Episode 2 Film 2014


Episode 2

The latest film reviews, news and interviews. Claudia Winkleman, Danny Leigh and Tim Robey discuss crime thriller Out of the Furnace, plus That Awkward Moment and Lone Survivor.


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Hello and welcome to Film 2014 we are live. If you would like to get

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in touch the details are on the screen now. Coming up: Mark Wahlberg

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and his Navy SEALs fight for their lives in Lone Survivor. This op is

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compromised. We are going home. Roger that, sir. Christian Bale

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battles to save his brother in Out of the Furnace. I'm Ronnie's

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brother. I ain't leaving without him. Zac Efron wrestles with matters

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of heart in That Awkward Moment. We are not suppose to see them more

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than twice in one week. You are seeing this chick twice in one day.

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We meet Ralpf Fiennes. We are joined by Dan yes and Tim Robey. Hi. Lone

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Survivor the true story of how a mission to kill a Al-Qaeda terrorist

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goes wrong for a unit of Navy SEALS. Red wings are go. Bad guy, senior

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Taliban commander. Killed 20 Marines last week. 20. We are going in with

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a four-man team. It's a lot more than 10 guys. It's an army. The

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mission was to locate, identify and capture or kill a terrorist. Guys

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that want to destroy America. A lot of things started going wrong.

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Before the Seal cos figure a way out of it, they were in trouble. There

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was a violent gunfight ensued. When it was over, one survived. It was

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that story. It's feeling like a cursed op. No curses. It's just

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Afghanistan. That is all. It's a kill mission. Once the mission is

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compromised we have is a serious decision to make between the four of

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us. This op is compromised. Radio check. Danny, is your radio working?

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We have two options. One, let them go. Roll the dice. When they run

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down there, we have 200 on our back. We terminate. I care about you, I

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care about you, I care about you. This is not a vote. We will cut them

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lose and going home. Roger that, sir. They are not superheroes. They

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are not larger than life. At the end of the day, they're just, you know,

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talented competent men who care about each other very much. Who are

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in a horrible, horrible bind. They fight for each other. There's a

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storm inside of us. A drive. You push yourself through anything

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anyone can think possible. I have played soldiers in the past. This is

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a different thing. SEAL guys training us were like, they made

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damn sure we were going to look real. We were training with the

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M4rifle mostly. Learning how to fire that, with real bullets. An intense

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learning curve. By the time they came to shooting they had been

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through the training campment they were like a band of brothers.

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Melissa? The cool one from the Cold Play concert. She coming? She is a

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bridesmaid. Is she coming? It's not a flag-waving movie. It's a bigger

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thing. It's not political. It's much more personal. Who these guys are

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and what real courage is. We are good, right? We're solid.

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Danny. I know it sounds strange, I don't think of Lone Survivor as a

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war movie. It doesn't feel like a war movie for all the hardware and

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blood. It feels like a western. You have insanely out numbered cowboys

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and Indians coming to get them. It feels like a slasher movie. Where

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you have hapless characters lost in the woods being stalked and picked

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up a by a psycho killer. By the end of the film, what it feels like to

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me is a very expensive ad for the Navy SEALs. It is well made film and

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well crafted and adrenaline in your veins. If you are a 16 American

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kill, you will come out of the cinema and renounce your porn habit

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and head to the recruitment office. I have to leave it up to people to

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decide if that is a recommendation film. I'm puzzled they called it

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Lone Survivor. It's a spoiler. You expect Mark Wahlberg up a mountain

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on his own. That is not the film. He is up there with his buddies. It's

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like Black Hawk Dawn. They are ambushed. The next hour of the film

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is pretty strong. It's quite powerful. It puts you up there. You

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don't want to be there. Which is sort of interesting given thatth

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kind of general drift of the film seems to be pro-military. If you

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think of other Hollywood wood war films being platoon. While you are

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up on that mountain you don't want to be there. They call in air

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support. Which is the more horrendous, jaw-dropping thing. That

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part of the film works for me. Then I think it let's itself down, I

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think, like, the remaining 20 minutes or so become quite, quite

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cheesy and contrived. I thought really at the end, it's almost like

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we are being emotionally blackmailed. We get the survivorsen

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o the end credits. I found the end credits moving. That is just me.

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It's interesting what you are talking about. Whether it's pro-war

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or not. There is a scene where you hear the helicopter blades going

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around you think of apocalypse Now. You think of it a druggie war epic.

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As a kid I it bass a thought of a pro-war film. Full Met app Jacket,

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you would think war epic. A director walked out of the screening saying

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it was a recruitment ad. When you make the fit am exciting you make

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the risk of war seeming apelling. Peter Berg has a cameo where he is

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sitting there watching, he is a Navy SEAL, watching another Navy SEAL wv

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ig out to music. He thinks he is one of them. I think he has got a real

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knack for camaraderie for soldiers and for action scenes. Physical

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action scenes, explosion, gunfights, body tumbling... It's bloody. He is

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good at that stuff. To do it well you you have to have a grasp of

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acrobatics and precision. He loves the kit and jargon. I think he

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thinks the violence is sexy. Too entrenched in that world. He has

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used Navy SEALS as consultants on all his films including Hancock. Why

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would you need Navy SEALS on board. There they were. It feels he is too

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in there. After the 15 slow mo scene of gun play it feels like Alan

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Partridge. They are striving for realism. The more realistic the

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wounds on soldier's faces and the bone sticking out of broken limb,

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the more you see, the more I'm reminded these aren't Navy SEALS in

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Afghanistan in 2005, it's actors in a nation mall Park in New Mexico.

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Boot camp for Hollywood stars. Ben Foster I believe as a soldier. Mark

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Wahlberg I want think from his performance, the madness in his

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eyes. You want him to look as if he would bite someone's head off. You

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get it once at the end. Not enough of it. I couldn't get over the fact,

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maybe it's me. I couldn't get over the idea that Mark Wahlberg was not

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doing the stuff in 2005. In the summer of 2005, his character was in

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Afghanistan, Mark Wahlberg was having lunch with his agent and he

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went shoe shopping. We will see how that uponed out. You were actually.

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There Next. The new film The Invisible woman. We went to mean

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RalphFiennes. Thank you. It was remarkable. It was? Readings double

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sales. You are an admirer of my husband's work? Of course.

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Constantly on show. Constantly watched. Life is nothing without

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good company. You are endear as Dickens. You are

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chatting, smiling, it does strike me that is an unusual thing for you to

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be doing? Yes, I suppose it is. That is one of the intractions. When I

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read Abbey's screenplay what came off this page is a man of great

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energy, the centre of attention in the room of he wanted attention. He

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loved giving attention. Gathering people around. I think that is why I

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wanted to show in the early scenes of the film him in rehearsal. He is

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a father figure to actors and his own family. What a beautiful theatre

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you have built. I'm glad. We have tried. Welcome. You have had a good

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journey. Yes, thank you. Good. You must be... We tried to recreate

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after theatre performance atmosphere, dancing and singing and

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a feeling he relishing being at the centre. He is is the perfect guy at

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parties? Ic he loved arranging parties or games social events. It

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has so much to say about fame an celebrity did that resonate with

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you? The public figure that needed oughtience. In en ens' case it was

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cripplely important. He needs to justify himself publicly in the

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letter to the Times in the way he was going to dissolve their

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marriage. In the Victorian era people didn't want scandal. When he

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head towards the trauma of being in love with Nellie where did it leave

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his marriage. The public sense of himself. I think it was a

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catastrophe. I know what I have done. Nelly. Nelly. What is it that

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we are? It's hard question to answer, what kind of director are

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you? What is your style with actors compared to some of the directors

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you have worked with, if you think of somebody by Mangella? I loved the

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way Antony worked. I loved the way he would articulate. Often I think

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you need to, I don't know... I like to communicate. I like to be direct.

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I think I like to be honest. Another person I remembered in my head, it

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was Steven Spielberg had an adrenaline about how you explored a

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moment. I remember one occasion when he was trying to breakthrough my own

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preparedness, if you like. I think film likes the surprise moment that

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even the actor hasn't prepared. I think Steven was trying to get me

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not to be so meticulous almost in it. Tend to sort of roughle my

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feathers slightly. -- ruffle. I would like so much to reach out and

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touch you in your loneliness. What would that be like, I wonder? I

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mean... What would be wrong with that? Obviously it a dark character

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like that. Then, to a lesser degree, the English Patient something about

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those withdrawn and witheld people. Don't know from the outside you

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imagine that might be quite liberating to play a part like that?

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I don't know. I mean it can be liberating. You go into a tunnel

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with people like that. I mean the psychology of the character in the

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English Patient fantastic creation, these characters are the sort of

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churning around with their inner turmoil. How can you stand there?

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How can you ever smile as if your life hadn't capsized? There is a

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interior clas row phobia that you feel. Sometimes it was great to have

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moments of release. Experience. Six months. I was a

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skillet... Experience, zero. The pleasure is mine. These are not

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except the ball. Education? -- acceptable.

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You have made this movie with Wes Anderson. He has a specific tone and

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feel and look. Visit constricting? You know that is his style. A couple

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times, you banged up against it, the control of it. I liked it. I liked

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the fact he was precise. A bit of me was like that.

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Have you been questioned by the authorities? I was arrested and

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tortured. You know the drill. We will review the film next week.

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Now, Zac Efron, playing a man with the relationship dilemma in That

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Awkward Moment. Are you serious? This is a den of

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testosterone. She will talk about Xbox. She better have hot friends.

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Open the door. The movie is about best friends

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figuring out what it means to fall in love. Figuring out how much they

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rely on each other. Realising that being there for someone when they

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need you most is what being a true friend is. That is a direct line

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from the movie. Give me the ice cream. I need it. We are going out.

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You are single. We are staying single with you. Would you like a

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mint. You have four hours to drink like Keith Richards. I wanted to do

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a romantic comedy from the perspective of the guy. It was

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something important to me. I felt it should be on the screen. There is a

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changing dynamic in the way people date. And in the roles that guys and

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girls take. I am not going to do that. I will

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make you wait 40 days. I was going to make you wait. I feel it is

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different from other romantic comedies. You do not get the peek

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behind the curtain into some of the dumb things that otherwise smart

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individuals do. We had a chance to bond before

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filming, taking a trip into the wilderness, into the mountains. We

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chilled out in a cabin. We got to explore what the movie was about. I

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have got to take a leak. This is a stupid idea.

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What is to do with you and Chelsea? What are you doing here?

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It does not mean what you think it means. What does our relationship

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being? The most terrifying moment in

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relationships is the where is this going? What are we doing? Sometimes,

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you do not get exactly what you want and it makes it terrifying for

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people. I love the way we fit together in bed.

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Man, you are doing it. Before we begin, I will read out a

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tweet. This is from somebody called David, That Awkward Moment has

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pretty people playing horrible characters.

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I am with them. In a week with the death and scowling going on in other

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films, there is something to be said for a bit of fluff. It is like the

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fluff you pick out of your belly button. Do not go there. There are

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so many awkward moments and all of them feel very contrived. The

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awkward moment when you sleep with Imogen Poots, wake up and come to

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the conclusion she is a prostitute. The awkward moment when you find

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yourself you're relating horizontally and talking to your

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friends. None of the comedy comes from honest observation about

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20-something dating. It is a phoney plot. It is probably more fun

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working out who should go and see the movie because it is a chick

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flick inside a bromance. There are jokes about shoes and spray tans. I

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suppose it is for a couple on their first date, who do not have much to

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talk about and they can watch it and feel belittled and insulted about it

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and then go off and discuss it. It is a bit wrong. I feel bad saying

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it is wrong, but it should be funnier. It feels fake.

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It cannot admit what New York really is. It half admits that you need to

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own a oil producing former Soviet republic to live in man --

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Manhattan. Imogen Poots, she goes out and is picked up by Zac Efron,

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if you go out in Manhattan, you will find these people from Wall Street,

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or, gay men. The boys need to work through issues. Half of them -- half

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of the movie is spent in his apartment, discussing their penis

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size. They are like the sons of Patrick Bateman. One of them is

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good. I like Imogen Poots, but not in this role. In the first scene she

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has a dreadful monologue, explaining to somebody buying her a drink,

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saying she cannot take the drink because they will end up married. It

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is like being trapped in a romantic comedy hell. At the end of the film,

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Zac Efron re-enacts the scene, as if it is the great highlight. He says

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the words in the right order... People love Zac Efron. If we went to

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the movies and you had Lone Survivor, and you have this in the

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middle, sweet cute boys, running around New York, eating fruit, no?

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You can see in the clip in the interview how much fun they were

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having. Knowing he inspired that level of enthusiasm in them...

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Christian Bale and Casey Affleck are starring in Out Of The Furnace. A

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man takes the law into his own hands. It is tough. It makes me want

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to jump in there with you. I need the money. Always trouble. Since he

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was a little kid. There is nothing wrong with working for a living. I

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gave my life for this country. What has it done for me? I will do this

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one last fight and then I will be done. Showtime. They have not been

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able to find your brother. It is a whole other world. It does not

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include us. This guy, she holds the mountains.

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-- he haunts the mountains. I am Rodney Baze's brother. I am not

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leaving without him. What do you think? It is stuffed full of

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excellent performances. But it is predictable. It opens with any

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Jones, at a drive-in movie theatre -- Vinnie Jones. He is in a film. It

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is the last time the movie surprises you. A member of Pearl Jam starts

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grunting away and you find yourself in Pennsylvania, a blue-collar town.

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You start to think I have seen this town before and you realise it is in

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the Deer Hunter. It starts to remind you of that film up until the point

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where they go deer hunting. They skim the deer and we are

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intercutting with Casey Affleck with his face beaten to a pulp. It is not

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very subtle. Instead of Russian roulette in the Deer Hunter, we have

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bare-knuckle boxing. This is what Casey Affleck's character is drawn

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into. We have Woody Harrelson, he is playing a crazed, hillbilly psycho.

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If you ever thought about the kid in deliverance playing the banjo grew

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up to be. I like this performance more than in American hustle, by

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Christian Bale. There is some good stuff going on. It does not feel

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personal. It feels like a bunch of other films. I think you are being

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mean about it. I was hooked. As a portrayal of bad luck. Casey Affleck

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was brilliant. I do not think we disagree about performances but the

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story lost me. It is a film about the recession, you have the election

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of President Obama. Teddy Kennedy filmed on TV. There is an overtone

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that something bigger is being talked about. It just adds up to a

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hard luck story. You want more than that. That is OK. I admired its

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ambition but the theme of men in crisis, it is hammered home in a way

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that is not subtle. In this scene, Woody Harrelson, shoving a Frank --

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Frankfurt down a woman's throat. I wanted it to be more brave. I wished

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the plot did not hinge on a mobile phone going off when the voicemails

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pinned a key point in the narrative. I think Christian Bale is great. It

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is a stodgy role. He brings more than decency. You have the sense he

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has two thoughts in his head at once. There is a depth there, more

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than what he has done in other films. The bare knuckle fight. Even

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when he is breaking somebody's nose in a fight, he is fragile. Will

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Defoe is fantastic. Too many actors are given scraps. Film of the week?

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Insider Lewin Davies. -- Llewyn Davis. We are going to play out with

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a film. It was the two us after my father left. Her hands started

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shaking beyond her control. Leaving the house was difficult. I wonder if

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you can give me a hand. You are bleeding. He was kind enough to

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offer me a ride. We cannot help you. This needs to happen. Where do you

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want to go? Your house. Police are looking for Frank Chambers, an

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inmate at prison for murder. If somebody came by, we would need to

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make it look like I kidnapped you. I never intentionally hurt anybody in

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my life. What happened? There is more to the story then you see in

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that paper. You will not be needing that any longer. That is good. We

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should throw most of them away before they rot. I have another

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idea. He got together with his secretary. I should go. Maybe you

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should stay. They

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Claudia Winkleman, Danny Leigh and guest critic Tim Robey discuss new crime thriller Out of the Furnace, starring Christian Bale and Woody Harrelson. Other films featured in the programme include relationship comedy That Awkward Moment, starring Zac Efron, and action drama Lone Survivor, with Mark Wahlberg.


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