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One Sunday morning, he went out with a mate to buy breakfast at Tesco's,

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and as he came out of the shop, he said to his friend,

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"You take the rolls back and I'll see you later."

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And that was the last anybody saw him.

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This was about the missing, about the people we might not know

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and that we can't see and that we can't find.

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There are all sorts of missing.

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The world is full of missing persons

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and their numbers increase all the time.

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The space they occupy lies somewhere between what we know about

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the ways of being alive and what we hear about the ways of being dead.

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We wander there. Unaccompanied and unknowable. Like shadows of people.

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Andrew O'Hagan's first book, The Missing,

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launched him to international acclaim.

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The book documented O'Hagan's investigations as a young journalist

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into why people in Britain go missing.

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The book slowly manifested into a very strange,

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episodic document that was both full of

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old-fashioned pavement pounding reporting,

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and a kind of meditation and memoir.

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It led him behind the tabloid headlines of notorious murder cases,

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to the unheard voices of the friends and families of the missing.

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Now the book is being adapted for the stage,

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in a production that will premiere at Tramway in Glasgow.

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It will be Andrew O'Hagan's first play.

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One of the things that really gives you energy in the theatre is the possibility of total failure.

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That book, The Missing, that I wrote a long time ago,

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it's a stable thing now, it's still in print, it's got its life.

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That I could ruin it somehow.

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Alongside the play will be a new artwork

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on the subject of the missing.

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It will be created by visual artist Graham Fagen.

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As a child, I thought pansies were beautiful.

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I loved the colour meld and mesh

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that you get in the face or head of a pansy.

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But I was very aware that if I told my peer group

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that the pansy was my favourite flower...

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LAUGHTER

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..I would be ridiculed just as I have been there.

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Graham Fagen has exhibited around the world with work in various

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disciplines, including photography, sculpture, performance art

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and video.

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His latest commission will mark

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the reopening of the Scottish National Portrait Gallery in Edinburgh,

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following two-and-a-half years of refurbishment.

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When we open our doors, people will expect to see Bonnie Prince Charlie,

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they'll expect to see Mary Queen of Scots,

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they'll expect to see Walter Scott - and they will -

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and they'll all be up on show. What they won't expect is to see missing people.

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It's great that the national galleries have had a really good think about this commission.

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It isn't the great and the good, it isn't the great Scots,

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it's the opposite end of that spectrum. It's people that are lost, people that are missing.

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As well as collaborators on the Missing project, Graham Fagen and Andrew O'Hagan

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have been friends since their childhood in the 1970s,

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when they were among the first residents of the new town of Irvine, in Ayrshire.

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'The other way in which Irvine differs from other new towns is that it's by the sea.'

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'The big advantage is that there's no possibility of anything like "new town blues" arriving here.'

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We left a tenement in Partick to go into a brand new house that,

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not only did it have an upstairs, not only were we the first people to be in it,

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-but it had a toilet upstairs AND a toilet downstairs.

-You were posh.

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We were very posh.

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I remember seeing a sketch on TV about working class, middle class and upper class,

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and I remember at that time thinking about my own situation,

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-and my conclusion was that our family belonged to the upper class.

-You wish!

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The estates were brilliant to be on then. The bins, playing in the bins.

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People say, "Oh, what a deprived, terrible time."

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There was nothing better than to be able to play, raking through the bins.

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And when the men came to take the bins away,

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you got a free holiday out of it to the midden!

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It was the only holiday we ever got, when the binmen took us to the midden,

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discovered that there wasn't only black bags in there, but a few kids as well.

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We will be building two-storey houses, each with its own back and front door,

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with a garden at the back,

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a place for the kids to play where Mum can watch them and they can play in safety.

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That illusion of security was shattered in April 1976,

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when three-year-old Sandy Davidson disappeared close to his family home.

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Sandy's younger sister, Donna, was just one-and-a-half at the time.

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We used to go through the fields looking for Sandy.

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Classrooms of kids used to go out and search the fields

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and other areas, because it was a big news story,

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but it was also a big thing in our minds.

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Everybody thought

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if they could only find this wee boy then it would be OK.

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One of the things I remember is Sandy's picture appearing in the paper at the time.

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-I was eight, I think you were...

-I was ten at that time.

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I guess that's how our generation remember and know about Sandy.

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It was the localness of it that made it

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part of our experience of growing up.

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It wasn't in the national press, it was in the Irvine Times.

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There was talk that maybe he had fell in the river.

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They dredged it, the frogmen searched it all and everything.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I think somebody has took him.

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What makes you think that?

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I just, I've just got a gut feeling that somebody took him.

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I think he's dead, I don't think he's alive.

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I've thought that for years.

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People have always said to me,

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"How would you feel if they did discover his body somewhere?"

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It would be hard but it would be a relief as well.

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Because then you know you can put him to rest

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and you can put your mind to rest.

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It's the not knowing that's the killer.

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The Sandy Davidson case is one of several featured in Andrew O'Hagan's new play,

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being produced by the National Theatre of Scotland.

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-What did he want to be?

-What did he want to be?

-Oh, a policeman. Definitely.

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The play is being staged by John Tiffany,

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who directed Black Watch, the National Theatre's biggest hit to date.

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I keep going back to the start.

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John Tiffany is a particularly taxing, exacting director.

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He's not the kind of guy who, you send your well made three-act play to and he just mounts a production.

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He's not that kind of director. He's famous for making the plays in the rehearsal room.

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What's good about there is it's not giving in to it.

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In terms of how the script's developed,

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he didn't leave himself out of the first draft,

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but he created another character who was a fictional seeker in the way that

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Andrew had been a seeker in The Missing.

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Every day you think, "I'm going to wake up and find he's here

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"and none of this has happened."

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But it felt as though we were trying to dramatise something,

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because we were creating a character,

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and that character had a story, and it was a story that we had to tell,

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and it didn't feel truthful or honest.

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You could look at the history of this. It's a hidden story, as I say.

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After the war it happened much less, what with the welfare state and that.

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-But recently...

-It's getting worse?

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I think so, yes. Back to the Victorian era.

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So I took Andrew out one night and said to him,

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"how would you feel about it being something much closer to you and what your experience was?"

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And of course, that's scary.

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It's easy for certain people to disappear.

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-Would you like a glass of water?

-No, I'm fine, I'm OK.

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It's weird that the person he's inhabiting is me.

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I'm still getting my head round that. It's quite odd to watch.

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This is actually quite harrowing material for a young man to hear.

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To be immersed in it every day, thinking about dead and missing people must have been massive.

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I think in the original situation I was in, my hand actually shook.

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It's very personal, the book is very personal, it's a real memoir in many ways.

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-Yeah.

-So you haven't been wondering it before she says it?

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No, no, no. In this moment I am wondering, "Did he..."

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-It just needs to go a bit deeper.

-Yeah, yeah, I get it.

-Great.

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John was very clear that he didn't want it to be the machinations

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of the writing of a book,

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because, dramatically, that's not very interesting for an audience.

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Seeing the character being affected by writing the book

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or the compulsion to write a book is more interesting.

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Where is this search for missing persons leading me?

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I write up my notes. They become sentences, phrases, ways of seeing.

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When I was a young teenager, I sort of went in the huff with my mum,

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and said, that was it, I was out of here.

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Fortunately for me, I lasted about an hour before I realised

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I had nowhere to go, and that home was the best place to go.

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PHONE RINGS

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Hello, Missing People.

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Of course, we all have those times when we want to slam the door,

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but when we talk about 100,000 children

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under 16 every year going missing,

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that's overnight, and every one of those children is at risk.

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Many of them end up in circumstances where they're sleeping rough,

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where, perhaps, they've found themselves being referred

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to a friend of a friend,

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and some of those friends of friends are not safe people.

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We know that there is a link between children going missing

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and sexual exploitation.

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Graham Fagen has come to the London office of the charity Missing People

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as part of the research for his artwork.

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-RECORDING:

-Missing People have been hugely important

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as emotional support and helping to coordinate, looking and searching

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for our son, and hopefully, to end up bringing him home.

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-RECORDING:

-He literally walked out of our house laughing,

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in such high spirits, and never came home again.

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-RECORDING:

-You sort of remember the things that Andrew likes to do.

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I can just picture him now, laid there, reading. Nice memories.

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If I start dealing with this on a personal level,

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I'm asking a personal question here, Martin.

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If I start trying to think about this on a personal level,

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it's very upsetting,

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and I'm trying to work on it in a matter-of-fact way.

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You're here every day. How do you cope, or how do you balance it?

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Every time people say to me, "It's just too difficult,

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"I don't want to imagine what would happen

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-"if my nine-year-old went missing."

-Sure.

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I think, that's, in some respects, what we have to do.

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Maybe the fact that it affects me, speaking professionally,

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is maybe a good sign.

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It's maybe a sign that I'm dealing with it seriously, and,

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hopefully, I can deal with it in a compassionate and meaningful way.

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Sometimes it just hits you so badly,

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that it's like a huge black cloud over everything.

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In 2006, Alan Templeton went out shopping for groceries

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near his Edinburgh flat.

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He has not been seen since.

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I find early morning, if I wake up, is the worst time.

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I have to fight myself, fight my imagination,

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to stop visualising him

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in some terrible situation, where he's frightened, or lonely, or ill,

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and that's not being attended to,

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and nobody's picking up on it.

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If a letter comes in for him, which still, after five years,

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sometimes happens, that is absolutely gut-wrenching,

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having to write to whoever has written, saying,

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"well, Alan hasn't been seen for nearly five years," is awful.

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He spent whatever money he had on records.

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First of all it was Shakin' Stevens, wasn't it?

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Then it was Whitney Houston,

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and then it was the one with the red hair, T'Pau.

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-Do you remember, Pete?

-He was 15.

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I am continually purifying, in theatrical terms,

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this relationship between documentary and fiction.

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The stories are very authentic, they're people stories,

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and that's why they're so great to play, because these things actually happened,

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they were conversations that actually have taken place.

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It feels very authentic and very real.

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Today, the company are rehearsing a scene based on Andrew O'Hagan's

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original interview with the parents of another missing boy, Lee Boxall.

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Everywhere, everywhere you can think of.

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And the press moves on, everybody moves on.

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Police in London say they're now extremely concerned

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for the safety of the 15-year-old schoolboy, Lee Boxall.

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Lee disappeared a week ago on his way to a football match.

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Lee Boxall left his home in Cheam last Saturday. It's thought

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he was heading for either the Wimbledon or Crystal Palace grounds.

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He hasn't been seen since.

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What I'm saying, is it stronger, whether some people would say it was the perfect childhood?

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Well, that's true. And just leave it at that.

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Yeah, and you're a bit like...

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-Some people would say it was the perfect childhood.

-Yes, that's true.

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Well, Mrs Boxall's somebody who is stuck in a time warp,

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really, of grief, but also hope.

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She cannot accept that her son has disappeared,

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because there's no body or anything.

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-They were looking everywhere.

-Everywhere.

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-Everywhere you could think.

-Didn't sleep at all,

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we just sat up waiting for a ring at the doorbell.

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-We were just waiting.

-By the telephone. It was like a nightmare.

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I mean, every day, you'd think...

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Every day, you'd think, "I'm going to wake up and find he's here,

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"and none of this has happened."

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The fact that the young writer, Joe's character, turns up,

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is hope, to keep the interest going.

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Because as she says in it, the worst thing is

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when the press stop being interested.

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That's the worst time for these people,

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because it's like it's past, and it's gone.

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Well, it isn't gone for them.

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And it never will be for her.

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I'd ring the newspapers,

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I'd phone them and I'd ask them to print something.

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I remember one of them saying,

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"I'm sorry, Mrs Boxall, he's just another missing child."

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We don't know, to this day, what happened to him in September 1988.

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We don't know whether he's alive, we don't know whether he's dead.

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If he is alive, why hasn't he contacted us?

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If he's been murdered, perhaps, how did it happen, and why?

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Where is his body? All these questions are unanswered.

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Until the time comes, if it ever comes before we die,

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that we find out if he'd been, say, killed in an accident,

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at least we'd know what happened to him.

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Graham Fagen's artwork on The Missing will take the form of a video installation.

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I've decided to use my own home. I'm thinking what the experience

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might be like for a family to go through those sorts of emotions,

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of the experience that someone has gone missing.

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So, for example, I've been using very simple things,

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like maybe a shot of the mantelpiece,

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and what we would do is pay attention

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to what was on my mantelpiece, and wonder why it was there,

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and, maybe accept it.

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If something is usually there, and it's not, then I'll add it.

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If it looks too set up, too contrived, I'll jig it about to try

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and make it part of the house.

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Just have a seat there and just watch the telly.

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That's all you need to do.

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-I sleep, I usually sleep and watch the telly.

-No swearing.

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That's when I shouldn't be speaking, where I was actually speaking,

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and get a row for speaking, and get a row laughing.

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I shouldn't be laughing here.

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I could never understand the art things, or the sculptures

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when he was doing it a wee years ago,

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so he just, "OK, you're doing good now.

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"You enjoying it? Yes, that's fine. OK, you carry on."

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I think, for me, to understand the subject area properly,

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and to have that sense of compassion on the subject area,

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I need to be using people that are close to me,

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even though they're unknown to the viewers in the gallery.

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My dad wanted to film us, and he was making silly faces

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so we could laugh at it.

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I never fell for it. Thomas did.

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I was like, "What the heck are you doing?"

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And we both shouted, "This is lame, stop it."

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If he asks me to do anything,

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I generally do it to give him a hand and help him through.

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As long as he puts a bottle of whisky on the end, you know, that's it!

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There's public faces as well as the private faces,

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and one of the public faces that I'm probably going to use

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is Madeleine McCann.

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I guess, to do with her as a person, and missing in her own right,

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but probably as well as a kind of symbol of missing.

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Could you take Kate's book, Elspeth?

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Just sit and read it, and I'll move round you,

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you don't need to go anywhere.

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I'm going to be close on the book, I'm not going to be on you.

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It seems that the most appropriate way to bring Madeleine in

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is to bring her into my home in some kind of way.

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I thought about maybe using newspaper or TV footage,

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but Kate, her mum, has just brought a book out.

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I'm going to bring Kate's book about Madeleine into the house

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and find it in parts of the house through my journey with the camera.

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When you're dealing with this subject,

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sometimes what people are experiencing is unspeakable.

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I think the grief is so, it's so unspeakably horrendous

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that there's no words that can articulate it.

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If you dwelt on it you'd be awake at night.

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That's what you see when you look at this case,

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they could come here and live in bedsits.

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-And nobody knew they were here?

-They could be done away with.

-Yeah.

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What does that mean?

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-That's for other people to answer.

-That's for us!

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-Don't quote me on any of this.

-No, you're right.

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You won't be able to quote me on any of this!

0:23:350:23:38

-Shall we go back?

-It was that thing of almost knowing it.

0:23:400:23:44

I'm just learning the lines and muddling through it.

0:23:460:23:50

-They're not asking the right questions.

-Who?

0:23:500:23:52

Us, the reporters, we're not asking the one question we should be asking.

0:23:520:23:55

And what's the right question?

0:23:550:23:57

I'm playing two policeman.

0:23:570:23:59

One, a younger policeman. One, an older one.

0:23:590:24:03

I'm playing Mr Boxall whose son went missing

0:24:030:24:07

and I'm playing an old woman, which is how I see my career going.

0:24:070:24:12

That's what they did. They found him dead, poor soul. What a state.

0:24:120:24:16

I'll tell you something for nothing, though.

0:24:160:24:19

You need to watch your van. They'll tow you as soon as look at you,

0:24:190:24:23

those men and their big woolly hats under their work hats.

0:24:230:24:26

Traffic wardens. Nigerians.

0:24:260:24:29

They come over here, they hardly know what a car is where they come from.

0:24:290:24:33

He's got men playing women, he's got women playing men,

0:24:330:24:36

he's got old people playing young people.

0:24:360:24:38

It's a really amazing thing to watch. There's a fluidity

0:24:380:24:41

about the identity of these characters that John's homed in on.

0:24:410:24:45

That seems wholly appropriate to me.

0:24:450:24:47

It strengthens the audience's experience, I hope,

0:24:470:24:50

of how unfixed people really are,

0:24:500:24:53

how untethered to the world they can be.

0:24:530:24:56

-And then he got a date to go up to court.

-Court?!

-That's right.

0:24:570:25:03

He stole a pair of gloves.

0:25:030:25:06

What kind of daft thing is that to steal out of a shop, a pair of gloves?

0:25:060:25:10

Did you ever know anybody that stole gloves?

0:25:100:25:13

I want some battered trainers for you, John. I don't like those.

0:25:130:25:16

-They don't seem right, do they?

-Have you spoken to your inner Mr Bennett?

0:25:160:25:20

I've spoken to my inner Mr Bennett.

0:25:200:25:23

One pair of my shoes, Mr Bennett's shoes, we haven't got yet.

0:25:230:25:26

So I'm using these in rehearsal,

0:25:260:25:31

but it's quite clear to us now he's lost all interest in himself, really.

0:25:310:25:35

So they're not going to be very glamorous shoes for Mr Bennett.

0:25:350:25:40

But if you want to come over there, I'll show you the glamorous shoes I get to wear.

0:25:400:25:45

I liked the idea that all they changed was the shoes,

0:25:450:25:48

so when we come to a new character, you know,

0:25:480:25:50

Brian playing an old lady would put on a pair of cerise slippers.

0:25:500:25:54

The audience would learn very quickly to go,

0:25:540:25:56

"Ooh, what shoes are they wearing? That's going to give me a clue as to the character."

0:25:560:26:01

These are my shoes.

0:26:020:26:05

They're a fair height.

0:26:050:26:07

They're becoming very important to us, the shoes.

0:26:070:26:10

-And then he got a date to go up to court.

-Court?!

-That's right.

0:26:100:26:16

He stole a pair of shoes.

0:26:170:26:19

What kind of daft thing is that to steal out of a shop, a pair of shoes?

0:26:190:26:23

-A pair of shoes...

-Gloves, wasn't it?!

0:26:230:26:27

Sorry.

0:26:270:26:29

A pair of shoes.

0:26:290:26:30

(That's your fault. That's your fault.)

0:26:300:26:34

The second part of Graham Fagen's artwork will be constructed around

0:26:490:26:53

a journey starting from Irvine, Graham's childhood home.

0:26:530:26:57

Usually, when I'm making a video work, I work with a small crew.

0:26:590:27:03

What was interesting for The Missing was maybe not to do a journey

0:27:030:27:07

with a crew in tow, but maybe just me with a camera.

0:27:070:27:11

And maybe I became this sort of character

0:27:130:27:17

that was on the journey, or certainly,

0:27:170:27:19

the lens of my camera became this character that was on the journey.

0:27:190:27:23

Obviously, the start place, I'm thinking about this seascape,

0:27:280:27:32

I guess to use the seascape as something that's quite open,

0:27:320:27:36

perhaps optimistic, but looking beyond,

0:27:360:27:39

looking out there to a future or the possibility of going yourself.

0:27:390:27:45

So the viewers are seeing my camera, probably roundabout there,

0:27:480:27:54

jigging about as I'm walking.

0:27:540:27:55

So it's almost like trying to take the viewer to that place.

0:27:550:28:00

That kind of feel or that kind of aesthetic is going to be

0:28:000:28:04

quite important as a vehicle for trying to get

0:28:040:28:07

to the emotional side of the subject.

0:28:070:28:09

There were signs that at one stage she might have tried

0:28:140:28:16

to escape from her attacker,

0:28:160:28:18

run up that embankment and been dragged back.

0:28:180:28:21

The murder hunt began.

0:28:210:28:23

Police combed the backcourt and the railway embankment.

0:28:230:28:26

They questioned nearly 900 people in the Barrowland that night

0:28:260:28:30

and the following night.

0:28:300:28:31

As she says, the Barrowland was the place to be.

0:28:310:28:36

-It was that.

-What would the young ones say? The in-place, that's right.

0:28:360:28:41

It was the in-place to be.

0:28:410:28:42

Half the men in there were married, mind you. Is that not right, Jeannie?

0:28:420:28:46

Aye, married. Taking off their wedding rings and sticking it in their pockets,

0:28:460:28:49

that was the Barrowland for you.

0:28:490:28:51

It's amazing to see how the actors are playing it,

0:28:510:28:54

because they find comedy in this situation

0:28:540:28:58

as well as very deep tragedy.

0:28:580:29:00

ARCHIVE RECORDING: Inside the ballroom, sometime after 11 o'clock,

0:29:000:29:05

Helen Puttock, who was seen with a tall man who had reddish hair.

0:29:050:29:08

He was polite, well-spoken, did not appear to do heavy manual work

0:29:080:29:13

and might make reference to the Bible.

0:29:130:29:16

Newspapers dubbed him Bible John.

0:29:160:29:20

-A right cold night.

-There was a freeze on.

0:29:200:29:23

This is a scene in the play where the young writer tells the story

0:29:230:29:28

of Bible John and the influence that that killer had in Glasgow.

0:29:280:29:34

It intercuts his researching, that story, with his meeting

0:29:340:29:40

and interviewing the sister of the third victim and her friend, Marion.

0:29:400:29:46

Marion, previously, was wearing a pair of quite fancy gold high heels,

0:29:470:29:52

but we were slightly concerned that they looked a bit Saturday night

0:29:520:29:56

as opposed to meeting a journalist to talk about someone you knew

0:29:560:30:02

in the '60s who was murdered by Bible John.

0:30:020:30:05

So the gold shoes, unfortunately, got substituted.

0:30:050:30:10

I remember checking the prices of the high heels in the window of Gordon's shoe shop.

0:30:100:30:15

In number 64?

0:30:150:30:17

This is a map that we got from the Mitchell Library

0:30:170:30:20

of the East End of Glasgow, around the Barrowlands and Trongate from 1969,

0:30:200:30:24

which is the year that Helen was killed by Bible John.

0:30:240:30:27

It's cold but we weren't in a hurry.

0:30:270:30:29

We stopped and looked in the window of the pawnbrokers.

0:30:290:30:32

As I press play on there,

0:30:320:30:34

it goes on to there and then there are certain actions...

0:30:340:30:37

-We looked in the window of the pawn shop.

-215 Gallowgate.

0:30:380:30:43

So you're pointing that way. George Square, more north, Joe.

0:30:430:30:46

For the finished production of Tramway,

0:30:460:30:49

images like these will be projected onto a screen 15 feet high.

0:30:490:30:53

Obviously, I'm not controlling the screen,

0:30:530:30:56

but we want to give the appearance that I am making it all move around,

0:30:560:30:59

so it's very much like a dance.

0:30:590:31:02

I have to learn the counts of when to touch it, when to move it.

0:31:020:31:06

The other one, Helen's one, stuck with them

0:31:060:31:08

and went in the taxi towards Scotstoun.

0:31:080:31:10

'It's something I quite enjoy as an actor,'

0:31:100:31:12

learning all that. Some actors, it drives them nuts.

0:31:120:31:15

But I quite like it, the challenge.

0:31:150:31:18

We'll see if it goes well or not.

0:31:180:31:20

If you do that, then...

0:31:210:31:23

HE LAUGHS

0:31:230:31:25

If it doesn't, then I'll be running for the hills.

0:31:250:31:29

Graham Fagen's journey has taken him to London,

0:31:350:31:39

the end of the line for many of the missing.

0:31:390:31:42

Maybe it's about that searching, searching for something else,

0:31:460:31:49

searching for hopes, searching for something that's better,

0:31:490:31:53

searching for a new beginning, perhaps.

0:31:530:31:56

People think that they can come to London and try and have that and try and get that.

0:31:560:32:00

It's a bit of a cliche, London, where the streets, in theory,

0:32:030:32:07

are paved with gold.

0:32:070:32:08

Even people that work here find life in London tough.

0:32:200:32:24

If you're coming here lost and vulnerable

0:32:240:32:27

then there's people here who could easily prey on that.

0:32:270:32:31

It's probably the most inconspicuous that I've felt with the camera.

0:32:590:33:03

I'm surrounded by hundreds and thousands of people here,

0:33:080:33:11

but I feel quite autonomous and alone.

0:33:110:33:15

We're just on the edge of Soho.

0:33:260:33:29

We're at Piccadilly Circus.

0:33:290:33:31

When it gets dark, I'm going to move into Soho to do some walking about.

0:33:310:33:35

I guess what I'm thinking is that'll be the end of the journey.

0:33:350:33:40

A girl who I knew quite well in Glasgow,

0:33:480:33:50

she was in our company quite a lot, our peer group,

0:33:500:33:54

and she disappeared.

0:33:540:33:57

She didn't tell anybody that she was going to disappear or go anywhere.

0:33:570:34:01

It's just she wasn't around any more.

0:34:010:34:03

A good few months after, I was down in Soho with my girlfriend

0:34:050:34:11

and there was a record store and I was flicking through the records.

0:34:110:34:14

And Elspeth said, "There's our friend."

0:34:140:34:18

She could see her standing in the doorway.

0:34:180:34:21

So I said, "Oh, yeah. Let's go and say hello."

0:34:210:34:24

And she looked up and saw us

0:34:240:34:27

and went into the doorway that she was standing at.

0:34:270:34:30

She was obviously working.

0:34:330:34:35

She was obviously working in a trade

0:34:350:34:37

that she didn't want us to know about.

0:34:370:34:40

People like that make a very deliberate choice.

0:34:420:34:45

They want to go missing, perhaps. They want to find their own space.

0:34:450:34:50

Maybe they need to go away from the place that's familiar

0:34:500:34:54

in order to be who they feel they need to be.

0:34:540:34:57

We're not asking the one question we should all be asking.

0:35:020:35:05

And what's the question?

0:35:050:35:07

Well, nine young women's bodies have been found, right? And I've checked,

0:35:070:35:11

-hardly any of them are reported as missing.

-That's correct.

0:35:110:35:16

Well, that's the question. Why weren't they reported?

0:35:160:35:19

As a young journalist, Andrew O'Hagan was sent to Gloucester

0:35:220:35:27

to cover the discovery of human remains found at the family home

0:35:270:35:30

of serial killers Fred and Rosemary West.

0:35:300:35:33

The Wellington Arms, I did a few interviews in there.

0:35:350:35:38

It was a rough pub, closed down now.

0:35:380:35:44

The old place had that atmosphere of sort of lostness.

0:35:450:35:50

I remember writing that in my notepad at the time,

0:35:500:35:53

how depressed it seemed here.

0:35:530:35:56

-TV REPORTER:

-With the expectation that more human remains may yet been found,

0:35:590:36:03

the house in Cromwell Street

0:36:030:36:04

is still the centre of the police operation.

0:36:040:36:07

Body number seven was discovered in the cellar,

0:36:070:36:09

like three found earlier.

0:36:090:36:11

The first three bodies were unearthed in the garden.

0:36:110:36:15

I was looking to explain how it's plausible in a civilised society,

0:36:150:36:21

one with a welfare state, one with a social work department,

0:36:210:36:26

with a sense of community.

0:36:260:36:29

What was it in a community constructed like that,

0:36:290:36:32

that would allow so many of those women to go missing and never have been missed?

0:36:320:36:37

Did you know any of the girls? The victims?

0:36:370:36:40

-I don't know any girls like that.

-Like that?

0:36:400:36:46

They should knock it down.

0:36:460:36:48

There it is.

0:36:540:36:57

The gap.

0:36:580:37:00

It's not a gap in anybody's memory, though.

0:37:020:37:04

-TV REPORTER:

-Juanita Mott was an unemployed 17-year-old

0:37:190:37:23

when she left nearby Newent to travel to Gloucester in April 1975.

0:37:230:37:28

She never returned.

0:37:280:37:30

Lynda Gough was a 19-year-old seamstress in Gloucester

0:37:300:37:33

who was last seen in April 1973.

0:37:330:37:36

Police enquiries at the time came to nothing.

0:37:360:37:38

And Alison Chambers was 16 when she moved to the city in 1979.

0:37:380:37:43

Her mother received an unaddressed letter later that year,

0:37:430:37:46

but Alison herself was never heard from again.

0:37:460:37:49

They had lives, parents, boyfriends, doctors, right?

0:38:000:38:04

Nobody noticed they'd gone?! And for all these years?

0:38:040:38:08

They were able just to pick them off.

0:38:080:38:10

-They were easy to kill, somehow. Nobody noticed.

-Easy to kill?

0:38:100:38:14

-And the Wests knew how to home in on girls like that. The unattached.

-The missing?

-The killable.

0:38:140:38:20

That word rung around my head, and has been

0:38:200:38:22

ringing around my head all the time I've been writing the play.

0:38:220:38:25

Killable. I wrote it in my notepad and scored it under several times.

0:38:250:38:30

They were able to come here, live in bedsits and...

0:38:300:38:33

-And nobody knew they were here?

-They could be done away with.

0:38:330:38:37

What does that mean?

0:38:390:38:41

-That's for other people to answer.

-It's for us!

0:38:410:38:46

Don't quote me on any of this.

0:38:460:38:48

These girls were part of the non-elect. They were killable.

0:38:480:38:53

Through economics, social factors,

0:38:530:38:57

psychological trends in their own family, but also, societal trends.

0:38:570:39:04

They were actually forgettable. And they WERE forgotten.

0:39:040:39:07

-And you never saw her that day?

-Not any day. Not that day, not any day.

0:39:090:39:16

-And you never went to the police?

-Some of us aren't like that.

0:39:160:39:20

We don't go to the police.

0:39:200:39:22

-And, erm...? And then...

-Then she turned up.

0:39:240:39:31

Years later, in the basement of that house.

0:39:310:39:33

They've actually knocked two houses down here, number 23, which was beside number 25.

0:39:410:39:47

The house of horrors, as all the papers called it at the time.

0:39:470:39:51

What was enacted here was unspeakable. And I think it still haunts everybody

0:39:530:39:59

who ever had anything to do with the case, and anybody who was in this street.

0:39:590:40:03

More female remains were discovered in this field

0:40:160:40:20

by the village of Much Marcle, where Fred West had grown up.

0:40:200:40:24

We know that the women whose remains were found in Cromwell Street,

0:40:360:40:41

in this field, and at Midland Road in Gloucester,

0:40:410:40:44

where there's always been suggestions there were many more.

0:40:440:40:47

And they, in a sense, are the ultimate figures in my mind,

0:40:470:40:54

as far as The Missing, the book and the play goes,

0:40:540:40:57

these people who were not only never reported as missing,

0:40:570:41:00

but never confirmed as having been victims at all.

0:41:000:41:05

They just vanished into thin air, and I strongly believe that this field and fields like it

0:41:050:41:10

all around this part of Gloucester may contain secrets that we will never find.

0:41:100:41:14

-CHURCH BELL TOLLS

-The image is so powerful anyway,

0:41:250:41:29

and then to give it extra attention with the gong, it's almost too much.

0:41:290:41:35

I don't know. I don't know how you feel about it. So...

0:41:350:41:42

With the journey now complete,

0:41:420:41:44

Graham Fagen is bringing his ideas together with the help of a film editor.

0:41:440:41:49

From what we did before, these images have changed,

0:41:490:41:52

and there's been slight...

0:41:520:41:53

-OK. Cut here.

-That's what I was asking, if you wanted the code.

0:41:530:41:59

To reflect contrasting aspects of The Missing,

0:41:590:42:03

the artwork will be seen in two synchronised parts on two separate screens.

0:42:030:42:09

So what's been tough for me is,

0:42:090:42:11

I've been able to see one screen at a time,

0:42:110:42:14

and on bits of paper, I try and put these two things together.

0:42:140:42:21

Two stories would work separately, and when you have them together,

0:42:240:42:27

suddenly there was a new story, and suddenly, shots that feel

0:42:270:42:30

very lonely on their own

0:42:300:42:32

-suddenly came in and looked completely different.

-Yeah.

0:42:320:42:35

Somebody's living room contrasted with, I don't know,

0:42:350:42:38

the streets in London, it sets up that dynamic.

0:42:380:42:42

Hopefully it will be very easy for a viewer at the gallery

0:42:420:42:45

to know they're in a public place but they're also in a private place.

0:42:450:42:49

What I'm thinking of doing in the gallery is arranging the screens in such a way that

0:42:490:42:54

so as one as may be viewed in kind of peripheral vision to the other,

0:42:540:42:58

so the viewers need to make a decision and actually physically

0:42:580:43:04

move themselves to look at one place or to look at the other place.

0:43:040:43:07

The other thing that we're starting to find as we're seeing the two screens together

0:43:090:43:14

is sound starts to become very interesting.

0:43:140:43:16

CHURCH BELL TOLLS

0:43:160:43:20

It's got the Six O'Clock News sting, hasn't it?

0:43:200:43:24

And of course, we don't have to have the bong on the cut.

0:43:240:43:28

Well, that was one of my first thoughts, should we take the first bong?

0:43:280:43:32

-And then go for the one after.

-Yeah.

-Shall we try?

-Try it?

-Sure.

0:43:320:43:38

MUSIC PLAYS AND BELL TOLLS

0:43:380:43:42

I've just realised that I used to come here as a kid when it was the Transport Museum.

0:43:570:44:01

-Oh, right.

-I'm pretty sure. It brings back a lot of memories.

0:44:010:44:06

The production team of The Missing has moved to Tramway.

0:44:060:44:10

And tonight is their dress rehearsal.

0:44:100:44:12

The spider that's running the floods, just like run it

0:44:120:44:16

so it doesn't look as hateful.

0:44:160:44:18

We just need to decide what surface it's supposed to be.

0:44:270:44:31

-Are you looking for a different surface from that?

-Yes, that and that.

0:44:310:44:35

There should be three different textures.

0:44:350:44:39

But at Tramway,

0:44:460:44:48

it's not just the play that is only a day away from facing the critics.

0:44:480:44:52

So, we're across the corridor from T1, which is the theatre.

0:44:540:44:59

And this is the gallery space I'll be showing Missing.

0:44:590:45:03

We're getting there, slowly but surely.

0:45:030:45:06

OK, so, the screens are here, they've just arrived,

0:45:060:45:11

they're in these crates. So, they don't look like very much.

0:45:110:45:16

But they are very expensive.

0:45:160:45:22

To complete the set-up of his art installation,

0:45:220:45:26

Graham Fagen needs to make some last-minute adjustments to the film.

0:45:260:45:30

But first, he must wait for his editor to arrive.

0:45:300:45:33

We still have some technical problems that we want to solve over the next 24 hours.

0:45:400:45:44

There's still a black panel there on the LED which shouldn't be there.

0:45:440:45:48

-Those lights went out.

-Got a taxi this morning to come to the Tramway,

0:45:480:45:53

and halfway along the motorway, I shrieked to the taxi driver,

0:45:530:45:58

said, "I've forgotten the cello!"

0:45:580:46:00

I think it's called actress slowly losing marbles.

0:46:000:46:03

There's one or two imbalances in the sound

0:46:100:46:13

that we're going to have to attend to over the next few hours.

0:46:130:46:17

And the actors too have one or two little changes still

0:46:170:46:20

that need to be absorbed by them in the script.

0:46:200:46:22

This is purely a theatrical experience that people are getting with this.

0:46:260:46:30

And me too, for the first time tonight.

0:46:300:46:32

DRILLING AND HAMMERING

0:46:410:46:46

Let's see what we've got here.

0:47:000:47:02

Yeah, yeah, we can have that one.

0:47:020:47:03

So, what you're saying is, you want the previous dialogue to continue?

0:47:070:47:12

Laurie, I need both hands, just a second.

0:47:120:47:14

HE LAUGHS

0:47:140:47:16

Sorry. Just for a while!

0:47:160:47:19

So we're still hearing "You scummy bastard." Oh, sorry, Laurie.

0:47:190:47:25

-You didn't hear that, did you?

-THEY LAUGH

0:47:250:47:29

The dress rehearsal is about to start. And it's the last chance

0:47:290:47:33

for Joe McFadden to practice with the full-sized screen.

0:47:330:47:37

It's bigger than I thought it was going to be.

0:47:370:47:40

I might be jumping up in the air. It's very impressive.

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We told him how Helen and me are going down the coast!

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They went under the bridge at Central Station!

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Up the Hielenman's Umbrella!

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Then after a drink at the tavern, up to the Barrowlands.

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To the dance hall! Address showing as 244...

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I had always hoped that the technology that's in this production

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wouldn't overwhelm the basic, human material in the script.

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This is really all about the characters.

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It's about Mrs Boxall sitting on the edge of her sofa,

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trying to maintain a sense that her son, Lee,

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who disappeared five years before, is still alive.

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The whole question is evoked in images, in lighting

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and absences on stage.

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# Here I am... #

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In a sense, the cello is the protagonist of the soundtrack.

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# Here I am... #

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Particularly Brigit's presence on stage, as well as playing,

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just presents this almost ghostly, haunting quality.

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It's about solitude and aloneness as well as loneliness.

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# Here I am

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# Here I am

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# Waiting to hold you. #

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APPLAUSE

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Some people love this production.

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Other people find reasons not to. That's the way it goes.

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I'm quite happy to take it on the chin. You can't sit around

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crying into your cornflakes about what critics are going to say.

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I've never done it so far and I'm not going to start with this. HE PRETENDS TO SOB

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It's opening night at Tramway.

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But the critics won't be the only ones reviewing the work.

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Graham Fagen and Andrew O'Hagan

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will be seeing each other's completed projects for the first time.

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-I don't know any girls like that.

-Like that?

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They should knock it down.

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CHILD CRIES OUT

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MECHANICAL WHIRRING

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Graham's piece is full of a sense of motion on the one hand

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and stillness on the other.

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It's full of a sense of belonging on the one hand

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to a domestic space, to a family, to a duvet, on the one hand,

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and on the other, lostness, the sense of urban chaos, neon lights,

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people constantly moving away from where they belong.

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The two together are quite moving.

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It's a question that I'm sure we all ask ourselves -

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why does somebody go missing?

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What's it like? And through Graham's piece of work,

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you actually saw first-hand what it was like.

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You actually see through the eyes of a missing person,

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so you see somebody walking away from their home, into a town centre,

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and it looks very much like a town centre that they don't know. It's somewhere new to them.

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But it also didn't cast any judgment.

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It didn't say that that was right or wrong, that there was reasons,

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and I think the piece really left you with a sense of every story is different.

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I was very struck by these images of bin bags, for example,

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litter on the ground, where you got the sense of

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the kind of debris that's around emotionally when somebody's not there.

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In a world that's filled with disappearing things...

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-A wee boy.

-That's right.

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'Sandy Davidson, who went missing from Irvine, of course,

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'who Andy and I remember, and Sandy is one of the main'

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points of reference through the play.

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That was hard. That's probably why I'm feeling sad.

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-That wee boy, Sandy.

-That's right. Sandy Davidson.

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That boy was two years old when he went missing.

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I remember his face, it's imprinted in my memory.

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I think a lot of people were like that at the time.

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Just a wee blond-haired, blue-eyed boy.

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It learned everybody a lesson that when children went out,

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even to the door, they were watching where they were going

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and where they were, just round you.

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It was a very, very sad time for everybody.

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The wee boy went into the garden with his dog.

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It was a warm day and his coat was found on the path by the river.

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'It's a detective story in search of himself,'

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in which he himself becomes like one of these lost boys, in a way.

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But out of that comes something much bigger

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that looks at a society that can be so displaced itself

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that it can allow people to slip through the cracks in the way it's done.

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I think the word that stays with me after the play is this word, killability.

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Just the fact that in society we have people who are

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so vulnerable that they can be described as having this killability.

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That's one of the gut feelings I'm leaving with tonight, is that feeling of helplessness.

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If you're right, then how do you become killable?

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-That's for other people to answer.

-No, it's for us.

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-Don't quote me on any of this.

-Is that what it's about?

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As I say, it's just us talking.

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I think the fact that an entire evening of theatre is devoted

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to thinking about those people is in a sense a kind of tribute

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and a way of mourning,

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and that therefore you accept the different ways that people

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describe the people they have lost.

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I think it is really possible for art to almost enhance the way you feel,

0:54:420:54:49

but somehow to have images that almost anchor

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some of the emotions, I found really helpful.

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I felt positive after seeing the play

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and I felt positive after seeing the installation.

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Graham Fagen's Missing will join the permanent collection

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of the Scottish National Portrait Gallery in Edinburgh.

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The play of The Missing also looks set to travel beyond Tramway.

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I'm 100% positive this will have another life.

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I think it's really important to start off with

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the communities that this play is about in Scotland.

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I'm really hoping we'll be able to take this play

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to those new towns, first of all, and then see what the response is

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and definitely take it on a tour further afield from there.

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Both projects are over for now.

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But the families of the missing go on waiting.

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When I saw you last in this room,

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Lee had been missing for five years, and now for 21 years.

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It's clearly important to you to keep things here for Lee...

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..in case he comes back.

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That's the hope. We always hope that one day he'll come back

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and his room is just the same.

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I mean, his clothes obviously won't fit him, but we've kept it, everything.

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When you came here to talk about Lee with us,

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Lee's room was almost as it was the day he disappeared.

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Covered with posters, but as time goes by, the posters,

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one by one, they've started to fall off.

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You know, with the passing of time, things change.

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The biggest change is that our daughter Lindsey is now married.

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She has two little children

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and we love them to bits.

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-So that's opened up a whole new side of your lives?

-Yes, absolutely.

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I've retired early so I can spend more time with our grandchildren.

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-That's your excuse!

-Yeah, that's my excuse!

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We've got to focus on them, and my daughter,

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-to help us through.

-Sure.

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Subconsciously, I don't know whether I'm imagining it's Lee that's come back to us somehow,

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but sometimes I even call him Lee.

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Me, too, it's really strange, because he's so much like Lee.

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Not looking...

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That memory of Lee living here will never leave us.

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I think...

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recognising that human beings are people who are fragile

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and vulnerable, even if they're also strong and sturdy

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and capable and competent,

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is one of the truthful things about being human

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that I wish we recognised more commonly.

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