Episode 5 Film 2014


Episode 5

Film reviews. Claudia Winkleman and Danny Leigh look at Lars von Trier's controversial Nymphomaniac, Jim Jarmusch's Only Lovers Left Alive, and A New York Winter's Tale.


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Hello and welcome to Film 2014. We are live. If you'd like to get in

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touch the details are on the screen now. Coming up on tonight's show.

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Lars von Trier explores the explicit in his psycho-sexual epic,

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Nymphomaniac. My name is Jo. I'm a nymphomaniac. Tilda Swinton and Tom

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Hiddleston are bound for eternity in Only Lovers Left Alive. I have what

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you need. Not that I need. Geoffrey Rush and Emily Watson star in the

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adaptation of the bestseller The Book Thief. You've kept me alive.

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Don't ever forget that. Plus, we review Colin Farrell in a A New York

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Winter's Tale. Danny is here and we are joined by guest critic Kevin

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Kmare. That was very well done. First up, Nymphomaniac Parts One and

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Two, the story of Joe, a self-confessed nymphomaniac who

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looks back on her erotic encounters. If I asked you to take my virginity

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would that be a problem Not a problem. You have to ask him if he

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wants to have sex with me. I'm a nymphomaniac. We say sex addict. The

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story of a self-diagnosed nymphomaniac. From the age of about

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50, told by Charlotte Gainsbourg. I play Joe, so from 15-31. When

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Charlotte comes she tells a story I come into the flakbacks. Joe is in

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her self-discovery. Take them to the laboratory and you have sex with

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them. What if it's nasty? You think of a bag of chocolate sweeties.

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Because I was playing Joe when she was discovering herself by the time

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Charlotte takes over Joe is more self-assured. She knows what she is

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doing. I don't know if they'd ever have been able to cut the film in

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about two hours. It would have been impossible. So that Lars can put all

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the things he wanted to put in. It needed to be in two films. I mean

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the sex scenes, I mean it is strange, you know. I'm not going to

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lie. But it's also, you're provided with prosthetics. You are going to a

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porn double, there are all these effects. Immediately you go - it's

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fine. If I can stay within my comfort zone and still be able to,

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you know, act in this film and work with Lars then, great. I'm going to

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jump in. Would it be all right if I show the children the whoreing

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built. They have a stake in this event. It was daunting. It was also

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extremely fun and it was a really great challenge for me. It was my

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first first role. My first job. To be surrounded by these amazing

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actors, oh, my God, Uma Thurman, Christian Slater Hollywood actors

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hes, these are the big guns I'm not even a pistol. Perhaps the

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difference between me and other people is that I've always demanded

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for more from the sunset. More spectacular colours when the sun hit

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the horizon. That's about my only sin. As soon as you bring up

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sexuality, immediately it creates a problem. I think maybe that's why

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they see it as controversial. I don't think he's trying to say this

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is what sex is, I think he's also trying to show that sex isn't always

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romantic, as you see it in the movies. It doesn't have to be

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romantic. You always see it with silky sheets. Then they kiss, oh,

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they are done. It's like - wait a minute!

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I've never met a bad human being. Well, you have now. Before we talk

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about what you both think of the film we should say it's accent week.

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Hence Kevin went off on one, which we loved. Will you do that the whole

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time I'll try! What do you think? Is There is no end of grunting and

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heaving and sweating and moaning and grinding in Nymphomaniac. There are

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all kinds of sex going on, I learnt a few new things myself. It's about

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everything at once, religion, families, fly-fishing, it's abouts

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Lars von Trier and anyone who knows Lars von Trier in any one scene in

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his films you feel about applauding and strangling him. That's true for

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Nymphomaniac for the duration of the four hours. There would be moments

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of boredom and where you think of writing a stern letter of

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complaints. This film is intensely funny and wildly inventive and

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almost heartbreaking. The world is a more interesting place for having

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Nymphomaniac in it. I found someone who disagrees. I can't find out what

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accent is next. Frank Lamb says, "it's dross, like a film made by an

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art student trying to impress the pretty girl in the class" Is it

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Frank? Yes? Is I feel we saw different films. The film I was saw

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was intriguing. It's two films. The film I saw was intriguing for the

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first film and a bit of the second film. It had an interesting motor

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and idea which was to marry explicit sex with intellectual curiosities.

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In doing so it seemed to be trying to lift the veil on humanitarian

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where we all -- humanity where we live in a place where it's a battle

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between mind, soul, in ellect verses the gut. Somewhere maybe, at the

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point where Charlotte Gainsbourg's body double was getting their bum

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whacked38 times the film anded me and Lars von Trier lost interest

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interest in what they were doing. It suddenly fell apart. It became

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boring. You saw, this is what he was doing. Because it was very long

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Would you preferred, we should explain you watch the first one,

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there is an interval, then you watch the second one. Would you prefer to

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watch the first oned and be done with it? It could be a size issue.

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Too big to handle. Will get into trouble! It's the repetition. I

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think after four hours it's a four hour sex marathon. After that much

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time the cracks start to show. I don't think it's as clever as he

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thinks it. Lars von Trier makes films like he thinks he is the

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cleverest person in the room. Thought most of it was supposed to

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be funny. Did I... It's volatile cocktail. You have the art house

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gloom and despair going on. The other half is Carry On, Frankie

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Howard. I don't think he thinks he is clever. It's unfashionably

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sincere. No. I think he means it. It can't be Carry On and sincere at the

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same time. It's studently funny. It's the idea of - let's have a

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wacky fight of about 95% of paedophiles are all great because

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they don't act on their impulses and more sex - That's not played for

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laughs You are being poked and prodded all the time by an Iish

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student. That is Lars von Trier's whole thing. Did you not like the

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marriage of this woman who was desperate to shock her audience.

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She's Lars von Trier. I quite like... OK, right. Thank you. But

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against him, who is unshockable? Did you not like those two... That's the

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mechanics of the movie. It's not a story. It's like, without being

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pretentious, like dialogue where he's just, a, verses b, put them

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together am they bang about a couple of ideas. Quickly. Can we just

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mention performances. Anybody stand out for you? Is Mixed performances.

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Jamie Bell makes this fantastic. Shifting sadist. Uma Thurman steals

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the film in five minutes. Given the film it is takes doing. Christian

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Slater looks like it wasn't the career he was expecting when he was

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doing Pump up the Volume. Sheila's accent comes from a country we

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haven't discovered. I'm horrified - So down on it? Absolutely. Films

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like this don't come along so often. The sooner or later Lars von Trier

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his career is like a therapy session for him. Sooner or later he will

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crack it and work out of his systemed and make Legally Blonde. At

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that point we would have lost something. You say lost, I say gain.

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Nymphomaniac 1 and 2 will be in cinemas for one day only this

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Saturday and then on general release from Friday 28th. Next, Colin

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Farrell stars as a man in search of a miracle in A New York Winter's

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Tale. There is a world behind the world, where we are all connected.

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What winter's tale is a fairytale for grownups. A thief who falls in

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love with a dying heirest hes and hopes he can save her life with his

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love. It squeaks. You have a gun? Just robbing the place, you know. Is

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that still your intention? No, it isn't. Well, then, I suppose the

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polite thing to do would be to offer you a cup of tea. It's a piece of

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fiction. His journey through it was very much born of his... A lot of

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his experience of love and loss. My My wife passed away while I was

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trying to figure out how to turn it into a navigatable object. It became

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a kind of love letter to her. What's the best thing you've ever stolen?

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I'm beginning to think I haven't stolen it yet. They have a love

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affair that transcends time and ends up kind of existing in some way

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shape or form for the 100 years that the story takes place. These two

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people have never believed that that would ever be part of their life.

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The that they fall even quicker and even more madly. You are impossibly

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beautiful. So are you. It's about the most unedgy script that I've

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ever read. It's so sentimental. It's so sweet and it inspires to such

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lofty notions about love. It was one of the things that scared me about

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it, but one of the things I loved about it. Are you all right? I'm

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Abbey. What is your name? I don't know. I've had no memory for as long

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as I can remember. I appreciate the help. I hope it finds its place. It

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is a utterly romantic, utterly uncynical object. The Her name was

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Beverly. What's happening here? Their love is so strong it agenda

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Tats the shades of light and dark manipulating the existence of all

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human beings. You will not be saving anyone. Maybe there is something you

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are still meant to do. It was definitely, you know, it continues

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to be a very, very pro emotional experience. -- profound emotional

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experience. Is What do you think? Best Film I have seen. Can we do

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accents. It's indignified to carp on about accents as they are trying to

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do their best. Russell Crowe's Irish accent is straight out of The Little

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People. Never heard it spoke... Low pressure are corn. That for me

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up-ended the film. Maybe American's don't complain about Liam Neeson's

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American accent. It's Showgirl's cheese. Yeah, it's the Showgirl's

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version of you know Princesses Bride of a romantic movie. Even mentioning

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the Princess Bride. It's difficult to make a cult movie nowadays. To

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make a cult movie it has to be accidental. Everybody know what is

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they are doing. Everybody is knowing. This is a true cult movie

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in waiting. I don't think anybody knew what they were doing. If you

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went to see tie tantic having been force fed cough medicine and been

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asked what you saw, it's kind of this film. Russell Crowe, it's

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extraordinary what he is doing. The only explanation I think is that he

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came off the set of Les Mis, and thought, next time I will take it up

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a notch. He has. Will Smith? There is a gem of a nice idea in this.

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Half way I got it, OK, it's Gangs of New York meets the mortal

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instruments this is what they are doing, angels and demons in New

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York. Maybe with different director, different script and cast this could

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have been the film - With do you respect the sad circumstances this

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came out, to have the same writer, same producer, if any film was

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calling out for a producer to stride on set and say, no, no, it's this.

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Will Smith and Russell Crowe are extraordinary. If you were

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directoring a panto you might say "tone it down, loves" here they

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don't. They think they have gold dust in the bag. Everyone in the

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screening room was aghast. I can't explain what it's about. You know,

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there is a horse, he's good. Other people are bad. The horse is really

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a dog. Yes, there is that. Don't pull on that string.

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Now, Tilda Swinton and Tom Hiddleston team up as a pair of

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vampires who have been in love for centuries in Only Lovers Left Alive.

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When it first met Jim, all he said to me, he wanted to make a film

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about love. And really, it was about two people, Yemen and yang, black

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and white, the sun and the moon. They were very rare, sensitive,

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allocate beings. And the twist was, that these two creatures were

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vampires. They are vampires that lives without

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reflection. But I think they reflect each other. That is the way that

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they operate for one another. So there is something unique about

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them. Having said that, there may be a pair of vampires living on every

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corner, you don't know. I can think of some people who might very well

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be described as such. 1868. I look so young. That suicidal Mt scandal.

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Let's hope he is just Ron Antic. Being so reclusive and everything is

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probably only going to make me more interested in your music. What a

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drag back in our contemporary culture, vampires are everywhere.

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Blood on a stick. Delicious. Jim was taking something that was very

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popular and making it his own. Why don't think I have ever met anyone

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like him. He is a poet. He is a poet of cinema and music. We're going to

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have so much fun together. I don't think I did anything particularly to

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prepare for the role. I hung out with Jim Jarmusch for, I don't know

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how long. I have hung out with him for 15 years!

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You have been pretty lucky in love. If I'm a say-so. -- if I may say so.

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I have what you need. Not what I need.

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Danny? I have always had certain preconceptions about the kind of

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people that were sunshine to lack -- sunglasses in nightclubs. But it

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turns out they were just vampires, Jim Jarmusch vampires. They are

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these affable, slightly depressed and cats. I think that works. As Jim

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Jarmusch movies go, this is slight and sweet. It is charming. I can

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find nothing to objective. I agree totally. -- nothing to object to. It

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is hard and depressing to see you do not object to anything but it is

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like Jim Jarmusch is hit and miss. He made an appalling movie a few

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years ago and then Broken Flowers before that. He is up and down. This

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felt like his challenge was to make a vampire film after twilight. It

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seems like it is such a dead genre, excuse the pun. Post Twilight, it is

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so difficult to make something original. Identity was reasonable.

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That was arthouse vampires. Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter. Struggling

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at the edge of the genre. Jarmusch's question seems to be, can

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you make it his own a of hipster guitarists. And it is fine. It is

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much better than fine! The answer is, yes. I think the casting is

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great. Tom Hiddleston and Tilda Swinton, they are fun to watch and

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they are having fun. It is smart casting, because they have that a of

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dilapidated aristocrats, who might have been around for thousands of

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years locked in a spare room in Mick Jagger's house in Performance. It

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did not want to be a vampire film. I thought it was about true love and

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they just happened to be vampires. It was not all about vampires. A lot

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to their characters and therefore they were great together. -- I love

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their characters. I would tell people to go and see this film.

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There was some voluntary -esque name-dropping. Shakespeare and

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Marleau... -- voluntary. It has to keep nudging you in the ribs to let

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you know that it is really into the White stripes. But there are funny

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moments. Jeffrey Wright, Tom Hiddleston, there was the scene

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where he arrived at his hospital, covered in blood and he was the

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world's least convincing Doctor. Every one of those scenes makes the

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film worth it. And Detroit is a fantastic location, these skeletal

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ruins. I've been waiting for a film that was not a remake of Robocop to

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come and use Detroit as a location. Finally, Geoffrey Rush and Emily

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Watson star in The Book Thief, adapted from the best selling young

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adult novel by Markus Zusak. It is set in a small town in Germany

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in a very ordinary little street, with an ordinary little family.

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Everything is seen through the eyes of a young girl who arrives as a

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foster child in this home. There is an archetypical mean stepmother and

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an archetypical gentle woodcarver of a stepfather who teaches her to

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read. There is a secretive that the family has which is that a young

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Jewish boy asks for their help and they hide him in the basement for

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two years. Quickly! Who seek? -- who is he. His name is Max and he needs

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help. Are you hiding from Hitler? I am in. I am a Jew. If anyone saw

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him, they would take you away from me and I cannot tell you what they

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would do for him -- from him. No melodrama, no sentimentality.

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Honest. No acting. Because we have to believe what these characters are

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going through. They are checking the basement. What is this about? Max!

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Max! It is an odd thing. I think if they

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are wrecked decides to take on an adaptation, he doesn't because he

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really the original source material. They would not do it if

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they did not like the novel. Did anyone see UQ back -- see you? We

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will make this our secret. It is very interesting. We are now seeing

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audiences and people engaging on a strong emotional level. You have

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kept me alive. Don't forget that. Words are life. If your eyes could

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speak, what would they say? I wanted it to appeal to a wider audience. I

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wanted 12-year-olds to go to the film got it has such a positive

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message and because it deals with a part of history that should not be

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forgotten. There once was a girl who had a

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friend that lived in the shadows. She would remind him of how the sun

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felt on his skin and Bobby air felt like to breathe. -- wanted the air.

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And that reminded her that she was still alive. What did you think? It

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is cuddly blanket of a film but it does that by telling you that war is

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not as bad as all that. It looks lavish and lush. It has that look

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that can only be achieved by sending people out to polish everything

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between takes. If you want a World War II movie where even the book

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burning looks nice, this is the film for you. So harsh! So harsh! They

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are meant to be nice! It is a look at Germany during World War II.

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Possibly a very pretty Germany, but I've thought that was great. I

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thought the idea that you going into the classroom and there is a

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portrait of Hitler and nobody is freaked out by it and the kids are

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singing anti-Semitic songs and no one is freaked out and then they go

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to the book morning and night and no one has bothered, halfway through

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that I was unnerved. -- book burning. I thought this was

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subversive. But you think, they are OK, they are not really Nazis.

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Germany was not really full of Nazis(!) Book was number one in the

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New York Best Seller list for 230 weeks. -- of the book. I love to the

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first three pages so much. I thought character, Death, did not appear in

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the film, so I'd got the film. -- the book. Markus Zusak is very good

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year and Emily Watson is incapable of being bad. But when you think

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about what they have to work with. There is a rich streak of guff in

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this film. The first scene, boy is brought to Emily Watson, a stern

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hausfrau. She looks at her, and she says, cannot even have her in the

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house because she is filthy. And she looks like she has been in the spa

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for a week. She is radiant and glowing. She looks like a friend of

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Coleen Rooney. That all business runs through the whole film. You

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know what that is, that is casting. -- that bogus mess. It is made by

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Brian Percival, who cut his teeth on Downton Abbey. So it is going to be

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traditional film-making. I believe what Truffaut used to call the

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cinema to Papa. It is traditional, non-challenging. If you accept those

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parameters, it is dignified storytelling. I did not find it

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dignified. And there is the most crass moment of product placement I

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think I have ever seen in the history of cinema at the end. It is

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a pivotal moment and it is kind of out of nowhere. It is like Schindler

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is list being interrupted so that Liam Neeson can have a can of juice.

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The director said he wanted 12-year-olds to go and see it. Maybe

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that is why it is softer? A World War II movie doesn't have to be

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gut-wrenching. It doesn't have to be existentially ruined. But it was not

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a nice time. Moving onto film of the week. Lars Von Trier's Nymphomaniac.

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It has to be The Book Thief. Nymphomaniac is misogynistic, wildly

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misogynistic. As a woman, how can you not notice that? I think

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everything is such a mystic. But did not think that was particularly.

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Now, we have to debate this for hours. That is a brilliant time to

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bring that up. We will chat, off a. -- off air. And The Book Thief will

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be in cinemas from February 26th. That's all from us. We'll be back

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next Wednesday at 11:05, when we review Liam Neeson in Non Stop,

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Danny meets Wes Anderson and we and talk all things Oscar. We're going

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to play out tonight with Noah, the new film from Black Swan director,

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Darren Aronofsky. It's in cinemas in April. Thank you so much for

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watching. Good night.

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Man corrupted this world. He polluted it with violence. So we

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must be destroyed. A great flood is coming. We must make a vessel to

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hold the innocent. Father! Ham! There is nothing for you here. You

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define me? I am not alone. The choice is in your hands, no. --

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Noah. When they come, they will be desperate and they will be many.

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Take the arc!

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Film 2014 returns to review the latest movie releases. Under consideration this week is Lars von Trier's controversial Nymphomaniac Volumes One and Two, starring Charlotte Gainsbourg alongside an ensemble cast. Tilda Swinton stars in Jim Jarmusch's Only Lovers Left Alive, and Colin Farrell leads the cast of fantasy drama A New York Winter's Tale.


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