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You Were Never Really Here, Mom and Dad and Susan Sarandon

Antonia Quirke, Ellen E Jones and Chris Hewitt review You Were Never Really Here, and Susan Sarandon talks about her new documentary on 1940s actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.


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Hello there, this is Film 2018,

and I'm Antonia Quirke.

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We are live, so tweet us.

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Tonight we're talking about stardom

and the golden age of Hollywood.

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Who do you think personifies

the classic Hollywood star - Gable?

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Bogart? Hepburn?

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Details on the screen, now. Coming

up tonight... Director Lynne Ramsay

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returns with the harrowing three

like You Were Never Really Here

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starring Joaquin Phoenix. One thing

we are never short of these days is

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a new Nicolas Cage movie, only this

time he is more cagey than ever in

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horror thriller Mom and Dad. And we

chat to one Hollywood legend, Susan

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Sarandon about another the Golden

age superstar Hedy Lamarr.

It isn't

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a prerequisite in Hollywood to be

smart.

Plus we take a look at

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British wrestling comedy Walk Like a

Panther. You can't say it's not an

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eclectic mix.

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I'm joined by the

brilliant Ellen E Jones

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and the ferociously well informed

Empire Magazine's top man,

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Chris Hewitt to make sense of it

all...

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Award season is over, hurray!

Yes.

Is it over? Am I hallucinating?

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Let's start the new film year with a

good one.

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First up is the new film

from unclassifiable,

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never boring British director,

Lynne Ramsay.

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Her follow up to 2011's

We Need to Talk About Kevin

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is You Were never Really Here -

an equally dark tale

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starring Joaquin Phoenix.

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He's Joe, a military veteran

teetering on the brink,

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in a role that won him

Best Actor at Cannes.

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Let's take a look...

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I'm going to ask you some questions.

How many are they?

One guy's at the

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front door. Second lie on the top

floor.

It's done.

It's a new joke

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story.

Why am I here?

Albert Votto,

his daughter has been missing the

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weekend.

He's an enforcer.

They say

you are brutal.

I can be.

Beyond

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that it's something much more. I

think it's about a man having a kind

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of midlife crisis, in a way.

Do you

have kids, John?

No.

I've heard of

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these places. If she's there, I will

get her.

It is based on a novella. I

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loved it had those elements, moved

fast and I didn't know what to

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expect. I said to John, I'm going to

do it in my own direction, do it my

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way, because I've never done that

sort of collaboration. He said, I

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just want it keeps that kind of

momentum I had. That was something I

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wanted to do.

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The heart of it was this really

interesting character. Joaquin came

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late into the frame, but when he did

he was like a member of the crew. He

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said he understood less than 50% of

what I said. There was a kind of

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exciting energy and set because so

compelling to watch another does the

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same thing twice that gives you so

many options in an edit create this

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character with many dimensions.

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He's not the knight in shining

armour, a fallible man. He's not the

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six-pack. He's kind of going to seed

and bringing all these things in to

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make him rich were really to me and

him. I grew up on Hitchcock. My mum

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and my dad were film buffs. My mum

watched classic movies all the time,

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thrillers. Yeah, who knows, I

suppose everything is a remix.

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Three... Two... One...

Close your

eyes.

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Not an easy film.

No, but a great

one. I kind of expected, because

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it's Lynne Ramsay unconventional

form but a very conventional

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thriller storyline in a way. I found

myself initially at least wanting a

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bit more detail from the plot,

wanted to know more about this guy's

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back story. It only slowly came to

me this is what Lynne Ramsay is all

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about and the scarcity of the detail

is what makes what is there so

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incredibly evocative. Jelly beans,

hammers, wallpaper... These are

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random word to people that haven't

seen the film but I know you guys

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know. What she does by depriving you

of repeated details of things that

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make things too obvious to make sure

you are right inside this guy Joe's

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head. You can't get up in the

quality of the event, you have to be

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there in his psyche.

Grimness and

transcendence are the keynotes?

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Absolutely. Joe is a guy at the end

of his tether, he's looking at more

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from life. When you meet him on his

suicidal, on the verge of ending it

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all when he wants something more. He

want something more from the

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grimness of darkness. Lynne Ramsay

is great at those bass notes. Action

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sequences in another movie, this

movie is so close on the surface to

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being taken for John Wick chapter

three, and I am for those movies, I

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love those movies but she is not

interested in that. She's looking at

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diving below the surface and finding

something new about this guy. Debbie

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had a really style speech... I don't

know who you are, I don't know what

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you want but I will find you you,

you wouldn't understand a word he

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says. It's a very different

performance, a different kind of

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quote unquote action hero in this.

Phoenix is 43 now and in the absence

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of the late great Philip Seymour

Hoffman, James Gamble Feeney and

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Daniel Day Lewis apparently now

retired, the mantle of our greatest

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screen actor is out there to be

grabbed. It might well be Phoenix

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and on this evidence it might be

him.

Certainly with Lynne Ramsay's

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helps. One of the things I love

about this film is how it reverses

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that traditional direct use gender

role, the way is the other way round

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here. He's brilliant in it. It's a

great physical performance. He has

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this saltiness which also seems

natural and vulnerable at the same

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time. You can see the flashes of the

little boy he once was. At the same

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time he has this murderous rage.

Where do you think this sits in

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Lynne Ramsay's filmography? Would

say she is someone that would resist

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the word career being applied to her

filmography. It's more a body of

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work she is going for. It strikes me

she's the man who said I won't do

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that all that but I will do that.

You never know what to expect but

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there are so many -- Lynne Ramsay

characteristics. You find everything

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you need to know about his mother in

a 42nd sequence which is absolutely

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fantastic. We should also say Jonny

Greenwood's score is so good.

So

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good. Like the last great Radiohead

album. It is a really great school.

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I think it is up there with the best

of Lynne Ramsay's work. Weirdly

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commercial and non-commercial at the

same time and she's not really

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interested in conventional action

beats. There are sequences in this

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movie that would be unconventional,

the corridor fight in Taken four or

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something but Joaquin Phoenix takes

apart a guy with a hammer, very

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brutal, but shot on CCTV cameras. I

love those little notes. She does

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want to present things to do that

you've seen before.

You might think

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you've seen before the taxi driver

element but it's bold how in

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conversation with the taxi driver

the doing something different.

To

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take on something like taxi driver

takes balls.

There is a real

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tenderness to it, the early scenes

with his mother, without those

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scenes it would be a very different

film. Real moments of beauty.

And

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can I say, as a person of a certain

guys, great to see Joaquin Phoenix

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walking the dad board.

Really worth

seeing. From a film that had a seven

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minute standing ovation to Cannes to

zombies.

What are they?

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Mom & Dad - a horror comedy

starring the one and only

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Nicolas Cage with a performance

dialled down to 11 in this tale

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of when the sacred bond of parental

love gets frayed...

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Can I go to a movie with O'Reilly

tonight? With Riley? Your

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grandparents are coming to dinner

tonight, remember.

Take my advice,

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don't ever have kids!

What's the

rush today? It's like...

What's

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going on? Is that McKenna's ma'am?

Multiple reports are coming in as

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parents owe murdering their own

children.

Listen to me, you have to

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get out of the house before ma'am

and before dad get home.

Believe it

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or not, I used to be young ones as

well and not all that long ago, by

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the way. And I think about how

things were in my day. But now, the

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world you kids are living in, the

things you see on the Internet.

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Things I only saw in magazines.

No!

And the expectations that must come

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with that.

Dad?

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Oh yeah, you put your right foot in,

you take your right foot out, you do

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the hokey Cokie...

Stop!

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Yes, mum's here.

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You're going to open this door! This

was a really great idea, honey.

I

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forgot, your parents.

That was

tonight?

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Nicholas, Nicholas. Chris, we like

to be clear on this programme. Is

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this a zombie movie or what?

It is

not a zombie movie.

In what way is

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it not?

Zombies are creatures that

are dead and rise from the grave.

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These guys, they are just infected,

just a little bit sick, a little

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under the weather. Same thing as 28

days later. Sorry, that is not a

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zombie film.

You can imagine the

animated pitch for this, to fix...

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It felt to me like a sequence, raw

action sequence after another.

There

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are absolutely moments of six fun in

this which go to the movies for. But

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yeah, the things it does well for

me, it's not a zombie film but also

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not quite anything else. Doesn't

seem to define the rules within the

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film. There is an issue with static

on the telly that seems to be

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sending the parents crazy but no one

else crazy. They're not just killing

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therein children but they seem to

want to kill everyone. I was

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confused.

A pseudo- zombie movie?

Anything with anything like this

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going on is satirising something.

I'm not sure what he was satirising.

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Satirising parenthood, suburbia? Are

the young children hopeless, useless

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consumers question at what's running

through the movie's veins?

I don't

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think much, but I enjoyed it. The

director Brian Taylor, who

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co-directed both cranks, action

classics I would bat for all day

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long. He also directed Nicolas Cage

in ghost Rider. I wouldn't bat for

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that one. Frenetic action sequences,

tries to undercut it nice and then

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-- now and then with some music.

I

like the music.

It's fine, it's OK,

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but ultimately I don't think he is

saying much. A nice spread in the

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movie when some how next page gets

infected and they begin to repair

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the marital discord about.

That's

nice.

It doesn't go anywhere. The

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director used to be a camera

operator. Quite visceral, in amongst

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the fray and that is quite

appealing. But can we praise Nicolas

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Cage?

All day long, twice on Sunday.

When he is dialled up what is he

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saying, I'm I realising everything,

enjoying me, and you can't help but

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do that.

Yes.

I love Nick Cage, con

air is my favourite movie from

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Nicolas Cage. I kind of thing... I

know this will be unpopular, I never

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realised it is possible for him to

be too over the top. In this film he

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saw the start that full throttle and

accelerates from there. For the full

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unleashed Nick Cage experience you

need him to be at least initially

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leashed.

We are always aware with

him as an actor that he has a movie

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like the bad Lieutenant Colonel, he

can be more lyrical, he can dial it

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down. That is within him. I think he

is like the modern-day... Amazing

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films and then 80 forgettable ones.

He's coming up to 100 movies now.

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This is true, most of which sadly

forgettable and most which recently

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have gone straight to video. This is

great because if there is -- there

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is a cinematic release for this one.

I love Nick Cage, and the wild ABCD

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E guy. I thought for the most part

he had gone, recently he's been

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phoning in with some performances

just moping around with his big moon

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face.

Real face? He'd be horrified

to hear that.

He's engaged, engage

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the cage.

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In the 1940s, actress Hedy Lamarr

was marketed as the world's

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most beautiful woman -

a title she'd come to despise.

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Frustrated by the limits

of a Hollywood career, she did not,

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like many other diversifying actors,

invent a line of perfumes

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or publish a book of photographs.

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Instead, she invented

the technology behind wifi.

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Now another Hollywood immortal,

Susan Sarandon, has produced

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a feature documentary

about the remarkable Lamarr's life.

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I went to meet her...

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Hedy Lamarr, screen goddess by day,

inventor by night. Quite a story. It

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is one that has enthralled actress

Susan Sarandon. When did you first

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become aware of her extraordinary

extracurricular activities?

When I

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started the documentary, we were not

sure we would be able to prove that

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she actually had invented.

Inventing

was her hobby. She not only had a

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complete inventing table set up in

her house, but Howard Hughes gave

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her a small version of the set of

equipment that she had in the

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trailer where she stayed in between

takes for her motion pictures.

There

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are some people that just didn't

want to believe that someone that

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beautiful, a woman that beautiful,

could have done that. It seems too

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preposterous.

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Not only was there the bias in the

scientific community, and the world

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in general, a beautiful woman

contributing to science, but then

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there was the problem of ageism in

Hollywood.

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Well, Hedy Lamarr, she was at her

most famous at a time when

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Hollywood, the machine, they were

described as racehorses,

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amphetamines to get them going

during the day, sleeping pills at

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night, 18 hour days. The good old

days! Do you recognise that image of

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Hollywood does that sound like hell

to you?

You exchange your personal

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life for this protection of the

studio. People literally got away

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with murder. What did they give in

exchange for that? The studio pretty

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much controlled their life for the

duration of the contract. So much of

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making someone into an icon has to

do with how they are packaged. They

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had a better system of that, I

think.

Thinking about Lamrr and the

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beauty tag, and the sexy tag that

has been levelled at you, is that a

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stultifying thing?

Well, I was never

called the most beautiful woman in

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the world, I saw myself as a

character actor. There are two kinds

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of actor, you have people like De

Niro, Sean Penn, I think of myself

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as that. That is probably why I have

lasted, playing character parts, and

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they don't have identifiable, really

strong personality that is packaged

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and sold, like George Clooney. But

people will not accept George

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Clooney playing a bad guy, probably.

In a career spanning almost 50

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years, Sarandon herself has

defiantly escaped pigeonholing.

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Roles in Thelma & Louise, The

Witches of Eastwick, Atlantic City

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and Dead Man Walking, she has

remained very much her own person.

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So many of the films you have been

involved in half the event films,

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inasmuch as...

It's crazy.

The

conversation goes on for about a

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year. Are you ever aware in the

moment that it is going to be that,

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or is it always a surprise?

We

didn't with Thelma & Louise. We were

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doing a cowboy movie with women on

trucks instead of guys on horses.

I

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don't think so.

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Ridley Scott is a genius. It became

so iconic, I think, because he put

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us in this landscape that John Wayne

had been part of.

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You choose things that the director

feels passionate about because that

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is really important. Bull Durham was

like that, I love Bull Durham.

In

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another lifetime I was probably

Catherine the great Francis of

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Assisi.

What was that character

like, the baseball fan who offers

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her body and soul to one player. How

did that character read on the page?

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Great. That is why I jumped through

hoops to get it. Nobody in the

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studio, they didn't want it. She was

smart and funny, she was in charge

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and did not have to die because of

it at the end. Kevin was so hot.

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Sarandon may have enjoyed such a

variety of roles, but as the

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documentary reveals, back in the

40s, things were not as easy for

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Hedy Lamarr, who eventually died

alone and a recluse. Ultimately, do

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you see her as an inspirational

figure or is it more of a cautionary

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tale?

I think both. Mostly an

inspiration. I think it is

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inspirational for young women to

understand that they don't have to

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choose between being beautiful, sexy

and smart. Was it a cautionary tale?

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Yeah, because ultimately I don't

think she had a very gentle last

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act. There is a transition that

happens for everyone, if you are

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lucky enough to live past 50, 60,

70. I'm going to be 72. It can be a

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really interesting time. But for

Hedy it was the end of everything.

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Yeah, I guess it is a cautionary

tale, although we are not against

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what the most beautiful woman in the

world was up against.

Susan

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Sarandon, thank you very much.

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72? Impossible to believe! We asked

you on Twitter for your top star of

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Hollywood's golden age. Thomas says

Mary Pickford, one of the most

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powerful women in Hollywood scene to

this day and a trained trailblazing

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producer. Another, John Wayne for

action, Laurel and Hardy for comedy.

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There is a great story, John Wayne

was discovered carrying an armchair

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over his head on the set of a movie,

the director said, part that man on

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film! -- put that man.

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Our last film is Walk Like

a Panther, a British comedy set

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in the world of wrestling,

grunting, grit and lycra...

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Nothing meant more than being in the

ring with the Panthers. My wrestling

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family. The 1980s, an audience of

millions.

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Now we are pulling pints, and I

wouldn't change a thing.

Shame,

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really, that this is to be my final

pint in here.

What is he talking

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about?

They are going to close.

They

can't be serious? If that pub

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closes, we are left with nothing, so

we have to do the greatest show of

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our lives. It's not going to be

easy, we have to turn the clock back

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30 years. You look ridiculous!

Ziggy.

What is that shortfall?

What

0:23:150:23:28

are you short for!?

It's going to go

viral.

Not me, I am clean as a

0:23:280:23:36

whistle!

Now we've got the chance to

make this a fight that will never be

0:23:360:23:42

forgotten.

This is our moment.

Watch

and learn!

Are they swollen?

I don't

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think they are swollen, they are

still very little.

Keep wafting.

0:23:550:24:02

I've got my site back, that is a

bonus.

Time to walk like the

0:24:020:24:08

Panthers that you are! I bloody love

wrestling!

I love you, son.

0:24:080:24:20

wrestling!

I love you, son.

Eh?

We

have come a long way from Local

0:24:200:24:22

Hero. Full Monty, with wrestling?

When you set yourself that low a bar

0:24:220:24:32

and still don't reach it, David Webb

problem. Thing I find impressive is

0:24:320:24:35

how many aspects of it terrible. The

costumes are terrible and

0:24:350:24:40

distracting, the soundtrack is a

horrible litany of large rock that

0:24:400:24:44

nobody should have to listen to, and

yet we do. The editing is

0:24:440:24:55

yet we do. The editing is sub Lock

Stock, freeze frame. Don't get me

0:24:550:24:58

started on the script.

60 speaking

parts, 200 extras, that must be

0:24:580:25:04

applauded?

Yes, more than Avengers.

60 speaking parts, just two jokes,

0:25:040:25:11

by my reckoning. A strange film. I

don't think it is so terrible as

0:25:110:25:17

some of the really low points of

British comedy, the likes of The Six

0:25:170:25:21

Lives Of The Potato Men, Mrs Brown's

Boys The Movie. It is not a bad

0:25:210:25:31

film. It desperately wants to be

likeable but it can't make up its

0:25:310:25:35

mind what it wants to be. Is it a

movie that is morning a lost Britain

0:25:350:25:41

that never existed, does it have a

social conscience, a father-son

0:25:410:25:47

story, or a comedy about wrestlers

that over the hill? It doesn't

0:25:470:25:50

really decide.

Movies like this push

the pantomime tone to such a pitch,

0:25:500:25:55

even a lovely actor like Stephen

Graham, even an actor like that,

0:25:550:26:03

begins to not be able to pick up a

pint and drink it in a way that

0:26:030:26:06

seems human and normal. It almost

begins to feel like Kabuki.

That is

0:26:060:26:12

what I find most unforgivable, it

makes good actors look really bad.

0:26:120:26:17

Stephen Tompkinson, who I usually

like is terrible, everybody is

0:26:170:26:23

terrible in it. It reflects badly on

their past careers. I am watching

0:26:230:26:27

Dave Johns and thinking, was Daniel

Blake as good as I remember it,

0:26:270:26:34

because he is terrible in this.

Just

his second film, working with a very

0:26:340:26:40

improvisational technique, with a

script, he does have a very naive

0:26:400:26:43

quality. I'm not sure that works?

No, he seems to be in a slightly

0:26:430:26:49

different movie to everybody else.

Stephen Graham seems to be a

0:26:490:26:51

different movie to everybody else.

Different parts of Great Britain,

0:26:510:26:55

never mind movies!

The accidents,

some Geordie, some Scouse,

0:26:550:27:03

Mancunian?

Doesn't come together.

The Full Monty was not my favourite

0:27:030:27:11

movie, but it had a beating heart,

it was sincere. The director of this

0:27:110:27:15

went to see Big Daddy wrestling when

he was 12 and it went in deep when

0:27:150:27:21

he read interviews. I'm not sure...

Film of the week? We are out of

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time!

0:27:240:27:26

The wonderful Clive Anderson

is here next week, but we'll leave

0:27:270:27:30

you with the Chilean winner

of Best Foreign Film

0:27:300:27:32

at this year's Oscars,

A Fantastic Woman.

0:27:320:27:34

Starring rising 28-year-old

trans actor Daniela Vega,

0:27:340:27:35

the film is the story of a singer,

Marina.

0:27:350:27:38

Following her boyfriend's death,

she is forced to confront the family

0:27:380:27:42

that won't accept her

for what she is, which is -

0:27:420:27:45

like Hedy Lemarr,

Susan Sarandon and ...

0:27:450:27:47

Ellen E Jones - sorry Chris!

0:27:470:27:48

A fantastic woman.

0:27:480:27:50

Good night!

0:27:500:27:53

DISTANT DANCE MUSIC

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Antonia Quirke, Ellen E Jones and Chris Hewitt review psychological thriller You Were Never Really Here starring Joaquin Phoenix, and Susan Sarandon talks about Hollywood, stardom and her new documentary on 1940s actress and inventor Hedy Lamarr.