Episode 15 Film 2011 with Claudia Winkleman

Episode 15

Film news and reviews. Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh review Breaking Dawn, Snowtown and Justice. Jonathan Ross and Barry Norman help celebrate the show's 40th anniversary.

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Hello. Welcome to Film 2011. We're live. If you want to get in touch,


details on the screen. Coming up - the saga continues, as Edward and


bale la return in The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn. You have --


Bella return in The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn. You have to tell me.


You give me no choice. And as we come of age, we look back over the


last 40 years. Happy dirge bay. they say, life begins at 40. First,


The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Bella is absolutely certain that


she wants to spend forever with Edward. Jaib cob starts out the


movie as young -- Jacob starts out the movie as young teenager and


liking the girl he can't get and throughout the whole movie he's


forced to grow up and become his own man and his own wolf. It's


think Edward has proposed 50 times by now. It will be quite nice. At


least he doesn't have to propropose any more. I Edward Cullen take you


Bella Swan. For better, for worse. To love. To cherish. As long as we


both shall live. I'm nothing, if not traditional. Bella and Edward


take their honeymoon on a beautiful island in Brazil. It starts off


quite nice. It just gets progressively worse. There are big


things to figure out here, sex for the first time. Talking wolves. It


is about taking something that is written as a fantasy and actually


bringing the moviegoer along to the degree that they believe in it.


Tell me what is going on. I'm late. My period's late. The honey moon


gets cut short when Bella finds out she's pregnant. Can this happen?


The foetus isn't compatible with your body. It's too strong. Your


heart will give out before you can deliver. Bella wants the baby and


Edward's terrified of it and thinks it will destroy her and thinks she


is ridiculous for thinking she is strong enough to have a vampire.


break the treaty and it definitely causes a lot of stir among the pack


and eventually it tears the pack apart. You don't know what they


bred. We have to protect the tribe before it's too late. You are the


enemy now. Sam won't hesitate. You will be slaughtered. I'm the one


who will lose you. You have to accept what is. You've given me no


choice. They are coming for Bella. If you kill her, you kill me.


Daniel, what did you think? I think lots of people will think it's


another Twilight, but if you are a fan it's significant. Partly,


because it's the first half of the final. There will be part two next


year, but also because so much of what has taken place is coming to


fruition. Edward and Bella going on honeymoon and accidents do happen


and it unfolds, it is up the stick, and the idea of a vampire baby may


strike a non-fan as ridiculous, but Bill Condon, it strikes him too.


He's a very capable kind of filmmaker, but what he's doing here


is approaching the film at arm's length and laughing behind his hand.


It is all too knowing and there are whole scenes, with Jacob and the


talking wolves and they are treated like Mel Brooks. Also, the birth of


the child, but when the child is finally brought forward and held up


and she is called Rinesmae. It is treated like a punchline and it


shouldn't be. I am a mid-of-aged man. I'm not going to say that I


feel involved. I don't. It would be creepy and bogus and weirdly


patronising to pretend, but I think that fans deserve better than this,


because I think they are having the Mickey taken. I laughed a lot. I


have to say, there is a moment and I don't want to give too much away,


but a foam cup and Bella drinks and everybody was howling with laughter


and obviously it is unintentional. However, I think they might all be


in on the joke. I imagine every time Bill says cut, everyone thinks


they bought it. The idea that Taylor Lautner is running and


ripping off his clothes in seconds. I can't be mean, because it's not


for me. I'm a middle-aged woman. It is like being mean about Peppa Pig.


The only thing that I liked about this, is the first three movies


they were so full of angst and this poor girl, chewing her lip off and


in this the decision has been made and I felt they were moving on.


think Twilight is all about that. I think you are right, probably lots


of people were in on the joke, but for fans it's not a joke and I


think it does a disservice to them and the actors. Robert Pattinson


could be completely forgiven for his eyes wandering elsewhere. He is


thinking of his life beyond this. He still is turning up for work and


bothering. Kristen Stewart, I think is one of the real success stories


and she is the one person who is taking this seriously and giving it


gusto and conviction and she is the saving grace. The rest of the film


is delivered in quote marks. OK. We did laugh out loud. We shouldn't be.


I know, but I did! Next, take Take Shelter. A father who is plagued by


visions, and whether to protect his family from the coming storm or


from himself. I've been having these dreams and they start with a


kind of storm. I'm thinking about cleaning up that storm shelter out


back. I first started thinking about Shelter in 2008. It was


during my first year of marriage and I had been thinking a lot about


marriage and what it means to be married and all this other stuff


and I was in love and life was really good, but I had this


overwhelming sense that the world outside of my world was in for


something bad on the horizon. anyone seeing this? I think that's


the thing about the characters. I think the people can identify with


what he's going through. It's somebody who feels like something


is wrong or something bad is going to happen. I'm dog this for us. I


know you don't understand. The storm is a Met fore -- metaphor for


any kind of trouble or instability. The world is inherently a fragile


place. Things can go like that. You never know when that might happen


or why it might happen, or whether you are going to see it coming or


whether you are not going to see it I think the question is, do you let


that incapacitate you, or do you find a way to deal with the anxiety


and accept it? I think that's what he is struggling with. It's pushed


to an extreme in this film and more than anything, it's because it's a


piece of art. To me it's very poetic and it's a metaphor. It's


not meant to be always taken literally. This storm could


represent a lot of different things. Are you OK? I thought this film was


so incredibly powerful. Even though it's not a horror, it is horrifying.


It feels incredibly timely if you read the papers and watch the news.


You feel like the world might come to an end. He certainly feels like


that. I think Michael Shannon and Jessica Chastain is fantastic. You


don't feel like you are watching actors. It has a quiet power. I


would be amazed if anyone could watch this and sleep well. I didn't.


Michael Shannon is a strange actor because she is human tobasco sauce.


He has been a great ingredient in lots of films. If you remember


Receive -- revolutionary Road. It's a film where he'll be in every


scene and he's playing a character who is clearly very troubled, which


he has done a lot of before. I think it works well and it works


beautifully, because his performance is underplayed for all


of the film. Also, the character that he is playing is someone who


at the same time he's gripped by the visions, is also rational and


he's aware that he may be losing his mind. It feels rooted in


reality and in the reality of a family struggling for money. That's


why it works well. Jessica Chastain is equally good. She is clearly in


79% of the movies relessed this year. It's a very impressive


package. What did you think of the CGI, because I found his visions


absolutely terrifying. There aren't many of them, but they are somehow


so lifelike? Absolutely. It's integral. We think about the Statue


of Liberty covered in snow and all the rest, but it's on a much more


realistic and human level, so you have the brooding skies that aren't


quite right. It looks like a thunderstorm, but there is


something else. When it starts raining it is raining motor oil or


brown suss stance, so it sounds demented, but it feels like this is


what the end of the world would be like. It's very nicely put. The


film is very well made. It's nicely paced and measureed. It's a very


solid, striking movie. Unforgetable. Take Shelter will be in cinemas on


Friday, 25th November. Next, thanks to an inspired tweet from someone


called Song Warmonger. This week instead of our usual top five,


Antonio, Chris and Catherine share their favourite homage film moments.


Filmmakers have kept everything alive through homage. My favourites


are - Cleo by the great Left Bank director. It bur less beings the


silent films of the likes of Harold Lloyd, -- burl less beings.


Christian Slater in Heathers. He has spent his adult career has


spent his career doing impressions of Jack Nicholson. However, he look


like a younger, better Jashing -- Jack. Slater nails the restlessness


and deep disquiet and humour of the young Nicholson. Ham and cheese in


the microwave and feast on a turbodog. It is spot on. Rubbish.


If you ask me his homage is a full- blown rip-off. It should be a


playful wink to the past and Point Break, to whit, Hot Fuzz. Simon


Pegg here. It's so steeped. Nick Frost is a man who say massive fan


4th a trick for any director who wants to show off his a Dolly's him.


Alfred Hitchcock used it in vertigo. He wanted to induce a sense of,


well, vertigo in his audience. Zoom in and sent out to achieve the


effect. It has been relentlessly copied ever since, and the gold


standard of homage goes to Steven Spielberg who used it to stunning


effect in Jaws. When I think homage, I think animation and it does not


get more brilliant than the South Park movie tribute to Disney's


Little Mermaid song. # I wish I could be part of your


world #. # I want to live up there. #.


It forces us to consider the softer side of Satan. We could not make a


list of great homage without mentioning this sequence from


battleship Potemkin. I guarantee you have seen a reference to this


somewhere in the films of Woody Allen, Alfred Hitchcock, Francis


Ford Coppola and Terry Gilliam. And We have had brilliant tweeds. I


would like to read one, his favourite, at some Like It Hot.


Saying, wedded to pick up that cheap trip? From Scarface.


Next, a film about a husband out for revenge.


She has several deep lacerations, internal bleeding. Sorry to hear


about your wife, is she OK? We can take care of him for you.


represent an organisation. I don't know what you are talking about.


You don't know what I am talking about. It will not cost anything


financially but we may ask a favour from you in the future.


committed suicide. We just need you to do one thing. Nobody said


anything in the agreement about killing anybody. Get out of my life.


Tell them everything. A promise is a prize. Let's not forget what we


did for you. -- a promise is a promise. We are just a few citizens


As is often the case with Nicolas Cage Movies, the best and worst


thing about this is Nicolas Cage. It starts promisingly, he is


dancing in a way only Nicolas Cage can, he has some kind of sequinned


face mask on and you are thinking, I am in, but quickly do think, I


wish I was out. He is quite -- it is quite a grubby revenge may be


that turns into a conspiracy thriller and it is muddled and far-


fetched and also quite dull. The problem at the centre of it is the


casting, the Miss casting of Nicolas Cage, because he is playing


an Everyman here with the world's largest wardrobe of casualwear, and


he wants to do the right thing, which is not what Nicolas Cage is


about, he is outlandish and flamboyant and larger than life. It


is like asking Heston Blumenthal to cut your dinner and then getting


crispy pancakes. I love those! Don't we all? It puts you in mind


of a film from last year which was the best Nicolas Cage has made in a


long time. He cannot help wishing you were watching that film or that


his character from that would come into this film. It is weird,


because it is obviously a thriller, but it is strangely not that


thrilling. There are some great films out this week. We are about


to talk about another one. I don't know if I would fully recommend


Justice. I don't think I would recommend it on any level! It has


January Jones, Guy Pearce, Nicolas Cage. If it was anybody else, I


don't think it would be in cinemas, am I right? Right and wrong. There


are things that are fun about it, it is a film giving people


instructions I have a mobile phones but they are always incredibly


elaborate, saying, go into the drugstore, buy a packet of gum, do


a roly-poly, wash your car, come back in. The villains' identifying


marker his Cuban heels snakeskin boots, which seems like it is from


an episode of Quincy in 1975. I am more fond of it in hindsight.


Talking about it I go, I would see it again. There are small pleasures,


but they are small. Time now for the questionnaire. It


is a treat. This week it is Tom Hiddleston.


The Fabulous Baker Boys, I love that film. There is a scene where


they are arguing about Michelle Pfeiffer's character in a hotel


room. They are playing brothers and they are real brothers and it


always makes me laugh when Jeff Bridges throws a pineapple at his


brother and it seems so authentic. He is so cool in that film, it is


effortless. One of those performances which is so natural,


wearing a suit, playing the piano. Michelle Pfeiffer is singing, and


it is sexy and fantastic. The last of the money can. I felt


the last 20 minutes of that film is some of the most breathtaking


cinematographer -- the last of the man he cans. It is telling the


story with complete silence. When she jumps off the side, I felt I


cried the tears of a man for the first time instead of the tears of


a boy, which is a ridiculous thing to say, but it really knocked my


socks off. That brings me today and a Day Lewis, -- Daniel Day-Lewis, I


think that is his most complete performance. Running at full tilt


through the forest and shooting a rifle, while running at full tilt,


and he green loans it with his teeth, and that is not acting, it


is incredible -- heat pre-loads it. Righteous Kill, starring Robert De


Niro and Al Pacino, it seemed the magic was not there. There is a


scene where they are in the gym, working out. They are not working


very hard in the gym and not working very hard at solving the


crime. It does not quite ignite. need a better reason why he could


be a suspect, OK? PMS, got to be. Jason Bourne is probably the most


efficient assassin with a good heart in cinematic history. The


best moment was when he runs rings around Joan Allen and David and


sends them on a wild goose chase. He calls him and Matt Damon says,


where are you? David replies... am sitting in my office. I doubt


that. Why would you doubt that? you were in your office right now


we would be having this Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones, all


three of them. Just because! I am probably showing my use all my age,


but that actor playing that character in that hat, wearing that


leather jacket, riding that horse to that John Williams theme tune


I love him. Next come as no tan, based on the


true story of the 16-year-old boy who get involved at last --


Snowtown, based on the story of a boy who gets involved in


Australia's most notorious gang. Along comes a guy who offers this


boy some hope. But more in, how are you doing?


cleans the place up, makes them food, they have never had someone


like this before. It is all their Christmas is at once.


When John met Jamie he was 14. Will your mum like this? Probably


not. The fact that he found a father


figure or mentor in this man seduced by him was intriguing to me.


He does not have any direction or ambition in life, he is just


apathetic and wandering through, waiting for something to come along,


and that is why when John comes along he sees this guy as an


amazing person and wants to join in his world. He sucks them in, he is


such a chasm it -- such a charismatic guy. Slowly but surely


through manipulation, he brings them into his line of thinking.


While we are sitting here some little kid is being touched up.


ends up torturing and killing these people along with three other men


and Kris Boyd. Before he knows it, it is too late and he is involved -


- and this boy. Why not do something about it?


I never wanted the violence in the film to lead like a front character


like it usually does in horror films. To me, it was like a love


story, a father-son relationship film that went out of whack in a


really horrific way. We have cast people from the actual area, and a


fine there is an incredibly strong voice in the film from the area


that is authentic and true. The reason we did this is to see a


story underneath that was very human and question why and how


something like this happened in this particular area.


I don't know how to describe this firm other than the fact that it is


definitely one of the most chilling, scariest films I have ever seen,


and also incredibly powerful. Daniel Henshall is phenomenal in it,


bat is not to be gay word. Not at all. -- that is not to beat a word.


It is based on true events, which makes it more terrifying. What is


amazing about it is that it is just so brutal, and so cold, and yet


he's so charismatic. People should be aware there is a certain team to


it, an incredibly tough guy, one scene in particular where your


natural response is that what you are seeing is so brutal you want to


get up and walk out. That is a compliment of sorts, believe it or


not, and people should stick with the film because it is incredibly


powerful piece of film-making. Without wanting to put people off,


those scenes that I have talked about are not what upsets you about


the movie. What is so affected is that where this is taking place,


the suburbs of Australia, where the politicians and police had


abandoned people and it is possible to go around killing people and


nobody cares, nobody is bothered remotely, and I think it was


touched on in the clip, what is genuinely chilling is this is a


film about a father and son relationship, a boy who has no male


father figure, and John Bunting comes along, a weirdly charismatic


figure, and it is almost like, people think of the Texas chainsaw


Massacre, the scene which always gets me is the family dinner which


is not grotesque and obscene, and it is the same some version of the


family unit here. We should mention Animal Kingdom because lots of


people are comparing with it. Is that fair? They feel like different


films. There are similarities. Set in the same parts of Australia, the


so Muller cinema geography, but I think the movie reminds me more of


something like portrait of a serial killer. This is something different.


Fell of the week? Snowtown is a fine movie. -- film of the week.


This week, the Film show celebrates its 40th birthday so we look back


over 40 years. 1971, Jim Morrison found dead in


Paris, Arsenal winning the Double, but it was not all bad news.


The premise for a Film 71 would -- was that it would be an essay from


one person like a column in a newspaper and would not pull


punches. What was the secret of its excess? It contains an


extraordinary number of ravishingly pretty girls. 175 million people a


year go to the cinema in this country, and they want to know what


is going on, and I think a programme that tells them what is


going on suggests what might be People love films. They love


hearing about films and seeing people talking about films. Back


then, hard as it is for people to realise, you had no other way of


seeing it in advance. You saw coming attractions when you were at


the cinema, or there was the show on the BBC. The show has had a


mixed bag of presenters, some or recognisable than others. -- more


recognisable than others. A clutch of family films. What has happened


to the dear, old horror movie? We'll begin with a charming story.


That was Peter Sellers. We have Fast Times. I'm your attendant this


week. I think being paid to go to the movies is a definition of


paradise and sometimes I wonder what on earth am I doing watching


this tripe? Mr Barry has gone away to make some films and I've been


asked to keep shop. The longest is Barry Norman. I wasn't sitting


there addressing the nation. I liked to think I was talking to an


individual. I have nothing against it. I rather enjoy it. What I


object to is a movie like this that aims and misses and scores a


bullseye on bordem. For a broadcaster to get into the


livingroom is incontinuingible and Barry had that. I remember some


wonderful interviews with Barry Norman and not wanting it to be


over. I've got to go out and spend $55 million. That's all it steaks.


No star was too big to avoid a grilling from Barry. You do


sometimes have a reputation for being a difficult man to work with


from a director's point of view. Is that fair? You won't hear that from


any good directors. It's a preposterous plot. Yes, it is.


There is the pro-lobby. And then anti? I'm dying to hear this.


Overnight success in your case took about 15 years. It was a long night.


Is this superstardom going to change your life? No, I've had my


change of life. Sometimes Barry got a grilling himself. Why do you do


this thing? Probably because I like it. Largely because I like it.


right. You like women or anything like that? Yes, I like women.


like them? Yes. You do. There was an incident with Robert diNero.


sat down to interview him and as I expected he was mono syllabic and I


got angry because he was waisting - - wasting my time and then I asked


him a question he didn't like. was originally going to be


considered for the role in Big, which Tom hanks took. We found this


remarkable, so Barry asked the question to him. He went ballistic.


He said you had to get that one in, didn't you? I said what are you


talking about? He said, you know. I swept out after him. I thought I'm


going to lose my presenter. We were knows-to-nose snarling at each


other. He sort of said, "I was told you were a good guy." I don't know


what planet he's from, but he's not from this one. After nearly three


decades Barry finally called, cut. My thanks to you for watching and


all the talented people who have made this a pretty damn good


programme over the years. I was honoured and flattered to get the


job. I auditioned for it. We have splashed out and bought a new sofa,


but other than that, it's business as usual. When we started I was on


one of my periodic more bloated periods, so I didn't like the way I


looked. People were very kind to say he does seem to know what he's


talking about, because I'm just a very enthusiastic amateur.


brought his own brilliant style to the role. You look like you have


dressed as a burglar today. We look like a Christmas tree. Thank you


for wearing the pinstripe. Speaking as a straight man who appreciates


male beauty. I can't speak as a straight man. We make movies.


watch them. I don't know how many people see all the films.


anyone sat in my chair and you've seen the film and hated it and you


have said I liked it. Let's not bring Robin Williams into it. You


want to try working for a living. You want to. You see how I suffer?


There's absolutely nothing of worth in this film. Dull, biblical deluge


of awfulness, dire, woeful, depressing failure. Too-dimentional.


Dreary, poor, rubbish. You can't polish a terd. So there. The show


also has the greatest theme tune in the history of great TV theme tunes.


Yeah, even better than Dallas. hated it. I hated it. I wanted it


to be replaced with something more jamming. Maybe grime. I think it's


sophisticated and metropolitan and it strikes for some reason I can't


explain, a deeply emotional note. Various heads of department and


people have suggested a change, but you do not change the signature


tune. It is iconic. It might have been a friend's birthday and we


went out to a posh hotel for a meal and it was one that had a pianist


in the bar area. As we walked in, he saw me and he started playing


the theme. Everyone looked over and I thought this is temporarily my


theme and it was such a lovely moment. Even then I remember going


over to him and I said, "You know that's Barry's theme?" Like


everybody who goes to see films, everyone has an opinion. It's


interesting hearing what Claudia's opinion is and Barry's. It's always


been very good. You go on there and you are dealing with intelligent


people. It's the pre-eminent television programme about the


movies. I rather like the way that two people present it. I felt


several years ago that the style in America of two people presenting


the programme is quite good, so it's rather nice and on the


occasions when I can see Claudia's face when she pushes her hair back,


she looks rather pretty. We see this guy and he's like 40 or


something and he's like Prince of Wales or a Lord or the king, but


not the king now, the king yonks ago in the 80's or something when


everything was black and white. He tries to give a speech and he's


going, abuaabu. That's all from this edition from film 75 and from


this series. We hope to return in the autumn with another series


which will be called, surprise, surprise Film 79 and will be four


years ahead of its time, so until then it's good night from me and


it's good night from him. That's all from tonight. Next week, we'll


discuss Moneyball, 50/50 and The Deep Blue Sea. Playing us out, Snow


White and the Huntsman. Thank you very much for watching us. Good


night. I'm Chris continue Stewart. Here's an exclusive look at our new


movie, Snow White and the Huntsman. I hope you enjoy it. Trn It once


pained me to know that I'm the cause of such despair, but now


their crys -- cries give me strength. Mirror, mirror, on the


wall, who is fairest of them all? You are the fairest. But there is


another destined to surpass you. Consume her heart and you shall


live forever. Find me someone who doesn't fear the dark forest to


Film news, reviews and interviews with Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh.

Film news, reviews and interviews with Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh. In this episode, they review Breaking Dawn, the latest from the Twilight saga. Plus Australian thriller Snowtown and Nicolas Cage in Justice. Plus we celebrate the show's 40th anniversary and take a trip down memory lane with past presenters Jonathan Ross and Barry Norman.

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