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Today we've come to one of the most mysterious counties in England, | 0:00:01 | 0:00:05 | |
where stone circles befuddle, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
crops circles confuse and strange giant white horses | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
gallop across the hills. Yes, today, Flog It! has come to Wiltshire. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:15 | |
The white horses of Wiltshire are giants carved into the chalky hills. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
Many of the carvings are only a few hundred years old, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
although the origin of most of them remains a mystery. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Now, the white horse you can see cut into the chalk hill | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
over there behind me, that's the oldest in the county. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
It was cut over 300 years ago, but in the mid 18th century, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
the steward to Lord Abingdon, who owns all of this land around, | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
re-cut the horse because he thought the old one didn't look lifelike | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
and it was also facing in a different direction | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
and the name of the steward that cut that, what we're looking at today, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
well, he was called Mr G Gee. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:11 | |
How unbelievable is that! | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Under starter's orders are Warminster Assembly Rooms in Wiltshire today | 0:01:14 | 0:01:20 | |
are experts David Fletcher and Kate Bliss, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
and they'll be leading our valuers finding the best items to take off to auction. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Kate has been around antiques since she was a toddler, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
so spotting those gems should be child's play, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
and David's got a heart of gold - in fact, the first item David ever sold | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
as an auctioneer was a live rabbit, | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
but with no bidders, he took pity on it and bought it himself. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
They were both happy bunnies! | 0:01:43 | 0:01:45 | |
'It is always good to see the fans turn up at one of our valuation days | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
'although some fans are bigger than others!' | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
And coming up on today's show, Joel and Pauline raise the stakes at auction. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
Since that valuation day, you've upped the reserve to £130. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
-We have, yes. -Why did you do that? | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
-Honestly? -Yeah, go on! -I had a bigger offer. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
You had a better offer. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:08 | |
And auctioneer Alan will go to any length to sell Phyllis's painting. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
Couple of hundred quid? 150? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
They're all sitting on their hands! | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
And if anybody says a tenner, I'll throw the gavel at them! | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
But will it work? Find out later in the show. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
As the crowd settle into their seats, it looks like David is saddling up with his first item. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
Now, did you ever work in the circus yourself? | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
No, I've never worked in the circus, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
but we have been circus clowns in the carnival. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
OK. Who is we? | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
-My sister Avril and me. -Your sister and you? OK, you're a double act! | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
Yes, we're a double act. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:48 | |
I love this. It's a good bit of fun, isn't it, really? | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Amazingly colourful, I mean, that's what first struck me about it | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
when I saw it across the room earlier on. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
As we can see, this is encouraging us | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
to book tickets for the Belle Vue Circus. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
Now, I understand that the location was a permanent location and | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
that the circus appeared there every winter | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
and that is confirmed, really, by what it says at the bottom - | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
the winter season. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
Now, as such, I would take it that this | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
was a permanent poster and probably in position | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
somewhere within the Belle Vue complex all the year round, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
which may explain why it's in such good condition. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
It wasn't taken up and put down and wheeled out in all weathers | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
and the condition really is very good. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
The frame has been repainted, but apart from that, it's fine. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
I would have thought that it dated from the 1950s, possibly 1960s. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:45 | |
Did you acquire it fairly recently? | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
My late husband bought it at a car-boot sale about 20 years ago. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:53 | |
And paid next to nothing for it, I daresay? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
Two or three pounds, I think. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
Good for him, and where did you have it in the house? | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
I'm afraid it's been in the loft for the last 20-odd years. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
-Right, so you haven't been enjoying it? -No, I haven't. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-But what a lovely conversation piece it would have been! -Well, yeah. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
Never mind. I mean, we would be delighted to sell it for you. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
I would like to think this will make over £100. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
Oh, right, OK. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
With luck, a bit more, but I've never seen anything quite like this before, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
so I'm going to be a little bit cautious | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
and I think I'll suggest an estimate of 60 to 100 | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
and a fixed reserve of 50. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
-Are you happy with that? -Yes, very happy, thank you. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Good, OK, we'll go ahead on that basis. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-Thank you. -And roll up, roll up at the auction sale. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
While Sally says goodbye to the fun of the circus, I'm saying hello | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
to Joel and Pauline who have brought in a little plate that's worth investigating. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
So tell me, where did you come by this? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
All we can remember is that we bought a box | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
of rubbish from a junk shop. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
I think there old vases and things, and this was in it. I think we paid | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
probably no more than three or four pounds for the whole box, so... | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
And that came out of it. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
Was this plate | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
in such bad condition because it's got a lot of knife marks on it. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
-Did you do that? -No, no. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
It came like that! | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
No, we would never dare to do that. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
-Oh, no. -We bought it like it. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Obviously, whoever sold this to you who put it in this box of junk | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
didn't realise its value | 0:05:26 | 0:05:27 | |
and had been using it for domestic purposes, cutting up fruit, maybe. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
It's Nantgarw. There's an impress mark on the bottom, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
sort of a white paste porcelain so typical of William Billingsley. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
William Billingsley started producing his wares in around 1813 | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
from about eight miles north of Cardiff, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
but the factory didn't last very long, it didn't employ many people. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
It was very productive for about two or three years | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
and then it had another second period around 1817 to 1820, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
which I think was when this little plate was made, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
and he kept sort of running away and taking the company's money | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
and not paying his bills and he had debt collectors knocking at the door, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:14 | |
and eventually, he went off to work for Worcester | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
with great debts on his shoulders, and the little factory collapsed. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
It's painted beautifully. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
But what an artist and what a genius as well. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Because I think this is second period, when he went missing for | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
quite a bit of the time, a lot of the goods were sold as white goods | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
off to London without being decorated. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
If this was painted in London, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
it would have probably been done by Thomas Steel. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
This fruit is so much like Thomas Steel's work. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
-He never signed it, did he? -Never signed it, no, | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
but just look at the unevenness of this little plate. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
I wondered whether it was a second | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
or something like that because of the shape. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
No, no. Most things were fired like this at very uneven temperatures. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
You couldn't control the temperature, and nothing was fired that came out perfect. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
If that was in mint condition, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
I would be looking for around about £180 to £220. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
-It's not in mint condition. -No. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
I think it's worth around 120 | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
and I'd like to put it into the sale with a valuation of £90 to £130. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
-That sounds fine. -If that's OK. -Yes, that's fine. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Our experts and valuers are always on the lookout for interesting and unusual items. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
Kate has spotted some silver cups brought in by David | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
and she wants to take a closer look. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
David, two very pretty cups and saucers we've got here. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
All we need now is something to put in them, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
and it certainly wouldn't have been tea. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
What these cups and saucers were made for was almost certainly coffee | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
or what I really fancy, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
chocolat, as the French say it, but where did they come from? | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
They were given to us by this old lady who, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
as a child of about three or four, | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
she was taken to France with her family | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
because he was a racehorse trainer from Beverley in Yorkshire | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
and he got a job on the Chantilly Racecourse just outside Paris, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:15 | |
so she stayed in France practically for the rest of her life, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
but she came back to live in Warminster. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
We got to know her, and she eventually gave us these two. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
So do you know where she acquired them from? | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
Her father got them as a trophy or something like that. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
How interesting, because they could be seen as presentation pieces, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
so they would be a very fitting trophy, if you like, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
but also, equally, you could use them in high society in Paris | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
in the very early part of the 20th century, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
because this is exactly when these date for. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
The decoration is typical for art nouveau. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
If we look at the silver closely, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
we can see that it is French silver and it has got the French hallmark | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
just here on both of the cups, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
and also, if we look at the saucer which should also be marked, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
there we go, right in the middle, but if I just get my glass on that | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
you can see as well as the French mark, | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
which is the French head symbolising the republic, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
you can see on this mark also is a tiny little maker's mark | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
-with initials AT. -Something I've not seen before. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Yes, it is really small, I had to get my glass on it, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
but there it is, but what I love about them | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
is the shape and the design, and if we look at the cup first | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
this lovely curvilinear shape | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
and the decoration, which would have been machine-stamped on them. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:45 | |
It's not engraved or chased, it's actually stamped, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
so machine-made, and it's got this lovely border of fuchsias, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:54 | |
and the fuchsia, this lovely pendant flower, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
was a very typical naturalistic image used in designs | 0:09:57 | 0:10:03 | |
for the art nouveau period. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:04 | |
The handle of the cup, though, is quite different. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
This is cast, made separately and then joined to the cup, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
and the design dates from a little earlier, I would say, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
not typically art nouveau, but 19th century, I would say, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
and that's cast. Do you like them? Do you think they're attractive? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
Yes, I do, yes, yes, and they're sentimentally attached, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
but what do you do with them? You know. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
We liked the old lady, we loved her actually, you know... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
You obviously got to know her very well? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
Yes, she was one of the people that you remember | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
and perhaps mould your life around a bit. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
Well, how lovely. Well, I think you've just hit the nail on the head | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
when it comes to value, because you've just said, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
"What do you do with them?" | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
which is why you've brought them here, presumably, to sell. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
-They're not the most commercial items. -No. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:53 | |
And at auction, I would say | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
they're only going to really have quite a conservative estimate, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
-I would say, of between £100 and £150 for the pair. -Right. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
And we could put a reserve, if you like, of just under that, of £90. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
Are you still happy to sell them at that? | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
That's OK, I think that's the best thing. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
-Somebody who likes them as much as me might be interested. -Lovely. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:18 | |
David's silver cups may not have much use, but they're very pretty. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
Let's hope they catch someone's eye at the auction. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
We get a lot of armchair experts on Flog It! | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
She says 80 to 120, reserve of ten! | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
Not a bad guess, but let's head over | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
to Henry Aldridge's in Devizes, where auctioneer Alan Aldridge | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
is concerned about the damage to Joel and Pauline's plate. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
I put £90 to £130 on this, which is, I think, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
about right for a bit of Nantgarw. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
There's a lot of wear on it, a bit of damage, but it always sells well. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
I agree with you. When I got it, pretty plate, reasonably well painted | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
not brilliantly painted. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
But unfortunately used and scratched! | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
I've looked at the back. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
It's that that makes it right. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
-Yeah. -The word Nantgarw is enough to forgive most things. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
Your estimate, I thought, was quite sensible, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
but the owner contacted me and asked to increase the reserve. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
Oh, really, to what? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
-To 130. -OK. -Now, I have to be honest, I think we are pushing our luck. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:25 | |
I think the original figure, you had chances, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
and it's actually been used, the plate, it's scratched to blazes. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Whether that word will pull it off... | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
I don't think it's painted well enough | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
for us now to pull it off. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:39 | |
-Oh, dear. It might be going home, that one. -It may be, it may be. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
Well, we've got to try hard. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
Or it might prove us wrong! | 0:12:45 | 0:12:46 | |
-Exactly! -And two Welshmen decide, "I must have it!" | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Also about to go under the hammer is Sally's circus poster, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:53 | |
valued by David at £60 to £100, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
and David's silver cups valued by Kate at £100 to £150. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:01 | |
We're going under the hammer right now in Aldridge's sale room. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
We've got Sally's Belle Vue circus poster. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
Now, was David, our expert, clowning around when he put | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
£60 to £100 on it, was he in the spirit of the circus theme? | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
I thought I was being serious, Paul. I hope so. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
I just thought this was a jolly lot. Good fun, bright, cheerful, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
a sort of feel-good thing, really. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
I've got to say, I do agree with David, that's sensible money, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
£50 to £100, but all the proceeds | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
-are going to a special trip for you, aren't they? -Yes. -Tell us about it. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
Well, I'm going to see Geoff Hamilton's garden in Rutland | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
in June and the money's going towards that. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Fingers crossed we get the top end of the estimate | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
and send you off in style. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
-Here we go, this is it. -Lovely, thank you. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
This is a fun lot. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
I think somewhere around about 70 quid, about £70 to start me? | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
50 to get me away? | 0:14:04 | 0:14:05 | |
30. 20. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
20 I've got. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
We're in...just! | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
30, 5, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
40, 5, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
50, 5. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
We're talking a tightrope, aren't we? | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
-£50 on my right. -It's got to the reserve. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
£50 is cheap, but I'll sell it, make no mistake. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
At £50 on my right-hand side, am I going? | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
Just, it's gone. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
-Lovely! -Quite good. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
-That's a good result. At least it's gone. -Yep. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
It's better than putting it in the attic! | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
That's money towards that gardening trip. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
-Yes, very pleased. -Have a good time. -Thank you. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
Well done, David. Thank you, Sally. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Just there by the skin of our teeth. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
I'm slightly concerned about the new reserve on the plate I valued. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
It might just put the bidders off. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
Let's find out why Joel and Pauline changed it. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
We put £90 to £130 on this because of the damage. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
I know it's been scratched up by a fruit knife. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
Since that valuation day, you've upped the reserve to 130. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
-We have, yes. -Why did you do that? | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
-Honestly? -Yeah, go on. -I had a bigger offer. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
-You had a better offer? -Yes. -And a private one? -Yes. -Right. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
If it sells, we're happy, if it doesn't sell, we're happy. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:16 | |
-We'll take it home. -OK, so that was my top end, anyway, 130. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
Hopefully, it will sell at 130, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
a little bit more, like we said on the day. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
19th-century Nantgarw plate, been used, but haven't we all. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:30 | |
Somewhere around about £120. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
110? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
90? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-Come on! -£90 I've got. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
We're in at 90. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
90 I've got. 100? | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
£90. 100, 100, 110. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
110. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:51 | |
It's a slow old climb, isn't it! | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
120? | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
125? | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
130? | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
-135. -Ooh, made it! -Done it. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
-130. -Yes, fresh legs. -135. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
140. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
145. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
-That's more like it! -It is! | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
150. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
155? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
At £150, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:18 | |
at £150, all done. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
-Happy! -I'm happy. -That's brilliant! | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
-You're happy as well? -Yes. -There was no need to panic. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
Thank you, Paul. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
What a good result. £150. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
Now, let's see how we do with David's silver cups. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
-They were won as trophies and they belong to you now? -Yes. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
-And you've decided to sell them? -Yes. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Kate, we've got a valuation of £100 to £150, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
hopefully we'll get that top end. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
I'm hoping so. These are delightful little things, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
they're wonderful examples of art nouveau in silver, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
the thing is, though, they're just not that commercial. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
I mean, somebody like David may think they're lovely, | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
but what do I do with them. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
That's the tricky thing, so I really hope we get that value. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
It would be an awful lot more if they were something more useful. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Here we go, let's find out what they make. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
The French silver cups and saucers. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
Start me 50 for the two. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
50, I've got 60, £50 on a maiden bid, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
60, 70, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:20 | |
80, 90, 100. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
At £90, at £90, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
at £90, take five if anyone is quick. At £90. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
At £90, at £90, am I all done? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:32 | |
Yes, we've sold them, £90, just on the reserve. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
-David, thank you so much. -Right. -It's been a real pleasure. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
Only just the silver cups have gone, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
but on the reserve. That's a good result for David. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
On the outskirts of Bath is the only museum of Americana | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
outside the United States, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
and I've come here to find out about the legacy of | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
an extraordinary woman from the 18th century. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
When Ann Lee was born into an impoverished, working-class family | 0:18:00 | 0:18:04 | |
in Manchester back in 1736, nobody could have predicted the impact | 0:18:04 | 0:18:09 | |
she was to have on American furniture design | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
over the next 200 years. Hers is a unique story. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
At the age of 22, Ann Lee became a Quaker, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
but she soon joined a sub-sect called the Shaking Quakers | 0:18:20 | 0:18:24 | |
or Shakers for short, so-called because of the frenzied dancing | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
that accompanied their religious fervour. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Disenchanted with the squalor and destitution she saw all around her, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
Ann Lee started to nurture a vision of a utopian society, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
one that was based on order and celibacy, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
and in 1774, at the age of 38, she joined a growing band of people | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
that were migrating to the new world, America, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
and she settled in New York, where she established a new colony | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
and then started to spread the word of Shakerism. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
For the next 150 years, the Shakers carved a niche for themselves | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
in the new world. Communities were self-contained and self-sufficient, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
adhering strictly to Ann Lee's doctrine of order and celibacy. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
The Shakers were reliant on converting people to their faith | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
to expand their numbers. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
At its peak in 1850, there were more than 6,000 members | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
in 18 communities across America. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
Shaker life was governed by strict rules. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
There was even one stating which foot you should use first | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
when climbing the stairs, and it's this unity of vision | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
that's embodied in every aspect of Shaker life, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
right down to the furniture they produced, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and really, that is how they're best remembered today. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Here at the American Museum in Bath is one of the best collections of | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
original Shaker furniture in the world. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
Shaker designs sprang from a religious philosophy that rejected | 0:19:46 | 0:19:50 | |
the values of the world at large, | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
a world that was deliberately set apart from everyday American life | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
during the late 18th and early 19th century. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
And this is what I'm talking about. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
The simplest and purest of furniture you will ever find, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
and it is so practical, and every time I look at Shaker furniture, | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
it always makes me smile. Life is so simple when you de-clutter, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
and the Shaker belief was all about sharing things, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
and you couldn't have clutter as you would never find anything, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
because they had to share their tools, utensils, blankets, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
absolutely anything, and when you look at the furniture, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
you'll never see a piece of Shaker furniture that has been identified | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
by its maker. You see, they didn't want to know, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
they didn't want single ownership of that either. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
A mixture of woods were used, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
all highly-coloured and polished as well. This is a cherry wood top. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
They loved fruitwoods, but also hardwoods, ashes and maples, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
and lots of softwoods. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
You'll find softwoods always in the pine carcass. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
Sort of a lightweight, cheap wood, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
a bit like a soap box, really, but no-one looks at the inside, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
but just looking at the simple banks of drawers, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
there is absolutely no ornamentation. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
There is no need for decoration. It sort of takes the eye off what | 0:21:04 | 0:21:08 | |
the whole thing was supposed to be about in the first place, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
and this is very humble, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:12 | |
but when you take a closer look at this chest of drawers, you think, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
"Hang on, look at the overhang on the top!" | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
I've never seen an English or European chest of drawers | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
with such generous overhang. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
You see, now this, also doubles up as a counter, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
as a table-top, very functional, very practical, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
and somebody has been using this as a worktop, because you can see | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
all these drawer knife marks as an indication of an awful lot of work | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
going on, which is great, because that is what it was meant for, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
and also, it's got a drop-leaf section here, | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
so you could fold that flap down and move the thing back | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
against the wall, get it out of the way, de-clutter again. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
Cleanliness was next to godliness here! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
# I love mother... # | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
The Shakers strove to lead pure and simple lives, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
and their furniture reflects this. | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
The simple and elegant designs were way ahead of their time, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
and almost by accident, they became art objects. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
# ..and the miser his gold | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
# The monarch his palace and the princess her robe | 0:22:10 | 0:22:17 | |
# I covet none of this For I've a gospel call. # | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
Take a look at the picture rail, because you've got these hand-turned pegs which have been | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
driven into this wood, which had been painted with a blue ground, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
but the great thing about this is | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
you don't just hang your clothes on it, or your tools, but when you've | 0:22:33 | 0:22:39 | |
finished using a piece of furniture and space is of a premium, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
you can pick your piece of furniture up | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
and you can hang it out of the way. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
You see, they were always in the pursuit of perfection, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
improving things, moving along. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
A simple thing like this stove. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
OK, it's a very basic wood-burner, here's the hub of the burner, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
but also, it's got an extension on the top. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
As this heats up all day long, so does that, so that is going to | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
give off twice as much heat again. You see, it's genius, isn't it! | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
I love this as well, the old rocker, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
and this is so typical of a ladder-back chair. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
It looks like an English one, ladder back here with the rush seat, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
but what sets it apart is the fact that it's an American one | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
and it's got these lovely mushrooms | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
terminating at the top of each leg where it joins the arm. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
I love that, and that's so comfortable, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
you would just want to caress it, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
but this I have to show you, because Shaker furniture hasn't just | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
influenced furniture designers, but all designers of the 20th century. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
If I hold that up, that does look like a bit of Philippe Starck, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
doesn't it? Let's face it. But it's just the simpleness, you know. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
You don't need a lot of weight there, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
it's just a functional little side table or candle stand, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
beautifully symmetrical, and again, so pleasing on the eye. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
# ..I've a gospel call | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
# And a kind, loving mother | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
# Which is better than it all | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
# The king may have his throne | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
# And the miser his gold | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
# The monarch his palace... # | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
I would love to live my life in a space like this, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
because I know I would be on top of everything and, you know, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
I'd have more time to read and think and I'd be a happier person, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
and that's what Shaker furniture does for you. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
Back at our valuation day in Warminster, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
Kate Bliss and David Fletcher are busy looking out | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
for more antiques to take off to auction. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
David is loved-up with a cup brought by Margaret. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
-Hello, Margaret. -Hello, David. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
You've brought in a loving cup. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Do you know why it's called that? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
-No, I don't, no. -OK. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
I think it's called a loving cup | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
because it has two handles | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
and in theory, if you and I are husband and wife, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:13 | |
we would perhaps share a cup of tea in it | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
and you would drink out of one side using that handle | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
and I would drink out of this side using this handle. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Um...it's called a "farmer's arms" loving cup | 0:25:23 | 0:25:29 | |
and it's called that | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
because it celebrates the life and efforts | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
of the farming community. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
-Right. -Do you come from a farming community yourself? -No, no. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
I was born locally but I got it from my aunt. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
OK. It's transfer-printed and it would have been made in Staffordshire. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
Now you first see loving cups like this decorated with the farmer's arms | 0:25:52 | 0:25:59 | |
-dating from about 1830-1840... -Right. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
..but the nature of the decoration | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
is a little bit too unsubtle, really, for an early piece of transfer printing... | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
-Right. -..and I think that points to a late-19th-century date. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:14 | |
-Shall we just have a look at the rhyme on the back? -Yes. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
It says, "So jolly boys now Here's God speed the plough | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
"Long life and success to the farmer." | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
And it finishes with a motto, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
"Industry produceth wealth," | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
and that says the harder you work, the richer you'll become. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-In theory! -I'm not sure that applies. In theory, exactly. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
-I'm not sure that has applied in my life, but did you ever use it? -No, no, no. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
-You've never drunk out of it? -It was in the cupboard. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
-So you haven't even had it on display then? -No. -So you won't really miss it? -I shall not miss it! | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
-Now I've got to tell you that it's not terribly valuable. -No. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
-I suspect you thought that was the case? -It's the fun of coming here. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Well, I think it's going to make probably no more than £20 or £30. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
-That's fine. -So we'll make that the estimate. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
-Right. -But what I would like to do, if you're happy, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
is to sell it without reserve. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
-Yes. -So if it doesn't make £20 | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
and sells for, say, £15... | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
That's fine. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
-That's fine. -You won't shoot me! | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
No, definitely not! | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
Is David putting his neck on the block here by selling Margaret's loving cup with no reserve? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
We'll find out shortly at auction. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
Meanwhile, Kate is taking a closer look at Phyllis's picture. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
This is a really striking portrait. How did you acquire it? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:37 | |
Well, we just recently moved house and it was a much larger house | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
and I was always looking in antique shops and I just saw her | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
and I just had to buy her because her face was just so beautiful. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-The face that sold it to you? -Yes. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
It's also very delicate, it's not harsh at all. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
-Do you know anything about the artist, though? -Only a little. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
-I knew it was painted in 1862 and he was a member of the Royal Academy. -That's right. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:03 | |
And that's, er...Pre-Raphaelite. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
OK, well, it is dated quite clearly, actually, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
-although quite small detail, here 1862. -Right. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
But above that, the initial "F" | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
and then "Smallfield"... | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
-Right. -..the signature of the artist. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
And I think you're right - | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
-it is the face, which is the best thing about it. -Yes. -And, for me, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
it almost looks as if the hair and her dress | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
-could almost be by a different artist. -Really? | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
That perhaps deserves an explanation | 0:28:32 | 0:28:34 | |
-and when I tell you about Frederick Smallfield, you'll understand why... -Right. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:39 | |
..because he was at the Royal Academy, he studied at the Academy in the 1840s | 0:28:39 | 0:28:45 | |
and at that time, it meant that he was studying with a lot of the Pre-Raphaelite artists... | 0:28:45 | 0:28:52 | |
-Right. -..then went on to become leaders in their field... -Right. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
..but of particular influence among the Pre-Raphaelites | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
-was the artist, John Everett Millais... -Right. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
..and Millais really inspired Smallfield | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
and helped him to develop this very Pre-Raphaelite style | 0:29:06 | 0:29:11 | |
which you can see in the face of this young girl | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
and if you look carefully, you can see | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
that he's captured it almost by using the technique that miniaturists use | 0:29:17 | 0:29:22 | |
of perhaps using the end of the brush | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
in tiny, tiny little dots which produces this very soft effect | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
and that almost gives the texture of the skin as well | 0:29:31 | 0:29:35 | |
-and that is essentially a very Pre-Raphaelite technique. -Right. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
So we've got here somebody who studied with the Pre-Raphaelites | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
-but somebody who is not really recognised as being a Pre-Raphaelite. -Right. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
This is dated 1862, which you noticed. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
-The 1860s were when the best of his work was done... -Right. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
..and the subject, of course, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
being a young girl is the best subject in portraits, | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
and the most commercial, so it's got a lot going for it. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
-The downside is that it is foxed... -Yes. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
And foxing, that you can see here in these brown patches, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
luckily actually up here, not so much in the actual painting, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:16 | |
but foxing is an actual fungus that will grow within time. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
So if that isn't seen to, that will interfere with the painting more, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
but having said that, it could be fixed fairly easily by a restorer. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
-Right. -So why do you want to get rid of her now? | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
Because we've got a smaller house. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
I've got lots of pictures | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
and we've got a houseful of historic race cars which my husband restored. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:42 | |
So vintage racing cars? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:44 | |
-Yes, it's all their classic Formula 1, '60s, '70s stuff. -Wow! | 0:30:44 | 0:30:48 | |
-Can my dad visit you? -He can, anytime. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
-We've got one in the garage now. -Ooh, fantastic! | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
-I might take you up on that! -Right. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:56 | |
-But back to the portrait... -Right. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
..what did you pay for it in the antique shop, can you remember? | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
-I'm sure it was about £40. -Right, OK. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:05 | |
-I'm going to say £200 to £400 but I think she might make even a bit more than that. -Really! | 0:31:05 | 0:31:11 | |
But it's a little bit of a vague estimate, £200 to £400 but that's because I recommend a reserve, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:16 | |
-perhaps towards the lower end of the estimate. -Right. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
But I think she has potential perhaps | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
to make 400 plus. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
-Really! -I think she's lovely. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
She is beautiful, isn't she? | 0:31:27 | 0:31:29 | |
Really lovely. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
Could Phyllis make ten times what she spent on the painting? | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
It's a tantalising prediction. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:36 | |
Now if you've got any unwanted antiques and collectables that you'd like to sell, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
we would love to see you but you have to come to one of these - a Flog It! valuation day. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
There's two ways of finding out the dates and the venues. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
The first is to check the details in your local press, the next is to log on to... | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
Click F for Flog It! and then follow the links | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
and you'll find the dates and the venues for our future valuation days | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
and hopefully there's one very near you soon. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
It's good to see sporting memorabilia on Flog It! | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
as it can do really well at auction and that's why David has got quite excited about Bill's collection. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:19 | |
Not only do they tell us about football itself | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
and a bit about the people who played at the time, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
-they also tell us a bit about graphic art of the time too. -Yes, yes. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:30 | |
This Aston Villa programme, for example, dated 1949 - | 0:32:30 | 0:32:37 | |
-what a wonderful piece of design that is. -Yes, yes. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:41 | |
And the Newport County AFC programme too. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
It's a lovely piece of design, but as I say, the interest I think goes further than that. | 0:32:44 | 0:32:50 | |
If we open this one for Arsenal versus Aston Villa, | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
we can see some of the players whose names are household names - | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
-Compton... -Yes, yes. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
-Presumably Leslie Compton? -Yes, I think they both played. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
-And he was Dennis Compton's...? -His brother, and they both played, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
not on that particular day, but they both played at the same time, yeah. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
And another name, Mercer, presumably Joe Mercer? | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
Yes, yes, that's Joe Mercer, yes. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
And he went on to manage Manchester City in my young days. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
Yes, and England. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
And England, of course, quite right, yeah. Is this your own collection? | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
No, my brother's. He actually went to all of these games. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
Gosh! He must have spent a fortune travelling the country! | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
-He worked for British Rail for 50 years! -Did he? Oh, good! | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
So it was subsidised rail fares? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
-Yes, yes. -And he made the most of it! | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
-He certainly did, yes. -Wonderful! | 0:33:41 | 0:33:43 | |
And what we've got here is just the tip of the iceberg. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
-Yes, yes. -How many in all, do you think? | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
-Over 200. -Over 200? -Yeah. | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Right, and anything else that relates to football or is it just programmes? | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
-I've got some signed photographs. -Have you? Right. -Stanley Matthews. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
Stanley Matthews, right, yep. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
-And Sandy Mortensen. -Mortensen, yes. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
-You've got their autographs in the collection? -Yes. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
Amazing, and are they taking up space? | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Do you want to clear your decks a bit? | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
No, not particularly. They're just stored away and I've got three sons, | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
they would appreciate having them but they would just be stored away. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
-You don't think they'll regret their passing too much? -Oh, no, no. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
We need really to think about what the collection's worth. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
Given that you've got these autographs, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:33 | |
-which we haven't been able to see today... -Yes. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
..you know, I think the whole collection is going to make the best part of £100, really. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
-I would be inclined to go with an estimate of £80 to £120. -Yeah. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:47 | |
A reserve a bit below £80, say £60. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
They'll be happy with that. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
We'll go ahead on that basis, then. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
OK, Bill, well, I'll see you with all those other football fans | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
-in the sale room and I'll look forward to that, OK? -I look forward to it, yes. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
So without delay, let's kick off our second stint at auction. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
Alan Aldridge is on side with Bill's football programmes. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
It seems our expert, David, has been very cautious with his valuation. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:15 | |
We've put £80 to £120 on the lot and there's a lot of early photographs | 0:35:15 | 0:35:19 | |
with signatures as well, autographs. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
I think it's a lovely little lot. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
It's our field, sporting memorabilia, we've got good clients for it. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
It's my era as well, so I know all these guys, I watched them as a lad. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:34 | |
Fortunately or unfortunately, my dad didn't work for British Rail. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:38 | |
-I could only see Arsenal. -But that's your team, isn't it? -That's my programme. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
Have you seen this? Look! Look at that. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
-1948. -I may have seen it. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:48 | |
-I don't remember it. -The Gunners. -I may have seen it. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
-I love this! This reminds me of the early Shell posters, you know the graphics on this. -Yeah. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:55 | |
There's two guys at an East London School, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
and they did beautiful posters and they are very, very collectable. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
-Have you split the lot? -Yeah, I've split them because this is purely programmes and club programmes. -OK. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:10 | |
-These are international programmes and autographs. -Right. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
You'll touch different collectors. By splitting them | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
it will benefit the client, obviously, and I would say | 0:36:16 | 0:36:21 | |
we'll get top end of the estimate and if things are good to us, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
we'll bang on a bit more on that as well. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:27 | |
OK, so we're looking for a bit more than £120 for this particular lot? | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
-Yes. -And for the autographs, what are you looking for there? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
-This is less. -Less? | 0:36:34 | 0:36:35 | |
This is probably sort of £60, maybe £80. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
This one, £180, £200, £250. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
£250? Hey, now you're talking! | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
-If we get carried away. -OK, fingers crossed, fingers crossed! | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
So, will two lots mean twice the money? We'll find out shortly. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
First, a quick reminder of the other lots just about to go under the hammer. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
Kate has given Phyllis's painting a hefty estimate of £200 to £400 but will the condition put people off | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
and will the bidders love | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
Margaret's loving cup with no reserve - anybody's guess! | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
I absolutely love this next lot; it's one of my favourite pieces of the sale. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
Why are you selling it? You should be hanging onto this - it's not going to make you rich! | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
-It's just being here, isn't it? -The Flog It! experience! -Yes! | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
You could have come without bringing anything along. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
Anybody is welcome at our valuation days. If you want to watch, you're more than welcome to. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:27 | |
I don't need it, it's just in a cupboard. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:29 | |
It's a nice thing, isn't it? | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
It's just a nice little keepsake from the days when farming wasn't as bleak as it is now | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
and people in this country were directly or indirectly involved in agriculture; | 0:37:35 | 0:37:40 | |
most people worked in agriculture - | 0:37:40 | 0:37:41 | |
far, far more than they do today and it's just a reminder of those golden bygone days. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:47 | |
-Perhaps it will go to somebody who appreciates it. -I hope it goes to a farmer. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
We'll find out right now because this is your lot. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
"God speed the plough" - | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
a nice little loving cup, 20 quid. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
15? Who wants to start me at a tenner, then? | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
Oh, God! | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
Ten at the very back. | 0:38:09 | 0:38:12 | |
12 quickly, at £10, at 10, is there 12? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
10 is not a lot of money. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
It's very pretty. At £10, at the back... | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
-Oh, it's worth twice as much as that! -£10 all going. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
£10, it's gone, there was no reserve. | 0:38:24 | 0:38:27 | |
It's just coffee money, isn't it? | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
Yes, it was a nice thing, that was a lovely thing. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
-You might be able to buy yourself a gin and tonic... -Possibly. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
The cup only sold for a tenner but it's put a big smile on Margaret's face. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:41 | |
Next it's Phyllis's painting of another pretty face, but will the condition hold it back? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
Phyllis, time to put that watercolour to the test by Frederick Smallfield, | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
£200 to £400 we've put on this. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
I think it's interesting because it is a slightly unpredictable market | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
-but she has got a lovely face! -Yes, she's a beautiful girl. -Yeah. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
-I may be slightly optimistic but you never know... -You don't know what will happen. | 0:38:59 | 0:39:03 | |
-There seems to be a lot of picture buyers in the room. -We'll find out. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
-Fingers crossed, Phyllis. -There's got to be somebody | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
-that looks for portraits rather than scenes. -That's right. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
Now this by an artist called Fred Smallfield; decorative. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:19 | |
Couple of hundred quid? | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
Couple of hundred? | 0:39:22 | 0:39:23 | |
150. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
Come on, come on! | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
-They're all sitting on their hands, aren't they? -They are! | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
We've got to start somewhere. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
-And if anybody says a tenner, I'll throw the gavel at them! -20. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
Well, that's nearly there! | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
20, I will start. 40. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
60. 70. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
£70. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:51 | |
80. 100? | 0:39:51 | 0:39:53 | |
At £80. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
-90. 100, 110. -This is more like it! | 0:39:56 | 0:40:02 | |
110, anywhere else? | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
All going. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
-Not quite. -No. -Not sold. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
-Sorry about that. -It's all right. -Wasn't to their taste, was it? -No. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
-That's what it was. -Exactly! -Maybe there is a space on the wall left? -Yes. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
-It's had a Flog It! outing, it's had an airing, it's been on TV. -Yes. -Maybe you should enjoy it. -Yes. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
And it reminds you of a day in Flog It! in the auction room. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:25 | |
Phyllis's painting will be going back on her wall, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
where hopefully she can enjoy it for a while longer | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
and now it's time for Bill's football programmes. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
They've been split into two lots, each with an estimate of £80 to £120 with a fixed reserve of £60. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:40 | |
-There's some wonderful things there, David, as you know! -Yeah. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
-The Villa programme, the Arsenal one. -Yeah, and the '48 Cup Semi-Final. -Yeah. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
All late '40s, early '50s. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:49 | |
-Yeah. -All credit to your brother and you for keeping them in such condition - | 0:40:49 | 0:40:53 | |
-that's where the value is. -I hope so. -They're about to go under the hammer. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
We're going to find out what they're worth. This is it! | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
These are autographs and a few programmes - | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
a couple of nice internationals at the back, good little lot. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
50, I've got. 60. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
70, 80, 90, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:18 | |
100, 110, 120? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
I've got 110, at £110 with me. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
120, 125, 130. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:31 | |
I've got 125 with me. 125! | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
-Well done! -I'm happy with that. -One down, one to go. We got the top end. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
Again we've got a collection | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
of nice early 1947-1948, mainly Birmingham teams. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:50 | |
Start me somewhere around about 160. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
-Wow! -170, 180, 190, 200, 210, | 0:41:53 | 0:42:00 | |
220, 230, 240. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
250, 260, 270, 280, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:09 | |
290, 300, 310. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:13 | |
At £300, 300, at 300; is there 10? | 0:42:13 | 0:42:17 | |
-At 300! -You've got to be pleased with that. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
-That's £425 in total. -You knew something, David! | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
-Yeah, very, very pleased. -£425! Who gets the money? | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
Well, I don't know whether it will be me or my brother... | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
we didn't expect to get anything like this, really. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 | |
Brothers can sort it out. Look, all credit to both of you for looking after them. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
-Ask your wife to sort it out between you and I'm sure she'll be able to do a deal. -She can. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:42 | |
-No fighting, no brothers fighting, please! -It's already decided! | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
-Thank you so much, Bill. -Thank you, thank you very much. | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
Well, that's it, it's all over for our owners as we're coming to the end of another auction | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 | |
and the highlight of the day for me had to be that big smile on Bill's face | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
when we sold the football programmes. | 0:43:03 | 0:43:05 | |
They made a total of £425, almost four times the original estimate. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
That's the excitement of auctions. If you've not been to one, come and join us soon, | 0:43:10 | 0:43:15 | |
but you've got to bring some antiques to one of our valuation days, | 0:43:15 | 0:43:19 | |
so from Wiltshire, until then, it's cheerio. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
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