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This programme contains some strong language.

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Hello there, this is Film 2017, and I'm Lauren Laverne.

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It's probably well past everyone's bedtime,

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but we're live and - crucially - awake,

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Tonight, we're celebrating the career of Sir John Hurt,

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Drop us a tweet and tell us - what's your favourite Hurt

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All that glitters. We've got a gold mine. Matthew McConaughey stars in

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adventure romp Gold. What a goddamn ride! Would you marry

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me? Ruth Negga stars in race drama Loving.

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And bless, she is killing for two, murder and motherhood combined for

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Alice Lowe in pregnancy slasher flick Alice Lowe.

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I'm gonna cut you. Plus, we'll be looking

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at German vater und daughter With me to talk all things

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movie-related are critics Gentleman, hello. Hello. Hello. As

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the opening hello awkward question, what is your cinema snack of choice?

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Harrow Borough at all times. I would bring a large fruits direct -- fruit

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salad and help myself. How classy! Kicking off the show tonight

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is adventure drama Gold, starring a fat, balding

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Matthew McConaughey as Kenny Wells - a money man on-the-make,

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who misguidedly goes in search of gold and fortune

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in the jungles of Indonesia. I had a dream. It was like I was

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being called. It was a gold calling. It was a gold calling.

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It was 1988, gold calling. It was 1988, I lost my house. I lost

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everything. Most people would have been dead, but I'm here. We've got

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our gold mine! We got a gold mine! Yes!

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Do you believe you're sitting on a larger scald find of the decade? We

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are talking over $30 billion. How does it feel to be a rock star?

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There is no way I could possibly describe the feeling. Amazing how a

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little gold can just change everything. It almost seems too good

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to be true. It usually is! Better or worse, the right had begun

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and what a goddamn ride! What happened at the meeting? You

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want to talk about the truth? FBI! $17 million disappeared

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overnight. I'm not in a die! -- I am touching a

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tiger. Not even a metaphor, he was touching a tiger.

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Seven years since the last film of Stephen Gaghan, have we missed him?

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His last film was really good, I am not sure about Gold, it is all about

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Matthew McConaughey, I have never seen anybody so childishly excited

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about this paunch and this boldness, I think he thinks that his acting

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and it becomes a test of strength. How much of his twinkly Hollywood

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charisma can withstand the indignity of sitting in his Y fronts? He has

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done big transformations before, Dallas Buyers Club, very thin in

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that movie and a wonderful film. I liked him in that. He is

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insufferable in this. He is absolutely unbearable. His self love

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pulses radioactively from the screen, it is just unbearable! He is

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so high risk, he is a big gun and he goes off with a loud bang! Sometimes

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he is a loose cannon. He needs a tight script and a close directorial

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hand, he gets neither here and the film itself is such a Turkey, it is

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stodgy and shapeless and rubbish. It was the makings of a great story,

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the great American metaphor, the search for gold, it is part of the

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National identity, and I felt they were determined to stay in the

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shadows and make it a broken and is. Yes, there is a great story about

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gold fever but they are not interested in that. They are

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interested in the first ten minutes of the Wolf of Wall Street, which

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was electric and Matthew McConaughey almost walked away with it. They are

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literally thinking in terms of numbers, people like that for ten

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minutes, how much would they like it two hours? Like they will like 200

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times, they they are not mathematicians. This film has

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nothing like the human interest. It does not have the wit or steel to be

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a proper satire or the humanity and warm and genuine humour to be a

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human interest drama. There is no bromance, Edgar Ramirez is just

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phoning it in. I would not want a bromance with him. What about Bryce

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Dallas Howard? Underwritten, she comes in at the start and Matthew

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McConaughey explains mining and drilling with the metaphor of a

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handbag like she is a pigeon and we are pigeons who do not understand

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it! He establishes his own mastery of the situation. The treasure of

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Madre rate is terrifying because it seems that all Stephen Gaghan has

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seen is Martin Scorsese films, but it is the one you see down the

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market where they have misspelt his name, it is a pound shop version!

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That is brutal! Stick that on the poster! Really? And the central

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character, one of the problems is that we are supposed to like him.

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Exactly, it wants its cake and eat it and it wants to portray Matthew

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McConaughey as an entrepreneur who carries out this huge fraud but he

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is the victim as well, so it wants to give him the glamour and appeal

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of a Jordan Bell for a figure and make him a nice guy, so it really

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tries to play both sides. At times, you almost smell him, there is a

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cloud of overflowing ashtrays and cheap cologne and Scotch but the

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actor is a terrible person and the movie should be about that and that

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is what Wolf of Wall Street is about. I expected that and it never

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came. No, it never did. All right. Also out this week,

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director Jeff Nichols' civil rights love story,

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Loving. Ruth Negga and Joel Edgerton star

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as Mildred and Richard Loving, an interracial couple

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who were threatened with prison in Fifties Virginia when they dared

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to marry and fall in love. Like it? I'm going to build you a

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house right here, our house. Would you marry me? This is a film about

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Richard and Mildred Loving, married in 1958 in Virginia, he was white

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and she was black, that was against the law.

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The police broke into their home in the middle of the night. The rest of

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them. And they were exiled from the home for 25 years.

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It is one of the most sincere love stories I have ever witnessed.

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I can take care of you. I know that. I can take care of you. We wanted a

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film that represented these people as we interpreted them. A political,

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very quiet. Sometimes, words do often get in the way. What intrigues

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me about human beings is often what we don't say. It is an amazing

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opportunity to talk about race and marriage equality but at the end of

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the day, we are really just talking about two people that loved each

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other. Is there anything you'd like me to

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say to the Supreme Court justices of the United States?

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No. Tell the judge I love my wife. Richard Loving being a white person

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and Mildred being a coloured person did unlawfully cohabitate as husband

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and wife! Are you nervous?

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I suppose. I think that we must recognise that everybody's story

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needs to be told. I think it's all right. This is not

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African American history, this is American history. And these are

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American stories, I would argue more than that, these are universal

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stories. Do you realise this case could alter

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the constitution of the United States?

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Do you think you will lose? We may lose the small battles, but we will

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win the big war. Peter, Loving, this is prejudice as

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corrosive rather than explosive. It is very understated. Very tense and

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beautiful. I agree, I think Ruth Negga is the beating heart of this

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film, she is absolutely brilliant, she is calm and gentle and

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incredibly intelligent in the way she understates every scene and

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every line reading and she creates this incredible aura around herself.

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If I could give her the Best actress Oscar right now, I would do, I would

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put it in the post to her right now. She is absolutely brilliant. What

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you think our chances with stiff competition? She should get the shot

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went boat and Natalie Portman gets it for Jackie. But I think Ruth

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Negga should get it, she is absolutely brilliant. I think she is

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slightly better than the film. This is a lovely film, but I think the

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scenes of the Supreme Court and the legalistic scenes toward the end,

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they are a little bit too deep and maybe there is something a little

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constrained and oversensitive about the way Jeff Nichols dramatises

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their intimacy. And I think maybe we could have seen more of their

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passion in a way. But I don't want to sound like I am bad-mouthing this

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film because Ruth Negga is so wonderful. Danny, I loved this film

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and what I liked was that in civil rights movies, there had been so

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many fantastic ones and there are these scenes of great oratory and

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excreting drama -- extreme drama and people overcoming it, but these

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people are not that. They are not especially political or great

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orators, they cannot stand in court and have their say, they are just

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living their lives but they make a huge difference. Absolutely right,

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there has been a decision not to make it to the stirring and rousing

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civil rights movie and even at home, they do not talk to each other very

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much. I agree with Peter, it does not always work but when it does, it

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works beautifully. You see characters who are not saying they

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love each other the whole time coming you just see it the way they

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are, physically the way they are with each other. So when America

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turns on them, you realise, of course they are a couple, we have

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seen them. It is not a question of telling each other, it is a question

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of being a couple. It seems monstrous when the night police

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burst in the darkness and they are in a cell block. Loving feel

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slightly different talking about it now than it did when it was first

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made in 2011 and even when it started screening last year. Now you

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see those scenes in 1958 which seem like something America some should

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have moved out from and there is a President in the White House who

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thinks this is buzzing the storage and a stroll down memory lane. So

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the film feels much less comfortable. There is a disconnect

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and it makes it more urgent. Director Jeff Nichols is very

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eclectic. Midnight Special. Shelter. How does this fit with his work? It

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is interesting, it meshes with the calm and ambient nature of his

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film-making. His gift for magic and got atmosphere and calm and

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gentle... Not doing anything dramatic. In Midnight Special,

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eading you something weird and occult was going to happen. Take

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shelter as well. It is different now, what is looming over the

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horizon is a racist, horrible event which is not just a question of bad

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and bigoted good old boys at the law of the lands, it is entrenched

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within the law of the land and that is the important part of the film.

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The law enacted by 10,000 strutting... Yes.

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Next is actress Alice Lowe's directorial feature debut,

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Prevenge - a tale of a heavily pregnant woman who shuns

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NCT and pre-natal yoga in favour of murder,

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I'm really sorry about your loss, I know it must be very difficult for

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you. At the end of the day, you've got this force of nature now inside

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you. Baby knows what to do. Baby will tell you what to do. It's just

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nature's way. I think nature is a bit of an ask,

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don't you? Prevenge is a pregnancy revenge

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killer, it is a very dark comedy about a pregnant woman, Ruth, who

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takes revenge upon society. I am a working mother.

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I did it when I was seven under half months pregnant. Children these days

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are really spoiled. Money, I want a PlayStation, money, I want you to

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kill Batman. I guess I felt that it was quite an alienating experience,

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well I was supposed to be a different person because you're

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having a baby -- I want you to kill that man. I'm scared of her. I

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thought, if I did a pregnant character, it must be the opposite

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to any assumptions you have about a pregnant person. Why are you telling

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me that? So you know that you have no control over your mind or your

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body any more. This one does. I really want the film to show the

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powerful sensory experience of being pregnant and the weird hormones

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going through you. You have dreams. Listen to the sound of my voice.

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Things seemed really brightly coloured at times, I had a powerful

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sense of smell. It was like being a werewolf. You wouldn't believe what

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I've been doing. I wanted to put that into the film, there are lots

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of close-ups and intense sound design. Sort of replicating the

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experience of being pregnant. Negativity's not good for the baby's

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spirit. You think? What are you doing? Fucking hell!

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I mean, who doesn't want to see a heavily pregnant woman having a

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knife fight with the Queen of the Ironborn from Game of Thrones? I've

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been waiting for this film. It sounds bad to say is less funny than

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I expected but it is a compliment. It is dark. This isn't that kind of

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comedy horror, with some slapstick zombies, there's something very

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disturbing going on. She's made a fine horror movie. It is a film

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about obsession and your body being taken over. Peter and I will explain

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the pregnancy! Shaping, out -- shaving, ouch. It is like Henry,

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portrait of a serial killer. It is like Alien, waiting for the birth

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scene, something malevolent and violent because that is what

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pregnancy is, it shatters the hushed tones of hypocrisy around pregnancy

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and you realise it is a horribly transgressive event and this film

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pays a condiment to that truth. It's really powerful and very authentic,

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it feels like a video diary dictated by Alice Lowe's id. I want to know

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what you think about it because from the outside, it seems more of a

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primal experience than it already did. Thinking back to my time in NCT

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classes with ladies talking about water retention, it feels different,

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but you have gone through this. I mean, you know, we all have our off

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days, I don't think many people go on a killing spree! It is stressful.

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I love the film and I love the quirkiness of it, the fact that it

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is telling a different story about pregnancy, albeit a very gory and

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violent one. Alice described it as art is an old pot -- artisinal pot.

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She wrote it in two weeks and filmed it in 11 days when she was seven

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months pregnant. Yet, I'm impressed by that. It was very cheap, it must

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have cost the same as Matthew McConaughey's bald wig. She must

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have filmed it with hidden cameras, it feels so real. It doesn't stand

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up logically. It is dreamlike, woozy. She has a great way, she's

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great in front of the camera and also behind it. She whips up quite a

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troubling mood. I've been having sleepless nights. As it stayed with

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you? Absolutely not. Ten hours a night! Like a log. She captures that

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kind of English Grotte. That almost smell, the pet shop smell, like

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particulate coming off the screen. What about the boring is? -- the

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gore level? I feel like she put a finger in my ear and is having a

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waggle. This is one of those subjects where the is to the point,

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it is one of those experiences where you experience serious horribleness.

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-- goriness. We are brave soldiers! Haven't you done well?

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And Prevenge is out in cinemas next Friday.

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Now, earlier this week, film lost one of its most eclectic

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and original actors, Sir John Hurt.

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In a career spanning over 60 years, he worked on everything

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from Hollywood blockbusters like Alien and Harry Potter

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to smaller, artier projects such as David Lynch's second film,

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There is something that I've been meaning to ask you for some time

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now. What's that? Can you cure me? No. No, we... We can care for you

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but we can't cure you. No. I thought not. Oh, man. What are your

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favourite performances? I wish you hadn't played that scene, it is not

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a sentimental film but it is also a film, there are line readings that

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just met you, that gets me every time. Something so spend about John

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Hurt and so human. Elephant Man is the perfect role but you can go

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through his whole career. Jackie, a lovely parting note for him, he's

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very good in that. He was a one-off, which performance stood out for you?

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I would say Scandal, about the Profumo affair of the 1960s which

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had Ian McKellen as Profumo. John Hurt played Stephen Ward, the

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osteopath. He was brilliant. He was a strong and weak character, he was

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defiant and transgressive, he wanted pleasure and challenged hypocrisy

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and yet he was fatally in all of the establishment. A brilliant and

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detailed performance. Absolutely wonderful. We have some of your

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tweets here that you been sending in. Jack says it is hard to choose

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but he was great in Little Malcolm And His Struggle Against The

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Eunuchs. Another says that they loved John Hurt in ten Rillington

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Place and in An Enlistment In New York. Another says that they loved

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him in 1984, playing Winston. I wonder if anybody has been watching

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that this week! Now, a two-hour-42-minute long

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German comedy may not sound like it would make

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many movie posters. Nominated for an Oscar last week,

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Toni Erdmann is the story of a father trying to reconnect

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with his daughter, I know, it's really busy and the

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moment. We were fighting over who had the most horrible weekend. I

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probably had the worst one, my father, without any warning... I am

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Toni, Toni Erdmann. I am Ambassador Toni Erdmann and

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this is my secretary. I have to arrest you. I'm sorry, my

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father made a stupid joke. All right, then. Peter, starting

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with you, three hours of laugh a minute 's German comedy. It is two

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hours 40 minutes. I thought this was a brilliant film, very emotionally

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touching, I love the father daughter story but I wasn't rolling in the

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aisles. It is a tragedy really, the tragic moment, the two tragic

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moments in your life, when you are growing up and you realise your dad

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isn't funny any more. The jokes that had you rolling in the aisles when

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you were ten years old and then you become a teenager and you think,

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stop it, stop trying to control me with jokes and it gets worse in your

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20s. It happens again when you are a parent and your kid says that you

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aren't funny any more. It is a film about someone trying in a very

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misjudged way to use jokes, not genuine humour, but stupid jokes to

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break through to your daughter. Going into the wigs and the teeth.

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It is not funny and it is tragically ambiguous because you think, is this

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a nice thing to do, or is it just abuse, passive aggressive control?

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We should say that there is no umpah music. Practical jokes are central

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to it because if anyone has known a practical joker, there is a strange

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pathology. There is a savagery to the film, you keep expecting them to

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have this kind of gooey reunion. There is something quite brutal

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about it. It reminds me of 70s British sitcoms like Fawlty Towers

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where Basil and Sybil hated each other, there wasn't this reservoir

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of affection. This taps into that. That's why we love those shows. Does

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the same apply? It reminds me of a more sentimental Hollywood movie

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like About Schmidt. It has a European hard-core sensibility, like

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Lars von Trio's The Idiots. There is a chill of fear because this guy is

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stalking her. He wouldn't dream of doing it to his son, if he was in

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that situation, undermining his professional standing but there is

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something gendered about it. She has to deal with her colleagues a lot as

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well. By a female director, Marian Ardagh -- Maren Ade. People talk

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about the length of it but it's interesting I don't think it would

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be half the film it is if it wasn't as long. It is madly long, it is

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like a Met fix -- Netflix series, it is like she couldn't bear to throw

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away any of the scenes they did. It wouldn't have the flavour without

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the vast reach. It is like a huge epic. Last 30 minutes is so

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unhinged, you need a couple of hours to work up to it.

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OK, so an interracial love story, a pregnant serial killer,

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Matthew McConaughey and a German comedy.

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Toni Erdmann. Toni. Fantastic. Prevenge for me.

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This time next week, the wonderful Clara Amfo

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will be sitting right here, on this very sofa.

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But I'll leave you with an exclusive look at "Mad to be Normal",

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which gets its World Premiere at the Glasgow Film Festival

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David Tennant stars as radical Scottish psychiatrist RD Laing,

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who set up a medication-free community for psychiatric patients

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Good night. I'm told that at your mental institution you advocate

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treatment for schizophrenics without any medication. It isn't a mental

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institution, it is a household of people with different states of

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mind, living together as people. Never taken drugs. LST sends you

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mad. We are friends, right? We look out for each other. What's the

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matter? It is people that nobody else gives a Funk about. -- fuck

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about. I've seen what families do to each other, I'm not putting my

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children through that. A coward walks away. A brave man walks away.

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Ooh! Drop it! It's not a prison, it's a

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hospital, it is a, not a punishment. Your name is Toby.

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Argh! You brought this upon yourself.

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No, you brought it on my family!

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