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This programme may contain strong language. Hello and welcome to the

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programme. We are live. If you want to get in touch, the details are on

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the screen now. Coming up - speerlburg bring Michael Morpurgo's

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War Horse to the screen. Michael Fassbender and Carey Mulligan star

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in Shame. Do you want to play? financial crisis gets the Hollywood

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treatment in Margin Call. That loss would be greater than the current

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market capitalisation of this entire company. First tonight, War

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Horse. We went to meet Steven Spielberg and the cast. It's about

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courage and hope, set against the backdrop of the First World War.

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What is it? A horse they found in No Man's Land. What this horse has

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to teach every human being it comes into contact with, is that they

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should preserve the best in humanity. There's no reel side of

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right and wrong, so telling it through the horse's eye is very

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clever, because here's an animal that has no side. It's very

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important to tell it from that neutral perspective. Be brave., be

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brave. You must have loved the story, but making the horse the

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star, were you not nervous about that, because humans, or an extra

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ter rest tral, or a shark, you can position, but a horse -- ter rest

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tral, or a shark, you can make that to position it, but a horse? Indeed.

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The horse rubs his head all over the dad's woollen jacket and that

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was something that the horse did every time we brought the camera

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around for another angle. Don't take him back. We can't take him

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back until he's broken in. Talk about getting the script together

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with Richard Curtis and Leigh Hall. You wanted Joey to meet as many

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people, is that right? Yes. I wanted Joey to spread his gifts of

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compassion and hope to everybody that he comes in contact with.

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That's what Richard Curtis did in his script and it was his idea to

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keep Alberta way from Joey for an entire act. Would you release him

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to me, Albert? I promise you, man to man, I'll look after him. Joey

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is taken away and sent to frepbs and Albert is too young to en--

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France and Albert is too young to enlist. Gentlemen, it's an honour

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to ride beside you. Make the kiezar rue the day he dared to cross

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swords with us. Let every man make himself his king, country and his

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fallen comrades proud. Be brave. Freer God, honour the king. -- fear

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God, honour the king. Can To get on the set to see that figure saying,

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"We are going to get on some horses and we'll have some great fun." You

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think, I think I'm ready. I can't tell you how thrilling it is. 120

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horses in three lines, charging at 40mph, as fast as a horse can carry

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you and 120 stuntmen screaming hell fury and all the hooves in the ears.

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The thunder of it. It was absolutely breath-taking. Charge!

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The first time I did it I nearly fell off the horse. One of the

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stunt boys turned around and said, "It's a rush, isn't it?" we had 300

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on first night. When I first arrived on Dartmoor there was a

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unit stretching as far as the eye could see. The biggest I've ever

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seen, but actually when we got on set, the experience of filming was

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very intimate. I have to talk about John Williams. The score is

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phenomenal. How does that collaboration work? This year is

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our 40th anniversary. He started playing he sketches of the film

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music he envisions for the film and they are all beautiful and there

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are always too many to choose from. On War Horse especially, when he

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played me the three main themes, I cried, just standing in the room,

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listening to that music. You make us cry. Is that your intent? Every

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movie I've ever tried to direct it I try to make it as emotionally

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lightened as I can. I'm always kaquuesed of sentimentality. I

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don't think it's fair. -- accused of sentimentality. I don't think

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it's fair. I don't go out of my way. The play didn't go out of its way

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to make me cry, but I was a sobbing mess by the end. I wanted to do the

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same with the play for the film to convey that too. You can see more

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from the interview and the rest of the War Horse cast on the website.

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Hello. Hello. What did you think? War Horse is a film from another

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time. I think we'll see lots of comparisons to everything from

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Saving Private Ryan, to Babe. But it reminds me of Gone With The Wind.

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It is epic family entertainment. It is shot on film. Nothing is shot on

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film, but Spielberg has wheeled them out. It just astonishing and

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he doesn't often get quite the credit he deserves a a fail many

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maker. Sometimes he doesn't deserve that much, but here it is superb. I

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urge people to go and see the movie just for the cavalry scene. It is

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beautifully simple and cinematic. Ultimately, sometimes with a movie

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there is a wrardstick you use, which you think -- yardstick you

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use, which is you think is that the film he wanted to make. You saw me

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after the screening. Do my face. I was shellshocked. I was crying. I

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could not stopping crying. I want to start with a tweet. Alex Evans,

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"This is Spielberg's best film in a decade. I wept eight time. Utterly

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brilliant." I thought it was magnificent and you mention the

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fact that it had to be older kid friendly, because it's not R rated

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so he uses clever ways not to show - he shows the horrors of war, but

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not the details, so there is an amazing windmill scene. I won't

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give it away. Call me. You don't see the horror, but you know what

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is happening, but the cast are brilliant and the horse, you emoat

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with the horse. I highly recommend this film. I have to mention the S

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word, which is sentiment. It's Spielberg making a film about World

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War One, and I almost feel to complain is to complaining about

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seeing a ghost story and complaining that there are strange

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noises going on. Go with this. If I had a small bone to pick it's that

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I think the movie has a episodic structure, like the play, where

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Joey the horse moves from character to character. Some are stronger

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than others and I think, I mean, I'll leave it there. I think it

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works. It is a fantastic piece of cinema. I loved it. You have to

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look out for Niels Arestrup. He's just a cadlely grand pa in this.

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You have to work hard. I'm not that cynical. Good. Next, Shame the

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second film by Steve McQueen. It stars Carey Mulligan and Michael

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Fassbender. Your harddrive is dirty. He's a native New Yorker and he has

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a secret and he's a sex addict. During the course of the film you

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see his routine. It's his daily life. It is interrupted by his

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sister. That's Sissy. It's about that friction and what she brings

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from the past and how he deals with her presence and how he deals with

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his affliction. My sister is playing downtown. Can I stay for a

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few days? I'm trying to help you. How are you helping me? You come in

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here and you are a weight on me, a burdern. I can take you somewhere.

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We are family. We meant to look after each other. Events happened

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as children which have put them into different directions and brand

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on, Michael Fassbender's character is introverted and regimented and

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he controls his life and has an addition and he shuts people out.

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What is your longest relationship? Exactly. You can pour. Four months.

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You have to commit. You have to actually give it a shot. I did. For

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four months. The week before we started shooting there was an

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article in the New York Times how young boys were having a really

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hard time sustaining healthy relationships because they were so

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influenced by porn and they had warped ideas about women's bodies

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and it's something that makes people uncomfortable and that's why

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Steve wanted to talk about it. and every one of us is brand on and

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has elements that we can relate to, so we don't want to ice -- isolate

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them. For example, sex addition, that is the guy with the raincoat

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and sweaty palms. No it's an everyday guy. You might see him in

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the workplace or know him in your building. Please pick up the phone.

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We didn't want to sort of give an excuse for the characters and their

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behaviour and set a definitely -- set it definitely in stone.

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# It's up to you New York, New York... #

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APPLAUSE Wow. For a film about sex, no-one

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is having a good time. It's kind of the point. For some people it may

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be a problem. I won't dwell, but talk about the strengths. First

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among them is Steve McQueen. Obviously made his first film,

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Hunger, a few years ago. It's a good-looking movie. It's beautiful.

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There are some great moments, one is to arising out of the blue. It's

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like the equivalent of the cavalry. It's Michael Fassbender and the

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camera follows him in night-time New York. You have absolutely --

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you have absolutely hip tiesed, but there are lower-key scenes. We saw

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it on the subway. He's in that way and eyeing the woman up and it's

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this way of little half-glances and beautifully orchestrated. Obviously,

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a lot of that credit goes to Steve McQueen and the other great thing,

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which is the performance.. Michael Fassbender will get a huge acclaim,

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and Carey Mulligan. They bring characters who could have been

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conseats on paper and ideas. They bring them -- conceets on paper and

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ideas. They bring them to life. It is raw and haunting. What do you

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think? I think it's raw and haunting. I have to tell you

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there's been so much buzz about this film. People in October

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talking. I loved Hunger. I saw Shame. I was so - I was livid at

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the end, because of the ending and livid because I didn't have more

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back story, but I'm quite thick and I like things written down. I was

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thinking they must have had an awful time. I wanted more details.

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The fact he can cry while his sister sings that song. I wanted

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more and to call somebody. I don't have Steve McQueen's number. It's

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lost. I wanted much more information. Interestingly, later

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on we'll talk about a film called A Useful Life and there is a

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brilliant line when a girl says did you like it and he says it will

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grow on you. I can't get Shame out of my head. There is a scene at the

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end involving three people. Not telling you anything else, which is

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- which cue not remove, but it's the unsexiest hour-and-a-half I've

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ever spent in the cinema. I could change that for you. There are

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problems there. In terms of details which don't quite wring true. There

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is a film about sex addition and I don't know if I buy it. There's a

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moment when brand on is clearing out his jazz imagines, I believe is

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the phrase. Who apart from long distance lorry drivers have them

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any more? As a film about addition and about people whose minds are

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somewhere else, it works brilliantly. There are problems.

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It's not perfect. What is so interesting is I've changed my mind

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about this. At least half a dozen times. I am always interested.

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Every new person, I want to know what they see in this. I would

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recommend it because I think that Now it is time for the top five and

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this week Antonia's favourite films about addiction. Some violence and

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bad language is inevitable. There's nothing cinema loves more

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than a narrative about suffering and redemption and portraits of

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addiction not only fit that criteria, but are showcases for

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some of our most talented stars. Here are my top five. At number

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five, Leaving Las Vegas. Nicolas Cage quite rightly won an Oscar for

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his tragic performance as a man drinking himself to death. But what

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is so unusual about this addiction movie is that there's no attempt at

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redemption. You shouldn't drink so much. No going straight. Maybe I

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shouldn't breathe so much. This guy is an alcoholic with a death wish,

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And number four, Dance With A Stranger. Obsessive relational

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obsession. Rupert Everett and a founder Richardson play obsess

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mothers in this tremendous biographical drama about Ruth Ellis.

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You know exactly why you came out. Don't walk away from me. Would you

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like to hit me again? You've asked for it. And I damn well get it.

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this scene, they capture so perfectly the addict's combination

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of self-pity and helpless desire. can see your face. I don't want to

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The urbane anti-hero of this fantastic Belgian film is addicted

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In this particularly shocking scene, he is suddenly overwhelmed by the

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At number two, Boogie Nights. Panna diction, addiction to everything,

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cocaine, sex, you name it. What makes this particular film so

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unforgettable is it looks like the worst long afternoon imaginable.

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make these little mix tapes together. I put my favourite songs

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together. This is Number 11. Unable to stop talking rubbish, unable to

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Cosmo, he's Chinese. And number one, two girls and the guy. -- two girls

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and A Guy. Not a movie about addiction, but Robert Downey

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Junior's personal struggle with drug addiction has been well-

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documented. He suffered terribly in the 1990s. The director wrote this

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music -- movie about a troubled This particular scene in front of

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the Mirror immortalise is the absurdly touching Inside Out

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charisma of Robert Downey Junior in the bleakest period of his life.

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# You might have loved me, too. think it is his best performance.

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Brilliant list. Next, Margin Call starring Kevin pays -- Kevin Spacey

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and Paul Bettany. It takes a look behind the scenes of a New York

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investment bank during the first few days of the 2008 furniture

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crisis. There is some banker's language. These are extraordinary

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times as you must know. I don't understand. He is being let go.

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sorry. I was working on something and they would not let me finish.

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Take a look. Be careful. It is roughly 24-36 hours at a large

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American investment bank on the day they realise the jig is up. A Paris

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Eric had been working on this for some time but could not finish it.

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-- apparently. This morning he asked Peter to take a look. He put

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a few things in that Eric was missing. This is what came out.

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need you guys to come back. Penny due back here now. This is not

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supposed to be a periphery firm, this was supposed to be an example

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of one of the lead investment banks in the United States. It to a

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certain extent, the story was a tragedy. A tragedy of misused

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potential. Studying the ways friction ratios affect things.

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are rocket scientist? I play the head of a trading floor and my

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direct superior is Kevin Spacey. Above him, Demi Moore and Simon

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Baker. Finally, Jeremy Irons. You're speaking with me. If those

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assets decrease by just 25% and remain on our books, that loss

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would be greater than the current market capitalisation of this

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entire company. I have always enjoyed indie films like this the

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most. I like to shoot fast, a light there not to be too much money

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about so we are all working sensibly. We, on a wing and a

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prayer, but descript out to one or two actors and amazingly, they came

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out and said yes, which for a first-time writer-director was

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obviously a dream come true. Actors will always be attracted by good

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scripts and good characters. Not the huge fees, necessarily. It

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doesn't have a bad cast, does it? Up after a crisis such as this,

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often times there's this period of reflection, of wondering what was

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it exactly that I spent my life doing. 1937, 19 74th, 1987. Jesus,

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didn't that fug me up good. It is all the same thing over and over.

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We can't help ourselves. That cast, that subject matter, that setting,

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already this is interesting. We loved inside job and this is, if

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you like, that played out. I think brilliantly well. Thrilling and

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exciting. What I liked most is it would have been so easy to make the

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Bank as the baddies. That would have been easy. It is not that

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obvious. Anything that Jeremy Irons does I'm on board. He is brilliant,

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as is Kevin Spacey for top it doubles as a disaster movie.

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have a film about a bright underling who stumbles upon

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something horrific and he tries to bring it to everybody's attention.

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You're right, what is so interesting about that idea is it

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could be an asteroid, it could be biological warfare. It is the end

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of the financial system as we know it. None of them want to know about

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that. It is about psychology. It is about what happens. Been a disaster

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movie, you save the world. Here, they saved themselves. It is

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fascinating that these are not heroes of Valence, they bring up

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the fact that these are salesmen. We gave the world over to salesmen.

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In terms of cinema, it rings bells with things like Glengarry Glen

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Ross. The script is very good. For first-time director, J C Chandor

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has done a fantastic job. I will be interested to see what he does next,

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but I'm also intrigued by this movie. The cast are all massive

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stars, but they almost cancel each other out. It is not like there are

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a lot of our nose and then in works Kevin Spacey. It works as well.

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These are supposed to be people on top of the world. It dovetails

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nicely with the film. This is highly recommended. Next, A Useful

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Life, the story of a lonely man who passed to adjust to a single life

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 71 seconds

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after the cinema he has worked out The eye thought this film was

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adorable. That clip makes me smile. It is freakishly short. We went in

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and it finished. No bad thing. Jorge Jellinek, you want to pick

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him up and say I want to be your friend. I want to mention the tone

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because City shot in, and transferred to black and white. It

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looks nutty, if that doesn't sound bonkers. What I liked about it is

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it changes quite sneakily halfway through. The first 30 minutes is

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almost like a documentary about this ailing art house cinema in

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Uruguay. It has all but rickety projectors. It is great, but half

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an hour in, it subtly changes and becomes a story of him and his

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battle to find a life outside the cinema. He still has all these

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soundtracks from countless movies in his head and now he has to find

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his own film. He is fantastic. The film is sweet and smart. I am

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alarmed by the idea that men who spend a lot of time in the cinema

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are possibly socially backwards! But that is fine. Clearly that is

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just preposterous. That is a nonsense, we loved chatting. Very

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difficult to choose because all four are great. How would you

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choose your film of the week? tough call. All four films have a

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lot to recommend them. If you are pushing me into a corner, Margin

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Call. Are you? I did not see that coming. War Horse. A Useful Life is

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on limited nationwide release from Friday, 13th January. Log onto the

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website to find out where it will shows. CGI, Lovett or hated?

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Everybody has an opinion. CGI or computer generated imagery gets a

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bad rap. But at its very best, it allows directors to realise a

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vision in a way that otherwise probably would not have been

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possible. James Cameron waited 14 years to make about up until

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technology caught up with him. The biggest film of all time. Now

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there's no limit to what a director can achieve. Tired of standing in

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front of the drab green screen? Not any more. Not with CGI. Look at

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that. Much nicer. Nice and warm. Well, we all know the only worth --

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beach worth being of is a real one and locations are not a heart of

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the movies. It is actors and I really hate what CGI has done to

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them. The movie star is a complicated double thing, part

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person, but character, so to see them dressed up in Velcro running

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up and down green ramps, it ruins what we are looking at, it

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diminishes their power. Think of Lawrence of Arabia. Here we have

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Peter O'Toole commanding a crowd of Jordanians. He is standing in front

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of them as their hero leader. That is actually happening to that actor.

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He has changed, they are changed, It is profoundly more meaningful

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than Brad Pitt and his army of CGI I am as bigger fan of in the moment

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reality as the next person. Indiana Jones would never have been hastily

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improvised had they been shooting on a sound stage. But if Harrison

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Ford -- or if Harrison Ford hadn't been suffering from dysentery. But

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acting in CGI should be no problem for any actor worth their salt.

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Both are equally it official. You have to use your imagination. What

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did Lawrence of Olivier -- long as Olivier say to Dustin Hoffman? Have

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you tried acting, dear boy? really insidious thing about CGI it

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is it is so controlled. No wonder studios love it so much, it can

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never get sick or blown away by a freak tornado. It is the enemy of

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spontaneity and serendipity and magic. Take jaws. Free plastic

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sharks which hardly ever work. Actors sitting around for days and

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weeks and months perfecting dialogue. And then John Williams

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coming up with a score that had to brilliantly imply a shock that was

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hardly ever there. That would never happen now because in LA, someone

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:30:34.:30:37.

would knock up a shock on a laptop. That is a real shooting star, it is

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beautiful and eerie and special. If you saw that now on screen, we

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would assume it had been added in later digitally. I hate fat that

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has happened. In many ways, CGI is the opposite of control. On the

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Adventures of Tintin, Steven Spielberg put his camera anywhere

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How's that for spontaneity? We'll never know for sure, but I'm sure

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that Hitchcock and Orson Wells would have loved playing with the

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toolbox. Wells once called movie making the best train set a boy

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ever had. With CG the boundaries would have been endless. Why is it

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all the same, dull, flat shade of grey? Creatures don't move with any

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gravity. They are so frictionless. Just think of the terrible spiders

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in King Kong. They are weightless. Something that big cannot move that

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fast. It is simple biology. How can any adult look at that and not just

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switch off? It's so boring. I'll grant you up until now, not every

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character has been completely convincing. However, as a tool it's

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still very much in its infancy and the quality control is working.

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Look at the eyes of Caesar here. The eyes have a soulful quality. CG

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had not been able to touch it until now. Are you seriously telling me

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that the actor deserves an Oscar? This is what I hate about this in

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relation to the computer modelling of the human face. It's the

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propaganda. We have to stand around in awe of new tech nomgy and I want

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to say, -- technology and I want to say, "That is not very good." I

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don't see revolutionary performance by a human. I see something

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something absent of the feeling and clumsy and silent movie sized

:32:46.:32:56.
:32:56.:32:57.

emotions. I would love to have seen the real Andy Sirkus. No propaganda

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here, at least not yet. If you ask Andy he'll tell you that CG has

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opened up the floodgates and any actor can be anything he wants to

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be. Already it's given us some of the most memorable images and it's

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only just getting started. The influence on the industry has been

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undeniable, often invisible and profound, like colour and sound

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before it, it is progress at work and that is just beautiful. Well,

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we are still working on it! Brilliant! I love them both. Me too.

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We have had brilliant tweets. I have to read out some. Zoe says,

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"Who needs CGI with films like the Artist?" then Jane says, "Hogwarts,

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a bunch of kids leaping in the air on sticks." It's a good point. Now

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time for the questionnaire and this week it's Tom Hooper. I think about

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the true man Show as one of my favourites, because it is the

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perfect fusion of cinema as commerce and art, in that it's the

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most brilliantly commercial idea, but it also has such moments of

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surrealism. Like when he comes to the edge of his world and discovers

:34:30.:34:39.

it's a wall. The fact that Peter understood how absolutely central

:34:39.:34:44.

reality television was going to be to our culture, way before it had

:34:44.:34:50.

happened and made an incredibly sophisticated analysis and satire

:34:50.:34:56.

of the limits and problems of reality TV and actually imagine a

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more extreme scenario that has yet The immediate one is Kubrick, just

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because he's such an extraordinary towering genius and I definitely

:35:16.:35:23.

owe a debt to him in my own film making. Can you light this scene by

:35:23.:35:28.

candles and create a lens that is fast enough to do that? He had NASA

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to help make the special lenses that were as close to an F1 fast

:35:35.:35:44.

stop than you could get then. are only six Miss Bradys now.

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of the films I watched most and I'm slightly embarrassed to say is

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Black Hawk Down. I think I've walked it endlessly, because Ridley

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Scott is such a visual master, that I kept going back and trying to

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work out how he created some of the images. I think the story hooks you,

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because it has a fascination with the detail and the immersion into

:36:17.:36:24.

the experience. There is something about the way he shoots the

:36:24.:36:28.

helicopter sequences and it's the audacity of how he does it. When he

:36:28.:36:31.

puts cameras in the helicopter, so you are directly above another and

:36:31.:36:35.

looking right down on the blades. Also, he's very brilliant at

:36:35.:36:40.

staging action sequences with multiple cameras, so you do have an

:36:40.:36:50.
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extraordinary sense of being inside it. I suppose the other guilty

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pleasure is maybe The Sound of Music. If you imagine reading the

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script, helicopter in over mountains, and find a woman singing

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on top of a green meadow and you probably would think how will I

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pull that off? # The hills are alive with The

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Sound of Music... # There's something about her performance

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that wins you over and disarms you in those first seconds. I certainly

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have the guilty admission that it made me cry, which is crazy,

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because surely I should be well armed against that. That's all for

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tonight. Next week, we'll be back at 11.15 and we'll be reviewing

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Coriolanus, J Edgar, WE and Haywire. Blaiing us out is Wrath of the

:37:46.:37:51.

Titans -- playing us out is Wrath of the Titans, starring Sam

:37:51.:37:54.

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