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which this week is presented by the robot-obsessed singer Ana Matronic.

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We hear a lot about how robots might affect the future of our economy,

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but they are already making a big impact on art and culture.

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I'm Ana Matronic, lead singer of the Scissors Sisters,

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In my edition of Artsnight, I want to explore our enduring fascination

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with robots across pop culture, from music to art, fiction to film.

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Right now, there's never been a more exciting time for robots.

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They're becoming skilled at playing complex music

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and are now adept at drawing, while one artist has even become part

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With advancing technology, it seems machines are now getting

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in on the act and pushing the boundaries of creativity.

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Are we on the verge of an artistic robot takeover?

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HARRY ROBOT: The future belongs to me!

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I've been obsessed by robots ever since I first clapped eyes

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on them in the movie theatre when I was not even three-years-old.

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I love reading about them, I love thinking about them,

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I love writing about them and, man, do I want one...

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The first film I saw that sealed my love for robots was, of

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Nearly 40 years on, the long awaited seventh episode, The Force Awakens,

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is about to open in cinemas. It heralds the arrival of a brand new

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But also the return of, officially, the most beloved

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robot in movie history, R2-D2.

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Resembling an industrial vacuum cleaner,

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R2-D2 is a curiously endearing robot and one half of a comedy double act

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C-3PO: Where do you think you're going?

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R2: Bleep.

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C-3PO: Well, I'm not going that way.

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R2: Bleep bleep.

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A plucky determined character, he regularly saves the day, and

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When you think of famous robots and the best there is,

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I think he's the first robot with a human element to him,

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He's a little robot with lots of tricks up his sleeve.

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He's kind of a cheekie chappie, but also an unsung hero

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I think he's kind of a little bit angry.

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He wanted to do what he wanted to do,

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and if the other one didn't agree, it went off on its own anyway.

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Today, R2 is an icon the world over, appearing in video games

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The now familiar shape of R2 was originally conceived by artist

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Ralph McQaurrie and brought to life in part for the big screen by

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a 3 foot 8 inch actor called Kenny Baker, operating inside a model.

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Behind the scenes footage from the first film reveals how

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the British special effects team built radio controlled versions

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In the Force Awakens, the challenge of building

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and maintaining R2 on set fell to two ordinary Star Wars fans.

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This is the actual R2 from the new movie built by

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the duo, amidst extreme secrecy for the biggest film release in years.

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Amazingly, they were recruited from a special Star Wars fan club.

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So the R2 Builders Club is a worldwide community where people

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can download plans, buy parts and build an R2.

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It took me five years in total to build my R2 and I was

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sort of single at the time, so I didn't have any girlfriends or wives

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In 2013, there was a Star Wars celebration in Essen, Germany, so in

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a moment of feeling very brave, I approached Katherine Kennedy, head

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of Lucasfilm, and made a comment about if they were making any films

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in the UK, and if they needed any droids, get in touch.

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And then, from a very cheeky comment, I was called several months

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later by Lucasfilms asking if I was available to work on the new film.

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It was incredible, a once in a lifetime opportunity.

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I really couldn't celebrate that much as I had to keep it so quiet.

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My wife knew, which was fair enough, but I've got two boys, two teenage

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sons, but I decided to keep it quiet from them because of school chatter.

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So I had to lie to them and make up a job I was doing!

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Then the first photo broke, which JJ tweeted from the workshop.

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That was the moment I told the children.

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The first day we got there, I was in absolute awe

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of all the talent and I felt like a very small fish in a big ocean.

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During their year working on the film, Oliver

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and Lee built four types of R2, with different capabilities, and were

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responsible for remote controlling R2's every move and action on set.

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This is what we class as the indoor version.

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It's got a lower profile to make him look a bit like he's floating.

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So it can spin on the spot, the dome can turn independently and because

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of the drive structure we can literally put a mark there and he'll

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One of the biggest concerns is it's going to fail or there's going to be

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a problem and there's that constant worry that they will call action

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But, luckily, it never happened, R2 worked flawlessly

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and it couldn't, he couldn't, have been any better at all.

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I think he's just timeless really, considering he was invented in '76,

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And, you look at it now, I think he's stood the test

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Hopefully, he's got a few more years ahead of him, I think.

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Not only do we have world famous droid movie stars, robots today

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We think of the arts - from literature to music or painting

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- as innately human and what sets us apart from

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But in the modern age, robots are increasingly flexing

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their artistic muscles, working together with musicians and

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artists to create some surprising and mind blowing new works.

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I've come to the London Fine Art Studios for

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So you really have to imagine you're in a life drawing class.

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So you are going to look in front of you.

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So I think this is my best side. Patrick

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Tresset is a London-based French artist who's created five artist

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robots and today I'm to be their muse!

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It's hard for me not to grin ear to ear

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because I'm squeeing so hard inside with excitement because I'm being

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This looks a the me, looks at its paper and looks up. It gives it a

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sort of life to it. I can never tell whether

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its going to draw an interesting Sometimes a good surprise and

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sometimes less good. This looks quite nice. They have the same

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programme? They're all drawing

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from different angles and all have got exactly the same software, but

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I've just changed something in the nervousness of the arm and something

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just after the camera and that I tried to be a painter

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for almost 13 years. After 13 years, I kind

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of lost my passion for painting. Everything that I did didn't

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look right or didn't feel right. Then I kind of remembered that I

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loved programming when I was a kid and so I started to

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use computers to do what I didn't After 40 minutes,

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the robot artists sign their work This one is childish. He seemed

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confused. He was looking up-and-down at me a lot. Oh, I almost figured as

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though it would be almost like a printer. Like an ink jet pringer

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that would go line byline byline and what I associate with computers. So

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that is not the case, obviously. Oh, that's one's great though. This one

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is quite good. That one you can actually tell is me. Definitely.

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Probably because I'm a narcissist. I like the one that looks the most

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like me! So, Patrick, do I get to leave

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with one of these today? I mean,

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they are part of a bigger artwork so they are all kept, but what I do

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is that I scan them and send them. It's not just in the world

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of fine art that robots are flexing their creative muscles,

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it's happening in music too. One of my favourite artists,

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Tom Jenkinson - better known as Squarepusher -

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has been at the cutting edge Recently, he composed an album

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specially for a robot band, created I've come to meet Tom in his Essex

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studio to find out more How your interest in this project

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came about? I was approached by some Japanese robotists and they wanted

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me to make a piece of music for their robot band to play. I couldn't

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pass up that opportunity. It's not the sort of thing that happens every

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day. I just had to see what that would be like. The Z machine

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machines have a 22 armed drummer, a guitarist with 78 fingers and a

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keyboardist that plays notes by shooting green lasers from its eyes.

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Sad robot goes funny was the fist piece you composed for Z Machines.

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You are composing for a 78-fingered guitarist. What it means is that you

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could, for example, make chords that have a larger span than a normal

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human hand could achieve. Also, the speed at which the notes can be

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played, I mean, you can play over 100 notes a second. That is pretty

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quick. I'm sure there are guitarists out there who would claim they can

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do it. It can do it and do it consistently and doesn't get tired

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it. Keeps going. It generates a particular kind sound that isn't

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possible with human hands. I would imagine that composing for robots

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you had a very specific place that you would want to go musically. I

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wonder whethered we could make robots perform music that would be

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for a listener emotionally involving.

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I personally find it at points quite convincing actually.

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I also encountered a sense of disappointment amongst some

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people that when you tell them it's a robot playing.

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It's like, oh wow, I thought it was an incredible

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guitar player, this unbelievable, this super human technique

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and then when you tell them it's a robot, then they actually become,

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I always think that music and performing live is such

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a human endeavour and so much to me lies in the idea of communication.

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And it seems to me that even if we bring robots in, we'll still need

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Yeah, but what's interesting, I think,

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is that we're already augmenting our human performance with machinery.

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I mean, if you come to one of my shows, for better or

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I mean I'm playing a guitar, but it's not a guitar as you know it.

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It's going through any number of different processes.

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But there's other elements where there is no touch of human hand

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And the fascinating thing I think is,

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that I can be on the stage and yet everything that people are hearing

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is generating by machines, the performance is done by the machine.

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I'm just kind of babysitting the machines, and that's

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And yet we can't let go of the human, because

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if you took that supervisor away, no matter how superficial their job

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If you take that away, suddenly it's not music performance anymore.

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I look forward to hearing more from you and possibly some more

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I would like some robot back up dancers, that's what I would like.

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As robots get more sophisticated, one way forward is

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for us humans to enhance our own abilities through technology.

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I've been worshipping at the altar of all things bionic,

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But inking your shoulder with computer circuitry is one thing,

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actually becoming part machine quite another.

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That's exactly what British born artist Neil Harbisson has done,

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Neil Harbisson is officially the world's first cyborg artist

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having had a technological device surgically implanted into his skull.

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It's allowing him to create some unusual new art works.

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I want to ask Neil about his decision to become a cyborg -

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and it seems only fitting that we'll be using technology to communicate.

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You are the first cyborg I am ever meeting so I am totally jazzed.

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So Neil, tell me how this came about?

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Well, I was born with an unusual visual condition called

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acromatism, which is total colour blindness, so I see things

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But I wanted to have a sense of colour.

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So the only way of creating a new sense

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So what I have now is this antenna implanted in my skull that allows

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Exactly how does that work, how does it transmit the sound?

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So the tip of the antenna has a light detector that detects the

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And it transmits into a chip inside my skull that vibrates

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So this vibration in my bone becomes a sound in my inner ear,

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How has that changed your perception or your life?

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At the beginning I had strong headaches

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and I was really exhausted because I could hear colour everywhere.

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So I was in a music composition constantly

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But after five months it all became very, very normal.

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When I actually felt cyborg was when I stopped feeling the difference

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And this happened when I started to dream in colours.

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And how has the antenna influenced and shaped your

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Well, the antenna now allows me to, to express myself

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from a new sense basically, which is the sonochromatic sense:

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the sound of colour and the colour of sound.

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Instead of playing an instrument, I can now play colours.

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I can give colour concerts where instead of a piano I can just have

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different coloured objects in front of me and then I amplify

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And then I can create melodies with different coloured objects.

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I can also do this with people's faces to create face concerts.

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I started doing this in 2005 when Prince Charles came to

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the university and he asked me, what is this?

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And I explained this is an antenna to hear colours, and then I asked

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That was the first sound portrait I did.

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So I guess the next question is, not how do I

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So your hair sounds F, a very high pitched F, and then

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your lips sound F too, but it's a different scale of F, it's a low F.

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If you could get close so I can hear the sound of your eyes.

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It's a microtone between C and B

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That's a chord, a unique musical chord.

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Yes, so hearing colours has the secondary effect that when I

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hear music or I hear sounds I can also paint this on a canvas.

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And you have some paintings behind you.

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Yes, there are several, this is New York New York.

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From the first note to the last, so "start spreading

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So it's note by note from the centre to the end.

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So now I can listen to different artists.

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For example, Andy Warhol sounds very loud.

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Whereas Velasquez sounds very disturbing, sounds a bit

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You should score a horror movie with paintings.

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I''d be fantastic. And are you a Wi-Fi enabled hotspot?

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I see it as a communication tool, as a sense.

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And I think this is the next stage of internet that we

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I hope you become a cyborg soon as well!

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Cyborgs have long been represented in science fiction, as has

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The question is, just how close are we to realising the kind

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of sophisticated and clever mechanical people we've

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Scientist and broadcaster Adam Rutherford, who worked

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as an advisor on this year's AI hit film Ex Machina, is off to sort

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In 2015, we saw a slew of blockbuster films and TV series

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These portray lifelike machines with human-level consciousness

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Now, this set of films are not like science fiction of the past

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which were set in some distant future or a galaxy far, far away.

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They present a vision of a future that's just

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Chappie is a subversive romp of a film in

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which a droid is reprogrammed to think and feel for itself.

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Meanwhile in the dark and thought-provoking film from Alex

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Garland, Ex Machina, we encounter the beautiful humanoid robot Ava.

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A young coder sent to test Ava's human level intelligence

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and consciousness is soon firmly in her thrall.

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And in the recent hit TV series Humans, we are sold a vision

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of robots that can be picked up as easily as your weekend shop

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But some of these synths exhibit human like feelings and it's not

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long before the real humans are forming deep relationships with

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Hello Joe, I'm now securely bonded to you as my primary user.

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So what's the truth behind the fiction?

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Are we really that close to seeing human-like robots

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I've come to visit a house in the Hertfordshire suburbs that is

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Now admittedly, care-obot here doesn't

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look quite as one might expect from the Hollywood movies.

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But it's typical of where current technology is

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at when it comes to robots designed to help around the home.

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And thanks to a team at the University of Hertfordshire,

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it's currently on a crash course in social interaction with humans!

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Professor of Artificial Intelligence Kerstin Dautenhahn is in charge

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Kerstin, so we're in this suburban house, but it's got robots in it.

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When we started we did human robot interaction studies

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You see when they come in, and it look like a normal house from

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better. We equipped it with robots, lots of sensors, and lots of

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technology, but it's still more similar to a normal home that you

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We see a lot of robots in films, with artificial

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How do they affect people's expectations about what real world

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robots are actually like and what they are capable of?

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Science fiction movies have a huge impact.

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So for example, people think that robots, of course,

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can not only think, not only have the AI as human beings

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too, but they can also do lots of physical tasks very, very easily.

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It should not be difficult for a robot to load and unload the

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dishwasher or fold clothing, but teaching this to robot is a very,

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very hard. As well as carrying out studies with

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Care-o-bot - to assist elderly people

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in the home - Kerstin's team has built a humanoid robot called Kaspar

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to help children with autism. It would be disingenuous

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of me not to point out he's pretty A lot of adults who see him

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for the first time give exactly that Kaspar doesn't have

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a complex real human face. It's simplified in a way

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so that children with autism can Kaspar has several

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autonomous behaviours. They are, for example,

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triggered by touch senses. So let me just try to tickle

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its feet. So these are all little,

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simple games, but for a child with autism, these simple games help them

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understand the basic principles. Because in the real world,

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it's so complex that it's difficult for them to concentrate

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on the fundamental things that are important, but they can do it when

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they interact with such a robot. So how long is it going to be

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before we see multi-tasking And how long is it going to be

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before we see, you know, proper androids,

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the kind that we see in the movies? It is still a big challenge but I

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would expect in five to ten years time to see these systems in

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people's homes - maybe not of the complexity of the ones you see in

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science fiction, but in the sense of a system that can do a variety of

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tasks very well in order to help. When it comes to the science-fiction

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robots, the androids, from a technological point of view, we are

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talking about hundreds of years will stop.

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And I think we are certainly talking about hundreds

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of years to see these wonderful, versatile, human-like robots that

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are shown in the movies and that are almost undistinguishable

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That's all from me and my new best friend here.

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Well, the fourth named storm of the season

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is bearing down upon us overnight and into tomorrow,

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