Episode 18 Film 2011 with Claudia Winkleman


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Episode 18

News, reviews and interviews with Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh. Featuring a review of star-studded romantic comedy New Year's Eve, and Antonio Banderas's Puss in Boots 3D.


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Hello and welcome to Film 2011. We are live and if you want to get on

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touch here are the details: coming up on tonight's show: An all star

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cast assemble for New Year's Eve. There's double trouble in Another

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Earth. And David Fincher talks social

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networks and dragon tattoos. Plus Terry Gilliam talks to us

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about the making of Brazil. First, New Year's Eve, a Newcombe difrom

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director Garry Marshall. 3, 2, 1. The biggest night of my

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career. All these people have come from all over the world just to be

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here. It only happens, once a year. It is a story revolves around a

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life of several different people on New Year's Eve.

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What I like about it is it's not just about love stories, there are

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a lot of different things going on. I want to go to Times Square

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tonight. I'm 15, this is not a training bra. This is not girls

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gone wild. Every year when New Year's Eve when it ends, you feel

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like you have a fresh start. My new year resolutions, I just took care

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of the first one. You quit your job? Paul is a young energetic, guy.

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The first baby delivered in the new year gets $25,000. Tess is very,

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very pregnant and is going to go into labour at any moment. My water

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broke. That's too early, can you turn it off. How do you suggest I

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do that. Do a down ward dog or upward dog or

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Happy new year! Nothing beats New York on New

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Year's Eve. Danny, I think it is important to always have answers to

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questions you might be asked. What is your favourite pudding, cheese

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cake, what is your favourite animal, otter. What is your favourite

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season, spring. What is the worst film of all time. Could it be show

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girls, could it be Australia, I have news for you, search is over.

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The panic is over. I have found the worst film of all time and it's

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called New Year's Eve. Tltss a moment in it when Lee Michelle

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starts singing. There should be a warning sign. If you had anything

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sharp you would hurt yourself. It is a painful two hours. What do you

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think? I loved it. I didn't love it! Let's talk about the cast. The

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cast is the big selling point. If ever there was a group of actors

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assembled for an Apocalypse movie it is this cast, but that doesn't

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happen. They pair off and teach each other life lessons about

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second chances and listen to your heart. You have Sarah Jessica

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Parker, her daughter running away. You have Robert De Niro, just at

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the point when you think it is not sentimental enough, he used to be a

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credible actor. You have Catherine Heigl and Jon Bon Jovi. You think

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the whole cast will slap each other across the face, that film I would

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go back on Friday and pay money to go and see again. I would take the

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wife, make an evening of it. I would buy the DVD. Unfortunately

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they haven't made that film, they have made this one instead. What is

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embarrassing about it, you have all the actors, Robert denear ra,

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Jessica Biel, all there, isn't it easier to make something good,

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isn't it? You have Michelle Pfeiffer who is the best thing in

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it, the whole thing... What I loved in the screaming, go if you are

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bored, go, because we were all there and there was physical

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groaning, there was, like, stop. Catherine who wrote the script,

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though script is a loose term, I mean, maybe I am not the right

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person for this... You have ears. It is time for the top five this

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week. My favourite film cameos and it does contain some strong

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language. Even the lit littlest cameo moment

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m a movie can go the deepest. Here are my top five.

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At number 5, Orson Wells in the Prepare the standard rich and

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famous contract for Kermit the Frog and company.

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At number 4, Silvester still own in bananas.

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The 25-year-old still own as subway thug number one complete with

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goatee and Cuban heels, some things At number 3, Alec Baldwin. One of

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the greatest thrills cinema has to offer is when an actor turns up for

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Let's talk about something important. In this brutal monologue

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about how to be a better salesman, Alec Baldwin is the most foul

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mouthed sergeant imaginable. Attention, do I have your attention.

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Interest. Are you interested? I know you are, because you close or

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you hit the bricks. Decision. Have you made your decision for Christ?

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At number 2 Deborah winger in Rachel getting married. I know it

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is not a cameo because she turns up in several scenes but her

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appearance as the estranged mother always feels like a cameo.

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everything all right with the wedding?

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The sheer thrill of seeing her so beautiful, tightly coiled in this

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confrontation scene is a prod from At number one, Spike Milligan in

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The Life of Brian. The pythons adored Milligan in the

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Goon Show. When they heard he was in Tunisia where they were filming,

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they asked him to make an Comeeth to us like the scene of the

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grave. A brilliant top five. We have had

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many tweets. Lots about Alfred Hitchcock.

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What is your favourite? Martin score say see After Hours.

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Next Dreams Of A Life, a drama I am looking for any information no

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matter how minor... A woman lice dead for three years and at the

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moment I saw it, I thought I am going to make a film about this.

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Three years and nobody has come looking for her. I didn't want to

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concentrate on the circumstances of how she was found. I wanted to

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concentrate on bringing her back to life and resurrecting her in the

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sense of creating the person that so many people thought she was.

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People gravitated towards her. Everybody fancied her. She reminded

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me of somebody I would like to be. People said she looked like Whitney

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Houston. The project came through to me like any other really as a

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jobbing actor. I think in a lot of documentaries, you get a kind of

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somebody explaining something and then you see it and I wanted to

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move away from that because the beauty of film is you can begin to

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create something that is unsaid. One thing she was clear about was

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to keep me away from the interviews you see in the film, and your first

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port of call, you want those real- life testaments. I felt I was

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pursuing the puzzle to be solved. It is like she never really existed.

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She was a story. It was like someone we made up almost, partly

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because of the fact way... I think some of it is inexplicable, how

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this could happen. I think about her a lot really.

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did she get herself into this situation.

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Dream of a life is a very special movie. You have this tragic story

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and a mystery of how anyone falls through the cracks to this extent

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but particularly someone who was very beautiful and talented. But

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that mystery, what is so impressive, it is the incredible investigation,

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she clung on to this news story which everybody else forgot about

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and has pieced it together and has pulled together the people around

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her and people who know her. I think she's made something

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remarkable here. It is original, imaginative and it is a fine piece

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of filmmaking and detective work. Orson Wells, it is a strange

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comparison to make, it was a cameo film made out of a nugget of a

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person and expanded. Strange comparison, dreaming of a life does

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something similar. I think you might have liked it more than me. I

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found it incredibly heartbreaking. There were certain lines in the

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film you never forget, somebody said "How did she melt into her

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sofa ". I cannot get it out of my head. I read something, somebody

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said, I have seen 40 films and this is the one, I cannot forget her.

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People will take the film different ways but anyone who sees it will

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find it difficult to get out of their heads. There are aspects of

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this movie are are horrific, but you don't come away feeling

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horrified as much as just touched. People will respond differently.

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The brave decision is the casting and having this reconstruction, the

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risk there is that it comes across as an episode of Crimewatch.

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thought the end shot, which I won't give away, is absolutely phenomenal

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and it's very very cleverly released at this time because at

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Christmas you think about reaching out. You watch it and think who

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have I not contacted. That is something everyone will have, I

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hope there is not a Joyce in my life. It's such a strange irony,

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someone said this film does exactly what New Year's Eve spent so much

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money trying to do. Dreams Of A Life is on limited

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nationwide release from Friday 16th December.

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Director David Fincher is not very keen on giving interviews so when a

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rare chance arrows for us to talk We need to talk. Who do you think

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you are? Put some clothes on. I want you to help me catch a killer.

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You have been quoted in the past about talking about making movies

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and making films and there is a difference between the two. Which

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is is The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. It is a very popular

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adaptation of a mass culture phenomenon.

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Hopefully there is stuff in it for repeat viewings, little touches and

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Your report is light in another area. Anything you chose not to

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disclose? He's had a long standing sexual relationship, it wrecked his

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marriage, but not hers. Earlier in your career, there were

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headbuttings with Hollywood, is that somebody you feel you don't

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have to deal with now, you get the respect of those? I don't think it

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is about respect. I think if you are involved in an endeavour where

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you have to get $100 million from somebody to do your craft, you are

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going to have differences of opinion about how it should be

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spent. It is creative Darwinism, the best ideas usually win out.

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terms of being fatalistic, there have been films in the past which

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haven't got the reception, is that something that bothers you or do

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you finish the film and move on. The reception of Fight Club was,

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other than what I had hoped for, it was other than I expected. I

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thought people would understand I don't want to die without any

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scars. Hit me before I lose my nerve. People who are responsible

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for trying to get asses on seats, they felt the movie wasn't funny,

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that it had no wit to it, it was just a bare knuckle boxing picture.

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The fact that it was completely misunderstooned by people whose job

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it was to solicit an audience only created more of a disparity between

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what the audience's expectations was. People that went, went to see

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violence. Thinking about Fight Club and The Social Network, both films

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were talked about, films which said something about contemporary

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reality, is that something you feel obliged to deal with? The Social

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Network was a script I read that I thought was amazingly facile. But I

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think the notion of it being an indictment of a culture was

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something that was trialled on, a little bit heavy after the film

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came out. Is For my mind it was better as a piece of entertainment.

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If it talked about a larger issue which is American or cultural

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exceptional. Facebook is cool. You don't know what it is yet. How far

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it it can go. You know what's cool... A billion dollars. How do

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you balance the relationships on set, I don't think it is

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dictatorial at all. I will say this, if the movie is great, I am going

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to get too much credit. If the movie sucks I am going to get too

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much flap. My first movie was a disaster. I stupidly felt that the

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people financing it had more to lose than I did if it was bad. I

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allowed myself to be to be steered into this communal making and then

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when the shit hits the fan, all of a sudden, you are the guy standing

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there, going who has got a suggestion now. If I am going to

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take the blame, the brunt of it, I am going to make the decisions.

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you had to choose one piece from your career so far that you were

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ploughedest of? I don't know, do the best you can, try to live it

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now. A good motto to live by. I love the hand shake. Also we will

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be bringing you, we will be discussing the girl with a dragon

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Is anyone out there? Another Earth, I guess I would

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describe it as epic, minimalist, science friction dramatic thriller.

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It is basically a drama with someone science friction element

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that serves the purpose of the metaphor. It does have a science

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friction element. All 6.3 billion of us are also living. People

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coming in expecting aliens and lasers and blood and guts and

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nuclear weapons and things growing out of people's heads, that is not

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in the movie, but using the science friction literature ideas, the

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twist on reality to understand something about humans, that is the

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idea. It is about a girl. She does something unforgivable. She goes to

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apologise, she lies to him. Here we have two characters that are

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isolated and when they come together they lift each other's

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spirits up, they find this joy. Even though it is built on a lot,

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she doesn't reveal her identity as the killer of his family. There is

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something bittersweet that is beautiful and joyous about it and

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yet the underpinning is so tragic and you know with all secrets there

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is an expiration date and eventually it is going to pop. It

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is quite beautiful on the one hand We don't know what's out there.

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Let me say, lots of tweets about this. One says very good, very

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promising, fantastic to see original writing in the age of

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remakes. I really, really like this film. It is small, it's deeply

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unsettling. I talked about dream of a life, the girl who created it,

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very impressive, she wrote it, and is in it and it is sci-fi but small

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and I really believed in their relationship. I found it

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heartbreaking. I think I liked it less than you. But it's got a lot

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going for it. The other earth, this very simple idea, nicely executed,

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visually it's perfect. You sense this Apocalypse movie. There is

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this human drama at the centre which works brilliantly, a

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brilliant scientist who causes the car crash, where the wife and child

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are killed and she ingraishiates herself into his life. It works

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very well and a lot of that is due to chemistry. A lot of is it is due

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to the way they move around each other. Two damaged people doing

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this strange dance around each ear. It works beautifully. I don't think

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it is perfect, it is just short of what it could be but it is very

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good. A great ending. A fantastic ending. Antonio Banderos dons a hat

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It is about Puss In Boots and how his legend came to be. The centre

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of that the friendship with the egg. How dare you show your face to me.

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I know you are angry, you have every right, but it is good to see

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you Puss. He is an outlaw that is obsessed with a great sense of

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justice. Puss, can you help us, there's no time to waste. I will do

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it. Considering all the energy and the size of Antonio's personality,

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I can't think of anyone other than Salma who could really match that.

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You are dangerous. Humpty says you like danger. Just think of all the

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trouble we can get into. Fur free to create your own character. They

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suck very much from your personality to create your

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character and that is the way to create it. She is making faces,

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You made the cat angry. You don't want me to get angry. How dare you

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It's not not Shrek five and no singing involved, but actually it

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has a lot to be said for it. There is a story, which is great, not all

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kids have a story but there is one here. It is a spin on Jack and the

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Beanstalk. There is a lot of personality here. More than

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anything else, everyone seems like they are having fun. There is a

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sense of glee and everyone is having a laugh. The dancing is

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brilliant. You know I like any animal dancing. I am the only

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person who thought that Happy Feet 2, marvellous, they dance. Anything

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dancing. But the dancing is brilliant. I am not sure about the

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story. Salma Hayek is brilliant. It is definitely enjoyable. I'm really

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not a fan of grown up jokes in kids movies. I got tired of it in the

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Shrek series, but there is a couple here too good to miss, about what

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might happen to a young innocent egg in prison. There are times

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where you can't argue. The way he drinks milk. What is your film of

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the week. Dream of a life. Directors cut now, Terry talks to

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I was sitting on the beach in Port Talbot. I guy was picking up tunes

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from somewhere in South America, there is a grim reality in this sun

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drenched world. It was about a welling up of my frustrations with

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reality. It seemed like a good beginning. I wrote it for a younger

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man, a slimmer man, a better looking guy. I was offered Tom

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Cruise and all sorts of people. Jonathan was hassling me and he was

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astonishing me. He surprised me every day, because he is inventive.

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There is one moment all these troops have surrounded a girl, he

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suddenly turns up and takes charge. I'm in charge now. That is not me

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directing, that is Jonathan creating a moment, it's brilliant.

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Terrifying and funny. I will include your fine handling of the

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situation in my report. Great. is my moment, to give him all the

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credit he deserves. What was great was take what exists and adapt it.

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It was done in an old mill and there was all this milling

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equipment and we turned it into the clerk's pool. We only had one bit

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of the clerk's pool so we had to find a point, so we had to go back

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to the original and do it again. I don't think I have done anything

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quite as interesting, the energy, the the madness, it is saying so

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much about the husbandel and businessle of bureaucracy. Then

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this man at the top with the horizontal striped suit.

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We used a power station for the under workings of the place. The

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space was utterly phenomenal. I didn't design the film to be a

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seriously, once I saw the cooling tower, I said throw it out, let's

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He was a huge star, the idea of him turning up in a bit part was

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shocking to an audience. I came here for the action, the excitement,

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get in, get out. Now they got the whole country sectioned off.

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became obsessed about this part and how he did it right and we had we

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had to build a set for him. He was going in New York, to watch brain

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surgery. He has a quality, when he is acting, I don't see what is

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going on and just being off two degrees, you don't see it, the

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camera sees it, but I couldn't see it half the time.

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There are so many things I didn't like about Hollywood, and so the

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studio decided they didn't like the film. It was like years of

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frustration with the Hollywood system H H most of the time I was

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convinced I was going to fail, but I did have a certain arrogance and

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a sense of human or. 7 -- humour. The finest moment for me is out of

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Africa was having its premiere, it was biggest day of the year and it

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was announced at an expensive dinner, best picture Brazil. This

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is the LA critics. The film didn't make any money but it didn't matter,

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it is out there, it's alive. You can see more from that interview on

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the Film 2011 website. We have lots of tweets about New Year's Eve.

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"New Year's Eve is a must watch based on that review, I can hardly

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wait ". Next week we will be talking about Sherlock Holmes and

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The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. We will be discussing our films of the

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year. Playing us out is the exotic Your first time in India? Yes.

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The programme features a review of New Year's Eve, a romantic comedy with an all-star cast; science fiction goes art-house in Another Earth; and Antonio Banderas unsheathes his sword for Puss in Boots 3D. Plus Terry Gilliam talks about the making of his masterpiece Brazil.