Episode 3 Film 2014


Episode 3

The latest film reviews, news and interviews. Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh take a look at Dallas Buyers Club, The Invisible Woman and the 2014 RoboCop reboot.


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Hello and welcome to Film 2014. We're live and if you want to get in

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touch the details are on the screen now. Coming up on tonight's show:

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Oscar favourite Matthew McConaughey stars in Dallas Buyers Club. Mr

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Woodroof, you are nothing more than that common drug dealer.

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Ralph Fiennes explores Dickens' secret life in The Invisible Woman.

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Do you love him? He is married. That has not stopped him falling in love

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with you. And the crime-fighting man machine

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is back in a remake of Robocop. Dead or alive? You are coming with me.

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Plus we talk to John Ridley, the BAFTA and Oscar nominated writer of

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12 Years A Slave. Danny is here. And we're joined by

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guest critic Peter Bradshaw. Before we begin, we must talk about

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Philip Seymour Hoffman, who died this weekend. Danny and Peter, this

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is just such a massive horrible loss, isn't it? It feels so raw. It

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is so unexpected. We are not talking about an actor that reached a grand

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old age and if we are honest, we had started thinking about in the past

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tense. This is a man of 46. He had two new films and who knows what he

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had lying ahead of him. So, as it stands, it's a devastating loss for

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any film lover. You have been watching this glorious movie, which

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was his career and mid-scene, the film was stopped and the lights have

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come back on and now we feel disorientated. Peter, some of his

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favourite work - if we were going to watch one of his films, what would

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you suggest? So difficult to say. It's not so much a star vehicle for

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himself, it is one of his greatest films, or possibly the film which I

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clocked him in, which was Happiness. I was afraid of him. It wasn't a

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scary movie. It wasn't supposed to be menacing. He always gave the

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impression that there was some deep and incredible well of anger inside

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him which he was converting into charm and passion. He was absolutely

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unique. The incredible thing about Happiness, he was playing a

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character wrecked by self-loathing. Within a year, he was starring in

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Talented Mr Ripley. He was also - Twitter was heartbroken, if that is

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not a strange thing to say - people felt the loss so deeply. Somebody

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has said, "Whatever happens, I would never miss a film he was in." It is

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true. He was a huge box office draw. He always gave the impression that

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what he did, he wanted to do. There are so many films we see where the

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actor is taking the pay cheque, maybe the director wanted to cast

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him or didn't. Philip Seymour Hoffman always wanted to do the film

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and it was reconfigured around him. I can't think of anybody who is like

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him. Perhaps Paul Schofield was comparable. He was a one-off. It

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seems like he played a lot of characters who were frail and

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fragile and he tapped into this side of ourselves that we don't like to

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acknowledge is there. If you look back at his career, he didn't play

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weak, or strong, he wasn't good guys, or bad guys, he played

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complex. OK. Thank you. First up, Dallas Buyers Club.

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Matthew McConaughey stars as Ron Woodroof, who smuggled anti-viral

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drugs into the US to save his own life and the lives of other AIDS

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patients in the 1980s. # Come on... #

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This is the story of Ron Woodroof. He is a heterosexual man and gets

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HIV. I had inspirations - I knew that guy. I have passed him in my

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life. Have you ever engaged in homosexual conduct? Homo? You said

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homo? You have 30 days to live. He lived seven more years. How did he

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do that? He smuggled ununauthorised drugs and vitamins from overseas and

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he was a black-market drug dealer dealing his unapproved medicines to

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other HIV patients and people in Dallas, Texas. You treating these

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people? I ain't selling drugs. I'm selling memberships. Welcome to the

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Dallas Buyers Club. This is a very special film about a group of people

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that were fighting for their lives intent on making the impossible

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possible, a group of dreamers that were betting on themselves. Do you

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like this dress? I think the neckline is a bit plunging. The

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whole purpose of this study is to determine if it is helping people.

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There ain't no helping me. I do have a lot of respect. It is a brave

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thing to do to choose to live your life to dream it not as others would

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have you live it. Nice restaurant, beautiful woman. That's where I feel

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like a human again. You look great. Mr Woodroof, you are nothing more

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than a common drug dealer. People are dying. We had half the money we

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thought we needed ten days before shooting. We had 4.9. We thought we

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needed 40 days, we got 25. And the director and I said, "I'll be there

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if you will." And we did. I hadn't made a film in over six years. I

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never expected to get this kind of response and I feel really lucky.

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The story has been around 20 years. Couldn't get it made. We got it made

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for 4.9 million and we were around for six Oscars. It is an

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extraordinary film. I have pages of people saying whatever you do, go

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and see this film for the performances. Danny? At first, all

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anyone is going to see is this pipe cleaner figure that Matthew

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McConaughey has transformed himself into. When an actor piles on the

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weight or starves it off himself, you don't see the character, you see

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the scales. That is not true here. This is a phenomenal performance

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playing a fascinating character. Ron Woodroof is this walking

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contradiction, a dying man who still had the life force and the vitality.

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I think the film is pretty conventional. I think there were

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moments when it felt like the producer had been lining up which

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cleaning product they had to clean their Oscars with. This film demands

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to be seen. Its heart is in the right place. It's got this electric,

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unpredictable performance. From the first scene. I don't want to give -

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the first scene you go, "What am I watching?" It's a barnstormer. He's

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not acting, he's got this almost relaxed turn as an actor. He reminds

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of a young Jeff Bridges. Yes. He is selling it to you without hammering

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it. He is terrific. It's 120 degree-proof. It meshes well with

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his character. Brad Pitt was going to be playing this role at one

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stage. It works so well with Matthew McConaughey. On-screen, we know that

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he's this free-wheeling Texas dude. Yes. Off-screen, this man was once

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in trouble with the police for playing bongos naked in his house.

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We've all done that! Haven't we? I think a lot of people who have seen

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The Wolf of Wall Street will clock why he is so emaciated in those

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early scenes. In a funny way, although they are very different

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films, there is a weird overlap. They are American stories about

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businessmen... It's very conservative. He is an

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entrepreneurial self-help man who is into capitalism. The clue is in the

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second word of the title. I suspect some veterans of the act-up campaign

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won't be that chuffed of this straight man riding to the rescues

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of gays. It is in favour of abstinence. The debate that was

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current in the '80s of HIV people having sex with condoms, that is

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absent from this movie. He believes in abstinence, except with one woman

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who has full-blown AIDS. Absolutely. It's a very conservative movie. It's

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socked over with such power! Can we mention Jared Leto? He hadn't been

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in a film for six years. I thought his eregrine falcon for mans was

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great? -- his performance was great? The only thing about let let's

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performance is - lots of us will have seen this character before. I

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think particularly if people remember Kiss of the Spider Woman,

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it rings quite a lot of bells. Yes. This character is familiar in a way

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that Ron Woodroof isn't. Yes. And the energy that Matthew McConaughey

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brings to this film. Next, the 2014 reboot of RoboCop.

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When a police officer is critically injured, a sinister corporation

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seizes the opportunity to create a half-man half-machine crime fighter.

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Give your mom a kiss. Night, baby. Too slow, boy! We are going to put a

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man inside a machine. He suffered fourth degree burns over 80% of his

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body. If he survives, he will be paralysed from the waist down and

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confined to a wheelchair. You say you could save him, what does that

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mean? What kind of life will he have? What kind of suit is this?

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It's not a suit. It's you. It is a man being joined with a machine.

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That is the basis of the concept. Let's go with black. It brings out

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the question - what is the melting of machines and humans going to be

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like in the future? This is the future of American justice. How many

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like Thomas Kane will pay for their crimes now, now that RoboCop is

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here? It is close to original. We have not tried to mess with what

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works. It will make him think he is in control, but he is not. It is the

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illusion of free will. With regards to technology and CGI and what can

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be achieved and regards to action scenes and the worlds you can

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create, we are living in such a different age. We didn't shy away

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from great visuals. We didn't shy away from state of art visual

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effects, shots of graphic design. We focussed a lot more on Murphy as

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a family man and how him post the RoboCop re-work, the pressure that

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it puts on the family dynamic. You need to speak to your son. This is

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really a thinking man's action movie. Somehow, he's overwriting the

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system's priorities. The human element will always be present.

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Compassion, fear, instit. They will always interfere with the system. --

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instinct. They will always interfere with the system. Dead or alive,

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you're coming with me. I can't come with you because I'm asleep! I have

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fallen asleep. "I can live with toned-down violence, but if the

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satire is absent, it will get nothing but disdain from me." I

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haven't seen a re-boot that has so failed to get the point of the

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original film. The original film was a black cometic gem. The idea of a

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RoboCop clanking around with thrilling efficiency, that is not

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just scary and exciting, it is funny. That was the point. If it is

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not funny, it is not anything at all. This fails to get it.

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Absolutely fails to get it. It turns it into Call of Duty. It's a shoot

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them up first person video game with zero kind of human interest and zero

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fun. I remember the original as being very funny. I don't know

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whether that is my warped memory. It was incredibly funny. It was a great

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movie. This is a 12A so they have taken all the lunatic cartoon

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violence out. That is a great shame. The original had more than lunatic

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cartoon violence. It was a trashy reputable B-movie. There is none of

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that brilliance here. You get the odd glimmer. It is mostly down to

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Gary Oldman playing this mad scientist. Yes. Setting up these

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feeding tubes that look like they are filled with liquidised cake.

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Weirdly, the film, more than anything, feels polite and earnest

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and almost apologetic for itself. There is a dig at one point at the

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Transformers movies as if to say, we are not that kind of film. You are

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the remake of RoboCop. The rubbish at the beginning, it front-loads it

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with this elaborate satire, the idea that the RoboCops are being deployed

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on the streets of a subdued Tehran and they are called drones and the

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film is so pleased with itself. This is it, this is satire. And it loses

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interest in all of that. Absolutely loses interest and the point is to

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get on with the boring action. And the action... The action is dull.

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The only pretext for remaking the movie was so you had these snazzy

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effects and they are OK, they are pretty fine for what they are. I

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felt like they were too eager to get rid of that stuff and the satire

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klaxon goes off. Absolutely. Marketing departments are full of

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terrible people... The TV presenter played by Samuel L Jackson. What a

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tired cliche. It is a strange RoboCop. It's a RoboCop that wants

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to be the wire, it wants to convince you it has seen The Wire. You think

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that is such a fantastic opportunity. All the subversion has

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gone. They don't like it. I don't know whether that came across(!)

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12 Years A Slave has been nominated for ten BAFTAS and nine Oscars. We

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went to meet writer, John Ridley. Exterior... I don't want to survive,

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I want to live. If you let yourself overcome with sorrow, you wi drown

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in it. He sits and the mistress has tea poured for him. You want to

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express yourself, that's what you want to do and I had this

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opportunity, probably the biggest opportunity in my life that was

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presented to me and, as I started going, I realised it is not about

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me. You are done. Do Solomon, what did he do? What did he say? What

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happened? Do that. That is all you have to worry about. I was born a

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free man. I lived with my family in New York. Be good for your mother.

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Till the day I was conceived. Sold into slavery. To understand the

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power of what is going on, you have to care about these people. When you

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care about people, you care about tharks and you feel their pain and

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you don't need to dial that up. Days ago I was with my family. And my

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home. Now you tell me all is lost. Tell no-one who I am, that's the way

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to survive. I don't want to survive. I want to live. 12 Years A Slave,

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two hours and 15 minutes, it's - things fall by the wayside. I wanted

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to avoid the idea of wouldn't it be nice if the things that happened in

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the film happened in the memoir... You are no free-man. You are a

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Georgian runaway. There are moments of personal colour. That was

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probably the first lesson I learnt. It is not about what I want. It's

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not about making him into a traditional action hero. One of the

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things I appreciate about the production team, they were not

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interested in a conventional film. # Went down to the River... #

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Servant, don't obey his Lord. Shall be beaten with many strikes. That's

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scripture. The condition of your labourers, it's all wrong. It's my

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property. You say that with pride? I say that with fact. I said come

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here! Writers are not always treated the best and it maybe dies where you

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don't feel as though you are treated very well. Even at its worst,

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millions of people are going to be familiar with your work. On top of

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that, I tried to be realistic. To be treated like garbage in Hollywood,

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what does that mean? You get a town car instead of the limo. What does

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that mean? You get flat water instead of sparkling water. Look,

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all writers work hard. Everybody works hard. And within film, it is

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such a team effort. The script can be phenomenal. Without other people,

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it's 122-page paper weight. I have to say on this production, they

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treated me like a partner. That's all you can ask for. I've seen the

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film many times over and there are moments where you go, "That scene is

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touching and tender and beautiful." And, "That one is really powerful."

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One scene I would pick out that was not in the script when he is making

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the corn husk dolls and that is something she came up with and that

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was beautiful. You hope you deliver something that people can build off

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of. This is nice. It's always been days since they announced the

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Oscars. The one moment in your life that is supposed to be about you,

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you realise it isn't about you. Even now, it's not. It is about Solomon.

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I will survive. I will not fall into despair. I will keep myself hardy...

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. Finally, Ralph Fiennes directs and

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stars in The Invisible Woman. Every human creature is a profound secret

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and mystery to every other. This is a completely true story. She was a

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young actress Dickens met when he was putting on a play and he fell in

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love. It affected the rest of his life and led to the disintegration

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of his marriage. You are an admirer of my husband's work? Of course. It

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is a fiction designed to entertain. Surely it is more than that. It

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changes us. My writing is ferocious. I fight not to be distracted. Nelly

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met Dickens when she was 18 and they were together for 13 years. So a lot

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of the film is about this woman looking back and understanding this

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incredible love affair that she had with Dickens. Do you love him? He is

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married. That has not stopped him falling in love with you. He's an

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honourable man, but he cannot marry me. No, he cannot. The position of

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actresses at that time, the status was not so great. Unless they were

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very successful, they were badly regarded. Nelly didn't really have

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much of a future as an actress and that what do you do? How do you

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survive? You have to find a husband. Action! As an actor, the main thing

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for all of us in the cast was to play each part with integrity and

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commit fully to those characters and playing real people does feel like

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such a responsibility and so it was always trying to find the truth of

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who they were and their interactions with each other. Do you like this

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life? Life is nothing without good company. Dickens was very protective

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of his reputation and of his private life. He wanted the world to believe

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one thing. The thing which he did which nowadays you would not be

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advised to do if you are under pressure with a private figure, but

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certainly today the tabloids would have a field day with this. What is

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it that we are? When your wife asked me if I was fond of you? I could not

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honestly reply. I wanted to say no! An extraordinary scene. I thought a

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beautiful film. I think you have to accept going in the film thinks the

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most noteworthy part of Charles Dickens' long life is becoming the

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married lover of Nel Turner. It has a fine touch. It's bold as well. It

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sets itself this interesting problem which is how do you make a film

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about a hugely successful man and a shy insular teenage girl without her

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becoming overshadowed and becoming the invisible woman in her own

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movie? It cracks that by letting her get harder and wiser over the course

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of the film. Felicity Jones is great here. Absolutely. Peter? I liked it

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very much. I thought it was a very passionate film. I thought it was

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interesting because Charles Dickens is such a cliched figure and this

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reinvents him as this extraordinary extrovert and assertive hero. It

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brings in his career as a theatrical actor-manager and it is very clever

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in the way it suggests the title does not simply refer to his secret

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mistress, but to the other invisible women in his life, and Kristin Scott

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Thomas as Nelly's mother. It is interesting to consider in The

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English Patient, she was Ralph Fiennes's lover and now she's his

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lover's mum. That is something to think about. I thought it was so

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beautifully shot. There are some scenes that you want to photograph.

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Some of them look like paintings. We also, I remember, I loved... It is a

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different movie. Of course. It says interesting things about Victorian

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"celebrity culture." Yes. Then you find from there, from the point of

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Nel, how corrosive that can be when you end up as the plaything of a man

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that powerful. I kept thinking the script didn't seem to like Dickens

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very much. That was a bit of a problem for me. I think it is

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incredibly well made. Behind the camera, Ralph Fiennes has a real

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confidence. I like the fact that it didn't look like a BBC Sunday tea

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time Dickens. It didn't - it looked like the real thing. It has a

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documentary realism about what his personal and professional life was.

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Part of that was down to the Production Design. That's right.

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With this period, you worry about feeling like you are on a

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sightseeing bus with a tour guide. You don't feel like that with this

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film. Peter is right. There is an authenticity to it. You do feel

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there is something genuinely Dickensian. Ralph Fiennes has gone

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from strength to strength as a director. Yes. He really is proving

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himself. Then, a very difficult question. What is your Film of the

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Week? I will let Peter tell you. It is Dallas Buyers Club for sheer

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engine power. You have to see Dallas Buyers Club with Matthew

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McConaughey. I did like The Invisible Woman more than I was

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expecting to. Possibly not RoboCop. I know. We were harsh! Thank you

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very much. And The Invisible Woman will be in

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selected cinemas on Friday and on general release from 21st February.

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That's all from us. We'll be back next Tuesday at 11.05pm when we

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review The Monuments Men and Cuban Fury.

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We're going to play out tonight with Philip Seymour Hoffman in his

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Oscar-winning role as Truman Capote. Good night.

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I thought you had missed it. I thought I was heading to Kansas by

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myself. I'm glad you agreed to come. You are the only one I know with a

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qualification... Thank you. I'm nervous. Yes? Mr Truman Capote,

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where would you like these, Sir? You can put that right there between the

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doors. What did you bring? Just a few things. Thank you greatly, Sir.

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You are welcome. It is an honour to have you with us, Sir. I hope you

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won't mind me saying - I thought your last book was better than the

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first. Thank you. Just when you think they have gotten as good as

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they can get. Thank you very much. You're pathetic! What? You paid him

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to say that. You paid him to say that. How did you know? Just when

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you think they've got as good as they can get... I thought that was a

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good line. Did you think that was too much? A little bit. LAUGHTER

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Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh take a look at Dallas Buyers Club, starring Matthew McConaughey as 80s Aids activist Ron Woodroof. Plus The Invisible Woman, written and directed by Ralph Fiennes and examining Charles Dickens' extra-marital affair with a younger woman; and the 2014 reboot of RoboCop.


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