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Hello there, this is Film 2017, and I'm Lauren Laverne.
It's probably well past everyone's bedtime,
but we're live and - crucially - awake,
Tonight, we're celebrating the career of Sir John Hurt,
Drop us a tweet and tell us - what's your favourite Hurt
All that glitters. We've got a gold mine. Matthew McConaughey stars in
adventure romp Gold. What a goddamn ride! Would you marry
me? Ruth Negga stars in race drama Loving.
And bless, she is killing for two, murder and motherhood combined for
Alice Lowe in pregnancy slasher flick Alice Lowe.
I'm gonna cut you. Plus, we'll be looking
at German vater und daughter With me to talk all things
movie-related are critics Gentleman, hello. Hello. Hello. As
the opening hello awkward question, what is your cinema snack of choice?
Harrow Borough at all times. I would bring a large fruits direct -- fruit
salad and help myself. How classy! Kicking off the show tonight
is adventure drama Gold, starring a fat, balding
Matthew McConaughey as Kenny Wells - a money man on-the-make,
who misguidedly goes in search of gold and fortune
in the jungles of Indonesia. I had a dream. It was like I was
being called. It was a gold calling. It was a gold calling.
It was 1988, gold calling. It was 1988, I lost my house. I lost
everything. Most people would have been dead, but I'm here. We've got
our gold mine! We got a gold mine! Yes!
Do you believe you're sitting on a larger scald find of the decade? We
are talking over $30 billion. How does it feel to be a rock star?
There is no way I could possibly describe the feeling. Amazing how a
little gold can just change everything. It almost seems too good
to be true. It usually is! Better or worse, the right had begun
and what a goddamn ride! What happened at the meeting? You
want to talk about the truth? FBI! $17 million disappeared
overnight. I'm not in a die! -- I am touching a
tiger. Not even a metaphor, he was touching a tiger.
Seven years since the last film of Stephen Gaghan, have we missed him?
His last film was really good, I am not sure about Gold, it is all about
Matthew McConaughey, I have never seen anybody so childishly excited
about this paunch and this boldness, I think he thinks that his acting
and it becomes a test of strength. How much of his twinkly Hollywood
charisma can withstand the indignity of sitting in his Y fronts? He has
done big transformations before, Dallas Buyers Club, very thin in
that movie and a wonderful film. I liked him in that. He is
insufferable in this. He is absolutely unbearable. His self love
pulses radioactively from the screen, it is just unbearable! He is
so high risk, he is a big gun and he goes off with a loud bang! Sometimes
he is a loose cannon. He needs a tight script and a close directorial
hand, he gets neither here and the film itself is such a Turkey, it is
stodgy and shapeless and rubbish. It was the makings of a great story,
the great American metaphor, the search for gold, it is part of the
National identity, and I felt they were determined to stay in the
shadows and make it a broken and is. Yes, there is a great story about
gold fever but they are not interested in that. They are
interested in the first ten minutes of the Wolf of Wall Street, which
was electric and Matthew McConaughey almost walked away with it. They are
literally thinking in terms of numbers, people like that for ten
minutes, how much would they like it two hours? Like they will like 200
times, they they are not mathematicians. This film has
nothing like the human interest. It does not have the wit or steel to be
a proper satire or the humanity and warm and genuine humour to be a
human interest drama. There is no bromance, Edgar Ramirez is just
phoning it in. I would not want a bromance with him. What about Bryce
Dallas Howard? Underwritten, she comes in at the start and Matthew
McConaughey explains mining and drilling with the metaphor of a
handbag like she is a pigeon and we are pigeons who do not understand
it! He establishes his own mastery of the situation. The treasure of
Madre rate is terrifying because it seems that all Stephen Gaghan has
seen is Martin Scorsese films, but it is the one you see down the
market where they have misspelt his name, it is a pound shop version!
That is brutal! Stick that on the poster! Really? And the central
character, one of the problems is that we are supposed to like him.
Exactly, it wants its cake and eat it and it wants to portray Matthew
McConaughey as an entrepreneur who carries out this huge fraud but he
is the victim as well, so it wants to give him the glamour and appeal
of a Jordan Bell for a figure and make him a nice guy, so it really
tries to play both sides. At times, you almost smell him, there is a
cloud of overflowing ashtrays and cheap cologne and Scotch but the
actor is a terrible person and the movie should be about that and that
is what Wolf of Wall Street is about. I expected that and it never
came. No, it never did. All right. Also out this week,
director Jeff Nichols' civil rights love story,
Loving. Ruth Negga and Joel Edgerton star
as Mildred and Richard Loving, an interracial couple
who were threatened with prison in Fifties Virginia when they dared
to marry and fall in love. Like it? I'm going to build you a
house right here, our house. Would you marry me? This is a film about
Richard and Mildred Loving, married in 1958 in Virginia, he was white
and she was black, that was against the law.
The police broke into their home in the middle of the night. The rest of
them. And they were exiled from the home for 25 years.
It is one of the most sincere love stories I have ever witnessed.
I can take care of you. I know that. I can take care of you. We wanted a
film that represented these people as we interpreted them. A political,
very quiet. Sometimes, words do often get in the way. What intrigues
me about human beings is often what we don't say. It is an amazing
opportunity to talk about race and marriage equality but at the end of
the day, we are really just talking about two people that loved each
other. Is there anything you'd like me to
say to the Supreme Court justices of the United States?
No. Tell the judge I love my wife. Richard Loving being a white person
and Mildred being a coloured person did unlawfully cohabitate as husband
and wife! Are you nervous?
I suppose. I think that we must recognise that everybody's story
needs to be told. I think it's all right. This is not
African American history, this is American history. And these are
American stories, I would argue more than that, these are universal
stories. Do you realise this case could alter
the constitution of the United States?
Do you think you will lose? We may lose the small battles, but we will
win the big war. Peter, Loving, this is prejudice as
corrosive rather than explosive. It is very understated. Very tense and
beautiful. I agree, I think Ruth Negga is the beating heart of this
film, she is absolutely brilliant, she is calm and gentle and
incredibly intelligent in the way she understates every scene and
every line reading and she creates this incredible aura around herself.
If I could give her the Best actress Oscar right now, I would do, I would
put it in the post to her right now. She is absolutely brilliant. What
you think our chances with stiff competition? She should get the shot
went boat and Natalie Portman gets it for Jackie. But I think Ruth
Negga should get it, she is absolutely brilliant. I think she is
slightly better than the film. This is a lovely film, but I think the
scenes of the Supreme Court and the legalistic scenes toward the end,
they are a little bit too deep and maybe there is something a little
constrained and oversensitive about the way Jeff Nichols dramatises
their intimacy. And I think maybe we could have seen more of their
passion in a way. But I don't want to sound like I am bad-mouthing this
film because Ruth Negga is so wonderful. Danny, I loved this film
and what I liked was that in civil rights movies, there had been so
many fantastic ones and there are these scenes of great oratory and
excreting drama -- extreme drama and people overcoming it, but these
people are not that. They are not especially political or great
orators, they cannot stand in court and have their say, they are just
living their lives but they make a huge difference. Absolutely right,
there has been a decision not to make it to the stirring and rousing
civil rights movie and even at home, they do not talk to each other very
much. I agree with Peter, it does not always work but when it does, it
works beautifully. You see characters who are not saying they
love each other the whole time coming you just see it the way they
are, physically the way they are with each other. So when America
turns on them, you realise, of course they are a couple, we have
seen them. It is not a question of telling each other, it is a question
of being a couple. It seems monstrous when the night police
burst in the darkness and they are in a cell block. Loving feel
slightly different talking about it now than it did when it was first
made in 2011 and even when it started screening last year. Now you
see those scenes in 1958 which seem like something America some should
have moved out from and there is a President in the White House who
thinks this is buzzing the storage and a stroll down memory lane. So
the film feels much less comfortable. There is a disconnect
and it makes it more urgent. Director Jeff Nichols is very
eclectic. Midnight Special. Shelter. How does this fit with his work? It
is interesting, it meshes with the calm and ambient nature of his
film-making. His gift for magic and got atmosphere and calm and
gentle... Not doing anything dramatic. In Midnight Special,
eading you something weird and occult was going to happen. Take
shelter as well. It is different now, what is looming over the
horizon is a racist, horrible event which is not just a question of bad
and bigoted good old boys at the law of the lands, it is entrenched
within the law of the land and that is the important part of the film.
The law enacted by 10,000 strutting... Yes.
Next is actress Alice Lowe's directorial feature debut,
Prevenge - a tale of a heavily pregnant woman who shuns
NCT and pre-natal yoga in favour of murder,
I'm really sorry about your loss, I know it must be very difficult for
you. At the end of the day, you've got this force of nature now inside
you. Baby knows what to do. Baby will tell you what to do. It's just
nature's way. I think nature is a bit of an ask,
don't you? Prevenge is a pregnancy revenge
killer, it is a very dark comedy about a pregnant woman, Ruth, who
takes revenge upon society. I am a working mother.
I did it when I was seven under half months pregnant. Children these days
are really spoiled. Money, I want a PlayStation, money, I want you to
kill Batman. I guess I felt that it was quite an alienating experience,
well I was supposed to be a different person because you're
having a baby -- I want you to kill that man. I'm scared of her. I
thought, if I did a pregnant character, it must be the opposite
to any assumptions you have about a pregnant person. Why are you telling
me that? So you know that you have no control over your mind or your
body any more. This one does. I really want the film to show the
powerful sensory experience of being pregnant and the weird hormones
going through you. You have dreams. Listen to the sound of my voice.
Things seemed really brightly coloured at times, I had a powerful
sense of smell. It was like being a werewolf. You wouldn't believe what
I've been doing. I wanted to put that into the film, there are lots
of close-ups and intense sound design. Sort of replicating the
experience of being pregnant. Negativity's not good for the baby's
spirit. You think? What are you doing? Fucking hell!
I mean, who doesn't want to see a heavily pregnant woman having a
knife fight with the Queen of the Ironborn from Game of Thrones? I've
been waiting for this film. It sounds bad to say is less funny than
I expected but it is a compliment. It is dark. This isn't that kind of
comedy horror, with some slapstick zombies, there's something very
disturbing going on. She's made a fine horror movie. It is a film
about obsession and your body being taken over. Peter and I will explain
the pregnancy! Shaping, out -- shaving, ouch. It is like Henry,
portrait of a serial killer. It is like Alien, waiting for the birth
scene, something malevolent and violent because that is what
pregnancy is, it shatters the hushed tones of hypocrisy around pregnancy
and you realise it is a horribly transgressive event and this film
pays a condiment to that truth. It's really powerful and very authentic,
it feels like a video diary dictated by Alice Lowe's id. I want to know
what you think about it because from the outside, it seems more of a
primal experience than it already did. Thinking back to my time in NCT
classes with ladies talking about water retention, it feels different,
but you have gone through this. I mean, you know, we all have our off
days, I don't think many people go on a killing spree! It is stressful.
I love the film and I love the quirkiness of it, the fact that it
is telling a different story about pregnancy, albeit a very gory and
violent one. Alice described it as art is an old pot -- artisinal pot.
She wrote it in two weeks and filmed it in 11 days when she was seven
months pregnant. Yet, I'm impressed by that. It was very cheap, it must
have cost the same as Matthew McConaughey's bald wig. She must
have filmed it with hidden cameras, it feels so real. It doesn't stand
up logically. It is dreamlike, woozy. She has a great way, she's
great in front of the camera and also behind it. She whips up quite a
troubling mood. I've been having sleepless nights. As it stayed with
you? Absolutely not. Ten hours a night! Like a log. She captures that
kind of English Grotte. That almost smell, the pet shop smell, like
particulate coming off the screen. What about the boring is? -- the
gore level? I feel like she put a finger in my ear and is having a
waggle. This is one of those subjects where the is to the point,
it is one of those experiences where you experience serious horribleness.
-- goriness. We are brave soldiers! Haven't you done well?
And Prevenge is out in cinemas next Friday.
Now, earlier this week, film lost one of its most eclectic
and original actors, Sir John Hurt.
In a career spanning over 60 years, he worked on everything
from Hollywood blockbusters like Alien and Harry Potter
to smaller, artier projects such as David Lynch's second film,
There is something that I've been meaning to ask you for some time
now. What's that? Can you cure me? No. No, we... We can care for you
but we can't cure you. No. I thought not. Oh, man. What are your
favourite performances? I wish you hadn't played that scene, it is not
a sentimental film but it is also a film, there are line readings that
just met you, that gets me every time. Something so spend about John
Hurt and so human. Elephant Man is the perfect role but you can go
through his whole career. Jackie, a lovely parting note for him, he's
very good in that. He was a one-off, which performance stood out for you?
I would say Scandal, about the Profumo affair of the 1960s which
had Ian McKellen as Profumo. John Hurt played Stephen Ward, the
osteopath. He was brilliant. He was a strong and weak character, he was
defiant and transgressive, he wanted pleasure and challenged hypocrisy
and yet he was fatally in all of the establishment. A brilliant and
detailed performance. Absolutely wonderful. We have some of your
tweets here that you been sending in. Jack says it is hard to choose
but he was great in Little Malcolm And His Struggle Against The
Eunuchs. Another says that they loved John Hurt in ten Rillington
Place and in An Enlistment In New York. Another says that they loved
him in 1984, playing Winston. I wonder if anybody has been watching
that this week! Now, a two-hour-42-minute long
German comedy may not sound like it would make
many movie posters. Nominated for an Oscar last week,
Toni Erdmann is the story of a father trying to reconnect
with his daughter, I know, it's really busy and the
moment. We were fighting over who had the most horrible weekend. I
probably had the worst one, my father, without any warning... I am
Toni, Toni Erdmann. I am Ambassador Toni Erdmann and
this is my secretary. I have to arrest you. I'm sorry, my
father made a stupid joke. All right, then. Peter, starting
with you, three hours of laugh a minute 's German comedy. It is two
hours 40 minutes. I thought this was a brilliant film, very emotionally
touching, I love the father daughter story but I wasn't rolling in the
aisles. It is a tragedy really, the tragic moment, the two tragic
moments in your life, when you are growing up and you realise your dad
isn't funny any more. The jokes that had you rolling in the aisles when
you were ten years old and then you become a teenager and you think,
stop it, stop trying to control me with jokes and it gets worse in your
20s. It happens again when you are a parent and your kid says that you
aren't funny any more. It is a film about someone trying in a very
misjudged way to use jokes, not genuine humour, but stupid jokes to
break through to your daughter. Going into the wigs and the teeth.
It is not funny and it is tragically ambiguous because you think, is this
a nice thing to do, or is it just abuse, passive aggressive control?
We should say that there is no umpah music. Practical jokes are central
to it because if anyone has known a practical joker, there is a strange
pathology. There is a savagery to the film, you keep expecting them to
have this kind of gooey reunion. There is something quite brutal
about it. It reminds me of 70s British sitcoms like Fawlty Towers
where Basil and Sybil hated each other, there wasn't this reservoir
of affection. This taps into that. That's why we love those shows. Does
the same apply? It reminds me of a more sentimental Hollywood movie
like About Schmidt. It has a European hard-core sensibility, like
Lars von Trio's The Idiots. There is a chill of fear because this guy is
stalking her. He wouldn't dream of doing it to his son, if he was in
that situation, undermining his professional standing but there is
something gendered about it. She has to deal with her colleagues a lot as
well. By a female director, Marian Ardagh -- Maren Ade. People talk
about the length of it but it's interesting I don't think it would
be half the film it is if it wasn't as long. It is madly long, it is
like a Met fix -- Netflix series, it is like she couldn't bear to throw
away any of the scenes they did. It wouldn't have the flavour without
the vast reach. It is like a huge epic. Last 30 minutes is so
unhinged, you need a couple of hours to work up to it.
OK, so an interracial love story, a pregnant serial killer,
Matthew McConaughey and a German comedy.
Toni Erdmann. Toni. Fantastic. Prevenge for me.
This time next week, the wonderful Clara Amfo
will be sitting right here, on this very sofa.
But I'll leave you with an exclusive look at "Mad to be Normal",
which gets its World Premiere at the Glasgow Film Festival
David Tennant stars as radical Scottish psychiatrist RD Laing,
who set up a medication-free community for psychiatric patients
Good night. I'm told that at your mental institution you advocate
treatment for schizophrenics without any medication. It isn't a mental
institution, it is a household of people with different states of
mind, living together as people. Never taken drugs. LST sends you
mad. We are friends, right? We look out for each other. What's the
matter? It is people that nobody else gives a Funk about. -- fuck
about. I've seen what families do to each other, I'm not putting my
children through that. A coward walks away. A brave man walks away.
Ooh! Drop it! It's not a prison, it's a
hospital, it is a, not a punishment. Your name is Toby.
Argh! You brought this upon yourself.
No, you brought it on my family!