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Hello. Welcome to Film 2011. We're live. If you want to get in touch,

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details on the screen. Coming up - the saga continues, as Edward and

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bale la return in The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn. You have --

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Bella return in The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn. You have to tell me.

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You give me no choice. And as we come of age, we look back over the

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last 40 years. Happy dirge bay. they say, life begins at 40. First,

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The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn, Bella is absolutely certain that

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she wants to spend forever with Edward. Jaib cob starts out the

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movie as young -- Jacob starts out the movie as young teenager and

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liking the girl he can't get and throughout the whole movie he's

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forced to grow up and become his own man and his own wolf. It's

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think Edward has proposed 50 times by now. It will be quite nice. At

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least he doesn't have to propropose any more. I Edward Cullen take you

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Bella Swan. For better, for worse. To love. To cherish. As long as we

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both shall live. I'm nothing, if not traditional. Bella and Edward

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take their honeymoon on a beautiful island in Brazil. It starts off

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quite nice. It just gets progressively worse. There are big

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things to figure out here, sex for the first time. Talking wolves. It

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is about taking something that is written as a fantasy and actually

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bringing the moviegoer along to the degree that they believe in it.

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Tell me what is going on. I'm late. My period's late. The honey moon

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gets cut short when Bella finds out she's pregnant. Can this happen?

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The foetus isn't compatible with your body. It's too strong. Your

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heart will give out before you can deliver. Bella wants the baby and

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Edward's terrified of it and thinks it will destroy her and thinks she

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is ridiculous for thinking she is strong enough to have a vampire.

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break the treaty and it definitely causes a lot of stir among the pack

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and eventually it tears the pack apart. You don't know what they

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bred. We have to protect the tribe before it's too late. You are the

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enemy now. Sam won't hesitate. You will be slaughtered. I'm the one

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who will lose you. You have to accept what is. You've given me no

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choice. They are coming for Bella. If you kill her, you kill me.

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Daniel, what did you think? I think lots of people will think it's

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another Twilight, but if you are a fan it's significant. Partly,

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because it's the first half of the final. There will be part two next

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year, but also because so much of what has taken place is coming to

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fruition. Edward and Bella going on honeymoon and accidents do happen

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and it unfolds, it is up the stick, and the idea of a vampire baby may

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strike a non-fan as ridiculous, but Bill Condon, it strikes him too.

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He's a very capable kind of filmmaker, but what he's doing here

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is approaching the film at arm's length and laughing behind his hand.

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It is all too knowing and there are whole scenes, with Jacob and the

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talking wolves and they are treated like Mel Brooks. Also, the birth of

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the child, but when the child is finally brought forward and held up

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and she is called Rinesmae. It is treated like a punchline and it

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shouldn't be. I am a mid-of-aged man. I'm not going to say that I

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feel involved. I don't. It would be creepy and bogus and weirdly

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patronising to pretend, but I think that fans deserve better than this,

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because I think they are having the Mickey taken. I laughed a lot. I

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have to say, there is a moment and I don't want to give too much away,

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but a foam cup and Bella drinks and everybody was howling with laughter

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and obviously it is unintentional. However, I think they might all be

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in on the joke. I imagine every time Bill says cut, everyone thinks

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they bought it. The idea that Taylor Lautner is running and

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ripping off his clothes in seconds. I can't be mean, because it's not

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for me. I'm a middle-aged woman. It is like being mean about Peppa Pig.

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The only thing that I liked about this, is the first three movies

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they were so full of angst and this poor girl, chewing her lip off and

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in this the decision has been made and I felt they were moving on.

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think Twilight is all about that. I think you are right, probably lots

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of people were in on the joke, but for fans it's not a joke and I

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think it does a disservice to them and the actors. Robert Pattinson

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could be completely forgiven for his eyes wandering elsewhere. He is

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thinking of his life beyond this. He still is turning up for work and

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bothering. Kristen Stewart, I think is one of the real success stories

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and she is the one person who is taking this seriously and giving it

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gusto and conviction and she is the saving grace. The rest of the film

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is delivered in quote marks. OK. We did laugh out loud. We shouldn't be.

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I know, but I did! Next, take Take Shelter. A father who is plagued by

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visions, and whether to protect his family from the coming storm or

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from himself. I've been having these dreams and they start with a

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kind of storm. I'm thinking about cleaning up that storm shelter out

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back. I first started thinking about Shelter in 2008. It was

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during my first year of marriage and I had been thinking a lot about

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marriage and what it means to be married and all this other stuff

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and I was in love and life was really good, but I had this

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overwhelming sense that the world outside of my world was in for

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something bad on the horizon. anyone seeing this? I think that's

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the thing about the characters. I think the people can identify with

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what he's going through. It's somebody who feels like something

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is wrong or something bad is going to happen. I'm dog this for us. I

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know you don't understand. The storm is a Met fore -- metaphor for

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any kind of trouble or instability. The world is inherently a fragile

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place. Things can go like that. You never know when that might happen

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or why it might happen, or whether you are going to see it coming or

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whether you are not going to see it I think the question is, do you let

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that incapacitate you, or do you find a way to deal with the anxiety

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and accept it? I think that's what he is struggling with. It's pushed

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to an extreme in this film and more than anything, it's because it's a

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piece of art. To me it's very poetic and it's a metaphor. It's

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not meant to be always taken literally. This storm could

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represent a lot of different things. Are you OK? I thought this film was

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so incredibly powerful. Even though it's not a horror, it is horrifying.

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It feels incredibly timely if you read the papers and watch the news.

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You feel like the world might come to an end. He certainly feels like

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that. I think Michael Shannon and Jessica Chastain is fantastic. You

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don't feel like you are watching actors. It has a quiet power. I

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would be amazed if anyone could watch this and sleep well. I didn't.

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Michael Shannon is a strange actor because she is human tobasco sauce.

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He has been a great ingredient in lots of films. If you remember

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Receive -- revolutionary Road. It's a film where he'll be in every

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scene and he's playing a character who is clearly very troubled, which

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he has done a lot of before. I think it works well and it works

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beautifully, because his performance is underplayed for all

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of the film. Also, the character that he is playing is someone who

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at the same time he's gripped by the visions, is also rational and

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he's aware that he may be losing his mind. It feels rooted in

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reality and in the reality of a family struggling for money. That's

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why it works well. Jessica Chastain is equally good. She is clearly in

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79% of the movies relessed this year. It's a very impressive

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package. What did you think of the CGI, because I found his visions

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absolutely terrifying. There aren't many of them, but they are somehow

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so lifelike? Absolutely. It's integral. We think about the Statue

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of Liberty covered in snow and all the rest, but it's on a much more

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realistic and human level, so you have the brooding skies that aren't

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quite right. It looks like a thunderstorm, but there is

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something else. When it starts raining it is raining motor oil or

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brown suss stance, so it sounds demented, but it feels like this is

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what the end of the world would be like. It's very nicely put. The

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film is very well made. It's nicely paced and measureed. It's a very

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solid, striking movie. Unforgetable. Take Shelter will be in cinemas on

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Friday, 25th November. Next, thanks to an inspired tweet from someone

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called Song Warmonger. This week instead of our usual top five,

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Antonio, Chris and Catherine share their favourite homage film moments.

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Filmmakers have kept everything alive through homage. My favourites

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are - Cleo by the great Left Bank director. It bur less beings the

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silent films of the likes of Harold Lloyd, -- burl less beings.

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Christian Slater in Heathers. He has spent his adult career has

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spent his career doing impressions of Jack Nicholson. However, he look

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like a younger, better Jashing -- Jack. Slater nails the restlessness

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and deep disquiet and humour of the young Nicholson. Ham and cheese in

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the microwave and feast on a turbodog. It is spot on. Rubbish.

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If you ask me his homage is a full- blown rip-off. It should be a

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playful wink to the past and Point Break, to whit, Hot Fuzz. Simon

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Pegg here. It's so steeped. Nick Frost is a man who say massive fan

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4th a trick for any director who wants to show off his a Dolly's him.

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Alfred Hitchcock used it in vertigo. He wanted to induce a sense of,

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well, vertigo in his audience. Zoom in and sent out to achieve the

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effect. It has been relentlessly copied ever since, and the gold

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standard of homage goes to Steven Spielberg who used it to stunning

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effect in Jaws. When I think homage, I think animation and it does not

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get more brilliant than the South Park movie tribute to Disney's

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Little Mermaid song. # I wish I could be part of your

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world #. # I want to live up there. #.

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It forces us to consider the softer side of Satan. We could not make a

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list of great homage without mentioning this sequence from

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battleship Potemkin. I guarantee you have seen a reference to this

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somewhere in the films of Woody Allen, Alfred Hitchcock, Francis

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Ford Coppola and Terry Gilliam. And We have had brilliant tweeds. I

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would like to read one, his favourite, at some Like It Hot.

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Saying, wedded to pick up that cheap trip? From Scarface.

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Next, a film about a husband out for revenge.

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She has several deep lacerations, internal bleeding. Sorry to hear

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about your wife, is she OK? We can take care of him for you.

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represent an organisation. I don't know what you are talking about.

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You don't know what I am talking about. It will not cost anything

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financially but we may ask a favour from you in the future.

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committed suicide. We just need you to do one thing. Nobody said

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anything in the agreement about killing anybody. Get out of my life.

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Tell them everything. A promise is a prize. Let's not forget what we

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did for you. -- a promise is a promise. We are just a few citizens

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As is often the case with Nicolas Cage Movies, the best and worst

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thing about this is Nicolas Cage. It starts promisingly, he is

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dancing in a way only Nicolas Cage can, he has some kind of sequinned

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face mask on and you are thinking, I am in, but quickly do think, I

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wish I was out. He is quite -- it is quite a grubby revenge may be

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that turns into a conspiracy thriller and it is muddled and far-

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fetched and also quite dull. The problem at the centre of it is the

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casting, the Miss casting of Nicolas Cage, because he is playing

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an Everyman here with the world's largest wardrobe of casualwear, and

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he wants to do the right thing, which is not what Nicolas Cage is

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about, he is outlandish and flamboyant and larger than life. It

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is like asking Heston Blumenthal to cut your dinner and then getting

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crispy pancakes. I love those! Don't we all? It puts you in mind

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of a film from last year which was the best Nicolas Cage has made in a

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long time. He cannot help wishing you were watching that film or that

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his character from that would come into this film. It is weird,

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because it is obviously a thriller, but it is strangely not that

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thrilling. There are some great films out this week. We are about

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to talk about another one. I don't know if I would fully recommend

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Justice. I don't think I would recommend it on any level! It has

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January Jones, Guy Pearce, Nicolas Cage. If it was anybody else, I

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don't think it would be in cinemas, am I right? Right and wrong. There

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are things that are fun about it, it is a film giving people

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instructions I have a mobile phones but they are always incredibly

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elaborate, saying, go into the drugstore, buy a packet of gum, do

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a roly-poly, wash your car, come back in. The villains' identifying

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marker his Cuban heels snakeskin boots, which seems like it is from

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an episode of Quincy in 1975. I am more fond of it in hindsight.

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Talking about it I go, I would see it again. There are small pleasures,

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but they are small. Time now for the questionnaire. It

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is a treat. This week it is Tom Hiddleston.

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The Fabulous Baker Boys, I love that film. There is a scene where

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they are arguing about Michelle Pfeiffer's character in a hotel

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room. They are playing brothers and they are real brothers and it

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always makes me laugh when Jeff Bridges throws a pineapple at his

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brother and it seems so authentic. He is so cool in that film, it is

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effortless. One of those performances which is so natural,

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wearing a suit, playing the piano. Michelle Pfeiffer is singing, and

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it is sexy and fantastic. The last of the money can. I felt

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the last 20 minutes of that film is some of the most breathtaking

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cinematographer -- the last of the man he cans. It is telling the

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story with complete silence. When she jumps off the side, I felt I

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cried the tears of a man for the first time instead of the tears of

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a boy, which is a ridiculous thing to say, but it really knocked my

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socks off. That brings me today and a Day Lewis, -- Daniel Day-Lewis, I

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think that is his most complete performance. Running at full tilt

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through the forest and shooting a rifle, while running at full tilt,

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and he green loans it with his teeth, and that is not acting, it

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is incredible -- heat pre-loads it. Righteous Kill, starring Robert De

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Niro and Al Pacino, it seemed the magic was not there. There is a

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scene where they are in the gym, working out. They are not working

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very hard in the gym and not working very hard at solving the

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crime. It does not quite ignite. need a better reason why he could

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be a suspect, OK? PMS, got to be. Jason Bourne is probably the most

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efficient assassin with a good heart in cinematic history. The

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best moment was when he runs rings around Joan Allen and David and

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sends them on a wild goose chase. He calls him and Matt Damon says,

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where are you? David replies... am sitting in my office. I doubt

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that. Why would you doubt that? you were in your office right now

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we would be having this Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones, all

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three of them. Just because! I am probably showing my use all my age,

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but that actor playing that character in that hat, wearing that

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leather jacket, riding that horse to that John Williams theme tune

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I love him. Next come as no tan, based on the

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true story of the 16-year-old boy who get involved at last --

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Snowtown, based on the story of a boy who gets involved in

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Australia's most notorious gang. Along comes a guy who offers this

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boy some hope. But more in, how are you doing?

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cleans the place up, makes them food, they have never had someone

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like this before. It is all their Christmas is at once.

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When John met Jamie he was 14. Will your mum like this? Probably

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not. The fact that he found a father

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figure or mentor in this man seduced by him was intriguing to me.

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He does not have any direction or ambition in life, he is just

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apathetic and wandering through, waiting for something to come along,

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and that is why when John comes along he sees this guy as an

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amazing person and wants to join in his world. He sucks them in, he is

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such a chasm it -- such a charismatic guy. Slowly but surely

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through manipulation, he brings them into his line of thinking.

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While we are sitting here some little kid is being touched up.

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ends up torturing and killing these people along with three other men

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and Kris Boyd. Before he knows it, it is too late and he is involved -

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- and this boy. Why not do something about it?

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I never wanted the violence in the film to lead like a front character

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like it usually does in horror films. To me, it was like a love

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story, a father-son relationship film that went out of whack in a

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really horrific way. We have cast people from the actual area, and a

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fine there is an incredibly strong voice in the film from the area

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that is authentic and true. The reason we did this is to see a

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story underneath that was very human and question why and how

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something like this happened in this particular area.

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I don't know how to describe this firm other than the fact that it is

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definitely one of the most chilling, scariest films I have ever seen,

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and also incredibly powerful. Daniel Henshall is phenomenal in it,

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bat is not to be gay word. Not at all. -- that is not to beat a word.

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It is based on true events, which makes it more terrifying. What is

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amazing about it is that it is just so brutal, and so cold, and yet

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he's so charismatic. People should be aware there is a certain team to

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it, an incredibly tough guy, one scene in particular where your

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natural response is that what you are seeing is so brutal you want to

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get up and walk out. That is a compliment of sorts, believe it or

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not, and people should stick with the film because it is incredibly

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powerful piece of film-making. Without wanting to put people off,

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those scenes that I have talked about are not what upsets you about

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the movie. What is so affected is that where this is taking place,

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the suburbs of Australia, where the politicians and police had

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abandoned people and it is possible to go around killing people and

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nobody cares, nobody is bothered remotely, and I think it was

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touched on in the clip, what is genuinely chilling is this is a

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film about a father and son relationship, a boy who has no male

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father figure, and John Bunting comes along, a weirdly charismatic

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figure, and it is almost like, people think of the Texas chainsaw

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Massacre, the scene which always gets me is the family dinner which

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is not grotesque and obscene, and it is the same some version of the

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family unit here. We should mention Animal Kingdom because lots of

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people are comparing with it. Is that fair? They feel like different

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films. There are similarities. Set in the same parts of Australia, the

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so Muller cinema geography, but I think the movie reminds me more of

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something like portrait of a serial killer. This is something different.

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Fell of the week? Snowtown is a fine movie. -- film of the week.

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This week, the Film show celebrates its 40th birthday so we look back

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over 40 years. 1971, Jim Morrison found dead in

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Paris, Arsenal winning the Double, but it was not all bad news.

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The premise for a Film 71 would -- was that it would be an essay from

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one person like a column in a newspaper and would not pull

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punches. What was the secret of its excess? It contains an

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extraordinary number of ravishingly pretty girls. 175 million people a

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year go to the cinema in this country, and they want to know what

:30:01.:30:05.

is going on, and I think a programme that tells them what is

:30:05.:30:15.
:30:15.:30:15.

going on suggests what might be People love films. They love

:30:15.:30:18.

hearing about films and seeing people talking about films. Back

:30:19.:30:22.

then, hard as it is for people to realise, you had no other way of

:30:22.:30:27.

seeing it in advance. You saw coming attractions when you were at

:30:27.:30:32.

the cinema, or there was the show on the BBC. The show has had a

:30:32.:30:37.

mixed bag of presenters, some or recognisable than others. -- more

:30:38.:30:43.

recognisable than others. A clutch of family films. What has happened

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to the dear, old horror movie? We'll begin with a charming story.

:30:48.:30:56.

That was Peter Sellers. We have Fast Times. I'm your attendant this

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week. I think being paid to go to the movies is a definition of

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paradise and sometimes I wonder what on earth am I doing watching

:31:05.:31:10.

this tripe? Mr Barry has gone away to make some films and I've been

:31:10.:31:15.

asked to keep shop. The longest is Barry Norman. I wasn't sitting

:31:15.:31:20.

there addressing the nation. I liked to think I was talking to an

:31:20.:31:25.

individual. I have nothing against it. I rather enjoy it. What I

:31:25.:31:31.

object to is a movie like this that aims and misses and scores a

:31:31.:31:37.

bullseye on bordem. For a broadcaster to get into the

:31:37.:31:43.

livingroom is incontinuingible and Barry had that. I remember some

:31:43.:31:47.

wonderful interviews with Barry Norman and not wanting it to be

:31:47.:31:54.

over. I've got to go out and spend $55 million. That's all it steaks.

:31:54.:31:58.

No star was too big to avoid a grilling from Barry. You do

:31:58.:32:01.

sometimes have a reputation for being a difficult man to work with

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from a director's point of view. Is that fair? You won't hear that from

:32:05.:32:12.

any good directors. It's a preposterous plot. Yes, it is.

:32:12.:32:18.

There is the pro-lobby. And then anti? I'm dying to hear this.

:32:18.:32:23.

Overnight success in your case took about 15 years. It was a long night.

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Is this superstardom going to change your life? No, I've had my

:32:28.:32:32.

change of life. Sometimes Barry got a grilling himself. Why do you do

:32:32.:32:40.

this thing? Probably because I like it. Largely because I like it.

:32:40.:32:46.

right. You like women or anything like that? Yes, I like women.

:32:46.:32:56.
:32:56.:32:57.

like them? Yes. You do. There was an incident with Robert diNero.

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sat down to interview him and as I expected he was mono syllabic and I

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got angry because he was waisting - - wasting my time and then I asked

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him a question he didn't like. was originally going to be

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considered for the role in Big, which Tom hanks took. We found this

:33:18.:33:26.

remarkable, so Barry asked the question to him. He went ballistic.

:33:26.:33:31.

He said you had to get that one in, didn't you? I said what are you

:33:31.:33:34.

talking about? He said, you know. I swept out after him. I thought I'm

:33:34.:33:40.

going to lose my presenter. We were knows-to-nose snarling at each

:33:40.:33:44.

other. He sort of said, "I was told you were a good guy." I don't know

:33:45.:33:50.

what planet he's from, but he's not from this one. After nearly three

:33:50.:33:55.

decades Barry finally called, cut. My thanks to you for watching and

:33:55.:33:59.

all the talented people who have made this a pretty damn good

:33:59.:34:02.

programme over the years. I was honoured and flattered to get the

:34:02.:34:08.

job. I auditioned for it. We have splashed out and bought a new sofa,

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but other than that, it's business as usual. When we started I was on

:34:12.:34:16.

one of my periodic more bloated periods, so I didn't like the way I

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looked. People were very kind to say he does seem to know what he's

:34:20.:34:24.

talking about, because I'm just a very enthusiastic amateur.

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brought his own brilliant style to the role. You look like you have

:34:29.:34:34.

dressed as a burglar today. We look like a Christmas tree. Thank you

:34:34.:34:39.

for wearing the pinstripe. Speaking as a straight man who appreciates

:34:40.:34:44.

male beauty. I can't speak as a straight man. We make movies.

:34:44.:34:50.

watch them. I don't know how many people see all the films.

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anyone sat in my chair and you've seen the film and hated it and you

:34:54.:34:58.

have said I liked it. Let's not bring Robin Williams into it. You

:34:58.:35:03.

want to try working for a living. You want to. You see how I suffer?

:35:03.:35:08.

There's absolutely nothing of worth in this film. Dull, biblical deluge

:35:08.:35:14.

of awfulness, dire, woeful, depressing failure. Too-dimentional.

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Dreary, poor, rubbish. You can't polish a terd. So there. The show

:35:21.:35:26.

also has the greatest theme tune in the history of great TV theme tunes.

:35:26.:35:31.

Yeah, even better than Dallas. hated it. I hated it. I wanted it

:35:31.:35:39.

to be replaced with something more jamming. Maybe grime. I think it's

:35:39.:35:43.

sophisticated and metropolitan and it strikes for some reason I can't

:35:43.:35:49.

explain, a deeply emotional note. Various heads of department and

:35:49.:35:52.

people have suggested a change, but you do not change the signature

:35:52.:35:57.

tune. It is iconic. It might have been a friend's birthday and we

:35:57.:36:01.

went out to a posh hotel for a meal and it was one that had a pianist

:36:01.:36:08.

in the bar area. As we walked in, he saw me and he started playing

:36:08.:36:12.

the theme. Everyone looked over and I thought this is temporarily my

:36:12.:36:16.

theme and it was such a lovely moment. Even then I remember going

:36:16.:36:21.

over to him and I said, "You know that's Barry's theme?" Like

:36:21.:36:25.

everybody who goes to see films, everyone has an opinion. It's

:36:25.:36:28.

interesting hearing what Claudia's opinion is and Barry's. It's always

:36:28.:36:33.

been very good. You go on there and you are dealing with intelligent

:36:33.:36:40.

people. It's the pre-eminent television programme about the

:36:40.:36:45.

movies. I rather like the way that two people present it. I felt

:36:45.:36:50.

several years ago that the style in America of two people presenting

:36:50.:36:56.

the programme is quite good, so it's rather nice and on the

:36:56.:37:00.

occasions when I can see Claudia's face when she pushes her hair back,

:37:00.:37:05.

she looks rather pretty. We see this guy and he's like 40 or

:37:05.:37:07.

something and he's like Prince of Wales or a Lord or the king, but

:37:07.:37:12.

not the king now, the king yonks ago in the 80's or something when

:37:12.:37:15.

everything was black and white. He tries to give a speech and he's

:37:15.:37:20.

going, abuaabu. That's all from this edition from film 75 and from

:37:20.:37:23.

this series. We hope to return in the autumn with another series

:37:23.:37:28.

which will be called, surprise, surprise Film 79 and will be four

:37:29.:37:32.

years ahead of its time, so until then it's good night from me and

:37:32.:37:38.

it's good night from him. That's all from tonight. Next week, we'll

:37:38.:37:42.

discuss Moneyball, 50/50 and The Deep Blue Sea. Playing us out, Snow

:37:42.:37:46.

White and the Huntsman. Thank you very much for watching us. Good

:37:46.:37:53.

night. I'm Chris continue Stewart. Here's an exclusive look at our new

:37:53.:37:59.

movie, Snow White and the Huntsman. I hope you enjoy it. Trn It once

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pained me to know that I'm the cause of such despair, but now

:38:07.:38:12.

their crys -- cries give me strength. Mirror, mirror, on the

:38:12.:38:20.

wall, who is fairest of them all? You are the fairest. But there is

:38:20.:38:26.

another destined to surpass you. Consume her heart and you shall

:38:26.:38:33.

live forever. Find me someone who doesn't fear the dark forest to

:38:33.:38:42.

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