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Since Irish dancing migrated to all corners of the globe,

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it has embraced many other traditions and styles

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and turned into an international business.

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It's an art form...

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a sport...

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and an entertainment.

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But despite the amateur status of the competitions,

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the world of Irish dance dress design is nothing but professional.

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And there's a newcomer taking the stage.

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Thelma Madine, celebrity wedding dressmaker

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to the travelling community,

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believes her sewing and marketing skills are transferable.

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I think Irish dancing, to me, it's always been a fascination with me,

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ever since I seen it on the Eurovision.

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I just thought it was an absolutely amazing world, and I thought,

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"I want to be part of this."

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Because it's everything I love about what we do.

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I don't understate anything.

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It's like, if we do a dress for a traveller -

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"Do you like that dress? Yeah? Well, double it. Put more on."

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World-renowned teacher and designer Gavin Doherty has trained

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and dressed many world champions.

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He has concerns.

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People coming into this world,

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they see a kid in a wig and they

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focus on that. They don't focus on,

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you know, the talent and the work.

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You know, these kids are athletes. And the kids at this competition,

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they are the top athletes in the world.

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Because Thelma was on TV, she might fight it difficult,

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because a lot of people will be resistant towards

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portraying Irish dancing in that way.

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I'm here to please the customer.

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And if they ask me to do something,

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then it's never going to be off-limits.

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No matter what they ask me to do, I will do.

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-I'm going to ask the inevitable one.

-Go on.

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Are you planning on putting the fairy lights on any of them?

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Possibly.

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I'm here to break the rules, really. And let's see how far I can get.

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Thelma's first-ever Irish dancing dress customer

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was Essex-born Erin Cooke, who was one of a trio of sisters.

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In my family, there's me, Gaby, Megan and my mum.

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Gaby used to dance, but she quit.

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And Megan is, I think, still dancing.

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Erin is the most successful dancer in the family.

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A fact that isn't always celebrated by her sisters.

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This room was our playroom.

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The dogs stay in here now, but my trophies have to be in here

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because Gaby thinks they look tacky in our room, so she won't let me

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keep anything, except for my world medal and globe next to my bed.

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Erin was attracted to Thelma's blinged-up dress designs

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after seeing her on TV.

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We always watch My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings.

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So, one night we were watching it

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and I just thought they were really nice and sparkly.

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So I told my mum, "I want her to make me a dance dress,"

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and she said, "Well, go on, then, e-mail her."

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To everyone's surprise, Thelma agreed to make her first-ever

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Irish dance dress for Erin.

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Obviously we have a huge amount of very,

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very successful Irish dressmakers, and that's who everyone sticks to.

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So for her to completely go off the tangent

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and have a dress made by Thelma Madine is so, so different.

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And there are obviously girls thinking,

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"Oh, why would you have a dress made by her?

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"I had mine made by X, Y or Z."

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But I'm sure there's probably

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a little bit of the green eyed monster in some of them.

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Erin has outgrown her old dress, and Thelma has been working

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on a brand-new design, but she's kept all of the details a secret.

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Until now.

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Today she's unveiling the dress at the World Championships.

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They've basically left this to us,

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and we've just put our own... our own stamp on it, really,

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and it's what....

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We're trying to, not break the rules,

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but push the rules a little bit.

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I love it. Honestly, I love the all-white idea.

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I don't want to say beautiful, but extravagant. It stands out.

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It is beautiful. You can say beautiful.

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And I like that it's not a plain dress, it's different.

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-Bling.

-Bling.

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It's bling, it's sparkle.

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It's exactly what dancers are looking for.

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And you know, the reds and the golds and everything.

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That is perfect and exquisite.

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But the dress is not to everyone's liking.

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Renowned Irish dancing teacher Mrs O'Shea is a traditionalist,

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and not afraid to share her thoughts.

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You know, in my book, it doesn't have taste.

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I'd like to see something that is definitely more

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-representative of our culture, our dancing.

-Of the culture, yeah.

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-And incorporates that.

-Yeah, definitely.

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I mean, you tell me where we can move forward

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but still keep what you're talking about. You know, to keep that in.

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-The colour is very important.

-So, what colour are you saying?

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-I mean, I'm open to this.

-There are beautiful colours.

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-Greens, oranges, blues, whites, pinks, the lot.

-Right.

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-But, you know, I think it has to be classy.

-Right.

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I love the idea that there's snobby people who don't really want

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the association with Irish dance and gypsies and weddings

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and things like that, because it just makes it all

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the more of a challenge to make sure that it is a success.

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But as Erin tries on her new dress,

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it seems that Mrs O'Shea isn't the only one with misgivings.

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I don't like the shoulders.

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I'm a little apprehensive. I think it's a little bit...

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-The shape is off and I think there's too much.

-Too much, and the shape?

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Yeah, and I'm not sure about you dancing in it.

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I'm just concerned about seeing her move on stage.

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Whether all the extra bits is going to make it look like

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she's got an arm fault or a body fault.

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The dress is deemed unfit for purpose,

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and it's back to the drawing board for Thelma.

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-I wouldn't like a crowd staring at me now.

-No.

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Established Irish dance dress designers are exhibiting

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at the World Championships,

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but Thelma is less than impressed by some of the sewing.

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Would we get away with that?

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Maybe you can get away with that more

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because a child is less three-dimensional.

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As the day draws to a close,

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Thelma and Paula discuss their findings over a glass of wine.

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Don't you think, because it is, like, a traditional thing,

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the views are almost traditional?

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And so, OK, so you want to do a shoulder and a big, mad skirt,

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and dripping in diamonds, which is brilliant,

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but maybe it's too much too soon for them?

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Do you know what?

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If we don't do it, that Gavin... Doherty, whatever...

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What's his name?

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He'll do it. Do you know what I mean?

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He'll do something like that, and I want to be the first to do it.

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He's got the monopoly, Thelma. So, you know...

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Not for long.

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Back in Liverpool, Thelma understands that

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staying in the spotlight is key to the success of her business.

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She's starring in the local panto -

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combining her passion for the theatrical with outrageous costumes.

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-Hello, boys and girls.

-AUDIENCE: Hello.

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Oh, you can do better than that.

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-Hello, boys and girls.

-AUDIENCE: Hello!

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That's better.

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Now, my name is Fairy Moonbeam...

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'This is the first year that I've ever been asked

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'to do anything that is totally out of my comfort zone,

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'which is a pantomime.'

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Usually you just come on and do your bit,

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but with me they wanted me to wear a big dress

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and then each scene it gets bigger and bigger and bigger.

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And my hips are bruised all over.

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They get that big in the end

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that it's basically impossible to walk or anything.

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The audience just love it.

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You know, when you come in with a new dress on,

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you hear all the little girls going, "Oh!"

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Fairy Moonbeam, it's a pleasure to meet you.

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Oh, Father, can we invite Fairy Moonbeam to the wedding too?

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Of course we can.

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I just have to give you my card.

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At first I said I'd never do this again,

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but we've only got six shows to go now, and I think I'd really miss it.

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Meanwhile, Erin, her mum, and the teacher Mandy are making

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the ten hour round trip to Thelma's factory to discuss ideas for

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a new dress for the 2015 World Championships in Montreal.

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OK, we're really, really nearly there. We've got the flag now.

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Another five minutes, I reckon.

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-You excited?

-I don't know.

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I'm, like, excited and nervous.

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I have every faith in her.

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She's...improving with each dress we've had.

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This will be it. This will be the ultimate dress.

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-This is the first time you've been here, Mandy, isn't it?

-It is, yes.

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So I'm glad you've come because I don't want

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none of the mistakes what happened last time because, obviously,

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it's cost-effective for us as well, if we're taking things apart...

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-It's the communication.

-Definitely.

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And by e-mail it's too hard to do.

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So it's good that we've got you here, and what you want,

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and obviously Mandy has a big input into what you should have.

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Well, we were thinking of maybe

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going away from the lighter colours this time.

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Maybe going something warmer

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and then putting the sparkle and bright onto it.

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So, like a warmer bubblegum pink, or something.

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Purple and pink together looks quite good.

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-You could do orange.

-Yeah, you could do.

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I had orange on that one.

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-Really orange, or something...?

-No, bright.

-Bright orange.

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-So do you think a lace over this?

-I think...

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I think I'd like something really different this time.

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-We've done lace.

-Yeah.

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What if we had solid blocks of diamonds and have the rest,

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you know, in orange?

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To be honest, I love the bling.

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OK, let's go for it then. So...

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Getting a new dress is just the biggest stress to me.

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So today I'm very happy that we've spoken about

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the design and the fit, but it's still very stressful.

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I'm excited because I, personally, believe Thelma's dresses

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are improving and I think she will go from strength to strength,

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but she's got to get it right, and that's what it boils down to.

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She's got to get it right.

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It's got to be an Irish dance dress, it hasn't got to be a pretty dress.

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And if she gets it right, then she's got a huge market.

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Thelma has plans to extend her empire,

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and arrives in Athlone to stock her Irish dancing costumes

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in local dress emporium Sindy's Bling,

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where she's greeted by owner Sandrina.

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Hello! Give us a hand, girls.

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This is...

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Oh, my God. How are you?

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Good to see you again.

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Right, I've got all the headdresses and everything there as well.

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-Oh, wow.

-Nice, isn't it?

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Very nice.

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Wow. Some detail in that.

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Isn't there just?

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You can have her as blinged-up as that, which is, like, on the front.

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Or you can go a little less bling,

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if you want to, and have it like that.

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There's a price for everyone. That's what we're trying to say.

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And it's not long before the women welcome their first local customers.

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-Hiya, Valerie.

-Hi.

-Hiya, Mary.

-Hello. Hello, ladies.

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What do you like?

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I like the pink one. Can I try it on?

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THEY LAUGH

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Do you want to try it on, do you?

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I'm sure we can do that for you.

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The two girls are looking for a new costume for Irish dancing,

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and Sandrina had been telling me that Thelma was coming over,

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so no better woman to bling-up the costumes than....

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-And it's a good opportunity to get to talk to her.

-Yeah, exactly.

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A brilliant opportunity.

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Are you ready for this?

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-You ready to see her?

-Yeah.

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-Right, cover your eyes.

-Here we go.

-The big reveal.

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Close your eyes.

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Can we look?

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Wow!

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Do a turn. Spin around for me. Let me...

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Oh, my goodness. Amazing. That is gorgeous.

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It's a little bit big for her.

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-Yes, but it's beautiful.

-Yeah. It's gorgeous.

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I think it's nice because there's loads of diamonds on it

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and because it's pink, and people might be like,

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"Oh, my God. That's a Thelma Madine dress."

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-Will you be able to dance in it?

-Yeah.

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-You going to show us?

-You going to show us how you dance?

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And that's why she's eighth in the world.

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-Seventh.

-Seventh. Oh, sorry, sorry.

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I think definitely it is the next thing that every

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Irish dancing school is going to want to have a Thelma dress.

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There's no two ways about it.

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But Thelma's busy schedule has taken its toll

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on her first Irish dance dress clients.

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It's now only weeks away from the 2015 World Championships,

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and finally Erin has received a template of her new dress.

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Minus the embellishments.

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We've brought the dress in today

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so that Mandy can have a quick look at it.

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Obviously we've tried it on Erin and there are things that

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we know are very obviously wrong.

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She'll dance in it today and show Mandy how the skirt goes,

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how wrong the skirt is.

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Thelma doesn't have an Irish dance background.

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And Thelma's ideas are beautiful,

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but they don't necessarily work for an Irish dance dress and...

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-certainly that would be the case with this skirt.

-Yeah.

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And as Erin attempts to dance,

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it soon becomes apparent just how distracting the skirt is.

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Erin has worked so hard this year,

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she practically is at class five or six times a week.

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Unfortunately, that age group is one of the hardest in the whole

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of the World Championships and that is my concern.

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She needs to have the right look

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so it's just all about her dancing and her performance.

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It feels really awkward, because this,

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because it's too high it feels like I need to keep pulling it down,

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but because there's too much of this, when I kick it's like...

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-stopping me kicking.

-OK, so it's interfering with your dancing?

-Yeah.

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I love the colour on you, it's beautiful.

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We've just got to sort the skirt out,

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and let's hope that she comes up with the goods.

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As always, Thelma's tops are beautiful,

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but the skirts are still not right, in my opinion.

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I still think she needs to work on that,

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but we are running out of time, which is a problem for Erin.

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Two weeks have passed and it's time for the World Championships.

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Thelma arrives with her daughter, Katrina

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and husband, Dave, to set up her first-ever Irish dancing dress stand,

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but is met with a frosty reception.

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When I arrived in Montreal, it was absolutely freezing outside,

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but I can swear, when we went in that hall, it was below freezing.

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I mean, the icy stares I was getting was unbelievable.

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Undeterred, Thelma is determined to upstage the competition.

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That's it.

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I was going to try and make it like a boudoir-type scene.

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You know, with the shades and... You know, just to make it look

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a little bit more inviting for people to come on.

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But it's not long before

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her neighbouring stallholders start to get worried.

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I just want to make sure you're not putting a wall here.

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-No.

-Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

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Looks like we're not putting a wall up there now.

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Thelma soon discovers that archrival Gavin Doherty's stand is nearby.

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Don't be looking in from there. Oh, God. You know what?

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I know, I'll look through the curtains and see.

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No, I can see the stand.

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I mean, bloody hell.

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I love me, who do I love? Look at the stand.

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If he was chocolate, he'd eat himself.

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Having never met Gavin before,

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Thelma is quick to introduce herself.

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-Hiya.

-How's things?

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-Pleased to meet you.

-You too. How's it going?

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-OK, I think. I don't know, it's a little bit overpowering, isn't it?

-Yeah, yeah.

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No, I do. I love your dresses, they are really, really nice.

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Thank you very much. Yours look really nice as well.

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I want you to come over and have a look and give me your honest opinion.

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Oh, yeah. Not a problem at all.

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-Because people tell you rules and things you can't do, things you can do.

-Totally.

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Do you know what? There's plenty of work for all of us.

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There's thousands upon thousands of kids dancing. So, really, it's not a big deal at all.

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-You've been doing this a long time, haven't you?

-Too long.

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-How long have you been doing it?

-About...15 years.

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-I'd love you to come over and just give me...

-Oh, definitely.

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We'll even grab a drink and stuff later on anyway.

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Yeah, we will. Definitely. OK, all right, love. Bye.

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I think whenever people heard Thelma was making Irish dancing costumes, it did create some ripples.

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It's the fear of portraying Irish dancing as something that

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it's not, and making it like it's the Toddlers in Tiaras.

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That's it's all about the look, and it's not all about the look.

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You know, we teach these kids day after day, night after night, in class.

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They don't wear costumes. When the World Championships were in Glasgow

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the last time, there was a write-up in one of the papers

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that was vile about children -

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that they look like mini-transvestites

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and things like that.

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And that's not what we want for this organisation

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or for Irish dancing in general.

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And I think people were maybe stand-offish from Thelma

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at the beginning because they were worried it was going to

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portray Irish dancing in a bad light, and that's certainly not what

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I would ever want to see happen.

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As the crowds roll in,

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Thelma's eye-catching dresses are receiving a mixed reaction.

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Er... Wouldn't be something I would want

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to put my daughter in, in all honesty.

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They don't look to me like dresses

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that you would be comfortable to actually wear for competition.

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More maybe for a fashion show type thing, but not for competition.

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If they saw a world champion wearing a dress like that,

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everyone would probably want one.

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Just like with, like, movie stars and stuff,

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when they advertise a product, you obviously want to get it,

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because, you know, famous people, they're getting it,

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so why don't I get it?

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Yeah. If they win, everybody would start getting them.

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Me and my parents talked about this last night.

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If we were really rich, we would, like,

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buy one just to show it to our teacher

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for, like, a prank or something.

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Like, "Hey, hello, Miss Anya. How do you like our new dress?"

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She would have a conniption. She would probably pass out.

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Thelma's unique selling point is her bling.

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From all the dresses I've seen,

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I think she definitely does the bling factor the best.

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I would certainly, being honest,

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hate to see one of those dresses on the world stage,

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because I think Irish dancing has been

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-criticised in recent years...

-Just for the wigs.

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..in going away from tradition.

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So I think if we went down that road we would only be taking

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so many steps back away from promoting Irish dancing

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as what it is, which is Irish.

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And while the crowd seems bemused by Thelma's designs,

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she is taken aback by some of Gavin's newest looks.

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I was going to go and have another little look around

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but I can't believe what I've actually just seen there.

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There's actually flashing lights on the dresses.

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I should just go over and say, "Oh, darling, it's so last year."

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Oh.

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Next morning, Erin has been for a spray tan

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and is going through her steps with Mandy.

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-You all right?

-Yeah.

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I'm nervous, but in a kind of positive way.

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I mean, she's ready, she's worked so hard for it.

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Still, in the back of my mind, I worry that she's a bit tired.

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You know, jet lag and all that.

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Don't move too far.

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She's got as best a chance as any of them.

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It just depends on the day how they all perform and how it comes across.

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So we'll see.

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Meanwhile, Thelma's presence at the World Championships

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continues to attract attention.

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-Done.

-Thank you so much. Thanks a million.

-You're welcome.

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Children have come up to her there

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and asked for a photograph with her, and I said,

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"I presume that's cos you're a film star,

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"rather than a dressmaker, you know?"

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But the standard of the dancing is exceptional now.

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And if you have 150 girls in there

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and there's very little between them,

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so they're trying to make themselves stand out somehow.

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Backstage, Erin Cooke is well aware of the need to make

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a first impression, as she prepares to reveal

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an entirely new look to the world.

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The dress looked just beautiful. Yeah, everything.

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It needs that stage. It needs, you know, the big stage

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and the lights and everything to get the real effect of it.

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Everything just sat right. Everything... Yeah.

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Meanwhile, Dave is manning the stall and is doing his best to stay busy.

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You don't really want to know.

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I'm looking at golf clubs here, but...

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But he's interrupted by a customer

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who's keen to find out more about the dresses.

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And does it come fully stoned, or is that all extra?

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That one, as it is now, is about 750.

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-Excellent.

-We're doing quite well.

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There's a lot of interest here and whatever.

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I'm doing quite well, as a builder goes.

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Having completed two rounds,

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Erin nervously waits to hear if she's been recalled.

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-'160. 162.'

-Yes!

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'164. 165.'

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It's just unbelievable.

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This is like a whole sea of emotion.

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I mean, this is the pinnacle of their year.

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And they don't just dance, they actually live the dancing.

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That's their life. And you can just see so many emotions.

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My heart wouldn't take it, I couldn't do this.

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Meanwhile, Thelma has made a discovery that she's not happy about.

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Just totally pissed off this morning

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because as a marketing exercise, I've been asking all the people

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who have flown through here to, with the chance of winning a dress,

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but really what I want to do is get all their details,

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where they got their last dress, just things like that.

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And four of them who've just came back just said,

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"We don't have a choice where we get our dress from."

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The school, the dance teacher, tells them where to get their dress from.

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I thought it was democratic.

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It's absolutely ridiculous,

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I've never heard anything like it in my life.

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Erin is awaiting the results for her age group,

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but soon realises that she's in the wrong hall.

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The London group rush off to the neighbouring auditorium

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and arrive just in time to hear Erin's result.

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'In 11th place, Sadie Bucknam. Murray Academy, New England.'

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'12th place was Erin Grace Cooke...'

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'In 13th place was Caitlin Marani...'

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Erin's position of 12th place

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puts her first out of the London dancers in her age group.

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'From the Hennigan School, Southern region of England, Erin Grace Cook.'

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APPLAUSE

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From the Dillon Magh Adhair School, Western region USA, Caitlin Marani.

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'One, two, three.

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'Thank you, all.'

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And Erin's not the only one taking to the stage.

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Thelma has been asked to present prizes to the 15 to 16-year-olds,

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and it's whet her appetite for future ambitions.

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Coming to Montreal has definitely moved me forward. Definitely.

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But the biggest thing in this world

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is to get a champion wearing one of your dresses,

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because to see that champion on the podium, holding that cup up,

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every other kid watching that is going to want that dress,

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or a dress similar to that.

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And I would love to make a dress for a champion.

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Next day, it's business as usual for most of the other dressmakers.

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But Thelma is nowhere to be seen,

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leaving her competitors speculating.

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I'm not sure why Thelma left early. She seemed to pack up yesterday.

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I'm not sure whether she had already planned to go early or

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she wasn't getting the reception she had maybe hoped for.

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I'm not sure how many kids here were wearing Thelma's

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dresses at the World Championships,

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but I don't think we've lost any customers to her this week.

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I think her dress designs are very unique.

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They mightn't be everybody's cup of tea,

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but I'm sure they will appeal to some dancers.

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And she just really needs to be around the dancing scene

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to see what the people want and what they don't want.

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But despite her early departure,

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Thelma remains committed to the new business,

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and leaves her naysayers with a strong parting message.

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To the other people who think if they make it difficult for me,

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that I'm going to go away -

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well, they're out of luck, because I'm not going anywhere.

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I'm staying here,

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and I'll be back next year and the year after and the year after.

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