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I'm sure you'll all know the delightful story of the little girl

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who tumbled down a rabbit hole into Wonderland.

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What may surprise you is that Alice and all the other bizarre characters

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were born right here in the imagination of a mathematics lecturer.

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Today we're in the university city of Oxford. Yes, this is Flog It! and oh dear, oh dear, I'm late!

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I'm heading for the marvellous Sheldonian Theatre.

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Well, I have made it just in time.

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Everybody's now safely seated inside.

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It's time for me to join our experts

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and delve through all of these bags and boxes that this wonderful crowd have brought in

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and who knows what wonderful mysteries we might uncover?

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'Later in the show, I get the chance to play the drums...'

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Wow.

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'.. and get some technical instruction

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'on a most unusual instrument.'

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Do you blow hard or medium?

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No, no, no. Blowing a raspberry. That's the deal.

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BLOWS A RASPBERRY, INSTRUMENT MAKES NO SOUND

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The two experts spearheading the team here in Oxford are...

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Tracy Martin, who works as a valuer at an auction house in Essex.

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She specialises in 20th-century antiques and collectibles.

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Boys' toys, they love them. They're all buying them back, the men.

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The all want their childhood revisited.

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-They didn't really grow up half of them, did they?

-They haven't!

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She's joined by our old favourite, Charlie Ross, who takes a more traditional line.

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-Bring it back in 100 years' time. I'll still be here.

-I'll do that!

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He has gained his wide knowledge through the tried-and-tested route of being an auctioneer.

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-You've brought a child for me to value?

-Yes.

-I'm good at that, I have a grandchild now.

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Charlie's first up with Diana, and she's brought in a trio of nice-looking rings.

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Diana, it's nice to see you here, and you're visiting Oxford today?

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-Yes.

-Where are you from?

-We're from Sussex.

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So you've loaded up your rings, brought them along here -

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where did they start life, as far as you're concerned?

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My mother gave them to me.

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I don't think she'd ever worn them.

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They don't look very worn, it looks like

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the ruby cluster ring has been worn,

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it's a little bit worn, but they're in pretty good condition.

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Yes and I know that my father had given them to her.

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-Right.

-So they emanated from his side of the family.

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Did they? Yes. Well, they date from early 20th century.

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-Right.

-So they're virtually 100 years old.

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-Right.

-They're all 18-carat gold, so good-quality gold.

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Doing perhaps the worst first, this ruby and diamond cluster is a synthetic ruby, so it's not

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-a real one, although it's a big whopper...

-That would've been nice.

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I know, it would.

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But nevertheless, a very delicate setting

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and cast and chased shoulders, these are the shoulders here.

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So, a huge amount of work's gone into these.

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The next one we have is diamond and rubies, proper rubies, diamonds,

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-alternately inset, again into an 18-carat shank.

-Right.

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And here, we have here the cultured pearls, you can see cultured pearls,

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they're all uniform size.

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-I see, yes.

-With tiny little chip diamonds into the corner.

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-They're very ornate, but not everybody's cup of tea.

-Right.

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-Do you wear them?

-No, unfortunately I can't get them on my fingers.

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-No.

-I might think about it, but they're not really me.

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-Have you thought of making them bigger?

-I did on one occasion, but I thought, "No."

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They're quite dated in style and I think they're not going to be the easiest things to sell.

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They're fabulous quality, but, to be honest, the average person today

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has a ring made for them quite often, or there's more of a tendency towards

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a straightforward diamond ring, single-stone, three-stone diamond ring,

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rather than clusters of stones.

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What about value? You've got them heavily insured, presumably?

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Oh, yes(!) THEY LAUGH

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Come on, have a guess.

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I was sort of thinking perhaps, I don't know, 200, 250,

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something like that.

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I think a bit more. I'm not sure about the synthetic one,

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-but they'd average out at over £100 each and I'd like to see an estimate of 300 to 500.

-OK, that's good.

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300 to 500 with a discretionary reserve at the bottom end,

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so we reserve them at 300, if the top bid the auctioneer gets is 280,

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then you might as well sell them. I mean, you're expecting 250 to 300,

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but I think we'll pretty safe at £300.

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-If we do well, you can have a few more days in Oxford.

-That would be great. I'll enjoy it.

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Well, we all would, it's a fantastic place to visit.

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Next, a Victorian desk stand caught my eye,

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belonging to Bruce and Joan.

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It might just be the thing that someone is looking for.

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Is it yours?

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-Yes, it is.

-How long have you had that?

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It's been, well with me for over 30 years.

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Where is it at home, Joan? What do you do with it?

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-It's in the broom cupboard.

-In the where?

-In the broom cupboard.

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-On a shelf, hopefully.

-No, on the floor.

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Is it really? Poor thing, poor thing.

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You obviously don't really want to keep it then,

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-if it's in the broom cupboard.

-No.

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Obviously, this little lid comes off.

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To facilitate the ease of that, there would've been a little acorn

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screwed into there that you could lift this lid off with,

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but unfortunately that's missing,

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that's missing, because that's why you keep your nibbed pens. I'd say it's around about 1860, 1880.

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It's not the sort of Gothic revival Puginesque-type Victorian

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you'd expect on these big over-the-top office desks. They're the ones that fetch good money.

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This is very much plainer than that.

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It's typical of the Victorian period,

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it's still over-the-top again.

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But I guess this wouldn't be used by an academic but more likely

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a clerk or an accountant, somebody like that.

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Somebody that did a lot of bookwork,

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because look at the size of the wells, they are big, aren't they?

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All mounted in brass. I like the fact that it's not polished,

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so I'm pleased it's been in the broom cupboard

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and that's quite nice, that's all wheel-cut, can you see that?

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That's called a hobnail pattern,

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-like you get on the bottom of hobnail shoes.

-Oh, right.

-Yes?

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But it's all there, isn't it? The wells are lovely,

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it just needs a good clean. It's made of oak. I'd like it to do £80-£120 if we put it into auction.

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I've a feeling it needs a better starting point, though,

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and I think if I can get the valuation down to around about £60 to £100...

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A reserve of 60? And hopefully we'll get £120, if two people really want this.

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I'd like to think so.

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And they fight over it in the saleroom.

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-You know what they say, the pen's mightier than the sword, don't they?

-They do.

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-Let's give it a crack, shall we?

-OK.

-Yes, please.

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An exquisite-looking decorative Oriental bottle

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has grabbed Tracy's attention. But what's it for?

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What a beautiful little snuff bottle, Mark.

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Obviously Oriental. Beautifully hand-painted.

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Do you collect Oriental, or is it something that's been passed down?

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I had no idea what it was originally. We were landscaping the garden

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and we came across a couple of bits and pieces and broken bottles and this was in there.

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This was in your garden?

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Completely filthy, covered in mud. Couldn't believe it at the time.

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Oh, what a discovery!

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I gave it a clean, but never thought anything more of it.

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We had no idea what it was, so we tried to look it up.

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I thought maybe perfume or anything, I didn't know what it was for.

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You're very much along the right lines, really.

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It's a little snuff bottle here.

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Oriental, Chinese, beautifully hand-painted.

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On the dragon, because we have a dragon here in this wonderful blue,

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he's got five claws. We know that because he's got five claws,

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he's an Imperial dragon.

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He's not any old ordinary, boring dragon.

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He's a special dragon, because he's got five claws.

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On the top here, if we just lift that out,

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what we have is the little snuffer.

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-This is ivory, dyed ivory.

-Dyed ivory.

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And here, we have this wonderful workmanship here.

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It's probably bronze, I would've thought

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it would be bronze because it's such a good-quality piece of porcelain.

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He looks a little bit like a frog, doesn't he? Actually, he's a lion.

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So a beautiful, beautiful piece. Have you got any idea how old it is,

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-or have you done any research?

-I looked at the mark on the bottom.

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-Right.

-The mark on the bottom, when I looked up the different dynasties, it worked out at about 1820 to 1850,

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but, I can't pronounce it, "du gwan", or something like that.

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You're pretty much spot-on, Mark, to be honest. It's very much early Victorian period.

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I'm not very good, I'm from Essex, you see?

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This is my problem, pronunciations are not my good things, so "dong-wong" sounds about right!

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Oriental is so hot at the moment.

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Anything from snuff bottles

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to big, wonderful Satsuma vases,

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really, really hot market.

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I would be comfortable with putting a reserve of about £100 on this.

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So, 100 to 150. Because the Oriental market is pretty hot at the moment,

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I'm pretty sure that should do a little bit more.

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Top-end estimate, maybe even exceed that,

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but obviously it's down to you and if you're really happy with that...

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No, no, here's hoping.

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Hopefully we'll get loads of Oriental collectors

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desperate to own the thing that YOU dug out of the ground.

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Well, there you are. Tracy works as a valuer in an auction room, so she knows what's in demand.

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But will it be in demand at Watcombe Manor saleroom in Watlington,

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just outside of Oxford, where Jones & Jacob fine art auctioneers will be selling our lots.

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There will be two auctioneers on the rostrum today - Francis Ogley and then the owner, Simon Jones.

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I'm going to take the opportunity to speak to Simon to see what he thinks of the Oriental bottle.

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I like this. I like it a lot. It was dug up from the garden.

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-Believe it or not.

-Unusual to find in a British garden.

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Mid-19th-century Chinese, a bit of blue and white.

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We've got 100 to £150 on this.

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-You'll have no trouble at all.

-Really?

-Yes, because it's a little bit earlier.

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What would you put it at?

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I think that's Qianlong, and I think it's late-18th century,

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early-19th century, rather than mid-19th century.

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I like the Imperial dragon. I think that's a wonderful image,

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-that's where my money goes.

-The five claws says it all.

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You're getting quite excited, but you're not giving much away.

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No, auctioneers never give anything away.

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No, you can't! You should be a politician.

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No, I don't want to be one of those!

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-So we're in the right ballpark figure.

-You're OK, you're OK.

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Yes. But hopefully it should fly away. Let's watch this one later on.

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That's what it's all about, the magic of the saleroom.

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Before the auction starts, let's take another look at what we've put up for sale.

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We start with Diana's three handsome rings. They look splendid together,

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so they won't go unseen.

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Then I picked out the Victorian deskstand. It's not the most ornate one that I've come across,

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but there's no point in it just sitting in a broom cupboard.

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And Mark's amazing find, the Chinese snuff bottle.

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It didn't cost him anything, so he should get a good return.

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Now for Diana's three splendid rings,

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with all those rubies,

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diamonds and pearls.

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-A lot of money riding on this one, could it be the jewel in the Flog It! crown?

-Hopefully.

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Three rings. Ooh, Charlie!

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Will we get that 500-plus?

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-300-500. Don't get to excited!

-I know, but can we get 500-plus?

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There's one particularly good ring,

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one with the synthetic stone which looks good but isn't valuable,

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and the pearl ring, which is quite pleasant.

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I think it was the best way of selling them. Put 'em all together.

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We're going to find out, cos this is quite exciting.

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I think this is a lot of money. £500, I would like.

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You always would!

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The 18-carat ring set, nine rubies and diamonds.

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As described there. £300?

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250, sell me.

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-250, 260.

-Come on.

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260, 270.

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280. 290. 300. At £300.

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In the room at 300. Selling at 300. All done at 300?

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Some more, please.

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£100 a ring. Well, they've gone.

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Smile, Diana.

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Not as much as I'd like, but...

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BOTH: No.

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Charlie was right though, they were within estimate.

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-Yeah.

-Don't be too cross with me, Diana.

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-I'll try not to be.

-Sorry about that.

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It just goes to show, auction houses are brilliant places to buy jewellery.

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Next, it's my expertise under scrutiny.

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OK, it's my turn to be the expert.

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Remember that lovely Victorian deskstand inkwell?

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Well, it's out of the broom cupboard and into the auction room.

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Bruce, at the valuation day, you had your wife with you, Joan, didn't you?

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-She can't make it today, but your daughter Susan can. Hello.

-Hi.

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He's flogging your family inheritance, isn't he?

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OK, it's not a lot of money, is it, really, but, it's a nice-looking thing.

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-It is, yes.

-You just need a whopping great big desk in a big house.

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-Old Victorian house.

-Yes, a great big vicarage, then it will look absolutely stunning.

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You never know what happens in an auction.

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We're going to find out, because ultimately it's down to

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this packed saleroom of bidders to put their hands up. Here we go.

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Lot 214, the inkstand, with a nice lift-out tray.

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60, £70 for this?

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50 then, start me.

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50, I'm bid. 55 anywhere?

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55. 60.

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£65 now, at £65. All done at £65?

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Spot on, wasn't it, really? Straight in again. Very quick.

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What you expected, wasn't it, Dad?

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-Yeah.

-Yes, I'm happy with that.

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Yes, we're happy.

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So, out for lunch now?

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I should think so. I think you can stretch to that, can't you?

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You can't twist his arm for that, surely?

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Of course he's going to take her out for lunch.

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Next, one of those marvellous stories,

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Mark's Chinese snuff bottle.

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Quite unbelievable and it's in perfect condition, and you loved it.

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Absolutely love it and I've put a really conservative estimate on it,

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because oriental is such a minefield.

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It could really fly.

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The only thing I've ever dug up in my back garden is

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old broken bottles, but this is quite incredible.

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It's amazing what you hear on Flog It! with owners

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bringing in all these treasures in, literally dug up.

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What was it doing there?

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Who knows? But we're going to find out what it makes right now.

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A snuff bottle, stained ivory stopper.

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Lovely thing, this. £100, start me for it?

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180, I'm bid. 190?

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£180 then. With Alan at £180.

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All done at 180, all finished?

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Well done. You were spot-on, actually.

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Sorry it didn't fly, fly.

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But nevertheless, that's a good result.

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-Yes. Well done, Mark.

-Thank you very much.

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Get digging. Find some more treasure.

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And if you find another treasure, remember to bring it into us.

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Later, we see an extraordinary bit of auction room drama.

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£70!

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That's incredible, isn't it?

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-4,000.

-I wonder when it's going to stop?

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-5,000.

-Don't you just love auction rooms?

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While I'm in Oxford, I've taken the opportunity to visit just part

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of this magnificent university, and as I come from a musical background and play the drums

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and a bit of piano and guitar, I've chosen the Faculty of Music.

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I'm drawn here, not just because I'm passionate about music,

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but because I believe they've got one of the greatest collections ever assembled of musical instruments

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on Planet Earth, and some of them date back centuries.

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It's called the Bate Collection, after Phillip Bate,

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who was the musical director at the BBC for many years.

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He left his collection of over 300 early woodwind instruments

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to the Faculty of Music in 1963

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so the students could appreciate the sound of the original instruments.

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That turned out to be just the beginning, because it encouraged

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other collectors who shared his enthusiasm to follow suit.

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This amazing collection is still growing today.

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I'm here to meet its current curator, the enthusiastic Mr Andrew Lamb.

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I don't know where to look. How many instruments are there?

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-Well, getting on for 2,000 now.

-Gosh.

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I've got to say, the collection here doesn't have a stuffy feel like some museums do have.

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-Is that down to you and your passion and enthusiasm?

-Well...

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partly me, I'm just carrying on a long tradition.

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The original curator, Anthony Baines, set the ball rolling.

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Those of us who've stepped into his shoes,

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we've got a class act to follow.

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-I bet there's never a dull moment.

-Absolutely not.

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Have you played most of these instruments?

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I have to say, no.

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But what I have to do is learn to play them well enough to be able to demonstrate them.

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The ones that are playable, I can get a couple of notes out.

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-OK. What are you holding there?

-This is a lovely instrument, it's

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probably my favourite instrument in the collection.

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Most people will be familiar with it - it's a recorder.

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But this is a recorder that was made at a time when these instruments were

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orchestral instruments in their own right.

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The thing about this is that it's in perfect proportion. It's in the golden section.

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We look at it and we kind of think, well, that's a very satisfying shape.

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And we're fooled into thinking it's a simple instrument but it's not, it's very successful.

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So much so that they have not improved on the design in 300 years.

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-Is that a maple or is it an English boxwood?

-It's in boxwood.

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-Go on, go on, play.

-Here we go.

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I'll see what I can do here.

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-Very warm tone.

-It is, it is.

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If you're a professional recorder player nowadays,

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the chances are you'll have a copy of THIS instrument.

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You're very lucky, aren't you? Wow. Did that ever catch on, a glass flute?

0:19:310:19:37

Well, it's funny you should ask that.

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They're still making them.

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It's very much a French idea.

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There's a perception somehow that the material

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that the instrument is made of has a profound effect on the tonal quality.

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I don't think it has as profound an effect as people would like to think.

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I don't let people play these ones because the horror potential is just too high, frankly.

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-We won't get that one out, then.

-No, no.

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I'm looking forward to having a play myself on something.

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Something quite rare. What can I play?

0:20:060:20:08

Well, you can't have a go on this, but I've got something lined up for you. Come with me.

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Hard to know what to choose, isn't it?

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None of these. I've got something very special lined up.

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No wonder you were laughing.

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-That's a serpent, isn't it?

-It certainly is.

-Incredible.

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I've seen them before, obviously, in pictures and museums, but I've never held or played one.

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-This is your chance.

-It's covered in leather.

-That's right.

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What they've done with these ones is they've glued the wood together

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in sections and bound them in copper wire and then they put the leather over the top.

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That's what you've got here.

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What date are we talking about?

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This one, we actually know all about it.

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It was used at the Battle of Waterloo, dated 1815.

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It was made by an English maker called Thomas Key & Sons.

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It was used by a musician from the Royal Welsh Fusiliers

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called Richard Bentinck.

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-Gosh, what provenance.

-I know, we know all about it.

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Play it, please, play it. Does it sound like a tuba?

0:21:090:21:12

-Not really.

-French horn?

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-To be fair, it's got, got a tone all of its own.

-Go on, then.

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Right, here we go.

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DEEP, BREATHY TONE

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Oh, brilliant.

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That suits you.

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-That's me, is it?

-That's very you, yes.

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-Now it's your turn.

-Do I need gloves?

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No, you can handle this one, it's quite reasonable.

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Do you blow hard, or sort of medium?

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No, no, no, it's kind of blowing a raspberry, that's the deal.

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I'm sure if you were good on this, you would get the subtleties out of it.

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Funny you should say that, I've heard professional serpent players and I can't say I've noticed.

0:22:030:22:09

It could sound like somebody in pain. Screaming away!

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What a beautiful instrument.

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They are beautiful, they're very cuddleable.

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Can I have a play on one of the drums?

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Yes, all right, then. Why ever not?

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We've got another instrument from Waterloo.

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-OK, let's form a duet, then.

-I'll just put this away.

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This particular instrument is our most recent acquisition.

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We did a lot of fundraising to acquire it and we think it's

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the instrument that was played by Joseph Haydn

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when he came to Oxford to receive his honorary doctoral award.

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Wow. So when does this date back to?

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This is about 1792, this instrument.

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It's a harpsichord and it really is, in many ways, the last flick

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of the dinosaur's tail before everybody moved on to playing pianos.

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-Double bank of keys?

-Absolutely, what they called a double manual.

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-It's got a number of other features.

-These open up, don't they?

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Yes, I'll just show you, here we go, just a minute.

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-Ah.

-There we go, look at that, that's what they call

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-a Venetian swell.

-How does that help the vibrating note more?

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Well, what you did, very, very simple, you get it to play louder.

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-That's all it is?

-Absolutely all it is.

0:23:270:23:29

So, this is from Waterloo?

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Yes, we think so. We don't know which regiment, but it's certainly the right period.

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It's certainly the right style.

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Wonderful drum.

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The condition is superb, isn't it?

0:23:500:23:52

-It is indeed.

-Let's see what it sounds like... Dum, dum dum...

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Wow. Can you hear the overtone there? The way it resonates.

0:24:040:24:07

Can you imagine a marching row of let's say 15 or 12?

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The power and the volume!

0:24:110:24:13

Absolutely, that is a real war sound, isn't it?

0:24:130:24:16

Thank you so much, thank you so much, that's made my day.

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Playing a drum from the Battle of Waterloo! What a sound!

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What an unbelievable experience, I'm so chuffed to have come here today.

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If you're passionate about music, you must visit.

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It is the complete encyclopaedia of musical instruments that have evolved over the centuries.

0:24:320:24:37

You don't just get to study tuning techniques, you get to

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PLAY the things as well, and that's so important.

0:24:400:24:42

Today I've played a serpent and a drum from the Battle of Waterloo.

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What a date in history, and it's all here and it's free.

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Now it's time to find out what other treasures

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the crowd in the Sheldonian have in store for our experts.

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Charlie's found something which seems to be an unusual size.

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-Denise, a grandfather clock.

-Yep.

-But a bit smaller than the usual grandfather clocks.

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-It's a miniature one.

-It certainly is.

0:25:130:25:15

-How did you get hold of it?

-My Great-Uncle Joe gave it to me when he was 94.

0:25:150:25:21

-What a kind man.

-Yep.

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He bought it in about 1930 from Stanton St John vicarage.

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Did you always like it? Is that why you give it to you?

0:25:270:25:31

Yeah, as a child I always cleaned it and dusted it.

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It would be fascinating for a child because it would be the right size

0:25:350:25:39

-for a grandfather clock if you were very small.

-Yeah, that's true.

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It's an interesting combination. There's no doubt that the case is English

0:25:420:25:47

and the movement is French.

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And the date of this is very much late-Victorian, almost into the Edwardian times.

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So we're looking at 1880, 1890.

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Its case is made of rosewood -

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a lovely, high-quality, dense wood -

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and it's inlaid with satinwood, which you can see.

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These fans, the very light wood here.

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And the green wood, which you can see, is olive wood.

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Lovely. You have a wonderful broken pediment on the top, and it's very much modelled on

0:26:140:26:20

a longcase clock, other than it would be unusual to see such slender pillars down a clock of that period

0:26:200:26:28

if it were a full grandfather clock.

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An enamel dial we have here,

0:26:310:26:32

with very intricate brass filigree work in the middle of it.

0:26:320:26:36

And then we're going to turn it round and have a look at the movement.

0:26:360:26:41

And when I said a platform movement, this is the platform,

0:26:430:26:46

screwed to the back of the clock here.

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The great thing about a platform movement,

0:26:490:26:51

if it were a full-size longcase clock, you would have a pendulum.

0:26:510:26:54

It would be stopping and you'd have to adjust it all the time.

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A carriage clock movement, that clock will work if you lay it flat,

0:26:580:27:02

turn it upside down, turn it on its side...

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Hence carriage clocks - you could rattle along in your carriage and it would always carry on going.

0:27:060:27:12

And I think the movement was made in France, imported into this country and then put into an English case.

0:27:120:27:18

And beautifully done. And it's really in super condition, although I noticed when I wound it up

0:27:180:27:22

that the hands went, "Whizzzz!" And we had to wait for it to stop.

0:27:220:27:28

-Has it always been like that?

-No, it hasn't.

0:27:280:27:31

It wasn't me that did it, was it?

0:27:310:27:34

No, it wasn't. I did take it somewhere but they didn't make a good job of it.

0:27:340:27:39

Ever had it valued?

0:27:390:27:41

Well, I did for insurance purposes.

0:27:410:27:43

Did you? Well, that's quite interesting. And for insurance purposes?

0:27:430:27:46

They said £1,200.

0:27:460:27:48

-HE GASPS

-Crumbs! How long ago was that?

0:27:480:27:51

That was in 1999.

0:27:510:27:53

Did they charge you for that valuation?

0:27:530:27:56

-Yeah, but that came along with the repair as well.

-Did it?

0:27:560:27:59

It shouldn't be for me to say this, but quite often you get people that repair things and they say,

0:27:590:28:05

"I'll give you an insurance valuation," and it's quite inflated.

0:28:050:28:08

-It may not come as a surprise, or it may do, that's a hugely inflated insurance.

-Yes.

0:28:080:28:14

-I think it's fabulous but I think it's worth, to sell, £200 to £300.

-Right.

-Still want to sell it?

-Yes.

0:28:140:28:20

You're very, very understanding and good.

0:28:200:28:23

I hope that somebody that really likes it might tickle it above £300,

0:28:230:28:27

-but I think we've got to realise it's not going to make £500 or £600.

-Yeah.

0:28:270:28:32

-Thank you for bringing it along.

-Thank you.

0:28:320:28:34

What a fascinating item. And it's true that insurance valuations do tend to be high.

0:28:350:28:41

While talking to people in the room, my eye was drawn to the most interesting dagger.

0:28:410:28:48

That's a beautiful dagger. May I have a look?

0:28:480:28:50

Lovely rosewood handle. Isn't that lovely?

0:28:500:28:53

-It is.

-It's absolutely beautifully made.

0:28:530:28:55

I've never seen one like it.

0:28:550:28:57

This is all mounted in silver, isn't it?

0:28:570:28:59

-That's what I thought. This is silver as well.

-It looks like fish skin and alligator.

-Yes.

0:28:590:29:04

-How did you come by this?

-It belongs to my son.

0:29:040:29:08

He bought a cottage in Woodstock just before Christmas

0:29:080:29:12

and he's renovating it.

0:29:120:29:13

And he was taking all the lath and plaster off the walls

0:29:130:29:17

and he found this embedded.

0:29:170:29:18

-You're joking! In the wall, in the plaster and lath?

-Yes, in the wall.

0:29:180:29:22

-This is very sharp, actually.

-The cottage backs onto Blenheim Palace Gardens.

0:29:220:29:27

-Right, OK, the plot thickens.

-The cottages originally belonged to the estate.

0:29:270:29:32

-I would say it's 19th century, that's for sure.

-Right.

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Possibly around about 1830, 1850.

0:29:350:29:37

-Really?

-And my guess is it's Persian, just looking at the hilt

0:29:370:29:41

and looking at the way that's put together.

0:29:410:29:44

It'd be interesting to know how it got there, though.

0:29:440:29:47

That's the most interesting part of the story, that really is.

0:29:470:29:51

I told my son to look for the skeleton!

0:29:510:29:54

-I think if you put this into auction, it would realise around £100 to £150.

-Really?

0:29:540:29:59

Yeah, but maybe it should be sold in Iran. That's where the market is.

0:29:590:30:03

-I know that Persian artefacts fetch good money.

-Do they?

-They really do. Put it on the wall.

0:30:030:30:08

Behind glass, I think that would look really nice.

0:30:080:30:12

It would look excellent, in fact.

0:30:120:30:15

I think that's a great idea, Maureen.

0:30:150:30:17

And what a fabulous story, too.

0:30:180:30:21

Next, Tracy has found something familiar.

0:30:210:30:25

Well, I think it's Clarice Cliff.

0:30:250:30:27

I think you're probably right.

0:30:270:30:29

But lovely, lovely pieces.

0:30:290:30:31

Are they something that you've inherited or you've bought or you've collected?

0:30:310:30:36

I bought these in a jumble sale.

0:30:360:30:38

-Right.

-Over 30 years ago.

0:30:380:30:40

OK. Can I ask you, did you pay much money for any of these items?

0:30:400:30:45

This was 10p and these were five.

0:30:450:30:50

-Pence?

-Pence.

-So you didn't pay a lot of money at all, really.

0:30:500:30:54

-No.

-Have you had them on display at home?

0:30:540:30:57

Have you got pleasure out of them?

0:30:570:30:59

My children used to play with them and they used to use these as Daleks.

0:30:590:31:04

-Oh, really?

-As the mother ship in one of the Dalek movies.

-I love it!

0:31:040:31:08

That's fantastic!

0:31:080:31:11

Well, Wendy, because they've been used as Daleks,

0:31:110:31:14

they've obviously been knocked about a bit, and we have got some damage here.

0:31:140:31:18

Both these ends have been knocked off.

0:31:180:31:21

-So I'm wondering if they were exterminating each other.

-They could have been.

0:31:210:31:27

On this little tiny conical shape, we've got a chip here as well.

0:31:270:31:32

But I will say this particular pattern is the crocus pattern,

0:31:320:31:35

and it's one of the most common.

0:31:350:31:38

But this is a really lovely little size, which is great.

0:31:380:31:42

-But what I love best is this.

-Do you?!

-I do, I love it.

0:31:420:31:46

It's just so unusual.

0:31:460:31:47

It's a Stamford shape,

0:31:470:31:50

quite simplistic, really. We've got the typical Art Deco clean line.

0:31:500:31:55

And if we just sort of turn it upside down,

0:31:550:31:59

there we have the wonderful "Bizarre by Clarice Cliff" mark.

0:31:590:32:03

Pop that back. And that was 10p, you said?

0:32:030:32:06

-So that was quite expensive, that one, wasn't it?

-It was expensive. I had to think about that(!)

0:32:060:32:12

-I think it makes a great mother ship.

-Yes.

-It's a whole new meaning on the word "ceramic".

0:32:120:32:17

Because of the damage, really, the money's going to be in this one, to be honest.

0:32:170:32:22

I'm thinking a pre-sale estimate of £100 to £150.

0:32:220:32:29

-Now, bearing in mind you only spent 25p on the lot...

-Yes.

-..I don't think that's a bad return.

0:32:290:32:34

No, I think that's a fair price.

0:32:340:32:37

And the children have had the great pleasure of playing Daleks.

0:32:370:32:40

-They have.

-It's going to fly away at auction.

-Yes!

0:32:400:32:45

£100 to £150 seems good value for that little collection.

0:32:450:32:49

I always like meeting people at our valuation days and being introduced to the children.

0:32:490:32:56

Your mum's just handed the phone, so she's having a good time.

0:32:560:33:00

And I hope you're behaving well at home.

0:33:000:33:02

HE LAUGHS

0:33:020:33:04

OK, bye-bye.

0:33:040:33:05

Thank you!

0:33:050:33:07

Charlie and Nigel are looking at a mysterious box.

0:33:080:33:11

-Have you used the contents at all?

-No, my father bought it second-hand

0:33:110:33:15

in Portsmouth when I was a youngster, about eight years old.

0:33:150:33:19

And he worked for the city architect's department.

0:33:190:33:21

He may have used it early on in his career, but I suspect not later.

0:33:210:33:25

-So we're going to find architectural instruments?

-Yes, sorry, I should have told you.

0:33:250:33:30

No, that's fine. So we open up there.

0:33:300:33:32

Gosh! It's absolutely complete, isn't it?

0:33:320:33:35

-It's extraordinary, isn't it?

-Amazing!

0:33:350:33:38

What a meticulous person he must have been.

0:33:380:33:40

If I'd owned something like this, half of them would be missing.

0:33:400:33:44

I wish I had been as meticulous as my father.

0:33:440:33:46

What really interested me here, have you noticed this writing here?

0:33:460:33:50

Well, I hadn't actually paid much attention to it.

0:33:500:33:52

-French.

-Yeah, now I look at it.

0:33:520:33:54

So we've certainly got a French box here.

0:33:590:34:01

-Surely.

-Rosewood. The French in the 19th century used a lot of rosewood,

0:34:010:34:05

loved rosewood, as indeed the English did, but I think the French

0:34:050:34:09

even more so, which obviously relates to the instruments in so much as the box was made in France.

0:34:090:34:16

But "lines" and "circles" -

0:34:160:34:20

I can say that these instruments were made in England.

0:34:200:34:22

I think that's a fair conclusion.

0:34:220:34:24

That would ring true, wouldn't it, with high-quality steel?

0:34:240:34:27

-I would agree.

-As an engineer you would agree with that.

-I certainly would.

0:34:270:34:32

So I think then shipped out to France where they put it in

0:34:320:34:36

the box and presumably retailed in France, I would have thought.

0:34:360:34:39

But alas, alack, despite the cost of making something

0:34:390:34:43

like that, I would suggest that the value of the box probably

0:34:430:34:47

exceeds the value of the contents.

0:34:470:34:49

I think that's quite possible.

0:34:490:34:51

I would think that I would hope for, say, something about £50,

0:34:510:34:55

perhaps a bit better

0:34:550:34:56

-if possible, on a good day, maybe.

-I think I'm looking at

0:34:560:34:59

an estimate of 40 to 60.

0:34:590:35:01

I think you're pretty spot-on.

0:35:010:35:02

I think the box is worth £30. These ought to be worth

0:35:020:35:06

a couple of hundred pounds.

0:35:060:35:08

It's no good me saying that that's what they're going to make.

0:35:080:35:11

I think 40 to £60 is a sensible estimate, with a reserve at the

0:35:110:35:17

bottom end and a little bit of discretion

0:35:170:35:19

so that we don't give them away.

0:35:190:35:20

Still got the key.

0:35:200:35:22

-Yes.

-And it locks perfectly well?

0:35:220:35:24

It does. It's a little counterintuitive, though.

0:35:240:35:27

To lock it, let's see, I think you turn anticlockwise.

0:35:270:35:30

Anticlockwise. French, you see.

0:35:300:35:33

Well, it's the other side of the road, isn't it?

0:35:330:35:36

Well, that may not be the French view of it!

0:35:360:35:39

There's just time to have another glimpse of what our experts have picked out to take off to auction.

0:35:390:35:45

Charlie's right, I'm sure. Denise's miniature grandfather clock would appeal to children and adults alike.

0:35:450:35:52

Wendy's Clarice Cliff has a little Dalek damage, but I suspect it will still do very well.

0:35:520:35:59

Nigel's late 19th-century rosewood box with architectural

0:35:590:36:02

instruments would cost a fortune to make today,

0:36:020:36:06

so the buyer will get a real bargain.

0:36:060:36:10

It's up first, so let's see who wants it.

0:36:110:36:15

They're going to go to a good home because we've got £40-£60 on these,

0:36:150:36:19

and it's absolutely nothing for a complete set, is it? That's true.

0:36:190:36:23

This is the right time to invest in antiques on things like this

0:36:230:36:26

because it's something not many people want and the price is so low.

0:36:260:36:30

People nowadays wouldn't use them, of course, would they?

0:36:300:36:33

They've been overtaken, as you say, by computers.

0:36:330:36:36

Let's hope there are some draftsmen or architects here.

0:36:360:36:40

Lot 136 is a set of drawing instruments

0:36:410:36:44

in a rosewood and brass case.

0:36:440:36:46

There we go, lovely set there.

0:36:460:36:48

40 to £50 for it.

0:36:480:36:49

40 I'm bid. 42.

0:36:490:36:51

42, 44, 46, 48,

0:36:510:36:55

50, 50, 55, 60?

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£55. 60 anywhere?

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For £55 beside me.

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60, 65, 70?

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-They do like it.

-£65, then.

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Still beside me at £65.

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All done at 65.

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£65. I'm pleased.

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-Thank you very much indeed.

-A pleasure.

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That's absolute quality, absolute quality.

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Those are the kind of things you should really be investing in

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because £65 is absolutely nothing for that, is it, Nigel?

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I'm glad it went over the estimate.

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Next I want to show you something very rare and interesting that's coming up later on in the auction.

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Simon the auctioneer has given me a tip-off about a lot that is coming up in the sale. And this is it.

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It's a tiny little early 19th-century Japanese cloisonne vase.

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It came in through a probate sale. Somebody had died in the estate.

0:37:440:37:49

The rest of the family don't particularly want to own it.

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They know it's worth possibly a few hundred pounds.

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That's what they're thinking. Simon has just informed me

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it could be worth around £4,000, so we're going to watch this one later on in the show.

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But look at the exquisite detail, because that is all enamel work.

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Can you see all the little flowers and the petals?

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That's little tiny wires that have been put onto

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the vessel to stop the coloured glass from running.

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It's exquisite. The detail is superb.

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That's what you're buying, really. It's a little ornament.

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It's lot number 144.

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If you've got something like this and you're thinking of selling it, don't just sell it to

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the first person, take advice from the professionals because it could be worth several thousand pounds.

0:38:300:38:35

Back to our lots, and Denise's little grandfather clock is up next.

0:38:380:38:43

£200 to £300 is riding on this.

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You've seen this as a little girl and you really liked it.

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It's been handed down through the family and now you're selling.

0:38:490:38:53

Yep. Well, I've got two boys and I can't...

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You can't split that up, can you, I guess?

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-But it's got to go. A nice thing.

-Fabulous quality.

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A really, really nice thing.

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My uncle only had the best.

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-Had an eye for detail.

-Yeah, definitely.

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Let's hope this packed saleroom knows what to look for. Good luck.

0:39:080:39:12

A miniature longcase clock in the inlaid case there.

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A couple of hundred pounds for it. 190 I'm bid.

0:39:170:39:20

200 anywhere before I go to the phones?

0:39:200:39:22

Coming to you now, Pat, at 200.

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We're in at 200.

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200, 210, 220,

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230, 240,

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250, 260.

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They like it, they like it.

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Coming to you now, 270, 270,

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280, 290.

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290 at the back, 300, 310,

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320, 330,

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340?

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330, then. Right at the back of the room at £330. All done at 330.

0:39:490:39:55

Yes, top end of the estimate and a bit more - £330.

0:39:550:39:57

-That's not bad.

-You're happy, aren't you?

0:39:570:40:00

I think Uncle would be pleased with that.

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His actual words were, "Flog it."

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So I think he'd be very pleased.

0:40:050:40:08

-I think the boys will as well, won't they?

-Yeah.

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Good result. Next, what I consider to be a classic Flog It! story.

0:40:120:40:17

Right now, we're hoping to turn 15p into maybe £150, who knows, £200

0:40:180:40:24

because Clarice Cliff never lets us down.

0:40:240:40:27

-Hello, Wendy.

-Hello.

0:40:270:40:28

Now, a lovely story, this, isn't it?

0:40:280:40:31

This is brilliant.

0:40:310:40:33

30-odd years ago you bought this

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-four-piece set of Clarice Cliff?

-Yes.

0:40:350:40:37

You've had great fun playing Daleks.

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-Yes, my children did.

-Why are you selling today anyway?

0:40:390:40:42

Well, my son and daughter are older, they don't play Daleks any more. They're grown up.

0:40:420:40:47

You can never grow out of Dr Who, though, can you, really?

0:40:490:40:52

No, they're still avid watchers, yes.

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Well, good luck, anyway.

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The Clarice Cliff Stamford tureen and cover

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and three condiment covers. £100 to start me for it.

0:40:590:41:03

350's better. 350 I'm bid, 360?

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£350!

0:41:060:41:08

That got them whistling in church. 350.

0:41:080:41:10

-Am I hearing right?

-360 now, OK.

0:41:100:41:13

-360, 370.

-370, Wendy.

0:41:130:41:17

370, 380.

0:41:170:41:20

-Oh, they love it, don't they?

-Yes!

0:41:200:41:23

370 then, with Alan. At £370.

0:41:230:41:25

All done at 370. With Alan.

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-£370!

-Yes!

0:41:280:41:31

That's incredible, isn't it? With all that damage as well.

0:41:310:41:34

It just goes to show it doesn't put people off buying Clarice Cliff, does it?

0:41:340:41:38

Or were they Dr Who fanatics?

0:41:380:41:40

Hey, what are you going to spend the money on?

0:41:420:41:44

-Well...

-Don't forget there's 15% commission.

0:41:440:41:47

Yes. Share it between my grandchildren and a rescued greyhound called Mr Blue...

0:41:470:41:51

-Oh, lovely.

-..that my son's got.

0:41:510:41:53

-How smashing.

-I'm so pleased.

0:41:530:41:57

-Mr Blue!

-Mr Blue. He's fabulous.

0:41:570:42:00

It's always nice to hear the money's going to a good cause.

0:42:000:42:04

Now I'm sure you're curious to find out what happened to the little

0:42:040:42:08

cloisonne vase that I showed you earlier on in the programme.

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It just happened to be made by Namikawa Yasuyuki around 1880,

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the top maker at the dawn of the golden age of cloisonne.

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This is exceptional, so keep watching.

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-5,000.

-£5,000 is now being offered.

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-5,100.

-5,100.

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6,000. 7,000.

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8,000.

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£8,000?!

0:42:320:42:34

Don't you just love auction rooms?

0:42:340:42:36

-I'm tingling now.

-8,900. 9,000.

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10,000.

0:42:400:42:42

Ooh! £10,000.

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11,000.

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And it's all gone deadly quiet.

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12,000.

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£12,000.

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13,000. 14,000.

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14,200, 14,400.

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-£14,000.

-14,200.

0:42:540:42:55

-14,400.

-Absolutely incredible.

0:42:550:42:57

14,600.

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14,800. 15,000?

0:42:580:43:01

14,800, then. At 14,800, all done.

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Here we go, the hammer's going down.

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£14,800.

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APPLAUSE

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Lucky owners. That is the excitement of the auction room.

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If you've got something like that, bring it along to one of our valuation days.

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We would love to sell that for you.

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You can check the details on our BBC website.

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Just log on to bbc.co.uk/lifestyle

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Click F for Flog It!, follow the links, and hopefully there'll be

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a valuation day venue very near you soon. We'd love to see you.

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Bring along your unwanted antiques.

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