Episode 2 Film 2013


Episode 2

Film news and reviews. Claudia and Danny review Quentin Tarantino's Django Unchained and poignant drama The Sessions. Plus Chris Hewitt reveals his favourite movie shootouts.


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Hello and welcome to Film 2013, with me Claudia Winkleman. And me,

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Danny Leigh. We are live. If you want to get in touch, tweet or

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email. The details are on the screen right now. Tonight: Jamie

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Foxx saddles up in Quentin Tarantino's Django Unchained.

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Django. The "D" is silent. There is true life crime in The Wee Man.

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John Hawkes and Helen Hunt get together in The Sessions. Is it

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possible for me to know a woman in the biblical sense? Are we talking

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about sexual enter course. Chris Hewitt is here with his Top Five

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Shootouts. First it's Django Unchained by Quentin Tarantino.

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Good cold evening, gentleman. I'm Dr King Schultz. What is your name?

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Django. You're the one I'm looking for. No sale. Oh, very well. It's a

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film about an exslave who become as bounty hunter. He has his freedom

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he has this talent with the pistol and legality behind him he rescues

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his wife who is still a slave. sold my wife. I don't know to who.

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Will you help me to do that? I'll give you your freedom and take you

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to rescue your wife. When are we going? I play a slave who become as

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bounty hunter. She is my wife who gets separated from me in a brutal

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way. When I meet my friend we go from plantation to plantation to

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find her. You kill people and they give you a reward? Certain people,

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yeah. Bad people? Ah! The Bader they are, the bigger the reward.

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The film is this epic western cowboy western film, but it's in

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the name of love. I like the way you die, boy. I have wanted to do a

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western for a long time. I thought Pulp Fiction was a rock-and-roll

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western. Now, it's time to do one for proper. Bull's-eye. I can only

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think about five other westerns that have dealt with slavery as a

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subject. It's an issue America are afraid to bring up, they are

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embarrassed about it. I wanted to deal with. It We have a fight going

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on. It's good fun. A lot of films touched on it that make you think

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slavery was this thing where people sung songs in the fields and picked

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cotton and they were OK. It wasn't. It was a horrible institution.

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said, you said you didn't know him? I don't. Yes, you do. Mr Stephen, I

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don't. Why is you lying to me? Lying? Why is you crying? You're

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scaring me. Why is I am scaring you? Because you're scaring...

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Action! Coming from America, if you are going to do a movie about

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slavery it will be a hot potato. That is good. People are having

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real conversations about slavery, in a way that hasn't gone on for at

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least 30 years. We had a great laeter in Quentin Tarantino. For

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the most part, it's been fantastic -- leader. It takes pressure off

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myself and Carrey. We are the African-American people in the

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movie. It will be laid at our feet if it were to go awr e. It makes

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you step back. It is nowhere near as horrible as the stuff that

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happened. What is your name? Django. This would be a good time for, in

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our relationship, you told me your "D" was silent and I could call you

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Anne. I'd rather you didn't. Flagging it up. I am don't come at

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this movie as Quentin Tarantino. She talented. A lot of what he has

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done for 10 years could be filed under "self-pleasure. Django is

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funny and brutal. It's recognisable. It couldn't be made by anyone else.

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It is insanely entertaining. For those of us, like me, who have felt

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iffy about Tarantino, going back to Jackie Brown this is welcoming back

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an old friend. A talking old friend. On that note? On the subject of

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fowl mouth, if you see this film you will stand up and you will want

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to shout obscenities in a good way. Possibly punch the air. Will you

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love. It you will feel invigorated. Can I read out some tweets, because

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we said the thing, they have come in. Quentin Tarantino back to his

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best. The Best Film maker of his generation from Nathan Polly. Ryan

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says - Django is fun but massively overrated. Django being the least

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interesting character. We will talk about the actors in a minute.

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Before we move off the subject, I want to talk about Tarantino more.

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I think, listen, no-one sprays blood across a screen like him. We

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all know. That when he is on form there is so much more going on here.

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Dialogue, the rhythm of the dialogue, you can nod your head to.

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It you could dance to it. It's a thing of beauty. He is over rated

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and he doesn't get enough credit if that makes sense. It makes absolute

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sense. There are moments in this film that funny. He is wearing blue.

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A moment when he says "say goodbye to Miss Laura." I will not say

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anything else. When you see it, you will know what we mean. I have seen

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it with someone who loved. It I watched it again. I think it's

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worth bringing up with somebody who found the violence too much. It was

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in the news a lot. Silly not to mention. There has been talk about

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Tarantino and violence. By this stage of his career if you don't

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like gun play you are better off having a Radox bath than watching a

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Tarantino film. The violence is more interesting than the violence

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he doesn't show than the violence he does show. There is a lot of

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slap stick. You never doubt how seriously this movie takes slavery.

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You don't have to be Spielberg to make a point. I want to say

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something quick about the actors. Jamie Foxx and Christoph Waltz get

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all the attention. I want to say something about Leonardo Di Caprio.

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She a very smart move casting him here. The thing about Leonardo Di

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Caprio, he has ruined any number of films in the last few years.

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Whatever the role is, he looks like this over fed man baby. In fact,

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here that is the character. That is exactly the character he is playing.

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He is a perfect fit. Very, very smart move casting Leonardo Di

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Caprio. Samuel L Jackson extraordinary? Yes. Next, Helen

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Hunt and John Hawkes star in The Sessions, the true life story of

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Mark O'Brien, a polio sufferer paralysed from the neck down, who

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sets out to lose his virginity aged Oh. Shit. I had not heard this

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story told before. You know, a guy who was spent most of his life in

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an iron lung. All of a sudden he wanted to lose his virginity.

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possible for me to know a woman in the biblical sense? Are we talking

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about sexual enter course? My penis speaks to me, Father. When I read

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the script. I thought, this is a new story. A world I have never

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seen before. You go, this is like this movie but they are on Mars. I

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have not seen this story before or met this woman before. So. Your

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money is on the desk over there. Yes, it is. Thank you. That was the

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wrong way to start of. It really was. Shall we start again? Please.

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You start. Although the aim is for us to have sex. I'm not a

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prostitute. You don't have to pay me up front. I have nothing against

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prostitutes. There is a difference. We can talk about that later.

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sorry. The concept of a sex surrogate. What is this role, a

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woman who has sex for money, it's not prostitution? It weighs

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irresistable. I understand you are able to have an erection. Yes, but

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not by choice. The First question I had for the director, who had also

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written the script was, why not a disabled actor, Ben is disabled

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himself, a polio survivor. He had met with actors with disability and

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actors without disability trying to find his character. He hadn't found

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the right actor, he felt. I'm glad he thought I could do. It I'm glad

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I decided to do. It God wasn't actually denying my sexuality, he

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was just pointing out to me how useless it was. It's amazing to me

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how often God is brought into the sex act. I understand, even among

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non-believers the most common expression of sexual ecstasy is "oh,

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God." To find the humour in this film was hugely important to me.

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The fact that the audiencience is laughing so loud they can't hear

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the neck line means when I come in they are more open and engaged and

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vulnerable. I said to my boyfriend at the premier in LA, before I come

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in and get naked, "it's very quiet in here all of a sudden." You will

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listen to signals from your body. That way you will be able to have

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control. One of the unique things about the movie, often when two

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people come together in a movie or in real-life, they are really

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looking out for themselves. Whereas, in this case, they come together

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for one of them. They come together for him. I think, it works best as

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a relationship movie. It's kind of like, a hidden love story, really.

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I was ready to often comfort to the furlong. I would love to hear it.

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Love is a journey. I like it already. That's it. That is all I

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have got. What do you think? terms of award season,th Sessions

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hasn't been invited to the party. I think that is a shame. The reasons

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it has been ignored are exactly the reasons it should be embraced.

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Unstayed and under played. It tell as movie story without leaving your

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heart strings feeling like they have been molested. It has a really

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great refreshing attitude towards sex. In big Hollywood blockbusters

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they try to pretend sex doesn't exist. People in Christopher Nolan

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films I don't think have gentals. Here, John Hawks' character is

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learning a new language from Helen Hunt's character. Sex is fun and

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healthy. The movie industry spends a lot of its time catering for

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virgins and over grown virgins. It's nice to have a movie which is

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a truly adult film in the best sense. Absolutely adult.

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Performances brilliant. It is funny. What do you think of the

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performances? Helen Hunt has an Oscar nod. It's well and good the

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film having this sense of being matter-of-fact about sex. She has

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to embody. That she has to play this part. She spends half the film

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in the altogether. Very brave. Fine, fine performance. There are two

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fine performances going on. It's a film about two people. John Hawkes,

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who I think is superb here. Because of the nature of the character he

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is playing, he can only ability act with his eyes and voice. Have you a

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physical performance. To me, this is impressive as Tom Cruise on top

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of a hotel in Mission Impossible 4. There is a real beauty to this. I

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think, I don't know, what do you great being under stated and under

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played? That is what John Hawkes is here. You sit at the back in the

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Oscars unnominated while Bradley Cooper is nominated as Best Actor

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for doing Silverlinings play. That is a travesty. Bradley, well done.

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Now the Oscars, do you have gripes. Are you OK? How do you feel about,

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I'm scared to ask, Best Director? That is a real problem. The

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omissions are more interesting than what has been included. Best

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Director is fascinating. You can reel off a list that haven't been

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named, Tarantino not being named. Paul Thomas Anderson hasn't been

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nominated for The Master. It is not up for Best Film. Not among the

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best ten films this year, that is crazy. Ben Affleck with Argo.

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won at the Globes. Another one, Zero Dark 30. We will talk about it

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next week. Anyone who watched the live stream of the nominations that

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Catherine Bigglow, people were clapping. Every time Zero Dark 30

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was mentioned there was a silence. Interesting stuff going on in play

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I don't even dare say I liked it again for fear you will get...

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Please don't. Please don't. Listen... Also, Tom Hooper got

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nominated but Les Mis... We have just named five directors - it's

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the alternative Best Directer list, an interesting thing. I am pleased

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the Southern World got nominated. It has picked up several

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nominations. I can't help but thinking this is just the academy

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proving they have seen a foreign and an indie film this year. And

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Moonrise Kingdom. That's enough for Hello, and welcome, Chris, into Top

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Five world. How are you? I am gl. How you? You have top five

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Shootouts? I have. Because of Django? Because of Django and

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because we're going to shoot each other. Hopefully not - definitely

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not. Can I converse with you about Shootouts? You can. Many your head,

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is that a mass of people because I just want it to be defined by you.

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Yes. We're differing on this. slightly differ on this because I

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would have thought Shootouts was two people. That's a due. Then

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there is a gunfight which is a couple of people. I would say it is

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usually a lot of people. Listening to you, I think you're right. You

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think a shoot-out is two people with guns. Listen, we could do this

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all night. If I am shooting at you and you shooting at me it's a

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shoot-out. People shooting anywhere... Out of a bush? Anywhere,

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out of a nightclub. Immediately, when you got the phone call, did

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you go, that's easy? I am doing that with my eyes closed? I knew my

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number one. I knew any number two, then the rest with my eyes closed.

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I love John Wu movies. I am wearing the T-shirt but Die Hard didn't

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make it. It was very, very tough. There is a disgruntlement about the

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absence of John Wu on twit. They're livid. Let's start with number five.

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When I think of shoot-outs I think of bank robberies and westerns, so

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I went for a western for number five. There is another one in there

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later on, but I wanted something that felt realistic, a realistic

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shoot-out. If we were shooting at each other we'd be missing because

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we'd be nervous. You would be missing! You'd be hitting me in the

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face obvious by but I went for Kevin Costner's Open Range which

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has a fantastic climactic shoot-out where bullets blow people apart and

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they did realistic physics but also people missing. OK. Let's have a

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clip. Looks like you're losing your Army,

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Snoop couldn't hit a barn door. No. Number four totally - anybody does

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a cartwheel in slow motion wins. think you're going to give it away

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with this one. This is my style over substance choice. I was going

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to go for a John Wu film but decided I had to go for The Matrix

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for the noughties in many ways but Keanu Reeves looks very, very cool.

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You say cool. I always think, what a coat. Let's have a look.

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Don't you think that looks dated, though? I look at that and go, God,

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1999 - that looks so... But every film that came after copied it. It

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still looks pretty fresh. Yes, that lobby scene - I remember seeing it

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for the first time and I remember seeing it a million times. "We're

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going to need guns, lots of guns." What's next? A western. This one I

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think influenced pretty much every major action film-maker for the

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last 30, 40 years including my beloved John Wu. It is the ultimate

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blaze of glory, the ultimate electric shoot-out. It's the end of

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Wild Bunch. You know with The Wild Bunch, they

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had six cameras going at six different speeds, six different

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frameworks, six different cameras at the same time - that was the

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only way he could get that sense of time. There would have been no The

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Matrix without The Wild Bunch. Half of cinema would have been taken out.

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He didn't shoot in FPS, did he? What's your next choice? I had to

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go for a comedy. I love the movies of Jim Zucker and David Zucker, a

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World War II film called Top Secret!. It plays on all the

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cliches and conventions of a shoot- out, and it's just hilarious.

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My favourite thing about that - we have watched it all day - I can't

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imagine how many times you have seen that - still like a four-year-

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old giggling. Not even the best joke. There are better jokes in

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that sequence. Are there? There is an amazing joke with a machine gun

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you have to see to believe. You have to. Very good. So number one -

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I am hoping it's going to be what Twitter want you to choose as

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number one... Yes. Otherwise there is going to be a ruckus.

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disqualified John Wu, so... They did want this one at number one.

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You may have noticed a young Val Kilmer in Top Secret! That was his

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first movie. I have gone for another Val Kilmer movie for number

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one. It is an amazing shoot-out in Heat where the characters are

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trying to get away from Al Pacino and his Army of cops, and they use

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incredible military tactics to get away. It's fantastic. OK. Here's

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It's a fine choice. Nice wig on Val as well. Is that a wig? I am saying

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it is. I am not taking anything away from Heat. One comes from

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Twitter. I feel strongly about it myself, the Third Man - I don't see

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how you can do this without mentioning that movie. It's not a

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shoot-out. My God that cinema. need at least a dozen people for a

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party. Scarface - you could do this on the top five movie - Scarface.

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How can you leave that out? considered my Blaze of Glory moment

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but The Wild Bunch pipped it in the end. Everybody has a favourite.

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nightclub scene in Scarface where Octavio - you know, he's the

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cocaine weevil - he gets caught up in the shoot-out. You're an amazing

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man, but... Number six - I am looking for two words, Star Wars.

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don't know. We're out of time. Next week with Catherine Bray. Now a

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clip from Wee Man. It's time you took the ladder. I chose to be a

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gangster. The Commonwealth always despised

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him. You leave Ferris to me. I have grand plans on him. Someone has put

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a price on his head. This has to stop if we're going to have a

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future. You know who he was. You knew what you signed up for. I want

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you to pass on a message. I am scared, so scared. It's gone too

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far. It's taken over your life. It's possessed your soul. If you

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want a moment, you can have it. it begins. We don't have a lot of

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time, so I am going to ask you, is it worth seeing? If you like

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Scottish gangster films - I don't know if you're in the mood - it's

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aiming for I am Bruce Scorsese. It has some swagger to it and fine

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performances. The director also directed Love, Honour and Obey,

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which is one of the worst films I have ever seen. He has been in

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prison for the last 30 years because of that. Martin Compston is

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very, very good. Next, Chained, a dark and disturbing horror film

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from director Jennifer Chambers Lynch. If you scare easily, close

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your eyes now. Hey, hon. It's us. We're in a cab.

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We're on our way home. Love you. Excuse me. That was our exit.

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Mum? I've got a child back here, and you're beginning to scare the

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bejesus out of me. Chained is in my opinion a story about how monsters

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are really made, and it's the tale of a serial killer who drives a

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taxicab who picks up a fare, a mother and her son, and takes them

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home instead of to their required Mom! Stay in the car. And he ends

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up killing the mom and keeping the boy for ten years, and it's the

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story of that experience. Mom! wanted to explore the dynamic

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between the man and the boy and try and figure out exactly why this man

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was doing what he was doing and maybe create a dialogue about child

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abuse and why humans do bad things. I didn't ask for you, but since

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you're here, I'm going to make the most of it. You will have one job.

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You do what I say. SCREAMING

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Jonny Evans -- Evan Burd is an incredible actor. Yes, he's a child.

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If he wanted to change something, he had the room to do that. I don't

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think somebody needs to be tortured in order to look like they're being

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tortured. It is for some people a very tough watch, but I think it's

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You will serve me for the rest of What's your name? I'm Rabbit.

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long have you been here? Since I We have run out of time. Should

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people buy a ticket to this? It's claustrophobic and evocative. For

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horror fan, absolutely. For non- horror fans it's undermined by

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having a plot twist which even a dog would find implausible and not

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even a clever dog. Agreed. It's released on February 1. Your film

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of the week? Django Unchained. But it can't get into cinemas because

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of that terrible singing, Django Unchained is great. Go and see

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Sessions too. That's all for tonight. Next week

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we're back at the later time of 11.50pm, and we'll be reviewing

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Lincoln and Zero Dark Thirty. Plus, I sit down to chat with Steve

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Spielberg. Playing us out tonight the new trailer for A Good Day To

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Die Hard. It stars Bruce Willis and is in cinema's February. Thank you

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and goodnight. Jack? Dad? This is what you have been doing, 007, a

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playing field in New Jersey. Relax. You're safe now. Save my ass.

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guy's bad news - terrorism, weapons grade European Union -- uranium,

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nukes. Someone's got to stop him. That a boy. Knock, knock. Whoa!

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Quentin Tarantino returns to the big screen with Django Unchained, starring Jamie Foxx, Christoph Waltz and Leonardo DiCaprio; John Hawkes and Helen Hunt get up close and personal in poignant drama The Sessions; and Chris Hewitt reveals his top five movie shootouts.


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