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'I don't know of anyone else that uses Irish dancing to praise God.' | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
'If you tell other dance schools about it, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
'they're, like, looking at you, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
'and, but, like, "What are you talking about?"' | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
'I just believe the glory of God comes down | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
'and can bring the whole audience into that spiritual level, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
'and that's...that's when you would find people who would, maybe,' | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
just start to cry or, you know, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
are not even aware, and it's just the peace. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:52 | |
There's just a real peace. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
I'm Deborah Anderson and I started Irish dancing | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
when I was three years old. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
I competed all my life in the feis world of Irish dancing. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
I danced right up until I got married. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Erm, I think I was about 21 years old, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
and then, when I got married, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
I just came out of the dance world. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
It wasn't until after my third child that | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
I wasn't really getting over the birth of him | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and, I suppose, really, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:51 | |
I probably suffered a bit of postnatal depression, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
and that was a very searching time for me. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
That was a time when I didn't have the dance world to | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
fall back into and I just felt, | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
"I am just not getting myself back to normal, here." | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
And I really sat in my home one day, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
and I thought about God, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
and I thought, "OK, God, if you're really there, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
"and if you really care, and if you really care about me, | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
"you have got to show me," | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
and that's how my faith started. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
# Something inside of me... # | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
People would say to me, "Deborah, what are you?" | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
You know, in the religious sense. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
I would say, "I'm in a relationship with Jesus." | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
You know, I am a Christian and I believe in the gospel | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
and that's what I am. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:34 | |
CLAPPING ALONG TO MUSIC | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
I attend a church called Covenant Love Church in Belfast. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
I love to hear the songs and I love to watch them when they dance. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
They're not trained dancers, but they just move, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
I suppose, as the spirit falls on them, and I enjoy it. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
I think it's really nice and it is a form of worship. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
You know, and I just enjoy listening to the word being preached. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
Father, we thank you so much | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
for what you're doing through Deborah Anderson. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Father, we thank you for the Zephaniah Dances and the Ministry. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
Lord God, bless this precious lady and her Ministry. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
In Jesus' name, amen. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
# This beating heart | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
# Like a drum it will beat for you | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
# This heart | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
# Like a drum it will beat | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
# My soul | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
# And my soul sings for you... # | 0:03:23 | 0:03:28 | |
'Whenever I really came into face,' | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
really, what was laying in my heart about Irish dancing, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
about maybe starting a dance school, and at that stage... | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
And I believe that was God that was laying that on my heart, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
and eventually, I came to the point when I thought, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
"Right, OK, I'll do it." | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
# This beating heart | 0:03:44 | 0:03:45 | |
# I was made I was made for you | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
# My God Evermore, evermore | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
# My soul | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
# My soul sings for you... # | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
'The Zephaniah Dancing in our school would be a dance ministry. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
'God has taken Irish dancing and he uses... | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
'He uses the Irish dancing as a vessel to minister' | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
through the children to the people that we would attend for bookings. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
# Formed in the secret place | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
# A mystery born of love and grace... # | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
Zephaniah 3:17 says about, "The Lord, your God is with you," | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
and it talks, also, about him singing over us, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
so I just thought, "That's a lovely verse. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
"I'll call them the Zephaniah Dancers." | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
# Like a drum It will beat for you | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
# This heart Like a drum it will beat | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
# My soul... # | 0:04:37 | 0:04:38 | |
But they all dance. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
That's the main thing they do, but then, out of that comes... | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
Some of them sing, some of them play the harp, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
some will share about their own life, their own testimony | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
about the coming into faith with God, themselves, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
and I think, through this, that God uses them to spread the word. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
# My soul sings for you | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
# My soul | 0:04:58 | 0:04:59 | |
# My soul sings for you. # | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
CHEERING | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Easter is just around the corner, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
and the Zephaniah Dancers have been asked to perform | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
at Drumcree Parish Church on Good Friday. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
With only a week until then, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Deborah searches through their back catalogue for a dance | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
appropriate to the occasion. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
'They are going to present a little piece of a dance that they did | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
'about eight years ago, which is called "Is There A Heaven For Me?", | 0:05:32 | 0:05:36 | |
'and we're going to take about four wee sections of that dance, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
'about the crucifixion and about Mary Magdalene,' | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
and we are going to present that to the people of Drumcree Church. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
Some people may think this is just a type of entertainment. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
Some people might not be happy at that, but I know, personally, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
for myself and my girls, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
you know, to call it entertainment is a real... | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
A bit of an insult for us, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
because we've worked so hard | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
and we really pray about what we're doing, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
and we believe that when we do Zephaniah Dancing, | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
it's like preaching the word of God through our dancing and our singing, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
and whatever gifts the girls have. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Even with the best of intentions, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
the idea of Irish dancing in Drumcree Church, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
with its history of upholding strong, traditional views, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
has taken a bit of getting used to for some - | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
none more so than Deborah's friend, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
and mother of one of the Zephaniah Dancers, Geraldine McAlinden. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
When you first said, like, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
"Is it OK if Bonnie and all dances in Drumcree On Good Friday?" | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
I was actually shocked. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
I didn't ever think I'd see the day that | 0:06:47 | 0:06:51 | |
Bonnie would be doing Irish dancing in Drumcree, | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
but now I understand it's not. It's Zephaniah. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
They're telling a story and I think a lot of people would understand | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
it's nothing to do with religion. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
What is it to do with? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
God! | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
Geraldine lives on the predominantly Catholic Garvaghy Road. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Her daughter Bonnie is one of the Zephaniah Dancers | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
to have joined the troupe most recently. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
Before she was born, I always wanted a little girl | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
and I wanted her to do Irish dancing, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
and then, when Bonnie was born, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I used to put ribbons in her hair | 0:07:30 | 0:07:31 | |
and dress her up in little dresses and stuff. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
She was a girlie girl, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:35 | |
but she does have a gift and I think that gift is dancing. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
When I was wee, I always went to Deborah's shows, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
like, in the Waterfront and Portadown Hall, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
and it was really exciting to see the girls up on stage dancing | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
and I believe I was ministered to when I went to see the dances, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
and I just believe that I was supposed to dance for Deborah | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
and be a part of Zephaniah. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
A lot of people in our community, round here, on the Garvaghy Road, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
would think being part of Zephaniah, it was Protestant, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
and it's not. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
When Bonnie went to Deborah's, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
Bonnie was a young Catholic girl, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
going into an Orange Hall, who lived on the Garvaghy Road | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
and goes to an Irish-speaking Catholic school in Armagh, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:26 | |
so, I think, being a part of Zephaniah is | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
breaking down those barriers of, like, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
you don't have to be one or the other | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
to come and dance in this, here. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:37 | |
It's your love for God that is the reason why she's dancing in it. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
Zephaniah has changed my life | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
because I've started to grow in my faith with God | 0:08:48 | 0:08:51 | |
and I've become friends with people who are Christians | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
and who have been Christians their whole lives, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
and I've started to live a life like them, | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
and, like, trying to be more Christ-like. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Like, trying to do more good things | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
and trying to be more nice and not to just judge people. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
From when Bonnie was a little girl, | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
I've sewed a holy medal into her dresses, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
and these are all from Lourdes | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
when I went with Conor, when he was wee - her brother - | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
and I just think, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
well, when she's dancing, God will help her. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
I have always said that, when she does her slip jig, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
for the angels to lift her up on her feet, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
and so, then, I have the angels on the back of her dress, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:36 | |
to help her, as well. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
I don't see nobody else when Bonnie dances, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
I just see Bonnie on the stage. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
And they're not my trophies, they're her trophies that she wins. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
Like, when I come home from a festival and that I have a trophy, | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
it's Mummy's trophy. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:53 | |
She'll be like, "Oh, that's my trophy. I won that." | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
I'm not taking her glory for it, it's just, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
I'm so proud of her when she does win, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
and not only when she does - | 0:10:02 | 0:10:03 | |
also when you don't win, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I'm still really proud of you, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
cos you get up and you're showing me something I'd love to do. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:12 | |
You know, it's... | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
I would love to have been a dancer. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
I was a swimmer and, unfortunately, dancing wasn't for me. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
MUSIC: Second Chances by Imagine Dragons | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Deborah uses the Orange Hall in Portadown as a practice space. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Before today's rehearsal, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
she has met up with her most senior dancer, Emily, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
who will reprise her role as Mary Magdalene on Good Friday. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
Eight years have passed since she last performed the part, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
but one dance in particular still stands out. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
'The grieving dance is portraying how Mary Magdalene feels at that' | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
time when Jesus has been crucified, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
so it's very important for me to try and get across | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
how she would feel at the time, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
so it does need to be a very powerful and a very emotional dance. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
# Hotter than friction | 0:11:05 | 0:11:06 | |
# Subtle as sound | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
# There'll be no forgiveness | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
# When you come around | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
# Oh, these days | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
# Oh, these days get heavy | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
# I get older... # | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
Emily's a young woman now and she's leaving me this year. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
She's going to go away to Dundee and... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
Don't freak out, now. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:29 | |
Oh, I know, but you won't be about as much, and that is always hard. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
It's always difficult | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
and I remember Emily's whole troupe of girls that were in this, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
when they left me for university, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
a lot of them went away to Scotland and England | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
and down in the south and that, and it was just awful. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
You know, I actually was... | 0:11:45 | 0:11:46 | |
I was grieving and I remember being with the teacher | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
and just saying, you know, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:50 | |
"I just don't like teaching dancing any more. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
"I just don't have the heart for it." | 0:11:52 | 0:11:54 | |
And she says, "What's wrong?" and I says, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
"I have no idea what's wrong with me. I can't do it. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
"I think I've lost it." | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
And she says to me, "Have you lost senior girls?" | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
And I says, "Yeah." And it's, just, "You're grieving." | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
So, erm, it's very emotional and it's lovely to have this dance. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
You know, it's very, very special that we've got it. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
It's not just Emily who's returning to old material. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
Joining the current Zephaniah troupe will be | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
some now-retired senior dancers, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
and it seems the novelty of being back in Deborah's class | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
is holding up the process. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Get back and go again, and you need to be quiet. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
Girls, I have no time! | 0:12:36 | 0:12:37 | |
Because Zephaniah dancing is just that wee bit more special, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
we've been able to create a really close bond together, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
and it is nice to come back and dance again together, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
after all this time. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Like, we've got girls, including myself, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
who haven't been in this dancing room in, like, three years, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
so, it's just getting people and girls who haven't danced | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
with each other or been in a room with each other, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
just, to get it all together, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
but, hopefully, by Friday... What you see now will be | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
completely different to what you see on Friday. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
Stop. We need to try and do this. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
Right, right, girls, come on. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Hayley and Katie, you come. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Well, if we're going to present the gospel, it has to look right. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
You know, there will be a lot of carrying-on in the class, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
but we are all aware, underneath the carrying-on, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
it has to be right, and I refuse to put work up if it's not ready. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
-STICKS RATTLE -No, no. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
I would.... No, no, no, no. It's too quick going into that. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
I would have went on with that. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Girls, you just want to see the shape of you... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Deborah, she's been stressed out, but she hasn't been, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
like, crazy, crazy, and that's something that I've taken from it, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
is, like, how not to stress. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:44 | |
At the end of the day, it's not me that gets to decide what happens, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
it's God that gets to decide, so I should leave it up to him, really. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
It's helped me deal with loads of things in life, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
like school and music and things like that. I don't get really, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
really stressed out about them, because there's no point. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
It's going to be what it's going to be. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
As well as dancing with Zephaniah, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
Jasmyn often sings Christian songs as part of the performance. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
# I was lost | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
# When you found me here | 0:14:07 | 0:14:12 | |
# You pulled me close | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
# And you held me near... # | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
I love music. I just... | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
It just made me so happy and it just gives me such peace, | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
and I obviously love to dance. I've been dancing since I was six. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
Dancing is the first gift that I can recall ever having. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
I could dance before I could sing. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
I could dance before I could ever play an instrument. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
Zephaniah gives me the opportunity to use my gift for God's purpose, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
and his advancement, so I guess | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
I'm so thankful to Zephaniah for that | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
that I don't use my gifts for selfish purposes, | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
but they're for a greater purpose. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
# All I have is all from you | 0:14:46 | 0:14:51 | |
# And all I want is all of you | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
# Your grace... # | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
I see myself as a messenger for God in everyday life, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
and everything that I do, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:02 | |
so, of course, dancing's a big part of it. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
It's another way I can show the gospel, through, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
other than words, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:09 | |
and the purpose is to save the lost | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
and people that don't know God, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
and to bring those who do know God joy and refreshing into their lives. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
I feel like whatever God gifts you with, | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
you should use for his glory and, yeah, some people may not | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
understand it, sometimes, but God sees our hearts | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
and he knows why we're doing it and he sees our minds, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
so I think God loves it. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
-Back on the Garvaghy Road... -Hello. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
..Geraldine has been waiting for Bonnie's return from school. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
An important letter has arrived in the post | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
from a local university that Bonnie wants to attend. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
I opened it, now. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:09 | |
-Isn't that brilliant? -Yeah. -A wee interview! | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
That's really good. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
I'm just delighted that she got an interview | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
cos it's been every single day, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
she's been texting or phoning, "Has the post come yet?" | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
And I'm having to go, "No." | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
It's been a very stressful few weeks. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
I was waiting for my interview for Queen's. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
It's where really want to go | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
and all my friends had got their interviews | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
and I hadn't, and I was just very... | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Not a good time, but I'm sure it's in God's plans. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
She's got a place in Stirling | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
and I don't really want her to go to Scotland | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
cos I like to be involved, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:52 | |
and I think, probably, going off to university, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
that's the scary thing, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
that I won't be involved any more, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
you know, and I think that's why I want you to stay at home, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
cos I want to still be your mummy and look after you | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
and bring you places and do things with you. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
This is our time, going to festivals - | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
Mummy and Bonnie time. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
For all the Zephaniah girls, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
competing at festivals runs alongside their Dance Ministry, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
and even with the Good Friday performance happening tomorrow, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
the competitive circuit must be given its due. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
We're at Ballyclare Festival, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
where Bonnie and Emily are both competing against each other, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
so the girls will be fighting for | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
-first, second and third place, tonight, won't you? -Sure. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
-As friends? -Yeah. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
Ah, well, we'll see. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYS | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
And I think the competition's good for the two girls, you know? | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
It's hard if you're not the adjudicator's choice or | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
the adjudicator's style, | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
and, tonight, we have a really strong festival adjudicator, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
and I feel Emily has more of me in her, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
more of a feis style in her, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
and then, I have Bonnie, that was born into festival dancing | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
and she has a wee streak of me, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
so, erm, it'll be interesting to see how the results go, tonight. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYS | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
Bonnie is only young into this age group, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
but she's standing out tonight. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
She's very, very natural, very controlled, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
and so I've been writing on her mark-sheets a lot | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
about the strength of her legs, the control of her feet, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
the precision of her turning. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
She never... She never falters. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
FASTER MUSIC PLAYS | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
BELL RINGS | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
Clearly displaying the adjudicator's preferred style, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Bonnie picks up some silverware. APPLAUSE | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
The true recipient may be in question, though. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
You're acting like it's your cup. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
I heard someone say well done to you. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
-You didn't get up and dance. -But I dance in my heart. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
I dance, when I'm watching you, I am dancing in my heart. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
You didn't get up and dance, though. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:07 | |
-You didn't work hard. -I know, but, it's, what do you call it? | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
A consolation prize cos I don't get up and dance. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
-A-star for effort. -A-star for effort. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
You can tell your kids you're proud of them, but I think | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
bringing Bonnie to festivals and watching her dance, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
that's... That's my pride. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
That's... I just...I love it. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
For Emily, who didn't place so highly in this particular competition, | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
it's all about perspective and having the right attitude. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
'If you don't do the best at a festival, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:35 | |
'you just have to get over it.' | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Tomorrow, it's not about competitions, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
it's about our Zephaniah Dancing, so we just need to focus on that, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
and focus on what we're doing. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
It's Good Friday and that's what's important. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
BIRDS TWITTER | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
The next morning, Drumcree Church has opened up to let | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
Deborah and the Zephaniah Dancers in for some rehearsal time. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
OK, let's go. Let's go. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Making her way up the aisle of the church has brought back | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
fond memories for Deborah, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
adding extra significance to the upcoming performance. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
26 years ago, I got married in this church. | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
It had been mentioned that I would stop dancing, at the time, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
and I did stop, you know, for a time, and I never, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
ever thought the day that, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
when I was kneeling up there at the altar, | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
that I would bring a pile of Irish dancers into this church. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
It's a wee bit of a miracle. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
It's like God's just way bigger than how we think, at times, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
and that's quite amazing, and it's... | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
It's just really nice to see. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
MUSIC: Curlews by Grasscut | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
It's different | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
and, for some people, as I've been hearing already. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
some people are not happy, | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
because it is dancing, you know, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
and the church stable think | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
that that's un-respectful, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
but at the same time, they're informed of what we're doing, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
and they'll make that decision, themselves, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
of whether they'll want to come out or not. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Obviously, whenever you mention Irish dancing, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
everybody has their own thoughts on that, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
but I think that times have changed. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
A lot of people are concerned about, you know, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
the world coming into the church, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
but I don't see it that way. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
I see it that the message, the word of God, is still the same. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
It hasn't changed, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
but just because we dramatise it or because we put a bit of music to it, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
whether that be contemporary music | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
or whether that be traditional music, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I don't think it really matters. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
To me, it's the meaning of it - the heart behind it. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
-MAN'S VOICE: -Into your hands, I commit my spirit. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
Into this flesh... | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
We're not here to offend anybody. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
We're here just to worship God and that's what tonight is all about. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
It's about worshipping God, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
and what He has done for us and what His Son has done for us, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
and Irish dancing can do that, so whether people perceive it as | 0:22:18 | 0:22:22 | |
it's the right thing to do in the church or not, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
or whether people perceive it as a different culture or not, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
they're seeing a church that's doing something in a different way, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
and maybe they've been hearing preachers before, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
about hellfire and damnation and that - | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
and I'm not saying that's wrong - but what I'm saying here | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
is that this is the story being told in a different manner, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
to embrace all people. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:44 | |
Don't sit behind a pillar, whatever you do. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
And it seems like all people have caught wind of what's | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
happening in Drumcree this evening. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
As the congregation pour in, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
Deborah is realising the performance has become a talking point. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
'I think this is all very normal that we're dancing here tonight. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
'This is all very normal to me,' | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
but the more I'm hearing of people that's coming into the church, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
they're all like, "Is this really happening here tonight?" | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
There's a real sort of buzz going on. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
Heavenly Father, we just pray for tonight, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
and I just commit all these girls to you, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
and I pray, Lord, that you just look after them, | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
and we pray that they be a blessing tonight in Drumcree, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
and that you are glorified. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
-In Jesus' name, amen. -Amen. -Amen. -Let's go. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
As the dancers begin, the eyes of the congregation are on them, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
to see just how Irish dance can deal with | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
the most important event in Christian history. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
STICKS CLICK | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Innocent! | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
Innocent! | 0:23:55 | 0:23:56 | |
Guilty! | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
Guilty! | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
-MAN'S VOICE: -Jesus is led away to be crucified. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
We talk about Irish dancing, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
and we all know that it would normally be put down to | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
a certain group of people, and yet, to see the story being told | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
the way it was told tonight was incredible, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
and what an impact, and it couldn't not have an impact. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
STICKS CLICK | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
STICKS CLICK | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
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-DEBORAH: -People, they didn't expect, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
you know, what was going to happen, and I always find that with people, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
they just have this face on them, as if, like, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
"What is actually happening in front of us?" | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
I suppose, tonight, for the first time, I really sort of | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
tried to sit down and watch them, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
and, erm, yeah, I thought they were lovely. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
I have to say, my favourite bit is after the tomb, you know, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
and Emily coming down, or Mary Magdalene coming down, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
and dancing down and picking up the girls. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
I just thought that was special to see that happening here tonight. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
FAST TRADITIONAL IRISH MUSIC PLAYS | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
From the very beginning, I don't know why, I just got so emotional. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
I've just... I was crying from the very beginning. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
It was just... It's not something I would normally do. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
I wouldn't normally be here, do you know what I mean? | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
And now that I am here, it's... | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
Something else just took over. It doesn't matter. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
I was born a Catholic, but that doesn't mean to say | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
I have to go to a Catholic church, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
you know, and I don't have to go to a Protestant church, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
or any other kind of church. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
You can praise God anywhere | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
and Zephaniah has taught me that, there. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
-Hiya, are you all right? -Yes. -That was brilliant. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
'It's funny, when people say to me, you know, "Why do you do this?" | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
'And I don't often think about that.' | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
I just think, I'm doing my dance class, and I'm just doing | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
the next thing, and I'm just doing Zephaniah Dancing. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
I never really stop to think, you know, "What am I really doing?" | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
until someone really stops me in my tracks and says, "This is great." | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
I don't think any of us really know the significance | 0:27:02 | 0:27:04 | |
of what has actually happened here tonight. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
We've seen what can happen, not just in this church, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
but in any church, and it's just where we come together, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
as a group of people, and worship freely, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
and that's what has happened here tonight, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
and the Zephaniah Dancers have been key to that. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
Easter Sunday, however, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
came with a slight sting in the tail for Zephaniah. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
Unhappy with the direction their | 0:27:36 | 0:27:37 | |
church had been taking recently, | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
some parishioners walked out as the girls got up to perform. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
Unfortunately, it ended up in the newspapers, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
and there's just a wee thing here, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:48 | |
it says, about the dancing in the aisles, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
"It was the final straw that broke the camel's back." | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
You know, I guess the people had had enough, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
and I can understand that if they're passionate about their tradition, | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
and about how things go forward, but how can I stop it? | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
Because I really believe that God started this ministry and I love it. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
It's challenging. It's a lot of hard work. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Sometimes I feel I'm crazy, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
but I just feel that God has really did a big work... | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
a big work in my life, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
that it's just a natural part of me | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
and I hope and I pray that it lives on. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 |