Loving, Gold Film 2017

This programme contains some strong language.

Hello there, this is Film 2017, and I'm Lauren Laverne.

It's probably well past everyone's bedtime,

but we're live and - crucially - awake,

Tonight, we're celebrating the career of Sir John Hurt,

Drop us a tweet and tell us - what's your favourite Hurt

All that glitters. We've got a gold mine. Matthew McConaughey stars in

adventure romp Gold. What a goddamn ride! Would you marry

me? Ruth Negga stars in race drama Loving.

And bless, she is killing for two, murder and motherhood combined for

Alice Lowe in pregnancy slasher flick Alice Lowe.

I'm gonna cut you. Plus, we'll be looking

at German vater und daughter With me to talk all things

movie-related are critics Gentleman, hello. Hello. Hello. As

the opening hello awkward question, what is your cinema snack of choice?

Harrow Borough at all times. I would bring a large fruits direct -- fruit

salad and help myself. How classy! Kicking off the show tonight

is adventure drama Gold, starring a fat, balding

Matthew McConaughey as Kenny Wells - a money man on-the-make,

who misguidedly goes in search of gold and fortune

in the jungles of Indonesia. I had a dream. It was like I was

being called. It was a gold calling. It was a gold calling.

It was 1988, gold calling. It was 1988, I lost my house. I lost

everything. Most people would have been dead, but I'm here. We've got

our gold mine! We got a gold mine! Yes!

Do you believe you're sitting on a larger scald find of the decade? We

are talking over $30 billion. How does it feel to be a rock star?

There is no way I could possibly describe the feeling. Amazing how a

little gold can just change everything. It almost seems too good

to be true. It usually is! Better or worse, the right had begun

and what a goddamn ride! What happened at the meeting? You

want to talk about the truth? FBI! $17 million disappeared

overnight. I'm not in a die! -- I am touching a

tiger. Not even a metaphor, he was touching a tiger.

Seven years since the last film of Stephen Gaghan, have we missed him?

His last film was really good, I am not sure about Gold, it is all about

Matthew McConaughey, I have never seen anybody so childishly excited

about this paunch and this boldness, I think he thinks that his acting

and it becomes a test of strength. How much of his twinkly Hollywood

charisma can withstand the indignity of sitting in his Y fronts? He has

done big transformations before, Dallas Buyers Club, very thin in

that movie and a wonderful film. I liked him in that. He is

insufferable in this. He is absolutely unbearable. His self love

pulses radioactively from the screen, it is just unbearable! He is

so high risk, he is a big gun and he goes off with a loud bang! Sometimes

he is a loose cannon. He needs a tight script and a close directorial

hand, he gets neither here and the film itself is such a Turkey, it is

stodgy and shapeless and rubbish. It was the makings of a great story,

the great American metaphor, the search for gold, it is part of the

National identity, and I felt they were determined to stay in the

shadows and make it a broken and is. Yes, there is a great story about

gold fever but they are not interested in that. They are

interested in the first ten minutes of the Wolf of Wall Street, which

was electric and Matthew McConaughey almost walked away with it. They are

literally thinking in terms of numbers, people like that for ten

minutes, how much would they like it two hours? Like they will like 200

times, they they are not mathematicians. This film has

nothing like the human interest. It does not have the wit or steel to be

a proper satire or the humanity and warm and genuine humour to be a

human interest drama. There is no bromance, Edgar Ramirez is just

phoning it in. I would not want a bromance with him. What about Bryce

Dallas Howard? Underwritten, she comes in at the start and Matthew

McConaughey explains mining and drilling with the metaphor of a

handbag like she is a pigeon and we are pigeons who do not understand

it! He establishes his own mastery of the situation. The treasure of

Madre rate is terrifying because it seems that all Stephen Gaghan has

seen is Martin Scorsese films, but it is the one you see down the

market where they have misspelt his name, it is a pound shop version!

That is brutal! Stick that on the poster! Really? And the central

character, one of the problems is that we are supposed to like him.

Exactly, it wants its cake and eat it and it wants to portray Matthew

McConaughey as an entrepreneur who carries out this huge fraud but he

is the victim as well, so it wants to give him the glamour and appeal

of a Jordan Bell for a figure and make him a nice guy, so it really

tries to play both sides. At times, you almost smell him, there is a

cloud of overflowing ashtrays and cheap cologne and Scotch but the

actor is a terrible person and the movie should be about that and that

is what Wolf of Wall Street is about. I expected that and it never

came. No, it never did. All right. Also out this week,

director Jeff Nichols' civil rights love story,

Loving. Ruth Negga and Joel Edgerton star

as Mildred and Richard Loving, an interracial couple

who were threatened with prison in Fifties Virginia when they dared

to marry and fall in love. Like it? I'm going to build you a

house right here, our house. Would you marry me? This is a film about

Richard and Mildred Loving, married in 1958 in Virginia, he was white

and she was black, that was against the law.

The police broke into their home in the middle of the night. The rest of

them. And they were exiled from the home for 25 years.

It is one of the most sincere love stories I have ever witnessed.

I can take care of you. I know that. I can take care of you. We wanted a

film that represented these people as we interpreted them. A political,

very quiet. Sometimes, words do often get in the way. What intrigues

me about human beings is often what we don't say. It is an amazing

opportunity to talk about race and marriage equality but at the end of

the day, we are really just talking about two people that loved each

other. Is there anything you'd like me to

say to the Supreme Court justices of the United States?

No. Tell the judge I love my wife. Richard Loving being a white person

and Mildred being a coloured person did unlawfully cohabitate as husband

and wife! Are you nervous?

I suppose. I think that we must recognise that everybody's story

needs to be told. I think it's all right. This is not

African American history, this is American history. And these are

American stories, I would argue more than that, these are universal

stories. Do you realise this case could alter

the constitution of the United States?

Do you think you will lose? We may lose the small battles, but we will

win the big war. Peter, Loving, this is prejudice as

corrosive rather than explosive. It is very understated. Very tense and

beautiful. I agree, I think Ruth Negga is the beating heart of this

film, she is absolutely brilliant, she is calm and gentle and

incredibly intelligent in the way she understates every scene and

every line reading and she creates this incredible aura around herself.

If I could give her the Best actress Oscar right now, I would do, I would

put it in the post to her right now. She is absolutely brilliant. What

you think our chances with stiff competition? She should get the shot

went boat and Natalie Portman gets it for Jackie. But I think Ruth

Negga should get it, she is absolutely brilliant. I think she is

slightly better than the film. This is a lovely film, but I think the

scenes of the Supreme Court and the legalistic scenes toward the end,

they are a little bit too deep and maybe there is something a little

constrained and oversensitive about the way Jeff Nichols dramatises

their intimacy. And I think maybe we could have seen more of their

passion in a way. But I don't want to sound like I am bad-mouthing this

film because Ruth Negga is so wonderful. Danny, I loved this film

and what I liked was that in civil rights movies, there had been so

many fantastic ones and there are these scenes of great oratory and

excreting drama -- extreme drama and people overcoming it, but these

people are not that. They are not especially political or great

orators, they cannot stand in court and have their say, they are just

living their lives but they make a huge difference. Absolutely right,

there has been a decision not to make it to the stirring and rousing

civil rights movie and even at home, they do not talk to each other very

much. I agree with Peter, it does not always work but when it does, it

works beautifully. You see characters who are not saying they

love each other the whole time coming you just see it the way they

are, physically the way they are with each other. So when America

turns on them, you realise, of course they are a couple, we have

seen them. It is not a question of telling each other, it is a question

of being a couple. It seems monstrous when the night police

burst in the darkness and they are in a cell block. Loving feel

slightly different talking about it now than it did when it was first

made in 2011 and even when it started screening last year. Now you

see those scenes in 1958 which seem like something America some should

have moved out from and there is a President in the White House who

thinks this is buzzing the storage and a stroll down memory lane. So

the film feels much less comfortable. There is a disconnect

and it makes it more urgent. Director Jeff Nichols is very

eclectic. Midnight Special. Shelter. How does this fit with his work? It

is interesting, it meshes with the calm and ambient nature of his

film-making. His gift for magic and got atmosphere and calm and

gentle... Not doing anything dramatic. In Midnight Special,

eading you something weird and occult was going to happen. Take

shelter as well. It is different now, what is looming over the

horizon is a racist, horrible event which is not just a question of bad

and bigoted good old boys at the law of the lands, it is entrenched

within the law of the land and that is the important part of the film.

The law enacted by 10,000 strutting... Yes.

Next is actress Alice Lowe's directorial feature debut,

Prevenge - a tale of a heavily pregnant woman who shuns

NCT and pre-natal yoga in favour of murder,

I'm really sorry about your loss, I know it must be very difficult for

you. At the end of the day, you've got this force of nature now inside

you. Baby knows what to do. Baby will tell you what to do. It's just

nature's way. I think nature is a bit of an ask,

don't you? Prevenge is a pregnancy revenge

killer, it is a very dark comedy about a pregnant woman, Ruth, who

takes revenge upon society. I am a working mother.

I did it when I was seven under half months pregnant. Children these days

are really spoiled. Money, I want a PlayStation, money, I want you to

kill Batman. I guess I felt that it was quite an alienating experience,

well I was supposed to be a different person because you're

having a baby -- I want you to kill that man. I'm scared of her. I

thought, if I did a pregnant character, it must be the opposite

to any assumptions you have about a pregnant person. Why are you telling

me that? So you know that you have no control over your mind or your

body any more. This one does. I really want the film to show the

powerful sensory experience of being pregnant and the weird hormones

going through you. You have dreams. Listen to the sound of my voice.

Things seemed really brightly coloured at times, I had a powerful

sense of smell. It was like being a werewolf. You wouldn't believe what

I've been doing. I wanted to put that into the film, there are lots

of close-ups and intense sound design. Sort of replicating the

experience of being pregnant. Negativity's not good for the baby's

spirit. You think? What are you doing? Fucking hell!

I mean, who doesn't want to see a heavily pregnant woman having a

knife fight with the Queen of the Ironborn from Game of Thrones? I've

been waiting for this film. It sounds bad to say is less funny than

I expected but it is a compliment. It is dark. This isn't that kind of

comedy horror, with some slapstick zombies, there's something very

disturbing going on. She's made a fine horror movie. It is a film

about obsession and your body being taken over. Peter and I will explain

the pregnancy! Shaping, out -- shaving, ouch. It is like Henry,

portrait of a serial killer. It is like Alien, waiting for the birth

scene, something malevolent and violent because that is what

pregnancy is, it shatters the hushed tones of hypocrisy around pregnancy

and you realise it is a horribly transgressive event and this film

pays a condiment to that truth. It's really powerful and very authentic,

it feels like a video diary dictated by Alice Lowe's id. I want to know

what you think about it because from the outside, it seems more of a

primal experience than it already did. Thinking back to my time in NCT

classes with ladies talking about water retention, it feels different,

but you have gone through this. I mean, you know, we all have our off

days, I don't think many people go on a killing spree! It is stressful.

I love the film and I love the quirkiness of it, the fact that it

is telling a different story about pregnancy, albeit a very gory and

violent one. Alice described it as art is an old pot -- artisinal pot.

She wrote it in two weeks and filmed it in 11 days when she was seven

months pregnant. Yet, I'm impressed by that. It was very cheap, it must

have cost the same as Matthew McConaughey's bald wig. She must

have filmed it with hidden cameras, it feels so real. It doesn't stand

up logically. It is dreamlike, woozy. She has a great way, she's

great in front of the camera and also behind it. She whips up quite a

troubling mood. I've been having sleepless nights. As it stayed with

you? Absolutely not. Ten hours a night! Like a log. She captures that

kind of English Grotte. That almost smell, the pet shop smell, like

particulate coming off the screen. What about the boring is? -- the

gore level? I feel like she put a finger in my ear and is having a

waggle. This is one of those subjects where the is to the point,

it is one of those experiences where you experience serious horribleness.

-- goriness. We are brave soldiers! Haven't you done well?

And Prevenge is out in cinemas next Friday.

Now, earlier this week, film lost one of its most eclectic

and original actors, Sir John Hurt.

In a career spanning over 60 years, he worked on everything

from Hollywood blockbusters like Alien and Harry Potter

to smaller, artier projects such as David Lynch's second film,

There is something that I've been meaning to ask you for some time

now. What's that? Can you cure me? No. No, we... We can care for you

but we can't cure you. No. I thought not. Oh, man. What are your

favourite performances? I wish you hadn't played that scene, it is not

a sentimental film but it is also a film, there are line readings that

just met you, that gets me every time. Something so spend about John

Hurt and so human. Elephant Man is the perfect role but you can go

through his whole career. Jackie, a lovely parting note for him, he's

very good in that. He was a one-off, which performance stood out for you?

I would say Scandal, about the Profumo affair of the 1960s which

had Ian McKellen as Profumo. John Hurt played Stephen Ward, the

osteopath. He was brilliant. He was a strong and weak character, he was

defiant and transgressive, he wanted pleasure and challenged hypocrisy

and yet he was fatally in all of the establishment. A brilliant and

detailed performance. Absolutely wonderful. We have some of your

tweets here that you been sending in. Jack says it is hard to choose

but he was great in Little Malcolm And His Struggle Against The

Eunuchs. Another says that they loved John Hurt in ten Rillington

Place and in An Enlistment In New York. Another says that they loved

him in 1984, playing Winston. I wonder if anybody has been watching

that this week! Now, a two-hour-42-minute long

German comedy may not sound like it would make

many movie posters. Nominated for an Oscar last week,

Toni Erdmann is the story of a father trying to reconnect

with his daughter, I know, it's really busy and the

moment. We were fighting over who had the most horrible weekend. I

probably had the worst one, my father, without any warning... I am

Toni, Toni Erdmann. I am Ambassador Toni Erdmann and

this is my secretary. I have to arrest you. I'm sorry, my

father made a stupid joke. All right, then. Peter, starting

with you, three hours of laugh a minute 's German comedy. It is two

hours 40 minutes. I thought this was a brilliant film, very emotionally

touching, I love the father daughter story but I wasn't rolling in the

aisles. It is a tragedy really, the tragic moment, the two tragic

moments in your life, when you are growing up and you realise your dad

isn't funny any more. The jokes that had you rolling in the aisles when

you were ten years old and then you become a teenager and you think,

stop it, stop trying to control me with jokes and it gets worse in your

20s. It happens again when you are a parent and your kid says that you

aren't funny any more. It is a film about someone trying in a very

misjudged way to use jokes, not genuine humour, but stupid jokes to

break through to your daughter. Going into the wigs and the teeth.

It is not funny and it is tragically ambiguous because you think, is this

a nice thing to do, or is it just abuse, passive aggressive control?

We should say that there is no umpah music. Practical jokes are central

to it because if anyone has known a practical joker, there is a strange

pathology. There is a savagery to the film, you keep expecting them to

have this kind of gooey reunion. There is something quite brutal

about it. It reminds me of 70s British sitcoms like Fawlty Towers

where Basil and Sybil hated each other, there wasn't this reservoir

of affection. This taps into that. That's why we love those shows. Does

the same apply? It reminds me of a more sentimental Hollywood movie

like About Schmidt. It has a European hard-core sensibility, like

Lars von Trio's The Idiots. There is a chill of fear because this guy is

stalking her. He wouldn't dream of doing it to his son, if he was in

that situation, undermining his professional standing but there is

something gendered about it. She has to deal with her colleagues a lot as

well. By a female director, Marian Ardagh -- Maren Ade. People talk

about the length of it but it's interesting I don't think it would

be half the film it is if it wasn't as long. It is madly long, it is

like a Met fix -- Netflix series, it is like she couldn't bear to throw

away any of the scenes they did. It wouldn't have the flavour without

the vast reach. It is like a huge epic. Last 30 minutes is so

unhinged, you need a couple of hours to work up to it.

OK, so an interracial love story, a pregnant serial killer,

Matthew McConaughey and a German comedy.

Toni Erdmann. Toni. Fantastic. Prevenge for me.

This time next week, the wonderful Clara Amfo

will be sitting right here, on this very sofa.

But I'll leave you with an exclusive look at "Mad to be Normal",

which gets its World Premiere at the Glasgow Film Festival

David Tennant stars as radical Scottish psychiatrist RD Laing,

who set up a medication-free community for psychiatric patients

Good night. I'm told that at your mental institution you advocate

treatment for schizophrenics without any medication. It isn't a mental

institution, it is a household of people with different states of

mind, living together as people. Never taken drugs. LST sends you

mad. We are friends, right? We look out for each other. What's the

matter? It is people that nobody else gives a Funk about. -- fuck

about. I've seen what families do to each other, I'm not putting my

children through that. A coward walks away. A brave man walks away.

Ooh! Drop it! It's not a prison, it's a

hospital, it is a, not a punishment. Your name is Toby.

Argh! You brought this upon yourself.

No, you brought it on my family!