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We've all seen them on TV, but how will the country's favourite antiques experts fare

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when they're challenged to make a profit with their own cash?

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Excellent.

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He who laughs last, laughs loudest.

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From car boot sales to auction houses,

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our experts will be recreating some of their real-life deals

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as they go head-to-head and try and make the most money

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for their chosen charities.

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Purchase of the week!

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Fantastic! I'm thrilled with that.

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The challenge to our experts is clear -

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dealers, put your money where your mouth is!

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Today's duelling dealers are auctioneer John "The Hammer" Cameron

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and princess of profit Katherine "The Great" Higgins.

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I'm very competitive. I went to an all-girls school

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and I was kind of brought up to like a competition

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and to win, most importantly.

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Katherine's vast knowledge of antiques and collectables has served her well,

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whether it be writing books and articles

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or revealing the true value of people's heirlooms

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on the Antiques Roadshow.

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I get seriously excited about retro design, really.

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Things that people can use in their homes,

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but have a real history behind them.

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It's only through those items that you've a real living history.

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You can find out who owned the items

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and do lots of research attached to them.

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That's what makes me buzz and that's kind of me, really -

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a bit of a modernist at heart.

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Her opponent started out as an apprentice carpenter,

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but a back injury forced John to seek out an alternative career

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and the rest, as they say, is history.

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He's now a respected auctioneer and a valuer of antiques and fine art.

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My route into antiques came via my grandfather,

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who I spent a lot of time with.

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He was an antiques dealer outside of the family's fruit and veg business

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and I really wanted to be like him and I grew up.

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I thought that was fascinating.

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John's a firm favourite on Cash In The Attic

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and when he isn't valuing antiques,

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he can be found selling from the auctioneer's podium.

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At 420, then...

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So we have our experts, they have the knowledge,

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the contacts and a fierce determination to win,

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so it's time for us to find out the aim of today's game.

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-Katherine The Great!

-Mr Hammer. How are you doing?

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-What a beautiful day!

-It is indeed. I have something for you here.

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I've got a pressie for you, too.

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John and Katherine, your challenge today is to spend

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up to £1,000 of your own money on antiques.

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You must then resell your purchases

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with the aim of making as much profit as possible.

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The winner is the presenter who makes the most cash.

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Today you must buy all your antiques from an auction. Good luck.

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-Right, I guess we'd better find ourselves an auction.

-OK.

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So, Katherine and John can spend up to £1,000 of their own money

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on antiques before trying to sell on their wares

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for the biggest possible profit.

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The backdrop for today's epic auction battle

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is Winchester in Hampshire.

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There are hundreds of items on offer,

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but our experts will be targeting lots with their potential buyers in mind.

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As today's contest gets underway, it seems as though the early bidding

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will be dominated by pictures and paintings.

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John has got his eye on a Victorian picture of a donkey with children

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painted by a British artist and an etching of an English battleship.

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His rival has spotted a very collectable item

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but she wants to keep her bidding plans to herself.

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This is a moment of great excitement for me.

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I'm not a picture person but I think I might have seen something that's a little bit special.

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There is a portrait in there, it's very striking, a pencil drawing of a girl,

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nude model, sitting down. It's catalogued as being after Epstein.

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Jacob Epstein was the predominant modernist sculptor of the 20th century.

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He led a very colourful life. He had several wives

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and many, many mistresses. This particular drawing

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was actually once owned by Lady Epstein and apparently given to a friend of hers.

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I looked very closely at it. I'm not a picture girl but let's see, I might be right!

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So, Katherine's not sure that the Epstein is an original,

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but it's not the only work of art she's got her eye on.

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Another interesting thing in there is a full-length portrait of a girl,

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inscribed "Kelly" at the bottom.

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She looks very far away and distant

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and she's dreaming and it instantly caught my eye.

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I thought that it looks like something else

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and it's actually by Sir Gerald Kelly.

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Sir Gerald Kelly is a very important British portrait artist.

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He's known for his work in the 20th century,

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right up until his death in 1972.

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He painted the royal family. He's a very good, established artist.

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This is a pastel drawing by him.

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It's very accomplished, very detailed and I think a steal, really,

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at the estimate of £150-£200.

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Sir Gerald Kelly generally signs his work "Kelly" at the bottom,

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and this has been catalogued as simply "Kelly."

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Because it's a portrait of a girl,

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someone looking at the catalogue might just think it's the girl's name, the name of the subject,

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rather than the artist, so it could be easily missed.

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It's only if you know about Kelly's style and his work

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you would be able to attribute it to Sir Gerald Kelly.

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So, I think I've spotted something.

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At £30, are you all done?

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Last time.

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So, that's two potential picture purchases for Katherine.

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In the sale room, the auction has started and it's John's donkey picture

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which is about to go under the hammer.

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Lot 30, young girl leading a donkey.

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£60? 50 here?

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40 if you like. Start me at 30 then.

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£30, surely. £30? £30 here.

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And selling. Is there two?

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At £30, then. We'll sell at this price if you're all done.

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At £30, the last time.

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Nicely done, John. With no opposition in the room

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he snapped up the picture, and with commission he's paid just over £35.

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He'll be hoping it'll be plain sailing again

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as the etching of the English battleship goes before the bidders.

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We have a commission bid.

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I'm going to start the bidding at £40. Is there five in the room?

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At 45. 50. And five.

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57. 60.

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Commission bid is out.

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£60 in the room. Is there five? At £60 and selling, then.

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Are you all done at £60? Last time.

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Got that at £60. Hopefully I'll be able to turn that, maybe make £100, £120 on that.

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Yes, that's another quick purchase for The Hammer.

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Including commission he's parted with just over £70,

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but what exactly has he bought?

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I instantly recognised the ship here. It's HMS Victory,

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probably one of England's most famous ships and Nelson's flagship

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at the Battle of Trafalgar.

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Now in dry dock in Portsmouth's naval dockyard.

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When I also saw it I thought of William Wylie -

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very famous Portsmouth artist,

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known for his painting of ships and known for his mastery

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of this medium here, which is called a dry point etching.

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However, it's not by Wylie.

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It's signed down here in the border by Charles H somebody or other.

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The auctioneers aren't too sure,

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it's indistinctly signed, but it's a limited edition, number 56 of 75.

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Now, etching is a form of printing.

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A copper plate is covered with a resin, you then scratch

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your design into the surface of the resin to expose the copper plate.

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The plate is then dipped in a vat of acid

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and the acid bites into the copper plate creating the intaglio

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which would then take the ink.

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The advantages over engraving?

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Much more spontaneity.

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As you can see here this looks like a pencil drawing.

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A very nice piece indeed.

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I'm sure that down in Portsmouth

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I should be able to find a buyer for this.

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Well, time will tell if John's confidence is well placed.

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Katherine is still to get off the mark.

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Her pencil sketch will be coming before the room shortly.

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But first, John's hoping to pick up a print of yachts

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by one of the country's most popular living maritime artists.

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OK, next coming up is another maritime lot I'm interested in.

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I may well have put all my stock in one theme, but hopefully

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I won't have to go hard astern and tack in a different direction.

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Anyway, it's a limited edition print by J Steven Dews

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of the J Class yachts, very famous yachts, racing off Cowes.

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Nicely framed. Limited edition.

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This would probably cost about £300 to £400 in a gallery.

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The estimate is £50 to £80.

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I've put down £65 to £70 as my highest bid. Let's see how I go.

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Lot 96,

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Steven Dews.

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-Let's watch his style. Does he have style?

-I'll start the bidding at £50.

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Is there five in the room? At 55.

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Oh, he's the action of the fountain pen.

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70. And five. 80. At £75 and selling. Is there 80?

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At £75 then. Are you all done?

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Last time.

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Well, got that for £75 plus my 15% commission.

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I'm pretty happy with that.

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Well, the jury's out about whether he did it with style,

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but that's The Hammer's third buy of the day.

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With commission, it cost just under £90.

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With her rival having bagged himself another lot,

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Katherine needs to start buying and it's time for the "after Epstein" pencil sketch

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to go before the room.

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Just coming into the Epstein lot now.

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Lot 48, after Epstein. £100, surely.

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£100? Thank you. And ten. At £100.

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I like coming in at the last minute.

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£100. No? 110. 120. 130.

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140. 150.

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160. £150 at the front. At £150 and we are selling.

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Think I might get it!

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£150 then for the last time.

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Oh, wonderful!

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Oh, joy of joys! 'Tis mine!

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Indeed it is! And including the auctioneer's commission,

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she's paid just over £175.

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Time to see if she'll have similar success

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with the pastel portrait of a girl.

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Start me at 200. £200?

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£200? 150, then.

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150? 150? £100 if you like.

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£100.

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OK, I've started the bidding.

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110. 120. 130. 140.

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-Katherine's in, but once again the price is climbing.

-160. 170.

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-180. 190.

-I love a bidding battle.

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180 at the front here. 190. 200.

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And 20. £200 is still at the front.

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Shame it's not in millions, that's what I'm used to!

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At £200, are you sure? Last time.

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Great, I got that, as well.

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Very, very pleased. That's an extremely good buy.

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I know exactly who's going to buy it,

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I know what they'll pay me for it

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and you'll just have to watch the rest! Magic.

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It sounds as though Katherine's got

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a potential buyer in mind for the portrait.

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And although it didn't cost her millions,

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she did part with a big chunk of her budget.

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A certain interest, lot 148, eight Pirelli calendars.

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And continuing with her picture buying theme,

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she also snaps up a collection of iconic calendars

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for just under £60.

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At £50 for the last time.

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Excellent.

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I wonder what she's got in store for those? I'm hoping she has a client.

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Yes, was it me or did The Hammer seem to be speaking

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through gritted teeth there?

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With his rival on a bit of a buying streak,

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John is hoping to strike back.

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Coming up now is a little lot I'm interested in.

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It's a pottery cigarette box, the Balkan Sobranie cigarettes.

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I'm glad to say not a brand I'm familiar with, however I do know

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some buyers of early advertising ware,

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although cigarettes aren't the most popular things to sell.

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However, I am going to have a go at this but I'm not going to go above the £60 upper estimate.

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-Let's see how we get on.

-Start me at £40 on this. £40?

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30 if you like. £30?

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At £30. Are you all done? Last time.

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Well, £30, not bad.

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I wasn't prepared to go over the 60, but I got it for half the money!

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That's another lightning fast purchase for the Hammer.

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With commission, he paid just over £35

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and he seems flushed with success.

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It's a little piece of Edwardian history.

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It's a cigarette box, but no ordinary cigarette box.

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It's made of pottery by Fieldings of Stoke-on-Trent,

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and the brand, the Balkan Sobranie cigarette. Interesting.

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Now, I know smoking's not terribly fashionable, but there's a big

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collecting market for advertising wares from the 19th century.

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Now, when you think back to the Industrial Revolution,

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that's when manufacturing really, really took off

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and firms were quick to cash in on the decorative effect

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of their packaging and everything from ginger jar bottles to paste jars, soap packaging

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and the humble cigarette box had the makeover.

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It's an interesting design.

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It's a monochrome transfer print of, I'm guessing,

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a Balkan scene with some figures in there.

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It does have a little bit of damage here just on the edge,

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but I think it's unusual enough to tempt my potential customer.

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Both our experts are concentrating hard

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and using all of their expertise and know-how

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to try and snap up lots that they can sell on for a profit.

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But which of them has been splashing the cash

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and who's been keeping their powder dry?

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Katherine and John are allowed to spend up to £1,000

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of their own money in today's auction.

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After three successful bidding battles,

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Mrs Higgins has parted with almost £470

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leaving just over £530 in her kitty.

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John on the other hand has spent less than half that,

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giving him over £770 still to play with.

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Katherine may have spent more than her rival,

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but she's bought one item less.

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There are still plenty of lots to come up for sale, though,

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and earlier in the day she picked out a piece

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she thought could hold a potential profit.

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Ah, this is interest... This is where all the ceramics lie

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and it's worth spending some time looking at these.

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This is a great piece, actually.

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A biscuit barrel, fantastic condition.

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Carltonware, a great British factory that really grew out

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of a firm called Wiltshire & Robinson

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which was founded in the 1890s and by the 1920s had kind of adopted

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the Carltonware name.

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Carltonware is dramatically underrated.

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As the prices for Clarice Cliff have gone through the roof,

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Carltonware is still appreciating in value.

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It's a great piece, a very desirable collectable and the estimate is £40

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to £60 for this and the plates, so I think if I got it for the low end

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of the estimate I'd do quite well,

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because I know someone who would love to buy this from me now for £60.

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Well, it might not be as glamorous as some

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of the other items she's bidded on,

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but the aim of this game is to make a profit

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and if Katherine gets this lot for the right price,

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she seems confident she can do just that.

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Our two experts have approached today's contest

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with two very different strategies and have so far

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bid on very different items, but there is one lot in the room

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that has caught both the expert eyes.

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It's this beautiful handmade Daum vase.

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We'll find out very shortly

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if either of them is able to snap it up,

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but before that big showdown, Katherine has spotted

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a late Victorian, early Edwardian ladies' dressing table set.

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I'll start at £100. Is there ten in the room?

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110. 120. 130.

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The commission bid's out.

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130 in the room. Is there 140? 140.

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We've got commission bids and she's not in the bidding yet.

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160 at the back and selling. At £160. 170.

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Katherine's joined the bidding late. Will it prove to be a decisive move?

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180. 170 right at the front.

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At £170 and selling then if you're all done. Last time.

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-205.

-Thank you.

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Including commission, Katherine's paid almost £200

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for the dressing table set, and next, she's hoping to snap up

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the Carltonware biscuit barrel and plates with an estimate of £40 to £60.

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Unfortunately for her, the bidding is approaching £300.

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300...

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This is something that I picked and I knew would do well, and look at it!

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280 in the room. At £280, then. If you're all done, last time.

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Great sadness. I had to control myself there.

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Wasn't easy, but I did.

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So the Carltonware was too expensive for Katherine,

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but it's now time for her and John to go head-to-head

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for the Daum vase.

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438 is the glass vase.

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It's Katherine The Great...

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..versus The Hammer.

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Who will emerge victorious?

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It's time for the headline battle of today's auction.

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-Start the bidding at £90.

-John is first to bid.

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Is there 100? And ten. 120. 130. 140.

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I'm so sorry. The girl has to...

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140. 150.

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Shall I be kind?

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-I'll be kind.

-140 there. At £140.

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Gosh, that's tempting, but it's over my limit.

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I said I was going to be controlled.

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-At £140...

-I'm going to let him have it.

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So, Katherine may not have bought the vase, but she certainly

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made John pay more than he wanted to.

0:18:350:18:37

Well, I got that at 140.

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I would have got it for 120 if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!

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Well, it ended up more of a polite challenge

0:18:440:18:46

than a clash of the titans,

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but John only needed to part with just under £165 to secure the vase.

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The Hammer will also be hoping to make a profit

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from a Royal Doulton

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limited edition plate and mug

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celebrating the history of the Ashes.

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That including commission set him back just under £45.

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-At £37 then are you all done? Last time.

-Got that.

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Both our experts have worked hard to secure

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potentially profitable lots in today's auction.

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With money left to spend, Katherine's keen to snap up

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another item and has her eye on a 1950s German tinplate toy bird

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with an estimate of £40 to £60.

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Lot 617 is the tinplate bird with his twittering action.

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I am going to start you here at £20.

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Anybody else in? 25. 28. 30. Yes?

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-Yeah.

-And two.

-Yeah, yeah. I'm game. I like twittering.

-£35, then.

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Lady's bid at £35.

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Anybody else in at 35? All done at £35 then.

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Exactly what I wanted to pay and, fingers crossed, I can find the right buyer for it.

0:19:510:19:56

Including commission, the tinplate toy bird

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has cost Katherine just over £40.

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Finding the right buyers for all of their items is going to be crucial

0:20:020:20:06

for both our experts if they want to win today's contest.

0:20:060:20:10

With the buying part of their challenge now over,

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it's time to find out how many items they've bought

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and how much cash they've spent.

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Katherine and John started the day with up to £1,000

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of their own money in their kitties.

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Mrs Higgins bought five items and parted with almost £710.

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Her rival bought six items and spent just over £436.

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Time will tell which of our experts bought most wisely,

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but before they head home to try and sell their auction purchases,

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Katherine and John are keen to sneak a peek at their opponent's wares.

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Mr Hammer! What an exhausting day.

0:20:490:20:53

-How did you do?

-I did brilliantly.

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Well, no, OK, I did extra brilliantly! Sorry!

0:20:560:20:59

What did I find? Well, all this array of things,

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but that's a real treat and a real favourite of mine.

0:21:020:21:06

I just love that. It's a Sir Gerald Kelly pastel,

0:21:060:21:10

very eye-catching and it's got potential.

0:21:100:21:13

I can see why you like it, but what about the Pirelli calendars?

0:21:130:21:17

Oh, girls love those kind of things, you know that!

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-I thought it was more your kind of garage guys sort of thing.

-Maybe a few garage guys.

0:21:200:21:25

-Good luck with that.

-Thank you. How about you?

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My favourite item has to be my Steven Dews print,

0:21:270:21:30

J Class yachts off the Isle of Wight.

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I'm sure I can find a buyer for that down my neck of the woods.

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It makes me want to sail away. What have you got in here?

0:21:350:21:38

You've got quite an interesting box, or...

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It's got a chip on it.

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Well, we've all got a chip on our shoulder,

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but that piece will do all right.

0:21:450:21:46

It's early advertising and I think I have a buyer for that,

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so he who laughs last, last longest.

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I'm laughing!

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Well, we better get our gear packed up and get our buyers lined up.

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Time to go.

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So, as our duelling dealers head home, John's hopes of victory

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rest on... a drawing of a donkey by an unknown artist,

0:22:040:22:08

a print of racing yachts,

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an etching of an English battleship,

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an early 20th century cigarette box,

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a Royal Doulton mug and plate

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commemorating the Ashes

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and a highly collectable Daum vase.

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Katherine will be hoping to sell...

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a nude which she believes is an Epstein original,

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a portrait of a young girl,

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eight Pirelli calendars,

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a walnut ladies' dressing set

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and the German tinplate toy bird.

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Having gone head-to-head, John and Katherine

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have made their way home to prepare themselves

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for the final part of their challenge -

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to sell on their items and make as much profit

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as possible for their charities.

0:22:540:22:56

I could come over. What day did you have in mind?

0:22:560:22:59

They're working their way through their little black books

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putting deals together on the phone and by email.

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Pretty much everyone they try to do deals with will be aware that

0:23:050:23:09

they're on a mission to try and raise money for charity,

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but until they've shaken on it and money's changed hands,

0:23:130:23:16

no deal is truly done.

0:23:160:23:18

With just six lots to sell, John knows he has to maximise

0:23:180:23:21

the profit from every single sale if he's going to beat Katherine.

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First, he's hoping to cash in on his donkey picture.

0:23:250:23:29

The things I'll do to make a profit!

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Ah! I see donkeys.

0:23:330:23:36

The Hammer paid just over £35 for the picture.

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Can he make a profit?

0:23:410:23:42

Hi, John!

0:23:420:23:44

Hello, Helen.

0:23:440:23:46

-Nice to see you.

-Good to see you.

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I'm feeling a little bit nervous around all these donkeys.

0:23:480:23:51

You don't mind coming to see me, do you?

0:23:510:23:53

Every time I see you, you've got something for me.

0:23:530:23:56

Have a look at the detail in there.

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It's 19th century, beautifully done in coloured pencils.

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It's not signed, but I think the work speaks for itself.

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-So what do you think of it?

-I love the donkey.

0:24:060:24:09

The little girls are nice. The only trouble being I've got so many donkey pictures, John.

0:24:090:24:13

Have another look, Helen, look. I think this is you.

0:24:130:24:16

I think this could be a young Helen here with

0:24:160:24:18

the foxgloves coming back from the garden centre

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and your two daughters.

0:24:210:24:22

-This is made for you, this picture!

-Have I the space?

0:24:220:24:25

I'll tell you what, Helen. I was prepared to bid £200 for this.

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I bought it a lot cheaper than I thought.

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I can sell it to you today for £100.

0:24:320:24:35

How does that sound?

0:24:350:24:37

-Expensive.

-You are joking me!

0:24:370:24:40

You're not serious.

0:24:400:24:42

You're not serious! You mean you're not going to pay me...

0:24:420:24:46

You've got to pay me £100 for this.

0:24:460:24:48

I'll pay you £100, John...

0:24:480:24:50

-Right.

-..on the condition you do a little job for me.

0:24:500:24:53

I will shake your hand for £100.

0:24:530:24:54

Now, what... What am I have to do for my money?

0:24:540:24:58

Help me muck out the stables.

0:24:580:24:59

Help you muck out the stables.

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Well, you have to hand it to him,

0:25:010:25:03

John Cameron will go to any lengths to bank a profit.

0:25:030:25:06

Well, I'm glad Katherine can't see me now, but one thing I do know,

0:25:060:25:11

where there's muck, there's brass.

0:25:110:25:14

You can't fault him for effort

0:25:140:25:16

and Mr Cameron has banked

0:25:160:25:18

almost £65 worth of profit.

0:25:180:25:20

He might be willing to get his hands dirty,

0:25:200:25:23

but his rival is taking a much more ladylike approach

0:25:230:25:26

to her pursuit of profit.

0:25:260:25:28

She's arranged for a meeting to try and sell the iconic calendars that set her back almost £60 at auction.

0:25:300:25:37

I hope she likes them. Fingers crossed.

0:25:370:25:41

Oh, hello. Oh!

0:25:410:25:43

-I've brought you these, but they are so heavy.

-Let me help you.

0:25:430:25:46

The great thing about these,

0:25:490:25:50

Annabel, is that you will not see these everywhere.

0:25:500:25:53

They were issued exclusively to the Pirelli top clients

0:25:530:25:56

by the UK division of the firm.

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They're not quite the archetypal posed studio shots that you see today.

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I mean I like this gritty realism. I love that kind of, you know,

0:26:030:26:06

real close up but also a play with lighting,

0:26:060:26:09

a play with, you know,

0:26:090:26:11

the way he's treated the face and captured it.

0:26:110:26:13

So these are lovely, how much?

0:26:130:26:17

Well, I was thinking of around £160.

0:26:170:26:22

Well, I'm prepared to pay...£90?

0:26:220:26:27

Could we meet in the middle, maybe?

0:26:270:26:29

What about 110?

0:26:290:26:32

-£110. I'll do £110. Done.

-Good.

-OK.

-Deal done, excellent, Annabel.

0:26:320:26:37

Do you want to see where I'm putting them?

0:26:370:26:39

-Those would look really good in the dining room.

-Fabulous.

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£110 might not have exactly been in the middle,

0:26:470:26:50

but our very own Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is pin-up girl

0:26:500:26:53

has banked a profit of just over £50.

0:26:530:26:56

Despite her best efforts at the auction,

0:26:560:26:59

Katherine came away with just five lots.

0:26:590:27:02

Her cheapest item was the German tinplate toy bird

0:27:020:27:04

which she paid a little over £40 for.

0:27:040:27:07

What about £48?

0:27:070:27:09

-Perfect. Deal done.

-Fantastic.

0:27:090:27:10

-And we'll both be singing like birds.

-Indeed.

0:27:100:27:13

Well, it was a quick and easy sale,

0:27:130:27:15

but unfortunately for Katherine not a particularly profitable one.

0:27:150:27:20

You can't double your money every time and, anyway, you know what?

0:27:200:27:23

I think Mr Hammer's going to be struggling selling that broken cigarette box.

0:27:230:27:27

Oh, that's fighting talk from Mrs Higgins, but The Hammer

0:27:270:27:31

is a formidable foe and it seems he's also quite a jolly one.

0:27:310:27:36

# Oh, I do like to be beside the seaside

0:27:360:27:40

# Oh, I do like to be beside the sea. #

0:27:400:27:44

He might seem quite merry,

0:27:440:27:46

but our gentleman crooner is actually a little worried.

0:27:460:27:50

When he got his etching of a battleship home,

0:27:510:27:54

he had some doubts about it,

0:27:540:27:55

so he arranged to meet a local gallery owner

0:27:550:27:58

to try and find out what it was and to try and make a sale.

0:27:580:28:02

Hi, Richard.

0:28:020:28:03

In order to make a profit, he'd need to seal a deal for more than £70.

0:28:030:28:07

OK, this is the picture I told you about.

0:28:070:28:10

Now, when I saw this in the auction house, from a distance, I'm thinking

0:28:100:28:15

-my favourite Portsmouth artist, William Wylie.

-No, sadly not.

0:28:150:28:19

No, well, on closer inspection I saw the signature.

0:28:190:28:23

I looked at the catalogue description,

0:28:230:28:25

they didn't know who the artist was.

0:28:250:28:27

They catalogued it as "Charles H?"

0:28:270:28:29

-I didn't recognise the signature.

-No.

-You know, I'm hoping you do.

0:28:290:28:33

Yes, it's actually by Charles Herbert Clark,

0:28:330:28:38

a little-known etcher from...

0:28:380:28:41

Well, I think he was born in about the 1890s and this

0:28:410:28:45

etching would date from about 1920, that sort of era, 1920, 1930.

0:28:450:28:51

So he is contemporary with the end of Wylie's life, isn't he?

0:28:510:28:54

-Yes. Yeah.

-Well, on realising it wasn't Wylie,

0:28:540:28:57

I had a look at the catalogue description...

0:28:570:28:59

And it said HMS Victory, and I thought,

0:28:590:29:02

"Well, I must be able to sell that down my neck of the woods,"

0:29:020:29:05

and then I bought the painting, took it home,

0:29:050:29:07

and then the penny dropped.

0:29:070:29:09

I count two gun decks, not three.

0:29:090:29:11

-Well, easily done.

-So, would this picture interest you, Richard?

0:29:110:29:15

Um...yes, I think we could probably sell it in here.

0:29:150:29:20

Well, look, I was hoping for about £150 for it.

0:29:200:29:24

Oooh. £100, I think, would be my best offer.

0:29:240:29:31

Well, Richard, you've enlightened me.

0:29:310:29:34

I will certainly go to bed tonight wiser than I woke up.

0:29:340:29:37

I'd be happy to take your £100.

0:29:370:29:39

-Thank you very much, sir.

-You're welcome.

0:29:390:29:42

-OK.

-Well, he might have bought in haste at the auction,

0:29:420:29:45

but The Hammer's not a man to panic under fire

0:29:450:29:47

and he's still claimed a victory banking a profit

0:29:470:29:50

of almost £30 with his etching.

0:29:500:29:52

His profit pot receives another boost as he makes almost £27 from

0:29:520:29:55

his limited edition Royal Doulton plate and mug.

0:29:550:29:59

John might be sealing profitable deals on the south coast,

0:29:590:30:02

but his rival is waiting for one of her contacts at a safe house.

0:30:020:30:06

Or, as it's otherwise known, her home.

0:30:060:30:09

Her mission is to try and sell a pencil sketch which she thinks

0:30:090:30:13

could be an Epstein original.

0:30:130:30:15

If she's right, it could be worth thousands,

0:30:150:30:19

but she only paid a little over £175 for it.

0:30:190:30:23

Hang on, I'm pressing you in.

0:30:230:30:25

Well, I know you haven't seen it before, but stand there

0:30:250:30:28

and I think you're going to be completely wowed by it

0:30:280:30:31

as I turn it round and your client is going to want this.

0:30:310:30:34

-What do you think?

-Oh, yeah. No, it's lovely.

0:30:340:30:36

Who is it? Do you know who it is?

0:30:360:30:38

Well, now, this is the... This is the interesting bit.

0:30:380:30:41

When I saw it in the auction rooms,

0:30:410:30:43

kind of mixed and matched with all these other pictures...

0:30:430:30:47

-Yeah.

-..I thought, "Looks familiar."

0:30:470:30:49

And I could see when I looked really closely, if you look down here,

0:30:490:30:52

I could see a tiny signature,

0:30:520:30:54

or what I thought was the basis of a signature and it's...

0:30:540:30:57

On the reverse there's an indication

0:30:570:30:59

that it could be by the Sir Jacob Epstein.

0:30:590:31:02

Oh, right.

0:31:020:31:03

It's got this label which does kind of link it even further to Epstein.

0:31:030:31:08

It's a debate as to whether you can go by it, but it talks about it being ex collection of Mrs K Fields...

0:31:080:31:13

-Right.

-From the Petersfield Galleries in Hampshire, who was a friend of Lady Epstein,

0:31:130:31:17

-and that's what I've been working on to try and work out whether or not there was a direct association.

-Yes.

0:31:170:31:23

If there was, it makes it more likely that it might be by him.

0:31:230:31:26

Hand on heart, you know what I'm going to say,

0:31:260:31:28

I'm going to say that I don't think it is right.

0:31:280:31:31

So, in terms of price then, if it isn't an Epstein, what were

0:31:310:31:36

you thinking because obviously that changes things a little bit.

0:31:360:31:40

I think this is worth every bit of £400.

0:31:400:31:43

I'd like to buy it, but I'm thinking more sort of around the £280 mark, if it's at all possible.

0:31:430:31:51

You interior designers are such hard work!

0:31:510:31:54

So, £400 is slightly out.

0:31:540:31:57

I can slide down the slippery snake a bit and go for maybe £350.

0:31:570:32:03

The problem is, it could be anything.

0:32:030:32:05

It could be a student's work, it could be anything, but it is lovely.

0:32:050:32:09

Say £300?

0:32:090:32:12

Too low still. I want to meet on...

0:32:120:32:14

Let's meet on £320.

0:32:140:32:16

-Is that a fair bet?

-That's a good deal.

0:32:160:32:18

-Hey!

-Cheers.

-Great.

0:32:180:32:19

Thankfully you're right next to the mantelpiece

0:32:190:32:22

so get your cheque book out and write the cheque!

0:32:220:32:24

-OK.

-They don't call me demanding for nothing.

0:32:240:32:29

So, despite her best efforts

0:32:290:32:30

Katherine was unable to unearth any concrete evidence that the sketch

0:32:300:32:34

was actually an Epstein original,

0:32:340:32:37

but she still banked a fabulous profit of over £144.

0:32:370:32:41

Both experts are doing everything they can to maximise their profits from their auction lots,

0:32:410:32:46

but who's the selling superstar and who needs to raise their game?

0:32:460:32:50

Katherine has made sales totalling just under £480

0:32:520:32:56

and banked a little over £200-worth of profit.

0:32:560:32:59

Her rival, on the other hand, has sold £270-worth of goods

0:33:020:33:07

and made a profit of just over £120.

0:33:070:33:10

So, today's contest could still go either way.

0:33:130:33:16

In Portsmouth, John's got the perfect buyer for his cigarette box,

0:33:160:33:20

but he knows that any hope of a huge profit has already gone up in smoke.

0:33:200:33:25

Confession time.

0:33:290:33:30

When I bought this Edwardian pottery cigarette box at auction, I was pretty sure I'd turn a profit

0:33:300:33:36

with one of my specialist collector, even though the corner was damaged.

0:33:360:33:39

Well, that was before some poor packaging on my part resulted in me damaging the other corner,

0:33:390:33:45

and whilst I glued the piece back on,

0:33:450:33:47

I'm pretty sure this collector will seize upon the opportunity to beat me up on price,

0:33:470:33:51

so if I get out of this with any sort of profit, I'll be breathing a sigh of relief.

0:33:510:33:56

Remember, he bought the box for just over £35.

0:33:560:34:00

-Hi, Martin.

-John! How are you doing, mate?

-All good. I brought the box I told you about.

0:34:000:34:05

Brilliant. Come on in. See what we can do, mate.

0:34:050:34:07

Martin, every time I see the collection it looks better,

0:34:070:34:11

which is why when I saw this, I knew it would sit pretty amongst your collection.

0:34:110:34:15

-Have a look at that.

-Rightio.

-Turn of the century.

0:34:150:34:19

Yeah, about 1890, 1910.

0:34:190:34:22

-Original label is interesting.

-It is very interesting.

0:34:220:34:25

Not as interesting as the damage.

0:34:250:34:27

Were you going to mention that?

0:34:270:34:29

Well, I thought you might spot the damage, Martin,

0:34:290:34:31

but, yeah, I know it's had a chip on the corner.

0:34:310:34:34

-I bought it like that...

-And the other corner?

0:34:340:34:37

I did break that bit, but I've got the pieces there and it's glued back on.

0:34:370:34:40

Hasn't damaged the overall image. It's still a nice box.

0:34:400:34:44

I do tend to buy mint, so I think you'll have to allow for your chips.

0:34:440:34:48

I thought you were going to start all this, Martin, and I thought we were friends, you know?

0:34:480:34:53

We are, but when it comes to money...

0:34:530:34:55

It's not personal, right?

0:34:550:34:57

-It's not. Go on.

-OK. So, look, what do you see that valued at?

0:34:570:35:01

To me, about 30 quid.

0:35:010:35:03

I was hoping for 50, Martin, and I think it's worth that.

0:35:030:35:06

A bit... A bit over the top, John, on that.

0:35:060:35:09

-What can we do?

-35?

-35, you do know how to strike below the belt, Martin, I give you that, yeah?

0:35:090:35:15

£45.

0:35:150:35:17

45 is top dollar, John.

0:35:170:35:19

£45 and it's yours and you haven't got one,

0:35:190:35:21

and you can put that straight on a shelf, Martin,

0:35:210:35:24

amongst all this other monochrome printed advertising pottery.

0:35:240:35:28

You got the gift of the gab, mate.

0:35:280:35:29

-£45.

-Thank you, Martin!

-Cheers.

-Cheers.

0:35:290:35:31

Well, it's not big bucks, but that's almost £10 for his kitty.

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There's better news on the yacht print though, which secured John over £72 of profit.

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Mr Cameron's rival is on her way to the south coast to try and seal a deal for her portrait of a girl.

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Since she got the portrait home, Katherine's been doing her research

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and has decided that it's not a real Gerald Kelly,

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but she's still hoping to bank a profit by selling it to a familiar face.

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I must say, I'm a bit excited about going into this house because it's the home of Wayne Hemingway,

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one of Britain's greatest designers and do you know what?

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I grew up with his shoes on my feet.

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-Hiya.

-Mr Hemingway, I'm delighted to meet you.

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-How are you?

-Very well.

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-That's a grand looking lass...

-She's a great...

-..on that print.

-She's a great girl.

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-Can she come in?

-She can.

-Excellent.

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-Wow! That...

-..is a giant Tretchikoff!

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..is certainly the largest Tretchikoff I've ever seen.

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Attractive women there, attractively lady here.

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-Look at that.

-Oh, there she is.

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-Is it you?

-It's not me.

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When I bought her I was interested in the Kelly link,

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that's the sort of signature at the base here,

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but I explored it thinking there may be an association with Sir Gerald Kelly, who was,

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you know, the famous Royal favourite or portraitist at that point when this was probably painted.

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So why would that go on if it wasn't him?

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It's the mystery.

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It might have got... There could well have been followers of him.

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I mean, he was very prolific at that point with his own work,

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there's a hope that it might be by him, but I don't think it is

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and I've had various colleagues that have looked at it,

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who are Kelly specialists, and they feel that it isn't quite...

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quite right, but they might be wrong.

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If I saw this in, you know, just lying around, I'd want to buy it

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because I haven't got it and it fits in with so much that I have...

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that I have got that, you know, that...

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I'd just have to have it as a collector.

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I'll offer you £301 for it.

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What does that...? That's just over the £300.

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That's pretty good. Can I up you a little bit, to say £320?

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Well, how about roughly splitting the difference and we'll call it at £310.50?

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-£310.50.

-Yeah.

-A bargain.

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-I've got a 50p upstairs.

-A deal.

-Do it.

-Deal done.

-OK.

-Perfect.

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Well, it might not have been a genuine Gerald Kelly,

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but Katherine still banked a healthy £76-worth of profit.

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Today's contest could still go either way.

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John's most expensive purchase at the auction was a glass vase

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which he and Katherine went head-to-head on.

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It promised to be a battle of epic proportions,

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but at the crunch, Katherine graciously withdrew from the contest.

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Including commission, the vase cost John just over £160,

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so the big question is, how much profit is left in it?

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It's Daum, one of the best French 19th-century manufacturers. I know it's 20th century, but look,

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it's handmade, it's a classic inverted bell shape,

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and those blue and clear air bubble inclusions, I think, are fantastic.

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It will dazzle in your collection, Ian. Have another look.

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It's handmade. Look at those air bubble inclusions.

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John, I want to see cameo and carving.

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You don't see those pieces in the saleroom - they're becoming rare.

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We have to look for later pieces. Look again.

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Well, he's working hard and if John's going to win today's competition,

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he needs to squeeze every possible penny of profit from the vase.

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His rival is also working hard to emerge victorious from today's contest

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and is hoping to seal a deal for the ladies' walnut dressing table set

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that cost her almost £200 at the auction.

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-Ah, Robert.

-Hello, there, how are you?

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-Katherine.

-You've brought the box.

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I thought you'd like to see it.

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-Shall we go this way and we'll have a good look at it?

-Perfect. Ideal.

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It's not an ordinary box, it's got a special secret inside

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and I'm sure you probably know what it is, actually.

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I mean, obviously it's a typical dressing box or toilet box,

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but it's got a hidden extra.

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Yes, yes, I can see it just there.

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You've got the secret drawer.

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Obviously the lady's jewellery would go into there.

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You know, it really is, for its age, in super, super condition.

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What kind of money are you looking for it?

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I think I'd be looking at around about £420, £400, that sort of figure.

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We're not that wealthy in Lincolnshire.

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That's not what Katherine wanted to hear.

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Both our experts are working hard to make the profit to win today's auction battle.

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We'll find out shortly if John's Daum vase

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or Katherine's ladies' dressing set prove to be the decisive deal

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because it's now time to tot up the totals and find out how much they've made.

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Both our experts were allowed to spend

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up to £1,000 of their own money at today's auction.

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Katherine spent just under £710,

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her rival on the other hand parted with just over £436.

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All the profits they make will be going to charity,

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so without further delay,

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it's time to reveal who is today's Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is champion.

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Katherine, how are you?

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-It's lovely to see you, John, as always.

-Likewise.

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-So, how did you get on from your auction challenge?

-I love auctions.

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That was where I was born and brought up really and I just felt very comfortable there.

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And I thought, "What better place than to bid you up on a lovely vase?"

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-Thanks for that(!)

-It was rather nice.

-I would have liked to have bought it a bit cheaper.

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But how about you with your Pirelli calendars?

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Those were absolutely, astonishingly beautiful.

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I sold them to someone who's equally beautiful and she loved them.

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-She?

-Yeah, bought by a girl! Can you believe that?

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Well, I never. Well, enough polite chit-chat, I want to know how much profit you got in your case.

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-I'm hoping a lot. Let's count it down. OK.

-Three, two, one.

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-Oh!

-Whoa!

-You slaughtered me!

-Almost double!

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-Well, I'm shocked.

-Almost.

-I feel completely humbled, Katherine.

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I think you were a very good rival on that day.

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And you are a worthy adversary.

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Right, let's go and make some more money.

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I don't know if I'm up to this now!

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Despite his best efforts,

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John only managed to bag a little over £35 for his Daum vase.

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£200, a nice even figure.

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-Go on, John.

-Top man. Thank you very much, Ian.

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Katherine, though, cashed in on her walnut ladies' dressing set

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banking over £125 of profit.

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What about towards £350?

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I tell you what, I'll meet you halfway, £325, how about that?

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That sounds like a great deal to me.

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Well, I'm completely gutted. Katherine wiped the floor with me at the auction.

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I'm delighted. Everything did really well that I bought and, yeah,

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I nearly doubled my money on everything.

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John, well, you know, he just didn't have my eye, really.

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He just isn't Katherine The Great!

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It's a victory for Katherine, but both our experts worked round the clock to sell their items

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and every penny of their profit will be going to their chosen charities.

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The charity I've chosen to give my money to is the Emasi Children's Project,

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which is an orphanage in Cape Town in South Africa.

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My charity is the Cystic Fibrosis Trust.

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John may have tasted defeat today, but tomorrow he'll have the chance to get his revenge

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when our duelling dealers go head to head at a Parisian antiques market.

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I see no ships, but I do potentially see a profit.

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OK, she says in London that I'm going to be able to sell this for... 500 euros.

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She'll have a tough ride because I'm coming up the outside rail and I'm not going to fall at the last fence.

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