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Since Irish dancing migrated to all corners of the globe, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
it has embraced many other traditions and styles | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
and turned into an international business. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
It's an art form... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
a sport... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
and an entertainment. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
But despite the amateur status of the competitions, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
the world of Irish dance dress design is nothing but professional. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:34 | |
And there's a newcomer taking the stage. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
Thelma Madine, celebrity wedding dressmaker | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
to the travelling community, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
believes her sewing and marketing skills are transferable. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
I think Irish dancing, to me, it's always been a fascination with me, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
ever since I seen it on the Eurovision. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
I just thought it was an absolutely amazing world, and I thought, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
"I want to be part of this." | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
Because it's everything I love about what we do. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
I don't understate anything. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
It's like, if we do a dress for a traveller - | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
"Do you like that dress? Yeah? Well, double it. Put more on." | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
World-renowned teacher and designer Gavin Doherty has trained | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
and dressed many world champions. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
He has concerns. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
People coming into this world, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
they see a kid in a wig and they | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
focus on that. They don't focus on, | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
you know, the talent and the work. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
You know, these kids are athletes. And the kids at this competition, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
they are the top athletes in the world. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
Because Thelma was on TV, she might fight it difficult, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
because a lot of people will be resistant towards | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
portraying Irish dancing in that way. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
I'm here to please the customer. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
And if they ask me to do something, | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
then it's never going to be off-limits. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
No matter what they ask me to do, I will do. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
-I'm going to ask the inevitable one. -Go on. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
Are you planning on putting the fairy lights on any of them? | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Possibly. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
I'm here to break the rules, really. And let's see how far I can get. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
Thelma's first-ever Irish dancing dress customer | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
was Essex-born Erin Cooke, who was one of a trio of sisters. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
In my family, there's me, Gaby, Megan and my mum. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:27 | |
Gaby used to dance, but she quit. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
And Megan is, I think, still dancing. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:38 | |
Erin is the most successful dancer in the family. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
A fact that isn't always celebrated by her sisters. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
This room was our playroom. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
The dogs stay in here now, but my trophies have to be in here | 0:02:50 | 0:02:53 | |
because Gaby thinks they look tacky in our room, so she won't let me | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
keep anything, except for my world medal and globe next to my bed. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:02 | |
Erin was attracted to Thelma's blinged-up dress designs | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
after seeing her on TV. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
We always watch My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
So, one night we were watching it | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
and I just thought they were really nice and sparkly. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
So I told my mum, "I want her to make me a dance dress," | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
and she said, "Well, go on, then, e-mail her." | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
To everyone's surprise, Thelma agreed to make her first-ever | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Irish dance dress for Erin. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Obviously we have a huge amount of very, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
very successful Irish dressmakers, and that's who everyone sticks to. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
So for her to completely go off the tangent | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
and have a dress made by Thelma Madine is so, so different. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
And there are obviously girls thinking, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
"Oh, why would you have a dress made by her? | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
"I had mine made by X, Y or Z." | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
But I'm sure there's probably | 0:03:53 | 0:03:54 | |
a little bit of the green eyed monster in some of them. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
Erin has outgrown her old dress, and Thelma has been working | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
on a brand-new design, but she's kept all of the details a secret. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
Until now. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
Today she's unveiling the dress at the World Championships. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:13 | |
They've basically left this to us, | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
and we've just put our own... our own stamp on it, really, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
and it's what.... | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
We're trying to, not break the rules, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
but push the rules a little bit. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
I love it. Honestly, I love the all-white idea. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
I don't want to say beautiful, but extravagant. It stands out. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
It is beautiful. You can say beautiful. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
And I like that it's not a plain dress, it's different. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
-Bling. -Bling. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
It's bling, it's sparkle. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
It's exactly what dancers are looking for. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
And you know, the reds and the golds and everything. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
That is perfect and exquisite. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
But the dress is not to everyone's liking. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
Renowned Irish dancing teacher Mrs O'Shea is a traditionalist, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and not afraid to share her thoughts. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
You know, in my book, it doesn't have taste. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
I'd like to see something that is definitely more | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
-representative of our culture, our dancing. -Of the culture, yeah. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-And incorporates that. -Yeah, definitely. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
I mean, you tell me where we can move forward | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
but still keep what you're talking about. You know, to keep that in. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
-The colour is very important. -So, what colour are you saying? | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
-I mean, I'm open to this. -There are beautiful colours. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
-Greens, oranges, blues, whites, pinks, the lot. -Right. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
-But, you know, I think it has to be classy. -Right. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
I love the idea that there's snobby people who don't really want | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
the association with Irish dance and gypsies and weddings | 0:05:47 | 0:05:52 | |
and things like that, because it just makes it all | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
the more of a challenge to make sure that it is a success. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
But as Erin tries on her new dress, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
it seems that Mrs O'Shea isn't the only one with misgivings. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
I don't like the shoulders. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
I'm a little apprehensive. I think it's a little bit... | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
-The shape is off and I think there's too much. -Too much, and the shape? | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Yeah, and I'm not sure about you dancing in it. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
I'm just concerned about seeing her move on stage. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Whether all the extra bits is going to make it look like | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
she's got an arm fault or a body fault. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
The dress is deemed unfit for purpose, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
and it's back to the drawing board for Thelma. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
-I wouldn't like a crowd staring at me now. -No. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Established Irish dance dress designers are exhibiting | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
at the World Championships, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
but Thelma is less than impressed by some of the sewing. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
Would we get away with that? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
Maybe you can get away with that more | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
because a child is less three-dimensional. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
As the day draws to a close, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
Thelma and Paula discuss their findings over a glass of wine. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
Don't you think, because it is, like, a traditional thing, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
the views are almost traditional? | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
And so, OK, so you want to do a shoulder and a big, mad skirt, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
and dripping in diamonds, which is brilliant, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
but maybe it's too much too soon for them? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
Do you know what? | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
If we don't do it, that Gavin... Doherty, whatever... | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
What's his name? | 0:07:25 | 0:07:26 | |
He'll do it. Do you know what I mean? | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
He'll do something like that, and I want to be the first to do it. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
He's got the monopoly, Thelma. So, you know... | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
Not for long. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
Back in Liverpool, Thelma understands that | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
staying in the spotlight is key to the success of her business. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
She's starring in the local panto - | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
combining her passion for the theatrical with outrageous costumes. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
-Hello, boys and girls. -AUDIENCE: Hello. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Oh, you can do better than that. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
-Hello, boys and girls. -AUDIENCE: Hello! | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
That's better. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
Now, my name is Fairy Moonbeam... | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
'This is the first year that I've ever been asked | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
'to do anything that is totally out of my comfort zone, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
'which is a pantomime.' | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
Usually you just come on and do your bit, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
but with me they wanted me to wear a big dress | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
and then each scene it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
And my hips are bruised all over. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
They get that big in the end | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
that it's basically impossible to walk or anything. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
The audience just love it. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
You know, when you come in with a new dress on, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
you hear all the little girls going, "Oh!" | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Fairy Moonbeam, it's a pleasure to meet you. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Oh, Father, can we invite Fairy Moonbeam to the wedding too? | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Of course we can. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
I just have to give you my card. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
At first I said I'd never do this again, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
but we've only got six shows to go now, and I think I'd really miss it. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
Meanwhile, Erin, her mum, and the teacher Mandy are making | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
the ten hour round trip to Thelma's factory to discuss ideas for | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
a new dress for the 2015 World Championships in Montreal. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
OK, we're really, really nearly there. We've got the flag now. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
Another five minutes, I reckon. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-You excited? -I don't know. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
I'm, like, excited and nervous. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
I have every faith in her. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
She's...improving with each dress we've had. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
This will be it. This will be the ultimate dress. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
-This is the first time you've been here, Mandy, isn't it? -It is, yes. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:52 | |
So I'm glad you've come because I don't want | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
none of the mistakes what happened last time because, obviously, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
it's cost-effective for us as well, if we're taking things apart... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
-It's the communication. -Definitely. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
And by e-mail it's too hard to do. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
So it's good that we've got you here, and what you want, | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
and obviously Mandy has a big input into what you should have. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:15 | |
Well, we were thinking of maybe | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
going away from the lighter colours this time. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Maybe going something warmer | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
and then putting the sparkle and bright onto it. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
So, like a warmer bubblegum pink, or something. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
Purple and pink together looks quite good. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
-You could do orange. -Yeah, you could do. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
I had orange on that one. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
-Really orange, or something...? -No, bright. -Bright orange. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
-So do you think a lace over this? -I think... | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
I think I'd like something really different this time. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
-We've done lace. -Yeah. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
What if we had solid blocks of diamonds and have the rest, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
you know, in orange? | 0:10:47 | 0:10:48 | |
To be honest, I love the bling. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
OK, let's go for it then. So... | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Getting a new dress is just the biggest stress to me. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
So today I'm very happy that we've spoken about | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
the design and the fit, but it's still very stressful. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
I'm excited because I, personally, believe Thelma's dresses | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
are improving and I think she will go from strength to strength, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
but she's got to get it right, and that's what it boils down to. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
She's got to get it right. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
It's got to be an Irish dance dress, it hasn't got to be a pretty dress. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
And if she gets it right, then she's got a huge market. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Thelma has plans to extend her empire, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
and arrives in Athlone to stock her Irish dancing costumes | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
in local dress emporium Sindy's Bling, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
where she's greeted by owner Sandrina. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
Hello! Give us a hand, girls. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
This is... | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Oh, my God. How are you? | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
Good to see you again. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
Right, I've got all the headdresses and everything there as well. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
-Oh, wow. -Nice, isn't it? | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
Very nice. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
Wow. Some detail in that. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
Isn't there just? | 0:12:09 | 0:12:10 | |
You can have her as blinged-up as that, which is, like, on the front. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
Or you can go a little less bling, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
if you want to, and have it like that. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
There's a price for everyone. That's what we're trying to say. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
And it's not long before the women welcome their first local customers. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
-Hiya, Valerie. -Hi. -Hiya, Mary. -Hello. Hello, ladies. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
What do you like? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
I like the pink one. Can I try it on? | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Do you want to try it on, do you? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
I'm sure we can do that for you. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
The two girls are looking for a new costume for Irish dancing, | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
and Sandrina had been telling me that Thelma was coming over, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
so no better woman to bling-up the costumes than.... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
-And it's a good opportunity to get to talk to her. -Yeah, exactly. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
A brilliant opportunity. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Are you ready for this? | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
-You ready to see her? -Yeah. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
-Right, cover your eyes. -Here we go. -The big reveal. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Close your eyes. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Can we look? | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
Wow! | 0:13:15 | 0:13:16 | |
Do a turn. Spin around for me. Let me... | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Oh, my goodness. Amazing. That is gorgeous. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
It's a little bit big for her. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
-Yes, but it's beautiful. -Yeah. It's gorgeous. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
I think it's nice because there's loads of diamonds on it | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
and because it's pink, and people might be like, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
"Oh, my God. That's a Thelma Madine dress." | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
-Will you be able to dance in it? -Yeah. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
-You going to show us? -You going to show us how you dance? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
And that's why she's eighth in the world. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
-Seventh. -Seventh. Oh, sorry, sorry. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
I think definitely it is the next thing that every | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
Irish dancing school is going to want to have a Thelma dress. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
There's no two ways about it. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
But Thelma's busy schedule has taken its toll | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
on her first Irish dance dress clients. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
It's now only weeks away from the 2015 World Championships, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
and finally Erin has received a template of her new dress. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:21 | |
Minus the embellishments. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:22 | |
We've brought the dress in today | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
so that Mandy can have a quick look at it. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Obviously we've tried it on Erin and there are things that | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
we know are very obviously wrong. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
She'll dance in it today and show Mandy how the skirt goes, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
how wrong the skirt is. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
Thelma doesn't have an Irish dance background. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
And Thelma's ideas are beautiful, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
but they don't necessarily work for an Irish dance dress and... | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
-certainly that would be the case with this skirt. -Yeah. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
And as Erin attempts to dance, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
it soon becomes apparent just how distracting the skirt is. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
Erin has worked so hard this year, | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
she practically is at class five or six times a week. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Unfortunately, that age group is one of the hardest in the whole | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
of the World Championships and that is my concern. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
She needs to have the right look | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
so it's just all about her dancing and her performance. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
It feels really awkward, because this, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:24 | |
because it's too high it feels like I need to keep pulling it down, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
but because there's too much of this, when I kick it's like... | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
-stopping me kicking. -OK, so it's interfering with your dancing? -Yeah. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
I love the colour on you, it's beautiful. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
We've just got to sort the skirt out, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
and let's hope that she comes up with the goods. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
As always, Thelma's tops are beautiful, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
but the skirts are still not right, in my opinion. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
I still think she needs to work on that, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
but we are running out of time, which is a problem for Erin. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
Two weeks have passed and it's time for the World Championships. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
Thelma arrives with her daughter, Katrina | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
and husband, Dave, to set up her first-ever Irish dancing dress stand, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
but is met with a frosty reception. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
When I arrived in Montreal, it was absolutely freezing outside, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
but I can swear, when we went in that hall, it was below freezing. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
I mean, the icy stares I was getting was unbelievable. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
Undeterred, Thelma is determined to upstage the competition. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
That's it. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
I was going to try and make it like a boudoir-type scene. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
You know, with the shades and... You know, just to make it look | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
a little bit more inviting for people to come on. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
But it's not long before | 0:16:42 | 0:16:43 | |
her neighbouring stallholders start to get worried. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
I just want to make sure you're not putting a wall here. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
-No. -Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Looks like we're not putting a wall up there now. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
Thelma soon discovers that archrival Gavin Doherty's stand is nearby. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:13 | |
Don't be looking in from there. Oh, God. You know what? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
I know, I'll look through the curtains and see. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
No, I can see the stand. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
I mean, bloody hell. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
I love me, who do I love? Look at the stand. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
If he was chocolate, he'd eat himself. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
Having never met Gavin before, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
Thelma is quick to introduce herself. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
-Hiya. -How's things? | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
-Pleased to meet you. -You too. How's it going? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
-OK, I think. I don't know, it's a little bit overpowering, isn't it? -Yeah, yeah. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
No, I do. I love your dresses, they are really, really nice. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Thank you very much. Yours look really nice as well. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
I want you to come over and have a look and give me your honest opinion. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Oh, yeah. Not a problem at all. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
-Because people tell you rules and things you can't do, things you can do. -Totally. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
Do you know what? There's plenty of work for all of us. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
There's thousands upon thousands of kids dancing. So, really, it's not a big deal at all. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:06 | |
-You've been doing this a long time, haven't you? -Too long. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
-How long have you been doing it? -About...15 years. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
-I'd love you to come over and just give me... -Oh, definitely. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
We'll even grab a drink and stuff later on anyway. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Yeah, we will. Definitely. OK, all right, love. Bye. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
I think whenever people heard Thelma was making Irish dancing costumes, it did create some ripples. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
It's the fear of portraying Irish dancing as something that | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
it's not, and making it like it's the Toddlers in Tiaras. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
That's it's all about the look, and it's not all about the look. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
You know, we teach these kids day after day, night after night, in class. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
They don't wear costumes. When the World Championships were in Glasgow | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
the last time, there was a write-up in one of the papers | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
that was vile about children - | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
that they look like mini-transvestites | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
and things like that. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
And that's not what we want for this organisation | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
or for Irish dancing in general. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
And I think people were maybe stand-offish from Thelma | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
at the beginning because they were worried it was going to | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
portray Irish dancing in a bad light, and that's certainly not what | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
I would ever want to see happen. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
As the crowds roll in, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:13 | |
Thelma's eye-catching dresses are receiving a mixed reaction. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
Er... Wouldn't be something I would want | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
to put my daughter in, in all honesty. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:24 | |
They don't look to me like dresses | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
that you would be comfortable to actually wear for competition. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
More maybe for a fashion show type thing, but not for competition. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:36 | |
If they saw a world champion wearing a dress like that, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
everyone would probably want one. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
Just like with, like, movie stars and stuff, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
when they advertise a product, you obviously want to get it, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
because, you know, famous people, they're getting it, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
so why don't I get it? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
Yeah. If they win, everybody would start getting them. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Me and my parents talked about this last night. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
If we were really rich, we would, like, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
buy one just to show it to our teacher | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
for, like, a prank or something. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Like, "Hey, hello, Miss Anya. How do you like our new dress?" | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
She would have a conniption. She would probably pass out. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Thelma's unique selling point is her bling. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
From all the dresses I've seen, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
I think she definitely does the bling factor the best. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
I would certainly, being honest, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
hate to see one of those dresses on the world stage, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
because I think Irish dancing has been | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
-criticised in recent years... -Just for the wigs. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
..in going away from tradition. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
So I think if we went down that road we would only be taking | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
so many steps back away from promoting Irish dancing | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
as what it is, which is Irish. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
And while the crowd seems bemused by Thelma's designs, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
she is taken aback by some of Gavin's newest looks. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
I was going to go and have another little look around | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
but I can't believe what I've actually just seen there. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
There's actually flashing lights on the dresses. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
I should just go over and say, "Oh, darling, it's so last year." | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
Oh. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:05 | |
Next morning, Erin has been for a spray tan | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
and is going through her steps with Mandy. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
-You all right? -Yeah. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
I'm nervous, but in a kind of positive way. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:25 | |
I mean, she's ready, she's worked so hard for it. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
Still, in the back of my mind, I worry that she's a bit tired. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
You know, jet lag and all that. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
Don't move too far. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:34 | |
She's got as best a chance as any of them. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
It just depends on the day how they all perform and how it comes across. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
So we'll see. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
Meanwhile, Thelma's presence at the World Championships | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
continues to attract attention. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
-Done. -Thank you so much. Thanks a million. -You're welcome. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
Children have come up to her there | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
and asked for a photograph with her, and I said, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
"I presume that's cos you're a film star, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
"rather than a dressmaker, you know?" | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
But the standard of the dancing is exceptional now. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
And if you have 150 girls in there | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
and there's very little between them, | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
so they're trying to make themselves stand out somehow. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Backstage, Erin Cooke is well aware of the need to make | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
a first impression, as she prepares to reveal | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
an entirely new look to the world. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
The dress looked just beautiful. Yeah, everything. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
It needs that stage. It needs, you know, the big stage | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
and the lights and everything to get the real effect of it. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
Everything just sat right. Everything... Yeah. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Meanwhile, Dave is manning the stall and is doing his best to stay busy. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
You don't really want to know. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
I'm looking at golf clubs here, but... | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
But he's interrupted by a customer | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
who's keen to find out more about the dresses. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
And does it come fully stoned, or is that all extra? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
That one, as it is now, is about 750. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
-Excellent. -We're doing quite well. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
There's a lot of interest here and whatever. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
I'm doing quite well, as a builder goes. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
Having completed two rounds, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
Erin nervously waits to hear if she's been recalled. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:26 | |
-'160. 162.' -Yes! | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
'164. 165.' | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
It's just unbelievable. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
This is like a whole sea of emotion. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
I mean, this is the pinnacle of their year. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
And they don't just dance, they actually live the dancing. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
That's their life. And you can just see so many emotions. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
My heart wouldn't take it, I couldn't do this. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
Meanwhile, Thelma has made a discovery that she's not happy about. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
Just totally pissed off this morning | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
because as a marketing exercise, I've been asking all the people | 0:25:09 | 0:25:14 | |
who have flown through here to, with the chance of winning a dress, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
but really what I want to do is get all their details, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
where they got their last dress, just things like that. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
And four of them who've just came back just said, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
"We don't have a choice where we get our dress from." | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
The school, the dance teacher, tells them where to get their dress from. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
I thought it was democratic. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
It's absolutely ridiculous, | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
I've never heard anything like it in my life. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
Erin is awaiting the results for her age group, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
but soon realises that she's in the wrong hall. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
The London group rush off to the neighbouring auditorium | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
and arrive just in time to hear Erin's result. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
'In 11th place, Sadie Bucknam. Murray Academy, New England.' | 0:25:58 | 0:26:03 | |
'12th place was Erin Grace Cooke...' | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
'In 13th place was Caitlin Marani...' | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
Erin's position of 12th place | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
puts her first out of the London dancers in her age group. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
'From the Hennigan School, Southern region of England, Erin Grace Cook.' | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
From the Dillon Magh Adhair School, Western region USA, Caitlin Marani. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:36 | |
'One, two, three. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
'Thank you, all.' | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
And Erin's not the only one taking to the stage. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Thelma has been asked to present prizes to the 15 to 16-year-olds, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
and it's whet her appetite for future ambitions. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
Coming to Montreal has definitely moved me forward. Definitely. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
But the biggest thing in this world | 0:26:58 | 0:26:59 | |
is to get a champion wearing one of your dresses, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
because to see that champion on the podium, holding that cup up, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
every other kid watching that is going to want that dress, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
or a dress similar to that. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
And I would love to make a dress for a champion. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
Next day, it's business as usual for most of the other dressmakers. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:27 | |
But Thelma is nowhere to be seen, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
leaving her competitors speculating. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
I'm not sure why Thelma left early. She seemed to pack up yesterday. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
I'm not sure whether she had already planned to go early or | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
she wasn't getting the reception she had maybe hoped for. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
I'm not sure how many kids here were wearing Thelma's | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
dresses at the World Championships, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
but I don't think we've lost any customers to her this week. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I think her dress designs are very unique. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
They mightn't be everybody's cup of tea, | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
but I'm sure they will appeal to some dancers. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
And she just really needs to be around the dancing scene | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
to see what the people want and what they don't want. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
But despite her early departure, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
Thelma remains committed to the new business, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
and leaves her naysayers with a strong parting message. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
To the other people who think if they make it difficult for me, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
that I'm going to go away - | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
well, they're out of luck, because I'm not going anywhere. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
I'm staying here, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
and I'll be back next year and the year after and the year after. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 |