this railway means the realisation of a dream of a boy who didn't even have a circle of track...

0:27:160:27:23

to lay down and now one's master of one's universe!

0:27:230:27:28

Universe or otherwise, it's nice to see a collection being used and enjoyed.

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Whoa!

0:27:350:27:37

It's time to go back to our valuation room at Cowes Yacht Haven

0:27:430:27:46

and Kate's straight in with a colourful collection.

0:27:460:27:49

-Marilyn...

-Yeah?

0:27:510:27:52

It's time for tea or coffee. What have you brought us?

0:27:520:27:55

-I take it as coffee.

-Right, because of the shape of the pot?

-Yeah.

0:27:550:27:58

What do you know about it?

0:27:580:28:00

I only know it was my mum and dad's.

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Whether they'd had it for a wedding present...

0:28:030:28:05

-Right.

-..I do not know.

0:28:050:28:07

Well, the date of it is about 1930s, so would that fit in with their...?

0:28:070:28:11

No, they got married in 1940.

0:28:110:28:15

-Well, basically, the maker is Wilkinson.

-Yeah.

0:28:150:28:18

The design is this transfer printed and hand-painted cowslip, but the shape is screaming Clarice Cliff.

0:28:180:28:25

And sadly none of these pieces are marked Clarice Cliff,

0:28:250:28:28

-but she worked for the Wilkinson factory...

-Yeah.

0:28:280:28:30

And all these, this is called the Biarritz shape, is one of the shapes that she got given as blanks

0:28:300:28:36

and told to go crazy and obviously came up with all her designs.

0:28:360:28:40

So, it's a Clarice Cliff shape...

0:28:400:28:42

-Yeah.

-..and it's a Clarice Cliff factory, but it's not got Clarice Cliff design on it.

0:28:420:28:48

But it's still really collectable for that reason and really good fun.

0:28:480:28:52

Any idea, pricewise, what you think it's worth?

0:28:520:28:54

Well, I was looking for somewhere about £100?

0:28:540:28:58

£100-ish.

0:28:580:29:00

Well, we've got quite a few pieces

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and we've got five saucers, four cups, milk and sugar and the coffee pot.

0:29:020:29:07

-Yeah.

-A few little nicks, you know, chips that I can see.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:29:070:29:10

But, overall, pretty good condition.

0:29:100:29:12

I think you're probably about right with your valuation.

0:29:120:29:16

It's going to straddle the £100 mark.

0:29:160:29:18

I would probably put it between 80 and 120...

0:29:180:29:21

-Yes, yes.

-..because of those little bits of damage and maybe a reserve just below that of £70.

-Yeah, yeah.

0:29:210:29:27

-Would you be happy with that?

-Yes, yes, I would, yeah.

0:29:270:29:30

-So...

-I want, you know... I want it to go anyway.

0:29:300:29:33

Why are you selling it? You just don't use it?

0:29:330:29:35

I don't use it and I've got no-one...

0:29:350:29:36

If anything happens to me, I've got no-one to leave it to.

0:29:360:29:39

Right. What would you do with the money if it went?

0:29:390:29:41

I would like a new hall carpet.

0:29:410:29:44

-Oh, right!

-Either that or it's new... Some more clothes!

0:29:440:29:47

-Oh, go for the clothes!

-I think I will.

0:29:470:29:50

OK, I think they would be a really good thing to put to the sale.

0:29:500:29:53

I hope somebody would have it, you know?

0:29:530:29:55

Really look after it, you know?

0:29:550:29:57

-But thank you very much.

-Fingers crossed.

0:29:570:30:00

Well, Richard, I wouldn't want to have to arm wrestle you because as I understand it

0:30:070:30:12

you've carried this down to us today, haven't you?

0:30:120:30:14

-I have.

-We can't really convey it to the viewers, but this weighs a ton!

0:30:140:30:18

When I tried to lift it from the table I thought someone had bolted it down.

0:30:180:30:23

Where have you come by such an unusual piece?

0:30:230:30:25

I bought it at auction some 36 years ago.

0:30:250:30:29

And for 33 years it's hung on my wall and looked very nice

0:30:290:30:34

and been a good talking point, but now it's past its sell-by date.

0:30:340:30:38

Let's think about what it's made of, the material. I mean, it's so heavy

0:30:380:30:43

I would imagine it's going to be some sort of iron or alloy,

0:30:430:30:46

but looking at the colours it looks to have quite a high copper content in the alloy, as well

0:30:460:30:51

and we've got a bit verdigree behind it, as well, which gives that away.

0:30:510:30:56

-Yeah.

-And also behind it, I'm not going to move it, I'm going to leave it as it is

0:30:560:31:00

because, like I've said, it's quite a substantial weight, we've got the foundry mark.

0:31:000:31:04

It's Booth and Brooks Ltd, isn't it?

0:31:040:31:06

-Yeah.

-And they're based in Essex.

0:31:060:31:08

Now, have you connections to Essex at all, is that where it came from?

0:31:080:31:12

Where was the saleroom you bought it?

0:31:120:31:14

Five miles away in Newport.

0:31:140:31:15

Oh, really? So on the island itself.

0:31:150:31:17

So it hasn't gone far.

0:31:170:31:20

-Detail wise it's...really quite something, isn't it?

-Yeah.

0:31:200:31:24

Are there any favourite parts that you particularly like on it?

0:31:240:31:28

Well, every time you look at it you find something new and the bit that I always used to like

0:31:280:31:32

was the little bit down here which is the dog...

0:31:320:31:35

-OK.

-Which was identical to our...

-Was it?

-..dog.

-OK, so that sort of struck a chord with you.

-Yeah.

0:31:350:31:40

I think it's fascinating. I think it's really a sort of masterclass in casting, isn't it?

0:31:400:31:45

Thinking of value, how much did you pay for it?

0:31:450:31:49

-£13.

-£13.

-Can I put that a different way?

0:31:490:31:52

-Yes.

-Two days' wages.

0:31:520:31:54

Two days' wages.

0:31:540:31:56

Bearing in mind that it's this high-Victorian neo-Renaissance shall we call it,

0:31:560:32:03

where they've taken elements of different parts of the Renaissance

0:32:030:32:07

and amalgamated them together in typical Victorian style.

0:32:070:32:10

I mean, it's completely over the top and really epitomises what the Victorians were all about, in a way.

0:32:100:32:16

I think it's got interest in that whole historical area

0:32:160:32:22

as well as being purely aesthetic,

0:32:220:32:26

so, I would think, valuewise, £200 to £300. Is that a fair investment that you've made, do you think?

0:32:260:32:31

-Naturally, one would like more, but I'll...

-Yes.

0:32:310:32:34

But I'll more than be happy to accept 200 to 300, providing the reserve was two.

0:32:340:32:40

OK, I'm happy to do that. But I'm confident that it's going to catch someone's eye, as it caught yours.

0:32:400:32:45

200 to 300 it is, fixed at 200.

0:32:450:32:48

-Done.

-We'll see you on the day.

-You will.

-Good.

-Thank you.

-Well done.

0:32:480:32:51

Oh!

0:32:510:32:53

Well, I think Richard will be quite happy not to have to drag that piece of Victoriana home.

0:32:530:32:58

Now it looks like Kate has found something weighty on her table.

0:32:580:33:03

-So, Patrick...

-Yes.

0:33:040:33:06

-You've brought in a classical lady artistically draped over some kind of big cat here.

-I have, yes, yeah.

0:33:060:33:13

How did you end up with her?

0:33:130:33:14

Originally it was my grandmother's.

0:33:140:33:17

-She owned an antique shop in Canterbury...

-Right.

0:33:170:33:19

..which was the Penny Theatre, and she obviously passed it on to my mother

0:33:190:33:25

and when my mother passed away she passed it on to me.

0:33:250:33:28

-And do you like it?

-I do like it, yes, yeah.

0:33:280:33:32

-You like it up to a certain point at which you would sell it?

-Well, I've got two daughters.

0:33:320:33:36

-Right.

-They've both got children and they like it, but they're scared that it will get damaged.

0:33:360:33:42

-She is in very good condition.

-She is.

-What she is is Minton and she's Parian ware,

0:33:420:33:47

which is this unglazed porcelain, also known as blanc de Chine, so Chinese white.

0:33:470:33:51

-Right.

-And the date letter on the underneath, which I've had a quick look at, is 1858.

0:33:510:33:57

-Right.

-So classic mid-Victorian. Obviously quite an unusual pose.

0:33:570:34:01

It's got a feel of almost Egyptian about it, but also classical, so sort of Egyptian, Greek.

0:34:010:34:08

All her fingers and toes are in good condition, and that's one of the things we see a lot on Parian ware,

0:34:080:34:13

it's very delicate, but even her ribbons and toes and everything's perfect, so that's a good sign.

0:34:130:34:18

-Yeah.

-Do you like her?

0:34:180:34:19

I remember it from when I was a little boy on the piano, so...

0:34:190:34:23

-Right.

-Yeah.

-And pricewise, do you have any idea what you would like to sell it for or...?

0:34:230:34:27

-I don't. Not really, no.

-Not really.

0:34:270:34:30

I think she's probably the low hundreds, so if we were putting a price for auction estimate

0:34:300:34:35

-I would probably put £150 to £200 on her.

-Right.

0:34:350:34:39

Obviously she's over 100 years old and she's in very good condition,

0:34:390:34:43

but they're not the most popular of things at the moment in terms of subject matter.

0:34:430:34:47

-Right.

-So is that the kind of figure you'd want to sell her for?

-That's fine.

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Now, you would normally put a reserve on an item if you don't want it to sell below a certain point.

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-What were you thinking?

-150, something like that?

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-You'd want a 150 reserve. Would you give the auctioneer any discretion?

-Yes, yeah.

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-So maybe if you put the reserve at 140, but a discretionary reserve.

-Right, OK.

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-And an estimate of 150 to 200.

-Yeah, yeah.

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OK. Well, let's see if we can get her away at the auction.

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-OK, then.

-Thank you.

-Thank you.

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And it's now time to return to the auction and here's what we're taking with us.

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Marilyn's 1930s tea or coffee set was made by the Wilkinson factory.

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Will the associations with that famous name help this set on its way?

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Will spotted this unusual wall plaque.

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It's going back to auction after 36 years.

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Richard forked out £13 for it, which was two days' wages back then!

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Will any bidders do the same?

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And last, but not least, will we get a roaring success with Patrick's Parian ware Minton figure

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dating back to 1858?

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It's now time to head back to the Island Auction Rooms.

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I've managed to persuade auctioneer Warren Riches to cast his expert eye over another of our items.

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What do you think of this? It belongs to Richard.

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He brought it along and Will, our expert, has put £200 to £300 on this.

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It's a cast-alloy mixed-metal wall plaque, a Bacchanalian scene, sort of a bit of sort of classicalism.

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We've got a value of £200 to £300 on this.

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Fingers crossed, it's going to sell, but I would be slightly more dubious and put £100 to £200 on this.

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Well, I'm with you on that one, Paul.

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I think it's a good interior piece, you know, it'll hang well and grace the room, but ultimately...

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the age and the material used, I would have put it, if it had walked in the door, 80 to 120.

0:36:410:36:48

-As low as that?

-Yeah, that's what I would have put on it.

0:36:480:36:50

It is interesting, but it's one of those things that's so hard to put a value on,

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and at the end of the day it's going to have to find its own level, isn't it?

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If two or three people get interested in it, we may find a home.

0:36:590:37:04

What you're trying to say is it just might struggle, aren't you?

0:37:040:37:07

I am, indeed.

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Do you know what, a good auctioneer will do the business for it!

0:37:080:37:11

-I'll try my best.

-Yeah, fingers crossed.

-Yeah.

0:37:110:37:13

Well, the auction room is packed to the gunwales, so let's see what the bidders make of our first lot.

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Well, right now it's time for tea, but don't rush and put the kettle on

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because we're selling Marilyn's tea set.

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It's going under the hammer right now with a value of £80 to £120 and it's Staffordshire. It's lovely.

0:37:260:37:33

-Tea sets are fetching good money at the moment.

-This just makes you smile, you know?

0:37:330:37:37

It's a really happy thing. I think the collectors will like it. It's a great shape.

0:37:370:37:41

-Pretty patterns.

-Yeah.

-I don't like it.

0:37:410:37:43

You don't like it! That's why it's here to sell.

0:37:430:37:45

That's right. That's why I want to sell it.

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We just hope there's half a dozen people in the room that want this and are going to bid like mad.

0:37:480:37:53

We're going to find out now. Good luck, Marilyn, and you, Kate. Here it is.

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Art deco Royal Staffordshire pottery tea set.

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Clarice Cliff factory. Someone start me at 50.

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-40.

-40 here. Two can I say? 42. 44.

0:38:030:38:08

-Oh, come on!

-46. 48. And 50.

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And five. And 60.

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And five. And 70.

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And five. Five, phone.

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-We're so close!

-75. And 80. And five.

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And 90. And five.

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And 100?

0:38:240:38:27

No, it's 95 on the phone. 100 anywhere?

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Selling to the phone bidder at 95.

0:38:290:38:32

-Yes! You can rest assured you don't have to take it home!

-Oh, lovely.

0:38:320:38:38

And you got £95, less commission.

0:38:380:38:41

-Yeah.

-That's good, isn't it?

0:38:410:38:43

-It is.

-That's a positive thing.

-I'm pleased, got rid of it!

0:38:430:38:47

The most perfect start! Now, let's hope someone in this room

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is looking for something a bit different to put on their wall.

0:38:510:38:54

We've got £200 to £300 on this.

0:38:550:38:59

-A gift.

-It's a... You bought this a long time ago, didn't you?

0:38:590:39:02

-I did, 35 years ago.

-For 13 odd pounds?

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£13 at my one and only auction.

0:39:050:39:07

-Really, was it?

-Yeah.

-You didn't go back since?

-No, never.

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We've got a fixed reserve of 200 and I know you don't want to let it go for any less than that.

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It's punchy. If you want something that is typically Victorian,

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you've got the industrial side that it's cast alloy,

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-you've got these neo-Renaissance figures.

-Bacchanalian thing going on...

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It's a real mishmash, which is typically Victorian.

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It's got a maker's mark on the back.

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It's good quality, it's really well cast, so let's give it a go at 200 to 300.

0:39:280:39:33

-That's all we can do, really, for you.

-Yeah.

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We're going to see if it finds its own level within that margin, so to speak.

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So, it's going under the hammer now.

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The decorative cast-metal wall plaque

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depicting naked men and females.

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£100 here. 100. 110 can I say?

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100 with the clerk. 100. All done at 100?

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110. 120. 130.

0:39:510:39:53

-Oh, that's just picked up.

-140. 150?

0:39:530:39:55

140. With Tim at 140.

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Are we all done at 140?

0:39:590:40:01

No more bids at 140?

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I'm afraid that one's a no sale.

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A bit punchy, wasn't it?

0:40:070:40:09

-Sorry about that, Richard.

-That's OK.

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But you protected it with the reserve, so, you know, it can go home.

0:40:110:40:14

-You're going to enjoy it.

-Yeah.

0:40:140:40:16

-You've just got to find another wall for it in that new house!

-I have, correct!

0:40:160:40:20

-Make sure it's reinforced, it's got some weight to it!

-It has, yeah.

0:40:200:40:23

Well, that's the luck of the auction room.

0:40:230:40:26

Kate valued the next item with a reserve of £150.

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Now I'm hoping it will create a bit of interest amongst those Victoriana devotees.

0:40:300:40:35

Well, next up is Patrick who's selling one of his family heirlooms.

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It's that lovely Minton figure, but it was grandmother's.

0:40:390:40:42

-That's right, yes. Yeah, going back to Canterbury she owned The Penny Theatre antique shop.

-Wow!

0:40:420:40:47

Is there a sentimental attachment here, cos it is a nice thing?

0:40:470:40:50

It's a nice thing, yes, but then again I'm scared of getting broken

0:40:500:40:53

-because with six grandchildren when they come around it's a bit...

-Yeah.

0:40:530:40:56

The daughters didn't want it.

0:40:560:40:58

-The kids don't want it.

-The kids don't want it.

-You can't split it six ways, can you?

0:40:580:41:02

No, well, not really. No, not six ways, no.

0:41:020:41:04

-We've got £150 to £200.

-Yeah.

0:41:040:41:08

-We should do that top end, shouldn't we?

-You'd hope so.

0:41:080:41:10

The condition is brilliant, which is what you ask for for a collectable, so, yeah.

0:41:100:41:14

We were debating if it was a lion or a tiger, but the auction room settled on panther.

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It's a mythological beast, it doesn't matter!

0:41:180:41:22

-Who cares?

-It's a matter of opinion, really, isn't it?

0:41:220:41:24

-I think whoever buys it is going to call it something different!

-Oh, God.

-That's true!

0:41:240:41:28

Fingers crossed they're going to buy it and it's going under the hammer right now.

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Ariadne on panther.

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That's got a date for 1845.

0:41:350:41:37

-A nice piece of Parian ware, 314. Someone start me at 100.

-Yes.

0:41:370:41:40

£100 here. 110 anywhere? £100 here.

0:41:400:41:43

110 can I say? 110. 120. 130.

0:41:430:41:47

140. 150. 160?

0:41:470:41:49

160. 170. 180. 190? 190.

0:41:490:41:55

-Yeah.

-200. 210. 220.

0:41:550:41:58

230. 240. 250.

0:41:580:42:03

-They absolutely love it.

-250, yes.

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260. 270? 270. 280. 290.

0:42:060:42:10

300, come on! 300, come on!

0:42:100:42:12

-300. 310.

-Yes.

-Yeah!

0:42:120:42:15

320. 330? 330. 340. 350.

0:42:150:42:19

There's two people and they've got stuck in now.

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They do want to let it go.

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380. 390.

0:42:230:42:25

400. 410. 420. 430.

0:42:250:42:30

440. 450.

0:42:300:42:32

460. 470.

0:42:340:42:36

470!

0:42:360:42:39

460 then. It's in the room.

0:42:390:42:40

It's a really rare panther!

0:42:400:42:42

470, new bidder. 480.

0:42:420:42:44

-No more? Not one more?

-Oh, come on.

0:42:440:42:46

-No?

-470.

-470 then.

-470!

0:42:460:42:48

It's on the left hand side in the room at 470. New bidder at 470.

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And selling at 470.

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£470.

0:42:540:42:55

-Excellent.

-That's a lot better than the 150 at the lower end!

0:42:550:43:00

Gosh, you've got to be over the moon with that!

0:43:000:43:02

I am, yeah. Very much so, yeah. Yeah, very much so.

0:43:020:43:05

Well, I know you've got to divide up with a lot of kids.

0:43:050:43:07

We have!

0:43:070:43:09

At least it'll be a good proportion each now.

0:43:090:43:12

-It's a purr-fect result!

-Exactly, and that's the end to a perfect day here on the Isle of Wight.

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We've all thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. I hope you've enjoyed watching.

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