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There is the country where heroes are made... | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
Biggest comic creatives in the world right now, biggest superheroes creatives, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
they're all from Scotland. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
..it's home to super men | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
and to dastardly villains... | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
Without exaggerating, Grant Morrison and Mark Millar | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
are The Beatles and Rolling Stones of comics. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
It's a weird thing to spend your days coming up with menaces for Superman to face. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
..and it's a lot closer than Gotham or Metropolis. They're already here! | 0:00:40 | 0:00:48 | |
They live amongst us! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Out there! | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
EVIL CACKLE | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
-AMERICAN ACCENT: -'My first gig for the Caledonian Planet, and Chief had given me a tough assignment - | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
'to track down Scotland's comic book heroes.' | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
Naw, don't need the American accent. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
'Because, this country has changed the superhero universe forever.' | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
Scottish creatives made Batman bonkers, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
and Superman a Socialist. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
Writers and artists began at mild mannered DC Thomson of Dundee... | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
and ended up the heroes of New York's DC Comics | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
They sell millions around the world, Hollywood can't get enough of them | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
and this rookie reporter wants to know how we transformed into super-Scotland? | 0:02:13 | 0:02:20 | |
Hello, Scott Symbol. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
Yes, Chief, I'm right on it. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Yes, sir, it's an amazing story. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
I hit the streets | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
looking for the Lycra literati. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
'My first stop - a small Glasgow comic shop.' | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
'The whole place seemed to besotted by one guy - | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
'comic writer Mark Millar. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
'So I wondered if he'd ever created a hero?' | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
The first one I did was Wanted, it was a big Angelina Jolie movie, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
and I did Kick-Ass, starring Nicholas Cage, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
and I think there's about five in development at the moment. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
I'm doing one with Tony Scott, the man who did Top Gun, called Nemesis, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
I'm doing a new one called Superior with the director of Kick-Ass | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
and another one called American Jesus. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
Over at Sony, I've got War Heroes | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
and I'm sure there's another, but I can't remember right now. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
It turns out, that Scotland's Mark Millar is one-man hero factory. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
His comics Kick Ass and Wanted | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
have both been turned into movies, and between them, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
have taken over 450 million at the box office. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
And when Hollywood need to give their superheroes a gallus Glasgow swagger, they call Mark. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:51 | |
But whilst his films have brought him fame, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
he's always been, first and foremost, a comics writer. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
I've been writing comics since I was 19, I've been doing the job all that time and I love it. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
I got to write all these characters I loved as a kid, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
and there's a tremendous joy to doing that, you know, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
somebody you dressed up as, as a kid, in Coatbridge... | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
I made an Iron Man suit when I was seven or eight, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
so to actually sit and figure out his future is really exciting. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:21 | |
But in comics, you can say what you want and inside a few weeks what was in your head | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
can be being read by someone in the world. It's the last pirate medium. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
'Everywhere I looked there were Scottish comics - | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
'sophisticated, sad, strange and sinister comics. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
'And this is no longer just for Glasgow geeks or Fife freaks.' | 0:04:41 | 0:04:47 | |
'We looked for legitimacy from the arts crowd in the '80s and '90s | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
'and now realise we don't need them, we're so much bigger than them. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
'All the metropolitan intelligentsia in London and so on' | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
who would always be quite disdainful of graphic novels | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
and not put them in review sections, we sell 100 times more, you know? | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
We don't need them. They're the niche, we are the mainstream. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
Hollywood changed the comics industry, which was amazing for guys like us, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
because we went from being in a despised medium to being in something that's quite cool. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
But when it comes to creating comic heroes, writing isn't the full story. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
In a grubby building in the shadow of Glasgow's central station... | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
the Gods are made. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
This guy is Frank Quitely | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
who is, quite frankly, one of the most sought after comic artists on the planet. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
Most people would probably imagine that American comics are written and drawn by Americans. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:47 | |
A few times over the years I've had people's genuine reaction | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
when they've found out that I draw comic books, they say, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
"Oh, are they drawn?!" | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
"I mean, I know they're drawn, but I never actually thought, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
"I've never thought | 0:06:01 | 0:06:02 | |
"that somebody would sit and draw all those pictures." | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
You think, "How do you think they got there?" You know? | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
American publishers DC Comics only entrust a few select artists to draw their iconic heroes. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:15 | |
But Frank's artistry and imagination have earned him the right | 0:06:15 | 0:06:20 | |
to draw The X-Men, The Invisibles, Superman and Batman. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
'You can't make radical changes to the costume, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
'it's got to still look like Batman, but they're very good | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
'at allowing individual artists to let their own natural style come through.' | 0:06:33 | 0:06:39 | |
And Frank's got style. His artwork is in constant demand | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
with American comic companies | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
and he's gained a worldwide cult following. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
There are people who are fans of my work, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
irrespective of what the character is or the story is. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
When you're stuck in working and stuff, and it's quite slow work you know, you do forget | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
that there are people out there that really appreciate it, | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
but most of the time, I'm just a guy in Glasgow, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
working in here. Sitting drawing, you know? | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
Like all good superheroes, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
Frank pretends to be an ordinary Glasgow guy, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
but he is a superstar of comic art, having won four Eisner awards - | 0:07:21 | 0:07:26 | |
the Oscars of the comic world. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
And Hope Street Studios is HQ for up and coming new comic talent. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
A lot of comics go on here, a lot of pieces of comics get assembled here, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
and then shipped off somewhere else. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Basically, people are exporting their skills and importing dollars into Glasgow. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
Sometimes, I'll find myself voicing lines | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
that the characters are saying, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:53 | |
and getting right into the vibe, you know? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
You'd need to ask the other people I work with how much I go, "pweooch!" | 0:07:56 | 0:08:01 | |
When I'm drawing something blowing up, you know? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:03 | |
I think everybody does, I hope everybody does. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
-Is this a sound effect I've got to do? -Aye. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
'You need to think up a noise for the claw coming up his nose.' | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-What about schnikt? -Aye, schnikt! | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
They work for comics big and small, on both sides of the Atlantic. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
And for these guys, every story, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
every hero, and each individual panel, is a labour of love. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:28 | |
With colouring, specifically, you can really set the mood, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
and it gives the colourist a lot of space to put there own creative slant on things. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:38 | |
Say it was a hardboiled detective story, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
you might want it to look more realistic and blunt, so you don't want to make it look splashy, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:46 | |
you want to make it look cramped and claustrophobic. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
How do you spell the sound effect? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
'F-L-I-K-T.' | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Do you want to draw it? Bit of hand-lettering? Cos I'm not going to... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Heroes and Villains fly across the world at the click of button | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
and the guys claim their rewards. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
I think when I got my first cheque from DC Comics | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
with the big DC logo on it, that was it. It was like... | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
And it was in dollars, you know? | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
And I took it into the Clydesdale Bank, like, "There you go." | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
2,000, like, "What are we going to do with this?" | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
I was like, "I don't know, you're the bank." | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
But something doesn't make sense, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
why was Scotland a place for comic book heroes? | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
Surely, the first comics came out of New York, London or Paris? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
But no, it's claimed that the first comic in the world, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
came from...right here. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
This is emphatically, unequivocally, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
the very first comic in the world and it comes from Glasgow. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:59 | |
This is issue number one of the Glasgow Looking Glass from June 1825. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:05 | |
It was a bit of a gossip sheet, it was aimed more at the literati, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
it is meant to make you laugh and think. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
The early illustrators were not of the best quality, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
but they expanded it later, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
and by the time we get to issue ten, it's quite magnificent. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:25 | |
So this is number 15 with the magnificent My House In Town. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:34 | |
Of course in old tenements, the rich people lived up the stairs, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:41 | |
as you go further down things become a little more middle class | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
then working class, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:45 | |
these are the porters and all that, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
some of these will be servants for folk who live upstairs. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
And the coal cellar, as things start to become less nice, as it were. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
Down the bottom, a guy enjoying himself, | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
but in slightly straightened circumstances, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
not got the same headroom. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
It's not a kids story, it's not got superheroes in it, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:08 | |
it's not adventurous, but does it have regular strips? Yes. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:13 | |
Does it have recurring characters? Yes, it does. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Does it have word balloons? Yes, it does. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
Did it appear regularly? Yes, it did. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
So every single question covers any definition, I think, of a comic periodical. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
'So the Glasgow Looking Glass was the world's first comic | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
'but the chief wants a story about Scottish comic book heroes, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
'and that meant there was one place I had to go.' | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
Scotland's comic city - | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
Dundee. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
For more than 75 years, Dundee's DC Thomson has published legendary comics like The Beano, the Bunty | 0:11:55 | 0:12:01 | |
and The Broons. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
And I had a tip off | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
that it was once home to Scotland's very own caped crusader. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
DC Thomson's did experiment with some British superhero characters. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
Notable example would be Amazing Mr X. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
It starred the Amazing Mr X as Len Manners, | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
he was very much a Clark Kent Superman prototype, | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
he was always referred to as a super man or mysterious super man, | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
he wore a little mask. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
He was always leaping between sandstone buildings, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
the kind you'd see in Dundee or in Edinburgh, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
and it just doesn't look the same as soaring between sky scrapers. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
Unlike an American superhero, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
our Amazing Mr X, um, stopped people stealing lead from roofs | 0:12:47 | 0:12:52 | |
and maybe caught a poacher. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
In one episode, he wrestles with a stag, and it just didn't really work. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:59 | |
That was how we operated, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:00 | |
it was what you would call kitchen-sink superheroes. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
Tucking into a cow pie was a good conclusion for a story, rather than saving the world. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:11 | |
Sincere superheroes didn't really fit at DC Thomson. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:20 | |
Because in Scotland, what readers loved was local heroes. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:25 | |
We all grew up with it. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
We took it for granted, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:28 | |
we all read Oor Wullie and The Broons when we were kids. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
It was a training in the relationship | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
between words and pictures. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:35 | |
It's part of a fabric of Scottish culture that does contribute | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
to the way contemporary writers and artists draw on their own experience. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:46 | |
It's quite remarkable that all that cultural input | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
has come from one company. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
You think of the great publishing cities for comics round the world, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
you think of New York, Tokyo, London, Dundee! | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
When do you ever see Dundee mentioned in a list like that? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
No matter what type of comic book hero you wanted to write, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
all roads led to DC Thomson. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
It was certainly the best training in UK, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
because you would be with young guys in offices | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
where the talk all the time was of comics, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
and of how you design pictures, what worked, what didn't work, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
we were producing so many comics and magazines, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
if you were on our staff, very shortly, | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
you would see your stuff in print. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
DC Thomson ensured Scotland was a hive of comic creativity, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:43 | |
but I'm looking for Scottish superheroes. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
And I wasn't the only one. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:48 | |
In the 1970s, frustrated by years of couthy comics, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
a group of writers left DC Thomson | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
and dared to imagine an action-packed future. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
They were taught in this very staid formalised environment - and once they got out of there, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
their minds just explode with imagination and it was, we can't wait | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
to shove two fingers in the direction of anyone who tells us what to do. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:14 | |
They set up 2000AD, the ultra-violent punk comic... | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
where anything goes. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
I just couldn't believe it - here was a British comic | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
going down the route of American comics I'd enjoyed so much as a teenager, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:37 | |
but had still retained its cutting edge. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:42 | |
You get 2000AD and suddenly it's just completely different. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
It changed the face of British comics completely and utterly. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
I noted the star writers, Alan Grant and John Wagner, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
were both Scottish, and both DC Thomson-trained. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
Their new comic allowed them to create characters like Judge Dredd... | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
who was a million miles from Oor Wullie. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:05 | |
-Why is he so popular? -Mainly because he appeals to the bastard in everybody. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
We wanted it to be funny obviously and we wanted it to be sort of true to life. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:15 | |
We used to buy all the tabloids, go through the tabloids looking for ideas | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
that we could extrapolate into the future... | 0:16:19 | 0:16:24 | |
This story here, "Twas the Night before Christmas". | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
Here comes Santa Claus and his reindeer coming into Megacity One. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
He doesn't respond to the city defenders' call to | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
identify himself so they set off a couple of missiles... | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
They actually blow up Santa's reindeer. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Dredd follows the trail of blood and finds Santa Claus with his sack. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
He's saying "Gotta deliver!" | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
So Dredd's chasing him, and he shoots Santa dead with his bike cannon. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:58 | |
And we end up saying a belated Merry Christmas to all our readers after we've just killed Santa. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:05 | |
I would say Alan Grant is one of the unsung heroes of Scottish comics, of British comics. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
The material the Wagner-Grant partnership created in the 80s was stunning. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
It's the golden age of 2000AD for a reason, and Alan Grant was a big part of that. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Basically we were allowed to do whatever we wanted because the comic was successful and most publishers | 0:17:19 | 0:17:26 | |
don't interfere if they've got a successful publication, so they just left us to get on with it. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:32 | |
The success of 2000AD was noted by the comic companies across the Atlantic. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
At last, Scottish writers were given a chance to play in the Super League. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
One day, completely out of the blue, we got a call from the senior editor on DC's Batman titles... | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
and basically what he said was he'd been reading 2000AD and he really liked the hard edge | 0:17:48 | 0:17:55 | |
we'd given to Judge Dredd and could we do the same for Batman? | 0:17:55 | 0:18:01 | |
For people who had grown up reading Superman, Batman and Spiderman, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
the chance to go and play with the big boys' toys was irresistible. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
Alan Grant wore his politics on his superhero sleeve... | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
and ensured that his Caped Crusader fought the good fight. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
I made Batman completely different from the Batman of the 1950s... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
no longer did he fight alien invasions or jellyfish | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
or all the rest of the stupid things that they had him doing... | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
I tried to make him a champion of not so much the poor but the underprivileged - | 0:18:34 | 0:18:41 | |
those who couldn't find justice any other way. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
I think people like Alan Grant brought a kind of new take on American superheroes... | 0:18:46 | 0:18:53 | |
almost a kind of distance from them which many of the American writers brought up within that system, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:59 | |
brought up idolizing those characters, didn't have | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
and people like Alan Grant brought a breath of fresh air into Batman. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
Not only did Alan Grant put Scotland in Batman, | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
he also put Batman in Scotland. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
The background to the story takes us to the Highland Clearances, both Batman and Fergus Slith, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:25 | |
the villain, come from the Highland Clearances and have gone to America. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
Batman's family, and he says at one point in this book... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
some of my ancestors are actually Scottish... | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
but his ancestors were the landowners and they were responsible | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
for sending the villain away and clearing him out of his land. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
And now in the 20th century, the villain is coming back to wreak havoc and to kill innocent people. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:50 | |
So there are very serious questions being raised about innocence and guilt | 0:19:50 | 0:19:57 | |
across generations... a very Scottish theme. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:02 | |
Batman, Superman, Iron Man... | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
behind every superhero, there seemed to be a mild-mannered Scot... | 0:20:09 | 0:20:14 | |
And there was one name that came up again and again. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
A scary, mythical figure who had lived a life as dramatic as the heroes he writes. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
The Glasgow writer who's been the biggest name in the comic universe for decades. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:28 | |
In the comics world, I mean Grant Morrison is MASSIVE, I mean he's... | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
seen as this huge brain, this massive intellect that he brings to his work. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:48 | |
This guy, Grant Morrison, is one of the most sought-after comic writers in the world. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:59 | |
He divides his time between LA and Rothesay... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:04 | |
And his love of superheroes is rooted in his own attempts to save the world. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
My parents were antinuclear activists and brought me out here | 0:21:11 | 0:21:15 | |
as a kid to protest against American Polaris submarine presence in this very place... | 0:21:15 | 0:21:22 | |
Out of that came my need for something that could counteract the bomb, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
and I found that in Superman and Superman comics... | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
you saw that guy and he would just stand there | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
and the atomic bomb would explode off his chest | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
and then he wipes his nose and laughs. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
For over 20 years, Grant Morrison's wild imagination has been stunning readers across the world. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:56 | |
He wrote stories for DC Thomson, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
then 2000AD... | 0:21:59 | 0:22:00 | |
then was headhunted by the big American publishers who put him in charge of Batman, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
Animal Man, the X Men and a whole universe of superheroes... | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
I like the broad range, I like that operatic sort of range, colourful personalities. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:15 | |
Yu know what Superman stands for you know what Wonder Woman stands for. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
I can understand the world in terms of these ridiculous conflicts in comic books. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
But for Grant, it wasn't enough just to write super heroes... | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
he wanted to walk amongst them. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
And things took a post-modern twist in his acclaimed series The Invisibles when he created King Mob, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:43 | |
a character fashioned in his own image. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
I made myself look like him and meshed my life into him as much as | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
could be possible without actually becoming an occult terrorist... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
I began to put him through situations without knowing what it might mean for me. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:03 | |
Weirdly, life began to mimic art... | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
I put him through a situation where he was captured by his enemies and tortured. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
And he's on a torture chair, his lungs collapsed he's been shot, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
he's convinced he's got necrotising | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
fasciatus bacteria eating through his face cause they've used a mind control drug on him | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
I'm blithely writing all this stuff then three months later, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
suddenly I'm in hospital... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
I've got a hole in cheek, lung collapsed completely, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:34 | |
poisoned and dying. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
In the same kind of circumstances as character... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:41 | |
It was almost the idea that I created a voodoo version of myself, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
a voodoo doll in this environment and suddenly by affecting him | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
I could make changes in my own life... . | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
There's often a grant Morrison proxy that appears in comics. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
the superhero becomes an other imagined self, | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
tying into the great theme of doublings in Scottish literature... | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
And he very much preaches this idea that you can invent | 0:24:03 | 0:24:08 | |
a fictional character, a fictional personae and then step into it. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
After year at the cutting edge of comics, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Grant has returned to the hero he first idolised... | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
All Star Superman celebrates 70 years of the Man of Steel... | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
It was me writing it, Frank Quitely drawing it, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
and Jamie Grant colouring it, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
and it's three Scottish guys suddenly doing the best selling superman comic in America, | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
but we liked the idea that this was specifically coming | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
completely from Scotland. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
The huge success of Scottish comics writers... | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
at the moment is perhaps something that Scots | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
aren't as aware of as they should be. This is very much a big deal. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
These are some of the most important and beloved characters in the world | 0:25:01 | 0:25:07 | |
that people like Mark Millar and Grant Morrison | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
are getting to play around with. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
From the Mr X to Mark Millar's Kick Ass, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
I'd uncovered Scotland's rich contribution to the art form... | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
..but I didn't understand why we were so good at it. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
How did Scotland produced so many great comic creatives? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
When we were kids we were all fascinated with America, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
cos America was the world's number one country and it was where the culture came from... | 0:25:38 | 0:25:44 | |
so we took in everything we could about America | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
and I guess it just got mixed up with our Scottish stuff | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
and then regurgitated when it came to our stories. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
You have writers and artists who are very self conscious | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
about the history of the American comics and American graphic novels | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
but are also very confident of their own Scottishness, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
you know, not to worry about it... | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
What's happening is a sort of colonization in reverse. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
American writers were much too interested in maintaining their | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
own kind of childhood vision of characters. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
We came in with a lot, you know, lot more punkish and anarchic attitude. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
The superhero in their world isn't this all-knowing character who | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
can defeat any evil with a flex of his muscles. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
Very much a character who is rife with internal problems | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
rife with psychological problems, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
he's very much ill at ease with his own authority, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
doesn't wear power well, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
and if you think about that in a Scottish context, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
the Scottish relationship to power, imperialism | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
and authority is of course a very problematic one | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
and I think Scottish writers very much reflect that. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
But after nearly 200 years of Scottish comics, The local fan boys | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
are getting the moment they've long been waiting for... | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
Mark Millar's new film, Miracle Park, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
will feature characters who are 100% superhero and 100% Scottish... | 0:27:15 | 0:27:21 | |
'So I just thought stealing it back you know, doing a superhero idea | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
'but setting in Scotland could be quite interesting. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
'And not to make it a really obvious jokey kind of thing that people | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
'imagined it would be but that's not really what my stuff's like. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
'Just making it a great sci-fi superhero drama. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
To bring the seriousness of something like Trainspotting | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
like a Danny Boyle movie... | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
Doing it like that, setting it in Scotland, but it's about a bunch of people who have super powers, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:48 | |
so there's no capes and costumes and that kind of stuff, it's a very | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
real gritty superhero drama done for a modern audience. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
My report hit the newsstands... | 0:27:57 | 0:27:58 | |
I revealed to readers that our comic book heroes just needed belief. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
Because when it comes to imagination We don't need anyone to rescue us. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:10 | |
We can all be truly, utterly and indisputably, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:16 | |
international superheroes! | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
And it's a story that looks certain to be continued... | 0:28:21 | 0:28:25 | |
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