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Today we've come to one of the most mysterious counties in England,

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where stone circles befuddle,

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crops circles confuse and strange giant white horses

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gallop across the hills. Yes, today, Flog It! has come to Wiltshire.

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The white horses of Wiltshire are giants carved into the chalky hills.

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Many of the carvings are only a few hundred years old,

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although the origin of most of them remains a mystery.

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Now, the white horse you can see cut into the chalk hill

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over there behind me, that's the oldest in the county.

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It was cut over 300 years ago, but in the mid 18th century,

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the steward to Lord Abingdon, who owns all of this land around,

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re-cut the horse because he thought the old one didn't look lifelike

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and it was also facing in a different direction

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and the name of the steward that cut that, what we're looking at today,

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well, he was called Mr G Gee.

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How unbelievable is that!

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Under starter's orders are Warminster Assembly Rooms in Wiltshire today

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are experts David Fletcher and Kate Bliss,

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and they'll be leading our valuers finding the best items to take off to auction.

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Kate has been around antiques since she was a toddler,

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so spotting those gems should be child's play,

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and David's got a heart of gold - in fact, the first item David ever sold

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as an auctioneer was a live rabbit,

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but with no bidders, he took pity on it and bought it himself.

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They were both happy bunnies!

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'It is always good to see the fans turn up at one of our valuation days

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'although some fans are bigger than others!'

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And coming up on today's show, Joel and Pauline raise the stakes at auction.

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Since that valuation day, you've upped the reserve to £130.

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-We have, yes.

-Why did you do that?

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-Honestly?

-Yeah, go on!

-I had a bigger offer.

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You had a better offer.

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And auctioneer Alan will go to any length to sell Phyllis's painting.

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Couple of hundred quid? 150?

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They're all sitting on their hands!

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And if anybody says a tenner, I'll throw the gavel at them!

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But will it work? Find out later in the show.

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As the crowd settle into their seats, it looks like David is saddling up with his first item.

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Now, did you ever work in the circus yourself?

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No, I've never worked in the circus,

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but we have been circus clowns in the carnival.

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OK. Who is we?

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-My sister Avril and me.

-Your sister and you? OK, you're a double act!

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Yes, we're a double act.

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I love this. It's a good bit of fun, isn't it, really?

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Amazingly colourful, I mean, that's what first struck me about it

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when I saw it across the room earlier on.

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As we can see, this is encouraging us

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to book tickets for the Belle Vue Circus.

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Now, I understand that the location was a permanent location and

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that the circus appeared there every winter

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and that is confirmed, really, by what it says at the bottom -

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the winter season.

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Now, as such, I would take it that this

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was a permanent poster and probably in position

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somewhere within the Belle Vue complex all the year round,

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which may explain why it's in such good condition.

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It wasn't taken up and put down and wheeled out in all weathers

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and the condition really is very good.

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The frame has been repainted, but apart from that, it's fine.

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I would have thought that it dated from the 1950s, possibly 1960s.

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Did you acquire it fairly recently?

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My late husband bought it at a car-boot sale about 20 years ago.

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And paid next to nothing for it, I daresay?

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Two or three pounds, I think.

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Good for him, and where did you have it in the house?

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I'm afraid it's been in the loft for the last 20-odd years.

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-Right, so you haven't been enjoying it?

-No, I haven't.

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-But what a lovely conversation piece it would have been!

-Well, yeah.

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Never mind. I mean, we would be delighted to sell it for you.

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I would like to think this will make over £100.

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Oh, right, OK.

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With luck, a bit more, but I've never seen anything quite like this before,

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so I'm going to be a little bit cautious

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and I think I'll suggest an estimate of 60 to 100

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and a fixed reserve of 50.

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-Are you happy with that?

-Yes, very happy, thank you.

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Good, OK, we'll go ahead on that basis.

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-Thank you.

-And roll up, roll up at the auction sale.

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While Sally says goodbye to the fun of the circus, I'm saying hello

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to Joel and Pauline who have brought in a little plate that's worth investigating.

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So tell me, where did you come by this?

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All we can remember is that we bought a box

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of rubbish from a junk shop.

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I think there old vases and things, and this was in it. I think we paid

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probably no more than three or four pounds for the whole box, so...

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And that came out of it.

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Was this plate

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in such bad condition because it's got a lot of knife marks on it.

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-Did you do that?

-No, no.

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It came like that!

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No, we would never dare to do that.

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-Oh, no.

-We bought it like it.

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Obviously, whoever sold this to you who put it in this box of junk

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didn't realise its value

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and had been using it for domestic purposes, cutting up fruit, maybe.

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It's Nantgarw. There's an impress mark on the bottom,

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sort of a white paste porcelain so typical of William Billingsley.

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William Billingsley started producing his wares in around 1813

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from about eight miles north of Cardiff,

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but the factory didn't last very long, it didn't employ many people.

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It was very productive for about two or three years

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and then it had another second period around 1817 to 1820,

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which I think was when this little plate was made,

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and he kept sort of running away and taking the company's money

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and not paying his bills and he had debt collectors knocking at the door,

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and eventually, he went off to work for Worcester

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with great debts on his shoulders, and the little factory collapsed.

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It's painted beautifully.

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But what an artist and what a genius as well.

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Because I think this is second period, when he went missing for

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quite a bit of the time, a lot of the goods were sold as white goods

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off to London without being decorated.

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If this was painted in London,

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it would have probably been done by Thomas Steel.

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This fruit is so much like Thomas Steel's work.

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-He never signed it, did he?

-Never signed it, no,

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but just look at the unevenness of this little plate.

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I wondered whether it was a second

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or something like that because of the shape.

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No, no. Most things were fired like this at very uneven temperatures.

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You couldn't control the temperature, and nothing was fired that came out perfect.

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If that was in mint condition,

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I would be looking for around about £180 to £220.

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-It's not in mint condition.

-No.

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I think it's worth around 120

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and I'd like to put it into the sale with a valuation of £90 to £130.

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-That sounds fine.

-If that's OK.

-Yes, that's fine.

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Our experts and valuers are always on the lookout for interesting and unusual items.

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Kate has spotted some silver cups brought in by David

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and she wants to take a closer look.

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David, two very pretty cups and saucers we've got here.

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All we need now is something to put in them,

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and it certainly wouldn't have been tea.

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What these cups and saucers were made for was almost certainly coffee

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or what I really fancy,

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chocolat, as the French say it, but where did they come from?

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They were given to us by this old lady who,

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as a child of about three or four,

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she was taken to France with her family

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because he was a racehorse trainer from Beverley in Yorkshire

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and he got a job on the Chantilly Racecourse just outside Paris,

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so she stayed in France practically for the rest of her life,

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but she came back to live in Warminster.

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We got to know her, and she eventually gave us these two.

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So do you know where she acquired them from?

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Her father got them as a trophy or something like that.

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How interesting, because they could be seen as presentation pieces,

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so they would be a very fitting trophy, if you like,

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but also, equally, you could use them in high society in Paris

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in the very early part of the 20th century,

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because this is exactly when these date for.

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The decoration is typical for art nouveau.

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If we look at the silver closely,

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we can see that it is French silver and it has got the French hallmark

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just here on both of the cups,

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and also, if we look at the saucer which should also be marked,

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there we go, right in the middle, but if I just get my glass on that

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you can see as well as the French mark,

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which is the French head symbolising the republic,

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you can see on this mark also is a tiny little maker's mark

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-with initials AT.

-Something I've not seen before.

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Yes, it is really small, I had to get my glass on it,

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but there it is, but what I love about them

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is the shape and the design, and if we look at the cup first

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this lovely curvilinear shape

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and the decoration, which would have been machine-stamped on them.

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It's not engraved or chased, it's actually stamped,

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so machine-made, and it's got this lovely border of fuchsias,

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and the fuchsia, this lovely pendant flower,

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was a very typical naturalistic image used in designs

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for the art nouveau period.

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The handle of the cup, though, is quite different.

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This is cast, made separately and then joined to the cup,

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and the design dates from a little earlier, I would say,

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not typically art nouveau, but 19th century, I would say,

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and that's cast. Do you like them? Do you think they're attractive?

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Yes, I do, yes, yes, and they're sentimentally attached,

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but what do you do with them? You know.

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We liked the old lady, we loved her actually, you know...

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You obviously got to know her very well?

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Yes, she was one of the people that you remember

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and perhaps mould your life around a bit.

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Well, how lovely. Well, I think you've just hit the nail on the head

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when it comes to value, because you've just said,

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"What do you do with them?"

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which is why you've brought them here, presumably, to sell.

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-They're not the most commercial items.

-No.

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And at auction, I would say

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they're only going to really have quite a conservative estimate,

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-I would say, of between £100 and £150 for the pair.

-Right.

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And we could put a reserve, if you like, of just under that, of £90.

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Are you still happy to sell them at that?

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That's OK, I think that's the best thing.

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-Somebody who likes them as much as me might be interested.

-Lovely.

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David's silver cups may not have much use, but they're very pretty.

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Let's hope they catch someone's eye at the auction.

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We get a lot of armchair experts on Flog It!

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She says 80 to 120, reserve of ten!

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Not a bad guess, but let's head over

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to Henry Aldridge's in Devizes, where auctioneer Alan Aldridge

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is concerned about the damage to Joel and Pauline's plate.

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I put £90 to £130 on this, which is, I think,

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about right for a bit of Nantgarw.

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There's a lot of wear on it, a bit of damage, but it always sells well.

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I agree with you. When I got it, pretty plate, reasonably well painted

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not brilliantly painted.

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But unfortunately used and scratched!

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I've looked at the back.

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It's that that makes it right.

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-Yeah.

-The word Nantgarw is enough to forgive most things.

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Your estimate, I thought, was quite sensible,

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but the owner contacted me and asked to increase the reserve.

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Oh, really, to what?

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-To 130.

-OK.

-Now, I have to be honest, I think we are pushing our luck.

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I think the original figure, you had chances,

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and it's actually been used, the plate, it's scratched to blazes.

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Whether that word will pull it off...

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I don't think it's painted well enough

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for us now to pull it off.

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-Oh, dear. It might be going home, that one.

-It may be, it may be.

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Well, we've got to try hard.

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Or it might prove us wrong!

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-Exactly!

-And two Welshmen decide, "I must have it!"

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Also about to go under the hammer is Sally's circus poster,

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valued by David at £60 to £100,

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and David's silver cups valued by Kate at £100 to £150.

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We're going under the hammer right now in Aldridge's sale room.

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We've got Sally's Belle Vue circus poster.

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Now, was David, our expert, clowning around when he put

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£60 to £100 on it, was he in the spirit of the circus theme?

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I thought I was being serious, Paul. I hope so.

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I just thought this was a jolly lot. Good fun, bright, cheerful,

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a sort of feel-good thing, really.

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I've got to say, I do agree with David, that's sensible money,

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£50 to £100, but all the proceeds

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-are going to a special trip for you, aren't they?

-Yes.

-Tell us about it.

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Well, I'm going to see Geoff Hamilton's garden in Rutland

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in June and the money's going towards that.

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Fingers crossed we get the top end of the estimate

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and send you off in style.

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-Here we go, this is it.

-Lovely, thank you.

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This is a fun lot.

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I think somewhere around about 70 quid, about £70 to start me?

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50 to get me away?

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30. 20.

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20 I've got.

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We're in...just!

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30, 5,

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40, 5,

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50, 5.

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We're talking a tightrope, aren't we?

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-£50 on my right.

-It's got to the reserve.

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£50 is cheap, but I'll sell it, make no mistake.

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At £50 on my right-hand side, am I going?

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Just, it's gone.

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-Lovely!

-Quite good.

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-That's a good result. At least it's gone.

-Yep.

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It's better than putting it in the attic!

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That's money towards that gardening trip.

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-Yes, very pleased.

-Have a good time.

-Thank you.

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Well done, David. Thank you, Sally.

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Just there by the skin of our teeth.

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I'm slightly concerned about the new reserve on the plate I valued.

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It might just put the bidders off.

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Let's find out why Joel and Pauline changed it.

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We put £90 to £130 on this because of the damage.

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I know it's been scratched up by a fruit knife.

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Since that valuation day, you've upped the reserve to 130.

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-We have, yes.

-Why did you do that?

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-Honestly?

-Yeah, go on.

-I had a bigger offer.

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-You had a better offer?

-Yes.

-And a private one?

-Yes.

-Right.

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If it sells, we're happy, if it doesn't sell, we're happy.

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-We'll take it home.

-OK, so that was my top end, anyway, 130.

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Hopefully, it will sell at 130,

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a little bit more, like we said on the day.

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19th-century Nantgarw plate, been used, but haven't we all.

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Somewhere around about £120.

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110?

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90?

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-Come on!

-£90 I've got.

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We're in at 90.

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90 I've got. 100?

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£90. 100, 100, 110.

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110.

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It's a slow old climb, isn't it!

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120?

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125?

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130?

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-135.

-Ooh, made it!

-Done it.

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-130.

-Yes, fresh legs.

-135.

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140.

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145.

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-That's more like it!

-It is!

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150.

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155?

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At £150,

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at £150, all done.

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-Happy!

-I'm happy.

-That's brilliant!

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-You're happy as well?

-Yes.

-There was no need to panic.

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Thank you, Paul.

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What a good result. £150.

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Now, let's see how we do with David's silver cups.

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-They were won as trophies and they belong to you now?

-Yes.

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-And you've decided to sell them?

-Yes.

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Kate, we've got a valuation of £100 to £150,

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hopefully we'll get that top end.

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I'm hoping so. These are delightful little things,

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they're wonderful examples of art nouveau in silver,

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the thing is, though, they're just not that commercial.

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I mean, somebody like David may think they're lovely,

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but what do I do with them.

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That's the tricky thing, so I really hope we get that value.

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It would be an awful lot more if they were something more useful.

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Here we go, let's find out what they make.

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The French silver cups and saucers.

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Start me 50 for the two.

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50, I've got 60, £50 on a maiden bid,

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60, 70,

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80, 90, 100.

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At £90, at £90,

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at £90, take five if anyone is quick. At £90.

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At £90, at £90, am I all done?

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Yes, we've sold them, £90, just on the reserve.

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-David, thank you so much.

-Right.

-It's been a real pleasure.

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Only just the silver cups have gone,

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but on the reserve. That's a good result for David.

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On the outskirts of Bath is the only museum of Americana

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outside the United States,

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and I've come here to find out about the legacy of

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an extraordinary woman from the 18th century.

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When Ann Lee was born into an impoverished, working-class family

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in Manchester back in 1736, nobody could have predicted the impact

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she was to have on American furniture design

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over the next 200 years. Hers is a unique story.

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At the age of 22, Ann Lee became a Quaker,

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but she soon joined a sub-sect called the Shaking Quakers

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or Shakers for short, so-called because of the frenzied dancing

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that accompanied their religious fervour.

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Disenchanted with the squalor and destitution she saw all around her,

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Ann Lee started to nurture a vision of a utopian society,

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one that was based on order and celibacy,

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and in 1774, at the age of 38, she joined a growing band of people

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that were migrating to the new world, America,

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and she settled in New York, where she established a new colony

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and then started to spread the word of Shakerism.

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For the next 150 years, the Shakers carved a niche for themselves

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in the new world. Communities were self-contained and self-sufficient,

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adhering strictly to Ann Lee's doctrine of order and celibacy.

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The Shakers were reliant on converting people to their faith

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to expand their numbers.

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At its peak in 1850, there were more than 6,000 members

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in 18 communities across America.

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Shaker life was governed by strict rules.

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There was even one stating which foot you should use first

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when climbing the stairs, and it's this unity of vision

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that's embodied in every aspect of Shaker life,

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right down to the furniture they produced,

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and really, that is how they're best remembered today.

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Here at the American Museum in Bath is one of the best collections of

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original Shaker furniture in the world.

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Shaker designs sprang from a religious philosophy that rejected

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the values of the world at large,

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a world that was deliberately set apart from everyday American life

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during the late 18th and early 19th century.

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And this is what I'm talking about.

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The simplest and purest of furniture you will ever find,

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and it is so practical, and every time I look at Shaker furniture,

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it always makes me smile. Life is so simple when you de-clutter,

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and the Shaker belief was all about sharing things,

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and you couldn't have clutter as you would never find anything,

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because they had to share their tools, utensils, blankets,

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absolutely anything, and when you look at the furniture,

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you'll never see a piece of Shaker furniture that has been identified

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by its maker. You see, they didn't want to know,

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they didn't want single ownership of that either.

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A mixture of woods were used,

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all highly-coloured and polished as well. This is a cherry wood top.

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They loved fruitwoods, but also hardwoods, ashes and maples,

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and lots of softwoods.

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You'll find softwoods always in the pine carcass.

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Sort of a lightweight, cheap wood,

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a bit like a soap box, really, but no-one looks at the inside,

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but just looking at the simple banks of drawers,

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there is absolutely no ornamentation.

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There is no need for decoration. It sort of takes the eye off what

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the whole thing was supposed to be about in the first place,

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and this is very humble,

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but when you take a closer look at this chest of drawers, you think,

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"Hang on, look at the overhang on the top!"

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I've never seen an English or European chest of drawers

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with such generous overhang.

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You see, now this, also doubles up as a counter,

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as a table-top, very functional, very practical,

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and somebody has been using this as a worktop, because you can see

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all these drawer knife marks as an indication of an awful lot of work

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going on, which is great, because that is what it was meant for,

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and also, it's got a drop-leaf section here,

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so you could fold that flap down and move the thing back

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against the wall, get it out of the way, de-clutter again.

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Cleanliness was next to godliness here!

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# I love mother... #

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The Shakers strove to lead pure and simple lives,

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and their furniture reflects this.

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The simple and elegant designs were way ahead of their time,

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and almost by accident, they became art objects.

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# ..and the miser his gold

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# The monarch his palace and the princess her robe

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# I covet none of this For I've a gospel call. #

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Take a look at the picture rail, because you've got these hand-turned pegs which have been

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driven into this wood, which had been painted with a blue ground,

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but the great thing about this is

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you don't just hang your clothes on it, or your tools, but when you've

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finished using a piece of furniture and space is of a premium,

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you can pick your piece of furniture up

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and you can hang it out of the way.

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You see, they were always in the pursuit of perfection,

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improving things, moving along.

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A simple thing like this stove.

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OK, it's a very basic wood-burner, here's the hub of the burner,

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but also, it's got an extension on the top.

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As this heats up all day long, so does that, so that is going to

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give off twice as much heat again. You see, it's genius, isn't it!

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I love this as well, the old rocker,

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and this is so typical of a ladder-back chair.

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It looks like an English one, ladder back here with the rush seat,

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but what sets it apart is the fact that it's an American one

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and it's got these lovely mushrooms

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terminating at the top of each leg where it joins the arm.

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I love that, and that's so comfortable,

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you would just want to caress it,

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but this I have to show you, because Shaker furniture hasn't just

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influenced furniture designers, but all designers of the 20th century.

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If I hold that up, that does look like a bit of Philippe Starck,

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doesn't it? Let's face it. But it's just the simpleness, you know.

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You don't need a lot of weight there,

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it's just a functional little side table or candle stand,

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beautifully symmetrical, and again, so pleasing on the eye.

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# ..I've a gospel call

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# And a kind, loving mother

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# Which is better than it all

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# The king may have his throne

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# And the miser his gold

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# The monarch his palace... #

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I would love to live my life in a space like this,

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because I know I would be on top of everything and, you know,

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I'd have more time to read and think and I'd be a happier person,

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and that's what Shaker furniture does for you.

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Back at our valuation day in Warminster,

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Kate Bliss and David Fletcher are busy looking out

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for more antiques to take off to auction.

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David is loved-up with a cup brought by Margaret.

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-Hello, Margaret.

-Hello, David.

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You've brought in a loving cup.

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Do you know why it's called that?

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-No, I don't, no.

-OK.

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I think it's called a loving cup

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because it has two handles

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and in theory, if you and I are husband and wife,

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we would perhaps share a cup of tea in it

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and you would drink out of one side using that handle

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and I would drink out of this side using this handle.

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Um...it's called a "farmer's arms" loving cup

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and it's called that

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because it celebrates the life and efforts

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of the farming community.

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-Right.

-Do you come from a farming community yourself?

-No, no.

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I was born locally but I got it from my aunt.

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OK. It's transfer-printed and it would have been made in Staffordshire.

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Now you first see loving cups like this decorated with the farmer's arms

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-dating from about 1830-1840...

-Right.

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..but the nature of the decoration

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is a little bit too unsubtle, really, for an early piece of transfer printing...

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-Right.

-..and I think that points to a late-19th-century date.

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-Shall we just have a look at the rhyme on the back?

-Yes.

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It says, "So jolly boys now Here's God speed the plough

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"Long life and success to the farmer."

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And it finishes with a motto,

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"Industry produceth wealth,"

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and that says the harder you work, the richer you'll become.

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-In theory!

-I'm not sure that applies. In theory, exactly.

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-I'm not sure that has applied in my life, but did you ever use it?

-No, no, no.

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-You've never drunk out of it?

-It was in the cupboard.

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-So you haven't even had it on display then?

-No.

-So you won't really miss it?

-I shall not miss it!

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-Now I've got to tell you that it's not terribly valuable.

-No.

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-I suspect you thought that was the case?

-It's the fun of coming here.

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Well, I think it's going to make probably no more than £20 or £30.

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-That's fine.

-So we'll make that the estimate.

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-Right.

-But what I would like to do, if you're happy,

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is to sell it without reserve.

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-Yes.

-So if it doesn't make £20

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and sells for, say, £15...

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That's fine.

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-That's fine.

-You won't shoot me!

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No, definitely not!

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Is David putting his neck on the block here by selling Margaret's loving cup with no reserve?

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We'll find out shortly at auction.

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Meanwhile, Kate is taking a closer look at Phyllis's picture.

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This is a really striking portrait. How did you acquire it?

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Well, we just recently moved house and it was a much larger house

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and I was always looking in antique shops and I just saw her

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and I just had to buy her because her face was just so beautiful.

0:27:450:27:49

-The face that sold it to you?

-Yes.

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It's also very delicate, it's not harsh at all.

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-Do you know anything about the artist, though?

-Only a little.

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-I knew it was painted in 1862 and he was a member of the Royal Academy.

-That's right.

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And that's, er...Pre-Raphaelite.

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OK, well, it is dated quite clearly, actually,

0:28:050:28:08

-although quite small detail, here 1862.

-Right.

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But above that, the initial "F"

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and then "Smallfield"...

0:28:140:28:16

-Right.

-..the signature of the artist.

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And I think you're right -

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-it is the face, which is the best thing about it.

-Yes.

-And, for me,

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it almost looks as if the hair and her dress

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-could almost be by a different artist.

-Really?

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That perhaps deserves an explanation

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-and when I tell you about Frederick Smallfield, you'll understand why...

-Right.

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..because he was at the Royal Academy, he studied at the Academy in the 1840s

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and at that time, it meant that he was studying with a lot of the Pre-Raphaelite artists...

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-Right.

-..then went on to become leaders in their field...

-Right.

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..but of particular influence among the Pre-Raphaelites

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-was the artist, John Everett Millais...

-Right.

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..and Millais really inspired Smallfield

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and helped him to develop this very Pre-Raphaelite style

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which you can see in the face of this young girl

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and if you look carefully, you can see

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that he's captured it almost by using the technique that miniaturists use

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of perhaps using the end of the brush

0:29:220:29:25

in tiny, tiny little dots which produces this very soft effect

0:29:250:29:31

and that almost gives the texture of the skin as well

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-and that is essentially a very Pre-Raphaelite technique.

-Right.

0:29:350:29:38

So we've got here somebody who studied with the Pre-Raphaelites

0:29:380:29:42

-but somebody who is not really recognised as being a Pre-Raphaelite.

-Right.

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This is dated 1862, which you noticed.

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-The 1860s were when the best of his work was done...

-Right.

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..and the subject, of course,

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being a young girl is the best subject in portraits,

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and the most commercial, so it's got a lot going for it.

0:29:590:30:03

-The downside is that it is foxed...

-Yes.

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And foxing, that you can see here in these brown patches,

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luckily actually up here, not so much in the actual painting,

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but foxing is an actual fungus that will grow within time.

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So if that isn't seen to, that will interfere with the painting more,

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but having said that, it could be fixed fairly easily by a restorer.

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-Right.

-So why do you want to get rid of her now?

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Because we've got a smaller house.

0:30:310:30:34

I've got lots of pictures

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and we've got a houseful of historic race cars which my husband restored.

0:30:360:30:42

So vintage racing cars?

0:30:420:30:44

-Yes, it's all their classic Formula 1, '60s, '70s stuff.

-Wow!

0:30:440:30:48

-Can my dad visit you?

-He can, anytime.

0:30:480:30:50

-We've got one in the garage now.

-Ooh, fantastic!

0:30:500:30:53

-I might take you up on that!

-Right.

0:30:530:30:56

-But back to the portrait...

-Right.

0:30:560:30:57

..what did you pay for it in the antique shop, can you remember?

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-I'm sure it was about £40.

-Right, OK.

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-I'm going to say £200 to £400 but I think she might make even a bit more than that.

-Really!

0:31:050:31:11

But it's a little bit of a vague estimate, £200 to £400 but that's because I recommend a reserve,

0:31:110:31:16

-perhaps towards the lower end of the estimate.

-Right.

0:31:160:31:19

But I think she has potential perhaps

0:31:190:31:23

to make 400 plus.

0:31:230:31:25

-Really!

-I think she's lovely.

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She is beautiful, isn't she?

0:31:270:31:29

Really lovely.

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Could Phyllis make ten times what she spent on the painting?

0:31:310:31:34

It's a tantalising prediction.

0:31:340:31:36

Now if you've got any unwanted antiques and collectables that you'd like to sell,

0:31:370:31:42

we would love to see you but you have to come to one of these - a Flog It! valuation day.

0:31:420:31:47

There's two ways of finding out the dates and the venues.

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The first is to check the details in your local press, the next is to log on to...

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Click F for Flog It! and then follow the links

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and you'll find the dates and the venues for our future valuation days

0:32:020:32:06

and hopefully there's one very near you soon.

0:32:060:32:09

It's good to see sporting memorabilia on Flog It!

0:32:090:32:12

as it can do really well at auction and that's why David has got quite excited about Bill's collection.

0:32:120:32:19

Not only do they tell us about football itself

0:32:190:32:21

and a bit about the people who played at the time,

0:32:210:32:25

-they also tell us a bit about graphic art of the time too.

-Yes, yes.

0:32:250:32:30

This Aston Villa programme, for example, dated 1949 -

0:32:300:32:37

-what a wonderful piece of design that is.

-Yes, yes.

0:32:370:32:41

And the Newport County AFC programme too.

0:32:410:32:44

It's a lovely piece of design, but as I say, the interest I think goes further than that.

0:32:440:32:50

If we open this one for Arsenal versus Aston Villa,

0:32:500:32:54

we can see some of the players whose names are household names -

0:32:540:32:58

-Compton...

-Yes, yes.

0:32:580:32:59

-Presumably Leslie Compton?

-Yes, I think they both played.

0:32:590:33:03

-And he was Dennis Compton's...?

-His brother, and they both played,

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not on that particular day, but they both played at the same time, yeah.

0:33:080:33:12

And another name, Mercer, presumably Joe Mercer?

0:33:120:33:15

Yes, yes, that's Joe Mercer, yes.

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And he went on to manage Manchester City in my young days.

0:33:170:33:20

Yes, and England.

0:33:200:33:23

And England, of course, quite right, yeah. Is this your own collection?

0:33:230:33:26

No, my brother's. He actually went to all of these games.

0:33:260:33:30

Gosh! He must have spent a fortune travelling the country!

0:33:300:33:34

-He worked for British Rail for 50 years!

-Did he? Oh, good!

0:33:340:33:37

So it was subsidised rail fares?

0:33:370:33:39

-Yes, yes.

-And he made the most of it!

0:33:390:33:41

-He certainly did, yes.

-Wonderful!

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And what we've got here is just the tip of the iceberg.

0:33:430:33:47

-Yes, yes.

-How many in all, do you think?

0:33:470:33:49

-Over 200.

-Over 200?

-Yeah.

0:33:490:33:51

Right, and anything else that relates to football or is it just programmes?

0:33:510:33:55

-I've got some signed photographs.

-Have you? Right.

-Stanley Matthews.

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Stanley Matthews, right, yep.

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-And Sandy Mortensen.

-Mortensen, yes.

0:34:030:34:05

-You've got their autographs in the collection?

-Yes.

0:34:050:34:08

Amazing, and are they taking up space?

0:34:080:34:11

Do you want to clear your decks a bit?

0:34:110:34:13

No, not particularly. They're just stored away and I've got three sons,

0:34:130:34:18

they would appreciate having them but they would just be stored away.

0:34:180:34:23

-You don't think they'll regret their passing too much?

-Oh, no, no.

0:34:230:34:27

We need really to think about what the collection's worth.

0:34:270:34:30

Given that you've got these autographs,

0:34:300:34:33

-which we haven't been able to see today...

-Yes.

0:34:330:34:36

..you know, I think the whole collection is going to make the best part of £100, really.

0:34:360:34:41

-I would be inclined to go with an estimate of £80 to £120.

-Yeah.

0:34:410:34:47

A reserve a bit below £80, say £60.

0:34:470:34:51

They'll be happy with that.

0:34:510:34:54

We'll go ahead on that basis, then.

0:34:540:34:56

OK, Bill, well, I'll see you with all those other football fans

0:34:560:35:00

-in the sale room and I'll look forward to that, OK?

-I look forward to it, yes.

0:35:000:35:04

So without delay, let's kick off our second stint at auction.

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Alan Aldridge is on side with Bill's football programmes.

0:35:070:35:10

It seems our expert, David, has been very cautious with his valuation.

0:35:100:35:15

We've put £80 to £120 on the lot and there's a lot of early photographs

0:35:150:35:19

with signatures as well, autographs.

0:35:190:35:22

I think it's a lovely little lot.

0:35:220:35:24

It's our field, sporting memorabilia, we've got good clients for it.

0:35:240:35:28

It's my era as well, so I know all these guys, I watched them as a lad.

0:35:290:35:34

Fortunately or unfortunately, my dad didn't work for British Rail.

0:35:340:35:38

-I could only see Arsenal.

-But that's your team, isn't it?

-That's my programme.

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Have you seen this? Look! Look at that.

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-1948.

-I may have seen it.

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-I don't remember it.

-The Gunners.

-I may have seen it.

0:35:480:35:51

-I love this! This reminds me of the early Shell posters, you know the graphics on this.

-Yeah.

0:35:510:35:55

There's two guys at an East London School,

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and they did beautiful posters and they are very, very collectable.

0:35:590:36:03

-Have you split the lot?

-Yeah, I've split them because this is purely programmes and club programmes.

-OK.

0:36:030:36:10

-These are international programmes and autographs.

-Right.

0:36:100:36:13

You'll touch different collectors. By splitting them

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it will benefit the client, obviously, and I would say

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we'll get top end of the estimate and if things are good to us,

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we'll bang on a bit more on that as well.

0:36:240:36:27

OK, so we're looking for a bit more than £120 for this particular lot?

0:36:270:36:31

-Yes.

-And for the autographs, what are you looking for there?

0:36:310:36:34

-This is less.

-Less?

0:36:340:36:35

This is probably sort of £60, maybe £80.

0:36:350:36:40

This one, £180, £200, £250.

0:36:400:36:42

£250? Hey, now you're talking!

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-If we get carried away.

-OK, fingers crossed, fingers crossed!

0:36:440:36:48

So, will two lots mean twice the money? We'll find out shortly.

0:36:480:36:52

First, a quick reminder of the other lots just about to go under the hammer.

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Kate has given Phyllis's painting a hefty estimate of £200 to £400 but will the condition put people off

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and will the bidders love

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Margaret's loving cup with no reserve - anybody's guess!

0:37:040:37:07

I absolutely love this next lot; it's one of my favourite pieces of the sale.

0:37:070:37:11

Why are you selling it? You should be hanging onto this - it's not going to make you rich!

0:37:110:37:15

-It's just being here, isn't it?

-The Flog It! experience!

-Yes!

0:37:150:37:19

You could have come without bringing anything along.

0:37:190:37:22

Anybody is welcome at our valuation days. If you want to watch, you're more than welcome to.

0:37:220:37:27

I don't need it, it's just in a cupboard.

0:37:270:37:29

It's a nice thing, isn't it?

0:37:290:37:31

It's just a nice little keepsake from the days when farming wasn't as bleak as it is now

0:37:310:37:35

and people in this country were directly or indirectly involved in agriculture;

0:37:350:37:40

most people worked in agriculture -

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far, far more than they do today and it's just a reminder of those golden bygone days.

0:37:410:37:47

-Perhaps it will go to somebody who appreciates it.

-I hope it goes to a farmer.

0:37:470:37:51

We'll find out right now because this is your lot.

0:37:510:37:54

"God speed the plough" -

0:37:560:37:59

a nice little loving cup, 20 quid.

0:37:590:38:02

15? Who wants to start me at a tenner, then?

0:38:040:38:07

Oh, God!

0:38:070:38:09

Ten at the very back.

0:38:090:38:12

12 quickly, at £10, at 10, is there 12?

0:38:120:38:15

10 is not a lot of money.

0:38:150:38:17

It's very pretty. At £10, at the back...

0:38:180:38:21

-Oh, it's worth twice as much as that!

-£10 all going.

0:38:210:38:24

£10, it's gone, there was no reserve.

0:38:240:38:27

It's just coffee money, isn't it?

0:38:270:38:29

Yes, it was a nice thing, that was a lovely thing.

0:38:290:38:32

-You might be able to buy yourself a gin and tonic...

-Possibly.

0:38:320:38:35

The cup only sold for a tenner but it's put a big smile on Margaret's face.

0:38:350:38:41

Next it's Phyllis's painting of another pretty face, but will the condition hold it back?

0:38:410:38:46

Phyllis, time to put that watercolour to the test by Frederick Smallfield,

0:38:460:38:50

£200 to £400 we've put on this.

0:38:500:38:52

I think it's interesting because it is a slightly unpredictable market

0:38:520:38:55

-but she has got a lovely face!

-Yes, she's a beautiful girl.

-Yeah.

0:38:550:38:59

-I may be slightly optimistic but you never know...

-You don't know what will happen.

0:38:590:39:03

-There seems to be a lot of picture buyers in the room.

-We'll find out.

0:39:030:39:07

-Fingers crossed, Phyllis.

-There's got to be somebody

0:39:070:39:09

-that looks for portraits rather than scenes.

-That's right.

0:39:090:39:13

Now this by an artist called Fred Smallfield; decorative.

0:39:140:39:19

Couple of hundred quid?

0:39:190:39:22

Couple of hundred?

0:39:220:39:23

150.

0:39:240:39:26

Come on, come on!

0:39:260:39:27

-They're all sitting on their hands, aren't they?

-They are!

0:39:270:39:30

We've got to start somewhere.

0:39:300:39:32

-And if anybody says a tenner, I'll throw the gavel at them!

-20.

0:39:350:39:39

Well, that's nearly there!

0:39:390:39:41

20, I will start. 40.

0:39:440:39:46

60. 70.

0:39:460:39:48

£70.

0:39:480:39:51

80. 100?

0:39:510:39:53

At £80.

0:39:530:39:56

-90. 100, 110.

-This is more like it!

0:39:560:40:02

110, anywhere else?

0:40:020:40:05

All going.

0:40:050:40:07

-Not quite.

-No.

-Not sold.

0:40:070:40:10

-Sorry about that.

-It's all right.

-Wasn't to their taste, was it?

-No.

0:40:100:40:13

-That's what it was.

-Exactly!

-Maybe there is a space on the wall left?

-Yes.

0:40:130:40:17

-It's had a Flog It! outing, it's had an airing, it's been on TV.

-Yes.

-Maybe you should enjoy it.

-Yes.

0:40:170:40:22

And it reminds you of a day in Flog It! in the auction room.

0:40:220:40:25

Phyllis's painting will be going back on her wall,

0:40:250:40:28

where hopefully she can enjoy it for a while longer

0:40:280:40:30

and now it's time for Bill's football programmes.

0:40:300:40:33

They've been split into two lots, each with an estimate of £80 to £120 with a fixed reserve of £60.

0:40:330:40:40

-There's some wonderful things there, David, as you know!

-Yeah.

0:40:400:40:43

-The Villa programme, the Arsenal one.

-Yeah, and the '48 Cup Semi-Final.

-Yeah.

0:40:430:40:47

All late '40s, early '50s.

0:40:470:40:49

-Yeah.

-All credit to your brother and you for keeping them in such condition -

0:40:490:40:53

-that's where the value is.

-I hope so.

-They're about to go under the hammer.

0:40:530:40:56

We're going to find out what they're worth. This is it!

0:40:560:40:59

These are autographs and a few programmes -

0:41:010:41:05

a couple of nice internationals at the back, good little lot.

0:41:050:41:09

50, I've got. 60.

0:41:110:41:13

70, 80, 90,

0:41:130:41:18

100, 110, 120?

0:41:180:41:22

I've got 110, at £110 with me.

0:41:220:41:24

120, 125, 130.

0:41:240:41:31

I've got 125 with me. 125!

0:41:310:41:35

-Well done!

-I'm happy with that.

-One down, one to go. We got the top end.

0:41:350:41:39

Again we've got a collection

0:41:410:41:43

of nice early 1947-1948, mainly Birmingham teams.

0:41:430:41:50

Start me somewhere around about 160.

0:41:500:41:53

-Wow!

-170, 180, 190, 200, 210,

0:41:530:42:00

220, 230, 240.

0:42:000:42:03

250, 260, 270, 280,

0:42:030:42:09

290, 300, 310.

0:42:090:42:13

At £300, 300, at 300; is there 10?

0:42:130:42:17

-At 300!

-You've got to be pleased with that.

0:42:170:42:21

-That's £425 in total.

-You knew something, David!

0:42:210:42:23

-Yeah, very, very pleased.

-£425! Who gets the money?

0:42:230:42:27

Well, I don't know whether it will be me or my brother...

0:42:270:42:31

we didn't expect to get anything like this, really.

0:42:310:42:33

Brothers can sort it out. Look, all credit to both of you for looking after them.

0:42:330:42:38

-Ask your wife to sort it out between you and I'm sure she'll be able to do a deal.

-She can.

0:42:380:42:42

-No fighting, no brothers fighting, please!

-It's already decided!

0:42:420:42:46

-Thank you so much, Bill.

-Thank you, thank you very much.

0:42:460:42:49

Well, that's it, it's all over for our owners as we're coming to the end of another auction

0:42:540:42:59

and the highlight of the day for me had to be that big smile on Bill's face

0:42:590:43:03

when we sold the football programmes.

0:43:030:43:05

They made a total of £425, almost four times the original estimate.

0:43:050:43:10

That's the excitement of auctions. If you've not been to one, come and join us soon,

0:43:100:43:15

but you've got to bring some antiques to one of our valuation days,

0:43:150:43:19

so from Wiltshire, until then, it's cheerio.

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