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Boy, hundreds of people here, and have we got a show for you today.

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Do you know, every year on Shrove Tuesday and Ash Wednesday, the whole town of Ashbourne in

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Derbyshire comes out in force for the Royal Shrovetide Football Game.

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It looks like Flog It has had the same effect today.

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ALL: Yay!

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Once a year, the Royal Shrovetide Football Match

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plays half the town's folk against the other half,

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with the town of Ashbourne itself becoming the pitch with the goals three miles apart.

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Now, we're not letting you do anything as energetic as that today, as all they've got to do

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is dust off unwanted antiques and collectables here at the Queen Elizabeth Grammar School.

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Coming up, Will tries his best to break Michael's pewter plate.

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If I pick this up and just give... It's fairly soft.

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-You can feel it, can't you?

-Yes. Yes.

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We find out more about the game of Shrovetide football.

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-Have you played it?

-Well, I'm a big guy but I never have and it is quite tough and rough and tumble.

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-And at the auction, one item breaks all records.

-Selling.

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-Never!

-I'm shaking, do you know that?

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I'm actually shaking.

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Our team of experts is led by Michael Baggott.

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When he was 11, he saved up his dinner money for over a month to buy his first antique -

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a silver vesta case which cost him £22 - and he hasn't looked back since.

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While he was growing up around Newmarket, Will Axon's early career aspirations were as a jockey,

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although eventually he became an auctioneer and a valuer,

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which is lucky for us.

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Oh, they were the cutting edge of technology, these were, at the time.

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Well, everybody's now safely seated inside the venue

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and this is where the fun begins because Will Axon, one of our experts, is first at the tables.

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Let's take a closer look at what he's spotted.

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Michael, we're not going to leave you eating off the table,

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if we flog this for you?

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-No.

-It's not your dinner plate at home?

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-No, no, it isn't. I've got one or two more.

-Have you?

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-Pewter ones?

-No, not pewter ones. Unfortunately not.

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-A bit tricky eating off pewter because there's a bit of a lead content in there.

-Right.

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So you wouldn't really want to eat your dinner off it.

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-No. No.

-How have you come by this? You collect pewter?

-No.

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Have you got an oak furnished cottage that you display it all on?

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Unfortunately not, no. It's one I had given me years ago.

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-Given to you?

-Given to me.

-We hear that a lot on Flog It, I tell you.

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-By an old lady.

-It's not hugely valuable. Some pewter is.

-Yes.

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Early pewter, Carolean pewter is valuable.

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Can make good money, big charges, things like that.

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Once we get into the sort of 19th century, which I think this dates

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from, then quality does drop a bit and more of it is produced

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and it's produced on more of a sort of commercial scale, for decoration

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-and so on.

-Right. Right.

-I'm going to turn it upside down because

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with pewter, similar to silver but nowhere near as documented, shall we

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-say, as the silver pieces, are what we call touch marks here.

-Yes.

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-We've got a London mark there you can see.

-Yes.

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We've got a crowned X at the top of the London touch mark.

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Now that originally would denote the quality of the pewter.

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-Right.

-But like I say, once you got into the sort of 18th, 19th century,

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the regulation all went a bit higgledy piggledy and they were all

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-stamping it with the crowned X, so everyone thought the pewter was of the top quality.

-Yes.

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And down here again, we've got some sort of pseudo hallmarks to try and follow on with that sort

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-of silver tradition - the feeling of being fully hallmarked.

-Right.

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I don't know if you've seen pewter when it's been polished up, have you?

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I've seen it in some of these halls, in the big houses.

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-It literally shines like silver.

-Right.

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-Because that's originally what it was intended to impersonate.

-Oh, I see, right.

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Silver. I mean, what's it worth in monetary terms?

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-I would have thought maybe £10, £20, £25.

-Right.

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That sort of level, I'm afraid, so

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it's not going to sort of, no cruise this year I'm afraid, with the wife.

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-No.

-But if you're happy to put it into sale and

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just, shall we say, let it make what it makes, how do you feel about that?

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-That's fine, yes.

-Yeah, is that OK?

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They can be a little difficult to place because I mentioned the lead content as well.

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-That changed in the 20th century. They put less lead in it.

-Right.

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-Hence you get the sort of more sturdy, harder pewter.

-Right.

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But if I pick this up and just give it... It's fairly soft.

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You can feel it, can't you? It flexes. Well, that's the lead content in there.

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High lead content makes it more pliable. But at no reserve, just to confirm,

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-I hope it makes ten or 20 rather than five or ten.

-Money for a drink.

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Exactly. That's the way to look at it, Michael. Well done.

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At our valuation days we get people from all walks of life and all age groups

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but they don't get much younger than Beatrice here.

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What a good start into the antiques world at eight months old. Hi, Mum.

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-She's a good little girl, isn't she?

-She's been really good.

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This is what Beatrice brought in to have valued.

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The Wonders Of The Peake.

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Where did Mummy pick this up from then?

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-That is Daddy's purchase off the internet.

-Oh, was it?

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It's in very, very good condition. It dates back to 1664.

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Gosh. You've had it rebound in leather, haven't you?

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-Yes.

-So how much did you pay for it?

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It was about £30, I think.

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Well, I think you've done very, very well.

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-Thank you.

-And it's good because you can actually use this now.

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You're not going to damage the spine any more. That's beautifully done.

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Beautifully done. That is a little family heirloom for you, Beatrice, isn't it?

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What a lovely name as well.

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-Thank you.

-Ooh, bless her.

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Well, perhaps that's something Beatrice could bring on to Flog It when she's grown up,

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just like Pamela, who has something that used to belong to her mother.

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Pamela, thank you for bringing me my almost favourite thing

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on Flog It, a piece of silver.

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How did you come by this wonderful little cup?

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It's from my mother, my mother won it at her club when she worked

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and it had just been in the home and when they moved home and they died,

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I inherited it, really.

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Oh, so this inscription on the front,

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-Bovril Swimming Club, presented by Sir James Crichton-Brown to Miss G V Wilder...

-That was my mother.

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-G V Wilder was your mother.

-That's right.

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-So she won the swimming cup.

-She did.

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-Yes.

-Was she a fantastic swimmer?

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I don't think so. She never talked about it very much.

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But she was good enough to win a silver cup.

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That's something to be proud about. Now, like all silver,

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there should be a set of hallmarks which tell us a little bit more about it.

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And there we've got the almost ubiquitous M & W for Mappin and Webb.

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Huge manufacturers and retailers in the 20th century and provided

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a lot of cups like this when they were fashionable, for presentations.

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We've got the crown for Sheffield.

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We've got the lion passant, which tells us it's sterling silver and

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we've got the date letter from 1926, which is the year or the year before

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-she would have won the cup.

-Yes.

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-Do you use it much at home?

-No, I don't use it at all.

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-It lives in a cupboard.

-Therein lies the problem,

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because there are two real reasons

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why a piece of silver would be valuable.

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It is either collectable or it's useful.

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So candlesticks are still used for dinner.

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-Yes.

-To a lesser extent, tea sets and wine coasters.

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A presentation cup is almost neither use nor ornament,

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although it is quite ornamental.

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It did come with a little wire thing, you use it like for flowers.

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-For flowers. That's wonderful.

-I presume so, yes.

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Yes, they would provide a little wire, and you can put some oasis

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-in the bottom and put fresh flowers in it and they're actually when they're at their best.

-Yes.

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In terms of value, as I say, it's not tremendously valuable.

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I think at auction we would be sensible putting an estimate of £60 to £100 on it.

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-Right.

-And putting a fixed reserve of £60 which reflects the bullion value

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-of the cup.

-Yes.

-So if you're happy to do that...?

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Yes, I am, rather than it sitting in a cupboard.

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It's better out than in the cupboard, isn't it?

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Michael's always happy when he's got a bit of silver in his hands.

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Next up, Will has found something that we've already heard about

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earlier on in the show - something unique to Ashbourne.

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Once a year, the whole town turns out to take part

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in a free-for-all game.

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Shrovetide football. There's no offside rule.

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In fact, not many rules at all.

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Only three. No mechanical means can be used, such as a car.

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If the ball is out of play for over an hour, it's void. And, finally,

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if a goal is scored before five pm, the whole game starts over again.

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So let's meet someone who's had the bruises to prove he's taken part.

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I spotted you in the queue outside here with this print, and it intrigued me really.

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I came along and I said, "Hang on a minute, what's going on?

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"Prince Charles being carried aloft with a football?"

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I didn't think that was his sort of scene. And then I see here,

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Ashbourne Royal Shrovetide Football, and then talking to you,

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it triggered what I've seen about Shrovetide football.

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I remember in my distant memory that there are a lot of people that, over

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a few days end up getting very muddy, very tired, and some of them quite

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badly hurt with this game, Royal Shrovetide Football.

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-That's correct.

-Fascinating.

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Tell me about it, it's something Ashbourne is well known for.

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Well, it goes back to well before the First World War,

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actually, where the gentlemen used to have shirt ties and trousers on.

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-Yes.

-And it just carried on to the present day.

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Right. And it's an intriguing game.

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I mean, you know it well, because you've taken part, haven't you?

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-Yes, I have, yes.

-Yeah. On several occasions.

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-And you will do in the future?

-Oh, yes, yeah.

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-I started playing Shrovetide when I was 14.

-Really?

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Quite brave, then, cos there's some big lads who play it, aren't there?

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-Yes. Yeah. Yep.

-And the basic premise of the game, if I've got it right, tell me,

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you're meant to get the ball from one end to the other, is it?

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Yeah. From Ashbourne car park, there's a plinth.

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-Yes.

-And once it's thrown up or turned up it's one and a half miles

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down to Clifton and one and a half miles down to Sturston.

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-And that's where the sort of, the goals are?

-Yes, yeah.

-Right.

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-Plinth and you've got like a circle in it and you have to tap it three times.

-Tap the ball three times.

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Once you've tapped it three times it's your ball.

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-You keep it?

-Yes.

-For good?

-Yes. Yeah.

-How long does it go on for?

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-Two days.

-And you can sort of dip in and out whenever you want?

-Yes. You can do.

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You can sort of have a go in the morning and then pop home, have your tea, and join in again.

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-Later on, yes, yeah. And all the shops and that are all boarded up.

-Are they?

-Yeah.

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Well, this print here, looking at it, obviously sort of commemorates one of these.

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I mean, looking here, 5th March 2003.

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-That's correct, yeah.

-And Prince Charles came along.

-He did, yes.

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And did he take part? Did you get a chance to sort of wrestle him to the ground for the ball?

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-No. He came and threw the ball up, turned the ball up.

-Turned the ball up?

-Yeah.

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-Right. So that's quite an honour.

-It is, yeah.

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-You've actually got a key to who the people are.

-Yes, correct. Yeah.

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Obviously we've got to talk about value. This is Flog It.

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It is signed in pencil I notice, by the artist, which is good because

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that limits the edition, as well as this number here. Three out of 850.

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I mean, this was on sale in Ashbourne, was it? You bought it?

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No. I won it on the raffle.

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-On the same day?

-Well, it was one of the special evenings.

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OK. How much did you have to pay for your strip of tickets?

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-£5.

-£5. OK. So, I mean, it's got to be worth that, hasn't it, for the framing and the glazing?

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I think, let it make what it makes.

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-Yeah.

-It's the right part of the world to sell it!

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Difficult to value, but I think we've got to put an estimate on it, haven't we?

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Let's say, what, £30 to £50, something like that?

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You wouldn't get it framed for that sort of money

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-so it's got to be worth that, but I think we should go without reserve.

-That's fine.

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It's a hard thing to actually pin a value on, so you've decided to let it go. No reserve.

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We're guaranteed a sale and I look forward to seeing you at the sale.

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Bring a ball along on the day. We'll have a game in the car park.

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-Yes.

-Andrew, it's been a pleasure.

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Well, I'm not sure the BBC health and safety department will be happy with that,

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but with any luck, we'll get as many bidders as people take part in the Shrovetide football match.

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We're now about halfway through our day and we've been working flat out.

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Everybody's having a marvellous time, aren't we?

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-Yes.

-Good, good, but right now it's time to up the tempo.

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This is where we put our valuations to the test.

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Let's get straight over to the auction room.

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We've got a mixed bag of items going under the hammer today.

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Michael's pewter plate might not look that impressive, but collectors

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can sometimes surprise us on Flog It.

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We've also got Pamela's swimming trophy. And, last but not least,

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the interesting Shrovetide football print.

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And this is where all our action is happening today, the Mackworth Hotel in Derbyshire.

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On the rostrum, we have auctioneer Charles Hanson, who I'm going to have a chat to in just a moment.

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The room is filling up. There's an excitement, there's a buzz about the place,

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and hopefully, all of this lot are going to bid on some of our items.

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This modern print belongs to Andrew.

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He paid £5 for this at a ball he went to.

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And he thinks this is the best area to sell it - lots of

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local interest because this is big business up in Derbyshire.

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-Shrovetide footie!

-Yeah.

-So tell me all about it.

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Have you played it?

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Well, I'm a big guy, Paul, but I never have.

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And it is quite tough and rough and tumble. Not my sort of thing.

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-You can handle it.

-Well, maybe.

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But this, obviously from 2003, it captures international interest.

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The press come, the media come to watch the event.

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The uppards against the downards. It's a great sport.

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What sort of price would you put on this if it came into the rooms today?

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I think, Paul, it's the right place to sell it. It's local.

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I would say between £50 and £80.

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Oh, that's good news, cos we're looking for £30 to £50.

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-Great. Good.

-Looks like we scored a goal there!

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I hope so.

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Remember, both buyers and sellers have to pay commission at auction

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which can vary from sale room to sale room.

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Here, at Hansons Auctioneers and Valuers,

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the commission is 15% plus VAT.

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And on the rostrum today is auctioneer David Greatwood.

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Serving up right now, we've got a wonderful 19th-century pewter plate.

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It's not a lot of money, but I tell you what, it's a cracking piece of kit, and I love pewter.

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And you can collect all sorts of sizes of pewter plates - broad rimmed and some wriggle work.

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This is a good start to a collection.

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-You like this though, don't you, Sylvia?

-Yes. It's all right.

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But Michael wants to sell it.

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It doesn't fit in with anything else we've got in the house.

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-OK.

-So we're going to lighten the load in the house,

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if you like. We've been collecting for a lot of years.

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Well, hopefully, Michael, it will be worth a little more

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than the £20 or £30 we're expecting.

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Yeah, I hope so, but bear in mind it is sort of 19th century, it's late,

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it's mass-produced - hence, you know, the low estimate.

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OK. We're going to find out what the bidders think. It's going under the hammer now.

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This 19th-century pewter plate with a London touch mark

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and commission's here close. I'm straight in here at 12. 14.

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£16. I'm bid at 16. I have at 16.

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At 18, I'll take. At 16. At 18. 20.

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22. 25. 28.

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£28. At the end of the road. 28.

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30, new place. 32, madam.

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30. In the middle of the room at £30 and selling at 30.

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At £30. The pewter plate, £30, and selling at 30.

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Well done. £30.

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I'm pleased with that.

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-Well, every penny helps, doesn't it?

-It certainly does. It's all right.

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Well, that was more than we all thought.

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What a great start to the auction.

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Let's hope our luck continues with our next item, the silver trophy.

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Well, we're swimming along nicely now, and let's hope we just don't

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tread water on this next lot, because it's a presentation swimming cup belonging to Pamela.

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-In fact, it was your mum's.

-That's right.

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She won it when she worked at the Bovril factory.

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-She did, yes.

-They had swimming competitions there?

-Must have done.

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I didn't hear a lot about it but she must have done, mustn't she?

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Why are you selling this, Pamela?

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Well, I don't swim.

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None of the family swim, otherwise, you know, I could have presented it

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to them. So decluttering again.

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Everyone's decluttering, I know. It's priced to sell, isn't it?

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It is. And the price of bullion, I hate to say, hasn't been higher.

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-Perfect time.

-Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, hopefully, we'll start you off decluttering in the right manner and the right fashion.

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If not, I'll have to have another go.

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There you go, showing on my left there.

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The George V silver twin-handled trophy cup.

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Nice one with a presentation inscription, made by Mappin & Webb,

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-Sheffield 1926.

-Good name. Good maker's name.

-Interest here.

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Straight in at 75. 80 I'm bid. At 80 I have. At 80.

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Where's five now? At 80. Five.

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I'm out. At 85. 90 I'll take.

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At £85. On the right-hand side.

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At 85. Any advance now? At £85.

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All done?

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Well, that was quick, wasn't it?

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£85. We had a guide of 60 to 100.

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-That was straight in at the deep end.

-It was, wasn't it?

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They are worth what they're worth and you'll find bidders will often leave

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-commission bids very close to one another for bullion pieces.

-Happy?

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Yes, thank you.

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Another good result.

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Can the Shrovetide picture complete the successful run?

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Going under the hammer right now is something very special to this area and only to this area.

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It's the Shrovetide footie match, isn't it?

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It's a shame, Andrew, you didn't bring the ball in, eh?

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But anyway, it's a great print, it's a modern print, and it's a limited edition.

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-It is, yes.

-And we've got a value of around £30 to £40, Will.

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And I had a chat to the auctioneer and it is big business up here.

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Everybody joins in. It doesn't get better than this for local interest, let's face it.

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Brilliant. I mean, we said there's not a huge amount of value in the print itself,

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but the story was great, you know, this Shrovetide football, and I think I rather foolishly said

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on camera that I would probably try and turn up for the next game, and he's going to hold me to it.

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So next time, when I'm covered in bruises and perhaps an arm in a sling

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and on crutches, you'll know that I made it. But I'm seriously tempted, you know!

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OK. OK.

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We might just film that.

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-Yes.

-Well, good luck, both of you.

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Very fine print after S J Avery,

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of course, the local sporting event in the Shrovetide.

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So who's going to start me off at £20 only for it, surely?

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20 anywhere now? Surely, £20. 20 bid, thank you.

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Where are all the footballers?

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You couldn't get it framed for that, could you?

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25. 28. 30. 32.

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£32 seated with the lady, at 32.

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Any advances? With you, madam, at 32.

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Any advance now? 35 surely now.

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At £32, seated dead centre at £32.

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Last chance at £32.

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Hammer's gone down - £32.

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It's not about the value, it's about the history, the social history

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-of the game really, isn't it?

-Exactly the point, Paul.

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-And you've given someone the opportunity to own it and hang it on their wall.

-Yeah.

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-Brilliant.

-And hopefully tell thousands of viewers that are

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watching who hadn't heard of this, and hopefully they might turn up and watch Will get in a scrum.

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Yeah. I'm the one at the bottom!

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Well, we'll definitely watch out for that.

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Next, one of the most magnificent stately homes that I've ever visited

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currently houses a fascinating exhibition.

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When you catch your first glimpse of Chatsworth House as

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you travel through the grounds, it really is quite overpowering.

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It's a magnificent building, and it's hard to sum it up in words to do it justice.

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I feel really emotional right now.

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You have to be here to experience this architectural delight.

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It was built by Bess of Hardwick in the 1500s and it's been

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handed down through many different generations of the Cavendish family

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who have all left their mark on this building, the grounds and their extensive collections.

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One member of the family who caught the collective imagination like no

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other was Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire.

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Her life was recently portrayed in a movie called The Duchess,

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some of which was filmed right here at Chatsworth.

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The South Sketch Gallery of the house is full of artefacts

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that Georgiana bought or collected herself. In fact, it's dedicated to her.

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She was a celebrated beauty, a socialite,

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and famous for her wonderful sense of style

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and political campaigning, but perhaps more infamously

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for her love of gambling and her rather unusual marital arrangements.

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In 1774, on her 17th birthday,

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Georgiana married William Cavendish, who was the fifth Duke of Devonshire

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and one of the richest men in the country.

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The marriage was an unhappy one.

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For many years, Georgiana was unable to produce a male heir

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and after introducing William to her best friend,

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Lady Elizabeth Foster, she spent the rest of her life as part of an infamous menage a trois.

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And here are the paintings of the two women and the duke,

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and this is Georgiana, and she's absolutely stunning.

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It's painted by Sir Joshua Reynolds in the 18th century.

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This is her best friend Elizabeth, also known as Bess,

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again painted by Reynolds. And here's the duke in the middle,

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looking rather proud and smug and pleased with himself.

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And so he should, really, shouldn't he?

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They all lived here in the house and both gave birth to his children.

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In fact, the duke also had a child by a maid that worked at the house.

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But finally Georgiana gave birth to the long-awaited Cavendish heir.

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And this three-sided relationship continued right up until Georgiana's death

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and then the duke married her best friend, Bess.

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Georgiana's personal situation became even more complicated during her unhappy marriage

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when she fell in love with the second Earl Grey and fell pregnant.

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We've been given special access to a fascinating letter from this time.

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The duke found out and he exiled her to France, hoping maybe not many people would find out.

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Now, childbirth was risky at this particular time for mother and for child. Survival rate was quite low.

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So Georgiana wrote this letter so her son could read this when he was old enough.

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This letter was written in her own blood, and this explains why she did this.

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I know it sounds dramatic, but this was Georgiana. Just listen to this.

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"My dear little boy, as soon as you are old enough to understand this letter, it will be given to you.

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"It contains the only present I can make you, my blessing, written with my blood."

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Incredible.

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"God bless you, my child.

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"Your poor mother,

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"G Devonshire."

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That's so sad, isn't it?

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As you can see, look, the blood is fading.

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The more she's writing, the more it's fading.

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It is very melodramatic, but that's Georgiana.

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Because she loved gambling, in fact she was really addicted to it,

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she was in debt all her life, and here's a summary of some of the gambling debts.

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The gambling debts amount to around £61,859.

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Now, that's a lot of money back then.

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Today, that's equivalent, let's say, of earnings of around £40 million.

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Now, they do say you can win some, you can lose some, but I think she was losing all the time.

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Wasn't very good at cards.

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She was living on a knife-edge, wasn't she?

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Here, look, there's a list of all the people working on the estate,

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tradesmen, people like that, that haven't been paid,

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and they're owed £183, which was a great deal of money.

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It took her family decades to pay these debts off after her death.

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Georgiana was definitely melodramatic and terrible with money

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but let's not forget she was a political campaigner, arbiter of fashion and taste

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and one of the most influential women of the day.

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When Georgiana walked into a room, everybody stopped and stared.

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She had a wonderful, alluring presence and, as we've seen from her letters, she was a loving mother

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but the time she lived in saw her bound by convention.

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But what a fascinating story. I'd love to have met her.

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Our valuation day at Queen Elizabeth Grammar School in Ashbourne

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is in full swing and a bit of colour has been added to the proceedings.

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-We first must mention, Bill, because you're not in standard clothing today, are you?

-No!

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So you are...?

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I am Ashbourne's Town Crier.

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Oh, marvellous, marvellous. Well, thank you for coming down today.

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Now, who do these belong to?

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They're actually from my side of the family.

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They originally belonged to my grandfather,

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who was an inveterate hoarder.

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-Oh, marvellous.

-And when he died in the early '70s, for some reason or other I hung on to these two items

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and, you know, couldn't be bothered to throw them away.

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-First thing, people might be looking at that, wondering what that is.

-Yes.

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So let us reveal the first mystery of today.

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And that comes out and it's marked and dated for 1874.

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And we turn it and we've basically got...

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a Swedish army knife.

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And they're very useful knives because they lock into place.

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If you're in a wilderness environment and you need a knife you can trust,

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that isn't going to fold back on you.

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-No.

-These barrel knives, as they're called, are made

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-in many different sizes and this is about the smallest you'll get.

-Yeah.

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This is more intriguing.

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Closed boxes.

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Very intriguing indeed.

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Ooh, curiouser and curiouser.

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Have you got any idea what it is?

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I haven't got a clue. It's something I've been looking at for years and years, "Shall I throw it away?"

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It looks too precision-made.

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"One day I might find out, it looks too good to throw away."

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I think your point, Jenny, that it's precision-made, is spot on.

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There is one problem with this.

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It has a sliding aperture here with a thumbnail groove

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and if we could remove that panel we would know everything.

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-There is only one small problem. We cannot remove that panel.

-No!

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I have tried, all our off-screen valuers have tried to open this at the peril to our thumbnails.

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I have two ideas what it might be

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and I'm fairly confident that one of them is right.

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The first is that it is a quill cutter.

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-Interesting.

-So if you think you've got a little quill feather

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and you pop it in there, into an aperture that

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-would be revealed, and you do that and it clicks the shape.

-Yes. Yes.

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The other thing, the more lethal and gruesome thing it could be,

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and this is what I think it is, is a scarifier.

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I'm afraid,

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before the NHS and before we had all these wonderful drugs,

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one thing you did if you felt poorly might be to bleed yourself copiously.

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-Yes.

-Yes.

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And I think this is actually a guard

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for a section of very fine lancet blades.

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-Interesting.

-And you would remove that,

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place it on the area you wish to be bled or cut

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and then, by pressing this, that would send all the blades

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through the skin and allow you to bleed freely.

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-Interesting.

-And that is probably why you've got

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this very firm fixed cover, so you don't cut yourself accidentally.

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-Yes.

-What would your grandfather be doing with that?

-Goodness knows.

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Did he know what it was for? Could he get it open?

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As far as I know, he never managed to open it,

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and it had nothing to do with his trade because he was a painter and decorator.

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Well, this is going to be a challenge for the auctioneer.

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-It dates to about 1830.

-As early as that?

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But I think they work quite well together as two intriguing items

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that aren't everything they appear at first sight.

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-Yes. Very much so.

-Would you put them in the same lot?

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Pop them in the same lot,

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because they're going to appeal to the same collector,

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with the same mind for the curious mechanical bladed items.

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-Any ideas of what the value might be?

-No real idea at all.

-No.

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I think this, being a smaller version, is worth £40 to £60.

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Oh, that's not bad.

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This, with the slight bit of damage and the reservation that

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you still might not be able to get that cap open, is maybe £40 to £60.

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-So about the same value each.

-About the same value.

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So we're heading for that inevitable auctioneer's valuation which I try to avoid.

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-The good old 80-120.

-You've seen Flog It before.

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Very much so.

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So let's put them in at 80 to 120.

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-Yeah.

-Let's give the auctioneer a little bit of discretion and put, say, a fixed reserve of £70 on them.

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Fine. And I'm glad you've solved the mystery for me as well

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-after all these years.

-Halfway, Bill, halfway.

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'Well, we can't be sure what it is, but hopefully the bidders will know.

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'There's no disguising what our next item is, that's for sure.'

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OK. Game on. Well, it would be if we had the other half of the set.

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Where is it, Sandra? Are you sure it's not at home?

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-It's definitely not at home.

-Have you had a jolly good look?

-Yes.

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Everybody's looked and searched high and low. We can't find the other.

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This is possibly one of the best chess sets, or part sets,

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I've come across in a long time.

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So how long have you had these?

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They've been in my possession for the last three years

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but my mother before that had them for about 40 years.

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-And where did she get them from, do you know?

-My late uncle's,

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when he died, so they were just found in his possession.

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-And that's as far as you can trace the story back?

-Yes.

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We don't even know if he played chess. As far as I know, he didn't.

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Did he tour at all for a living? Was he in the Navy?

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Nothing like that, no. He never got married.

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Because, you know, these come from Sorrento, these are Italian.

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Right. That's what I can't understand.

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He wasn't a traveller at all or anything like that.

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I'm pretty sure these are made in around about the 1940s, 1950s,

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and made in Sorrento,

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renowned for its carving work and its inlay work.

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Good tourist pieces of the day, so this isn't a rare set, or half set.

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I'm sure there's some more knocking around, but they are hand-carved.

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-Brilliant.

-So, there's got to be some out there.

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The condition is absolutely perfect,

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apart from the little cross missing on the castle there, but otherwise,

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look at the quality of the carving when you turn these figures around.

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-Look at the king and queen. You see the folds in her dress.

-Yes.

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-Isn't that stunning?

-The bun at the back of her hair. Beautiful.

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-The bases are made of black walnut, can you see that?

-Yeah.

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-OK. That's grown in Italy.

-Right.

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I'm pretty sure this is a boxwood, or it might be a poplar,

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but it's a good soft wood, a nice easy soft wood to turn and carve.

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Oh, right.

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But the detail on the pawns, because every one's different,

0:31:000:31:04

and on normal chess sets they're all the same, aren't they?

0:31:040:31:07

-The pawns are, yeah.

-It's a shame it doesn't have a lot of age.

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-That's the only thing it's got going against it. And the fact that it's a part set!

-Yeah.

0:31:100:31:16

-Oh, dear.

-I think we can put these into auction with a value of around £100 to £150.

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-OK.

-Keep the reserve at £80.

0:31:220:31:25

-Right. OK. Yeah. That's fine.

-What do you think?

0:31:250:31:28

Yeah, that's absolutely fine, because I don't really want them.

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Why do you want to sell them anyway?

0:31:320:31:34

Because it's half a chess set, basically!

0:31:340:31:36

-It's a silly question really, isn't it?

-And I don't play chess. Yes.

0:31:360:31:40

I used to love playing chess with my father.

0:31:400:31:43

Thanks for making my day with these, because you know I like my woodwork,

0:31:430:31:46

I love my treen, and this is right up my street. It really is.

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Thank you very much as well.

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I'll definitely keep my fingers crossed for the success of the chess set.

0:31:510:31:55

Now, Kathleen and Ralph have brought in an interesting piece of jewellery

0:31:550:31:58

for Will to have a look at.

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Thank you for coming along today and bringing a lovely piece of jewellery.

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It really caught my eye. Is this something you've bought? You collect jewellery of this type?

0:32:040:32:09

Yes, I do, but I bought it off me brother, about...26 years ago.

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We might as well get to the point. What did you have to pay him for it?

0:32:140:32:17

-£50.

-Sounds all right, doesn't it?

0:32:170:32:20

Do you know what it is and what it's made of?

0:32:200:32:23

I know it's 15-carat gold.

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-You're right. It is gold.

-Blue enamel.

-Blue enamel...

-Diamonds.

-Diamonds.

0:32:240:32:28

I'll get me coat.

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Let you take over!

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You're dead right. Diamond-centred sort of star

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to the top of this wonderful blue enamelling.

0:32:350:32:38

I love that sort of deep blue.

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And then you've got this very sort of intricate sort of gold wirework

0:32:400:32:44

around the central panel

0:32:440:32:46

and then you've got this sort of polka dot border, again,

0:32:460:32:49

which is rather attractive, isn't it?

0:32:490:32:52

And it's good, the condition it's in,

0:32:520:32:54

because as soon as you get the enamel either cracked or chipped,

0:32:540:32:58

then it's really quite a difficult job to get it repaired.

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A lot of the time the firms that repair enamelling, a good tip here,

0:33:010:33:04

are sort of car badge manufacturers or restorers because a lot of the old car badges were enamelled, you see.

0:33:040:33:11

If I turn it over, we can see that it's stamped 15-carat

0:33:110:33:14

and then in this glazed panel at the back

0:33:140:33:16

we've got a sort of plaited matt of... You know what it is?

0:33:160:33:20

-Hair.

-You're right, hair.

0:33:200:33:21

That's typical of morning brooches, which is a little bit, you know,

0:33:210:33:25

-some people don't really like the idea of wearing jewellery with sort of dead person's hair in it.

-No.

0:33:250:33:32

I like it. I mean, do you wear it?

0:33:320:33:35

-No.

-You don't?

-No.

-Where does it live?

0:33:350:33:37

-In the drawer.

-In the drawer. What made you buy it from your brother?

0:33:370:33:41

-Cos I liked it!

-You liked it from the back of the drawer?

0:33:410:33:43

-I think I wore it about three times.

-OK. Well, let's start in the centre.

0:33:430:33:47

-We've got a diamond, reasonable size, about a quarter of a carat.

-Yeah.

0:33:470:33:52

The diamond in the middle's got to be worth £100 on its own.

0:33:520:33:54

And the rest of it, the gold value, is probably another 100 on top,

0:33:540:33:58

-so I would say put it in at sort of 200, 250, that sort of figure.

-Right.

0:33:580:34:03

-Would you be happy with that?

-Yes. Yeah.

-Yeah?

0:34:030:34:06

Are you going to buy yourself more jewellery? I see you have a wonderful cameo brooch on your turtleneck.

0:34:060:34:11

No, it'll go to me grandchildren.

0:34:110:34:14

-One's studying to be a doctor.

-OK.

-And the other one is in the last year of teaching.

0:34:140:34:18

-So the one studying to be a doctor will be straight down the student bar.

-Yes.

0:34:180:34:22

We know what these doctors are like, and nurses, they know how to party.

0:34:220:34:26

-Well, look, we'll recap. We've agreed on a £200 to £300 estimate.

-Yes.

0:34:260:34:30

-We'll reserve it at that. Can I put a bit of discretion on that reserve?

-Certainly.

0:34:300:34:34

-Good. 200 with discretion.

-Yeah.

-And let's hope we get it away for you on the day. I'll see you there.

0:34:340:34:39

-Thank you very much.

-Not at all.

0:34:390:34:41

The Victorian morning brooch is going off to auction in this part of the programme,

0:34:410:34:45

along with Bill and Jenny's knife and mystery object.

0:34:450:34:48

And the wooden chess set, which I thought was absolutely fabulous,

0:34:480:34:52

but does auctioneer Charles Hanson agree with me?

0:34:520:34:55

The commission here for buyers and sellers is 15% plus VAT.

0:34:580:35:03

But if an item reaches more than £500, it's 10% plus VAT.

0:35:030:35:08

Charles, the bad news is, half the set's missing actually.

0:35:150:35:19

But the good news is what we have got is absolutely fabulous,

0:35:190:35:23

quality like I haven't seen before.

0:35:230:35:25

I think the quality is superb.

0:35:250:35:28

The detail, the expressions even, it's all there. They're exquisite.

0:35:280:35:31

-They belong to Sandra.

-Yes.

-And obviously for not much longer.

0:35:310:35:35

I've given this £100 to £150 as a price guide and I expect them to, well, achieve that and a lot more.

0:35:350:35:40

Yeah. I think that is an enticing guide. I think it's well pitched

0:35:400:35:44

and hopefully with the right audience they'll race away.

0:35:440:35:47

You don't really need the other half. They would look great

0:35:470:35:50

just on a low table like this, a walnut table,

0:35:500:35:53

maybe with a table lamp here, just as figures by themselves.

0:35:530:35:56

Yeah. I think they are, as you say, stand-alone objects to really admire.

0:35:560:36:00

Have you many chess enthusiasts here which have admired them?

0:36:000:36:04

-Yes, we have.

-Interest?

-From all parts of the world, so we're excited.

-That's what auctions are all about.

0:36:040:36:09

-That's why they're so fascinating.

-Yes.

-Anything can happen on the day.

0:36:090:36:12

-You never know.

-Wait and see cos this one will be, hopefully, checkmate at the end of the programme.

0:36:120:36:18

Auctioneer David Greatwood will be back on the rostrum to sell the chess set shortly

0:36:180:36:23

but first we've got Bill and his grandfather's rather unusual collection of items.

0:36:230:36:29

-Bill and Jenny, it's great to see you again, in your civvies.

-Yes.

0:36:290:36:33

-Without the regalia.

-Instead of having my mufti on, as they say.

0:36:330:36:36

Michael's picked out this Swedish pocket knife

0:36:360:36:39

and the mystery object... which is a scarifier, really.

0:36:390:36:41

I think it is, yes, yes. Having done a bit more homework on it,

0:36:410:36:45

after the valuation day, but I still don't think you can get into it.

0:36:450:36:49

-I think that's a minus point, isn't it?

-You can't have everything.

-No. No. No.

0:36:490:36:55

Since the valuation, you've had a chat to the auctioneer, haven't you?

0:36:550:36:58

And we've had the reserve removed.

0:36:580:37:01

We thought, what are we going to do with it if it doesn't sell?

0:37:010:37:04

It'll just go back into a drawer and there it will stay for goodness knows how long.

0:37:040:37:09

It should make its money, whatever.

0:37:090:37:11

The knife alone should bring it into a reasonable price, I would have thought.

0:37:110:37:15

Well, I tell you what, Bill,

0:37:150:37:16

we're going to find out right now what it's worth because it's going under the hammer. Good luck.

0:37:160:37:21

We have a 19th-century Swedish barrel army knife,

0:37:220:37:26

together with a case scarifier.

0:37:260:37:28

I have commission interest here at £20 anyway. £20 I'm bid, 20.

0:37:280:37:30

Any advance at £20?

0:37:300:37:32

I'll take two surely. 20.

0:37:320:37:34

And two now surely. 20. Two. Five I'm bid.

0:37:340:37:36

Jeopardy of no reserve, isn't it?

0:37:360:37:38

At £25. And selling. Make no mistake.

0:37:380:37:41

It's against you all at £25.

0:37:410:37:43

Last chance. 25, and selling at £25.

0:37:430:37:47

-It's gone.

-OK.

-It's £25 I didn't have before.

0:37:470:37:51

Exactly, I suppose so. When you look at it on the bright side, the cup's always half full.

0:37:510:37:55

Yes. I think a collector's got a lovely start, maybe, to a collection there.

0:37:550:38:01

But I would have liked to see it make a little bit more but it's gone, it's gone.

0:38:010:38:06

It didn't do very well, but I don't think Bill and Jenny minded that much.

0:38:060:38:11

Will the Victorian brooch fare any better?

0:38:110:38:15

I absolutely love this next lot and I bet you do as well.

0:38:150:38:18

It's real quality and hopefully that's going to shine through and reflect in the value.

0:38:180:38:22

-Kathleen and Ralph, it's great to see you.

-Thank you.

0:38:220:38:24

It's so stunning, it shouldn't be called a morning brooch.

0:38:240:38:28

I love that Prussian blue. No-one else in the family wants it?

0:38:280:38:31

-No. Me daughter or me granddaughters don't really want it.

-And she's over there now.

0:38:310:38:34

Fussy taste, that's what it is!

0:38:340:38:37

Well, you're right about the morning brooch sort of angle because, yes,

0:38:370:38:40

-most people think morning brooch is - well, certainly the Victorian ones - black and you know...

-Dour.

0:38:400:38:45

Exactly. But this is that sort of neoclassical morning brooch

0:38:450:38:48

where they started to use those enamels, those nice bright enamels,

0:38:480:38:51

seed pearls, diamonds, so, fingers crossed, someone here will buy it.

0:38:510:38:56

And at £200 to £300, it's worth every penny, isn't it?

0:38:560:38:58

Let's see what this blue gem does.

0:38:580:39:00

There we go, it's a gold, diamond and enamel oval morning brooch

0:39:020:39:06

and I must go straight in at £120 bid.

0:39:060:39:09

-That's good to start with.

-At 120.

0:39:090:39:11

Where's 130? 120. 130.

0:39:110:39:13

140. 150.

0:39:130:39:15

-Come on.

-160. 170. 180. 180 still with me. At 180.

0:39:150:39:21

All done now? Last chance at £180.

0:39:210:39:24

All done at 180.

0:39:240:39:26

-Not sold.

-He didn't sell it.

-Unsold.

0:39:260:39:29

Unsold.

0:39:290:39:31

It's the morning brooch thing, when you read it in the catalogue.

0:39:310:39:34

I mean, I thought it was worth 200.

0:39:340:39:36

I still think it's worth 200.

0:39:360:39:38

-So do I.

-Yeah. So I would say to you...

0:39:380:39:40

-I'll have to wear it again, then, Paul.

-Yeah! Why don't you do that?

-I will.

0:39:400:39:45

Oh, go on, cos you're very stylish.

0:39:450:39:47

-It would suit you, and all your friends would be envious.

-I know.

0:39:470:39:50

Real class, and so is our final item.

0:39:520:39:56

Sandra's chess set.

0:39:560:39:57

It's beautifully made

0:39:570:39:58

but will the fact that it's only half a set put the buyers off?

0:39:580:40:02

Let's hope not. I've been looking forward to this moment.

0:40:020:40:05

It's my turn to be the expert and I've got a big smile on my face cos I've been thinking of you, Sandra.

0:40:050:40:10

Since we did the valuation day, I can't stop thinking about that wonderful chess set that I valued

0:40:100:40:16

and I did say to you, you know, on a good day this could fly away, couldn't it?

0:40:160:40:20

-That's what you said.

-And I'm still thinking that, do you know that?

0:40:200:40:23

I know I've got to be positive. It might not fly away but I tell you what, it's going to be sold,

0:40:230:40:28

-and even if it sells for £150 you'll be pleased, won't you?

-I will, if it sells for 150, yes!

0:40:280:40:32

-Cos you thought it would be worth about £20.

-That's right.

0:40:320:40:34

-Cos there's only half of it there.

-Yes.

-Shall we watch this go through?

0:40:340:40:38

-Yeah.

-Here we go, this is it.

0:40:380:40:39

Italian half chess set.

0:40:410:40:43

And we've got four telephone bids in.

0:40:430:40:45

Portugal, Holland, and Germany and Denmark amongst other places.

0:40:450:40:50

-Did you hear that? Interest from Portugal, Holland, Germany and Denmark.

-Really?

0:40:500:40:54

I'll go straight in at £220.

0:40:540:40:57

-Never!

-£220 I'm bid here. At 220.

0:40:570:41:00

-That's a great start.

-In the room at 220.

0:41:000:41:02

With you, Charles, at 220. 240 if you wish.

0:41:020:41:05

-OK.

-240. 260.

-280, sir?

0:41:050:41:08

280. I have 300.

0:41:080:41:10

-Yes.

-320. I have 350.

-380?

0:41:100:41:14

-Yes.

-380. 400.

-Is that 420?

0:41:140:41:17

-Yes.

-420. 450.

0:41:170:41:18

-480. 500.

-Is that 520? Yes.

0:41:180:41:22

-520. 540.

-Never!

0:41:220:41:24

-560. 580.

-I can't believe it.

0:41:240:41:27

-600. 620.

-Never!

0:41:270:41:30

650. And I'm out. My commission bid at 650 is out.

0:41:300:41:33

At 650 on the first phone.

0:41:330:41:35

-680.

-Oh, my.

-£700.

0:41:350:41:39

A lovely moment. This is what auctions are all about.

0:41:390:41:41

-I can't believe this.

-780. 800, David?

0:41:410:41:45

-800. And 20.

-820!

-850.

0:41:450:41:49

-850. 880.

-Sir, 880.

0:41:490:41:52

I can go to Italy now for a holiday! HE LAUGHS

0:41:520:41:55

Hasn't finished yet.

0:41:550:41:57

1,100. 1,200?

0:41:570:41:58

No. 1,100. 1,100.

0:41:580:42:00

I'll go to the third phone, Ruth.

0:42:000:42:03

1,200.

0:42:030:42:05

Is that a bid? 1,200. 1,300, Charles?

0:42:050:42:07

1,300. 1,400, Ruth?

0:42:070:42:10

-1,400. 1,500?

-1,500, sir?

0:42:100:42:12

-No.

-No. £1,400 on the third phone.

0:42:120:42:15

Last chance in the room. At £1,400.

0:42:150:42:17

I'm going to kiss somebody in a minute.

0:42:170:42:20

Watch out, it might be you, Paul.

0:42:200:42:22

1,500. 1,600.

0:42:230:42:25

-1,600.

-I can't believe it!

0:42:250:42:28

1,800. 1,900, Tom?

0:42:280:42:30

I'm shaking, do you know that? I'm actually shaking.

0:42:300:42:33

I'll take 2,200. Yes? 2,200. 2,400?

0:42:330:42:37

On the fourth phone at 2,200.

0:42:370:42:39

Never too late in the room. Come along, don't be shy. At 2,200.

0:42:390:42:43

2,000.

0:42:430:42:45

-Yes!

-Yes!

-2,200.

-APPLAUSE

0:42:450:42:48

Absolutely brilliant!

0:42:480:42:50

That's what it's all about, moments like that.

0:42:500:42:53

-I can't believe it!

-That's what we want to see.

0:42:530:42:57

Oh, Sandra, I'm ever so excited for you.

0:42:570:43:00

I'm ever so pleased because we dream of these moments, and what a surprise, what a shock for you.

0:43:000:43:05

-It's absolutely brilliant.

-That sums up our day, doesn't it?

0:43:050:43:08

What a fantastic day. Sandra's going home very happy. I hope you're happy.

0:43:080:43:11

I hope you've enjoyed watching the show but sadly we've run out of time

0:43:110:43:15

and I think Sandra's going off to do some celebrating now.

0:43:150:43:18

Yeah, and some shopping, I think! Get the credit card out.

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