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to describe her work as "situation tragedy". | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
I started writing for radio. And that was about 15 years ago. And | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
then I wrote for magazines, newspapers. And 11 years ago for | :00:19. | :00:24. | |
television. It was a question of sending a script in, announcing my | :00:25. | :00:31. | |
genius and thinking nobody would take any notice, and then having to | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
try to prove something. Carla Lane was a housewife from Liverpool who | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
became one of the country's most successful sitcom writers. From flat | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
sharing singletons to board housewives and formidable mothers, | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
she redefined the role of women on television. And for 25 years she was | :00:49. | :00:56. | |
at the forefront of British comedy. Well go on, Adam, help it. It was | :00:57. | :01:04. | |
unusual to have to work with somebody who was so extremely | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
successful, and part of that period of writing when most of the writers | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
that were that successful at that point were meant. The conviction | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
with which she wrote her characters was, I think, about what was in | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
hair. Everything that was in her, everything that she wanted to say, | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
all the things that she felt about being a woman was in her writing. | :01:27. | :01:32. | |
Inside she had a lot of turmoil, she had a lot of sadness, she had quite | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
a bit of sadness in her life. And that's what she drew on when she | :01:38. | :01:38. | |
wrote. Carla Lane became famous in the | :01:39. | :01:53. | |
early 70s with the Liver Birds. A comedy about two young women sharing | :01:54. | :02:01. | |
a flat in her hometown of Liverpool. Carla's was a fresh voice in the | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
male dominated world of television. Putting female characters at the | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
centre of comedy for the first time. Are you ready? Yes. Right. Get a | :02:11. | :02:23. | |
load of this. The wedding ensemble. The Liver Birds ran for more than | :02:24. | :02:26. | |
ten years and launched the careers of some of the country's best young | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
actresses. I think what made Carla quite special was that she wrote | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
from in her heart. She actually spoke to you through her characters. | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
What was great about it was that we were the first two girls to play the | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
leading part. Women up to then had been wise and lovers and friends, | :02:49. | :02:55. | |
but never to girls actually talking to each other and being the stars of | :02:56. | :03:04. | |
the show. It was a one-off, really. People often talk about the Liver | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
Birds as though they were two, it was a huge feminist series. We | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
didn't feel that at the time. And I still don't. I think it was just | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
simply of its time. Did you fix the food, Beryl? What food? I did all | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
the packing, I arranged the removal van, and doing all the young packing | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
now, I've got 1001 things to think of, gas, electricity, heating, all | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
you had to do was prepare a snack. We were not burdened down by | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
political correctness. We did not have to watch every single thing | :03:42. | :03:47. | |
that we said. Now we had guidelines. I remember there being lots of | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
discussion as to whether we could mention the subject of possibly | :03:51. | :04:01. | |
going to... With a man. And I remember it being firmly decided | :04:02. | :04:03. | |
that you couldn't talk about possibly going to... With a man, not | :04:04. | :04:11. | |
at all. It could be implied. And of course Carla was very good at | :04:12. | :04:17. | |
getting the fun out of that. So she was bound in, possibly, in many | :04:18. | :04:20. | |
ways, but she liked that. She liked the kind of playfulness between men | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
and women. And do you know what? She was a married woman, she had growing | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
up children, perhaps she was writing her girl that, the one she never | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
lived, I don't know. Carla married Eric Collins, a naval architect, | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
when she was 19. They had two sons, Nigel and Powell. But theirs would | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
not be a conventional family life. From the beginning it was pretty | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
observable, at least to me as a young man, ma'am, you know, I'd | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
always dread her picking me up from school because she just didn't look | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
like anybody else. I really wanted a mum wearing a Mac and a headscarf. | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
With rollers in, you know. But she'd arrived with stilettos and a tight | :05:05. | :05:16. | |
skirt and her hair done up in a bun with a Spanish co-or something, and | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
be waving to me as I would be coming out of school. And all the other | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
mums would be there. I just thought, why have I got a mum like that? And | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
of course I'd get the Mickey taken out of me by all my school friends | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
about my mum, and the things that they'd say about her, and I hated | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
it. But I realise that there was something different right from the | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
beginning. She would write poetry. She often would recite the things | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
that she had in her mind over the kitchen table while we were having a | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
cup of tea, piece of cake, and she'd ask me what I thought about it. I | :05:57. | :06:03. | |
won competition. I remember we had the Lady Mayoress coming to the | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
school, and everybody had to contribute something, and I locked | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
myself in the cloakroom and wrote a little poem. And it was really | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
tragic. It was called do not despair. And it was really to my | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
grandmother, whose son had been killed. And I pinned it in the | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
corner of the board, only because I knew I'd get into trouble if I | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
hadn't put something in. I couldn't believe it, I won the half crown. I | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
think it was then that I felt maybe I was going to write. I'd be about | :06:33. | :06:42. | |
13. She of course had poetry in her intrinsically, that was just what | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
she had in her. She would be watching all the time for the rhythm | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
of lines. Something I myself am quite passionate about, the poetic | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
rhythm of things. And I will know myself, so I know that she was | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
watching for a line that had too many words in it, or a line that | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
didn't have enough, quite. And she would know that that would be the | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
process to get that line absolutely right so that you'd get a laugh, or | :07:12. | :07:16. | |
that it would be the right feed for another line. He asked me if I was | :07:17. | :07:22. | |
getting enough sleep, I said I didn't know, I hadn't been able to | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
keep awake long enough to find out. Then he asked me how my love life | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
was going. What did you say? I said it wasn't going, it had gone. What | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
did the doctors say to that with blue he ranted on about romance | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
being exciting little parcels of life and sometimes when we open then | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
we have to be prepared for disappointment. He's quite right, | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
there, Beryl. Well all my little parcels get clobbered in the post. | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
She had a knife of the whole thing. Of course as it grew that bit was | :07:53. | :07:59. | |
her world, she was creating that world -- she had and I for the whole | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
thing. # As soft and gentle as a side. By | :08:06. | :08:12. | |
the late 70s Carla was spending most of her time away from her family in | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
Liverpool, writing at BBC Television Centre to produce her most timeless | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
work. Butterflies drew from her own experience. It told the story of | :08:22. | :08:27. | |
Ria, disenchanted middle-aged housewife dreaming of a different | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
life. The time I did Butterflies Carla was kind of at the height of | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
her powers, really. She was the toast of the BBC, they wanted to | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
keep hold of her because she was hugely successful. She was aware of | :08:42. | :08:51. | |
her success. And she was aware of, I think, how attractive she was. She | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
was a very, very attractive woman. She didn't flaunt it but you could | :08:57. | :09:03. | |
see her poise and how she behaved. I visualise her wafting about. | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
Throwing her head back and bit. She was very charming. Personality was | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
very attractive and she was physically a very attractive woman. | :09:16. | :09:22. | |
Of all the things I've written Ria is more me than anyone, she does | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
have two children, she does hate the kitchen, she did fall in love with | :09:28. | :09:30. | |
someone else, it's true. And obviously we all do that at some | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
time or other. Being married doesn't stop us from being flirted with. And | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
this is how it began. I thought that I'd write about the lady who was | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
flirted with. And it was all going to stem from there. It wasn't going | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
to be a serious as it turned out to be because she did very much fallen | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
in love with him and he certainly fell in love with her. I thought I'd | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
write a comedy about how an attractive woman copes with these | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
little offers that come when in fact she is married. I'll always remember | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
today. You won't have to remember it, we'll do it all over again on my | :10:09. | :10:14. | |
birthday. Funny isn't it, how old-fashioned we are? I watched the | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
boys being free, doing everything, breaking all the rules, stuffing | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
themselves with life. Sleeping here, sleeping there, no hang-ups, no | :10:27. | :10:34. | |
guilt. We were born too early, you and I. Not me. If I had my way we'd | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
go straight back to that hotel. Come back to the hotel. I remember at the | :10:41. | :10:49. | |
read-through before we started rehearsing, halfway through, Wendy | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
Craig said suddenly, she said, I think this woman is appalling, I | :10:55. | :10:59. | |
don't know how I can play her, she spoilt, privileged, she's got a | :11:00. | :11:04. | |
reasonable husband, wonderful standard of living, and all she does | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
is whinge about what else there could be. So Carla explained that | :11:08. | :11:14. | |
she thought it would work. Of course as soon as the first episode was | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
played in front of an audience, Wendy knew that her doubts were | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
absolutely of no concern and Carla was right. Ria was 95% Carla. So | :11:24. | :11:36. | |
Wendy's realisation of the character was joy to Carla, I think. She could | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
think, I'm getting those laughs, not only as a writer, but as me. They | :11:42. | :11:50. | |
were great friends. Ria! I made less noise than that when I was in | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
labour! Would you explain this to me? What. This, this stuff on my | :11:55. | :12:05. | |
plate. It's your dinner. I know it's my dinner but could you identify the | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
various heaps. Those are potatoes and that's a chop. I forget what | :12:09. | :12:16. | |
those green things are. She appeared to comply with the norms of young | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
married life, it didn't last very long, though. She couldn't cook, she | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
couldn't clean, she could undo the garden, they were not her thing. She | :12:27. | :12:32. | |
looked after my dad. She listened to him and talked, and she did | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
everything else. But domestic issues, they weren't on the cards | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
for her. She very quickly realised that that just wasn't the way | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
forward for her. She went on another track. I think she identified very, | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
very much with the feminine side of society, and the world, as she saw | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
it. And underneath that was a very, very strong woman. But she didn't | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
think that you had to appear to be strong, to be strong, or to appear | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
to be an intellectual to have a good mind. And I think that was also part | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
of what was happening at the time in the 70s. We were understanding as | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
where we've got to now is that you can wear very high stiletto heels | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
and actually still be quite powerful. What do you want? Tell me | :13:24. | :13:31. | |
and I'll get it for you. I want... I want exciting, mind staring, | :13:32. | :13:39. | |
unpredictable things. I want a fire engine to rush through the flat. I | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
want a helicopter to land on my bed. I wonder phone to ring and got to be | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
on the other end. I was now alone, I was divorced, and apart from my | :13:50. | :13:54. | |
wolfhound, my sons were grown, and I was alone. Hence we had Solo. Solo | :13:55. | :14:05. | |
was about Gemma who just wanted to try to be alone and how difficult it | :14:06. | :14:08. | |
is because even though you are surrounded by all the things you | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
want, there comes a moment when you think, I've got the band, where's | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
the music? That's all I was writing about. Everything I was writing | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
about can be said in a sentence. And that's all that was about. Her quote | :14:24. | :14:31. | |
about Solo and Gemma, I've got the band but where's the music? That is | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
a cry for women down the ages, it is. And it's a lot to do with fairy | :14:36. | :14:42. | |
prince, I'm a princess, and suddenly real life kicks in. She wrote about | :14:43. | :14:50. | |
these things that were serious, and apparently quite light. But | :14:51. | :14:56. | |
underneath was a layer of pain and understanding. Is that all you think | :14:57. | :15:04. | |
about, climbing the mountain, hitting the sky, are we going into | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
the Olympics or something? Isn't that what women want, to be wanted? | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
That's how it comes over. Well yes, but one once other things, too. You | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
mean love? I asked you to marry me. Money? I asked you to stop working. | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
Loyalty? There is no one else. So what the hell more? Well, a woman | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
needs... Magic. Playing those parts was important to | :15:29. | :15:38. | |
me and I still remember it is not just as a comedy series but | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
something that was very real and reflected in a comic way, what a lot | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
of women were going through. Especially during that period when | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
it wasn't an unspoken love so much, we were still in a time when you | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
were supposed to get married and have children. I think what comes | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
across, especially that period, is not a strident feminist voice, but | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
somebody who really loves people, loves swimming, understands women, | :16:07. | :16:14. | |
understands pain and life, and her view of things was much more that | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
everything is bound together, and that if you are mistress or someone | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
wanting to go solo, you were still the same. We are still women going | :16:24. | :16:31. | |
through... You know, if you are wife or are mistress, you are still going | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
through the same stuff. She wanted to share what she felt and bring | :16:36. | :16:41. | |
everyone together. There is probably no greater way of doing that than | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
getting people to laugh. With The Liver Birds, Butterflies and Solo, | :16:48. | :16:56. | |
her reputation as a writer was sealed. Her response was to write | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
The Last Song, the story of a man involved in a disintegrating | :17:04. | :17:11. | |
marriage. Carla is essentially thought of as a writer about women, | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
which she did brilliantly, but my own experience, I thought she wrote | :17:19. | :17:26. | |
my character also very brilliantly, and I suppose, dare I say, I think | :17:27. | :17:34. | |
she wrote The Last Song for me, so she had moved considerably to write | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
for a man very perceptively. It was a kind of gritty, very funny but | :17:40. | :17:48. | |
very bitter and true relationship, as Carla thought she had progressed | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
I think, and she called a situation tragedy. She had just discarded the | :17:55. | :18:02. | |
broad comedy of Butterflies with the gooey puddings, and I think was a | :18:03. | :18:11. | |
superior writer. Did you... Did you want the house | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
keys? How many times have we been over this business of the house | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
keys, you give them to me, I give them back to you. Well, do you? | :18:21. | :18:29. | |
Thank you. Asks Jane to come and see me tomorrow, I don't want to be | :18:30. | :18:35. | |
disturbed tonight. I understand, yes. And perhaps you would ring in | :18:36. | :18:41. | |
future, just to make sure I'm in. Of course. I may go away somewhere, | :18:42. | :18:53. | |
abroad. Not that it concerns you, but I thought I would tell you. Have | :18:54. | :18:56. | |
a nice time. I think Carla, like a lot who work | :18:57. | :19:12. | |
in comedy, are rather upset that they think it is a lesser field, | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
people who try to get laughs, it is not high tragedy, it is not Hamlet. | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
One of the most difficult things to do on God 's earth that I have ever | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
done this play a situation comedy where you know the writer, the | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
director, you and the rest of the cast expect you to get a laugh on | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
this line, which you do once in front of a studio audience, then it | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
will be seen by millions. If you don't get it right, Babyface, that's | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
your only chance. If you think there is a laugh in Hamlet and you don't | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
get it, nobody is going to notice. You just play the drama, which is | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
pretty easy and pretty intense, you know. | :19:59. | :20:01. | |
I see she still doesn't iron your shirts properly. There is such a | :20:02. | :20:09. | |
thing as to properly, Alice. Like me? Yes, this house is more aseptic | :20:10. | :20:17. | |
than the theatre I operate in. You use to descend on the dishes while | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
we were still eating from them, unfinished puddings whisked away in | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
their prime, it was like living with a magpie. I'm sorry. It's all right. | :20:26. | :20:37. | |
I know she talked about writing a stage play for me which never | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
happened, which was going to be a play, not comedy, it never happened. | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
I think there was a hankering there for more serious recognition in a | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
way. The shift in Carla's writing reflected a more serious tone in her | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
wider life. The childhood passion for nature was now blossoming into a | :21:00. | :21:06. | |
more public role as an activist. Carla found a kindred spirit in her | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
love of animals when she formed a close friendship with Linda | :21:11. | :21:11. | |
McCartney. Mum and Linda were very good | :21:12. | :21:27. | |
friends, they were best friends. They would talk to each other on the | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
phone on a regular, if not daily basis. Both vegetarians, lifelong | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
vegetarians, and they loved their animals. They never stopped talking | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
about them, and the work they can and did do to support the welfare of | :21:44. | :21:50. | |
animals. I'm so proud of you. Mum did it through Animal Line, which | :21:51. | :21:59. | |
was a charity, and her animal sanctuary. And Linda supported all | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
that work and did whatever she was called to do really. They wrote and | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
sang together. In 1985, Carla pushed her writing | :22:09. | :22:29. | |
even further towards drama with I Woke Up One Morning, the story of | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
alcoholics who meet while undergoing therapy. Take it easy. I have done | :22:33. | :22:40. | |
the deed, said the word, she is waiting now for respectability. We | :22:41. | :22:47. | |
have all been caught in the trap, life is like a minefield, an awesome | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
space dotted about with women. It is impossible to get from the cradle to | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
the coughing -- coffin without treading on one of them. | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
It wasn't well received, and many thought Carla had lost her touch. | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
Throughout her life, Carla was compelled to write. Every time she | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
picked up the pen, she couldn't wait to see what came out. Her response | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
to the criticism was to go back to her hometown and write about what | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
she knew best, the people of Liverpool. My childhood in Liverpool | :23:25. | :23:33. | |
was streets, the sound of the big ships, the Scouse accent, the sheer | :23:34. | :23:43. | |
magic of Liverpool. Within a year, Carla had written the most | :23:44. | :23:45. | |
successful comedy of her career. Read became her biggest hit with | :23:46. | :23:57. | |
nearly half the nation tuning in to watch the escapades of the Boswell | :23:58. | :24:08. | |
family. -- Bread. Won't be long now. Must she always be filing her nails? | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
She spends her whole life doing herself up. I'm a model, aren't I? | :24:14. | :24:23. | |
If it's not that, it's shaving legs, dabbing spots, nothing is allowed to | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
grow on her! When you got the call to say Carla Lane has written a new | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
series and you are going to audition for it, it was as big a deal as it | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
got. I walked in with this blonde hair and obviously did something | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
that she saw that had essences. She worked very much with the essence of | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
people, what is the essence of that person, what makes them tick, what | :24:49. | :24:53. | |
makes them go that extra mile, what are their weaknesses and strengths. | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
Even Joey, who was the protector of the family and the most confident | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
and the most assured member of the family, he had his Achilles heel | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
too. She gave everybody things they had to deal with, things they | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
couldn't quite reach out and grab. Why don't we talk about life instead | :25:14. | :25:21. | |
of nightmares, why don't we dream? One day, I'm going to go into an | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
attic and in the corner there will be a Leonardo, a pale maiden with | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
hands clasped and an enigmatic smile. I thought somebody had | :25:32. | :25:37. | |
already found that one. I will say, that's a nice little print, I will | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
give you a tenner to take it off your hands, then off I will be to | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
Sotheby's, Christie 's and the Bahamas. I'm going to open my own | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
business in London. Why London, they are all show-offs. They are all | :25:52. | :25:57. | |
funny down Saddam's, they have a bath every day. We haven't heard | :25:58. | :26:05. | |
what our Joey dreams about yet. I dream about keeping the art of | :26:06. | :26:12. | |
dreaming. Isn't he deep! I think she allowed drama to have a place at the | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
comedy table and vice versa and I think that has helped shows like The | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
Office and some single camera comedies we see now where the | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
writers don't feel the need to be funny all the time. We are just | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
human, we make mistakes and mess up, humans are oddballs, and Carla just | :26:34. | :26:40. | |
wrote about that. This is Mrs Boswell, I would like to know why my | :26:41. | :26:48. | |
gas bill is ?206, it's ridiculous. Are you sure I'm not connected up to | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
the Olympic torch? I would like a detailed account please, in English, | :26:54. | :26:59. | |
not abbreviations. Any good writers see the world through their own | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
unique perspective, through their own particular glasses that they | :27:03. | :27:09. | |
wear, and Carla had unique and individual classes. They weren't | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
Rosie or dark, they were multifaceted and she wrote down what | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
she saw. Good writers have got to write, there is nothing they can do | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
about it, and she had to get these people out, their lives and troubles | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
and sort them out. She felt duty bound to sort Ria, out, Joey out, | :27:29. | :27:37. | |
and the girls from The Liver Birds. Her legacy now is that she got us | :27:38. | :27:44. | |
involved with people, she got us to care about them. All I can say is | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
that it was very rare that I had to do a scene or speak any lines that | :27:49. | :27:58. | |
didn't ring true. She had this ability to be actually quite | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
impressive in her writing, in that I think it was mirror imaging | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
something that was going on in society very, very accurately. Carla | :28:09. | :28:13. | |
was a very big presence always in my life because that series... You | :28:14. | :28:21. | |
know, I had 42 years in theatre and none of it had the impact that The | :28:22. | :28:30. | |
Liver Birds had. I always remember her with huge affection and may I | :28:31. | :28:37. | |
say gratitude because Butterflies was a very important show in my | :28:38. | :28:40. | |
so-called career. Thank you, Carla. | :28:41. | :28:44. |