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This programme contains some strong language | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
Welcome to Edinburgh, world's biggest arts festival. Tonight, George RR Martin, | 0:52:24 | 0:52:28 | |
creator of the worldwide TV phenomenon Game Of Thrones. | 0:52:28 | 0:52:30 | |
Professor Mary Beard on the jokes that tickled the ancient Romans. | 0:52:30 | 0:52:35 | |
Priceless pots from Ming dynasty China... | 0:52:35 | 0:52:37 | |
Strictly's Bruno Tonioli hotfoots his way around | 0:52:39 | 0:52:42 | |
the festival's most dazzling dance shows, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
And music from Flamenco legend Paco Pena. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:48 | |
The Edinburgh Festival was founded in the aftermath of World War II, | 0:52:51 | 0:52:55 | |
with the aim of providing a platform for the flowering | 0:52:55 | 0:52:58 | |
of the human spirit through the power of the arts. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:01 | |
This year's event features a number of artistic responses to conflict, | 0:53:01 | 0:53:05 | |
from the Trojan War to the recent military action in Afghanistan and Iraq. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:09 | |
EXPLOSIONS | 0:53:09 | 0:53:12 | |
Across the centuries, artists, writers and poets have | 0:53:12 | 0:53:15 | |
produced some of their most powerful work in direct response to warfare. | 0:53:15 | 0:53:19 | |
War is a major theme at this year's Edinburgh Festival. | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
Halt! LAUGHTER | 0:53:26 | 0:53:31 | |
At the Traverse, | 0:53:31 | 0:53:33 | |
Valentijn Dhaenens' SmallWar is a multi-media exploration | 0:53:33 | 0:53:37 | |
of the horrors of war set in a field hospital just behind the front line. | 0:53:37 | 0:53:41 | |
Fighting can be a source of joy. | 0:53:41 | 0:53:45 | |
For some, perhaps, even the greatest joy of all. Hmm? | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
Why else choose, voluntarily, at the risk of dying, to go into war? | 0:53:51 | 0:53:58 | |
To fight, to kill...? | 0:54:00 | 0:54:01 | |
Dhaenens' production is a technically complex one-man show. | 0:54:01 | 0:54:06 | |
He uses projections and looping techniques to explore the experiences of a number | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
of characters, including a nurse and a wounded soldier. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:13 | |
When you started to construct this piece, where did you start? | 0:54:13 | 0:54:16 | |
Did you start with history books? Letters, photographs? | 0:54:16 | 0:54:19 | |
Over the course of a year, I only read about war. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
I stressed on the First World War but I couldn't resist reading about | 0:54:22 | 0:54:27 | |
the Second World War, especially the psychology thing of war. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
I think that's a big thing I wanted to put in. | 0:54:31 | 0:54:34 | |
Did you then lift from the interviews into dialogue, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:37 | |
or is your dialogue completely constructed by you? | 0:54:37 | 0:54:40 | |
That's like a mixture. I guess what I always do, it's like sampling. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
You take bits, and I pick a mother from a letter | 0:54:45 | 0:54:48 | |
and I pick a son of another letter and I put them together | 0:54:48 | 0:54:51 | |
and let them have a dialogue. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:53 | |
'When it's my turn, will you want me to go? | 0:54:53 | 0:54:56 | |
'Any man would give his son for democracy. | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
'I won't be here to stop you, that's for sure.' | 0:54:58 | 0:55:03 | |
I really wanted to stress on the people who get shell-shock, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
who don't know what to do any more. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
They might only have an explosion of anger, then the collapse again. | 0:55:09 | 0:55:12 | |
My piece has a very slow pace and I wanted to make something very | 0:55:12 | 0:55:17 | |
opposite to all the other ways we get war into our lives. | 0:55:17 | 0:55:21 | |
MELANCHOLY MUSIC | 0:55:21 | 0:55:26 | |
It's not just World War I that has been covered at this year's festival. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:30 | |
More recent conflicts, such as the war in Afghanistan, | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
have also inspired work. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
The play, Britannia Waves The Rules deals with the psychological | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
consequences of the Afghan war on young combatants. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:45 | |
It tells the story of Carl Jackson, | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
an unemployed man from Blackpool who longs to leave his home town. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:53 | |
Will you work? Why won't you work? | 0:55:55 | 0:55:57 | |
You've got to get a job and behave. | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
But a job is a wage and a wage is a cage in a town like mine. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
He feels like there's nowhere to go and nothing to do, which is | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
a line that runs throughout the play. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
He decides to join the Army, he thinks it's a way out of Blackpool, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
he thinks it's a way to see the world. | 0:56:11 | 0:56:13 | |
And here's to the heights, | 0:56:13 | 0:56:15 | |
to the illustrious sights of foreign excitement and glory! | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
So, goodbye, bleak British backwater boredom. | 0:56:18 | 0:56:21 | |
And hello to being the best. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:24 | |
To guns and drums and fighting fitness. | 0:56:24 | 0:56:27 | |
To getting ahead of the rest. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
The shock of war takes a grip of Carl after his colleague is killed in action. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:35 | |
As a result, he develops post-traumatic stress disorder. | 0:56:38 | 0:56:42 | |
There's still a great need to understand war, particularly | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
Iraq, Afghanistan. | 0:56:46 | 0:56:47 | |
Is it something that your generation talk about, | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
the battles that Britain is fighting? | 0:56:50 | 0:56:52 | |
I think it is something that has been almost pushed down... | 0:56:52 | 0:56:55 | |
the order of things in the news, which is something that gets to | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
me, and it's something that the writer said inspired him to write this play. | 0:56:58 | 0:57:02 | |
When it first started, it was the first thing on the news. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:04 | |
This is what is going on in Afghanistan today. | 0:57:04 | 0:57:06 | |
This is what is going on in Iraq. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:08 | |
And slowly and slowly, things would start to go ahead of that, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
and that was one of the things that inspired him | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
because he felt like it was getting forgotten about. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:15 | |
I want to stop. You can't stop. It doesn't stop. | 0:57:15 | 0:57:19 | |
It doesn't end until it's forced to stop. | 0:57:19 | 0:57:21 | |
We fight, we win, we fight some more. It doesn't stop! | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
Since it's been on, have there been people in the audience | 0:57:24 | 0:57:27 | |
who've talked to you about their experiences? | 0:57:27 | 0:57:29 | |
Yeah, we had a guy and he just came up to me | 0:57:29 | 0:57:30 | |
and said, I was in the forces. He said, I knew people who ended up like that. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:34 | |
He said it was so real and he said I couldn't watch some of it. | 0:57:34 | 0:57:38 | |
And he said... Sort of had this conversation with me, | 0:57:38 | 0:57:41 | |
and I turned to him and I said, "That's why I do this job." | 0:57:41 | 0:57:44 | |
The Iraq War has also affected the poet Brian Turner, | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
who served as a sergeant there in the US Army. | 0:57:49 | 0:57:52 | |
His memoir, My Life As A Foreign Country, was partly written | 0:57:54 | 0:57:58 | |
whilst serving in Iraq. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:00 | |
Looking back now, I can see that the process of writing created | 0:58:00 | 0:58:03 | |
a space that was larger than the role I was. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
I was Sergeant Turner when I was there. | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
And Sergeant Turner is too small of an imaginative space for one person to live in. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:13 | |
And so the notebooks were a space for me to say | 0:58:13 | 0:58:16 | |
and to use language I couldn't use in everyday life. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:18 | |
"When I leave the tent, tens of thousands, | 0:58:18 | 0:58:21 | |
"perhaps hundreds of thousands, perhaps even millions of dead | 0:58:21 | 0:58:25 | |
"people will begin leaving their tent and following us home. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:27 | |
"And the wounded and the maimed and the traumatised | 0:58:27 | 0:58:31 | |
"and the frightened and the shattered and the shivering | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
"and the bruised and the broken and the disfigured. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:38 | |
"The ruined world will call its home inside of me." | 0:58:38 | 0:58:42 | |
Writing the book was a way of coming to terms with war for Turner, | 0:58:45 | 0:58:49 | |
but others are not so fortunate. | 0:58:49 | 0:58:52 | |
Veterans have come back home from different wars | 0:58:52 | 0:58:54 | |
and they carry baggage home with them. | 0:58:54 | 0:58:56 | |
It's something you have to live with the rest of your life. | 0:58:56 | 0:58:58 | |
And so that's true with veterans in previous wars, | 0:58:58 | 0:59:01 | |
um, they may have adjusted in different ways, maybe through alcohol. | 0:59:01 | 0:59:07 | |
Maybe now it's through methamphetamines or marijuana or something. | 0:59:07 | 0:59:10 | |
I met a veteran recently who, when I asked him about what therapy he was getting, he just tapped | 0:59:10 | 0:59:16 | |
the side of his leg and you could hear the pills jangling. | 0:59:16 | 0:59:18 | |
And he said, "This is therapy. This is the therapy they're giving me." | 0:59:18 | 0:59:22 | |
Since 2002, the artists kennardphillips have been | 0:59:25 | 0:59:28 | |
collaborating to produce works in response to the Iraq War. | 0:59:28 | 0:59:32 | |
They deal predominantly with photomontage, | 0:59:35 | 0:59:37 | |
and their most famous image is this one of Tony Blair. | 0:59:37 | 0:59:41 | |
It's had a life of its own amongst campaigners, | 0:59:41 | 0:59:44 | |
but also amongst the press. | 0:59:44 | 0:59:45 | |
It's been bought by the Scottish National Portrait Gallery | 0:59:45 | 0:59:48 | |
as the official portrait of Blair. | 0:59:48 | 0:59:50 | |
As part of their show Demo Talk, | 0:59:50 | 0:59:52 | |
they create a piece of live video art. | 0:59:52 | 0:59:55 | |
So, is this work about politics or about art? | 0:59:56 | 0:59:59 | |
It's art talking about politics. | 0:59:59 | 1:00:02 | |
The art in it is very important to us, it is | 1:00:02 | 1:00:04 | |
as important as it would be if we were painting apples, you know? | 1:00:04 | 1:00:08 | |
It's just that we are... Our subject is | 1:00:08 | 1:00:11 | |
the everyday life that's happening around the world. | 1:00:11 | 1:00:14 | |
Is the message that all war is bad? | 1:00:14 | 1:00:17 | |
Well, all war IS bad. | 1:00:17 | 1:00:18 | |
We're not putting strap lines on it, it's not propaganda. | 1:00:18 | 1:00:21 | |
We're not directing an audience's thinking. | 1:00:21 | 1:00:25 | |
And our subject matter, it is always direct politics. | 1:00:25 | 1:00:28 | |
We are using the symbolism of direct politics as we're using | 1:00:28 | 1:00:31 | |
heads of state, or the Financial Times as materials. | 1:00:31 | 1:00:35 | |
There is no...set message. | 1:00:35 | 1:00:38 | |
Coming into this space, what the audience watching television | 1:00:38 | 1:00:41 | |
will not be able to understand is the kind of smell of it. | 1:00:41 | 1:00:43 | |
The smell of burning, the smell of decay. | 1:00:43 | 1:00:46 | |
We made these burnt boards. | 1:00:46 | 1:00:48 | |
They're like pin boards, and burnt them outside our studio. | 1:00:48 | 1:00:51 | |
And then constructed the room out of the various boards. | 1:00:51 | 1:00:54 | |
And the shapes of them are totally based on what the burn did, | 1:00:54 | 1:00:58 | |
-we didn't actually do anything to them. -Sculpt them. | 1:00:58 | 1:01:01 | |
So why is war such a perennial inspiration for creative minds? | 1:01:07 | 1:01:12 | |
I think most artists have a preoccupation with the most | 1:01:13 | 1:01:16 | |
extreme things of our lives. | 1:01:16 | 1:01:18 | |
Everyone is attracted to war because it's... | 1:01:18 | 1:01:21 | |
It put something naked of us being human. | 1:01:21 | 1:01:25 | |
There are some people who will be seduced by the beauty that | 1:01:25 | 1:01:29 | |
often shows up in the work. | 1:01:29 | 1:01:31 | |
And that's a really difficult, um, thing for an artist to do because | 1:01:31 | 1:01:34 | |
it makes me wonder whether or not I should put work out into the world. | 1:01:34 | 1:01:37 | |
Art is for humanity, it's creativity. In itself it is a vital thing. | 1:01:39 | 1:01:45 | |
And then if you feel like that as an artist, then you want to make | 1:01:45 | 1:01:47 | |
work about something that is killing people rather than living. | 1:01:47 | 1:01:51 | |
Early this year, trams finally arrived on the streets of | 1:01:56 | 1:01:58 | |
Edinburgh after a very long and controversial construction project. | 1:01:58 | 1:02:02 | |
They have been ferrying tourists and commuters | 1:02:02 | 1:02:04 | |
alike on the journey between the airport and the city centre, | 1:02:04 | 1:02:07 | |
and we've been treating passengers to some very special performances. | 1:02:07 | 1:02:11 | |
First, here's Simon Munnery. | 1:02:11 | 1:02:13 | |
BELL RINGS | 1:02:17 | 1:02:19 | |
I note the lice have finally conquered my eyebrows. | 1:02:19 | 1:02:23 | |
More fool them, it's only a matter of time before the hairline | 1:02:23 | 1:02:26 | |
recedes and they're left stranded. | 1:02:26 | 1:02:28 | |
And then what? Inbreeding, infighting? | 1:02:28 | 1:02:31 | |
Possibly at the same time. | 1:02:31 | 1:02:32 | |
But so is the vicious wars between the two rival colonies, | 1:02:32 | 1:02:36 | |
until, at last, with both follicular forests deluded, | 1:02:36 | 1:02:39 | |
they'll be forced to make a dash for it. But where? | 1:02:39 | 1:02:41 | |
South, along the wind battered bridge of the nose, perhaps to the seeming safety of the nostril, | 1:02:41 | 1:02:46 | |
only to be blown to kingdom come by the next volcanic sneeze? | 1:02:46 | 1:02:49 | |
Or east, towards the ear? | 1:02:49 | 1:02:51 | |
Hoping to navigate its infinite complexity without map | 1:02:51 | 1:02:54 | |
or compass, only to find a few dried tufts in a quagmire of wax. | 1:02:54 | 1:02:59 | |
And then, with all options exhausted, the lice will be forced back. | 1:02:59 | 1:03:03 | |
Back across the ever-widening desert of the void. | 1:03:03 | 1:03:06 | |
That's when I'll get them. | 1:03:06 | 1:03:07 | |
Thank you. | 1:03:09 | 1:03:10 | |
Simon Munnery Sings Soren Kierkegaard at The Stand, | 1:03:14 | 1:03:17 | |
here in Edinburgh, until next week. | 1:03:17 | 1:03:19 | |
Now if you have missed out on the global phenomena that is | 1:03:19 | 1:03:21 | |
Game Of Thrones, where on earth have you been? | 1:03:21 | 1:03:24 | |
The creator of the hugely popular fantasy series | 1:03:24 | 1:03:27 | |
and the writer of the books that spawned it, George RR Martin, | 1:03:27 | 1:03:30 | |
has been appearing at the Edinburgh Book Festival. | 1:03:30 | 1:03:33 | |
Thrones aficionado Grace Dent jumped at the chance to meet him. | 1:03:33 | 1:03:36 | |
This city always feels like a fantasy kingdom. | 1:03:39 | 1:03:43 | |
A Gothic film set where you might expect to meet a knight, a wench, | 1:03:43 | 1:03:47 | |
or perhaps even a dragon at any moment. | 1:03:47 | 1:03:50 | |
But now, more so than ever before... | 1:03:51 | 1:03:54 | |
..because this year Game Of Thrones has come to town. | 1:03:55 | 1:03:59 | |
George RR Martin's Song Of Ice and Fire books have sold 15 million copies worldwide. | 1:04:03 | 1:04:08 | |
And the subsequent TV series, Game Of Thrones, | 1:04:11 | 1:04:14 | |
has become HBO's most popular show of all time. | 1:04:14 | 1:04:17 | |
The series is set in a fantasy world, but one in which magic is kept | 1:04:20 | 1:04:24 | |
to a minimum and political intrigue takes centre stage. | 1:04:24 | 1:04:28 | |
It's not about elves or wizards, it's about people, politics and war. | 1:04:30 | 1:04:35 | |
And sex, of course. And violence. | 1:04:37 | 1:04:40 | |
And sex and more violence. | 1:04:40 | 1:04:42 | |
And death. | 1:04:42 | 1:04:44 | |
In my opinion, this is the greatest thing on television today | 1:04:44 | 1:04:48 | |
and I'm in Edinburgh to meet the man behind it all. | 1:04:48 | 1:04:52 | |
Does Scotland and its stories, does that influence your work at all? | 1:04:52 | 1:04:58 | |
Well, if by influence you mean have I pillaged Scottish | 1:04:59 | 1:05:02 | |
history for various scenes in Song Of Ice and Fire, | 1:05:02 | 1:05:06 | |
yes, definitely. | 1:05:06 | 1:05:07 | |
It was my 1981 visit to Hadrian's Wall that inspired my own wall. | 1:05:07 | 1:05:12 | |
Scottish history is wonderfully baroque and bloody and twisted | 1:05:12 | 1:05:17 | |
and strange, and there are many terrific incidents in it. | 1:05:17 | 1:05:21 | |
These books, these tales, | 1:05:21 | 1:05:23 | |
they've gone beyond the traditional fantasy audience. | 1:05:23 | 1:05:27 | |
They've grabbed a whole new... genre of people, me included. | 1:05:27 | 1:05:31 | |
-What can you... Can you pinpoint how you have done that? -No! | 1:05:31 | 1:05:34 | |
I have no idea, but I am very glad. | 1:05:35 | 1:05:38 | |
But it's been a very strange ride here. | 1:05:38 | 1:05:42 | |
I think in part because of the TV series, | 1:05:42 | 1:05:45 | |
which has been enormously popular. | 1:05:45 | 1:05:47 | |
It's just one of those things | 1:05:47 | 1:05:48 | |
that occasionally happens when lightning flashes | 1:05:48 | 1:05:51 | |
down from the sky and something just becomes part of the culture. | 1:05:51 | 1:05:55 | |
British audiences can sometimes be slightly shocked at the sexual content of Game Of Thrones. | 1:05:55 | 1:06:02 | |
You get some people who're kind of clutching at the pearls, they're shocked. | 1:06:02 | 1:06:06 | |
HE LAUGHS | 1:06:06 | 1:06:08 | |
-How do you feel about complaints about sex? -Um... | 1:06:08 | 1:06:13 | |
You know, you can always change the channel. | 1:06:14 | 1:06:17 | |
Sexuality is an important part of human life and part of all of our | 1:06:17 | 1:06:21 | |
lives and part of the lives of all of the people through history. | 1:06:21 | 1:06:24 | |
So I think leaving it out would be ridiculous. | 1:06:24 | 1:06:28 | |
Some of Thrones' most familiar faces have been popping up | 1:06:28 | 1:06:31 | |
across Edinburgh. Dame Diana Rigg is staging a one-woman show. | 1:06:31 | 1:06:35 | |
It's a rare enough thing... | 1:06:35 | 1:06:37 | |
a man who lives up to his reputation. | 1:06:37 | 1:06:40 | |
Leave her face! | 1:06:42 | 1:06:43 | |
I like her pretty. | 1:06:45 | 1:06:46 | |
And Jack Gleeson, otherwise known as King Joffrey, | 1:06:46 | 1:06:49 | |
one of the greatest baddies in TV history, is also in town, | 1:06:49 | 1:06:53 | |
performing with his group Bears In Space. | 1:06:53 | 1:06:56 | |
Hey, you know, I will have whatever he's having. But make it a double. | 1:06:56 | 1:06:59 | |
A double double?! | 1:06:59 | 1:07:00 | |
Sounds like you have something you want to forget, stranger. Twice. | 1:07:00 | 1:07:03 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:07:03 | 1:07:06 | |
There's, in the group, there are faces that audiences will never | 1:07:06 | 1:07:10 | |
have seen before and there are faces that are very recognisable. | 1:07:10 | 1:07:13 | |
Is that a help or a hindrance when selling tickets? | 1:07:13 | 1:07:16 | |
We're definitely doing it in the right way cos... | 1:07:16 | 1:07:19 | |
-The way we want to do it. -The way we want to do it, yeah. | 1:07:19 | 1:07:21 | |
Because I think if we push that side of things, | 1:07:22 | 1:07:26 | |
we'd sell out every night | 1:07:26 | 1:07:27 | |
and it wouldn't be a problem. | 1:07:27 | 1:07:28 | |
But I think we're of the opinion that it might cheapen the show | 1:07:28 | 1:07:33 | |
somewhat, just to kind of cheaply... | 1:07:33 | 1:07:35 | |
-..associate the show with Game Of Thrones, or whatever. -Yeah. | 1:07:37 | 1:07:41 | |
# You've got a new favourite show | 1:07:41 | 1:07:44 | |
# It's called Game Of Thrones...! # | 1:07:44 | 1:07:46 | |
But some performers are happy to jump on the Game Of Thrones bandwagon. | 1:07:46 | 1:07:50 | |
# Bum-bum-ba-ra-rum-pom ba-ra-rum-pom, ba-ra-rum-pom | 1:07:50 | 1:07:53 | |
-# Game of Thrones! -Game of Thrones. # -You so nailed it! | 1:07:53 | 1:07:56 | |
You nailed it, you guys! Get off stage. | 1:07:56 | 1:07:58 | |
There's a Game of Thrones The Musical called Winter Is Coming. | 1:07:58 | 1:08:02 | |
-HE LAUGHS There is? I didn't know that. -Well, there is. | 1:08:02 | 1:08:05 | |
How do you feel about that, would you like me to get you tickets? | 1:08:05 | 1:08:08 | |
-THEY LAUGH -Do you want to see this? | 1:08:08 | 1:08:11 | |
I feel a little shocked about that because I really own | 1:08:11 | 1:08:15 | |
the rights to, er... live performances of the material. | 1:08:15 | 1:08:18 | |
So I think there is some copyright infringement going on here! | 1:08:18 | 1:08:22 | |
-They haven't contacted you about it? -No, this is the first I've heard of it. | 1:08:22 | 1:08:26 | |
You're breaking a hot news story here, Grace. HE LAUGHS | 1:08:26 | 1:08:29 | |
I mean, apart from the copyright issue, do you love this, or do you think, "That's my baby"? | 1:08:29 | 1:08:34 | |
The ones that really boggle me, | 1:08:34 | 1:08:36 | |
frankly, are not the parodies of the show or anything having to do | 1:08:36 | 1:08:40 | |
with the show, but the ones that are about me personally. | 1:08:40 | 1:08:44 | |
You know, at the San Diego Comic-Con there was | 1:08:44 | 1:08:47 | |
one guy selling a George RR Martin doll, which was pretty...freaky. | 1:08:47 | 1:08:51 | |
I'm not sure how I feel about that. | 1:08:52 | 1:08:53 | |
I think some of my more belligerent fans are probably using it for voodoo purposes. | 1:08:53 | 1:08:57 | |
Hi, how are you? | 1:09:01 | 1:09:03 | |
Although some fans are getting frustrated | 1:09:03 | 1:09:05 | |
waiting for the next instalment in the series. | 1:09:05 | 1:09:07 | |
George, in town for the book festival, | 1:09:07 | 1:09:09 | |
inspires huge devotion in his followers. | 1:09:09 | 1:09:13 | |
I can't quite believe that he's like a few hundred metres | 1:09:13 | 1:09:16 | |
from wherever we are right now. It is pretty special. | 1:09:16 | 1:09:19 | |
You know, he is such a fantastic weaver of a tale. | 1:09:19 | 1:09:21 | |
People just want to know what happens next, I guess. | 1:09:21 | 1:09:24 | |
Why is he wasting time here? | 1:09:24 | 1:09:26 | |
He should be at home frantically writing! | 1:09:26 | 1:09:28 | |
Are you comfortable with being so enormously famous and in demand? | 1:09:29 | 1:09:37 | |
I'm trying to find a word that isn't inner peace. | 1:09:37 | 1:09:40 | |
Actually, no. No, I haven't. | 1:09:40 | 1:09:42 | |
We came to the Fringe Festival, I think, just three or four years ago. | 1:09:42 | 1:09:46 | |
And one or two people recognised me the whole week that we were here. | 1:09:46 | 1:09:50 | |
Now I walk the streets and three or four people recognise me every block. | 1:09:50 | 1:09:55 | |
And it's, it's transformed my life... | 1:09:56 | 1:09:59 | |
..in ways that I'm not entirely comfortable with. | 1:10:01 | 1:10:03 | |
What message do you have for people who say, "Why is he sitting | 1:10:03 | 1:10:06 | |
"down here talking to Grace Dent when he should be writing the next book?" | 1:10:06 | 1:10:10 | |
HE CHUCKLES Yeah, well... I get that no matter what I do. | 1:10:10 | 1:10:15 | |
"Why is he watching football?" "Why is he eating dinner?" | 1:10:15 | 1:10:20 | |
"Why is he doing any of that stuff?" | 1:10:20 | 1:10:21 | |
You know, you have to live your life too. | 1:10:25 | 1:10:27 | |
And you can hear more from George RR Martin online at... | 1:10:35 | 1:10:41 | |
Now they do say that the old jokes are the best, | 1:10:41 | 1:10:44 | |
but could that be truer than you think? | 1:10:44 | 1:10:46 | |
Professor Mary Beard is coming to Edinburgh next week to give a talk on the kind of jokes | 1:10:46 | 1:10:50 | |
that tickled the Romans. | 1:10:50 | 1:10:52 | |
But are we really cackling at the same old jokes | 1:10:52 | 1:10:54 | |
they cackled at centuries ago? | 1:10:54 | 1:10:56 | |
And has our sense of humour really not changed very much? | 1:10:56 | 1:10:59 | |
Ably assisted by Simon Callow, | 1:10:59 | 1:11:00 | |
Mary went back in time to find out. | 1:11:00 | 1:11:03 | |
There's no place like Rome. There's no place like Rome. | 1:11:03 | 1:11:06 | |
Three men embark on a journey together - | 1:11:15 | 1:11:17 | |
an absent-minded professor, a bald man and a barber. | 1:11:17 | 1:11:21 | |
They stop overnight. So in case someone nicks their luggage, they decide that | 1:11:21 | 1:11:25 | |
one of them has to stay awake all night. | 1:11:25 | 1:11:28 | |
The barber is chosen. | 1:11:28 | 1:11:29 | |
Towards morning he gets bored, | 1:11:29 | 1:11:31 | |
so he shaves the absent-minded professor's head. | 1:11:31 | 1:11:34 | |
The absent-minded professor wakes up. | 1:11:34 | 1:11:36 | |
He says, "You idiot, you've woken up the wrong man." | 1:11:36 | 1:11:39 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:11:39 | 1:11:41 | |
That's an ancient Roman joke getting on for 2,000 years old. | 1:11:42 | 1:11:46 | |
Funny or not? I'm not sure. | 1:11:46 | 1:11:49 | |
But it certainly hits on one of the Romans' favourite joking targets - | 1:11:49 | 1:11:54 | |
bald men. | 1:11:54 | 1:11:56 | |
Not that they laughed at everything, mind you. | 1:11:56 | 1:11:59 | |
Blindness, that was definitely off limits. | 1:11:59 | 1:12:03 | |
Not so very different from us, I guess. | 1:12:03 | 1:12:07 | |
Wheelchair users, that's a no-no. | 1:12:07 | 1:12:09 | |
But there still are all kinds of human difference that we | 1:12:10 | 1:12:15 | |
think it's perfectly OK, for some reason, to crack a gag at. | 1:12:15 | 1:12:19 | |
Genetically, there is no difference between somebody | 1:12:19 | 1:12:22 | |
Irish, English, Scottish, | 1:12:22 | 1:12:24 | |
possibly Welsh... There's nothing. | 1:12:24 | 1:12:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:12:26 | 1:12:28 | |
The barber, the bald man and the professor joke | 1:12:28 | 1:12:30 | |
comes from an ancient Roman joke book. | 1:12:30 | 1:12:33 | |
260 gags that take us right to the heart of Roman laughter. | 1:12:33 | 1:12:39 | |
There are some distinctive Roman themes like eunuchs or slaves. | 1:12:39 | 1:12:44 | |
Chap goes up to another guy and he says to him, "Hey, that slave you sold me died." | 1:12:44 | 1:12:49 | |
"That's funny," the other guy says, "he never did that when I owned him." | 1:12:49 | 1:12:52 | |
Which I think must be the origin of the Monty Python dead parrot sketch. | 1:12:52 | 1:12:56 | |
There is some familiar ethnic-style jokes too, | 1:12:57 | 1:13:00 | |
not against Irishmen or Belgians, but against the unfortunate | 1:13:00 | 1:13:05 | |
and very stupid people of the city of Abdera. | 1:13:05 | 1:13:09 | |
A man from Abdera sees a champion runner being crucified. | 1:13:09 | 1:13:13 | |
"My," he says, "he's really flying now." | 1:13:13 | 1:13:15 | |
Crucifixion jokes don't tend to be our cup of tea, | 1:13:16 | 1:13:20 | |
but modern stand-up still thrives on bad taste. | 1:13:20 | 1:13:25 | |
Hi, lovely to see you. | 1:13:25 | 1:13:26 | |
-Give us a cheer if you're drinking. -SPORADIC CHEERING | 1:13:26 | 1:13:29 | |
OK, about three people. I thought you were going to be my people, | 1:13:29 | 1:13:31 | |
I need you to know because I've had three glasses of this already. | 1:13:31 | 1:13:35 | |
But the baby's loving it. | 1:13:35 | 1:13:37 | |
-Relax, I'm not keeping it. -LAUGHTER | 1:13:37 | 1:13:41 | |
Laughter isn't just fun, it can be very nasty, too. | 1:13:41 | 1:13:44 | |
Bad emperors loved nothing more than humiliating their dinner guests with practical jokes. | 1:13:44 | 1:13:51 | |
In fact, the main claim to fame of the Emperor Elagabalus | 1:13:51 | 1:13:55 | |
in the third century AD, was that he invented the whoopee cushion. | 1:13:55 | 1:13:59 | |
PHRRT! | 1:13:59 | 1:14:00 | |
There was sheer sadism too. | 1:14:00 | 1:14:03 | |
"Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha," laughs the Emperor Caligula. | 1:14:03 | 1:14:06 | |
The two men reclining on either side of him ask him what's the joke. | 1:14:06 | 1:14:09 | |
He says, "Oh, only the idea that I have just to click my fingers | 1:14:09 | 1:14:12 | |
"and I can have both your heads off. | 1:14:12 | 1:14:14 | |
"I find that funny. Ha-ha." | 1:14:14 | 1:14:16 | |
Very funny(!) | 1:14:16 | 1:14:18 | |
But the ordinary Romans used laughter against those in power too. | 1:14:18 | 1:14:23 | |
Everybody, it seems, was having to have a crack at Julius Caesar's bald patch. | 1:14:23 | 1:14:28 | |
Just like we lampoon our own politicians, I guess. | 1:14:28 | 1:14:31 | |
Who thinks that Michael Gove is the kind of man whose favourite | 1:14:31 | 1:14:35 | |
underpants are woven from Margaret Thatcher's chest hair? | 1:14:35 | 1:14:39 | |
There was a popular strand of ancient satire, too. | 1:14:39 | 1:14:42 | |
The best-known satirist in Rome was the poet Juvenal who | 1:14:42 | 1:14:46 | |
lived around 100 AD. | 1:14:46 | 1:14:48 | |
He was the original grumpy old man, | 1:14:48 | 1:14:51 | |
moaning about the modern world, about those immigrants who wouldn't learn Latin, | 1:14:51 | 1:14:56 | |
about women who were getting above themselves, and about how impossible | 1:14:56 | 1:15:00 | |
it was to live in a busy, noisy, filthy, traffic-jammed city like Rome. | 1:15:00 | 1:15:07 | |
If anyone laughed at Juvenal, it must've been his sheer grumpiness that set them off. | 1:15:07 | 1:15:14 | |
There's things you can't do when you've got a cardigan | 1:15:14 | 1:15:16 | |
and are a balding man. I don't know... | 1:15:16 | 1:15:18 | |
I've only got five minutes, | 1:15:18 | 1:15:19 | |
I'm wondering whether to be kind of angry or happy. | 1:15:19 | 1:15:21 | |
Cos they're the only two things I can do now. I've realised that. | 1:15:21 | 1:15:24 | |
Someone once said to me, "Sometimes you're a little bit miserable," "I said, no, I'm fucking not." | 1:15:24 | 1:15:28 | |
Some Roman jokes really are very hard to understand | 1:15:28 | 1:15:31 | |
and some, I bet, can't ever have been very funny. | 1:15:31 | 1:15:34 | |
I mean, in every culture there are more bad jokes than good ones. | 1:15:34 | 1:15:38 | |
But, actually, though we don't often realise it, we are still | 1:15:38 | 1:15:41 | |
telling some Roman gags. | 1:15:41 | 1:15:44 | |
My favourite example comes from an unlikely source, | 1:15:44 | 1:15:48 | |
that is Enoch Powell. | 1:15:48 | 1:15:50 | |
Enoch Powell always used to have his hair cut by the resident House of Commons barber, | 1:15:50 | 1:15:54 | |
who was a chatty type, who liked to tell politicians | 1:15:54 | 1:15:56 | |
what was wrong with the world and what they should do about it. | 1:15:56 | 1:15:59 | |
One day, Powell walked in and the barber said to him, | 1:15:59 | 1:16:01 | |
"How would you like your hair cut, sir?" | 1:16:01 | 1:16:04 | |
"In silence," Powell replied. | 1:16:04 | 1:16:05 | |
Even people who don't like Powell's politics have to admit that | 1:16:07 | 1:16:12 | |
that was a pretty neat joke. | 1:16:12 | 1:16:15 | |
What they don't realise is that it came straight from the Roman joke book. | 1:16:15 | 1:16:20 | |
Powell, of course, was a learned classicist | 1:16:20 | 1:16:23 | |
and he knew that the old ones are the best. | 1:16:23 | 1:16:26 | |
"Gavin, Gavin, are you a fan of pastiche?" | 1:16:26 | 1:16:30 | |
"I say, "Well, I prefer | 1:16:30 | 1:16:32 | |
-"sausage rolls. And I..." -LAUGHTER | 1:16:32 | 1:16:35 | |
Laughter is a funny thing. | 1:16:35 | 1:16:37 | |
Try telling a joke in France | 1:16:37 | 1:16:39 | |
and you'll think it doesn't even travel across the Channel. | 1:16:39 | 1:16:43 | |
But, as Enoch Powell's joke with the barber shows, | 1:16:43 | 1:16:47 | |
in some ways it hasn't changed a bit. | 1:16:47 | 1:16:50 | |
Not in 2,000 years. | 1:16:50 | 1:16:52 | |
Mary Beard will be talking more about Roman comedy at the Assembly Rooms next Saturday | 1:16:54 | 1:16:59 | |
and her book Laughter In Ancient Rome is out now. | 1:16:59 | 1:17:02 | |
Simon Callow is at Assembly for another week. | 1:17:02 | 1:17:04 | |
Every year in Edinburgh there are shows which aim to shatter | 1:17:04 | 1:17:07 | |
stereotypes about sexuality and gender, often through burlesque and cabaret. | 1:17:07 | 1:17:11 | |
This year, though, the Fringe is offering something more, with a | 1:17:11 | 1:17:14 | |
range of performances examining the blurred lines of gender identities. | 1:17:14 | 1:17:19 | |
Psychotherapist Philippa Perry went to talk about artists and writers | 1:17:19 | 1:17:22 | |
who are pushing the envelope. | 1:17:22 | 1:17:24 | |
15 years ago when the Lady Boys Of Bangkok first came to Edinburgh, | 1:17:30 | 1:17:34 | |
they caused quite a stir. | 1:17:34 | 1:17:37 | |
These days, Fringe-goers expect a little bit more subtlety | 1:17:37 | 1:17:41 | |
and nuance when it comes to exploring gender identity. | 1:17:41 | 1:17:44 | |
Cross dressing and stripping on the Fringe may come as no surprise. | 1:17:48 | 1:17:52 | |
But feminist lap dancing, | 1:17:52 | 1:17:54 | |
art that documents the story of a couple who had surgery to | 1:17:54 | 1:17:57 | |
merge their genders, and men speaking women's | 1:17:57 | 1:18:00 | |
stories of everyday sexism and even rape, takes things to another level. | 1:18:00 | 1:18:05 | |
I met a guy recently and he was taking my clothes off in my kitchen. | 1:18:05 | 1:18:10 | |
He saw my armpits and there was this sort of... | 1:18:10 | 1:18:13 | |
-This sort of moment of surprise. -Eugh! | 1:18:13 | 1:18:17 | |
In a world where a boxing promoter can come out about her gender | 1:18:17 | 1:18:20 | |
realignment surgery and apparently there's a male contemporary | 1:18:20 | 1:18:23 | |
artist who frequently wears dresses in public, | 1:18:23 | 1:18:27 | |
I hope we are becoming more used to the idea of fluidity in gender. | 1:18:27 | 1:18:33 | |
It just so happens that I am married to the aforementioned | 1:18:33 | 1:18:36 | |
contemporary artist with unorthodox sartorial taste. | 1:18:36 | 1:18:40 | |
Personally, I have always felt comfortable in my own gender, | 1:18:40 | 1:18:43 | |
but that is not the case for everyone. | 1:18:43 | 1:18:46 | |
Many feel pushed into fixed cultural identities and the exploration | 1:18:46 | 1:18:50 | |
of that territory is fertile ground for the arts. | 1:18:50 | 1:18:53 | |
BOTH: It's easy to compare myself to Amy. | 1:18:54 | 1:18:57 | |
I mean, I don't like to feel jealous or competitive, | 1:19:00 | 1:19:04 | |
but I guess it's a natural element of our relationship. | 1:19:04 | 1:19:08 | |
Amy and Rosana Cade are sisters. | 1:19:09 | 1:19:11 | |
In their own words, one a lesbian, the other a sex worker. | 1:19:11 | 1:19:15 | |
The show is a kind of exploration of female sexuality. | 1:19:15 | 1:19:21 | |
All sexuality in general, | 1:19:21 | 1:19:23 | |
but very much told through our own autobiographies. | 1:19:23 | 1:19:27 | |
We are looking at our relationship as sisters and as two women with, | 1:19:27 | 1:19:31 | |
perhaps on paper, quite different gender identities. | 1:19:31 | 1:19:34 | |
You describe this as a feminist show. | 1:19:38 | 1:19:40 | |
Could you tell me why it's a feminist show? | 1:19:40 | 1:19:43 | |
I spent, over the last 10 years, | 1:19:44 | 1:19:46 | |
working in various different parts of the sex industry | 1:19:46 | 1:19:48 | |
and kind of exploring what I think it is to be a feminist | 1:19:48 | 1:19:53 | |
in that area, and exploring my own sexuality. | 1:19:53 | 1:19:56 | |
I am painfully aware of how many people are forced into the sex | 1:19:57 | 1:20:01 | |
industry, and for them it is not a choice but sexual slavery. | 1:20:01 | 1:20:05 | |
However, this is not the way that I and many other people out there | 1:20:05 | 1:20:09 | |
encounter the profession of sex work. | 1:20:09 | 1:20:12 | |
From me, feminism is about... | 1:20:12 | 1:20:15 | |
more than just equality, | 1:20:15 | 1:20:18 | |
it's about people feeling free to express themselves | 1:20:18 | 1:20:24 | |
and their gender in whatever way is right for them | 1:20:24 | 1:20:27 | |
and to move away from kind of binary structures about a man | 1:20:27 | 1:20:30 | |
is like this, and a woman is like this. | 1:20:30 | 1:20:31 | |
So it encapsulates all human beings. | 1:20:31 | 1:20:34 | |
Within the show that's something that we are exploring, is | 1:20:36 | 1:20:40 | |
the choices that we make and how free we are to make those choices. | 1:20:40 | 1:20:43 | |
And I feel like we represent two people who are saying, | 1:20:43 | 1:20:47 | |
I am choosing this identity or this way of being that some people | 1:20:47 | 1:20:51 | |
might class as outside of what is normal or acceptable, | 1:20:51 | 1:20:56 | |
but for us, we're owning those choices. | 1:20:56 | 1:20:58 | |
From sisters exploring their sexuality, | 1:21:01 | 1:21:04 | |
to men going beyond the usual constraints of what is considered masculine. | 1:21:04 | 1:21:09 | |
MUSIC: "Wuthering Heights" by Kate Bush | 1:21:09 | 1:21:11 | |
# He told me I was going to lose the fight | 1:21:11 | 1:21:15 | |
# Leave behind my Wuthering Wuthering, Wuthering Heights | 1:21:15 | 1:21:20 | |
# Heathcliffe, it's me... # | 1:21:20 | 1:21:22 | |
Peter McMaster's production of Wuthering Heights is | 1:21:22 | 1:21:25 | |
a humorous devised piece with an all-male cast. | 1:21:25 | 1:21:27 | |
# Let me into your window... # | 1:21:30 | 1:21:31 | |
Why Wuthering Heights? | 1:21:31 | 1:21:33 | |
Originally, it was an experiment. | 1:21:34 | 1:21:36 | |
I was interested to see what would happen | 1:21:36 | 1:21:39 | |
if a group of men decided to do that. | 1:21:39 | 1:21:41 | |
But actually over the period of the process, | 1:21:42 | 1:21:44 | |
I've realised that this classic male archetype, which is almost 200 years | 1:21:44 | 1:21:50 | |
old, is probably quite an appropriate figure to compare ourselves with. | 1:21:50 | 1:21:56 | |
THEY SCREAM | 1:21:56 | 1:21:57 | |
You are so selfish for leaving me here! | 1:21:57 | 1:22:00 | |
I hope you won't be happy until you die. | 1:22:00 | 1:22:02 | |
I am never going to be happy now. | 1:22:02 | 1:22:05 | |
You'll just move on, find someone else, won't you? | 1:22:05 | 1:22:07 | |
What am I going to do if you're going to die? | 1:22:07 | 1:22:10 | |
Why did you come back? | 1:22:10 | 1:22:12 | |
Why all male? | 1:22:12 | 1:22:14 | |
Because I was interested in making a piece of work with and about men. | 1:22:14 | 1:22:20 | |
A few years back, | 1:22:20 | 1:22:22 | |
I was working on a performance that my partner was doing, | 1:22:22 | 1:22:26 | |
which was a big interrogation of feminism | 1:22:26 | 1:22:29 | |
and as much as I was supportive of it, | 1:22:29 | 1:22:31 | |
I also was wondering what my place | 1:22:31 | 1:22:34 | |
within that kind of dialogue could be. | 1:22:34 | 1:22:36 | |
It quickly felt like I didn't have... | 1:22:36 | 1:22:41 | |
a position in that, really, to contribute as fully. | 1:22:41 | 1:22:44 | |
MUSIC: "Hey Boy Hey Girl" by The Chemical Brothers | 1:22:44 | 1:22:49 | |
On the other side of town, | 1:22:49 | 1:22:50 | |
transgender performer and playwright Jo Clifford's latest show | 1:22:50 | 1:22:54 | |
is an ecclesiastical affair. | 1:22:54 | 1:22:56 | |
The Gospel According To Jesus, Queen Of Heaven, | 1:22:56 | 1:22:59 | |
is... Well, it's more or less what it says on the tin - | 1:22:59 | 1:23:01 | |
it's a presentation of the Gospel as if reimagined through the life | 1:23:01 | 1:23:08 | |
and the sayings of a transgendered Jesus, which is a who I play. | 1:23:08 | 1:23:12 | |
I love my mum. | 1:23:12 | 1:23:14 | |
My mum said... | 1:23:16 | 1:23:19 | |
let there be light. | 1:23:19 | 1:23:21 | |
And I say... | 1:23:22 | 1:23:24 | |
..I am the light. | 1:23:27 | 1:23:29 | |
I wanted to put on the show, | 1:23:29 | 1:23:31 | |
because so much of the prejudice that people like myself encounter | 1:23:31 | 1:23:36 | |
is, sadly, tends to be justified by Christianity, by the Christian faith. | 1:23:36 | 1:23:42 | |
And, in actual fact, it's anti-Christian, | 1:23:42 | 1:23:45 | |
there is nothing in the Gospels, nothing in what Jesus says | 1:23:45 | 1:23:48 | |
that justifies that and I just wanted to make that very simple point. | 1:23:48 | 1:23:52 | |
And our conception was immaculate because it happened through sex. | 1:23:52 | 1:23:57 | |
And sex, of itself, is innocent and pure. | 1:23:57 | 1:24:01 | |
Almost every other culture that's ever been in the world has understood | 1:24:01 | 1:24:05 | |
that there are more than two genders. | 1:24:05 | 1:24:07 | |
The West is really in a minority in this respect. | 1:24:07 | 1:24:10 | |
And almost everybody has areas in which they feel... | 1:24:10 | 1:24:15 | |
Well, they feel unsure about whether they're really a proper man or | 1:24:15 | 1:24:18 | |
they're unsure about whether they feel they're really a proper woman. | 1:24:18 | 1:24:22 | |
Hyah! | 1:24:22 | 1:24:24 | |
HE IMITATES A HORSE | 1:24:24 | 1:24:26 | |
'I think gender is a performance | 1:24:28 | 1:24:30 | |
'and I think it's distinct from our sex,' | 1:24:30 | 1:24:32 | |
and I suppose if we believe that gender is a performance | 1:24:32 | 1:24:35 | |
and that we're are all kind of... | 1:24:35 | 1:24:36 | |
..ascribing to a supposed way of being, | 1:24:38 | 1:24:41 | |
then perhaps, through performance, we can rework it, as well, | 1:24:41 | 1:24:44 | |
and I think that's part of the work of this project. | 1:24:44 | 1:24:48 | |
THEY ALL TALK AT ONCE | 1:24:48 | 1:24:51 | |
Now me! Now me! Now me! | 1:24:53 | 1:24:54 | |
Now me! | 1:24:54 | 1:24:56 | |
Hey-ya! | 1:24:57 | 1:25:00 | |
No, Nick. | 1:25:00 | 1:25:02 | |
Pull them up. | 1:25:02 | 1:25:04 | |
Time now for another trip through town on our tram, | 1:25:08 | 1:25:11 | |
this time in the company of the champion beatboxer Grace Savage. | 1:25:11 | 1:25:15 | |
SHE BEATBOXES | 1:25:18 | 1:25:21 | |
Drop the beat. | 1:25:57 | 1:25:59 | |
Beatboxer Grace Savage's show Blind | 1:26:12 | 1:26:13 | |
is at the Pleasance for another week. | 1:26:13 | 1:26:16 | |
Dance is always a highlight of the Edinburgh Festival | 1:26:16 | 1:26:18 | |
and this year is no exception with a host of dazzling productions | 1:26:18 | 1:26:21 | |
from around the world. | 1:26:21 | 1:26:23 | |
Strictly Come Dancing's most effervescent judge Bruno Tonioli | 1:26:23 | 1:26:27 | |
tiptoed his way around town | 1:26:27 | 1:26:29 | |
sampling some of the festival's finest footwork. | 1:26:29 | 1:26:31 | |
In the world of dance, there isn't much I haven't seen, done, | 1:26:35 | 1:26:40 | |
bought the T-shirt and the legwarmers. | 1:26:40 | 1:26:43 | |
I am always hungry for inspiration. | 1:26:43 | 1:26:44 | |
So I've come to the Edinburgh Festival | 1:26:44 | 1:26:47 | |
to catch some of the best dance from around the world. | 1:26:47 | 1:26:51 | |
Next week at the International Festival, | 1:26:54 | 1:26:56 | |
one of my heroines, the late, great Pina Bausch, | 1:26:56 | 1:27:00 | |
is celebrated as her company brings Sweet Mambo | 1:27:00 | 1:27:03 | |
to this year's programme. Unmissable. | 1:27:03 | 1:27:05 | |
But you don't have to wait for the International Festival | 1:27:09 | 1:27:13 | |
for a taste of really world-class dance. | 1:27:13 | 1:27:16 | |
THEY CHANT | 1:27:16 | 1:27:19 | |
THEY YELL | 1:27:21 | 1:27:24 | |
This year, New Zealand's leading dance company, Black Grace, | 1:27:25 | 1:27:29 | |
bring a distinctly South Pacific flavour to the Fringe with | 1:27:29 | 1:27:33 | |
a series of dances by their Samoan founder, Neil Ieremia. | 1:27:33 | 1:27:38 | |
Well, that was impressive. | 1:27:42 | 1:27:44 | |
Tell me a little bit more about the Samoan background, | 1:27:44 | 1:27:46 | |
because obviously it is something that is very important to you. | 1:27:46 | 1:27:49 | |
Sure. My parents taught me traditional dance | 1:27:49 | 1:27:52 | |
when I was young, it's just part of our culture. | 1:27:52 | 1:27:54 | |
Art isn't separate from life in Samoa, it's the same thing, | 1:27:54 | 1:27:58 | |
so everyone's a comedian, everyone's a singer, | 1:27:58 | 1:28:00 | |
everyone's a dancer, it's just part of your life. | 1:28:00 | 1:28:03 | |
The Fa'ataupati, the slap dance that I use in Minoi, | 1:28:03 | 1:28:05 | |
is something that I got taught at a very young age | 1:28:05 | 1:28:08 | |
and, because we have an oral tradition, | 1:28:08 | 1:28:10 | |
it's not written down, so it's very difficult to trace the roots. | 1:28:10 | 1:28:14 | |
I was asking someone once where they thought it came from | 1:28:14 | 1:28:17 | |
and they thought that it came from swatting away mosquitoes. | 1:28:17 | 1:28:20 | |
That's what they thought. | 1:28:23 | 1:28:24 | |
More, I think, it's about psyching yourself up for something, | 1:28:24 | 1:28:27 | |
like a war dance or traditionally what we have in New Zealand, a haka. | 1:28:27 | 1:28:31 | |
So that's some of the origin for the work. | 1:28:31 | 1:28:35 | |
There's a variation in the Gathering Clouds piece, in the Bach, | 1:28:37 | 1:28:40 | |
which is a knife dance performed by the chief's daughter, | 1:28:40 | 1:28:44 | |
-so it's a huge influence on my art. -It's wonderful. | 1:28:44 | 1:28:47 | |
There's a little sequence, I call it the Flock Of Birds, | 1:28:47 | 1:28:51 | |
tropical birds, taking off. | 1:28:51 | 1:28:53 | |
Can you show it to me? Maybe I'll try to do it. | 1:28:55 | 1:28:59 | |
It's just... | 1:28:59 | 1:29:00 | |
That's it, open. | 1:29:02 | 1:29:04 | |
Ah! | 1:29:04 | 1:29:05 | |
-Oh, beautiful. -And then you begin doing this. And a one and a two... | 1:29:07 | 1:29:12 | |
OK, that's more complicated. | 1:29:12 | 1:29:14 | |
BOTH: And a one and a two and a three and a four. | 1:29:14 | 1:29:18 | |
Oh, it's very fast. | 1:29:18 | 1:29:19 | |
And a one and a two and a three and a four. | 1:29:19 | 1:29:23 | |
Oh, I can join the company! I'm done. | 1:29:23 | 1:29:25 | |
The Barrowland Ballet hail from nearby Glasgow... | 1:29:28 | 1:29:31 | |
Morning! | 1:29:31 | 1:29:33 | |
..infuse ballet and contemporary dance | 1:29:35 | 1:29:38 | |
in their latest work, Tiger. | 1:29:38 | 1:29:40 | |
BRUNO GROWLS | 1:29:40 | 1:29:42 | |
GROWLING | 1:29:42 | 1:29:44 | |
Tiger centres on an ordinary family whose life is turned upside down | 1:29:48 | 1:29:52 | |
when something wild enters their life. | 1:29:52 | 1:29:56 | |
You're playing this very pivotal role | 1:29:57 | 1:30:00 | |
of the kind of slightly emasculated husband | 1:30:00 | 1:30:03 | |
and the fun-releasing tiger, | 1:30:03 | 1:30:07 | |
which some people would see as a scary monster, | 1:30:07 | 1:30:10 | |
but for me is actually all about the beauty and the excitement | 1:30:10 | 1:30:14 | |
and the unpredictability of life. | 1:30:14 | 1:30:16 | |
Well, I guess it's just two extremes. | 1:30:16 | 1:30:18 | |
Everybody's got an inner tiger, we just need to realise how to... | 1:30:18 | 1:30:21 | |
I know that. | 1:30:21 | 1:30:22 | |
Within these confines, it's a very rigid movement | 1:30:24 | 1:30:26 | |
and then when Tiger comes in, | 1:30:26 | 1:30:28 | |
he really starts interacting with the audience | 1:30:28 | 1:30:31 | |
and the movement's very much... | 1:30:31 | 1:30:33 | |
It's quite spontaneous. | 1:30:33 | 1:30:35 | |
The tiger, when he comes out, he's a little bit over the top, | 1:30:35 | 1:30:38 | |
-he pushes it a bit too far. -I noticed that, yeah. | 1:30:38 | 1:30:41 | |
-It works extremely well. -It should be a little bit frightening | 1:30:41 | 1:30:45 | |
and a little bit in your face, but without... | 1:30:45 | 1:30:48 | |
He never frightened me. | 1:30:48 | 1:30:49 | |
I don't know, maybe because I'm a bit of tiger myself. | 1:30:49 | 1:30:52 | |
The idea is that the set behaves like the tiger, as well, | 1:30:57 | 1:30:59 | |
it's got this sense of danger. | 1:30:59 | 1:31:01 | |
But also this, sort of, joy and the abundance of fruitiness. | 1:31:01 | 1:31:06 | |
At the beginning, it looks like something stifling and sinister. | 1:31:06 | 1:31:10 | |
And it ends up as a fairground. | 1:31:10 | 1:31:12 | |
Yeah, for me the cobweb effect is a really good analogy | 1:31:12 | 1:31:17 | |
for this idea that you think that you've got these four walls | 1:31:17 | 1:31:20 | |
and you've got to stay contained in them, | 1:31:20 | 1:31:22 | |
but in fact the walls don't really exist. | 1:31:22 | 1:31:24 | |
-You create your own walls. -Yeah, exactly. | 1:31:24 | 1:31:26 | |
If unleashing your inner tiger isn't your thing, | 1:31:30 | 1:31:33 | |
you can always join in | 1:31:33 | 1:31:35 | |
with something a little bit more familiar. | 1:31:35 | 1:31:37 | |
Five, six, seven. | 1:31:37 | 1:31:39 | |
Oh, look at her movements. | 1:31:39 | 1:31:42 | |
MUSIC: "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" by Beyonce | 1:31:42 | 1:31:45 | |
Well, you see what we get in Edinburgh, a bit of everything. | 1:31:47 | 1:31:51 | |
'Everyone can learn to shake their ass almost like Beyonce.' | 1:31:51 | 1:31:55 | |
But, at this festival, there is something very cool to check out. | 1:31:56 | 1:32:00 | |
This August, an ice skating show is coming to the Fringe, | 1:32:02 | 1:32:06 | |
but Dancing On Ice it ain't. | 1:32:06 | 1:32:09 | |
French Canadian company Le Patin Libre have devised their show | 1:32:09 | 1:32:14 | |
to put paid to tired old notions of figure skating. | 1:32:14 | 1:32:18 | |
What was spectacular et vraiment excitant, amusant, different, | 1:32:18 | 1:32:23 | |
c'est le rock'n'roll on ice! | 1:32:23 | 1:32:27 | |
-Oui, un peu... -I've got to go back to English now. | 1:32:27 | 1:32:30 | |
It kind of shakes the cobwebs a little bit. | 1:32:30 | 1:32:33 | |
I'm completely passionate about glide, | 1:32:33 | 1:32:35 | |
it makes me feel happy, that's the way I express myself. | 1:32:35 | 1:32:38 | |
But in the world of figure skating it's very, very conservative | 1:32:38 | 1:32:41 | |
and I wanted to try something else, | 1:32:41 | 1:32:43 | |
so I started this collective of people to experiment. | 1:32:43 | 1:32:46 | |
It's good. It's a bit like what happened with ballroom | 1:32:46 | 1:32:48 | |
when we came into the scene and we kind of made it... | 1:32:48 | 1:32:51 | |
approachable and acceptable. | 1:32:51 | 1:32:53 | |
In Canada, we're not allowed to dance. | 1:32:53 | 1:32:56 | |
-Dance is forbidden in public skating sessions. -Forbidden? | 1:32:56 | 1:32:59 | |
-Yeah, it's completely forbidden. -You're joking. I don't accept that. | 1:32:59 | 1:33:02 | |
But there are rules like you cannot hold hands, you cannot turn, | 1:33:02 | 1:33:05 | |
-you cannot raise your feet. -Well, you cannot live then. -Exactly. | 1:33:05 | 1:33:08 | |
Oh, listen, I like a rebel. Rebel, rebel! | 1:33:08 | 1:33:10 | |
The rope started as a technical research, | 1:33:20 | 1:33:22 | |
like the physics of skating are so interesting, | 1:33:22 | 1:33:25 | |
momentum keeps going and with that link between two humans, | 1:33:25 | 1:33:29 | |
something special happens and the rope is about that, | 1:33:29 | 1:33:32 | |
like pulling, like there's a conflict, but then there's harmony. | 1:33:32 | 1:33:35 | |
-But then embracing it and finally escaping it. -Yeah. | 1:33:35 | 1:33:39 | |
BRUNO LAUGHS | 1:33:39 | 1:33:42 | |
As part of the show, | 1:33:42 | 1:33:44 | |
Le Patin Libre also invite the freshly inspired audience | 1:33:44 | 1:33:47 | |
onto the ice, to try out some cool moves for themselves. | 1:33:47 | 1:33:51 | |
I have a confession to make, I don't do ice. | 1:33:51 | 1:33:55 | |
I couldn't possibly risk these wonderful legs, | 1:33:55 | 1:33:58 | |
so I'll let the professionals show you how to do it. | 1:33:58 | 1:34:03 | |
Bruno Tonioli there, and you can see more of Black Grace online. | 1:34:13 | 1:34:17 | |
Now, think of a Ming vase | 1:34:17 | 1:34:19 | |
and you're likely to conjure up an object of great rarity and value, | 1:34:19 | 1:34:23 | |
but there's more to the Ming era than just exquisite porcelain. | 1:34:23 | 1:34:27 | |
A new exhibition at the National Museum | 1:34:27 | 1:34:29 | |
traces a period of | 1:34:29 | 1:34:31 | |
great social, economic and artistic transformation. | 1:34:31 | 1:34:33 | |
Lars Tharp, an expert in Chinese ceramics, guided me around. | 1:34:33 | 1:34:37 | |
The Ming Dynasty ruled from the mid-1300s | 1:34:41 | 1:34:44 | |
and was the world's largest and richest empire for three centuries. | 1:34:44 | 1:34:48 | |
Known as the Golden Empire, it was a time when the arts flourished. | 1:34:51 | 1:34:56 | |
The treasures in this collection tell of a cultural life | 1:34:56 | 1:34:59 | |
which went far beyond the iconic blue and white vase. | 1:34:59 | 1:35:03 | |
This beautiful scroll shows us the Forbidden City | 1:35:04 | 1:35:07 | |
and this signifies the arrival in a way of the Ming Dynasty. | 1:35:07 | 1:35:11 | |
It does, in Beijing. It had arrived years before, down in Nanjing, | 1:35:11 | 1:35:17 | |
which means "southern capital". | 1:35:17 | 1:35:19 | |
But the next emperor but one decided, "No, I want to go up north," | 1:35:19 | 1:35:24 | |
so he did a replica in Beijing of what they'd built in Nanjing. | 1:35:24 | 1:35:29 | |
And this represents something that actually | 1:35:29 | 1:35:32 | |
is virtually unchanged today. | 1:35:32 | 1:35:34 | |
It's one of the great spaces in any human culture | 1:35:34 | 1:35:38 | |
and this functions as a celestial, imperial, administrative capital | 1:35:38 | 1:35:43 | |
for a good 700 years. | 1:35:43 | 1:35:46 | |
I have a theory that, in the minds of the people who designed this, | 1:35:46 | 1:35:51 | |
as well as the people walking up that avenue, | 1:35:51 | 1:35:54 | |
there was the Chinese character for "central". | 1:35:54 | 1:35:58 | |
It's a box with a line going through it, | 1:35:58 | 1:36:00 | |
and the character says zhong. | 1:36:00 | 1:36:03 | |
And the Chinese for China is Zhongguo, | 1:36:03 | 1:36:08 | |
the central kingdom. It is the centre of the centre. | 1:36:08 | 1:36:12 | |
-And all around us is the universe that they created. -Absolutely. | 1:36:12 | 1:36:16 | |
The Ming was a period of huge social change | 1:36:18 | 1:36:20 | |
and was run by a powerful, educated elite. | 1:36:20 | 1:36:23 | |
So we have six very characterful portraits | 1:36:25 | 1:36:28 | |
of clearly very important men. | 1:36:28 | 1:36:30 | |
We're staring into the face of the Ming. | 1:36:30 | 1:36:33 | |
These are amazing portraits. | 1:36:33 | 1:36:35 | |
When I saw these, I thought it's very similar to the realism | 1:36:35 | 1:36:39 | |
you get in the Hans Holbein pictures of the inner court of the Tudors. | 1:36:39 | 1:36:43 | |
These were the absolute top so-called literati. | 1:36:43 | 1:36:47 | |
You're wondering, "Is he looking at us or are we looking at him?" | 1:36:47 | 1:36:50 | |
He was supposed to be one of the great connoisseurs of his time | 1:36:50 | 1:36:54 | |
and told people what was good and what was not good | 1:36:54 | 1:36:57 | |
in the artistic realm. | 1:36:57 | 1:36:59 | |
To become a member of this elite scholar class, | 1:37:02 | 1:37:05 | |
it was essential to pass a strict exam set by the emperor. | 1:37:05 | 1:37:09 | |
The exams they were sitting were to show that they were competent | 1:37:09 | 1:37:14 | |
in the Chinese classics, Confucius and others. | 1:37:14 | 1:37:16 | |
And they had to demonstrate their skill at composition, | 1:37:16 | 1:37:19 | |
but also through the use of the brush. | 1:37:19 | 1:37:22 | |
Amongst this literati class, the mastery of brush and ink | 1:37:26 | 1:37:29 | |
was essential and the art of calligraphy | 1:37:29 | 1:37:32 | |
was seen as the highest form of human endeavour. | 1:37:32 | 1:37:35 | |
These are classic brush pots. | 1:37:35 | 1:37:37 | |
The pots you keep your brushes in for writing letters, | 1:37:37 | 1:37:40 | |
for writing poems and above all for producing scrolls | 1:37:40 | 1:37:44 | |
like the ones we see here. | 1:37:44 | 1:37:46 | |
It's not the traditional, round bamboo shape. | 1:37:46 | 1:37:49 | |
No, it's made of bamboo and I suspect | 1:37:49 | 1:37:51 | |
to get it into that distorted form, | 1:37:51 | 1:37:54 | |
they probably put a girdle round a piece of bamboo | 1:37:54 | 1:37:57 | |
whilst it was actually growing. | 1:37:57 | 1:37:59 | |
It's carved to resemble a pine tree, | 1:37:59 | 1:38:02 | |
and just underneath | 1:38:02 | 1:38:03 | |
there are two cranes which represent conjugal fidelity and long life. | 1:38:03 | 1:38:08 | |
And this is carved by one of the most famous carving families | 1:38:08 | 1:38:13 | |
of the Suzhou area, one of those rare occasions where we actually | 1:38:13 | 1:38:17 | |
know who the artist, the craftsman who actually made this, was. | 1:38:17 | 1:38:23 | |
-That's fantastic. That is a very, very important object. -Amazing. | 1:38:23 | 1:38:27 | |
The scholar artists using these pots were creating | 1:38:32 | 1:38:35 | |
quintessential landscapes of which | 1:38:35 | 1:38:38 | |
there are a couple of stunning examples in this exhibition. | 1:38:38 | 1:38:41 | |
But, for me, the show stopper is an object so small | 1:38:43 | 1:38:47 | |
it could easily be missed. | 1:38:47 | 1:38:49 | |
It's two centimetres long. What are we looking at? | 1:38:49 | 1:38:52 | |
Well, it's a little gold cicada, sitting on a leaf. | 1:38:52 | 1:38:57 | |
And it was found in a family tomb next to the skull | 1:38:57 | 1:39:02 | |
of one of the buried family. | 1:39:02 | 1:39:04 | |
The cicada is an emblem of long life, of immortality, in fact. | 1:39:04 | 1:39:08 | |
Cos the larva lives underground for four years before emerging | 1:39:08 | 1:39:12 | |
and then bursting out of its pupa, becoming this extraordinary bug. | 1:39:12 | 1:39:16 | |
It's sitting on a simple leaf. | 1:39:16 | 1:39:18 | |
Yeah, and the two materials, gold and jade, | 1:39:18 | 1:39:21 | |
are two incorruptible materials. | 1:39:21 | 1:39:23 | |
Jade is reckoned by the Chinese to be the purest form of matter. | 1:39:23 | 1:39:27 | |
And gold likewise does not tarnish. | 1:39:27 | 1:39:30 | |
You can see it looks as though it was made yesterday. | 1:39:30 | 1:39:33 | |
This is one of the most beautiful objects I've seen for a long time. | 1:39:33 | 1:39:37 | |
The Ming Dynasty saw a shift towards a market economy | 1:39:42 | 1:39:46 | |
and amongst its chief exports were the unique ceramics of the day. | 1:39:46 | 1:39:50 | |
Unsurprisingly, Lars has singled out an exceptional piece | 1:39:50 | 1:39:53 | |
from this collection. | 1:39:53 | 1:39:55 | |
Porcelain evolves in China and the thing they like about porcelain | 1:39:55 | 1:39:59 | |
is it's white and it sparkles. | 1:39:59 | 1:40:02 | |
Not only white, but also translucent. | 1:40:02 | 1:40:04 | |
-It's a domestic wine jar... -With a beautiful, beautiful lid. | 1:40:04 | 1:40:08 | |
And the lid is the thing that always disappears. | 1:40:08 | 1:40:11 | |
But here you've got the whole thing | 1:40:11 | 1:40:13 | |
-and it's a lid in the... Can you see the veins on top? -So it's a leaf? | 1:40:13 | 1:40:17 | |
It's a lotus leaf and the little button on top | 1:40:17 | 1:40:21 | |
is where they cut the stem off the lotus, so it's a beautiful wine jar. | 1:40:21 | 1:40:25 | |
Everybody talks about Ming jars and they are usually referring | 1:40:25 | 1:40:29 | |
to blue and white, and blue, as in this jar here, | 1:40:29 | 1:40:33 | |
is achieved by putting cobalt onto the vase | 1:40:33 | 1:40:36 | |
before you put the glaze on. | 1:40:36 | 1:40:38 | |
It then fires and it goes to that blueish colour. | 1:40:38 | 1:40:41 | |
But, at the same time, red, red is the colour of the Ming. | 1:40:41 | 1:40:45 | |
And they happened to discover that by putting copper oxide | 1:40:45 | 1:40:49 | |
onto the piece, if you're lucky, it fires to this spectacular red colour. | 1:40:49 | 1:40:55 | |
As the dynasty goes on, they are beginning to discover that there | 1:40:55 | 1:40:58 | |
are all sorts of other colours they can put on top of the glaze. | 1:40:58 | 1:41:01 | |
Really very, very sophisticated production. | 1:41:01 | 1:41:04 | |
In fact, there's a wonderful fish tank | 1:41:06 | 1:41:08 | |
which is decorated with a lotus pond scene | 1:41:08 | 1:41:12 | |
and among the lotus ponds there's three cranes. | 1:41:12 | 1:41:14 | |
They are painted in underglaze blue and when that stuff starts | 1:41:14 | 1:41:19 | |
hitting Europe in the late 1500s into the 1600s, | 1:41:19 | 1:41:22 | |
then Europe goes "What is this? We can't do this." | 1:41:22 | 1:41:26 | |
And we couldn't do it for another 250 years afterwards. | 1:41:26 | 1:41:30 | |
So we come to the ultimate experience of the exhibition. | 1:41:34 | 1:41:37 | |
And a map like none I've ever seen in my life before. | 1:41:37 | 1:41:40 | |
It's laid out here electronically, but this is the real deal. | 1:41:40 | 1:41:44 | |
This is a contemporary copy of the map presented by Matteo Ricci, | 1:41:44 | 1:41:49 | |
a Jesuit who had based himself in China, | 1:41:49 | 1:41:52 | |
hoping to convert the Chinese | 1:41:52 | 1:41:54 | |
and showing the Chinese what the West knew of the entire world. | 1:41:54 | 1:42:00 | |
A world which the Chinese thought was square. | 1:42:00 | 1:42:04 | |
But which Matteo Ricci told them, "No, it's a sphere," | 1:42:04 | 1:42:08 | |
and this is a projection of a sphere. | 1:42:08 | 1:42:10 | |
And what does that actually tell us about the rest of the world? | 1:42:10 | 1:42:13 | |
Or what does that tell us about the Ming Dynasty? | 1:42:13 | 1:42:15 | |
This is a traditional European map | 1:42:15 | 1:42:17 | |
where there is an attempt at scale, of relative scale. | 1:42:17 | 1:42:19 | |
The Chinese weren't particularly interested in relative scale. | 1:42:19 | 1:42:22 | |
Actually, if you go to Beijing today, you buy a Beijing map, | 1:42:22 | 1:42:25 | |
it is impossible. | 1:42:25 | 1:42:26 | |
They only show important things are big and unimportant things are, | 1:42:26 | 1:42:30 | |
sort of, off to the side. | 1:42:30 | 1:42:31 | |
What does this exhibition reveal to us overall | 1:42:34 | 1:42:38 | |
about the extent and the power and the culture of the Ming Dynasty? | 1:42:38 | 1:42:42 | |
Well, the Ming Dynasty is the last indigenous Chinese dynasty. | 1:42:42 | 1:42:47 | |
So what we're seeing here, if you like, | 1:42:47 | 1:42:49 | |
is the last gasp of indigenous Chinese society. | 1:42:49 | 1:42:53 | |
The Ming begins to falter, through various reasons, | 1:42:53 | 1:42:56 | |
in the early 1600s and it officially comes to an end in 1644. | 1:42:56 | 1:43:04 | |
So what this exhibition represents, really, is the glory of the Ming. | 1:43:04 | 1:43:07 | |
Yeah. Yeah. And the taste. | 1:43:07 | 1:43:10 | |
Ming: The Golden Empire is at the National Museum Of Scotland | 1:43:11 | 1:43:14 | |
until October and you can see another exhibition of Ming artefacts | 1:43:14 | 1:43:18 | |
at the British Museum in London next month. | 1:43:18 | 1:43:21 | |
Time now for our final tram journey, | 1:43:21 | 1:43:23 | |
this time in the company of the Portuguese percussionists, be-dom. | 1:43:23 | 1:43:26 | |
The infectiously energetic be-dom | 1:44:40 | 1:44:42 | |
and they are at the Underbelly for one more week. | 1:44:42 | 1:44:44 | |
Now, as this is our last edition of Edinburgh Extra, | 1:44:44 | 1:44:47 | |
we wanted to leave you with some of our favourite shows. | 1:44:47 | 1:44:50 | |
There's more than a week to go at the Festival, | 1:44:50 | 1:44:52 | |
so, if you are in town, here are some of our discoveries. | 1:44:52 | 1:44:56 | |
Amazing grace and anarchic energy in the immersive circus event, Bianco. | 1:45:01 | 1:45:06 | |
Olwen Fouere's mesmerising tour de force, RIVERRUN, | 1:45:37 | 1:45:41 | |
adapted from James Joyce's Finnegans Wake. | 1:45:41 | 1:45:43 | |
Behold, he returns, renascenent, fincarnate, | 1:45:44 | 1:45:49 | |
still foretold around the hearth-side, | 1:45:49 | 1:45:51 | |
at matin a fact, foe purmanent, fum in his mow, | 1:45:51 | 1:45:55 | |
awike in wave risurging into chrest, | 1:45:55 | 1:45:57 | |
victis poenis hesternis, fostfath of solace, | 1:45:57 | 1:46:01 | |
earthlost that we thought him, pesternost, the noneknown warrior, | 1:46:01 | 1:46:04 | |
from Tumbarumba mountain. | 1:46:04 | 1:46:06 | |
Festival stalwart Lucy Porter's debut play, | 1:46:09 | 1:46:12 | |
The Fair Intellectual Club, | 1:46:12 | 1:46:14 | |
reveals the hidden female history of the Scottish Enlightenment. | 1:46:14 | 1:46:18 | |
'Tis my honour, as a humble clergyman's daughter, | 1:46:18 | 1:46:22 | |
to appear before a club of the most polite Scottish ladies. | 1:46:22 | 1:46:25 | |
We are not all Scottish. Of course, I am English. | 1:46:25 | 1:46:28 | |
Your mother is English. | 1:46:28 | 1:46:30 | |
And Englishness runs on the maternal line! | 1:46:30 | 1:46:32 | |
Not that I have anything against you Scottish ladies, | 1:46:32 | 1:46:35 | |
-although you are sometimes a little rough woven. -The impertinence! | 1:46:35 | 1:46:38 | |
-A club... -My family hails from a place where the ladies are famous | 1:46:38 | 1:46:42 | |
for their refinement, decorum and modesty - | 1:46:42 | 1:46:44 | |
the county of Essex. | 1:46:44 | 1:46:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 1:46:46 | 1:46:49 | |
And suddenly Will is transported into a palatial paradise, | 1:46:49 | 1:46:53 | |
where even his slightest whim can be actualised. | 1:46:53 | 1:46:56 | |
An old video tape conjures up humour and sadness | 1:46:56 | 1:46:59 | |
in the linguistically thrilling Stand By For Tape Back-Up. | 1:46:59 | 1:47:03 | |
The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air is exactly that, | 1:47:03 | 1:47:06 | |
a kind of hip-hop twilight zone. | 1:47:06 | 1:47:09 | |
And, whether you're in Edinburgh or not, | 1:47:13 | 1:47:16 | |
a political thriller you can download | 1:47:16 | 1:47:18 | |
to your smartphone or tablet, City Of The Blind. | 1:47:18 | 1:47:21 | |
You are life-savers. I really, really owe you one. | 1:47:23 | 1:47:26 | |
-Yeah, yeah. -Now, spill, why are we here? | 1:47:26 | 1:47:28 | |
OK, so Francis Lang gave me these massive data sets. | 1:47:28 | 1:47:32 | |
We need to work our way through, find connections. | 1:47:32 | 1:47:35 | |
Someone really does not want this found. | 1:47:35 | 1:47:38 | |
-So that's the end of the road? -No. I just need to go to Vienna. | 1:47:38 | 1:47:44 | |
She's right. It's the only option. | 1:47:44 | 1:47:47 | |
That's me for this year, | 1:47:47 | 1:47:48 | |
but do join Sue Perkins for Edinburgh Nights | 1:47:48 | 1:47:51 | |
on Friday on BBC Two at 10 o'clock. | 1:47:51 | 1:47:54 | |
And you can see more from the BBC at the festival at... | 1:47:54 | 1:47:57 | |
There'll be more performances added every single day. | 1:47:59 | 1:48:02 | |
We leave you tonight, though, with guitar legend Paco Pena | 1:48:02 | 1:48:05 | |
and his new show, Patrias, later this month, | 1:48:05 | 1:48:08 | |
which commemorates Federico Garcia Lorca | 1:48:08 | 1:48:10 | |
and the horrors of the Spanish Civil War. Good night. | 1:48:10 | 1:48:13 |