Episode 14 Film 2013


Episode 14

Film reviews. Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh are joined by Catherine Bray to review the second film in The Hobbit trilogy, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug.


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Hello, and welcome to Film 2013. We're live, and if you want to get

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in touch the details are on the screen now. Coming up on tonight's

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show. Baggins is back! Martin Freeman leads the cast of The Hobbit

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Part 2. Good. You will need it. Robert Redford is all at sea in All

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Is Lost. SOS call, over. And love hurts in Israeli drama Fill

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The Void. Plus, Sir Alan Parker talks about his classic film Angel

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Heart. And we take a look at the fully restored Cinema Paradiso.

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Danny is here, and we're joined by guest critic Catherine Bray. First

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up is The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug. In the second film in Peter

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Jackson's trilogy, Bilbo Baggins continues on his quest to reclaim

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the Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor. Where does your journey end? You seek that

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which would bestowdown the right to rule.

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The quest to reclaim a home land, and slay a dragon.

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The great thing with a middle movie, in a trilogy is after the first

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movie, you say, OK, everybody knows everything they need to know, we

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have two more, let us slam on the gas, and go for it.

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When we pick it up, they are still on their way to the Lonely Mountain,

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as they get fur into the journey, Bilbo's usefulness increases. You

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must trust me. He saves the company more than once. What do we do now?

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Hold your breath. Hold my breath? S the main characters in the stories

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develop and they literally don't end up being the same people at the end

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as they were at the beginning. I found something in the golden

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temple. The journey is one of self revelation. What did you find? My

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courage. Billow, he has developed a bit more of a backbone and he has

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developed a bit more confidence, you know. You are not the same hobbit as

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the one that left the shire. Playing the wide eyed thing, is great. But

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not after a while, you know, you want to, express something else.

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He has a bit of cockiness in his step, and tries his hand with a fire

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breathing monster the size of the Empire State Building and something

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of an atomic bomb. Yes. It happens. Was that an

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earthquake? That my lad was a dragon.

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Everything we kind of, it has been a long time devising and Benedict

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walked in and he knew. It was sensational, while it is my voice

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and my movement, it is such a huge leap on from that they they did

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impose. I sat there marvelling at it. Come now, don't be shy. Step

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into the light. It is not just about hobbits and it

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is not just about elves. Don't think I won't kill you dwarf. There is

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enough universal stuff in Tolkeins work, loyalty and love and bravery

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and trust. It is about us, it is about now.

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It is not our fight. It is our fight.

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I fieg find the second and third movies to be exciting, I know the

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gauntlet has been thrown down. Now we have to deliver.

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Dragon fire and ruin. That is what you will bring on us. He cannot see

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beyond his own desire. Danny. It has ban year since the

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first hobbit. You spend six month watching that film and six months

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regretting you have. This is a better hobbit. There is a lack for a

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start of half hour scenes of washing up. There is the hedgehog who was a

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low for me and you have an action romp. It is spectacular and I think,

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at last there is a sense of energy and momentum and the story getting

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somewhere. There is supposed to be a journey. Last time it felt like you

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were stuck on a hard should we are in a minibus with a tribute band.

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The first has its fan, you look at the second film if two way, you can

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say it is better than the first hobbit or it is much less terrible.

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OK. There is that. Catherine? I mean I am totally with Danny on the whole

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Christmas fun spectacular take the kids, there is brilliant scenes with

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giant spiders and barrels and all this stuff going on. I am a big

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Tolkein nerd and I I think there will be a lot of people with me

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thinking this is Peter Jackson's film not Tolkein's whereas the Lord

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of the ring, which I love. I went to see the first one eight times and I

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wish I could say the same of this. It doesn't compare, I mean those

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films were epic and brilliant. This is just a kind of fun trip out for

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the kids. Can I tell you what I thought it

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was, and I never use this word. Tremendous. I do. It pop into my

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head. I am happy for you, I want to dry I didn't have that. I watched

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the first one and I had to go twice. The first time I had two naps. When

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I woke up from the second they were still washing up and they had broken

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into song. They were never leaving the shire. In this one they go down

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barrels. It like the love story, I mean... You like the love story. Did

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you not? It is terrible. Peter Jackson is best when he is

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tasteless, when he allows himself on this tasteless. There is some bad

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taste where you have arrows going through orbings heads, but I am with

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Catherine in terms of the romance, maybe a bit of sex, because it feels

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very adolescent. It feels like they are going to nip off to the park and

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give each other love bites. That is why I loved it. There is a bit of a

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double entendre, about what a dwarf has down his trousers, I don't think

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many of us read The Hobbit and thought it needs more knob gags. It

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is not Tolkein. I don't know it nearly as well as I do. I look at

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this as $200 million fan fiction. If you o are going to make something

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Tolkein would love, I am not sure you would make a movie with 50,000

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people slaving away. My understanding is it was about, you

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know, pining for pre-Industrial Revolution England. So what you

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would do for a proper adaptation is take 17 blokes out in the same

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minibus, take them to Stroud and stage something in a field. I am not

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against fan fiction. You loved the Lord of the Rings films. If you were

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going to write alert to Mr Jackson with here are my issues. Number one,

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what would the problem be? Was it the love story? Number one maybe the

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knob gag and the love triangle lean Legolas and an elf lady you have

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made up and one of the dwarves. OK, so we have this dragon who is one of

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the greatest villains in children's literature, he is supposed to be

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smart and in this he is kind of like one of nose bond villains who sits

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round making chatty threats and never killing anybody. Anot

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criticising Benedict couple batch. But he doesn't seem to be able to

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detect 13 dwarves clattering about where they shouldn't be. They are

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only little That is my problem. The orcs are inept and can't kill the

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dwarf who has the ginger beard, the dwarves are greedy, I would eat the

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gaver, the elves are kind of, I don't know, the awful Ocado delivery

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kind of people. But I am going to put my hand in the air for the set

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pieces. It is about the set piece, it is like raiders of the lost lath

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ark. That is what he is aiming for I think. You are supposed to come out

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and say I love the built when, you may love the bit where Gandalf meets

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the necromancer. I love Martin Freeman as well. He is gorgeous in

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this. I want more of him on his own, doing Bilbo stuff. It is called The

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Hobbit. Less titting about in the wood with random elves and more of

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Martin Freeman. But more titting about with the giant spider, they

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present a convincing case why every movie should have giant spiders in.

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I am accept my converted. They are as good as anything in the Lord of

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the Rings. We have to move on otherwise I will get fired.

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Next, Director JC Chandor follows up Margin Call with All Is Lost. Robert

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Redford stars as a man stranded alone in the Indian Ocean, after his

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boat collides with a shipping container.

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All is lost is a film where you join the main character what we in script

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writing called the initiating incident. That normally happens

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quarter of the way through the film, but here it just begins with this

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accident. The next hour-and-a-half you are

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watching this guy deal with this series of events and hoping he can

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make it through. I like the challenge it gave me as

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an actor, to occupy a character alone, with just his own thinking

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and behaviour was all you could be with.

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. Like the fact there was no dialogue. Those are all reasons why

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it was exciting for me, because that doesn't exist much, there is not

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much opportunity like this in a film. Where it is such a pure

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cinematic Mr Eed for is a pretty -- Redford is

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a non-verbal storyteller, he is able to do complex emotional transition

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fear to performances veer rans or happiness to tragedy.

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The film feels exciting and is a thriller, kind of almost a horror

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movie in a way, as it is happens and feels tense and exciting. SOS call.

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Over. This is Virginia Gene. This is an

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SOS call. When you are shooting in water like that everything takes

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longer than it should. Since I did my own fiscal stuff, I think it

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speaks for itself. It was very challenging.

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And action. The fact you knew you were going to be wet for 12 hours,

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sort of every day for two-and-a-half months while it was kind of slowly

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happening, with a 75, 76-year-old man, doing it, it was a terrible

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concern, you know, I am glad we made it through.

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He could quit but he doesn't, he keeps moving, that because that the

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only thing he has left to do, is to keep moving.

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Help! Help! Catherine? I love this film. And I wasn't necessarily

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expecting to, you hear, OK, it is a film with no dialogue and it is

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going to be very sort of compelling and you think OK, is that is a bit

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of beard stroking way of saying I am board, but it is well made. It is

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properly edge of your seat stuff, is he going to survive. It is an

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incredible performance from Robert Redford, I was expecting also he

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might be a big show off performance but it is so subtle, you can see the

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cogs turning the whole time, you can see what he is thinking and what he

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is going to try and try to get out of yet. I'm not often left

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speechless but I was by this film. The comparison I would reach for.

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Gravity. It is an old-fashioned story. All is lost has got the

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oldest trick in the movies, less is more. It is all about showing and

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not telling. Because you just have Robert Redford you think it is like

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a party piece. After a couple of minutes you forget that aspect of

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the movie even exists. You're just absorbed. And the last few minutes,

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it is one of the most indelible things I have ever seen. That is

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high praise. We should talk about the direct. -- director. It is tense

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to watch it. It is not stressful perhaps but it is tense. It is like

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watching gravity. I cannot wait to see what he does next. We have

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already had the out of space epic. It is just talking. We have two talk

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about Robert Redford. It is such a stunning performance. He has to

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carry every second of the movie. In a way it is almost a risk casting

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him. He has been so underplayed throughout his whole career. Ryan

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Gosling, younger viewers would think he invented staring into space. But

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this is genuinely a career defining performance. You could not imagine

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any other actor doing this. It is his movie. If he does not get

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nominated for an Oscar that would be criminal. A lovely role for an older

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actor as well. You would not often get the lead. It is a good season

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for it with Nebraska as well. Older guys exploring their mortality. He

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is a man of 77. There is a kind of gravity and wait that comes with

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that. You would not have that with someone younger. Gravity I think

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needed Sandra Bullock and George Clooney, for their familiarity which

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makes the movie stronger. And we have that history with Robert

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Redford, perfect casting. Please go and see it. All is Lost will be in

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cinemas on Boxing Day. Now Alan Parker relives the making of what

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remains a 1980s classic - his dark movie Angel Heart. The film caused a

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stir with the American censors before its release, due to an

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extended, graphic, blood-drenched sex scene which had to be cut in

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order to secure an R rating. I remember the dust cover, falling

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Angel was the title. And at the back it had raiment chanter meets the

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excesses. I thought, it sounds right up my street. To make it accurate

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for 1955 we repainted almost 50 different buildings along the

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street. People go and say it does not look like it does in the film.

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It is almost like a film set. I wrote most of it sitting in a corner

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cafes and bars. Then you go to look at locations and I would adapt the

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script almost to what I found. That whole descent into hell, it took on

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graphic imagery. I went to see Jack Nicholson first. He was interested

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but not interested enough! And at the same time I met with Robert De

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Niro. He was the hottest actor at that moment in time. He surprised us

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all by saying he did not want to play that role, he would like to

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play the part of the devil. Allow me to introduce my client, Louis

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Cyphre. The physicality is hugely important. He has long hair in the

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film. He wanted to have false nails. And they grow a millimetre

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every time you see him. That was his idea. And in the film they do

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imperceptibly get longer. But it was so important to him. The opposite to

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Mickey who did not really care too much! Between the two of them there

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is a wonderful electricity that you can see on screen. They wanted to

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score points of one another. Mickey was so determined to do better than

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the master. Robert De Niro at the end is almost cracking every bone in

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Mickey's body. Almost reminding him the actor that he is compared to the

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actor that Mickey might think he might be. No thank you. I have got a

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thing about chickens. I think Mickey loved being naughty. In one scene it

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is a horse race and he is watching these horses come towards him. He

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had written all these lines originally. He was looking at the

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polls because he had written them down there. Then we moved him so his

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lines were about two feet away and he could not even see them! When

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you're writing a scene, normally it is to people talking. But I try to

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give it layers, other things that the curve. I tend to put in animals.

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In one scene he is running through a stable with horses. The first time

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it was incredibly impressive. When you have done it 20 times, the

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stuntman is then wafer thin! And you wonder why you ever wrote that. No

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animal was ever harmed in the making of the film! Only people! The scene

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that I love is the lovemaking scene when it is raining. It is hard to do

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any kind of sex scene. The bearer -- I remember saying, I am there to

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help you. But it turned out that Isabel Bonnie was much more

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confident. There is a piece of music that goes with the scene which is a

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beautiful soul number. I played that very loud which I found to be

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helpful. It is one of the most powerful scenes I have ever filmed

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and I am proud of that. I think you can look back on your work and of

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course you improve on everything that you have done. But looking at

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Angel heart, it has affected a lot of people. Depending on which

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country I go to, it is the one film which people particularly in Europe

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have liked. And I am still proud of it.

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Thank you so much for chatting to us. Next up, Fill The Void - a film

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from Israel which is set amongst its ultra-orthodox Jewish community.

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When her sister dies, an 18-year-old girl is strongly encouraged to marry

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her widowed brother-in-law. You expect Fill The Void to be a

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slightly different movie. You have this 18-year-old girl in this movie.

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In coming-of-age movies that character would rebel and run away.

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But the director is from the Hasidic Jewish community herself. So making

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a film about her religion. It is not propaganda, not an Expose but

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something in between. It is one that I would recommend to Mel Gibson!

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Technically it is a very accomplished film. She has coaxed

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incredible performances from her actors. I would like to see her next

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thing being something not necessarily about Orthodox Judaism.

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I think she is so within that world it would be nice to see her talent

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brought to bear on something outside of that. It was incredibly

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claustrophobic to watch. You felt, just run. It was that horrible sense

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of being in this character's very enclosed worlds. It is like a Jane

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Austen character. Living in this rigid society. Not as funny as Jane

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Austen! It is all about tradition. This ancient tradition yet at the

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same time shot in this European contemporary setting. The

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director's background is fascinating. In the Hasidic

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community you cannot have men and women in the same frame together. So

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that is interesting. Jane Austen is a decent comparison. Birth,

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weddings, death. So a romantic comedy is the next thing that she

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should do! Your favourite? All Is Lost by a long margin. It is a

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future classic. I wish it was the Hobbit but it is always lost. I

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would say All Is Lost. But for the barrel ride, the Hobbit. That's all

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from us. We'll be back next week on Tuesday at 11:15pm when we review

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Anchorman two and Ben Stiller in The Secret Life of Walter Mitty. To

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celebrate its 25th anniversary, Cinema Paradiso has been beautifully

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restored and is back in cinemas this weekend. Thank you very much for

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watching. Here's a glimpse. Good night.

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Film 2013 hosts Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh are joined by guest critic Catherine Bray to review the much anticipated second film in The Hobbit trilogy, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, with Martin Freeman recreating his role as Bilbo Baggins.

Also under consideration is Fill The Void, a film from Israel about a devout Hasidic Jewish 18-year-old girl who is pressured into a marriage with the husband of her late sister.


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