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Hello and welcome to Film 2011. We are live if you want to get in

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touch. The details are on the screen. Coming up tonight: Brad

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Pitt is looking for a home run in Moneyball. If we win with this team,

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we change the game for good. Everything is at stake for Rachel

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Weisz in the The Deep Blue Sea. not blaming you. There is dark

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comedy in 50/50. Me? Yes. That doesn't make any sense. I don't

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smoke. I don't drink. I recycle. Plus Stephen Frears talks about the

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making of My Beautiful Laundrette. First, Moneyball, starring and

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produced by Brad Pitt, based on the book by Michael Lewis. It is the

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story of Billy Beane, General Manager of the Oakland As. There

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are rich teams and there are poor teams. Then there's 50 feet of crap

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and then there's us. Welcome to Oakland! My job is to take this

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team to the Championship. I need more money. It is a classic

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underdog story. You have a team that has a $40 million payroll.

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It's never going to work. It is an unfair game. Billy is in the

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process of trying to figure out when the odds are stacked against

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you how do you even the playing field. Your goal should be to buy

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wins. Who are you? When I meet Brad's character I have all these

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ideas that are pretty pradical and pretty frowned upon. -- radical and

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pretty frowned upon. People are overlooked for a variety of biased

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reasons - age, appearance, personality. Of the 20,000 notable

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players for us to consider, there is a Championship team of 25 people

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that we could afford. Everyone else in baseball undervalues them.

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It is the saying the Earth is round instead of the Earth is flat. He

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makes me the youngest assistant GM ever. We are going to shake things

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up. Tell them. Want me to speak? When I point to you, yes. This is

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the new direction of the Oakland As. We are card counters and we are

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going to turn the odds on the casino. You don't put a team

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together with a computer. Adapt or die! Billy had the powers but the

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Peter character was the arsenal. They needed this together to pull

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this off. Billy says he will pay for him himself. When he sells him

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for more next year, he is keeping the profit. They are these two

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unlikely heroes, two Davids versus the one hundred Goliaths. We will

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call you back. Come on! They were courageous and they changed the way

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people thought about this stuff. are doing something unexpected and

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special and the whole city is feeling it. If we win with this

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team, we change the game for good. It was never a movie about baseball.

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It was about how to break people's expectations of what you are

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capable of by original thinking and courageous action. This better work.

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I'm kidding you. Danny, I don't understand sport.

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But I love, really love a sports film. You have a glint in your eye.

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I'm going to, if you are awake, brilliant - hi dad - if you are

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near a computer tweet in or e-mail. Let me say some sports films. Tin

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Cup. Come on. Rocky. Field of Dreams. If you build it, you know

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what is going to happen. True Blue. The Natural. There are hundreds and

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thousands. I don't know why I am talking about sports films because

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Moneyball is not a film about sport. Brad Pitt, it's beautiful, it's an

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exciting film. It is not a sports film but I would recommend it?

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Moneyball, whatever it is, it is not a sports movie. It is almost as

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if they had a post-it note on their head with a list of things they

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weren't going to do. There wasn't going to be the stadium clock,

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there wasn't going to be a cruel injury to the star player, there

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wasn't going to be a single moment of slow-motion. Fine, what's left?

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What we have got instead is this weirdly gripping film about the

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business of sport and the wound Rouse statistics. If anyone is

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still with us after that, it is also an excellent character study -

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- wonderous statistics. It is about Billy Beane. I think it is that, it

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is on that level that it works best. The thing about Billy Beane is that

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he doesn't like baseball either. His life has been wrapped up with

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baseball. When the passion is flowing and when the crowds are

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screaming, all the stuff that a sports movie would revel in, he

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likes to work out and he's kept up- to-date with the results on the

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phone. That is how he relates to the game. It is a business. He

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likes getting the better of people. He is not a baseball fan. It's

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about taking on the old guard, is it? That is what is so exciting.

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Brad Pitt almost said it is about taking on the old guard of

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Hollywood as well. A star is worth $20 million but it is looking at

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what people are really worth. It is worth saying Philip Seymour Hoffman

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is brilliant in it? Also I want to mention Aaron Sorkin. These

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individuals are symbols that are something a bit bigger. I don't

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know if it's got the same pop as The Social Network. It has got Brad

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Pitt. As a younger actor, he used to be self-conscious. He was trying

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to prove himself as an actor. It was always the hand motions. He's

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settled into his own skin a bit more. We will probably talk a lot

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about film stars on tonight's show. Moneyball wouldn't have happened

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without him. It wouldn't be half as interesting without him. I felt it

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was Sorkin-light. If you are a big fan and you love The West Wing and

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you are waiting for a "this is what it means to be American to play

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baseball" - there is none of that. You want to eat up the words?

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are right. For a confirmed Sorking fan, it's still recommended. Yes.

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Next, Terence Davies's adaptation of Terence Raligan's play The Deep

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It's about love. It's about three people who want different kinds of

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love from each other which is a kind of odd relationship, but that

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is what love can do and does do to you. It's about a woman who leaves

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security, she leaves her husband for a younger man who has no money

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and who is mentally unstable in many ways. She just falls in love.

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Freddie, darling, would you come home with me, please? No, I will

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not. You did not leave your husband. She finds sex at 40. It's

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overwhelming. It makes her experience a revelation and the

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revelation is that there can be sensual... I still love you. When I

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was looking for people, I saw Rachel by accident. I looked at her

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name. I Raj my manager and said, "Have you heard of someone called

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Rachel Weisz?" "You are the only one who hasn't." She read it, she

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rang me and she said I would do it. I read the play when Terence

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offered me this film. He did a beautiful adaptation of it. I know

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what it felt like, no primary colour for instance. Everything was

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washed out and really rather faded. I was in houses like that - dark,

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one light, that was it. I wanted to get that over more than anything

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else. A lot of people don't like what I do. One woman jumped up and

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said, "Why are you filming so slow and depressing?" I said it was a

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gift! It always leads to something ugly. What would you replace it

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with? A guarded enthusiasm. It's safer. But much duller. The Deep

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Blue Sea is an adaptation of the Terence Ratigan play from the 1950s.

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I think that is a bit unfair. For a start, I don't know what is wrong

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with that. It is more than very well filmed. It is beautifully

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filmed as cinema. Terence Davies, this is his territory, the early

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'50s. He's got this - he mentioned "luminous" - a good use of words.

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It was shabby as well. He brings that sense of 1950s and he brings

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the sense of London to life as well. So I think it's very wide of the

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mark to suggest that this is just a film with a play where they have

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parked the camera and let the actors do the rest. I don't think

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anyone but Terence Davies could have made this movie. More power to

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him. I thought it was beautiful, like you. I thought it was haunting.

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I thought Rachel Weisz was brilliant. That is a very difficult

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woman to pull off. Somebody who you believe because you are shouting,

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"Go for the bloke with the nice library and the fire who will love

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you forever! Are you mad?" She does it whole heartedly, she totally is

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believable. Also what I love, I have to mention this, Barbara who

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plays her mother-in-law, she might be the most terrifying character

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you will see all year? I hear you. The set is so rich and detailed

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that it almost overwhelms the play a bit. You are wrapped up in the

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creek of the leather arm share that it distracts you from what is going

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on. I will disagree with you about Rachel Weisz. It is a very

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difficult part to play. I don't quite buy it. I do... What? She

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loves him. Tom Hiddleston is incredibly well cast here. He nails

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perfectly that idea of playing the charismatic idiot. If you want to

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see a melodrama, see this instead! Top five time. This week, Chris

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picks his all-time favourite sports films which do contain some strong

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language. Movies and sport make a dream

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pairing. There is an inherent drama in sport that movies have been

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perfecting for years now. Here is my top five. At five, it's Escape

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To Victory. The Germans are powerful. Football has not been

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well served on the big screen. For his movie, John Huston drafted in

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some of the best players of all time - the likes of Pele and

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Sylvester Stallone! You can't helped but be swept along because

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Pele does stuff like this. At four, it's Any Given Sunday. I am totally

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baffled by American Football. But this three-hour epic is on this

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list for one reason - Al Pacino's famous locker room speech. It's a

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We claw with our finger nails to that edge, we know when we add up

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all those inches, that's going to make the difference between winning

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and losing. It's a speech that's been used by

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real life football managers, none of whom can match Al Pacino's

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delivery. Then again wo, can. At number three it's rocky VI. Why?

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Because it's the cheesiest film of all time. It's a film which dared

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at the height of the Cold War to unite America and Russia by getting

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a capitalist and Communist together and making them fight. It's a film

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in which Dolf Lund gren says. I must break you. At number two the

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Hustler. How much am I going to win tonight? Most sport movies aren't

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even about sport. Ten grand, I'm going win ten grand in one nights.

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OK, yes, it's about pool. But it's about overcoming personal demons

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and more besides. In this speech, Paul Newman sums up what it feels

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like to be blessed with genius. of a sudden I have will in my arm.

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The pool cue is part of me. It's a piece of wood, it's got nerves in

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it. I feel the roll of those balls, you don't have to look, you just

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know. I know, Paul. I know. Number one, it's Dodgeball. It propelled

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the little known sport of Dodgeball onto the global stage. It pits

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Vince Vaughn against Ben Stiller's Dwiet Goodman. There's a last

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minute winner, there's a moment of doubt before the ultimate triumph

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and a team of miss fits, while being amazingly funny.

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I'm really sorry. Are you all right? Why would you hit a girl?

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Why? I am so sorry, are you OK? my money, it's the funniest sports

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movie of all time. At the end of the day, you have to

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be pleased with that. This is going to run and run.

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yes. We've had so many tweets I can't read them all out. Chariots

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of fire, Gerry Maguire, quite a lot for The Big Blue. No an mall

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lympics. A comedy now about cancer, yes I just said that, starring

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Jonathan Levine and Seth Rogen. -- Joseph Gordon-Levitt. A tumour?

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Yes. Me? Yes. I don't drink, I don't smoke. I recycle. How do you

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feel right now? Fine. I can't remember being so calm in a long

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time Would you describe what you're feeling as a kind of numbness?

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would describe it as fine. It's a comedy about a young guy who gets

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cancer and how it affects his life and the people around him. I think

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I'm going to throw up. Open your eyes. Look at me, all right? What

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kind of cancer snfpblts it's some rare kind of cancer. What's it

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called? Swanoma... I had a massive tumour in my spine, and secretary-

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general and I are long time good friends. He went through the whole

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deal with me. What are your odds? looked it up and it says 50/50, but

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that's the internet. It's not that bad. That's better than I thought.

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You're going to be fine. Young people beat cancer all the time.

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Every celebrity beats cancer. am ends up comforting the people in

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his life maybe more than they comfort him. Everyone sort of

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freaks out and he has to be like "Are you owe ka. I'm sorry this is

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happening to you." I'm moving in. No. No. I'm your mother Adam.

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Exactly, that's why. Mum, mum. You really think a girl's going to go

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for me because I have cancer? Help me help you get laid.

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think that would work? While he was still sick, we'd were at a bar one

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night. He was having one of the odd interactions with people when they

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found out he had cancer. It's your hook man. It's what you've got.

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that's the first thing I say, "Hello I have cancer?" That's what

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makes you different and sets you apart. You joke about a guy gets

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cancer and his best friend uses it to do all the stuff he always

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wanted to do. Great song. Totally. I have cancer. I was wrong. It was

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weird. We thought there should be a movie that showed the lighter side

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to the experience. It can be sad rbgts tragic and trying, difficult.

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But a movie that exposes the dysfunction and find a way to

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infuse humour into the cancer experience.

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I really liked it. I cried. I thought it would be very smaltzy,

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but it's not. Parts of it are properly out-loud funny. The way he

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tells his parents that he's sick is properly clever. It was a really

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good film. It's funny, a cancer comedy, it's a tight rope act from

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the start. You're thinking, is the film going to make it across? Lots

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of films wouldn't. He would topple off and either give up the comedy

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halfway through or there would be a misjudgment of taste and decency,

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which would be so horrific that it would end someone's career. No-one

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wants to see the Hangover on a cancer ward. It makes it across. A

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lot of the credit will go to Joseph Gordon-Levitt, deservedly so for a

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fine performance. The script is the star here. We saw the script writer

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talking about how he drew from real experience for the story. That

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gives the story a kind of power. Beyond that, he has a really kind

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of canny sense of when to play funny and when not. He realises

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that the funniness comes from other people's reactions and people not

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knowing what it do or say, even professionals. He also knows when

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to stop. He doesn't do it, he keeps the funny coming for an unusually

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long time, but when he stops it's a powerful moment. You end up with a

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rare beast, the feel-good movie that may make you feel good at end.

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It's worth mentioning the supporting cast, Anna Kendrick is

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fantastic and Anjelica Huston. And you like when he's having the

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treatment. There's a couple of nice scenes when Joseph Gordon-Levitt's

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character meets Philip Baker Hall. They are almost throw away scenes,

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but so beautifully handled that they're the film at its best.

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Cary Grant died 25 years ago this month and Antonia looks back on his

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life and work and what made him so special.

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Born in 1904 into a working class family in Bristol, Archibald

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Alexander Leach left home at 15 and joined a troupe of akro bats. He

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travelled to New York and then Hollywood. He starred opposite the

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likes of Mae West who said something rauk us to him in 1933.

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Why don't you come up some time and see me. I'm home every evening.

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Yeah, but I'm busy every evening. Busy? So what are you trying to do,

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insult me? He was looking for work in the early 30s. They were looking

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for faces. If there was one thing he had was a great face. They

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started to use him opposite some of their most glamorous leading ladies.

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So Marlene Dietrich for instance. Any time you have a moment to spare,

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I'd be glad to drop in. I heard you. An embryo of Cary Grant emerges,

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it's a work in progress. This is the opening paragraph in that film.

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Grant was a physical comedian. As a child he was obsessed with the

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keystone cops and that combined with his early training as a

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gymnast meant he liked to move his body in a witty, graceful way.

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There's an unforgettable moment in Holiday when he did a somersault

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for the sheer pleasure of being physically gifted. You know me

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fellas, when I feel a worry coming on, you know what I do... There!

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And then the worries are over. He combined all these different

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facets of star per sown yaz that he saw when he arrived in Hollywood.

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He was a fan of Douglas Fairbanks with his dashing persona. There are

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hints of that. Throw in a kind of cheekiness and his circus

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background gives hints of it too. He's able to inject a sense of play

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into potentially staid or talky material and always seems light on

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his feet. It wasn't until the mid- 1940s that he came into his own as

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the slapstick Prince charming in screwball comedies, with his

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entirely made up transatlantic, rich Playboy voice, he was a genius

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with farcical banter, most beautifully opposite Katharine

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Hepburn. You lied to me. No... was a reduck lus story. I don't

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believe you. You have to believe me. It's part of your unbridled

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imagination once more. There's a great exchange of wise cracks and

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quips. It's a dance they do. He had the perfect rhythm for those kind

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of films that required a cha-cha- cha rhythm to it. It's almost like

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an extension of his physical dexterity and agility that he

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should be so agile with his tongue. I don't like leopards. Think of him

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as a house cat. I don't like cats either. Stand still. Don't be

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nervous. Off screen there were rumours about his sexuality. On

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screen he managed to transmit a deep affinity with his leading

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ladies. You always felt he wanted their company as much as their body.

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That made him so sexy. He was the supreme object of desire. There's a

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sense in which his female leads are kind of like playmates for him, not

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in a kind of Playboy bunny sense, but in the sense that they gently

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mock each other and the women mock his reserve. He mocks their

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overtalkiness or whatever or their overexuberance. Out of This Isn't

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Everything You Are great chemistry is born. Look at Ingrid Bergman

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virtually RAFish him in this scene. I have a chick anyone the ice bomb

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and you're eating it. What about the washing up afterwards? We'll

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eat it with our fingers? Don't we need any plates? Yes. One for you

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and one for me. Get in line. Even Katharine Hepburn came over in

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Charade. How about getting out of here, come on, out. Won't you come

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in for a minute? No, I won't. don't bite, you know. Unless it's

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called for. How would you like a spanking? How would you like a

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punch in the nose? If you compare him to Clark Gable. Gable's a man,

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he was a leading man would wanted to rip off your clothes and drag

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you to bed. Cary Grant wanted to stay up all noigt and talk to you.

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Alfred Hitchcock exploited the fact that Cary Grant looked like a guy

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who could do what he wanted. So droll, urban and sophisticated.

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Might he be a bad guy too? He went that way. I think he got off.

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Thank you. Quite all right. Seven parking tickets. Oh. I think it's

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terribly interesting that Hitchcock who didn't have a lot of use for

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actors, except they were a necessary evil, that Cary Grant was

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the only actor I ever loved. Everyone agrees that he was the

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greatest film star of all time. I think some people undervalue what a

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good actor he was. He did not really do much for the craft of

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acting in terms of innovation, however, what he did was he created

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something more than an actor. He created Cary Grant, a man, that

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people aspire to today. There's no doubt he was a complicated man. He

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binged on hallucinogenics, he married five times. At 62 he

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retired, perhaps it got too hard being carry groont -- Cary Grant.

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Because everybody wanted to be him. Even Cary Grant said he wanted to

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be Cary Grant. Brilliant. Next, Resistance

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starring Riseboroughise and Michael Sheen.

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The invasion continues to advance north and west. We have established

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an observation post in this valley. Resistance is the version of what

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might have happened had the Nazi invasion been successful in 1945 in

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Great Britain. It's told from the perspective of a small, Welsh

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valley. Is your husband at home? If you tell him of my visit when he

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returns, I will be most grateful. My character wakes up one day and

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her husband's gone and each man in the village is gone.

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The civilian must not do nothing which will be considered slightest

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help to the enemy. I appreciate that. My character is in a constant

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inner conflict between following the orders that he was given and

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doing the things that he feels are right morally. I never thanked you

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for helping me. You should hate me. Unusually heavy snow comes in

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during the winter and German soldiers help the women run the

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farms and this uneasy truce develops between the women of the

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valley and the German soldiers. know what happens to collaborators,

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do you? We must leave. I can't leave. If you stay now, you die.

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Trying to deal with the question of collaboration, the nature of those

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two, how they work hand in hand sometimes, that feels like a very

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contemporary discussion to be having at this moment in time.

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the choices that we make that will decide the nature of our resistance

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to nature, of our survival. Our choices will be the mark of who we

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Every bit as Moneyball doesn't want to be a sports movie, Resistance

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doesn't want to be a war movie. The Germans have invaded Britain in

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1945, they steam into Wales. Resistance is a film of meaningful

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glances and silences and ailing livestock. It unfolds incredibly

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slowly. It is a strange criticism for me to make. The majority of my

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favourite films are films in which nothing happens very slowly. There

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is a difference between slowness and a film building to a mood and

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slowness when it is ponderous. For me, Resistance is more often than

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not ponderous. There was one scene where I thought the film had

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stopped on screen. That can't be good. I liked it much more than you.

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I found it moving and ponderous, correct, but I love Andrea

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Riseborough, so I could watch her looking sad for hours. She does a

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lot of that! I also love Wales, Danny. It is my favourite location

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for a holiday, almost. So it looks so incredibly beautiful. I was

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overwhelmed by the landscape? hear you. Wales looks fantastic.

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Not sure the point of the film should be to make Snowdonia look

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attractive even when occupied by Nazis. I hear you about Andrea

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Riseborough. She is a film star. She's not found the film yet. I

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don't know, maybe I'm a bad person, but after the 15th shot of Andrea

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Riseborough looking concerned, I wanted a load of sheep to start

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driving a clown car around! LAUGHTER This is me. OK. I don't

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think that is your film of the week. What is it? It is very difficult.

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It's always good to have Terence Davies in the cinemas. I'm going to

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say 50/50. You? Moneyball with bells on! We are covered. Now it is

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time for Director's Cut. Stephen Frears talks to us about My

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Nothing but a toilet in a youth club! Constant boil on my bum.

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remember the joy, the pleasure and the intelligence, you know, it was

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everything that I liked doing. It was a very, very intelligent film

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and it was everything that I love. It was enormously enjoyable. And

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then it changed our lives. I saw four actors - Tim Roth, Daniel,

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Gary Oldman and Ken Branagh. Daniel was top of the crumpet list. The

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girls squealed. I'm dead impressed by all this. You were the one at

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school, the one they liked? All of them liked me. I need to raise

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money to make this place good. I want you to help me with that. I

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want you to work here with me. funny and good characters. And told

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you something new. It was both educational as well as entertaining.

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It's everything you want. I didn't realise that the gay theme was

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going to be quite so sensational and sort of what took it around the

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world. So I didn't find that particularly original. I thought it

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was very, very good, believe it or not on Thatcherite economics. We

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made it in complete innocence and we made it with a lot of joy and

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with very little care. No, that's the wrong word - we made it with

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immense care. It was very carefree. I remember coming down to the set

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and there was a crane there, "Why was there a crane here?" "You

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ordered it." There is a shot that comes down over the launderette. I

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invented that on the spot. Some days things worked! It is all to do

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with railway lines. I will make sure he is fixed up with a good

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business future. Marriage? working on it. Is Tania a

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possibility? Mmm! Where the hell are you going?! We sent some boy

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out to find a house that was nearest to several railway lines. I

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said let's build a balcony so we got even nearer! The trains became

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a theme. We had a lot of trouble with the ending. I kept saying it

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had to have a happy ending because these characters, you can't turn

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the audience away depressed. It only gets happy in the last ten

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seconds, only in a very eccentric way. It is very interesting, he had

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working with him Hans Zimmer, the most successful composer in the

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world, and he was the boy in the backroom. Stanley used to sit in

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the front room and Hans was working out all that funny man in white

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suit sort of music. Nobody had any idea that a film this scruffy -

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there are people walking around the streets, who would go and see a

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film about a gay Pakistani in a launderette? It touched people.

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can see more from that interview on the Film 2011 website. That is all

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for tonight. Next week, we will be reviewing The Thing, Romantics

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Anonymous and Happy Feet 2. Playing us out is The Descendants, directed

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by Alexander Payne starring George Clooney. It is in cinemas January

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2012. Thank you for watching and good night. My friends think I live

0:37:520:37:57

in paradise. I haven't been on a surf board in 15 years. 23 days ago

0:37:570:38:02

my wife was launched from a powerboat and hit her head.

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might not be able to hear this. She was lonely. Who is he? I would like

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to know who the guy is that my wife was seeing. I have always been the

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back-up parent. I don't know what to do with her! With Elizabeth in

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the hospital, my daughters are testing me. This is Sid. He will be

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with me. I will be more civil with him around. Don't ever do that to

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me again! What would you do if you were me? I would beat him with a

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