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Jack Bruce is probably Scotland's most famous international musician. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:10 | |
In a 50-year career, Jack has fronted '60s supergroup Cream | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
and played with everyone from Marvin Gaye to Jimi Hendrix, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
and from Lulu to Lou Reed. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
# When lights close their tired eyes... # | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
Jack Bruce's contribution to rock music has changed | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
the culture of music as we see it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Jack, he never thought about it, he just did it. He was a natural. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
Jack Bruce tore up the book and threw it away, and I went with him. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
He is one of the biggest talents in the world, you know. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
I mean, he lives, eats and breathes music. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
Especially for this programme, | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
Jack returned to Scotland to reinterpret six songs pivotal to his life and his music. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:03 | |
He spent three days rehearsing and recording with | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
the cream of Scottish musicians, including hot traditional trio Lau, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
to create radical new performances of some of his best-known work. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:18 | |
I quite often announce it | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
as a classic piece of Scottish miserablism! | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
About sums it up, really. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
MUSIC: "I Feel Free" by Cream | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
I think there is a lot of Scottish influence in my music, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
it would be surprising if there wasn't. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Playing rock and jazz and sometimes blues, then you have this | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
other little dimension, which is the teuchter in you! | 0:01:52 | 0:01:58 | |
Even if you leave all your life and go back, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
you are still living in Scotland, you know, you never get away from it. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
This is Wester Ross | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
and it is towards the north of the West Highlands of Scotland. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
The mountains here are some of the oldest in the world. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
It has got a feeling of that, when you are in this landscape. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
You just feel significant by being so insignificant. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:27 | |
I feel there is a lot of Scottish influence in my songs. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
Weird Of Hermiston, for instance. Lovely lyrics. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:40 | |
Weird Of Hermiston, of course, | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
was based on the unfinished novel | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
by Robert Louis Stevenson. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
I think both of us were very into Robert Louis Stevenson, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
in particular the darker things that he wrote. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
# I'm going to a wedding | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
# I'm going to a wedding Dressed in black | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
# I'm going to a party | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
# I'm going to a party, won't be back | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
# But I'm not going with you | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
# No | 0:03:22 | 0:03:23 | |
# Trees are no longer a comfort | 0:03:26 | 0:03:30 | |
# Messages sad in the wires | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
# My hair is hung down | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
# With the blackest of rain that I'm feeling... # | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Weir of Hermiston, his unfinished novel, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
has this really peculiar atmosphere of total doom about it. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:52 | |
It's really amazing. It's very heavy. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
# ..I'm going to the mountains to cool my fears | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
# But I'm not going with you | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
# No | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
# Skies are no longer a comfort | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
# Leaves turning black in the autumn | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
# The corn is hung down | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
# With the saddest of weight that I'm feeling | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
# I'm going to the funeral | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
# I'm going to a funeral Dressed in white | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
# I'm going to a nightclub | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
# I'm going to a nightclub to sleep at night | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
# But I'm not going with you | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
# No | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
# Love is no longer a comfort | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
# Fantastic times are forgotten | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
# My heart is hung down | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
# With the saddest of rain that I'm feeling. # | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
Jack Bruce was born in Bishopbriggs in 1943 | 0:05:15 | 0:05:20 | |
and at an early age showed a talent for and a love of music. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
I think I was born a musician, really. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
Certainly, a performer of some kind, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
because my mother used to put me in for all these competitive festivals. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:38 | |
I won quite a few of them. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Then I realised that I had this talent and also, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:45 | |
the ability to make money with it. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
So I joined a church choir | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
and I got paid for that, that's why I did it. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
I went commercial, commercial for God! | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
So, you know, it just showed that I would do anything for a few bob, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
even then. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
Jack began playing in dance bands around Glasgow, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
while still at school. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
This Musicians Union register of 1958 shows Jack | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
as a professional bass player, which raised a few eyebrows, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
given he was only 15. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
While I was in the sixth form at school, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
I was also working as a professional musician. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
I was playing at the Dennistoun Palais, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
and making more money than my dad was. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
That made me realise that you could actually make a living | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
out of music, and meet girls! | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
I mean, who wants not to do that, you know? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
His talent was encouraged and he started playing the cello, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
winning a scholarship to the Royal Scottish Academy of Music. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
I was doing cello, piano as a second instrument, and composition. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:03 | |
I found it all very middle-class. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
If you were a working-class lad in those days, you just didn't fit in. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
And they would tell you that, they would say, "Oh, you've got no chance. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
"Forget it." They would just tell you that! | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
At least they were honest about it. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
Then, various things happened, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
including being sexually assaulted by the, er... | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
by the composition teacher. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
And that, in those days, that was something | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
that you did not just talk about, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
you didn't even mention it, you kept quiet about it. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
It really put me off, I tell you! | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
He was a kind of... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
friend/associate of Benjamin Britten. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:58 | |
Say no more! | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Jack left Glasgow and went on the road with a trad jazz band. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
Whilst on tour, he came across a drummer called Ginger Baker. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:16 | |
We were doing a jazz set in the cellar, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
and this scruffy little Scots guy | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
comes to the side of the stage, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
going, "Let me sit in, man! Let me sit in!" | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
And to everybody's surprise, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:33 | |
he played his arse off. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
And I'm afraid that was the end of our bass player, Morris. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:41 | |
This chance meeting started a 40-year love-hate relationship | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
between Jack and Ginger. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:49 | |
Jack met me when I was a junkie. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
I was a junkie in the early days of our relationship. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:59 | |
I was a junkie drummer. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
They first played together in Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated, | 0:09:05 | 0:09:10 | |
where Jack's talents were soon noticed by other musicians. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
To me, he was in another world, you know, he was a jazz musician, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:20 | |
and a very, very avant-garde jazz musician, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
compared to the rest of the London scene. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
After playing with Alexis Korner, | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Jack and Ginger joined The Graham Bond Organisation. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
But as the band became more successful, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
the tension between the two of them grew. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
Jack was becoming very popular as a singer, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:44 | |
and it all went to his head a bit, you see. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
And he started shouting at people on stage, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
mainly, in particular, me. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
Um... | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
One particular night in Golders Green it's my drum solo... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
..and Jack's phrasing along with my bass drum, in my drum solo. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
And he suddenly turns round and screams into the microphone | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
so the whole audience can hear, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
"You're playing too fucking loud, man!" | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
In my drum solo! | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
The on-stage arguments between Jack and Ginger | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
went from bad to worse. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
And in the end, Graham came up to me and said, "Look, he's got to go." | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Well, I was the junkie in the band so I got the gig... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
..of firing him. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
After I'd left Graham Bond... | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
..at the wrong end of a knife from Ginger... | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
I joined... for a while I joined John Mayall. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
And then, after that I joined Manfred Mann. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
# On our block, all of the guys | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
# Call her flamingo... # | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
The strange thing about Jack Bruce joining Manfred Mann | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
was it was like getting in a Lamborghini | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
to do your weekly shopping at Sainsbury's, because... | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
this was like a famous session player | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
who could play all kinds of stuff | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
and had a fearsome reputation as a player | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
and there he was being asked to play one-note baselines on pop songs. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:35 | |
That was what I always say | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
was an ill-advised attempt at commercialism... | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
cos I never got any money for it. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
As Jack left Manfred Mann, | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
Ginger was talking to a 21-year-old wonderkid guitarist | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
about forming a band. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
Eric Clapton's choice of bass player was a bit of a shock to Mr Baker. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
And then Eric dropped a bombshell. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
He said, "What about Jack?" | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
Now, he didn't, as Jack will have it, say... | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
.."Either we get Jack or I'm not doing it." | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
I didn't know at that point | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
that there was any enmity between Ginger and Jack... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
I'd heard rumours | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
but I didn't think they were that grounded in fact, so... | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
So I said to Ginger, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:31 | |
"Yeah, I want...I'll do it but only if Jack comes in." | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
Ginger went to Eric and asked him to form a band and Eric said, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
"Yeah, but we've got to | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
"have Jack in the band as the singer," basically, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
cos he had heard me singing a couple of songs I used to sing with Graham. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
Ginger's reaction was so...vehement, you know... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
"Grrr," he just started talking under his breath and mumbling | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and he didn't blow it entirely cos he had to have me... | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
he was trying to keep me on a string, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
so he sort of grudgingly agreed but he was warning me all the time, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
"It won't work, it won't work." | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
And it wasn't... Ginger at that point - | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
he's probably much more mature in his view of it all now - | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
was just blaming Jack for everything, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
it wasn't saying... Ginger didn't say, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
"I don't get along with Jack," he would just accuse Jack | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
of all these different kinds of character defects | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
that made life unbearable, so... | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
I thought, "What am I getting into? What am I getting into here?" | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
But at that time in my life - I was in my early 20s - | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
you know, I thought, "What have I got to lose?" | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
# I've been waiting so long... # | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
'Jack just developed his own singing style, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
'which was completely unique in the end | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
'and quite operatic cos he used...' | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
and correctly, he sang from his diaphragm and he sang big, you know. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
At first, I was a little bit confused about... | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Was that the right way to do this stuff? | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
Then it just...well, this is what it is and this is actually who we are. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
This mad kind of mishmash of styles and... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
..aspirations, musical aspirations is coming together in a way | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
that is absolutely different to anything... | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
There's nobody else like this and it's actually pretty good. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
I was quite unprepared for Cream. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Before the curtain even went back | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
they hit the opening chord of the opening number | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
and it was like the heavens had opened and thunder had come. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
# I found out today | 0:14:37 | 0:14:44 | |
# We're going wrong... # | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
The one song I remember more than any other | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
from that first Cream concert was We're Going Wrong. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Jack just closes his eyes and sings in the spotlight | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
and pours his heart out and it just goes heart-to-heart. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
'I think to this day, it's really one of the great songs of the era.' | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
# Please | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
# Open your eyes | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
# Try | 0:15:35 | 0:15:40 | |
# To realise | 0:15:44 | 0:15:50 | |
# I found out | 0:15:59 | 0:16:04 | |
# Today | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
# We're going wrong... # | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
We're Going Wrong - often people think of that | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
as some kind of deep, political statement of the '60s | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
and all of that stuff but in fact... | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
'I'd just had a fight, a rather bad argument with my first wife, Janet, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:32 | |
'and I just stormed out of the house and...' | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
..the words and the music came into my head at the same time. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
That's all it was. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
# I found out | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
# Today | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
# We're going wrong | 0:16:57 | 0:17:02 | |
# We're | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
# Going | 0:17:08 | 0:17:09 | |
# Going, going wrong | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
# Going wrong | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
# Going wrong | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
# Going wrong | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
# Going | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
# Going wrong | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
# Yeah | 0:17:25 | 0:17:27 | |
# Going wrong | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
# We're going wrong. # | 0:18:09 | 0:18:16 | |
In the early days of Cream, Jack was introduced to Pete Brown, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
a performance poet and lyricist. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
I think it's an important part | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
of the Jack Bruce story that... he, along with Pete Brown | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
did write the vast majority of the material for Cream. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
And it's always interesting when somebody outside of the band | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
provides a perspective or a lyric like that because it actually means | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
that the people in the band can concentrate on being in the band. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
I got the call, basically. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
When they formed Cream, I got the call and... | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
I went down to the studio and there we were writing Wrapping Paper. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:11 | |
# Wrapping paper... # | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
Jack and Pete became the main songwriters in the band, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
much to the annoyance of Ginger. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
The Pete Brown thing... | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
..it was a farce! | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
Pete Brown earns more out of Cream than Eric or I! | 0:19:27 | 0:19:33 | |
I had no problem with Pete Brown, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
I liked Pete Brown a lot, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:38 | |
I thought he was a very interesting guy and a nice guy. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
For me, it was fine, but I think... | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
I think it caused friction in other areas. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Then I approached Pete Brown to write songs with us... | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
..and it didn't work out like that. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
The chemistry was always between me and Jack. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
I tried to write with Ginger and I tried to write with Eric a little bit | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
but Eric wasn't really writing much at the time | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
and Ginger's ideas were great but they were very, very far out | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
and not necessarily belonging to Cream. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
Ginger got very embittered | 0:20:17 | 0:20:19 | |
because he thinks that playing the drums in a song | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
is the same as writing the song, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
but it doesn't quite work that way. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
Somebody's got to stay up all night and write them. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
Until recently Ginger Baker lived in South Africa, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
where he mixed his passions for music and polo. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
Ill health and financial difficulties have led to him | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
giving up his horses and trying to sell his ranch. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
People go, "Oh, Ginger Baker, Eric Clapton. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:56 | |
"Ginger Baker's super rich." | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
And that's what they believe. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
No, I regret being part of Cream... | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
..simply because of the position I find myself in now. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
Unfortunately, I'm not super rich. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
I think I'm poorer now than I've ever been in my life. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
Between 1966 and 1968, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
Cream recorded four albums which sold over 35 million copies. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:41 | |
They toured constantly and as the gigs got bigger | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
so did the volume on stage. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
No, the happiest time | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
was the first year and a half. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
Then Marshall came upon the scene... | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
..with these huge | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
Marshall amps. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
And the volume... | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
got to be... | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
painful for me. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
In order to get any impact, we had to play loud on stage. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
Yeah, I certainly played loud. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
We all played loud. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
I asked him if he could turn it down a bit | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
and he threw a fit | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
and turned it up. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
He's got it the wrong way round again. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
It wasn't out of choice that Eric and myself were playing very loud. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:47 | |
It was in order to achieve something. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
I was the one who was suffering at least as much as he was | 0:22:50 | 0:22:54 | |
cos I had to do the vocals and he didn't. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
It was almost like they were both | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
looking for the next opportunity to say, "I told you!" | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
And I would be the one, you know, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
"I told you he'd do that. He always does that." | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
And the other one, "Yeah, that's cos you do that." | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
I, very quickly, became the caretaker. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
I kept trying to think of ways to make them see | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
that it wasn't worth it but it was so deeply ingrained. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
I think quite a few things had probably already taken place | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
before I ever came into the picture | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
that they hadn't been able to forgive one another for. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
I think they both had transgressions that needed to be resolved. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:36 | |
I don't suppose they ever will be. Still not, I'm sure. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
But, at the same time, they love one another. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
There was deep love in the fray and that couldn't be left out. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:49 | |
They would be drawn back together again. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
As Cream's frontman, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
Jack moved bass from the shadows to front stage, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
inspiring thousands of young players to pick up a bass guitar. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
Before Jack Bruce, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
the bass player's gig really was just sort of standing there, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:18 | |
sort of plodding along and putting in the root notes. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
Jack came along and said, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
"Guys, this is what you can do with a bass guitar." | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
Singing songs and playing bass is quite a hard thing to do. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
I took up the bass because it was the simplest thing that I could do | 0:24:33 | 0:24:38 | |
and still sing lead at the same time. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
# Three, five, seven, nine A double white line... # | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
So to actually play | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
really complicated parts like Jack does and sing at the same time, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
requires a level of competence and schizophrenia | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
that I'm just completely incapable of. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
I think Jack was a part of | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
making the bass something cool. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Something that you had to have. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Something you had to hear. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
# Greedy little people in a sea of distress | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
# Keep your more to receive your less... # | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
He is such an influential bass player... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
So much inventiveness, so musical, so exciting. So heavy. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
Beautiful, pretty. All of those things. Awful... | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
I always think of him as a warm player | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
mostly because of Cream being such a warm-sounding band. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
But he can be cold and mean and nasty with that thing too, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
which is such a great colour in music. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
The date is November 26th 1968, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
an historic occasion in the world of music. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
A group called Cream are making their farewell appearance | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
at the Royal Albert Hall in London, England. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
They played together for only two years but during that time | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
have single-handedly given pop a musical authority | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
which only the deaf cannot acknowledge | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
and only the ignorant cannot hear. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Their records have sold more copies in the past 24 months than | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
the Bible has sold in the past 24 years. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
The touring was obviously where the real cash would come from. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
So we went out and did whistlestop tours across America and Europe. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
We would play every night. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
A six-month tour playing every night, by the time we got to | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
the end of '67 I weighed something like nine stone | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
and I wasn't eating. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
Most bands have a special time, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
you know, things like that. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
They last a certain time | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
and if you want to keep it going then it's false. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:59 | |
You keep it going, you repeat yourself and go through the motions. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:05 | |
We weren't giving ourselves the time to recharge our batteries. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:12 | |
I think if you're going to work that hard, even if you're young, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
there comes a time when you need to stop and reflect. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:23 | |
You just have conversations, "This is great what we've been doing | 0:27:23 | 0:27:29 | |
"but we're doing the same thing we've been doing for the last year." | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
The only reason Cream lasted as long as it did | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
was because it was so successful. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
I think it could have gone on a bit longer | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
but I also think that what we did was really about right. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:53 | |
A couple of albums, and some tremendous gigs. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
After Cream broke up in 1968, Jack went straight into the studio | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
and recorded his first solo album, Songs For a Tailor, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
which got to Number 6 in the UK album charts | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
and featured the track Theme from an Imaginary Western. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
I had the music for that in a different form | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
for many years without knowing what to do with it. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
And Pete Brown came up with those wonderful lyrics. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
I was a fan of westerns and when I heard the music that Jack came up with | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
I thought, yeah, this has a feeling of... | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
kind of a Scottish thing but a western thing. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
And I tried to combine those things in the lyrics. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
# When the wagons | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
# Leave the city | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
# For the forest | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
# And further on | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
# Painted wagons | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
# Of the morning | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
# Dusty roads where they've gone | 0:29:31 | 0:29:36 | |
# Sometimes travelin' | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
# Through the darkness | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
# At the summer | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
# Comin' home | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
# And fallen faces | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
# By the wayside | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
# Look as if they might have known | 0:30:05 | 0:30:11 | |
# But the sun was in their eyes | 0:30:14 | 0:30:22 | |
# And the desert | 0:30:22 | 0:30:26 | |
# The desert that dries | 0:30:26 | 0:30:30 | |
# In the country towns | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
# Where the laughter sounds | 0:30:35 | 0:30:39 | |
# The dancing | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
# Oh, the singing | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
# The music | 0:30:55 | 0:30:57 | |
# When they play | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
# The fires | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
# That they started | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
# Oh, those girls | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
# No regret | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
# Sometimes they found it | 0:31:20 | 0:31:24 | |
# Sometimes they kept it | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
# Often lost it | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
# On the way | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
# Found each other | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
# To possess it | 0:31:41 | 0:31:46 | |
# Sometimes they died | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
# In sights of day | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
# But the sun was in their eyes | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
# And the desert | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
# The desert that dries | 0:32:06 | 0:32:12 | |
# In the country towns | 0:32:12 | 0:32:17 | |
# Where the laughter sounds | 0:32:17 | 0:32:21 | |
# Oh | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
# Oh | 0:32:36 | 0:32:42 | |
# Going down down down down down | 0:32:43 | 0:32:48 | |
# Going down down down down down. # | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
Over the next ten years, Jack recorded six more solo albums | 0:33:07 | 0:33:13 | |
but none had the commercial success of Cream | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
and by the end of the '70s Jack was facing financial ruin. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
He was in an ongoing dispute over royalties with his manager | 0:33:20 | 0:33:24 | |
and was heavily involved in hard drugs. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
In 1979 he left his wife Janet. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
Whilst on tour in Germany earlier that year Jack had met | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
a graphic designer called Margrit Seyffer. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
When I find out who he was I thought it's a little romance, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:44 | |
why not make the most out of it, but it was more than that. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
From that day we just stayed together really. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:52 | |
You're not thinking of riding her out? Oh, you are. | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
He was in deep trouble, really. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:01 | |
Mainly mentally, because he said "Everything has been taken from me. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:10 | |
"And do I deserve this?" He was almost in a suicidal state. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:16 | |
Not almost, he actually was. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
And that's why he wanted to sort of really, he was really... | 0:34:18 | 0:34:24 | |
..destructive, he really wanted to... | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
He didn't care how much alcohol he drunk or how many drugs he took. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:33 | |
He just mainly had given up. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
I had a hard tussle with hard drugs. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
Whenever I'm asked about this I don't like to talk about it a lot | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
because I know it can be romanticised. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
In the same way that when I was very very young, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
I was attracted to heroin by the people that I admired, | 0:34:54 | 0:35:00 | |
people like Charlie Parker, the bebop people who seemed.... | 0:35:00 | 0:35:06 | |
Who use it and it became a romantic thing. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
So the first thing I did as soon as I could was take drugs. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
At this time, despite many attempts to give up heroin, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
Jack was still an addict and people close to him were getting worried. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:27 | |
And the next one is called Keep It Down. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
Keep It Down was really a song about addiction. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:38 | |
He just knew if he wanted his marriage to work | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
he couldn't just stay on heroin | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
because there would have been a point I would have walked away. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:49 | |
And he was aware of that. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
I was very fortunate in having Margrit to help me | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
but ultimately it is down to yourself. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
Nobody can do it for you. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
If you are doing cold turkey, you are the guy or gal who has to do it. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:09 | |
And it takes a bit of doing and it's not worth going through that. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:15 | |
I went through that so many times that it's scary. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:21 | |
And if you can think of a hangover | 0:36:21 | 0:36:24 | |
and multiply it by about a million... why bother? | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
The high is not worth it. Nothing is worth it. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Have some good sex, that's better. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
# Keep it down | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
# If it's still hangin' around | 0:36:49 | 0:36:54 | |
# Kept away | 0:36:56 | 0:36:57 | |
# Well, it's lost inside a day | 0:36:59 | 0:37:03 | |
# On the journey through the streets | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
# To the corner you got to meet | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
# Keep keeping it down | 0:37:15 | 0:37:18 | |
# If it's hanging around | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
# In the dawn | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
# When the last drop it has gone | 0:37:29 | 0:37:34 | |
# Summer leaves | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
# From the hill | 0:37:39 | 0:37:41 | |
# Where my love grieves | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
# From the sun where you met her | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
# To the shade where you left her | 0:37:50 | 0:37:55 | |
# Keep keepin' it down if it's hangin' around | 0:37:56 | 0:38:01 | |
# Head down | 0:38:06 | 0:38:07 | |
# Head down... # | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
It's my message to him, | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
really, in a way. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
So he is singing a message to himself on the song | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
about trying to keep away from it! | 0:38:32 | 0:38:38 | |
That's what that one's about. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
# In the night | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
# There's a space replaces your face | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
# That you lent | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
# I don't know where it went | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
# Smile as it passes you by | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
# It still sits up in your sky | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
# Keep keeping it down if it's hanging around. # | 0:39:12 | 0:39:17 | |
Jack has had five children - two sons from his first marriage | 0:39:36 | 0:39:43 | |
and two daughters and a son with Margrit. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
You know, Jack is somebody who is a father. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
It's one of his roles is being a father. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
I'm somebody that's been a reluctant father | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
but he's not a reluctant father. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
Childsong was written for | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
my, erm, my oldest son Jonas, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:20 | |
who died when he was 28. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
It was written for him, really. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:30 | |
You know, the lyrics. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
A few of my songs have been written for my children. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:37 | |
It's very difficult for me to talk about that, even now, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:43 | |
after all those years. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
I find it quite difficult, so, I can't talk about it. Sorry. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
I wasn't able to play the piano for two years after he died, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
for instance. I couldn't touch it. Because that was his instrument. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:58 | |
# She shakes her head and says | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
# That her last word is spoken | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
# Tumbling down | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
# Something she found | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
# Where happiness lay | 0:41:56 | 0:42:00 | |
# Not far away | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
# Hear it now | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
# You got so many ways | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
# When the last chains are broken | 0:42:17 | 0:42:22 | |
# Tumbling down | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
# You hear a new sound | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
# It's dark into day | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
# Not far away | 0:42:38 | 0:42:43 | |
# Hear it now | 0:42:43 | 0:42:44 | |
# When summer leaves | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
# The tangles that it weaves | 0:42:51 | 0:42:57 | |
# Are floating in the wind | 0:42:57 | 0:43:02 | |
# Hard to begin | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
# To get back in | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
# You stay | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
# But it's never in only one piece | 0:43:15 | 0:43:20 | |
# You got to find release | 0:43:20 | 0:43:28 | |
# He runs away and plays | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
# His laughter is just awoken | 0:43:49 | 0:43:53 | |
# Tumbling down | 0:43:53 | 0:43:55 | |
# The eyes of a clown | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
# And truth sings today | 0:44:04 | 0:44:10 | |
# Not far away | 0:44:10 | 0:44:13 | |
# Hear it now | 0:44:15 | 0:44:18 | |
# When summer leaves | 0:44:19 | 0:44:22 | |
# The tangles that it weaves | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
# Are floating in the wind | 0:44:29 | 0:44:34 | |
# Hard to begin | 0:44:34 | 0:44:39 | |
# To get back in | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
# You stay, but it's never in only one piece | 0:44:46 | 0:44:53 | |
# You've got to find release | 0:44:53 | 0:45:00 | |
# Hear it now | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
# Hear it now | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
# Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
# Ohhh | 0:45:20 | 0:45:22 | |
# Tumbling down | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
# Hear it now | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
# Oh, yeah | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
# Tumbling down | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
# Tumbling down | 0:45:34 | 0:45:36 | |
# Hear it now | 0:45:39 | 0:45:42 | |
# Now | 0:45:46 | 0:45:47 | |
# Hear it now. # | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
Jack has played all sorts of music in his 50-year career, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:14 | |
from the free jazz of Tony Williams' Lifetime | 0:46:14 | 0:46:17 | |
to his Latin-influenced band, Cuckooland Express. | 0:46:17 | 0:46:21 | |
But over the years, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:25 | |
Jack has often returned to the rock trio as a form of expression. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:30 | |
So what is the attraction of a trio? | 0:46:30 | 0:46:34 | |
Well, because they're cheap. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
There's something magical about a trio. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:40 | |
And there really is. There really is. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:43 | |
Especially in kind of rock or blues or something like that. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:47 | |
Because you haven't got that | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
kind of block chord thing that you have if you've got a piano or an organ or something. | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
So it's a whole different way of playing. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
In 2003, rumours started about Cream reforming for some showcase gigs. | 0:46:58 | 0:47:04 | |
But the same year, Jack's life went on hold when he was diagnosed | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
with inoperable liver cancer and went through a liver transplant. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
The transplant was fantastic. | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
But unfortunately, as happens with a lot of people | 0:47:22 | 0:47:28 | |
after something like that, the infection is the danger. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:32 | |
And I certainly got a lot of infections. | 0:47:32 | 0:47:37 | |
And that was what I had to try and struggle to survive, to get through. | 0:47:37 | 0:47:42 | |
-There you go. -Oh, that looks good. -Cuppa tea. And a biscuit. -Thank you. | 0:47:42 | 0:47:49 | |
There was a point he would have died within two hours, | 0:47:49 | 0:47:53 | |
and the doctor looked at both of us | 0:47:53 | 0:47:55 | |
and said, do you want to go back | 0:47:55 | 0:47:58 | |
on the fifth floor to intensive care? | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
And it was a really big decision for Jack. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:05 | |
Should I go through all this again? Or should I just say goodbye? | 0:48:05 | 0:48:09 | |
Well, there was a point | 0:48:09 | 0:48:11 | |
when they wanted to turn the life-support machines off. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:16 | |
They brought my family in. | 0:48:16 | 0:48:18 | |
Very cruelly, I think, now. Obviously, I wasn't that aware of it. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:21 | |
But they brought them all in to say goodbye and I'm all tubed up, as it were. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:26 | |
And I thought he was dying, and then suddenly, | 0:48:26 | 0:48:30 | |
this warm feeling came through me, like it's not a bad feeling. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:36 | |
How do I say goodbye to my love? | 0:48:36 | 0:48:39 | |
It was a bit like that, but Jack said, he just sort of, | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
he wanted to go up to this fifth floor and keep on fighting. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:49 | |
They said, well, we're going to turn off the life-support machines now. | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
And it was like, I must've heard it or something, | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
it was like a flicker of an eyelid. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:59 | |
"His eyelid moved! Don't turn off the machine!" | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
And then, I do remember Margrit saying to me, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
you're going to have to, | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
do you want to go through this attempt to live again? | 0:49:09 | 0:49:14 | |
And I said, I did. Somehow, I communicated that. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:18 | |
So they let me keep on trying to survive. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:23 | |
Barely a year later, Jack was back on stage at the Royal Albert Hall | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
as part of one of the most exciting reunions in rock history. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:32 | |
People had been on at me, or on at us for a long time, to reform. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:38 | |
I thought, well, in a way, because we've reached this kind of age, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:43 | |
and we're all still alive, it'd be churlish not to, because | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
there are lots of groups that would like to do that, but they can't. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
Like, for instance, with The Who, they can have a reunion, | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
but it's not the full thing. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
The Beatles can't do it, we can do it. You know. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:58 | |
We can actually do it, so why not give it a try? | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
I didn't really hear about it until I came out of the coma | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
and then I said, "Oh, yeah, definitely, let's do it". | 0:50:06 | 0:50:08 | |
But then I had to learn to walk | 0:50:08 | 0:50:13 | |
and talk and then I had to learn to sing. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:17 | |
The night we went on, we walked onto that stage and I swear | 0:50:21 | 0:50:26 | |
they stood and applauded for what seemed like five minutes. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
People went crazy. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
And it was very, very emotional for all of us, | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
to know that we had had that kind of effect on people. | 0:50:35 | 0:50:39 | |
# In a white room With black curtains... # | 0:50:39 | 0:50:43 | |
I think the love from the audience carried us through. | 0:50:43 | 0:50:47 | |
I think, musically, you could pick it all to pieces, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:51 | |
what we actually achieved musically. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
It's what it is. | 0:50:55 | 0:50:56 | |
It's a reunion, many, many years later | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
of pretty old guys playing young guys' music. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:05 | |
# Dawn light smiles on you leaving | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
# My contentment... # | 0:51:09 | 0:51:11 | |
We had a fantastic time. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:15 | |
And I... But, you know, it had to be said | 0:51:15 | 0:51:18 | |
that this was, quite clearly - and we were all in agreement - this was going to be a one-off. | 0:51:18 | 0:51:23 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:51:25 | 0:51:27 | |
And, er... And then this offer came in, from New York, you know. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:34 | |
It was a million a night for each of us, three nights. | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
I thought... And the thing is, playing the Albert Hall, | 0:51:38 | 0:51:41 | |
for anybody, doesn't matter, unless you go on solo, | 0:51:41 | 0:51:47 | |
it's not going to break even. | 0:51:47 | 0:51:50 | |
We didn't make very much. | 0:51:50 | 0:51:53 | |
We made some money from filming it. | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
But to get this kind of offer for just a three-night live show... | 0:51:55 | 0:52:01 | |
But then we did Madison Square Garden. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
Now, the original Cream concerts were in May. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:08 | |
And then October was the Garden. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:10 | |
So, between that time, um... | 0:52:10 | 0:52:15 | |
I don't quite know how to put it without being...hurtful. | 0:52:16 | 0:52:21 | |
I don't want to be hurtful to Ginger, because I love him | 0:52:21 | 0:52:24 | |
and we're friends again now and I want that to continue, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:27 | |
but I don't think he stuck in at his practice enough. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:32 | |
But we'd made a big mistake. | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
We assumed we could go back in just where we left off. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
So we'd practise maybe three days, before the first show. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:43 | |
And we practised half a song, instead of doing full rehearsals. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:48 | |
I dreaded... | 0:52:48 | 0:52:50 | |
..something happening. | 0:52:51 | 0:52:56 | |
And unfortunately, it happened. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
And when Ginger has problems, | 0:52:59 | 0:53:03 | |
he has to take them out on somebody. | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
And it was always me that he took those things out on. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
When we got on stage the first night, it was wrong. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
It didn't click. | 0:53:12 | 0:53:14 | |
We were... | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
We were short. | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
We were short in our capabilities and a fight broke out, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:22 | |
a verbal fight broke out between Jack and Ginger. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
And it got sour, instantly. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
And I thought "I should've known, I should've known." | 0:53:27 | 0:53:31 | |
Cos we went back to the worst days of our original incarnation, very quickly. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:38 | |
I thought, "Well, you know, you've only got yourself to blame." | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
If we had addressed this and done full rehearsals... | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
But that would've impinged on the amount of money we were going to make. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:49 | |
So, the cash kind of soured it. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
Playing the Albert Hall... | 0:53:51 | 0:53:53 | |
it resolved me, I have to say, into saying, "You did the right thing the first time, treat it with respect." | 0:53:53 | 0:54:00 | |
Maybe it should've been left there, you know. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:04 | |
And money will always put an angle, an odd angle on things. | 0:54:04 | 0:54:09 | |
HE PLAYS THE PIANO | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
I tend to just write things that I like now. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
And, er... And some people like them. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:29 | |
And, yeah, I'm still going. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:31 | |
You never know, might come up with another Sunshine Of Your Love riff. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:36 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
So, we're in my flat, and we'd been working all night, | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
fruitlessly. We didn't have a single... | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
We didn't come up with a sausage. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
And then he said, "Well, what about this?" | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
and he grabbed his double bass and played me the riff. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:57 | |
And Pete looked out of the window and the sun was coming up and he wrote... | 0:54:57 | 0:55:03 | |
It's getting near dawn. "It's getting near dawn | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
"and lights close their tired eyes." | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
And that was it. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:09 | |
# It's getting near dawn | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
# And lights close their tired eyes | 0:55:18 | 0:55:22 | |
# I'll soon be with you, my love | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
# To give you my dawn surprise | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
# I'll be with you, darling, soon | 0:55:32 | 0:55:35 | |
# Be with you when the stars start falling | 0:55:37 | 0:55:42 | |
# I've been waiting so long | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
# To be where I'm going | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
# In the sunshine of your love... # | 0:56:02 | 0:56:09 | |
It's about a musician coming home from a gig | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
and hoping that his wife or girlfriend | 0:56:13 | 0:56:16 | |
is going to be in a receptive mood when he gets back! | 0:56:16 | 0:56:20 | |
# ..I'm with you, my love | 0:56:20 | 0:56:21 | |
# The light's shining through on you | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
# I'm with you, my love | 0:56:27 | 0:56:30 | |
# It's the morning and just we two | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
# I'll stay with you, darling, now | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
# Keep with you till my seas are dried up, yeah | 0:56:43 | 0:56:48 | |
# I've been waiting so long | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
# To be where I'm going | 0:57:03 | 0:57:07 | |
# In the sunshine of your lo-o-ove | 0:57:08 | 0:57:16 | |
# Yeah. # | 0:57:16 | 0:57:17 | |
'Actually, playing, it's the only time I've ever really been alive in my whole life. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:41 | |
'It's, like, what I am.' | 0:57:41 | 0:57:43 | |
The rest of the time, I'm kind of like, you know, | 0:57:43 | 0:57:45 | |
sort of half alive | 0:57:45 | 0:57:49 | |
and as soon as I get plugged in, I go, "Ooh!" you know? | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
I come alive, until the next time. | 0:57:52 | 0:57:55 | |
Once the gig's over, it's a little buzz, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
and then you get really depressed until the next time. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:02 | |
So, yeah, my life is a search, a constant search for the next gig! | 0:58:02 | 0:58:08 | |
THEY PLAY "Sunshine Of Your Love" | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:45 | 0:58:49 |