Episode 13 Film 2013


Episode 13

Film reviews. Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh review vengeance drama Oldboy, biographical drama Kill Your Darlings and quirky father/son road movie Nebraska.


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Hello and welcome to Film 2013. We're live and if you want to get in

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Coming up on tonight's show: Daniel Radcliffe gets poetic as Allen

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Ginsberg in Kill Your Darlings. Are you a writer? No, I'm not. Well,

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you're not anything. Bruce Dern's on the road in

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Nebraska. Your old man is somebody. And Spike Lee remakes Korean classic

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Oldboy. Wherever you are, I will find you.

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Plus James Franco and Jason Statham team up for Home Front and we take a

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look at George Clooney in The Monuments Men. Danny is here and

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we're joined by guest critic, Kevin Maher. First up is Kill Your

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Darlings which recreates a chapter in the lives of the beat generation

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just before they were famous. Daniel Radcliffe leads the cast as poet,

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Allen Ginsberg. You want life, the want the world on fire. Security.

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What the hell are you doing? And you are? I play Allen Ginsberg. He goes

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to Columbia University. He falls head over in love. The illusion is

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this figure. Who introduces me to William Burrows and Jack and then

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everything goes wrong. I want you to meet our host. I have been in a

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relationship with an older man for seven years at this point and I am

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ready to get out of it. He is a professor who won't let me go. I am

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having trouble finding a way of freeing myself from him. So I murder

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him. Yes. We're going to make sure nobody remembers him. All the

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writers are caught up in sort of the aftermath of that murder. It is not

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a laughing matter, but I think it is important to take the fame of these

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characters or the fame they later achieved out of the equation and see

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if the story stands up on its own. Be careful, you are not in

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wonderland. I have heard the strange madness long growing in your soul.

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But you are fortunate in your ignorance, in your isolation. You,

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are who have suffered, find where love hides. Give, share, lose. There

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is something about their, you know, what they stood for at the time that

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I think is the reason they continued to find relevance with every

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generation of teenagers who are looking for some rebellions.

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The death of morality. It is a severe decline in standards. The

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relationship between Allan and us was important. The irony of these

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relationships is when you meet somebody and takes you under their

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wing and sees possibilities in you that you never saw before. They

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encourage you to grow, but never as high as themselves. You are ordinary

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and I made your life extraordinary and in the same way they tell

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writers and writing class that you have to metaphorically kill your

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parents, you have to surpass or cut this person out of why you are life

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in order to find your own voice and become yourself. And that to us, was

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the heart of the movie. I only want you both to be lovely about this

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film. With that in mind. Go ahead. You might be disappointed. Everyone

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knew Harry Potter was destined for a life of drug abuse and it does work

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on that level. I can't be as enthusiastic as you really. I think

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there has been a lot of terrible films made about the beat and this

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isn't a catastrophe. It needs mob more than likeable. The directing is

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over excited. The performances are sturdy. I love Daniel Radcliffe. I

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will be gentle with you, I think maybe there is two films here, isn't

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there? There is the film at the start which is about the beat poets

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and the great film is about writers are often about fictional writers,

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Wonder Boys and there is a reason that this is so which is because

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films about writing and about the creative process are boring. The act

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of writing is dull to watch and the mistake, the first-half of this film

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makes is to show you a film about creative writing which is nail my

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face to the seat! They get around that because you

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have this thing with Daniel Radcliffe where writing perhaps the

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most crazy, intense, physical act of anyone's life. Daniel Radcliffe

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stands up and pleasures himself. We have all done that. I am doing it

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wrong because I have never gone that far. It can't decide what kind of

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film it wants to be. It has this historical nugget at its heart, a

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true crime story, but it doesn't want to be that movie. It wants to

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be this rug rats history of the beats. Almost like a Jack Ass with a

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library card. The characters that you have been

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for the first 60 minutes have come across... You think it is a

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nightmare... For the first nightmare 60 minutes the protagonists have

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turned out to be twangers. I am going to be positive again about the

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performances. When you encounter Burrows sat in a bathtub. And Daniel

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Radcliffe, I can only quote a friend of mine who said Daniel Radcliffe is

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improving and that's true and that's not meant to be the grotesque

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backhander that it sounds like. He is working hard here. Allen Ginsberg

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was working hard to fit in and to find... You don't believe he is

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madly in love with that boy and then he is heart broken. I was hooked.

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Can I, because I think you are both adorable, but wrong. Freda Cooper

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sent a text, " One of the best films I have seen this year." I just

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wanted more. I wanted more of the murder. I wanted more, I wanted more

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of William Burrows to be honest. I was thinking, "What is William

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Burrows up to now?" The women were always sort of sent off to go and

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stick the kettle on and be shot at. It is hard to identify. At one point

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a character... You are not happy. A character at one point says,

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"Hayman, let the prisoners out and let's have fun." What's the matter

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with that? A star, don't listen to them!

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Next, Director Alexander Payne follows up The Descendants with

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Nebraska. Veteran Bruce Dern stars as Woody Grant who thinks he's won a

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million dollars. We are now authorised to pay $1 million to

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Woodrow T Grant. You didn't win anything, it is a scram. I guess it

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is a father, son road trip from Nevada to Nebraska. It is none of

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your business. It is. I am your son. The son tries to give the father

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some shred of dignity. We can't drop everything and go to Nebraska. It is

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a selfless and a selfish act in that sometimes we try to give others

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dignity to make ourselves feel better for being associated with

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them in the first place. I never knew the son of a bitch wanted to be

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a millionaire. It was the perfect length for a screenplay. It was

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comic and sad. How much longer is he going to be around? The oldest

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cliche is the truest 90% of casting is directing. I choose actors that

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gave me a vivid version of real. Why didn't you tell us you was rich?

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David said not to. We would like to see what $1 million looks like.

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Bruce Dern is a smart actor and he had a good sense of what the

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screenplay required, plus the guy had read the script. He had a bit of

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time to consider the character and to become that character to some

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degree. I was aspiring the acting style has a degree of the flatness

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of real life and in real life people can be quite flat. Everybody saying

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how Woody Grant is a millionaire. That's no big deal. If I met Woody

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Allen it would never occur to me to say, "Why did you shoot Manhattan in

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black and white. " It would never occur to he moo, I would accept it.

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I understand it is unusual in today's cinematic landscape to shoot

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black and white, but it is not unheard of and it is a perfectly

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beautiful form. You talk about having kids and how many you wanted

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and stuff like that? No. And why did you have us? Because I liked this

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girl and your mother is a Catholic so you figure it out. So you and mom

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never actually talked about whether you had kids or not? I figured if we

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kept on screwing, we would end up with a couple of you. You love this?

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Yes. Relax. Relax. When you see the plot and see the trailer, you have

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to approach a film like this with trepidation and caution because it

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seems, you know, preriged for an old person, child, on a journey, the

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straight story so many films that would use that device to jerk tears.

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Maybe because it is Alexander Payne and because it is the one director

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to doesn't have a number of people. He married this material beautifully

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and at every point he could be going for the emotional jugular it takes a

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left turn. Are you a fan of pain in general? I am a fan of pain. Not

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that, we are all a fan of pain. Pain is good. I am hit and miss with

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pain. Some of the films, they feel a bit cold, emotionally they feel

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cold. It feels like he doesn't be on the side of his characters. He has a

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big brain and he is a philosophy student and he has a bigger fish to

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fry when he is telling stories and sometimes he misses his characters.

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This film, it worked, the world view worked.

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People get hung up about things like 3 D, 3 D has never been a problem in

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Hollywood. In effect, this film, I think was what is so remarkable, it

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is the decheeser, it is the perfect antidote no to that. Alexander Payne

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is the perfect director for this material. There is times in the past

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that he felt like he is sniggering at his characters. He doesn't do

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that with Bruce Dern's character, Woody Allen, but is no one to be

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trifled with and he is the can TAsserous figure you don't see in

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movies. It is beautifully made. It is funny and brave as well because

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you know, it seems it is a wonderful life. American films told us, small

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places are wonderful places and full of people who would lay down and die

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for you. Actually what he says is small towns are terrible places. It

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is not cheaply cynical, but it is cynical enough and it is bracing, it

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is a movie that feels like because it is a faer and son -- father and

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son road trip, any moment it will give you a big cuddle, but it

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doesn't, it smacks you around the head and tells you to grow up.

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I found it moving, but it never goes, "This is what you are going to

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be." Those two boys who played the brothers, there was a clip there of

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them. They are funny, right? I'm going to take issue, I didn't laugh

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out loud. It is a wry chuckle movie, isn't it? If only because with the

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brothers, that's an Alexander Payne weak spot, he can't spot a fat

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person without letting the camera linger on them for a nudge in the

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ribs about that one. The amazing thing is president wife of Bruce

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Dern... June Squib. The wife of an 80 c-year-old man is

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an 80-year-old woman and not a dolly bird. Did you think when you first

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saw her, who is that? We are preprogrammed by Hollywood movies to

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think that a man of certain years will always have a younger woman

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with him. Even with nasal hair like that! She

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had great moments, didn't she? Bruce Dern is monumental here and Stacey

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Keetch. She has a flashy moment that I didn't go for. It seemed that the

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one moment was out of character. That's not what you said off camera!

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She was in Alexander Payne previous movie. If June Squibb's name is not

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being read out for awards, we need to go to LA!

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It is brilliant. Spike Lee has remade the 2003 Korean

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classic, Oldboy. It is a man obsessed with revenge and finding an

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explanation for why he was kidnapped and locked away for 20 years. There

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is strong language. Hello. Can anybody hear me on the

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outside? The suspect is the victim's former husband and father of the

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surviving child. This guy is put in prison for 20

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years and is confronted by his worst demons, himself. Your father has

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been missing for 20 years. If I could somehow bring him here, do you

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think you could forgive him? I could try. What happened? He showed up

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last night. I need your help. I haven't seen the guy in 20 years.

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Hello Joseph. How was your first day of freedom?

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Action! We had to respect the original stories, but make it

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different. The director gave his blessing to josh and myself and said

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whatever you do, make your own film. You might want to think about what

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you are doing here. I have been thinking about it for the last 20

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years. Spike creates an ambiance where anything goes. Everything was

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challenging emotionally and physically I still have muscles that

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haven't bounced back and it has been a year! I pushed it mostly because

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of Spike. Break it down -- when you break it

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down, it is a cold-blooded revenge film. You never stopped to ask the

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most fundamental question of all, why did I let you go? That voice is

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quite extraordinary. What did you think? I hope one day there will be

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a documentary about the making of Spike Lee's Oldboy. It would be

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incredibly depressing, but it will be required viewing. You will find

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out what happened when the executives turned around to Spike

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Lee and demanded the 40 minutes came out of this movie, making a screwed

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up idea more screwed up. You will find out what happened on set when

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Spike Lee had this weird identity crisis and spent half the movie over

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directing everything in sight and then spent the other half wandering

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out to get Starbucks and left the work experience kid in charge and

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you will find out what happened between Spike Lee and one of the

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stars of the film here. For some reason, I can only presume it was

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bad blood between them. He has been encouraged by spike Spike Lee to

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deliver an embarrassing performance. It starts out, I guess it is

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supposed tor more rid ate and it ends up Christopher Biggins.

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But it is not his fault, is it? I don't think it is. It is the script.

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And it is also, it is hard to talk about this film. It is hard for me

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to find any positivity towards it. There is a million ways you can

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approach it and everyone of them is a criticism and you don't want to be

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too snooty about it and you don't want to feel the original was so

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much better, but there is a fundamental difference and it sounds

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pretentious, but it is not. It is important in the Korean film it was

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about a bad, angry man who gets sent to prison for 20 years and he

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becomes badder and more angry and on his first day out of prison he tries

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to rape somebody and there is a twist that kind of gives him the

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tiniest slither of redemption. He goes to prison. He is redeemed and

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he becomes a superhero killer. He is transformed. Is it that you are both

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grumpy, that they made a remake at all? In no, it pains me to say this

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because the arguments put up about remakes are similar policic. I love

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Spike Lee. He is a talented director and a lot of the early movies he

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made are important to me and a lot of other people. This doesn't feel

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like a Spike Lee movie because it always has something of him in it

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and has a spark and signature and humour and this is the most

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humourless film. It is like a Christmas cracker that had the joke

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taken out of it and the toy taken out of it. There is all these

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flamboyant moments. There is men in cravets and it is so joyless and you

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have to, in the end, it becomes like an autopsy. You are dissecting it

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and pointing the finger and trying to work out what went wrong. I think

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the executives came in with the pruning sheers and taking out 40

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minutes... That might have done it. It is the middle is troubled. There

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is no middle. There is a beginning and an end and what should be the

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second act, are you have a couple of jokes and references to the original

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Oldboy and then the explanations of what's going on in the plot because

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the film seems afraid it will forget what is going on in the plot. But if

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you are a 16-year-old kid and you are going with your mates, do you

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think they would like it as a bit of violence to watch? I'm trying to

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think of something positive to say and it is really hard. Maybe with

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the original Oldboy in mind and with the bench mark set lower, it is a

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technically made film. It looks nice. Josh Brolin loses his beer

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belly. This is like a superhero movie. This film is made in America

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and it made $850,000 and you make $850,000 just from people who want

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to come in out of the cold and have a hot dog.

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The next film has Sylvester Stallone. Why did we move out?

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Beautiful house. Horse trails. What else could we ask for? I miss mum.

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Me too. It is about a family who suffer a tragedy. I leave my old job

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behind and I try to be a stay at home dad. We move to a part of the

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country where we try to live a happy life together. Loser. Give it back.

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You want it, get it? There is a little fight in the playground which

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you take part of, right? Yeah, I kind of start the whole thing. I

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want this thing settled and I mean now. This is my fault, I taught her

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to defend herself. Under that happy lifestyle is something quite

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sinister. Feuds, they exist. If someone has an issue with me,

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keep it down. Don't want my kid involved. Jason kind of stumbles

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across the hornets nest of bad characters. I am the ringleader. I

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have worked with Sylvester Stallone many, many times. I recognise what a

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brilliant writer he is. It has a great quality to it and that's what

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got me in. Take him out. It is never that easy. There is man with a gun

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trying to get into the house. I got the kid. Help. Dad. I'm really

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scared. Please hurry. Kevin? Can I say I saw this film 20

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minutes after seeing Oldboy so this to me was like a purifying, edifying

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balm after a merciless shower of sheet. It is a script that's been

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knocking around for ages. It feels like a lovely innocent throw back to

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the 80s. It is a sour drug deal that goes wrong and an attempt to lay low

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in the middle and a bullet, bullet laden climax at the end, job done. I

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had high expectations, it is Staham. Jason Statham, James Franco, this

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film should be fantastic. It is not fantastic. Come on. I am not going

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to complain about a film that's insular, small town, and no one ever

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says top him, "Why is your accent like Jason Statham, the famous

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English actor?" I am going to complain about the action scenes.

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Maybe I'm being picky, but I think for an action movie, the action

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scenes and the fighting should be fantastic. I just want a fight that

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takes place comprehensively. If this film was being shot, I don't think

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because it is an action movie you can toss this stuff off. If it was

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someone's leaving do being shot on a camera phone, you would remove the

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camera phone and give it to the woman in accounts. This man has no

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idea how to shoot a fight sequence. Bobbing up and down behind a pillar.

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Lovely cross cutting all the way through. The bald guy He is not

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there anymore. He has gone. Your expectations are too high. I did

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like it. What about the supporting cast? They are brilliant. James

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Franco is doing this for some kind, there is some private little joke

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going on. He is chuckling away to himself.

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You are, I don't know what to say, what's your film of the week? Home

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Front and Nebraska. It is Home Front and Nebraska. No! That's all from us

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and we will be Back next week when we review The Hobbit: The Desolation

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of Smaug. Phone me! Fill The Void and Robert Redford in All is Lost.

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To play us out, we have the new trailer for the monuments man. Thank

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you for watching. Good night. Mr President, we are at the point in

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this war which is the most dangerous to the greatest historical

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achievements known to man. The Nazis, Amsterdam, Paris. Let's

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protect what's left and find what's missing. How many men? For now, six.

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Well, with you, it is seven. We are going to need your knowledge. We are

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going to need your skill. We went through basic training in England.

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Oh boy. We have been tasked with the fining

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and protecting of over myself million pieces of stolen artwork.

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This is why Hitler didn't bomb Paris. Well, he bombed London. I

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know that. You are not going to have the equipment a or the man power.

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The Nazis are taking everything with them. I am interested in what you

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saw there? Thousands of pieces. We are going to have to jump ahead of

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the third army and get into Germany. You can wipe out an entire

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generation and you can burn their homes to the grown and somehow they

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will still find their way back, but if you destroy their history and

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destroy their achievements it is as if they never existed. That's what

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Hitler wants and that's what we're fighting forment

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Film 2013 casts its critical eye over this week's new cinema releases. Josh Brolin teams up with Spike Lee for vengeance drama Oldboy, a Hollywood remake of Park Chan-wook's 1983 original. Daniel Radcliffe stars as beat poet Allen Ginsberg in Kill Your Darlings plus director Alexander Payne follows up The Descendants with Nebraska, a quirky father/son road movie.


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