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When Scottish-born doctor Sir Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin

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he changed the course of medical history

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and later on the in the show we'll be looking at how this Nobel Prize winner did it.

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Welcome to Flog It!

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And this is where Fleming was born, Kilmarnock in East Ayrshire.

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Crowds have gathered outside today's venue, the Palace Theatre,

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at this busy junction at the heart of Kilmarnock.

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Judging by this lot, we've certainly got our work cut out.

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Well, there's a great show in town today and all these players

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are hoping to take centre stage with their prized possessions.

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Our two leading stars are David Fletcher and James Lewis,

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spot on experts here. Well, it's now 9:30,

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it's time to get the doors open, get the show on the road and, as they say, let's raise the curtain.

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As everyone gets settled in here's a sneak preview of what's coming up on today's show.

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James finds time to give untrained fashion advice for the style-conscious modern lady.

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Forget going to Louis Vuitton, one of these top London stores

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and paying a couple of hundred pounds for one of those, why not buy that?

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But first, James has spotted a familiar favourite

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and has invited owner, Leticia, to take a seat at his table.

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Leticia, tell me, what is a piece of pottery made in the Midlands in England doing up here in Scotland?

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-I really don't know. It belonged to my grandmother.

-OK.

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-And I remember it from when I was a child in her house.

-Is she local?

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-Yes, yes, she was Scottish, too.

-And is she a collector of this sort of thing?

-Yes. She did.

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She liked to collect antiques and she had quite a lot of interesting pottery, especially vases, she liked.

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-The rim, the metal rim we have here, is probably silver because it's tarnished black.

-Oh, right.

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-If we give it a bit of a rub...

-Oh, yes.

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..it will come up silver.

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But the reason why the metal rims were added is because the glazes were quite delicate and...

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-To stop it chipping.

-It would chip easily. Yeah.

-That's quite a clever idea isn't it?

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Yeah. But if we turn this over we've got a very clear impress mark, Ruskin Pottery, West Smethwick 1909.

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Now, Ruskin was a factory that started in 1904 with a chap called William Howson Taylor.

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Some of his marks include a little scissor mark,

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-just looking like a pair of scissors with the blades open.

-Yes.

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And Ruskin's main selling point was the variety of glazes.

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-Right.

-You get crystalline glazes in the 1930s, you get lustre glazes,

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but you also get this, which is known as sang de boeuf, or oxblood.

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This is the most popular of all of them and this is dated 1909.

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-Yes.

-Of course, that's just five years after the factory opened, so it's lovely and early.

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-But do you like the glaze? Look at the colours.

-Yes, it is unusual.

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The blood red, we've got the little white specks and we've got this wonderful,

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it's almost like a moonlight haze that comes round over it.

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Yes.

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So, why is it here?

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Well, we have a modern house and I've lots of ornaments and I have a lot of jewellery that was my grandmother's

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so that's got more sentimental value for me than the vase, I think.

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And where do you keep it? In the cupboard or out on display?

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-No, it sits on top of the piano.

-Ah, lovely.

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-So, tell me, what do you think it's worth?

-I have absolutely no idea.

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Would £60 to £100 be OK for you as an auction estimate?

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-Yes, I think so.

-You'd be happy at that?

-Yes.

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-How about £100 to £200?

-Well, that would be better.

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Yeah. Two to three?

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-Keep going.

-Keep going. Where do you want me to stop?

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Do you know, I love this, I think it's a great vase,

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-and, with a sang de boeuf glaze, I think it's worth £400 to £500.

-That's good.

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-Is that all right?

-Yes.

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-Might make a bit more.

-Right.

-Might make six on a good day.

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And a reserve of four?

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-Right. Yes.

-Happy with that?

-Yes, I'll take your advice, yes.

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Fantastic. Let's stick it in at that and see what happens.

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Whilst our experts take a look around at the items coming in today,

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I've spotted something that's right up my street.

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Eric, you brought this along to the right person

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because I am a big football fan.

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James and David love their rugby and cricket but I prefer football.

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Tell me a bit about it, because I know it's a Scottish cap.

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Well, I got it from my wife's uncle in 1968.

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-And how did he come by it, then?

-Well, he was really pally with

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the Rangers players, the captain, he gave it to my wife's uncle.

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What a lovely trophy to have.

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It's dated 1902 to 1903 season, it is obviously from the home internationals

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-because it says here Scotland v England.

-Yes.

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Sporting memorabilia is big business if you have the star of the right team.

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Forwards tend to fetch a lot more money than defenders and, of course,

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if this player played for someone like Celtic or Rangers, clubs that are big now,

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it's going to fetch a lot more money, so do we know who he was and who he played for?

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He was a Smith and he played for Glasgow Rangers.

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He's going to be well sought-after, very collectable.

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Do you know, the condition, it isn't too bad for its age, is it?

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It's still got all its braiding, its gold wire work,

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which is what the collectors will look for.

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It's got its strong hue of blue, and the emblem is still all there, Scotland v England.

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Why do you want to sell it?

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Well, I've got a son and a daughter and four grandchildren, so...

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-Not one of them can own it really, you've got to split it up and that's a fair way of doing it.

-Yes.

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-Have you any idea of value off the top of your head?

-No, nothing.

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If we put this into auction with an auction guide of £1,200 to £1,500

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and hopefully we'll get £1,800 to £2,000, that's what I'm hoping for.

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-I'd like this to see £2,000 on a good day.

-Great, that's fine.

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But we do have to tempt the bidders in. Happy with that?

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-Very.

-OK, I'll see you at the auction.

-Great.

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-Hello, Edward.

-Hello.

-What do you do for a living?

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Well, I'm retired now but still do a little bit of house clearing.

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And I guess that's where you came by this?

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-Yes. It was lying tucked away in a cupboard.

-Right.

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-So it wasn't hanging on the wall?

-No.

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Edward, this is a very attractive subject, typically late Victorian.

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It has all those sentimental elements that the Victorians loved so much.

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You know, a pretty, young mother with a pink bloom on her cheeks,

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a little tubby baby, or toddler, I suppose, a spray of flowers, a pink frock.

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I think it's only fair to say it's not a great picture...

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-although it's a charming composition.

-Yes.

-Technically, there are flaws.

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I think the mother is lovely,

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she looks terrific.

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Her hands, I must say, are not terribly well painted.

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You can learn a lot from looking at the way an artist paints hands.

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-There is a certain amount of damage here.

-Yes.

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Bitumen has taken over and rather...

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corroded the varnish and is actually starting to eat into the canvas a bit.

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Is it the sort of picture you like?

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It's quite attractive. It attracts you to it.

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-Yeah.

-And the frame, I think it's a lovely frame.

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The frame, I should mention, I think is period, contemporary with the picture itself.

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-Again, a bit of damage down there.

-Yes.

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It's not a connoisseur's picture, for the reasons I just explained -

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the quality just isn't quite there, but I think it's a good decorative image.

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-I would suggest an estimate in the region of £100 to £150.

-Yeah?

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-Does that sound OK to you?

-Yeah, that sounds all right with me.

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I think a covering reserve would be in order at a bit less than £100.

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-Yes.

-Shall we say £80?

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-That'll be fine, yeah.

-OK, and what will you spend the money on?

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Well, I'll split it with my son-in-law and probably go out for a meal.

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You'll have to give some proceeds to the person who helped you clear the house.

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-Yes, it was my son-in-law.

-It was your son-in-law. OK.

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Alison and Eileen, tell me who is the owner of this lovely little bag?

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Well, we both own it. We're sisters and this was our grandmother's.

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Was it? Oh, so is it the sort of thing you had in your dressing up box as little girls?

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-Probably was. We're not sure it was.

-Played ball gowns and things.

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Yes. I think that would be about it.

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We were allowed to look at it but not touch.

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Oh, really? So it's got lots of childhood memories.

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-Yes, it has.

-Yes, it has.

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It's a lovely little bag. I mean, it is so classic of the Art Nouveau period.

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You know, it has these wonderful sinuous lines and stylised flower heads and foliage.

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Art Nouveau basically was a movement totally inspired by nature.

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Although it isn't a true cartouche, that was left plain

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so that you could engrave your owner's initials onto it, and if we open it up,

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there we have little divisions, one for probably a little ivory notelet

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for when you were at your ball, you'd have a little ivory notelet and a pencil

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so you could make sure you knew who your next dance was with,

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a little aide-memoire, and then little sections in the centre for sovereigns and maybe for stamps,

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and a little thing at the end for a bit of paper money if you were feeling flush at the time.

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And the idea of the ring at the top would be that that would be put through the lady's finger

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and when she was dancing she'd be able dance with the purse held high.

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No pockets, of course, in the dresses,

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and she wouldn't have to worry about where she'd left her purse while she was dancing.

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The three very clear marks, the lion passant, which means it's English sterling silver,

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and then we've got the Chester hallmark, there, with the three wheatsheafs

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and the K for about 1910. 1910, 1911.

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Forget Louis Vuitton, a top London store, and paying a couple of hundred pounds for one of those,

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why not buy that?

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-Yes.

-And you know none of the other ladies at the ball are going to have one of these.

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-And the little things inside?

-Let's have a look. Isn't that lovely?

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A little souvenir from the exhibition of 1901.

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This, of course, was the great time of exhibitions.

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The first one, the first grand one, London 1851,

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and they were every sort of five or ten years all through that period.

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It's gilt brass with a blue enamel front.

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-It's not going to be worth an awful lot.

-No.

-No.

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-But I think it's quite fun to keep it in the purse, don't you?

-Yes.

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-It is.

-I bet that's been in there for almost a hundred years.

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-Probably has.

-Why sell it?

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-Well, it's been just hidden away. We keep it in a cabinet...

-Yeah.

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..so it would be nice for somebody to appreciate, maybe a collector or somebody who could enjoy it.

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OK. I think...

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if we put an estimate of £60 to £100 on it, that's a fair and realistic estimate.

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-I hope it will go towards the upper end of that.

-Right.

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So I think we should put a reserve on it of 60, protect it at that,

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we'll take it to the auction, do our best and see what happens, eh?

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-OK.

-Well, see you there.

-Thank you very much.

-Yes. Look forward to it.

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We're halfway through our day.

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We've found some fantastic items, which means we're going to put those valuations to the test.

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It's off to the auction room and, as you know, anything can happen, so while we make our way over there,

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here's a quick rundown, just to jog your memory, of all the items we're taking with us.

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We've just seen it, Eileen and Alison's family silver in the shape of a lady's purse

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complete with souvenir charms from Glasgow's 1901 exhibition.

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This charming piece was nearly lost in a house clearance.

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Edward spotted it and David feels it may bring in a bit of spending money for the dining-out fund.

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Next, with strong links to Scotland, Eric's footballer's cap.

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James and David love their rugby and cricket but I prefer football.

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And, with an estimate of £1,200, I hope someone will be as taken with it as I am.

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And finally, a piece of Ruskin.

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Good oxblood colour and shape.

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Leticia is hoping that, with a reserve of £400, it's going to draw in a bid or two.

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We've come across country

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to the Great Western Auction Rooms in Glasgow, where we're selling.

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First, I caught up with auctioneer Anita Manning to share some thoughts on the Scottish cap.

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Now, hopefully this is going to be very rare, this is one of my valuations. Eric brought this in.

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It belonged to a left back, a chap called Smith, who played for Scotland only three or four times.

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I did more research on it. This chap, a very fast winger,

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a great player, tiny little guy, I think he was only 5'6",

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very light and very fast.

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Now, the added thing with this particular cap, I felt sort of 800 might be about the price...

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-Mm.

-..but when I did my research I realised that this cap may have been given to Alexander Smith

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at the match in March 1902.

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Now, at that match there was a disaster during the match.

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-Part of the stand fell in, people were killed, 500 people were injured...

-Yeah.

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..so it may be that that fact will give this...

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-A little bit of added interest.

-A little bit of added interest.

-Yes.

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So I'm happy to give it a good try.

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And let's just hope it hits the back of the net.

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That's interesting research. Let's see how it does later, but for now it's on with auction.

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It's amazing what you can find in a house clearance. This is one of those lots.

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-It belongs to Edward here who did that house clearance.

-Yes.

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And this was on the wall, was it, or just lying around?

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-Lying in the loft.

-Good for you for picking it up.

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-The builders would have come in and skipped the whole thing.

-That's what they do.

-Good picture.

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-Yes.

-Good luck. This is it.

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Lot 369. Now, this is a 19th-century oil, ladies and gentlemen.

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Can we say £300?

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£300 for the Victorian oil?

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-Bit optimistic, I feel.

-200?

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Will you start me at £100? 100 bid.

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With you, sir, at £100, the Victorian oil, mother and child.

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Any advance on £100?

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Seems cheap at 100.

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Any advance on 100? All done at 100?

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100...

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-Yes, sold it. £100, bottom estimate.

-Bottom estimate.

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-That's OK for a house clearance find.

-Yes. Better than going in the skip.

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Next up, a silver purse and two book charms

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-belonging to two very charming sisters, Eileen and Alison. I got that right, didn't I?

-You did.

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Did you see this little purse and the book charms as you were growing up as little girls in Mum's house?

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-Yes, we did.

-Yes?

-I don't quite know when we saw it but we definitely saw them over the years.

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Lots of memories. Lots of memories here, James.

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Yeah, a sweet little thing, and there is lots of silver in the sale.

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-Yes, our dealers are going to be here.

-They are.

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Fingers crossed, somebody is going to pick up on this, it'll find a collector and we'll get the top end.

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-OK?

-Fingers crossed.

-Here we go.

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And a lovely little Art Nouveau embossed silver purse.

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It's Chester 1910 and it has two little book charms,

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one depicting scenes from the Glasgow exhibition of 1901.

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Lovely wee thing there.

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I'm holding bids, ladies and gentlemen,

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I'm holding bids and I can start the bidding...

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-Eileen this is good.

-..at £30.

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It's with me at 30. 40, 50...

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-I've got excited then.

-60, 70. 80, I'm out.

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It's on the floor at £80.

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It's on the floor at 80.

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Any advance on 80? 80, 90, 100, 110, 120.

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£120. It's with you, sir, at 120.

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Any advance on 120? All done at 120? 120.

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-That's a good result.

-How exciting.

-Top end.

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-Happy, very happy.

-Very happy. Very happy.

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Well, you know what they say don't you? If the cap fits, wear it.

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There's a clue to what's next.

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Yes, it's that Scottish football cap, it belongs to Eric and it's just about to go under the hammer.

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Now, I had a quick chat with Anita before the auction started.

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I just hope, because it is a one-off,

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it's so rare, that people will go that little bit extra to buy it.

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So hopefully we're going to get £1,200 for it.

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-Hopefully.

-Hopefully. We're going to find out right now. This is it.

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Lot 218 is this Scottish international football cap,

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Scotland versus England 1902-1903,

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presented to Alexander Smith of Rangers football club.

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Will you start me at £1,000, ladies and gentlemen? 1,000?

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600, then? 600, 600, 600 bid...

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It's going in the wrong direction.

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Any advance on 600? 650.

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700, 750, 800,

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850...

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900, 950, 1,000...

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-It's creeping up.

-1,000.

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£1,000.

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Any advance on 1,000?

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Any advance on 1,000?

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Any advance on 1,000?

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-It didn't sell, Eric, I'm ever so sorry.

-Just unlucky.

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Yeah, I think that £1,000 was a psychological barrier, it was a round figure,

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one big round figure, and people didn't want to push over that.

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It's disappointing news for Eric.

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Maybe the crowd are more pottery-driven.

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Well, I've certainly been waiting for this one, it's that lovely Ruskin pottery vase.

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-It belongs to Leticia, here. It's been on your piano for 30-odd years.

-It has.

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This is it.

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Lot 568 is the Ruskin pottery, high-fired cylindrical vase.

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Start me at 400.

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-200, then.

-Ooh.

-200. 200 bid.

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Any advance on 200?

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Any at 220?

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240, 260, 280, 300,

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320, 340, 360, 380...

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And there's a telephone bid.

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400 on the other phone.

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420, 440, 460.

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With Les on the phone at 460.

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All done at 460, 460.

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-Well.

-£460, got it away.

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-Is it within estimate?

-Yes.

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-That's good.

-That's really good.

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-It is.

-Happy with that?

-Yes, very happy.

-£460.

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-What will you put the money towards?

-A nice family meal to start with.

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-Well, enjoy it, won't you? And treat yourself, as well.

-Yes.

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Well, that is a good price and a perfect present for somebody

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with an eye for detail and a passion for design.

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And later on we'll see how I could have been quite passionate about an item given half a chance.

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You zoomed in on it, you focused it, you grabbed it.

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We'll be back at auction later but, for now, I'm heading down to London.

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I'm on the trail of a man who took the very same journey that I've just done,

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from Scotland down here to London, but he was only 16 years old and he had the good fortune

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of being in the right place at the right time.

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And his name was Alexander Fleming.

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Many things that we rely on from day to day were the result of a complete but harmonious accident.

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Velcro, nylon, Teflon. Safety glass, even,

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but can you begin to imagine a world without sugar substitutes?

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What about something that could change the fate of mankind?

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How about medicine?

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Penicillin, a wonder drug, yes.

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The identification of the fungus penicillium chrysogenum

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was one such blissful accident that changed the face of medicine forever

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and it sparked off an antibiotic revolution, saving millions and millions of lives in the process.

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The humble laboratory now, the Fleming Museum at St Mary's Hospital in Paddington

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is where Scotsman Alexander Fleming made his monumental discovery.

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Born to a farming family in Kilmarnock in East Ayrshire in 1881,

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the young Fleming, equipped with his natural desire to learn, arrived in the big city of London.

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After a dismal job as a shipping clerk he set about a career in medicine.

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In 1901, at the age of 21, he began at St Mary's hospital as a medical student

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and then worked there when he was qualified, staying for 49 years.

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Although he had wanted to become a surgeon,

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places were limited, so he began a career as a bacteriologist.

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It was 1928 and, as always, Fleming's desk was awash

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with numerous test tubes, bits of equipment and old petri dishes.

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I'm starting to build a picture of what it must have been like

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when things we take for granted, like sanitation and the NHS, did not exist,

0:22:060:22:12

and, to gain a better understanding of what penicillin has meant for mankind and medicine,

0:22:120:22:17

my journey across London continues. I'm off to speak to GP, Gillian Jenkins.

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-I think we've painted a picture here with the right setting.

-I think it's wonderful.

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Tell me about the early part of the 1900s.

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The early part of the 1900s, for most people, still involved

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very little knowledge about nutrition, about sanitation.

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People, on the whole, lived rather sort of messy lives.

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Your average person didn't get the sort of medical treatment we'd expect.

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They hadn't got the money or access to doctors,

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so people lived with a lot of squalor that we wouldn't accept now.

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And the average life span was really only about 50.

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-Really? So young.

-So young.

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In general, what were most people dying of?

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On the whole, it was infections that carried a lot of people off.

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There was no real good treatment for them.

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Let's talk about some of the methods used for treating patients. I know some of them are quite horrific.

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Yes. Before modern medicine as we know it, medical care was fairly basic and, yes, fairly...

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-Crude.

-..crude.

-To say the least.

0:23:220:23:25

We've got here, all sort of lotions and potions and cure-alls which I dread to think what's in them,

0:23:250:23:30

but things like arsenic were used.

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-You sort of have the very...

-Leeches.

0:23:320:23:34

Leeches, blood-letting, and then basic surgery, if you couldn't sort of suck the blood out of it,

0:23:340:23:39

-or paint it over with some toxic lotion, you'd hack it off.

-Yeah.

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Often without anaesthetic, or much anaesthetic.

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People didn't understand fully about infection and preventing it.

0:23:450:23:49

How did Fleming go about his work?

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Fleming seemed to live in the typical type of scientist's lab

0:23:510:23:55

but maybe with even less order than, say, some of the other guys he was working with at the same time.

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He had no access, of course there were no computers, so he didn't have

0:24:020:24:05

any of the hi-tech stuff we'd expect today.

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He would have simple methods, he would have simple equipment,

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he'd have a microscope, he'd have petri dishes,

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he lived in this rather messy environment with things everywhere

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and dust and dirt, and it was the serendipitous way that he made the discovery about penicillin.

0:24:180:24:25

How did that come about, then?

0:24:250:24:27

-Well, Fleming tended to have his lab in a bit of a mess...

-Yeah.

0:24:270:24:30

..and he didn't clear up after himself and it benefited him in the simple way that he went away,

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having left petri dishes of this agar,

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trying to culture different bacteria which he was looking at - how bacteria grow.

0:24:370:24:42

When he came back he discovered that the blue-green common mould that we see,

0:24:420:24:46

-that grows on bread...

-Bread, cheese and things.

0:24:460:24:48

It landed, because of his open window, some had grown on the agar gel, but not only had it grown there,

0:24:480:24:55

the staphylococcus had been killed off by it.

0:24:550:24:58

So he realised, where perhaps other people hadn't made the link,

0:24:580:25:02

that the mould was producing something that killed bacteria.

0:25:020:25:07

-And it's from there on he worked.

-Incredible.

0:25:110:25:14

How does it actually work?

0:25:140:25:17

We know that penicillin works on the cell wall.

0:25:170:25:20

The process involves something called beta-lactam and it breaks down the cell wall of the bacteria

0:25:200:25:27

-so that when it tries to reproduce, or even before then, the cell lyses, it bursts...

-OK.

0:25:270:25:32

So it causes the cells to just rupture instead of being able to multiply and continue the infection.

0:25:320:25:38

-Talk about some of the illnesses it can cure.

-An awful lot of infections, chest infections...

0:25:380:25:43

-Throat.

-Throat, skin, urinary tract infections, kidney infections.

0:25:430:25:47

In particular, certain groups you've got, particularly soldiers in wars where the other,

0:25:470:25:54

the old way of them being treated was so ineffective that most of them either died or needed amputation.

0:25:540:26:00

-It offered them health when they didn't have any option.

-Yeah, a new lifeline, basically.

-Yes.

0:26:000:26:06

It took another 12 years for penicillin to emerge as the miracle drug.

0:26:060:26:10

Although Fleming's observations did not go unnoticed, nothing substantial came of his findings

0:26:100:26:16

until a team in Oxford took up the research, enabling them to identify a way of purifying the substance.

0:26:160:26:23

By 1939, and the onset of World War II, penicillin was being produced and effectively administered

0:26:250:26:32

and lives were being saved.

0:26:320:26:34

In 1944 Fleming was knighted, his contribution to the world of medicine was acknowledged.

0:26:340:26:40

In 1945 he was awarded, along with two other scientists, the Nobel Prize for medicine.

0:26:400:26:46

From London I'm heading back up north to Fleming's home town and our valuation room

0:26:550:27:00

in Kilmarnock's Palace Theatre.

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Deirdre, tell me about it.

0:27:050:27:09

Well, it belonged to my great aunt and when she died,

0:27:090:27:13

her husband, my great uncle, had to go into a home

0:27:130:27:17

and they asked me to clear the house and to keep anything that I wanted

0:27:170:27:21

to keep and just distribute it among family and things.

0:27:210:27:25

So I tried to give it away to...

0:27:250:27:27

all the members of the family. I asked them if they wanted this pot and nobody wanted it, so I thought,

0:27:270:27:33

"Och, I'll just keep my teabags in it in the kitchen," so that's what it was used for.

0:27:330:27:38

So their loss is your gain.

0:27:380:27:40

It wasn't made for teabags, of course.

0:27:400:27:44

It was made in Wemyss in the Wemyss pottery,

0:27:440:27:49

not a million miles from here, in Fife,

0:27:490:27:53

and it is typical of the sort of product

0:27:530:27:57

-that was made in that factory during the 1920s.

-Oh, great.

0:27:570:28:02

Hand painted in the freest possible manner, really.

0:28:020:28:07

Crafted objects a million miles, really,

0:28:070:28:11

-from the Art Deco objects we see from the same period.

-Yes.

0:28:110:28:17

This is different altogether, really.

0:28:170:28:19

More sophisticated, some would say, others might disagree,

0:28:190:28:24

far more interesting, I think and above all, more personal, really.

0:28:240:28:30

These products are known as Wemyss

0:28:300:28:34

in honour of Lady Grosvenor who lived at Wemyss Castle.

0:28:340:28:39

-Right, I didn't know that.

-Well, that's how it gets its name.

0:28:390:28:42

I dare say it was made to contain

0:28:420:28:47

something like sugar, possibly tobacco,

0:28:470:28:50

you know, a household commodity...

0:28:500:28:53

-Yeah.

-So, your teabags are not a million miles off the mark.

0:28:530:29:00

Why do you feel you don't need it any longer?

0:29:000:29:03

Well, I looked at a magazine one day and it said it was a collectable

0:29:030:29:10

and I wasn't using it as a collectable

0:29:100:29:12

and I'm sure there are people who collect this kind of thing.

0:29:120:29:14

Good point, and a collector will probably look after it better...

0:29:140:29:19

-Yes.

-..than you would be able to if you are using it every day.

0:29:190:29:22

-Yes.

-With the best will in the world you're going to chip it or knock it if you're not careful.

-Yes.

0:29:220:29:27

And what will you use the money for?

0:29:270:29:28

I've got grandchildren that I see every day and it would be nice

0:29:280:29:31

to have some play equipment in the back garden for them to play on.

0:29:310:29:34

-Splendid.

-A swing or a trampoline or something.

0:29:340:29:36

That's a great idea. So have you any idea what it might be worth?

0:29:360:29:40

£50?

0:29:400:29:42

More than that. I think we would place an estimate,

0:29:420:29:48

oh, in the region of four times that on it.

0:29:480:29:52

-Wow.

-So I would suggest we went for £200 to £300,

0:29:520:29:58

and that, if you were happy, we agreed a reserve...say of 180.

0:29:580:30:04

The only problem you'll have is finding something else to put your teabags in.

0:30:040:30:08

-Yes, indeed.

-You hadn't thought of that, had you?

0:30:080:30:11

Jane, I have to say, I absolutely love it.

0:30:140:30:19

-It's mad, isn't it?

-It is. It is fun, yeah.

0:30:190:30:22

We've got a Victorian desk weight and paperclip, desk clip,

0:30:220:30:26

cast in bronze as a monkey jockey riding, what looks to me like a...

0:30:260:30:32

I think it's a greyhound.

0:30:320:30:33

-I think it's a greyhound.

-I think so.

-Yeah. Quite a muscly greyhound.

0:30:330:30:37

It is yeah, yeah, quite strong.

0:30:370:30:39

But isn't it crazy? Only the Victorians would do such a thing.

0:30:390:30:42

-Yes.

-Tell me, how did you come to have such a fantastic thing?

0:30:420:30:46

Well, I inherited it from my mother and she, in turn, inherited it from her parents.

0:30:460:30:51

I've always known it. It was in my grandparents' house when I went on holidays

0:30:510:30:54

and later when I lived there and it's just always been there.

0:30:540:30:57

-And I bet you did this as a kid, didn't you?

-Oh, yes. Yes.

0:30:570:31:01

-It was always referred to as the horse...

-The horse!

0:31:010:31:03

..and I think it was a long time before I realised it wasn't a horse, at all.

0:31:030:31:08

Did they realise it wasn't a horse?

0:31:080:31:09

Yes. They called it that out of fun.

0:31:090:31:11

The centre for this type of work was Austria.

0:31:110:31:15

There's one factory

0:31:150:31:16

that always calls out this sort of quality and that's Bergman.

0:31:160:31:21

-Right.

-Sometimes you see a little mark,

0:31:210:31:24

I've had a good look over this, and I couldn't see a mark anywhere.

0:31:240:31:28

-Sometimes it's a vase with a B in the centre.

-Mm-hm.

0:31:280:31:31

Sometimes it's marked, quite clearly, "Bergman",

0:31:310:31:35

and sometimes it's marked "Namgreb",

0:31:350:31:38

Bergman backwards.

0:31:380:31:39

Oh, yes, right, I see.

0:31:390:31:42

-It's cold-painted bronze.

-Oh, right.

0:31:420:31:44

The fact that it's got its original paintwork means a lot

0:31:440:31:48

because these things, because they were fun,

0:31:480:31:50

because they were often novelty animals,

0:31:500:31:52

kids got their hands on them and played with them

0:31:520:31:54

and as soon as you get a kid playing around with cold-painted bronze

0:31:540:31:58

-the paint chips off all over the place.

-Yeah.

0:31:580:32:00

You can see a bit of the damage on his jockey cap.

0:32:000:32:03

-Yes, yeah.

-But really it's not in bad condition.

0:32:030:32:06

Well, considering it's probably, what? 100 years old?

0:32:060:32:09

-Yes, it was made probably 1870, 1890.

-As long ago as that?

0:32:090:32:13

Yeah, somewhere round there. But it's useful,

0:32:130:32:15

it's practical, it's in good condition

0:32:150:32:19

and it's novelty, and those three things are all in its favour.

0:32:190:32:23

The rectangular stand that it's on is in walnut.

0:32:230:32:28

-Oh, I wondered.

-It's got that lovely golden glow.

-It has, yes.

0:32:280:32:31

And we've got these little areas round the outside of patination.

0:32:310:32:36

Why is it here?

0:32:360:32:37

To be honest, I haven't used it and it hasn't really had a place on show, you know.

0:32:370:32:41

-Yeah.

-And I suppose, as well, because I've known it all my life

0:32:410:32:44

-to a certain extent it's lost its wow factor for me a little bit.

-Yes.

0:32:440:32:47

-You know, because I'm so used to it.

-What do you think it's worth?

0:32:470:32:51

Having listened to you, I thought possibly about £100.

0:32:510:32:54

-The £100 should be increased to £300 to £500.

-Really? As much as that?

0:32:540:32:59

-Yeah.

-My goodness.

0:32:590:33:02

-That is good news.

-Brilliant. So why don't we put £300 on it as a reserve

0:33:020:33:07

and if it doesn't make that, take it home and enjoy it for a bit longer.

0:33:070:33:10

Put it somewhere I can use it. Yes, that sounds ideal to me. You've made my day.

0:33:100:33:14

Marjorie, we know that it's silver because it's hallmarked.

0:33:220:33:26

Now the hallmarks tell us two or three things.

0:33:260:33:28

They tell us, firstly, the maker.

0:33:280:33:30

In this instance the maker was Robertson Belks.

0:33:300:33:33

They tell us where it was assayed, and in this case we know that it was assayed in Sheffield

0:33:330:33:38

because it has the crown, which is the mark of the Sheffield assay office,

0:33:380:33:43

and we know that it was assayed, most importantly of all really,

0:33:430:33:46

that's the thing we really need to know, in 1889.

0:33:460:33:50

Finally, it bears the head, the bust, the portrait bust of Queen Victoria,

0:33:500:33:55

which tells that duty has been paid on it.

0:33:550:33:58

I notice the inscription on this refers to a person or a couple who were evidently publicans.

0:33:580:34:05

-That's right, yes.

-Who were Mr and Mrs Mills?

0:34:050:34:07

That was my grandparents and they owned the hotel in Anstruther.

0:34:070:34:11

-They owned the Commercial hotel.

-Yes.

0:34:110:34:13

So how did it come to end up with you?

0:34:130:34:16

It's not actually mine, it still belongs to my dad.

0:34:160:34:18

-To your dad. OK.

-And he just asked me to get it valued today.

0:34:180:34:21

OK. And you got it valued and you decided to sell it.

0:34:210:34:24

-He has, yes.

-And he's happy with that?

0:34:240:34:26

-I think so.

-Good. You've spoken to him.

-I have.

0:34:260:34:28

Don't want to do anything that your dad wouldn't want us to be doing.

0:34:280:34:31

It's decorated in the neo-classical style

0:34:310:34:36

and, as you can see, there's a frieze of

0:34:360:34:39

what look like gladiators, really, almost as if they're being led to battle, with a goddess in front

0:34:390:34:46

holding a laurel leaf, looking as if she may indicate peace,

0:34:460:34:50

so perhaps she's trying to stop the conflict which might otherwise occur.

0:34:500:34:54

And continuing that theme it has this wonderful cast Grecian helmet on the top of the finial.

0:34:540:35:01

Now, I think that this is worth between £300 and £400.

0:35:010:35:07

With luck and a foreign wind it might make more.

0:35:070:35:09

I'd like to suggest, if we may, a reserve of 280...

0:35:090:35:12

-Right.

-..just below the £300 mark.

0:35:120:35:14

And are you mindful of what you might spend the money on?

0:35:140:35:17

-Not really. It's not up to me.

-OK, that's your father's decision.

-Yes.

0:35:170:35:21

-Perhaps he'll take you away somewhere nice for a weekend.

-Hopefully he'll give me some of it.

0:35:210:35:25

-I'm sure we'll do very well with it.

-Right.

0:35:250:35:27

Marjorie's happy and the jug completes our selection of items bound for auction.

0:35:290:35:34

So let's recap.

0:35:340:35:35

David thought Marjorie's family silver jug

0:35:350:35:38

should fetch a handsome price and has set the reserve at £280.

0:35:380:35:43

Next, James was completely smitten with the Bergman brass monkey on a greyhound.

0:35:430:35:47

It may have lost the wow factor for Jane but,

0:35:470:35:50

with an estimate of between £300 and £500, it's going to be a serious contender for any buyer.

0:35:500:35:57

From treasured keepsakes to teabag holders, Deirdre may have just recognised its potential

0:35:570:36:02

but David spotted the Wemyss pot instantly and valued it accordingly.

0:36:020:36:07

I think we would place an estimate...

0:36:070:36:10

oh, in the region of four times that on it.

0:36:100:36:14

Wow.

0:36:140:36:16

Let's not mess about, let's get straight over to the auction rooms

0:36:160:36:19

where Deirdre's Wemyss ware is ready and waiting to go under the hammer.

0:36:190:36:23

I absolutely love this next item, it's one of my favourites.

0:36:250:36:28

It's Wemyss, it's a lovely pot, it's in at £200 to £300 and it belongs to Deirdre here

0:36:280:36:32

and not for much longer.

0:36:320:36:34

-No.

-And I know you kept your teabags in this.

0:36:340:36:37

-Yes.

-Are you here by yourself today?

0:36:370:36:39

-No, my daughter's with me and my husband's over at the other end.

-Hello. There she is.

0:36:390:36:43

-What's her name?

-Neriana.

-Neriana?

0:36:430:36:46

-Yeah.

-What a fantastic name. Neriana.

-Never heard of that before.

-Nor have I.

0:36:460:36:50

-They're more than useful, these items, we shouldn't underestimate their decorative value.

-No.

0:36:500:36:54

-They were ahead of their time when they came out, you know.

-It's almost timeless.

-It is.

0:36:540:36:59

-You can put it in a little twee cottage on a dresser...

-Yes.

0:36:590:37:02

..or you can put it in a hi-tech apartment and it's got the look.

0:37:020:37:05

-Yeah.

-The question is...

0:37:050:37:06

will it go at the lower or top end or could it shoot right through the ceiling on this one?

0:37:060:37:11

It's all down to the magic of Anita Manning, who's on the rostrum right now.

0:37:110:37:14

-Let's get on with it, shall we?

-Yes.

-Let's do it. Here we go.

0:37:140:37:17

493 is the large Wemyss preserve pot and cover with plums.

0:37:170:37:24

£400?

0:37:240:37:26

300?

0:37:260:37:28

Start me at 200, ladies and gentlemen, start me at £200.

0:37:280:37:33

Start me at 100, then.

0:37:330:37:35

-100, 100 bid.

-We're off.

0:37:350:37:38

100, 110, 120, 130...

0:37:380:37:40

-Right, now we've got going.

-140, 150, 160, 170, 180.

0:37:400:37:44

180.

0:37:460:37:48

190 on the phone.

0:37:500:37:52

£190 on the phone.

0:37:520:37:55

For the Wemyss preserve pot.

0:37:550:37:57

190. Any advance on 190?

0:37:570:38:01

Any advance on 190?

0:38:010:38:04

All done at 190? 190.

0:38:040:38:07

-Sold.

-Well, we got there.

0:38:070:38:08

-Got there, yeah.

-Just.

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Just. It was the lower end.

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Wing and a prayer but we made it.

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Next up we've got that wonderful silver claret jug.

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It belongs to Marjorie. Well, Marjorie's dad, who you've brought along. Richard, pleased to meet you.

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-Pleased to meet you.

-Bit of quality.

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-Yeah.

-Love it to bits, I really do, and I think David does, as well.

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-Yes.

-We've got £300 to £500 on this.

0:38:300:38:32

-Yes.

-Now you brought it along for a valuation, purely for a valuation,

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and we've ended up putting it into auction.

0:38:370:38:40

-So you had to go home and tell dad, did you?

-Had to get permission.

-"I left it there.

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"It's going under the hammer." Did you mind?

0:38:440:38:46

-No, I don't mind.

-You don't mind at all.

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Have you used this a lot?

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I hadn't seen it for 50-odd years.

0:38:500:38:54

-It's been in a cupboard.

-Gosh.

0:38:540:38:58

-No, I'm not into these at all really.

-No.

0:38:580:39:01

-Good luck. Thank you for bringing it.

-Thank you.

-It's going under the hammer.

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163's a Victorian silver claret jug.

0:39:040:39:08

That's a beautiful item.

0:39:080:39:10

Will you start me at £200?

0:39:100:39:12

Start me at 200.

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-200 bid.

-We're off.

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With you, sir, at 200. Any advance on £200?

0:39:170:39:22

Any advance on 200? 210.

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-210 behind you.

-Quite slow, isn't it, Marjorie?

-It is.

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210. With you, sir, at 210.

0:39:300:39:33

Any advance on 210?

0:39:330:39:36

-220.

-Come on.

-230, 240,

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250.

0:39:400:39:42

250.

0:39:420:39:45

260, 270.

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£270.

0:39:480:39:51

270.

0:39:520:39:55

Any advance on £270?

0:39:550:39:59

All done at 270? All done at 270? 270.

0:39:590:40:04

-We didn't get there.

-We didn't quite make it...

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-We'll keep it.

-We were £10 short of that reserve.

-Yes, that's hard luck.

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Anyway, it's a happy ending

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because you were surprised it was going into auction

0:40:110:40:13

-and at least you know its value now.

-That's right.

0:40:130:40:16

Take it home and put a good claret in it.

0:40:160:40:19

That's what I'd do.

0:40:190:40:20

-Jane, this is a wonderful thing.

-Mm-hm.

0:40:260:40:28

-Possibly the nicest thing in the auction.

-That's very nice.

0:40:280:40:30

It's a cold-painted bronze, it's the monkey riding a greyhound as a letter holder

0:40:300:40:34

and James Lewis beat me to this at the valuation day.

0:40:340:40:37

You zoomed in on it, you focused it, you grabbed it.

0:40:370:40:41

-First time for everything, I suppose.

-It's good, isn't it?

-I love it, I love it.

0:40:410:40:45

I've just got to ask, why, why, why are you selling this?

0:40:450:40:50

Well, I've been used to it all my life, I've got really sort of used to it, and now I've inherited it

0:40:500:40:55

-I find I don't use it and you know you get used to it...

-You don't have to use it, just look at it!

0:40:550:40:59

I'm not looking at it, it's tucked away in a desk and it's lost its wow factor for me...

0:40:590:41:04

-Yeah.

-Because I've known it, literally, all my life.

0:41:040:41:06

-It's so good and it's so quirky and I've not seen this one before.

-No.

0:41:060:41:10

Let's find out, shall we?

0:41:100:41:12

Lot 523 is this superb cold-painted bronze letter holder

0:41:120:41:18

depicting a monkey sat upon a greyhound.

0:41:180:41:22

-Start me at 200.

-Right, we're in.

0:41:220:41:24

200 bid. With you, sir, at 200.

0:41:240:41:27

Any advance on 200?

0:41:270:41:30

220, 240, 260,

0:41:300:41:33

280, 300,

0:41:330:41:36

320, 340,

0:41:360:41:38

360, 380,

0:41:380:41:41

400, 420,

0:41:410:41:43

440, 460, 480...

0:41:430:41:47

It's down to two people in the room.

0:41:470:41:50

Isn't it, yeah.

0:41:500:41:52

520, 540,

0:41:520:41:54

560,

0:41:540:41:57

580,

0:41:570:41:59

600, 620,

0:41:590:42:03

640, 660.

0:42:030:42:07

-She's good. It's so rare.

-680.

0:42:070:42:10

-£680.

-Good gracious.

0:42:100:42:14

680.

0:42:140:42:15

Any advance on £680?

0:42:150:42:19

All done at 680? All done at 680? 680.

0:42:190:42:23

Yes.

0:42:240:42:25

Slowly, slowly catch the monkey there.

0:42:250:42:27

-Anita worked that one out.

-She did.

-£680, Jane.

0:42:270:42:31

-I can't believe that.

-Ooh.

0:42:310:42:34

After commission there's still a lot.

0:42:340:42:36

It's a lot of money for something I had sitting in a corner.

0:42:360:42:39

What are you going to put it towards?

0:42:390:42:41

-Well, we are off to Canada...

-Oh, are you?

0:42:410:42:43

..in a couple of weeks time so it'll provide a nice little bit of spending money.

0:42:430:42:47

-But there may be a new digital camera in the offing as well, you never know.

-Oh, good. Snap away.

0:42:470:42:52

I could see that on your desk in your office in your auction room.

0:42:520:42:55

So could I.

0:42:550:42:57

-But you're not having it.

-No, I know.

0:42:570:43:00

We've had a brilliant day here and it's all been down to Jane and James.

0:43:000:43:04

-Thank you.

-I hope you've enjoyed the show. I've loved being in Scotland and can't wait to come back.

0:43:040:43:08

So, until the next time, cheerio.

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