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Just look at this, the bracing sea air | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
and boats bobbing up and down on the shimmering water. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Today, we're in the seaside resort of Herne Bay on the Kent coastline. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Welcome to Flog It! | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
This shingle beach conceals a lot of its own treasures. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
Since its Victorian heyday as a seaside resort, | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
Herne Bay has been a popular place to collect sharks' teeth and fossils. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
But our experts won't be hunting for fossils today. Oh, no. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
They'll be hunting through all these bags and boxes brought along by this massive, great big queue | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
to our wonderful venue today, the Kings Hall in Herne Bay. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
Stay tuned and you'll see lots of treasures. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
And joining us in our hunt for all those special pieces are our experts... | 0:01:07 | 0:01:13 | |
Kate Bateman, a second-generation auctioneer, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
and Mark Stacey who has more than 20 years' experience in antiques | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
and a particular interest in the decorative arts. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
Kate originally trained as ballerina but now it's antiques that put her in a spin. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
-Not a real painting. -No? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Sadly. If only it was. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Mark learnt the tricks of the trade through years | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
as a dealer and consultant, so we know we're in safe hands. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
So you haven't actually assembled it all? | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
Well, once upon a time we did. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
Now, don't do that at home! | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
And coming up in today's programme, Mark puts in a bid for one of our items... | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
-I'll double your money for you. How about that? -No! | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
And even finds something to dance about. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
Shake those hips! | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
And I get to see how this area so inspired one of our greatest writers, Charles Dickens. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:09 | |
The hall's filling up and I'm pleased to see people of all ages. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
Mum's come here to ask a very important question, hasn't she? And what's that question? | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
What's it worth? | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
Well, let's get started. And also wanting to know "what's it worth?" is Joan and her son-in-law Chris, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:30 | |
who have brought in some intriguing books to show Mark. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
Before television, before things like that, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
when you had long, lonely nights and you wanted to play with things, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
you'd get one of these little books, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
and you'd teach yourself how to play golf the Bobby Jones way | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
by flicking and seeing how he does his strokes and things. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
They're wonderful. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
Where did you get them from? | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
They belonged to my aunt. I found them when I cleared her house after she died. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
I've looked at them occasionally, | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
but they've stayed in the drawer in my bedroom. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
That's a shame, isn't it? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
They wouldn't be in that condition if I'd let the children have them. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
That's true. The staple has rusted there, but that's an unfortunate sign of age. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
What connection to these are you, Chris? | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
-I've just come along today to assist my mother-in-law. -Oh, right, OK. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
Just moral support. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
-Absolutely. And chauffeur! -Chauffeur. -Chauffeur! We all need a chauffeur! | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
I particularly like this one, the dance lesson from the good old days. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
If you flick it this way, you get a sort of... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
almost a sort of Charleston-type dance. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
I'm not quite sure how old they are. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
I would've thought they're going back to the sort of 20s, really. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
That sort of period, you know, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
when kids wanted something to do in the evenings. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
We had the wireless but we didn't have much else entertain us, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
not like today when they've all got their computers. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
I don't think they'd be very popular now. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Quite mundane, quite slow-paced for today, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
-but hopefully a collector out there will want them. -I hope so. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
I've had a word with a colleague | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
because this is a real collectors' field. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
It's not the usual antiques we see which makes them quite a joy. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
We see lots of china and silver and furniture, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
but it's quite nice to see these ephemera-type items. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
And, of course, not a lot of them would have survived. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
They would've been thrown away, broken and then just discarded. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
I would've thought we're probably looking at £50 to £80, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
something like that. Would you be happy to sell them for that? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Oh, yes, there's not much point in keeping them any longer | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
and knowing my son everything will probably go in a skip. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Oh, dear. Well, we want to save them from skip, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
and they might dance off and make a bit more. You never know. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
-You never can tell. Oh, dear, bless you! -Excuse me. I didn't mean to do that. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
It must be all the excitement, Mark, or perhaps a little dust. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
Next, I'm going to have a chat with Peter, if I can get to him. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
Well, there are so many people in the main hall, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
the queue goes through the reception area, through the cafeteria where everyone's getting refreshments, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:04 | |
back out on the seafront and back up the hill, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
and I've just come here to meet up with Peter | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
because he's brought in this most wonderful campaign writing slope to show me, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
and hopefully put through to auction, make lots of money. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
Thank you for bringing in some wood for me to get my hands on. How did you come across this? | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
I bought this at a prestigious boot fair about three years ago. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
Local landowners near Rolvenden in Kent have a clear-out every two years or so... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:31 | |
What did you pay for it? | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
-250. 250. -£250. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
Sensible money. You paid sensible money. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
You didn't steal it and you didn't pay over the top. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
-It is a lovely thing. -It certainly is. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
I would say this is the last third of the Victorian period, 1860, 1870, 1880, around there. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:48 | |
Let's just start with the outside. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
Looking at this flamed-cut Cuban mahogany, an exotic hardwood | 0:05:50 | 0:05:56 | |
first introduced into this country in the early 1700s. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
An officer and a gentleman would have owned this | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
and because we're talking about the portable British Empire, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
taking luxuries away with you on campaign... | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
that's what it was all about. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
-He wouldn't have carried this, though, would he? -Oh, no. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
He would've had his back man. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:14 | |
And in a pack on a donkey probably. Who knows? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
Things like this could've been used in the Crimean. Think of the history. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
Opening it up, you can see there's a wonderful Moroccan leather, tooled slope for writing on. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:27 | |
A little feature I do like, because I noticed, when I opened it... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:33 | |
look at this. This is a good touch. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
You've got a good eye. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
This little arm comes up, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
it goes into one of the retaining holes here... | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
-Yeah. -That slots in there... | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
And there you are, there's your wonderful reading slope. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
You can read by candle light outside the tent, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
-fighting off all the midges. -Yeah, that's right. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
Isn't that lovely? | 0:06:58 | 0:06:59 | |
That's decadence, isn't it? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:00 | |
Oh, yeah. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
Rather than have the book on your lap, getting neckache, stick it up there. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Oh, I love it. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Absolutely love it. So it's all there. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
It's all there, isn't it? Some of these have secret compartments. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
-This one does as well. -Does it? I'm getting excited. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
This is the fun part, because... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
I need to flip this out there, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
and another little well for putting correspondence under, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
but if I use this retaining pin... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
This is quite clever. Watch this. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
A little secret compartment. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Did you like that? Isn't that cute? | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
Look, it's spring-loaded. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
And there it reveals three fitted little drawers. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:51 | |
That's where the money went and anything else that was valuable, maybe the watch. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
Isn't that cute? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
And that just springs back in there like so. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
As I said earlier, I think you paid sensible money for this. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
I'm quite excited about it because it looks good from the outside, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
it looks fabulous from the inside. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
I think we put this into auction with a reasonable valuation | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
of £200 to £300, fixed reserve of £200 | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
so you don't lose too much money. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
On a good day this is going to do £300 | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
so by the time you've paid your commission, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
you'd end up with your £250 back. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
Why do you want to sell this? | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
Cos I love wood, and I actually want to go on a restoration, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
wood restoration course. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
-Oh, fabulous. -Yeah. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
I've got a couple of bits and pieces that I want to do up professionally. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
I can appreciate you're really good with your hands. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
Hopefully you can do a few things up, | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
turn them around, make some money. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
Yeah, well, give it a try. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
What a lovely thing, just up my street. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
Also up my street are the albums of postcards which Jane has brought in to show Kate. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
Hello, Jane. You've brought quite an interesting collection here. What have we got? | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
These are a collection of postcards which came from my grandmother, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
and most of them date from either before the First World War | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
-or during the First World War. -Right. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
A large number were sent by my father and his brothers when they were fighting during the war. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:20 | |
-Right. And did he survive? Presumably he did. -My father did. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
One of the brothers died in what is now Iraq, but two of them survived. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Persia as they would've called it, I suppose. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
OK, well, let's have a quick look. This is an album she's collected. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
These are First World War ones. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
We've got Royal Army Medical Corps, and these are the sewn silk ones. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
We see these quite often at auction but they're still quite collectible. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
You're talking £3 or £4, £5 each, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
a bit more for the more collectible ones. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
And you've got a whole book, by the look if it, of others. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
What have we got here? Various Victorian ones. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Oh, right, OK, this is cool. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
This is the Christmas box and what have we got? | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Oh, it pulls out. Oh, look at that. That's great fun, like a concertina. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
Close it up again. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
There. That's quite a novelty one. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Lots of collectors like the slightly unusual ones. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
-Yes. -That's great fun. Let's have a look. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Oh, wow, a burning Zeppelin | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
brought down at Potter's Bar in 1916, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
so a bit of local interest there. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
OK, that's quite interesting there, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
-you've got these loose cards as well. -Yes. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
-They're not just military, some local interest, topographical... | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
-That's right. -And a few photographic cards of soldiers. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Do you know who these people are in this photo? | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
Yes, it's my father's regiment in the First World War, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
and he's the one in the glasses just there. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
OK, the only one wearing glasses. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Yes, he was blind in his left eye. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
-What, when he went into the Army? -Yes, he cheated the medical. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
He made it up, reading the numbers? | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
Yes, covered the same eye both times, and he was only 17 when he did it. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
-Oh, my goodness. But he got in and survived. -Yes, survived. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Brilliant. What a good story. A few here are interesting, social history. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
You've got Boy Scouts here, and where was that? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
I think that... | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
-Is that the New Romney? Yes, Lydd and New Romney. -OK, Romney. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
A local street scene here, again Romney, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
with a car and vintage advertising, lots of people, a really animated scene. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
Think about what that would look like today. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
Nothing like that. That's really good fun. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
You're not tempted to keep them cos they're family history? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
No, I've got several others that have got more sentimental value. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:28 | |
OK, so we need to find somebody that's interested in Boy Scouts, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
social history and military all at once. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
Pricewise, probably £80 to £120. Is that the sort of figure you'd be happy with? | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
-That's fine, yes. -You should put some kind of reserve on. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
I would probably suggest like a £50 or £60 reserve. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
-Shall we try it in a sale? -Yes, do. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Are you going to be here to see them sell? | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Unfortunately not. We'll be on a cruise. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
-Oh, right. Well, you'll have to send us a postcard, clearly! -I will. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
What fabulous snapshots of bygone days. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
It's a shame Jane won't be able to join us in the saleroom. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
Well, we're now halfway through our day and you know what that means, don't you? | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
Yes, it's my favourite part of the show. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
This is where we put the valuations to the test. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
You've just seen our experts' choices, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
you're probably got your own favourites, | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
but let's see how they fare over at Canterbury Auction Rooms. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
And we're taking with us the unusual flicker books from the 1920s, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:23 | |
the campaign writing slope that I loved so much, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
and the fascinating and historical collection of postcards. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
Well, I'm getting excited, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
especially seeing this massive, big crowd, a room full of bidders, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
and this is where they're putting our valuations to the test, the Canterbury Auction Galleries. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:46 | |
Don't go away because it's auction time. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
There'll be commission to pay, it varies between auction houses. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
Here it's 20% plus VAT, and first up we have Jane's postcard album. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:57 | |
She can't be here so her friend and neighbour Irena is standing in. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
We have seen these do really well, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
especially if all the social history | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
is about the area we're selling it in, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
and I know a bit is about Kent, isn't it? | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
-Yes, yes. -So fingers crossed. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
There's a few military bits. A bit for everybody, all sorts of collectors, hopefully it'll go. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
-Yes, fingers crossed. -It's a good trade lot this. They like this kind of thing. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
Individually, some can sell for maybe £8. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
-Oh, really? -Yeah. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:24 | |
Some of them £2, some of them 50p. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
They'll have to take the rubbish with the better ones. That's why we grouped it together. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
Let's find out what the bidders think. They're going under the hammer right now. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Lot number 389 is the early 20th-century postcard album, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
et cetera. Lot number 389. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:41 | |
Two bids, starting at £160... | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
-Straight in. -Fantastic. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
160, I'm looking for 170. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
Any further bid? If not, I'm selling at £160. If we're all done at 160... | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
Yes, straight in! Two bids, both at 160. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Short and sweet, but that was great. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Are you going to get on the phone and tell her? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
I shall get on the phone and tell her, yes. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Where is she holidaying? We want to know. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
-St Petersburg. -Oh, is she? -Yes. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:07 | |
-They're on a Baltic cruise, tonight she's in St Petersburg. -That sounds really romantic. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
She'll need a nice warm jacket or a hat when she's in St Petersburg! | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
Yes. She'll be very excited. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
What a good result, and I'm sure Jane will be thrilled. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Next up it's Peter and that lovely wooden writing slope. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
-£250 you paid for this. -Yeah, I did. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-We've put two to three on it. -It's a nice box. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
It's quality and I enjoyed talking about that as well. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
We've got a packed room here, it's coming up right now. Good luck. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
That's all I can say. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
It's been a long wait and I'm a bit nervous. Here we go. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
Lot number 277 is the late George III | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
mahogany and brass-bound writing box. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
Who'll start me at £100? | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
£100, lot 277, the writing box there. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
Any bids in the room, at £100, lot 277, the writing box. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
-On the phone, anywhere else, online? No bids? -It's not selling. -No. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
The writing box, no bids? Pass it, then. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
It's not that it's too expensive. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
-It's definitely worth £200 to £300 as you know. -That's right. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Oh, well, I'm really, really sorry. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
No, that's fine. I mean... | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
Take it home, enjoy. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
Oh, yes, I shall enjoy. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
-That's life. -These things happen. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:17 | |
These things happen. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
That's a shame. I really thought that writing case was worth the money. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
Let's hope we have more luck with Joan's flicker books. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
Your flicker books put a smile on Mark's face. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
Well, they're very ancient. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
Yes, something like me! | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
These are good. I like them. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:34 | |
They're great fun. There's a golfing one. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
-Yes, and the dancing one. The dancing's good. -The Charleston. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
-Yes. We like the dancing. -Can you do the Charleston? | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
-No, not unless I've had a drink. -Oh. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
-We'll try later. -Wonderful. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
I'll look forward to it. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
We'll watch that later on, but right now this is going under the hammer. Here we go. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
Lot number 309 are the four early 20th century flicker books. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
60 I'm bid. 70, 80, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
90, 100, 110, 120, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
130, 140. Who's in at 140? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
140 online. 150, 160... | 0:16:07 | 0:16:12 | |
This is great! | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
180, 190, 200... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
Come and buy me! | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
It's on the internet at £200 now. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
If you're all done in the room, I'll sell at £200. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
Yes, the hammer's gone down. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
I think that deserves a little dance from Mark. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Shake those hips! | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
-Hey, £200, Joan! -Fantastic. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
-Your first auction as well. -Yes. I'll try again. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
You're going to go home really happy. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
What a good result, enough to make us all feel like dancing. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
There'll be more fun at the auction house later, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
but first I'm going to explore the life and times of one of the area's most famous residents. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
Charles Dickens's links with Kent go back to his early childhood | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
where his father worked as a clerk in the naval dockyard at Chatham. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
In his early 40s at the height of his fame, just after the break-up of his marriage, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
Charles Dickens returned here to Kent where he lived for the rest of his life. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
He settled just outside the town of Rochester where you can still see Dickens's influence today. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:25 | |
Dickens loved walking. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
He'd walk just about anywhere. You couldn't stop him. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
He even walked back from a night out at the theatre in London, and that's a good 30 miles. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
Rochester hasn't changed much since Dickens' day. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
These are the buildings and streets that inspired him, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
and many of them have ended up in his novels. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
And it's not just the buildings and the streets that gave Dickens his inspiration. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:55 | |
I bet when he was walking past this churchyard | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
looking at that tombstone with the name Dorrett inscribed on it, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
that's where the inspiration for the character Little Dorrit came from. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
This magnificent red-brick Elizabethan mansion house | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
I'm standing in front of is known as Eastgate House, | 0:18:15 | 0:18:18 | |
and it appears in Dickens' first novel, Pickwick Papers, as Westgate House. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
It also reappears in his last novel, The Mystery of Edwin Drood, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:27 | |
as Miss Twinkleton's Seminary for Young Ladies. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
This beautiful building behind me is called Restoration House, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:39 | |
so called because Charles II stayed here the night before | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
he was restored to the throne in 1660 as the King of England. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
It's also Miss Havisham's house in Great Expectations, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
where young Pip goes to visit and falls in love with Estella. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
Isn't that magnificent? | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
You can imagine Charles Dickens peering through these very gates | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
I'm looking through right now, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
just staring at this wonderful house, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
conjuring up all those wonderful scenes in Great Expectations... | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
Miss Havisham in her wedding dress, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
the wedding banquet covered in cobwebs, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
and then the whole thing just going up in smoke. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
And my journey today has taken me here to Gad's Hill Place, the home Dickens bought in 1856. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:29 | |
He first set eyes on Gad's Hill as a young lad whilst out walking one day with his father. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
In a letter to a friend, he wrote, "I thought it the most beautiful house ever seen, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
"and my poor father used to bring me here to look at it and used to say | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
"that if I ever grew up to be a clever man, perhaps I might own that house." | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
Gad's Hill has been a school for the past 80 years and Dickens' study is now the headmaster's office, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:59 | |
and I must say it's been quite a few years since I was last summoned to see the headmaster. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
-Sarah, pleased to meet you. -And you. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
I know you're not the headmaster. You're head of PR at the school. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
I'm not the headmaster, no. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
Thank you for letting us film here today. It's a real honour just being in Dickens' study. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
I've been here for four years and that honour never goes away. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
-Has it changed much? -It really is pretty much as it would've been when Dickens was here, | 0:20:20 | 0:20:25 | |
with the exception of a few sort of pieces of furniture. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
His desk would have looked out towards his front lawn, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
and the desk obviously isn't there now. We don't own that desk. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Probably the most interesting thing we have here are the book ends on the back of the door. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
-That's a nice touch, isn't it? -It is. I think it's fantastic touch. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
That's just the spines. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
It is, and it gives us a bit of an insight into the character of Dickens, I think. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
The book ends you've got on there, Cat's Lives in nine volumes. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
-So it goes up to nine? -It does. -He had a sense of humour. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
Yeah, a real sense of humour, quite an interesting feature in the room. | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
Although this was Dickens's study, it's not where he wrote. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
Each day, he would walk through a tunnel at the bottom of his garden to a Swiss chalet. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
It was given to him in kit form by a friend | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
and built on a patch of land known as The Wilderness. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
The historic chalet was moved to the centre of Rochester in 1961. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
There are plans to open it to the public, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
but the exterior can already be viewed by anyone who visits the town. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
What's interesting about the tunnel is there are two masks, stone masks, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
-on the tunnel at either end. -Really? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
The one at this side, this is what I like to think, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
the one at this side is the mask of comedy | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
and on the other side is the mask of tragedy, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
so I think when he was going over to do his writing, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
he saw that mask of comedy. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
When he wanted to come back into the real world through the portal, it was the mask of tragedy, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
so he was coming back into the real world, | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
back to perhaps where he didn't 100% want to be. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
The more and more I learn about him, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
the more interesting he becomes. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
A very, very complex character, and he had a very difficult upbringing. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
His father went to prison, he went to the work house and I think, because of that, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
he was constantly trying to get away from his past, and I think that he... | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
I think he struggled with life a bit. He had ten children. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Big family man, although, um, slightly scandalous... | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
his wife didn't live here so he sort of left her behind, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
so very complex but still immensely famous today. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
And I think that, in order to understand his characters, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
you have to be interested in the man, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
and I think I've probably grown to love him just a little bit. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
Gad's Hill Place was clearly more than a house to Dickens. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
It was his family home and the place from where he was inspired to write | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
some of the most famous books in British literature. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
It was also the place where, at the age of 58, he passed away. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
It's really nice that he died here, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
because he had a great affection for Kent. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
As I say, he'd grown up here, he loved walking around Kent, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
lots of elements of Kent within his writing, so it was really nice | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
-he spent his last few years here in Kent. -He came home. -He did come home, yes. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Even though the house has been a school for over 80 years, there's still a great sense of Dickens here. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
It is a very special place where somebody extraordinary has lived, breathed and imagined | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
some of the most memorable characters and stories ever written. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
Our valuation day is being held at the fabulous Kings Hall in Herne Bay on the north Kent coast. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:37 | |
Mark's obviously been enjoying being by the sea. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
He's talking boats with Terry and Marilyn. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
The story starts a few months back. My auntie came to visit us and I don't know what it was... | 0:23:43 | 0:23:48 | |
-She was getting something out of the back of the car, and there was this box with these in it. -Oh, right. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:54 | |
I said, "What are you doing with those?" | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
She said, "Throw them away." | 0:23:56 | 0:23:57 | |
And I said, "No, no, don't do that. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
"Leave them with me and I'll dispose of them | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
"and, if it's all right with you, whatever we get for them | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
"we'll donate to our local branch of the Multiple Sclerosis Society." | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
Oh, what a lovely idea. What a lovely idea. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
So somebody said, "Oh, they're doing a Flog It! at Herne Bay," | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
so we thought, "Right, go for the adventure." | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
I'm glad you did. They've obviously been played with a bit | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
and they're not in their boxes or in pristine condition, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
but generally speaking Tri-ang are very well known | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
for the quality of their manufacture. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
They're very tiny but the detail is quite exquisite. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Well, when we unpacked them from this box from my auntie's, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
I was really impressed with the amount of detail. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Just such small items, you know, the guns on the battleships | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
and some of the rigging on some of the other boats, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
and how on earth they did that in the model-making process | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
I don't quite know. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:54 | |
They specialised in all sorts of toy-making, of course, Tri-ang, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
and if we look at this boat, which of course looks quite stupendous, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:03 | |
and it should do because it's actually the Queen Mary. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
The detail of the funnels and all the decking, the lifeboats, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
and even the little windows punched out | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
and the detail of the stud work... | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
And they're so small as well. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
I know. It's really good fun, actually. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
We've got it marked underneath, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
Queen Mary, and we've got the mark for Tri-ang as well. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
-I think they were based in Margate... -Which is just up the road. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:28 | |
-I think they were part of Hornby Hobbies at one time. -Oh, right. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
I'm sure, in the saleroom, people are going to find them interesting, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
but at what level is difficult to predict, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
because collectors of this type of thing | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
are quite specific about having the box, being in mint condition and that kind of thing, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
but we've got to be quite sensible. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Obviously, we've got to try and raise as much money as we can for the charity. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
We're probably looking at about £60 to £100 for the lot. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
-Right. -So you're happy with that? -Yes, we're very happy. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
Fantastic. Let's do it. They might even sail past our estimate. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
I'll let you get away with that pun, Mark. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
Right now, I'm heading outside to see how the queue's doing. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Who owns this? Let me shake your hand. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
I think, apart from you, only one other gentleman today has brought some furniture along, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:20 | |
so good on you, because we do need more furniture on the show. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
If you've got some, bring it along to one of our valuation days because we don't see enough of it. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
We have stewards to help you unload it from the car | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
and carry it into the venue, so please bring it along. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
We do get an awful lot of smalls and it looks so great to have these big things on TV. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
-So hopefully you'll be selling this later on, will you? -Hope so. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Fingers crossed. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
We might not get a lot of big items, but we do get a lot of Clarice Cliff and we're always happy to see it. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:50 | |
Anne and her son Spencer have brought in a piece to show Kate. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
I was bored one day | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
and I was reading the local paper, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
and I saw for sale a Clarice Cliff bowl. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
-In a private advert? -Yes. -OK. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
-£65 was the asking price. -Right. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
I paid it happily. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
-And how long ago was this? -20 years ago, wasn't it? -20 years. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
That was a lot of money back then, wasn't it? 65. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
Yeah, I love Art Deco. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:23 | |
So do you know anything more about this particular pattern? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
I did have a Clarice Cliff book that I looked through | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
and I never found the pattern, no picture. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
You haven't been able to find it, have you? | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
It's not one I've seen, but I don't think it's one of the most rare ones. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
The best thing would be for it to go to auction but for the auction house to have a look | 0:27:39 | 0:27:44 | |
and do more research on the pattern and see if they can find the name. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
It's possible it's an unlisted pattern but there are websites and collectors' clubs | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
that list all the patterns so they'd be able to find out. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
But it's quite a funky piece of design, anyway. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
-I can see why you liked it. It's classic Clarice Cliff, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
You've got the really good acid colours, the green, the yellow. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
These really strange... a bit like fried eggs, the fried-egg flowers. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
Yeah, they are fried eggs! | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
So it's a really iconic bit of design. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
We go on about Clarice Cliff but they are the best of their era, | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
but I'm going to moan about condition. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Yeah. They told me, the couple I bought it from, they were quite elderly. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
They'd used it as a plant pot. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
I can see in the front here, there is a lot of damage wear-wise to the paint | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
and also there's a great big hairline crack along the bottom, | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
so that's obviously going to affect the price. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Any ideas what you're hoping to get for it if you put it in a sale? | 0:28:36 | 0:28:40 | |
I was hoping for 80 to 100. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
I think, with the condition being as it is, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
it's going to be maybe a little bit less. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
I would have said, in that condition, £40 to £60. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
You can never tell, can you? | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
Would you sell it? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:55 | |
If we put it in with a reserve of £40, would you sell it at that | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
or would you be gutted? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
Could it run to 60? | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
It's your item so if you would be really disappointed to sell it for lower than your reserve | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
obviously there's no point putting it in. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
If you'd take 60 as the least, put that as your reserve, we'll put 60-100 as an estimate. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:16 | |
There are people that collect and sometimes condition won't matter if it's a very rare pattern. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
It's worth a go. That's the best thing about auctions. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
You have no idea what'll happen. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
-It's what someone wants to pay. -And it'll go on the internet. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
-You loved it and hopefully somebody else will. -I did. I do. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Why are you selling it now, then? | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
We're thinking of downsizing as I have Parkinson's... | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
She can't do the stairs. | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
I can at the moment, but there'll be a time when I can't. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
I've got to start letting go. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Sorting through your collection, getting rid of stuff. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
Dad likes to break things as well. He's a compulsive cleaner! | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
That's not what you want in a room-full of china, is it, really? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
I hope we can get it sold and help with the move. That would be great, wouldn't it? | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
-Yeah. -Thanks for bringing it in. -Thank you. -Thank you. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:07 | |
I'm sure that bowl will do well. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
At least Anne's husband won't break it when he's dusting! | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
Now, where shall I go next? | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
Kieran, this is a very nice map by John Speed. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:21 | |
Early 17th-century map. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:22 | |
He was a surveyor | 0:30:22 | 0:30:23 | |
and he was championed by royalty in this country, | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
and they actually financed a lot of his work. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
The secret of Speed maps is the fact that they were all printed | 0:30:29 | 0:30:34 | |
in Holland, the quality of the printing was superb, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
then brought back here and hand-coloured. This shows the shires. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire. Look at this. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
-Look at Reading. -Very detailed, isn't it? | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Quite incredible! Look how small it was then. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
And this is a good sign, seeing lots of armorials, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
because he would've got sponsors as well. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
These crests, family coat of arms, actually sponsored and paid him so they could be part of the map. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
What's the other side for? I've inherited, or been given this by my parents. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
Whoever framed this did a jolly good job | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
because it's so nice to have the map on one side, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
but also the history of Buckinghamshire on the other, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
so it tells you a little bit about the place, which is fascinating. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
The condition is superb, there's no foxing. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
Now, when I first started Flog It! about ten years ago, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
these maps were very, very popular. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
They'd just about peaked then and were fetching £800 to £1200 in good condition, | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
but they've started to lose their popularity. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
The ones that people want now are the ones that show the coastline, a slight bit of coastline. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:40 | |
Nevertheless, if you put this into auction, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
it should realise around £500 to £700. What were you hoping for? | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
Probably double what my father paid for it, which was 500. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:52 | |
-So you were hoping for £1,000? -Probably about there. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
Maybe hang onto it, and hopefully fashions will change again. | 0:31:54 | 0:31:58 | |
And the key to this actually if you do want to sell it, is sell it | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
in the Reading area because that map of Reading is quite unique. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
Look at that street plan. Look at the way Reading's spelt. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
R-E-D-D-I-N-G. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
That did cross my mind, actually. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
Yeah. Yeah. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
If you want to sell it, put it into an auction room | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
in the Home Counties, in the shires. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
But what a wonderful thing and thank you so much for bringing that in. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
Thank you very much for your time. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
Kieran's holding on to his map so we won't sell that one. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
I wonder if Jan will feel the same about the bronze stag she's showing Mark. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:29 | |
Well, what can I say? What a lovely stag you've brought in. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
I like him too. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
Tell me all about him. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
I bought him about 40 to 45 years ago in a flea market in Greenwich, London. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:44 | |
-How much did you pay for him? -£4.50. -£4.50? | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
-In the old money. -I'll double your money for you. How about that? -No! | 0:32:47 | 0:32:52 | |
Quite right. So what attracted you to him? | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
His eyes. If you look, he'll follow you about. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
Beautifully painted. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
Yeah, they don't move but they feel as though they do. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
He's very freaky, actually. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
It's very beautifully painted. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
-Was this antler like this when you bought it? -Yes. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
So I think it has been dropped somewhere cos that antler would almost certainly be up here. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:14 | |
Now, do you know what it was made of? | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
No, I thought it was just metal. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Well, it's actually made of bronze, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
and this technique of decorating is called cold-painted bronze. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
So this has been painted once the figure has cooled down, | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
and it's quite a specialist technique. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:31 | |
It's most popular in places like Austria and Germany. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
The maker you always associate with pieces of this quality is Franz Bergman. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:40 | |
Now, he specialised in these sort of cold-painted bronze animals, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
birds, lobsters, all sorts of things, | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
and he sneakily did some very risque ones | 0:33:46 | 0:33:51 | |
where there was a young lady, say, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
with a bronze cloak on, all beautifully decorated. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
And then, when you opened her up, she'd be naked inside. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
-Ohh. -Now, on those ones, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:02 | |
he signs his name is reverse, so it says Namgreb instead of Bergman. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:07 | |
-I see. -Cos he didn't want to be associated with those, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
but those I'm sure were his most profitable ones. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
Unfortunately, I've had a chance to look at this, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
I can't see a mark. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:18 | |
What I can see, in a very indelicate part of the stag's anatomy, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:23 | |
is a stamp for "geschutz" | 0:34:23 | 0:34:27 | |
which is a German or Austrian word which means registered. | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
You normally find that in association with Bergman so that's a very good sign. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
The other reason I think we can safely say that it's a Bergman | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
is just the sheer quality of it... | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
the decoration, the quality of the eyes, the painted nose. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
It looks like a stag, doesn't it? It's wonderful in quality. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
And you paid £4.50 for it? | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
They're quite popular. There's quite a big market for these. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
I'm a little bit cautious, Jan, simply because of this. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
When you try to adjust these, if you adjust them too much, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
you'll snap the whole thing off, | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
so I'm being a little bit cautious on that. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:08 | |
What do you think it might be worth? Have you got an opinion? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
Not really, no. I think about ten years, | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
a friend of mine, her husband offered me £100 for him. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
-Well, that's too little. -But I said no. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
If it was in absolutely perfect condition, with the antlers and signed, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:26 | |
I think we could easily say this was worth... | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
oh, gosh, £400, £500 or more. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
If we tried it in at say £250 to £350 and put a reserve of £250... | 0:35:32 | 0:35:40 | |
I'm not bothered about a reserve, to be honest. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
-I think we should. -We should? -Yeah. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
If the internet goes down or whatever, or if people aren't there, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:50 | |
then it could go for £50, though I doubt it. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
But you don't want it back, is that what you're saying? | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
Then let's put a slightly lower reserve of £200 on it, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
but this is such a quality piece and it's really made our afternoon. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:07 | |
That's a rather special thing. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:09 | |
I think this is the one to watch. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
There you are. You've just seen it. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
Our experts have made their final choices | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
so now it's time to say a fond farewell to Herne Bay. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
It's been wonderful filming here for the day, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
but now we're moving inland to the Canterbury Auction Rooms. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
And we're taking with us Terry and Marilyn's miniature boats, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:29 | |
that charming Clarice Cliff bowl, | 0:36:29 | 0:36:31 | |
and Jan's fantastic bronze stag. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
Before the sale, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:38 | |
I got the chance to talk to auctioneer Cliona Kilroy | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
about the bronze stag. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Absolutely love this. Big fan of cold-painted bronze, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
especially if they're signed Bergman, but this is gorgeous, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:50 | |
this stag and it belongs to Jan. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
Mark, our expert, put £250 to £350 on this, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
and I think that'll fly away cos the small ones do that. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
Absolutely. He's just stunning, stunning quality. | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
Everything about him, features, detail, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
it's all there, and I just think he's great, really unusual, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
and I think he'll make all of that money easily. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
-You're enthusiastic about this? -I really like him, yes. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
OK, stick your neck out... | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
OK, there has been a bit of interest and I would hope that he would... | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
-Four to six? -..break his top estimate. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
I'd like him to do that and I think it is possible. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
The buck stops here. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
We'll see how the stag does a little bit later on, but first up | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
it's Terry who's come to see the miniature boats go under the hammer, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
although his wife Marilyn couldn't make it. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
We've got £100 riding on this at the top end, £60 to £100. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
We hope, for the cause they're going to, they get as much as they can. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
-Exactly. Remind us again. -I'm the local chairman of the Thanet branch of the Multiple Sclerosis Society, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:49 | |
and whatever this raises will go to help with the work that that branch does. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:55 | |
Great cause. Going under the hammer right now. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
Lot number 245 is the Tri-ang model ship of RMS Queen Mary. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:05 | |
Lot number 245, who'll start me at £40? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
Thank you, 40 I'm bid. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:08 | |
Who's in at 50 now? | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
Bid is on my right at £40. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:12 | |
£50 I'm looking for. Any interest at 50? | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
-Come on, please, come on. -Any interest at £50? | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
On my right... 50 I'm bid. 60? 70? | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
70 anywhere? On my right at £60, then, and selling at 60... | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Every little penny helps. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
-Every little penny helps. -It does. I thought it was quite cheap, though. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
-So did I! -I thought it would've gone for a bit more. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
But thank you for doing what you've done | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
and it's raised a few pounds towards running a local branch. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
And raised the profile so hopefully more people will be aware. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
-Yes. Thank you. -Thanks. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:41 | |
You've got family support. That's your daughter. What's her name? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
She's Emily. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:46 | |
-Emily, hi there. -Come to support me. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
A good result for a good cause. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
We're happy with that. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
Next up it's the Clarice Cliff bowl | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
being sold by Anne and her son Spencer. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
This really is your inheritance. Mum should be handing it down to you, Spence. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Yes, I know, but... | 0:39:01 | 0:39:03 | |
But I can't see Spence wanting a bit of Clarice Cliff, can you, Kate? | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
It's a bit girly. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
You might like that, I don't know. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
-I'll take the money! -Take the money. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
-You paid £65 for this. -Correct. -Yes. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
-How long ago? -A long, long time ago. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
-Top money, then? -I'd like to, I'd like to. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
Hopefully, we can improve on that over 20 years, Kate. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
It has got a crack so that might do for it, but you never know. | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
-That's what's fun about auctions. Fingers crossed. -Yeah. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Lot number 37 is the Clarice Cliff Erin pattern octagonal bowl. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
Who'll start me at £50? Any interest at 50? 50 I'm bid. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
Who's in at £60 now? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
-60 for someone? -We want two people. -Yes. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
Thank you. £60 I'm bid. 70? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:48 | |
-80? -There's a telephone bidder. -Good. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
-90, 100, 110... -They like it. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:56 | |
120, 130, 140, 150, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
160, 170, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
180, 190... | 0:40:04 | 0:40:05 | |
Oh, they love it, don't they? Clarice! | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
200? Anybody at £200? | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
I'm selling at £190 if we're all done... | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
Hammer's gone down. £190. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
Excellent, isn't it? | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
That's my first... | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
I'm really pleased. That was great. I thought maybe the condition would do it, but that's great. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:24 | |
-Yeah, that's quality. -It is nice, though. Good pattern. Erin pattern was a lovely pattern. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
-It was lovely. Lovely colours. -Yeah. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
Are you going to treat each other? I think you should take Mum out for lunch. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
She can take me out now! | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
A good result. Clarice Cliff still does the business. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
Next up it's Jan who bought her magnificent bronze stag more than 40 years ago. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:47 | |
-Well, I'm excited. Are you? -No. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
No? Oh, come on, you must be, Jan. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
-You must be! -I am a little bit. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:55 | |
We're just about to say goodbye to that wonderful Bergman bronze. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:59 | |
We're looking at £350 at Mark's top end but I had a chat to Cliona | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
and we both feel it could easily double that. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
You just don't know. If two people want it... | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
It's weird the way the eyes look at you. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
-Why do you want to sell it? -I'm getting old now so I want to buy some double glazing. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:17 | |
Oh, we could get you some of that, hopefully, | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
if this goes for double the top end, | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
and if it does, Mark's there to catch you. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
We both will. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Lot number 524, the cold-painted bronze figure of the stag. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
Who'll start me at £200? | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
-Any bid at £200? -Oh, come on. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
£200 I'm bid. Who's in at 210? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:38 | |
Any interest at 210, 220, 230, 240, 250, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:44 | |
260, 270, 280, 290, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
300 and 20, 340, 360, 380... | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
This is more like it. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
440, 460, 480, 500, 520, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
540, 560, 580, 600? Anybody at 600? | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
600 and 20, 640, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
660, 680, 700, | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
720, 740, 760... | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
-I'm shaking. -780, 800... | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
820, 840, 860, 880, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
900, 920, 940, 960, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:27 | |
980, 1,000, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
1,100, 1,150. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:34 | |
The bid is at £1,100 on the telephone now. Any further offer? | 0:42:34 | 0:42:38 | |
If not, I'm selling at £1,100. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:39 | |
The bid is with Chris at 1,100. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
Yes, the hammer's gone down. £1,100! | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
-They love that. -Fantastic quality. | 0:42:45 | 0:42:47 | |
I knew I was being a bit cautious, but it never lets you down, does it? | 0:42:47 | 0:42:52 | |
No, no, not at all. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
Well, that was a nice surprise, wasn't it? | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
Thank you. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
I told you I'd give you a kiss. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:00 | |
Oh, I'll never wash again! | 0:43:00 | 0:43:04 | |
It doesn't get much better than that. Well worth a kiss. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
Well, sadly we're coming to the end of another show. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
A few lows and a few highs there, but that's auctions for you. | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
But I can guarantee something, they're always full of surprises, so do join me again for many more. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:21 | |
But for now, from Canterbury, it's cheerio. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
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