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Hello and welcome to Film 2014. We are live. If you'd like to get in

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touch the details are on the screen now. Coming up on tonight's show.

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Lars von Trier explores the explicit in his psycho-sexual epic,

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Nymphomaniac. My name is Jo. I'm a nymphomaniac. Tilda Swinton and Tom

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Hiddleston are bound for eternity in Only Lovers Left Alive. I have what

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you need. Not that I need. Geoffrey Rush and Emily Watson star in the

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adaptation of the bestseller The Book Thief. You've kept me alive.

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Don't ever forget that. Plus, we review Colin Farrell in a A New York

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Winter's Tale. Danny is here and we are joined by guest critic Kevin

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Kmare. That was very well done. First up, Nymphomaniac Parts One and

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Two, the story of Joe, a self-confessed nymphomaniac who

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looks back on her erotic encounters. If I asked you to take my virginity

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would that be a problem Not a problem. You have to ask him if he

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wants to have sex with me. I'm a nymphomaniac. We say sex addict. The

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story of a self-diagnosed nymphomaniac. From the age of about

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50, told by Charlotte Gainsbourg. I play Joe, so from 15-31. When

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Charlotte comes she tells a story I come into the flakbacks. Joe is in

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her self-discovery. Take them to the laboratory and you have sex with

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them. What if it's nasty? You think of a bag of chocolate sweeties.

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Because I was playing Joe when she was discovering herself by the time

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Charlotte takes over Joe is more self-assured. She knows what she is

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doing. I don't know if they'd ever have been able to cut the film in

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about two hours. It would have been impossible. So that Lars can put all

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the things he wanted to put in. It needed to be in two films. I mean

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the sex scenes, I mean it is strange, you know. I'm not going to

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lie. But it's also, you're provided with prosthetics. You are going to a

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porn double, there are all these effects. Immediately you go - it's

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fine. If I can stay within my comfort zone and still be able to,

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you know, act in this film and work with Lars then, great. I'm going to

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jump in. Would it be all right if I show the children the whoreing

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built. They have a stake in this event. It was daunting. It was also

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extremely fun and it was a really great challenge for me. It was my

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first first role. My first job. To be surrounded by these amazing

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actors, oh, my God, Uma Thurman, Christian Slater Hollywood actors

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hes, these are the big guns I'm not even a pistol. Perhaps the

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difference between me and other people is that I've always demanded

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for more from the sunset. More spectacular colours when the sun hit

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the horizon. That's about my only sin. As soon as you bring up

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sexuality, immediately it creates a problem. I think maybe that's why

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they see it as controversial. I don't think he's trying to say this

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is what sex is, I think he's also trying to show that sex isn't always

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romantic, as you see it in the movies. It doesn't have to be

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romantic. You always see it with silky sheets. Then they kiss, oh,

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they are done. It's like - wait a minute!

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I've never met a bad human being. Well, you have now. Before we talk

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about what you both think of the film we should say it's accent week.

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Hence Kevin went off on one, which we loved. Will you do that the whole

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time I'll try! What do you think? Is There is no end of grunting and

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heaving and sweating and moaning and grinding in Nymphomaniac. There are

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all kinds of sex going on, I learnt a few new things myself. It's about

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everything at once, religion, families, fly-fishing, it's abouts

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Lars von Trier and anyone who knows Lars von Trier in any one scene in

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his films you feel about applauding and strangling him. That's true for

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Nymphomaniac for the duration of the four hours. There would be moments

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of boredom and where you think of writing a stern letter of

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complaints. This film is intensely funny and wildly inventive and

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almost heartbreaking. The world is a more interesting place for having

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Nymphomaniac in it. I found someone who disagrees. I can't find out what

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accent is next. Frank Lamb says, "it's dross, like a film made by an

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art student trying to impress the pretty girl in the class" Is it

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Frank? Yes? Is I feel we saw different films. The film I was saw

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was intriguing. It's two films. The film I saw was intriguing for the

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first film and a bit of the second film. It had an interesting motor

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and idea which was to marry explicit sex with intellectual curiosities.

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In doing so it seemed to be trying to lift the veil on humanitarian

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where we all -- humanity where we live in a place where it's a battle

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between mind, soul, in ellect verses the gut. Somewhere maybe, at the

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point where Charlotte Gainsbourg's body double was getting their bum

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whacked38 times the film anded me and Lars von Trier lost interest

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interest in what they were doing. It suddenly fell apart. It became

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boring. You saw, this is what he was doing. Because it was very long

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Would you preferred, we should explain you watch the first one,

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there is an interval, then you watch the second one. Would you prefer to

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watch the first oned and be done with it? It could be a size issue.

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Too big to handle. Will get into trouble! It's the repetition. I

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think after four hours it's a four hour sex marathon. After that much

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time the cracks start to show. I don't think it's as clever as he

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thinks it. Lars von Trier makes films like he thinks he is the

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cleverest person in the room. Thought most of it was supposed to

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be funny. Did I... It's volatile cocktail. You have the art house

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gloom and despair going on. The other half is Carry On, Frankie

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Howard. I don't think he thinks he is clever. It's unfashionably

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sincere. No. I think he means it. It can't be Carry On and sincere at the

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same time. It's studently funny. It's the idea of - let's have a

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wacky fight of about 95% of paedophiles are all great because

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they don't act on their impulses and more sex - That's not played for

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laughs You are being poked and prodded all the time by an Iish

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student. That is Lars von Trier's whole thing. Did you not like the

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marriage of this woman who was desperate to shock her audience.

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She's Lars von Trier. I quite like... OK, right. Thank you. But

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against him, who is unshockable? Did you not like those two... That's the

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mechanics of the movie. It's not a story. It's like, without being

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pretentious, like dialogue where he's just, a, verses b, put them

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together am they bang about a couple of ideas. Quickly. Can we just

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mention performances. Anybody stand out for you? Is Mixed performances.

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Jamie Bell makes this fantastic. Shifting sadist. Uma Thurman steals

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the film in five minutes. Given the film it is takes doing. Christian

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Slater looks like it wasn't the career he was expecting when he was

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doing Pump up the Volume. Sheila's accent comes from a country we

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haven't discovered. I'm horrified - So down on it? Absolutely. Films

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like this don't come along so often. The sooner or later Lars von Trier

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his career is like a therapy session for him. Sooner or later he will

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crack it and work out of his systemed and make Legally Blonde. At

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that point we would have lost something. You say lost, I say gain.

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Nymphomaniac 1 and 2 will be in cinemas for one day only this

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Saturday and then on general release from Friday 28th. Next, Colin

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Farrell stars as a man in search of a miracle in A New York Winter's

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Tale. There is a world behind the world, where we are all connected.

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What winter's tale is a fairytale for grownups. A thief who falls in

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love with a dying heirest hes and hopes he can save her life with his

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love. It squeaks. You have a gun? Just robbing the place, you know. Is

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that still your intention? No, it isn't. Well, then, I suppose the

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polite thing to do would be to offer you a cup of tea. It's a piece of

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fiction. His journey through it was very much born of his... A lot of

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his experience of love and loss. My My wife passed away while I was

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trying to figure out how to turn it into a navigatable object. It became

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a kind of love letter to her. What's the best thing you've ever stolen?

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I'm beginning to think I haven't stolen it yet. They have a love

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affair that transcends time and ends up kind of existing in some way

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shape or form for the 100 years that the story takes place. These two

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people have never believed that that would ever be part of their life.

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The that they fall even quicker and even more madly. You are impossibly

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beautiful. So are you. It's about the most unedgy script that I've

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ever read. It's so sentimental. It's so sweet and it inspires to such

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lofty notions about love. It was one of the things that scared me about

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it, but one of the things I loved about it. Are you all right? I'm

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Abbey. What is your name? I don't know. I've had no memory for as long

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as I can remember. I appreciate the help. I hope it finds its place. It

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is a utterly romantic, utterly uncynical object. The Her name was

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Beverly. What's happening here? Their love is so strong it agenda

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Tats the shades of light and dark manipulating the existence of all

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human beings. You will not be saving anyone. Maybe there is something you

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are still meant to do. It was definitely, you know, it continues

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to be a very, very pro emotional experience. -- profound emotional

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experience. Is What do you think? Best Film I have seen. Can we do

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accents. It's indignified to carp on about accents as they are trying to

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do their best. Russell Crowe's Irish accent is straight out of The Little

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People. Never heard it spoke... Low pressure are corn. That for me

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up-ended the film. Maybe American's don't complain about Liam Neeson's

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American accent. It's Showgirl's cheese. Yeah, it's the Showgirl's

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version of you know Princesses Bride of a romantic movie. Even mentioning

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the Princess Bride. It's difficult to make a cult movie nowadays. To

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make a cult movie it has to be accidental. Everybody know what is

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they are doing. Everybody is knowing. This is a true cult movie

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in waiting. I don't think anybody knew what they were doing. If you

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went to see tie tantic having been force fed cough medicine and been

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asked what you saw, it's kind of this film. Russell Crowe, it's

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extraordinary what he is doing. The only explanation I think is that he

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came off the set of Les Mis, and thought, next time I will take it up

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a notch. He has. Will Smith? There is a gem of a nice idea in this.

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Half way I got it, OK, it's Gangs of New York meets the mortal

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instruments this is what they are doing, angels and demons in New

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York. Maybe with different director, different script and cast this could

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have been the film - With do you respect the sad circumstances this

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came out, to have the same writer, same producer, if any film was

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calling out for a producer to stride on set and say, no, no, it's this.

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Will Smith and Russell Crowe are extraordinary. If you were

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directoring a panto you might say "tone it down, loves" here they

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don't. They think they have gold dust in the bag. Everyone in the

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screening room was aghast. I can't explain what it's about. You know,

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there is a horse, he's good. Other people are bad. The horse is really

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a dog. Yes, there is that. Don't pull on that string.

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Now, Tilda Swinton and Tom Hiddleston team up as a pair of

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vampires who have been in love for centuries in Only Lovers Left Alive.

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When it first met Jim, all he said to me, he wanted to make a film

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about love. And really, it was about two people, Yemen and yang, black

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and white, the sun and the moon. They were very rare, sensitive,

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allocate beings. And the twist was, that these two creatures were

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vampires. They are vampires that lives without

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reflection. But I think they reflect each other. That is the way that

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they operate for one another. So there is something unique about

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them. Having said that, there may be a pair of vampires living on every

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corner, you don't know. I can think of some people who might very well

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be described as such. 1868. I look so young. That suicidal Mt scandal.

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Let's hope he is just Ron Antic. Being so reclusive and everything is

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probably only going to make me more interested in your music. What a

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drag back in our contemporary culture, vampires are everywhere.

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Blood on a stick. Delicious. Jim was taking something that was very

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popular and making it his own. Why don't think I have ever met anyone

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like him. He is a poet. He is a poet of cinema and music. We're going to

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have so much fun together. I don't think I did anything particularly to

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prepare for the role. I hung out with Jim Jarmusch for, I don't know

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how long. I have hung out with him for 15 years!

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You have been pretty lucky in love. If I'm a say-so. -- if I may say so.

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I have what you need. Not what I need.

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Danny? I have always had certain preconceptions about the kind of

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people that were sunshine to lack -- sunglasses in nightclubs. But it

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turns out they were just vampires, Jim Jarmusch vampires. They are

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these affable, slightly depressed and cats. I think that works. As Jim

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Jarmusch movies go, this is slight and sweet. It is charming. I can

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find nothing to objective. I agree totally. -- nothing to object to. It

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is hard and depressing to see you do not object to anything but it is

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like Jim Jarmusch is hit and miss. He made an appalling movie a few

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years ago and then Broken Flowers before that. He is up and down. This

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felt like his challenge was to make a vampire film after twilight. It

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seems like it is such a dead genre, excuse the pun. Post Twilight, it is

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so difficult to make something original. Identity was reasonable.

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That was arthouse vampires. Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter. Struggling

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at the edge of the genre. Jarmusch's question seems to be, can

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you make it his own a of hipster guitarists. And it is fine. It is

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much better than fine! The answer is, yes. I think the casting is

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great. Tom Hiddleston and Tilda Swinton, they are fun to watch and

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they are having fun. It is smart casting, because they have that a of

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dilapidated aristocrats, who might have been around for thousands of

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years locked in a spare room in Mick Jagger's house in Performance. It

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did not want to be a vampire film. I thought it was about true love and

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they just happened to be vampires. It was not all about vampires. A lot

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to their characters and therefore they were great together. -- I love

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their characters. I would tell people to go and see this film.

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There was some voluntary -esque name-dropping. Shakespeare and

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Marleau... -- voluntary. It has to keep nudging you in the ribs to let

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you know that it is really into the White stripes. But there are funny

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moments. Jeffrey Wright, Tom Hiddleston, there was the scene

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where he arrived at his hospital, covered in blood and he was the

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world's least convincing Doctor. Every one of those scenes makes the

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film worth it. And Detroit is a fantastic location, these skeletal

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ruins. I've been waiting for a film that was not a remake of Robocop to

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come and use Detroit as a location. Finally, Geoffrey Rush and Emily

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Watson star in The Book Thief, adapted from the best selling young

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adult novel by Markus Zusak. It is set in a small town in Germany

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in a very ordinary little street, with an ordinary little family.

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Everything is seen through the eyes of a young girl who arrives as a

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foster child in this home. There is an archetypical mean stepmother and

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an archetypical gentle woodcarver of a stepfather who teaches her to

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read. There is a secretive that the family has which is that a young

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Jewish boy asks for their help and they hide him in the basement for

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two years. Quickly! Who seek? -- who is he. His name is Max and he needs

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help. Are you hiding from Hitler? I am in. I am a Jew. If anyone saw

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him, they would take you away from me and I cannot tell you what they

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would do for him -- from him. No melodrama, no sentimentality.

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Honest. No acting. Because we have to believe what these characters are

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going through. They are checking the basement. What is this about? Max!

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Max! It is an odd thing. I think if they

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are wrecked decides to take on an adaptation, he doesn't because he

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really the original source material. They would not do it if

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they did not like the novel. Did anyone see UQ back -- see you? We

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will make this our secret. It is very interesting. We are now seeing

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audiences and people engaging on a strong emotional level. You have

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kept me alive. Don't forget that. Words are life. If your eyes could

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speak, what would they say? I wanted it to appeal to a wider audience. I

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wanted 12-year-olds to go to the film got it has such a positive

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message and because it deals with a part of history that should not be

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forgotten. There once was a girl who had a

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friend that lived in the shadows. She would remind him of how the sun

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felt on his skin and Bobby air felt like to breathe. -- wanted the air.

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And that reminded her that she was still alive. What did you think? It

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is cuddly blanket of a film but it does that by telling you that war is

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not as bad as all that. It looks lavish and lush. It has that look

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that can only be achieved by sending people out to polish everything

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between takes. If you want a World War II movie where even the book

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burning looks nice, this is the film for you. So harsh! So harsh! They

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are meant to be nice! It is a look at Germany during World War II.

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Possibly a very pretty Germany, but I've thought that was great. I

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thought the idea that you going into the classroom and there is a

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portrait of Hitler and nobody is freaked out by it and the kids are

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singing anti-Semitic songs and no one is freaked out and then they go

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to the book morning and night and no one has bothered, halfway through

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that I was unnerved. -- book burning. I thought this was

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subversive. But you think, they are OK, they are not really Nazis.

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Germany was not really full of Nazis(!) Book was number one in the

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New York Best Seller list for 230 weeks. -- of the book. I love to the

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first three pages so much. I thought character, Death, did not appear in

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the film, so I'd got the film. -- the book. Markus Zusak is very good

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year and Emily Watson is incapable of being bad. But when you think

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about what they have to work with. There is a rich streak of guff in

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this film. The first scene, boy is brought to Emily Watson, a stern

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hausfrau. She looks at her, and she says, cannot even have her in the

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house because she is filthy. And she looks like she has been in the spa

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for a week. She is radiant and glowing. She looks like a friend of

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Coleen Rooney. That all business runs through the whole film. You

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know what that is, that is casting. -- that bogus mess. It is made by

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Brian Percival, who cut his teeth on Downton Abbey. So it is going to be

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traditional film-making. I believe what Truffaut used to call the

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cinema to Papa. It is traditional, non-challenging. If you accept those

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parameters, it is dignified storytelling. I did not find it

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dignified. And there is the most crass moment of product placement I

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think I have ever seen in the history of cinema at the end. It is

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a pivotal moment and it is kind of out of nowhere. It is like Schindler

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is list being interrupted so that Liam Neeson can have a can of juice.

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The director said he wanted 12-year-olds to go and see it. Maybe

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that is why it is softer? A World War II movie doesn't have to be

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gut-wrenching. It doesn't have to be existentially ruined. But it was not

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a nice time. Moving onto film of the week. Lars Von Trier's Nymphomaniac.

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It has to be The Book Thief. Nymphomaniac is misogynistic, wildly

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misogynistic. As a woman, how can you not notice that? I think

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everything is such a mystic. But did not think that was particularly.

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Now, we have to debate this for hours. That is a brilliant time to

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bring that up. We will chat, off a. -- off air. And The Book Thief will

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be in cinemas from February 26th. That's all from us. We'll be back

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next Wednesday at 11:05, when we review Liam Neeson in Non Stop,

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Danny meets Wes Anderson and we and talk all things Oscar. We're going

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to play out tonight with Noah, the new film from Black Swan director,

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Darren Aronofsky. It's in cinemas in April. Thank you so much for

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watching. Good night.

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Man corrupted this world. He polluted it with violence. So we

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must be destroyed. A great flood is coming. We must make a vessel to

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hold the innocent. Father! Ham! There is nothing for you here. You

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define me? I am not alone. The choice is in your hands, no. --

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Noah. When they come, they will be desperate and they will be many.

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Take the arc!

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