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We're in the northwest of England in a city famous for its textiles,

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its Premier League football club and for featuring in the lyrics of a Beatles' song, A Day In The Life.

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A very big welcome to a day in the life of "Flog It!" from Blackburn.

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The Lancashire town of Blackburn is located just 20 miles northwest of Manchester.

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A former mill town, it was amongst the first to be industrialised in the world.

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After a period of decline, the centre is currently receiving a multi-million pound investment

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thanks, in no small part, to its football heritage, which is still big today.

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The majority of Blackburn Rovers' footballing success was pre 1930s.

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The Premier League club is now based here, at Ewood Park stadium

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with a capacity crowd of 30,000 cheering supporters.

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The club's done a lot in recent years to promote the popularity of the town

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by winning the Premier League in 1995 and the League Cup in 2002.

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And talking of sporting successes, later on in the show

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I'll be taking a closer look at these fellas, the whippet,

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famous for hailing from the north of England.

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And helping us kick off proceedings today are our two experts, Adam Partridge and Michael Baggott.

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They'll be looking at items in the queue,

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picking the best ones, and we'll be putting them into auction later on in the show.

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Quite a healthy queue is gathering here

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outside our venue today, King George's Hall, and by my reckoning it's now 9.30.

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Time to get the doors open and get the show on the road.

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What are we going to do?

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-Flog It!

-Flog It!

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And as the crowds flood in, it looks like Adam wants to play toy trains.

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-Ken, how are you doing today?

-I'm fine, thank you.

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Good. So I'm presuming that you've had this for quite a while.

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-Yes, it was a Christmas present in 1953.

-Really?

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And you were a small boy, then?

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-I would be eight, then.

-You were eight.

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How was it unwrapping this as an eight year old?

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Difficult to remember. I'm sure I was pretty excited.

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-I bet you were.

-I had a clockwork train before this, but to get an electric train was quite something.

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Yeah, and these were quite popular then, weren't they, in the 50s?

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Oh, yes, yeah, yeah. I've got the catalogue here

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with all the information. That's the original one...

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-The original leaflet.

-This was 98 and sixpence. 98 shillings and sixpence.

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What does that equate to?

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-£4.92½ pence...

-Right.

-I would say.

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So it wasn't cheap then, was it?

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About half an average wage, I would say.

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Would it? Goodness me. When was the last time you played with it?

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I got it out yesterday to see if it worked and it did.

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A bit of oil on the engine and then it was fine.

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Really? So they don't make things that like they used to, as they say.

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I took it out about 30 years ago to see if my children would be interested,

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I've three boys, but none of them were into trains.

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-They preferred the Scalextric.

-Right.

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I see you've got a certificate as well, Ken.

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Oh, yes! So, this says that I joined the Hornby Railway Company in 1954,

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so that would be a couple of months after I bought the train.

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-You paid 10 pence, got a badge and were a member of the Railway Company.

-Excellent.

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-So you've got the Hornby Dublo electric train...

-Yeah.

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-..boxed with some accessories.

-Yes.

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So in 1953 value was?

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-98/6d.

-Yeah.

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-Yeah.

-2009 value?

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I don't know.

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-£50, I hope.

-I think you're along the right lines.

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£50 to £80, something like that.

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-Yeah.

-Shall we put a reserve on it at £50?

-That sounds great.

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If it doesn't make that then you may end up having it back again.

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-Running it around again!

-Yeah!

-Yeah. OK, then.

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-Well, let's hope for the best.

-I hope so.

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-Thanks very much.

-Thanks a lot.

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John, Rosalind, thank you for bringing this very impressive vase along.

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Can you tell me firstly what you know about it?

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-Susie Cooper.

-Susie Cooper.

-Susie Cooper, straight away!

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-Yeah.

-Where did it come from, is it something you've bought recently or...?

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-No, a friend of mine gave it to me about 20 years ago.

-Oh, what a lovely friend!

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-Yes.

-Because 20 years ago it wasn't everybody's taste...

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-No, no.

-To have a vase like this. Quite the reverse.

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We're going to turn it over because I'm just taking it on trust for the moment.

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There we go, Susie Cooper, England,

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you can't get much better than that, scratched into the base of the pot.

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This would have been made in about 1932,

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slightly later than that, 1934.

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That's when this eggshell finish started to come in and was used in the Stoke potteries.

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You see Keith Murray working for Wedgwood and designing, producing these finishes.

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You also see it at the other art potteries,

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at Ruskin and Pilkington's. They bring in this very austere,

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to our eyes now, austere single eggshell glaze.

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But the joy of this is all the incised decorations.

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And in an Art Deco interior that's going to have a lot of impact.

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-But it's lovely and we've got squirrels.

-Squirrels.

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-And they're red squirrels, not grey squirrels.

-I thought they were blue!

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Blue squirrels, but they're blue red squirrels,

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if that makes any sense. They're cavorting around.

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It's got a tremendous sense of fun,

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a tremendous sense of design to it, so it works in many levels.

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-Why have you decided to get rid of it after 20 years?

-It's not on show now.

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-It's not on show.

-Doesn't fit in with the...

-That's right.

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-It's worth more than 50 bob...

-We're frightened of it getting broke!

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-Worth more than 50 bob, is it?

-She thinks so!

-I'm lowering my valuations now.

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So, I can't say 49 bob for it, you wouldn't...? No.

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Well, I think it's probably going to be worth, in today's market,

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£300 to £500, but we'd protect it with a fixed reserve of 300,

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so hopefully that doesn't confound your expectations.

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-It's more than 50 bob, isn't it?

-It is.

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So if you're happy we'll put the vase in to the auction

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and hope that some squirrel enthusiasts with a penchant for 1930s' art pottery...

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Somebody with plenty of nuts!

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Two nutters and we'll be away at the sale. No...

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-We hope so!

-Thank you very much.

-Thank you.

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And just take a look at what I've spotted in the crowd, something really unusual!

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-I like this, I gravitated toward this...

-You did.

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-Who am I talking to?

-Mandy, and this is my daughter Rebecca.

-Hi, Paul.

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Right, well, let's talk about this whale vertebra because...

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-it's great, it's a piece of sculpture.

-It is.

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There's a lot of people thinking I'm not keen on natural history objects.

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-You know, it's cruel, but let's face it, that was killed in the 19th century.

-Yeah.

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And that's been an educational tool for Victorian families for a long, long time.

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So, how did you come by it?

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-I bought it at a car boot sale.

-Recently?

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-About five years ago.

-OK, five years. Can I ask how much you paid for it?

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-65.

-65, OK.

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OK. Well, what do you think of this?

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I think it's brilliant. I mean, obviously people...

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It's a sort of wild thing, isn't it?

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It's like Marmite, you either love it or hate it, don't you? Yeah.

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Exactly. I bet I know where this has been, actually.

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If you've got a small house and you've got an open fireplace

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-that doesn't work, you put that in the fireplace.

-Yeah.

-It's a good space for it.

-It is.

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It's fantastic. That's what it should be used for.

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-It's a piece of sculpture now.

-It is, yeah.

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But, do you know, when it's up this high and you can walk around and you view sculpture from every angle,

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it's like being in Barbara Hepworth's Sculpture Garden down in St Ives.

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You can understand shape and form and can see different things

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from different angles, different shadows.

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-Yeah.

-That's the quality of good sculpture. This has it.

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This has it, although, you know, nobody made this.

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You know, God made this animal!

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But I love it, I think it's great.

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And I know the auctioneer is going to pick me up on this and have a go at me.

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He's going to say, "What have you brought to my saleroom!"

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But if we put this into auction, I think we put it in with a valuation of... What did you pay for it?

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-65.

-We put it in at 65.

-Yeah.

-With a valuation of £65 to £100.

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-Right.

-We'll get your money back and hopefully we'll get the top end of my valuation.

-Excellent.

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-A little bit more on a good day.

-Fantastic.

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-Happy?

-Yes, happy with that.

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But I can't wait to see the auctioneer's face with this one.

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Norma, how are you today?

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-I'm fine, thank you.

-Good. Now, where did you get this little piggy from?

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It belonged to my mother-in-law...

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-Right.

-And she bought it at a jumble sale.

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Never!

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-Really?

-Yes.

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-How long ago?

-About four years ago.

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No! How much was it?

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-50p.

-She bought it because she liked it or because she knew it was Wemyss Ware?

-Because she liked it.

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-Really? That's the best reason to buy something.

-Yes.

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So, has she passed it on to you or...?

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No, it's still my mother-in-law's.

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-Do you know anything about it yourself?

-Not really, no.

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So you brought it along to "Flog It!" to see if it's owt or nowt.

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-Yes.

-OK. Well, it's... It's owt!

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Hmm. Good!

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-It's a good thing.

-Yeah.

-It's a Wemyss pig, made in Scotland.

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-Right.

-Wemyss was started at the end of the 19th century.

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They made loads of pigs with varying designs.

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-This one has obviously got your shamrock design on it.

-Yeah, yeah.

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And very collectable things in their own right. And it's always clearly marked.

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There you've got the Wemyss stamp

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and this oval printed mark is the retailer's, Thomas Goode & Co.

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who were a firm in London that retailed all the Wemyss pottery.

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We've got a good markings on it and the condition appears to be excellent as well,

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which is also quite unusual because these are very prone to damage, particularly around the ears.

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-Yeah.

-And the trotters.

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-Yeah.

-So, she's selling it because?

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Well, she has a lot of pottery and a lot of things, so she's just selling it...

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OK, it's just one ornament out of many on the shelf.

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-Yeah. Yes, it is, yeah.

-So any idea what it's worth?

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I have no idea really, no.

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Well, Wemyss is pretty highly prized at auction.

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If I was to be very realistic I'd put £200 to £300, but I think...

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-Really, I think it'll make more than that.

-Yeah.

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-Brilliant.

-How does that sound?

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-Fantastic.

-Yeah?

-Yeah.

-Good, she's smiling! Yeah, excellent.

-Yeah.

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Well, I would say we put a reserve on it, £200 fixed,

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-so whatever happens it shouldn't sell for less.

-Right.

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Do you think there'll be a little bit for Norma for bringing it along?

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-Maybe, maybe.

-Let's hope so.

-I hope so.

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-Well, let's hope she's watching.

-I know.

-What's her name?

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-Olive.

-Olive. Hi, Olive.

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Nice pig, good find.

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See you at the auction. Thanks.

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We've found our first items to take to auction. This is where it gets exciting

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because we're about to put those valuations to the test.

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So while we make our way over to the auction room, here's a quick rundown of what's going under the hammer.

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A gift from a friend 20 years ago, Rosalind and John know they have a rather special piece of pottery.

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Can you tell me firstly what you know about it?

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-Susie Cooper.

-Susie Cooper.

-Susie Cooper, straight away!

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Ken received his Hornby train set in the 1950s, but will it pull in a good price in the saleroom?

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And this whale bone wasn't found at the bottom of the ocean, but unbelievably at a car boot sale!

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Adam can't believe that Norma's mother-in-law found this Wemyss pig in such a humble location.

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-She bought it at a jumble sale.

-Never!

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-How long ago?

-About four years ago.

-No! How much was it?

-50p.

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Now, surely we should be able to make a profit on that lot!

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For the time being we're leaving Blackburn behind

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and heading north to Halifax, the location of today's auction.

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In charge of the proceedings is Ian Peace.

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I'm keen to find out what he makes of our Susie Cooper vase.

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A big name in studio pottery, Susie Cooper.

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We've got £300 to £500 on this and it belongs to Rosalind and Ian.

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A good size, a good pattern, a squirrel pattern.

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My only reservation is that... Two things,

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-it's plain...

-It is for Susie Cooper, isn't it?

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Yes, it is. And in this region Susie Cooper's slightly waned.

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-Has it?

-Yes.

-We've got £300 to £500 riding on this. Will it do it?

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I believe...

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this may struggle because in the last week

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the vendors have phoned me and pushed the reserve up by £50.

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-Have they?

-Yeah.

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Why... Why did they do that, because it's not a lot more money, is it?

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I know. I did advise them to leave it where it was.

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I explained that Susie Cooper has slightly levelled out in this area,

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but they...they are adamant. But it's a good size

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and I will give it my best shot and I've assured them I will.

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So, will this popular name get a bumpy ride?

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Find out in a few minutes' time. First up is the Hornby train set.

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Moving along nicely, we're on the right tracks, it belongs to Ken

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and we've got a value of around £50 to £80, which I think is pretty good.

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Hopefully, we'll get that top end, Adam.

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-But this was a Christmas present in 1953.

-It was, yes.

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Paint the picture! Can you remember?

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Not exactly, no, but I built it up over the years after that.

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-It's not been played with for over 50 years.

-And the kids don't want this?

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My three boys were all interested in something more competitive. Not really interested in trains.

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-My grandchildren are all girls, so it's been in the loft for a long time.

-So it's time to go.

-Oh, yes.

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Bring it along to a valuation day, if you've anything like that we want to see it.

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478, a Hornby Dublo boxed train set.

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478 is the lot. Who'd like to open me at £50 for this lot? 40, then?

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40? 30? £30 I'm bid. £30. And five.

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At 35. 40. £40. At 45 there.

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45. Do I make it 50? At £45. 50. Gentleman right at the back at 50.

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Five anywhere? At £50.

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Are you all done at £50?

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All finished at 50? At £50 then, back of the room.

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-Well, done.

-Right.

-£50, so it's OK.

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-That's fine.

-It's gone.

-One less box to go in the loft!

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Exactly!

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Rosalind and John, great to see you.

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We've got the Susie Cooper vase which Michael's valued at £300 to £500.

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I know you've had a chat with Ian the auctioneer and upped the reserve slightly, another £50.

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We had a chat about that.

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I do feel... Ian has sort of suggested, the auctioneer has suggested,

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that it might just frighten the bidders off and you might be stuck with it, just might be.

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But you don't know. This is an auction, anything can happen.

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We need two people to love this and it could still do the top end.

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There we are, a good-looking piece there. 514 is the lot.

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Right, open me at 300. I have £200 to start on it. £200.

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At £200. At £200. At 220. At 240.

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At £240.

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Any further bids? At £240?

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At £240. Are we quite finished at 240?

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Susie Cooper vase, we're not quite there at 240. Are you all done?

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A great name in studio pottery, but it's not doing it here today.

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He said it has peaked in this area,

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all his collector's don't seem to want Susie Cooper any more.

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-It didn't matter about the 50 quid.

-No.

-I said it wouldn't.

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-No, you...

-I didn't mean it that way!

-No, you didn't!

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I think, in retrospect people will look back at this auction

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in a couple of months' time and think, "I should have bought that vase."

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That really was disappointing, but let's see how we get on

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with our next lot, another piece of pottery with a popular name.

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Now we've got a little Wemyss pig going under the hammer

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and I've just been joined by Norma and Adam, our expert. We've got £200 to £300 on this.

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We've seen Wemyss do well before. They're an old "Flog It!" favourite.

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They're so collectable, especially little pigs.

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Yeah. It's nice with shamrocks.

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Let's find out what the bidders think. Here we go.

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The Wemyss model of a pig and may I say 150?

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I'm opening this at £100.

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The Wemyss pig at 100. I have £100.

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120. 120. 140. At £140.

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At 140. 160. At 180 here. £180.

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-The Wemyss pig at 180. At £200.

-Yes!

-Gentleman at the back of the room.

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I have £200. We're in the market.

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210 if you like. With...

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At £200. The gentleman's bid at the back of the room at 200.

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Any further bids for the Wemyss pig?

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First and last time.

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Well, it's gone. £200, Norma.

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It was a bit deflated towards the end, wasn't it?

0:17:510:17:53

-Expecting that top end.

-Yeah.

-Yes.

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-But it's gone.

-Good.

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I guess only one person wanted a piece of Wemyss today.

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If somebody else had pushed that bidder it would have gone up.

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-Yeah. Shame.

-Got to be happy, though.

-Yeah.

0:18:030:18:05

-It was within estimate.

-Yeah.

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Can you remember that whale vertebrae?

0:18:120:18:14

It's about to go under the hammer and I'm joined by Mandy, its present owner.

0:18:140:18:18

-I'm saying present because I'm hoping it's going to sell well today.

-Yeah.

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I can remember the valuation day saying, "I can't wait to see the auctioneer's face

0:18:220:18:26

"when he sees this and unwraps the bubble wrap from the courier and goes..."

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And he did and Ian's face was a picture when I saw him this morning.

0:18:300:18:34

He said, "I knew that was you, I knew you'd picked that!"

0:18:340:18:37

-Yeah.

-But he didn't give any clues away, so it's fingers crossed.

-Yeah.

0:18:370:18:41

We've pitched it to sell, haven't we?

0:18:410:18:43

-Yes.

-£65 to £100.

-Yes.

-Something like that. I'm just wondering what this lot will make of it.

0:18:430:18:48

Well, we're going to find out right now. Good luck. Here we go.

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466 is the whale bone vertebra sculpture on stand.

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-There we are.

-And I think it looks fab, I really do.

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In fact, I'm opening this at £40.

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And five. 50. And five. 60.

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And five. At £65.

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At 65. And 70. And five.

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80.

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And five.

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90. And five.

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100.

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And five.

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-110.

-Brilliant.

-Yeah.

0:19:240:19:27

-A bit of competition in the room.

-Yeah.

-£115. On my right, 115.

0:19:270:19:30

Are we...

0:19:300:19:32

-115. Brilliant, Mandy. That top end of the estimate.

-Yes.

0:19:320:19:36

-That's good.

-Very good.

-Pleased?

-Yeah, I am.

0:19:360:19:38

I was a bit dubious to start with, but it's gone!

0:19:380:19:41

I'm sure that's gone to a collector.

0:19:410:19:43

And later on in the show we find something that excites Michael.

0:19:460:19:49

You've made my day today by bringing in this wonderful children's book.

0:19:490:19:55

But will we see tears of sadness or tears of joy?

0:19:550:19:58

Oh, there's a tear in your eye now, isn't there?

0:19:580:20:01

Right now I'm going to meet some canines that have got a wonderful, interesting past.

0:20:020:20:07

Let's check it out.

0:20:070:20:09

The British coal industry has certainly had a chequered past.

0:20:120:20:16

This colliery here at Astley Green, in South Lancashire, was once part

0:20:160:20:20

of a thriving community, but with changes in demand for British coal

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it was inevitable this place went to the dogs and closed in 1970. But today the dogs are back.

0:20:240:20:31

Come on, fellas! Come over here!

0:20:310:20:33

Look at these lovely whippets.

0:20:330:20:35

You're probably thinking, "What have these dogs got to do with coal mining?"

0:20:350:20:39

You're about to find out.

0:20:390:20:41

Dogs belonging to the greyhound group have often been bred along pure lines

0:20:410:20:45

and have been associated with the aristocracy and gentry.

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But the one exception is the small English greyhound known as the whippet.

0:20:480:20:53

Although some mystery surrounds the origin of the breed, it's generally accepted that it's a cross

0:20:530:20:58

between the greyhound and a terrier, giving the breed a great combination of speed and intelligence.

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It was first recognised by the Kennel Club in 1890.

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And here's the connection. The whippet became the pet mostly preferred by the working classes.

0:21:120:21:17

The mill workers and the miners loved to race their dogs

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in their spare time and of course they could catch the odd rabbit or two.

0:21:200:21:24

And it's because of this the breed became known as the poor man's greyhound or racehorse.

0:21:240:21:29

It's fair to say, whippet racing has been on the decline in recent years.

0:21:290:21:33

At one point there were around 70 clubs in the country, today there's about 20.

0:21:330:21:38

This is one of them, the Astley & Tyldesley Miners' Whippet and Dog Racing Club.

0:21:380:21:43

I tell you what, it's doing rather well.

0:21:430:21:45

Keith Woodward is the club chairman. It's partly down to him that this group is still thriving.

0:21:490:21:54

Keith, great to meet you and I can't wait to see the dogs later and see what they do.

0:21:560:22:01

-Yeah.

-I bet they're fast! Tell me a little bit about whippet racing, a little bit about the history.

0:22:010:22:06

Well, the history goes back to 1860 or so and everybody turned up and there might be 10, 12 dogs in a race.

0:22:060:22:13

-Yeah.

-And the first past the post was the winner. They came in all shapes and sizes.

0:22:130:22:17

-Really?

-Everything was called a whippet even if it was a collie or something else!

0:22:170:22:22

-And then late 20s, early 30s with what they call tape racing.

-Yeah.

0:22:220:22:27

-Which they put five lanes down by elastic tape with wooden stumps...

-Yeah.

0:22:270:22:32

-And the dogs had to stay in that lane.

-Right.

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If a dog jumped over into the next lane

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it was automatically disqualified and the race was rerun without it.

0:22:380:22:42

In the summer the dogs are raced on a straight grass track of 150 yards, whereas in winter,

0:22:430:22:50

when the ground is too hard the dogs are raced on an oval sand track

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commonly referred to as "racing on the bends".

0:22:540:22:57

-Actually, bend racing is a lot quicker.

-I think it's fun as well.

0:22:570:23:00

You put your dog in the trap, you stand behind the trap,

0:23:000:23:03

-the hare comes round, the dogs run and they near enough finish where they started.

-Yes, exactly.

0:23:030:23:09

240 yards, a good whippet will do 15 seconds.

0:23:120:23:16

Yeah, it's quick, isn't it?

0:23:160:23:18

-Which do you prefer, racing on the straight or the bends?

-Any.

-Any.

-Any kind of whippet racing.

0:23:210:23:26

Vicky Harper and Mark Warren are great whippet-racing fans having just achieved their 20th champion.

0:23:260:23:34

They have an impressive track record.

0:23:340:23:36

Vicky and Mark, I've got to say, with all those champions you've had in the past and currently,

0:23:360:23:42

you must be the envy of a lot of these people here, but we'll keep that quiet, OK?

0:23:420:23:46

How many have you got?

0:23:460:23:48

-We've got 12 at home.

-Really?

-They're just really good pets, aren't they?

-Yeah.

0:23:480:23:53

-Do they live in the house?

-Yeah.

-Do they come on the bed at night?

0:23:530:23:56

-Oh, yeah. Under the duvet.

-Take it in turns?

-No, not all of them!

0:23:560:24:00

-Yeah.

-Not at once.

0:24:000:24:02

So, does it run in the family?

0:24:020:24:04

My granddad, he was an ex-miner, and he started breeding them for racing...

0:24:040:24:11

-Yeah.

-Years ago.

-And my dad's been doing it from 1967, 1968.

-Really?

0:24:110:24:16

-It's in the blood. They're passing the tips on to you.

-That's how we got together.

0:24:160:24:20

-That's how you met?

-Yeah.

-Fantastic. A lovely story.

0:24:200:24:23

How many times a month do you come out here or...? All year round?

0:24:230:24:27

-We come here every week.

-We come here every Wednesday during the summer.

0:24:270:24:31

During the winter we go to Westhoughton greyhound track and race around bends.

0:24:310:24:35

This is just straight racing today?

0:24:350:24:38

-Straight racing.

-And we're going to see some of that.

0:24:380:24:40

Whippet racing now is purely for fun, it's a fun day out,

0:24:400:24:44

unlike greyhound racing where lots of money changes hands.

0:24:440:24:47

-Yeah.

-When did that rule come about, do you know?

0:24:470:24:49

-It was years ago when they did betting with whippet racing, weren't it?

-Yeah.

0:24:490:24:54

There's been no betting for a long time with whippet racing. It's just purely for fun.

0:24:540:24:58

Fun for all the family and a bit of fun for the dogs.

0:24:580:25:01

Do you have to get the dog used to the traps, Mark?

0:25:010:25:03

Yes, you've got to train them.

0:25:030:25:05

You start them off when they're about eight, nine months old and gradually get them trained.

0:25:050:25:11

Because they don't like that to start with, do they?

0:25:110:25:13

-It depends.

-If they're keen on the lure they just take it all in their stride. It doesn't bother them.

0:25:130:25:19

I can feel the tension rising. There's lots more people arriving,

0:25:190:25:23

we're getting surrounded by dogs, should we get your two out?

0:25:230:25:26

We'll meet up with Keith and see what he's got to say about his.

0:25:260:25:31

When not attending competitions, Vicky and Mark are often to be found

0:25:310:25:35

on the edge of the football field, putting the dogs through their paces.

0:25:350:25:39

It's certainly getting exciting. There's four dogs in this race.

0:26:000:26:05

I've got to pick a winner. I think the fairest way to do it

0:26:050:26:07

is to pick one of these bones from this bowl.

0:26:070:26:10

Now, each bone has a name tag on it relating to one of the dogs, so it's going to be a lucky dip for me.

0:26:100:26:16

-I'll probably go for this one, which is Mebs Rosie. Who's Mebs Rosie?

-Me.

0:26:160:26:21

Right, OK, Keith! This is my choice.

0:26:210:26:23

Hello!

0:26:230:26:25

That's a good start, it's got number one on it!

0:26:250:26:28

Right, the dogs are under starters orders and they're off!

0:26:370:26:40

But my dog's not come out of the trap!

0:26:400:26:42

Oh, my goodness, what's happened? Here he is!

0:26:420:26:45

I don't believe it!

0:26:530:26:55

Hey, hey, hey!

0:26:550:26:58

They're trying to throttle the thing they chase!

0:26:580:27:02

Oh, dear!

0:27:020:27:05

Oh, I don't know, guess where I came?

0:27:050:27:08

Last. I can't believe it.

0:27:080:27:10

The trap...

0:27:100:27:12

My trap didn't open!

0:27:120:27:14

Nevertheless, that was so exciting and I can see why all these people

0:27:140:27:18

get together every weekend to race these dogs because it is just great fun.

0:27:180:27:23

There's still plenty of action back at the valuation day

0:27:290:27:32

in Blackburn and time is certainly marching on for Michael.

0:27:320:27:36

-Ian, thank you for bringing in this lovely pocket watch.

-Right.

0:27:360:27:40

What can you tell me? Where's it from?

0:27:400:27:42

I've no idea where it originated, but when my father died about 15 years ago

0:27:420:27:47

it was part of a lot of stuff that was left over in the drawers.

0:27:470:27:51

Oh, right. Was he a watch collector or did he wear a watch at all?

0:27:510:27:56

He collected everything, coins, medals, watches.

0:27:560:28:00

-Anything that interested him, there was a little collection of it.

-Yes.

0:28:000:28:04

Well, this is certainly a lovely watch

0:28:040:28:06

and it's a lovely gentleman's open-face 18-carat-gold pocket watch.

0:28:060:28:12

And if we have a look at the back of the case we should have a full set of hallmarks,

0:28:120:28:16

which we do, and the nice thing there is they're for Chester.

0:28:160:28:21

So we've got the Chester town mark, which is three wheat sheaves and a dagger.

0:28:210:28:26

We've got the date letter, which is a Gothic H which is, let's see...

0:28:260:28:30

-for 1871.

-Good heavens, I didn't know it was that old.

0:28:300:28:34

So it's a good 130 years old.

0:28:340:28:36

Now if we can get into the inner case we might be able to find...

0:28:360:28:39

There we go, there's the movement.

0:28:390:28:42

And it is signed. Some were signed, some weren't.

0:28:420:28:46

If they were workaday watches you wouldn't get a signature.

0:28:460:28:50

But we've got William Batty, Market Street,

0:28:500:28:55

Manchester, so, you know, we're only up the road, really.

0:28:550:28:58

If we close that back up, it has got a very pretty dial

0:28:580:29:03

and it's got the original hands as well.

0:29:030:29:06

The only fault really against it is slight wear to the loop, there,

0:29:060:29:12

where it's been on a watch chain and it's just worn against it,

0:29:120:29:16

and because it's an 18 carat loop if it's on a nine carat swivel

0:29:160:29:22

that's twice as hard, it's got twice as much copper in it. It's a lovely thing.

0:29:220:29:26

So, why have you decided to sell it?

0:29:260:29:28

Well, they're a bit old-fashioned now, aren't they?

0:29:280:29:31

And I don't have a waistcoat and you've got to keep winding them up.

0:29:310:29:36

That's three good reasons!

0:29:360:29:38

Don't say those at the auction, we don't want to put anybody off!

0:29:380:29:41

But I think because it's an 18 carat open-face, we're quite safe

0:29:410:29:45

-at saying a reserve of £150.

-Right.

-And an estimate of 150 to 250.

0:29:450:29:51

-OK.

-If you're happy with that...

-That's right, yes.

0:29:510:29:53

We'll put it into the sale and hope it ticks along to a profit.

0:29:530:29:56

-Thank you very much.

-Thanks for bringing it.

-Thanks a lot.

-Pleasure.

0:29:560:30:00

-Jennifer, welcome to "Flog It!".

-Thank you.

0:30:050:30:08

You've brought along a very interesting antique map here.

0:30:080:30:11

Where did you get that from?

0:30:110:30:13

Just left to me by my father along with many others.

0:30:130:30:17

-Just sat in a barn, so I brought it along.

-Really?

0:30:170:30:20

-So, here we've got the road from Bristol...

-Right.

0:30:200:30:24

-..to west Chester.

-Yes.

0:30:240:30:27

By John Ogilby. Now, Ogilby maps are quite desirable.

0:30:270:30:32

He was his Majesty's cosmographer, a very famous cartographer, mapmaker.

0:30:320:30:39

This will be late 17th century, so...

0:30:390:30:42

-Really?

-Yeah, it'll be just before the date of 1700, so it's been around quite a while.

-Yes.

0:30:420:30:49

Now it isn't obviously Chester itself, it's from the High Cross in Bristol

0:30:490:30:54

to Ault Ferry to Chepstow including the breadth of the river, to Monmouth to Hereford to Ludlow.

0:30:540:31:01

Of course, with something of this age, 300 years old, you're going to get a bit of condition problems.

0:31:010:31:07

Actually, the hand colouring is pretty vivid still...

0:31:070:31:10

-Yes.

-And all you've got is this sort of damp stains and damp spots, etc.

0:31:100:31:14

So, do you like it?

0:31:140:31:16

-Not particularly my thing.

-Really? What's your thing, Jennifer?

0:31:160:31:20

I've got quite a trendy house now, so it doesn't have a place in my home any more.

0:31:200:31:24

-I'm sure somebody will appreciate it.

-You have all modern stuff in your house?

-Yes.

0:31:240:31:29

-And that's why it's come to "Flog It!" today.

-Absolutely, yes.

0:31:290:31:32

-OK. Any idea what it's worth?

-Not a clue.

-Well, I think 150 to 250 would be a sensible estimate.

0:31:320:31:38

-Really? Oh, that's good.

-That was very convincing.

-Oh, that's good.

0:31:380:31:42

-I like that surprise there.

-Can I have the money now?

0:31:420:31:47

There's a very strong market, a lot of collectors of antique maps

0:31:470:31:50

and we get the two right people there we should hit £300.

0:31:500:31:53

-Right, excellent.

-In order to prevent it from underselling I suggest a reserve of 150.

0:31:530:31:57

Right, OK.

0:31:570:31:59

-So if it doesn't make that...

-Take it back to the barn.

0:31:590:32:02

-Yeah. Is the barn damp?

-It's a little bit. Do you think I ought to take better care of it?

0:32:020:32:06

-Find somewhere slightly less damp perhaps to store it.

-Right, OK.

0:32:060:32:10

Now, I know it's not a massive amount of money by today's standards,

0:32:100:32:13

-but if it does go well and makes £300 or more...

-Wow, yes.

0:32:130:32:16

What would you do with that?

0:32:160:32:18

Take my girlfriends to the races. I promised them a day out.

0:32:180:32:22

-That sounds good fun. Which races?

-Chester.

-Chester.

0:32:220:32:25

-Excellent.

-The money's going back to Chester.

0:32:250:32:27

-I might see you there.

-Yeah. Get the champagne in!

0:32:270:32:30

-Cheers, Jennifer.

-OK, thank you very much.

0:32:300:32:33

Marion, you've, I think made my day today by bringing in this wonderful children's book

0:32:390:32:45

-which we can see, is Peter Pan. Have you had this since a child?

-I've had it from childhood.

0:32:450:32:51

It was given to me by two very great and gracious ladies that lived across the way from us.

0:32:510:32:57

And during the war they turned their cellar into bunk beds,

0:32:570:33:03

for a few of the local children in the area, so we could stay all night in the safety.

0:33:030:33:09

And as such, they then gave me a birthday party

0:33:090:33:13

and that was the present they gave me at the birthday party.

0:33:130:33:17

-What a fantastic present.

-Yes.

-I've... I've never had a...

0:33:170:33:20

I don't want to do my parents down, I never had a present like this!

0:33:200:33:23

Like all children's books it has been read and enjoyed and used

0:33:230:33:28

and you can see, here,

0:33:280:33:30

it's had a slit where originally there would have been two silk ties

0:33:300:33:35

-and you can imagine when that's tied and untied that perishes.

-Yes.

0:33:350:33:39

But what we have got is we've got this lovely full vellum binding. So the most expensive way to do it.

0:33:390:33:45

Often you'll just have the spine done and the corners.

0:33:450:33:49

It was that expensive, but they've tooled, in gilt,

0:33:490:33:52

"Peter Pan", and there he is on the back of a...

0:33:520:33:55

of a fairly ferocious looking goat!

0:33:550:33:58

But that's the name we look for, illustrated by Arthur Rackham, who did those wonderful fairies.

0:33:580:34:03

-Oh, yes, yes.

-If we open it up there we have Peter Pan and what wonderful quality paper.

-Yes, yeah.

0:34:030:34:09

This, when it was produced, was the luxury edition, so you were a very wealthy and privileged little child

0:34:090:34:17

to get this. And that's wonderful.

0:34:170:34:20

"This edition is limited to 500 copies, numbered and signed

0:34:200:34:25

-"by the artist, of which this is number 111," so it's quite a low number.

-Yes, it's quite an early one.

0:34:250:34:31

And we've got Arthur Rackham's signature, there.

0:34:310:34:34

I think now people are beginning to regard his work less as children's illustrations and more as...

0:34:340:34:39

It was good skilful draughtsmanship. It's exquisite.

0:34:390:34:43

-Carried away by the winds.

-Is that with the balloons? Yes.

0:34:430:34:47

-With the balloons. The balloon seller being taken away.

-Yes, that's it.

0:34:470:34:51

Crikey, I wouldn't want to part with this if this were mine.

0:34:510:34:54

Why now have you decided to part with this lovely book?

0:34:540:34:57

Well, there's... There's nobody...

0:34:570:34:59

I've got nobody that would appreciate the quality of that book.

0:34:590:35:02

It would just be another book...

0:35:020:35:05

-Another book.

-..as far as they were concerned.

0:35:050:35:07

And I'd like it to remain as a book by someone who would appreciate it.

0:35:070:35:11

Well, I think it's a children's book collector's dream...

0:35:110:35:15

-I would think so.

-Really. I mean, it is the luxury edition.

0:35:150:35:19

There are a few faults.

0:35:190:35:21

There's a little bit of wear to the gilt edging and the covers

0:35:210:35:25

have started to bow slightly, but I don't think they're major faults.

0:35:250:35:29

Well, it's 100 and odd years.

0:35:290:35:31

Well, 105 years going on for.

0:35:310:35:36

Question of value.

0:35:360:35:37

-Yes.

-Any idea what it might be worth?

0:35:370:35:40

No, no.

0:35:400:35:42

-I think we would be sensible to put it into auction with an attractive estimate of say £400 to £600.

-Yes.

0:35:420:35:49

We'll put a fixed reserve of £400 on it...

0:35:490:35:52

-Yes, yes, yes.

-..without question.

0:35:520:35:54

And if two people really got behind it,

0:35:540:35:57

who knows? We might be touching the four figures, but...

0:35:570:36:01

-That would be nice.

-That would be if Peter was flying overhead...

0:36:010:36:04

-Yes, yes, yes.

-..wishing us luck.

0:36:040:36:07

-We'll put it into the auction and hopefully it will fly away on the day.

-Lovely, lovely.

0:36:070:36:12

-Thank you very much indeed.

-You've made my day.

-Good. Thank you.

0:36:120:36:16

It's time to return to the auction room and here's what we're taking with us.

0:36:180:36:22

Ian is in no doubt as to why he wants to sell his father's old pocket watch.

0:36:220:36:27

They're a bit old-fashioned. I don't have a waistcoat

0:36:270:36:30

-and you've got to keep winding them up.

-That's three good reasons!

0:36:300:36:33

Jennifer has found her way to us with her father's antique map,

0:36:350:36:38

but can she find a new owner in the saleroom?

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And, finally, Marion has brought in a very special copy of Peter Pan

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given to her as a birthday present, as a child.

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She now wants it to fly away to a new home.

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Before we see the last of today's items sold

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I want to know if auctioneer, Ian, shares my enthusiasm for Marion's Peter Pan book.

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I absolutely love this.

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The condition is fantastic, apart from a tiny bit of foxing.

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It's Peter Pan by Barrie, but it's illustrated by Arthur Rackham who is fetching big money in his own right.

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It's been signed by the illustrator.

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Marion's had this since she was a little girl, it was a birthday present.

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We've got 400 to 600 riding on this. I could see this doubling that.

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Yeah. I was very excited when I saw this come in because I've sold them over the years,

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but they come up very rarely and, as you say, the condition is wonderful,

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the illustrations are vivid, hand cut pages, everything about it's nice.

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-It's complete as well.

-Yeah. a marvellous long-term investment.

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Has there been much interest?

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I think the buyers are playing their cards very close to their chests

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and I think there is interest.

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-It's illustrated well on the internet.

-OK, fingers crossed, then.

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Fingers crossed for twice the top end, that's what I'd like to see.

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I know I'm tempting fate, but I think it's worth it, I really do.

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We'll find out how the book gets on in a little while, but next under the hammer is Michael's other find.

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Ian, there should be some local interest. We've got the open-faced pocket watch, made in Manchester.

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-It's not too far away, is it?

-No.

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And we're looking at £150 to £200, put on by Michael, our expert.

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I think that's a "run and buy me" estimate!

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I hope so. I was going to say time is up for your watch, because this one is not going home with you.

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And what am I bid for this? £100 to open the bidding. £100.

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At £100. Thank you. 110. 110.

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110. £110. 110. 120.

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-130. 140. 150. 160. 170.

-Yes, they're getting stuck in now.

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-Yeah.

-190. 200. And 10.

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-Quality always sells.

-230. 240. 250.

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-260, sir. 270. 270 to the right.

-Smashed through the top.

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-You did.

-290. 300.

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This is fantastic, Ian.

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-Yeah, it is.

-320. 330. 340. 350.

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-360. 370. 380. 390. 400.

-Wow!

-Very hard to find!

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In the blue jacket at £400.

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Any further bids at 400?

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Ian's ever so happy, £400!

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-Your dad had a fabulous eye, didn't he?

-Brilliant.

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-Pretty good.

-Yeah! There is commission to pay.

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What will you put the money towards?

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Probably half it up the middle with my brother...

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-Right.

-..part of the settlements.

-Yeah.

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And I may invest it in a decent wristwatch.

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That's quite nice, you think of dad!

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-Yeah.

-Yeah, do that.

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I've been joined by Jennifer who wants to get smartened up and go to the races at Chester.

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-I think you look perfect for the races now!

-Oh, thank you.

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But we're in the Calder Valley so unfortunately that's got to wait.

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We're going to put the antique map up with Adam's value of 150 to 250

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and hopefully that will get you to Chester.

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-And a couple of bottles of champagne.

-Got to do it in style, haven't you?

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-Let's find out what the bidders think. Good luck.

-Oh, thank you.

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Illustrating the road from Bristol to Chester.

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Lot 611 is the lot. Right, who'd like to open me at £100?

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100? 90?

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£80 anywhere?

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70, thank you, £70. At 80 anywhere?

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At £70. At 70.

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At £70. Do I see 80?

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-At £70. No? There's no further bids.

-I don't believe it!

-Oh, never mind.

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Early road maps like this should make 200 quid at least.

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I can't believe that, Bristol to Chester.

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-I think...

-Never mind.

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Hey, look, nobody here wanted something from Bristol to Chester.

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You've got to put it in a saleroom on that route somewhere, or take it to Chester

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-or down to Bristol.

-Yeah.

-Or hang on to it.

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I'll hang on to it. Back in the barn.

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-Hang on to it, Jennifer. It's like Paul says, it's worth 200 quid.

-I know.

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We all dream of a fairytale ending, don't we?

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Could it be this time for Marion, hey, with that wonderful book,

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the Peter Pan book illustrated by Arthur Rackham?

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We've got £400 to £600 on this.

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I had a chat to the auctioneer earlier, you know what he said.

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-Michael was spot-on with the valuation.

-Well, done.

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And we think, Michael, the signature will help this soar through.

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I think being signed, being an early edition out of the 500...

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-111, wasn't it?

-111. That all helps.

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But all credit to you for looking after it.

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Honestly, the condition is fantastic and that's what the collectors will love. Fingers crossed.

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It's going under the hammer right now.

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Let's hope we burst through the top end. Here it is.

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The Peter Pan In Kensington Gardens with drawings by Arthur Rackham.

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-It's a signed limited edition.

-It's wonderful.

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Absolutely brilliant. Ever so excited about this.

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Lovely example there and what am I bid?

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As an opening bid shall we say £300?

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I'm opening this at £200. £200.

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225. 250. 250. 275. I've 300 here.

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325. 350. 350.

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-375...

-He's got a commission bid left on the book, he's looking down.

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425. 450. 475. 500.

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And 25. 550. 575.

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At 575. And 600, madam. £600. 625.

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-They've travelled specially, haven't they, today?

-675. 700.

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And 25. 750. 75.

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800. And 25.

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-Oh, dear. Oh, dear!

-Oh, dear!

-850.

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875. 900. And 25. 950. 975. 1,000.

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And 25. 1,025.

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This is exciting!

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Are you all done at 1,025 for Peter Pan?

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First and last time.

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£1,025!

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-Very exciting!

-Marion, fantastic.

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-What a lot of money.

-That was exciting!

-Well, done!

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-It was worth every penny.

-Oh, it was very nice, wasn't it?

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-There's a tear in your eye now.

-Oh, yeah!

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You wanted to see it through to the end. You've got a wonderful happy ending.

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-What are you putting the money towards?

-I haven't thought about that!

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Well, take your time, won't you?

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-Yes.

-There's plenty to spend it on.

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And that brings us to a very happy ending here in the Calder Valley.

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I hope you've enjoyed today's show.

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All credit to our experts and I think Marion is going home ever so happy.

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Join us next time for more surprises. Until then, it's cheerio.

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