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Jhumpa Lahiri has been garlanded with critical success and prizes | :00:00. | :00:25. | |
since her first collection of short stories. Her reputation rests on | :00:25. | :00:31. | |
quiet, that ticket only observed stories about Indian immigrants | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
adjusting to their new lives in stories about Indian immigrants | :00:32. | :00:38. | |
US. She is dedicated to the craft of writing to the point of sacredness | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
and she creates characters who are hard to forget. Jhumpa Lahiri, | :00:42. | :00:52. | |
welcome to Tour. Thank you. Your literary career is based on your | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
interest in occupation in writing about families and relationships in | :00:55. | :01:01. | |
that. Quite often, characters in consciousness. A pressure to be | :01:01. | :01:07. | |
that. Quite often, characters in things at the same time. To be loyal | :01:07. | :01:07. | |
to the old world — India — free things at the same time. To be loyal | :01:07. | :01:15. | |
the new one, America. I am aware that the questions that you ask | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
the new one, America. I am aware way beyond your experience but I | :01:19. | :01:19. | |
also assume that the German for way beyond your experience but I | :01:19. | :01:25. | |
London? Very much so. I always felt is your experience as the daughter | :01:25. | :01:40. | |
London? Very much so. I always felt person, as a child, very much, it | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
frustrated me. It is something I continue to feel as an adult but I | :01:47. | :01:54. | |
write about. I think it is something think, now that I am also a writer, | :01:54. | :02:09. | |
write about. I think it is something quite universal — that sense of | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
division and sent of betraying a part of yourself or people you love | :02:10. | :02:16. | |
in order to forge a new identity. collection, Interpreter of Maladies. | :02:16. | :02:26. | |
What was extraordinary for me was that there was a quietness to them | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
which is to do with your style of writing which we will talk about. At | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
the heart of the stories, there writing which we will talk about. At | :02:32. | :02:41. | |
quite explosive events. What happens of these relationships — secrets and | :02:41. | :02:49. | |
not told all talked about in the first story, a couple talking about | :02:49. | :02:54. | |
the loss of the child. A woman in the title story, Interpreter of | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
Maladies, revealing the secrecy the title story, Interpreter of | :02:57. | :03:03. | |
the paternity to a complete stranger who is besotted with her. This idea | :03:03. | :03:10. | |
of the explosions that occur within human relationships is something | :03:10. | :03:14. | |
that you are drawn to. Can you say something about that? Writers are | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
drawn to these moments that are something about that? Writers are | :03:17. | :03:30. | |
resonant in the context of ordinary lives. It is not always dramatic | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
revelations can take place. The events where things can happen, | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
revelations can take place. The profound decisions can be made. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
revelations can take place. The found moments of clarity, lucidity, | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
ordinary moments and that interests can happen in subtle moments or | :03:46. | :03:50. | |
ordinary moments and that interests me. There is something that writers | :03:50. | :03:50. | |
are always looking for — locating me. There is something that writers | :03:50. | :04:00. | |
are always looking for — locating to do... It feeds very well into | :04:00. | :04:01. | |
your preoccupation with what happens to people who are dealing with one | :04:01. | :04:12. | |
culture and imposing another one on it? I am interested in it the lack | :04:12. | :04:15. | |
of community and the search for daughter of immigrants, I was keenly | :04:15. | :04:23. | |
aware of how hard my parents had to building one person at a time — | :04:23. | :04:32. | |
literally. My memories begin in iLife in the US but I know they | :04:32. | :04:39. | |
literally. My memories begin in through that here as well. The Thais | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
that they created in the new world. —— the relationships. What it meant | :04:43. | :04:49. | |
to them to have something or someone lend a room or cook a meal or invite | :04:49. | :04:55. | |
them over for supper. These things took on meaning and resonance that | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
have lasted for half a century. These are things that I will never | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
forget. When they moved to America, when I was two, they went through | :05:05. | :05:12. | |
this process again. And that I remember more clearly. How few their | :05:12. | :05:20. | |
friends were at the beginning. Just how you could count on one hand | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
friends were at the beginning. Just people they knew and trusted and | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
could speak to in their language. Slowly, that grew and I witnessed | :05:25. | :05:33. | |
that process. It fascinated me Slowly, that grew and I witnessed | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
that process. It fascinated me because I knew that each person | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
owned in some way. —— earned. Can owned. Each point in connection | :05:39. | :05:51. | |
owned in some way. —— earned. Can you say something about chronicling | :05:51. | :06:01. | |
matters. Well, I think otherwise life... What is it that? I feel | :06:01. | :06:09. | |
matters. Well, I think otherwise has to hold on to certain things | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
because there is so much of that is happening and it is all slipping | :06:14. | :06:20. | |
course, but when you write something away. I think writing is away to | :06:20. | :06:26. | |
course, but when you write something you enter into a finite, it temporal | :06:26. | :06:27. | |
space. A story may take an hour you enter into a finite, it temporal | :06:27. | :06:34. | |
12 hours or 12 days or 12 years you enter into a finite, it temporal | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
112 years — whatever ditties — there is a beginning, a middle, and end. | :06:37. | :06:42. | |
It is an artificial construct — fiction. I think it is a way to | :06:42. | :06:49. | |
isolate time, to isolate experience, In, it is not meant to chronicle | :06:49. | :06:57. | |
anything in that it is not true In, it is not meant to chronicle | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
accurate, what I am writing, they are stories and they are inventions | :07:02. | :07:08. | |
and they are all sorts of filters so it's not that I don't feel I am | :07:08. | :07:14. | |
documenting anything but in a way, yes, in my own imagined, invented | :07:14. | :07:23. | |
way, I do feel that I was compelled to document certain aspects of my | :07:23. | :07:36. | |
family's arrival and slow process of settling into a new world. I was at | :07:36. | :07:45. | |
Interpreter of Maladies, in the context of your fourth book, The | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
generational saga but rooted in context of your fourth book, The | :07:48. | :07:56. | |
at varying revolution in India. politics of India and the politics | :07:56. | :08:09. | |
at varying revolution in India. There is. I thought, this is a germ | :08:09. | :08:10. | |
Brothers is executed by the State There is. I thought, this is a germ | :08:10. | :08:36. | |
Brothers is executed by the State and consequently that people react | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
to and describe their feelings about that then and how it impacts on | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
to and describe their feelings about other characters. I wonder if you | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
could say a little bit first about that social and political context. | :08:46. | :08:53. | |
Why you were keen to look at that? I think that The Namesake similarly | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
something I felt at once close to and extremely removed from and | :08:58. | :09:08. | |
Ingrid. In that this execution that I... That inspired the novel really | :09:08. | :09:16. | |
did happen. —— removed from and ignorant. It was very close to my | :09:16. | :09:22. | |
paternal homes that it happen. I heard about it — the same period, | :09:23. | :09:29. | |
1971 that a lot of things obviously were happening around those years | :09:29. | :09:35. | |
but the point is, I felt that on the one hand, so very, very ignorant of | :09:35. | :09:46. | |
this powerful, violent disturbing upsetting things on the other side | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
of the world but not just any other side of the world but the other | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
of the world but not just any other of the world with a precise place | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
without my parents came from and what they left behind in a place | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
that I was continually visiting throughout my life as well. When I | :10:01. | :10:09. | |
picture the neighbourhood — I know me could teach it because I was | :10:09. | :10:15. | |
picture the neighbourhood — I know the neighbourhood, I spent months a | :10:15. | :10:22. | |
key related months, years perhaps, in that neighbourhood at this point | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
— so I felt at once close and far and I wanted to know what had led to | :10:27. | :10:32. | |
this execution and why. What was the and I wanted to know what had led to | :10:32. | :10:44. | |
this execution and why. What was the something so horrific — a young | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
this execution and why. What was the 's execution, a family lined up | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
this execution and why. What was the watch. I wanted to ask about the | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
silence that create a pit to killer atmosphere in families. The real | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
terms to discuss things. Why is atmosphere in families. The real | :10:56. | :11:02. | |
something that has become so potent in your novels? It feels like it | :11:02. | :11:08. | |
drives the atmosphere so powerfully. I do not know. I am interested in | :11:08. | :11:17. | |
communications, I think, and the difficulties, the challenges that it | :11:17. | :11:25. | |
will have, especially in intimate relationships — big Dave romantic or | :11:25. | :11:35. | |
romantic or familial. I was very, very big like and and scared, I | :11:35. | :11:42. | |
romantic or familial. I was very, a very shy child, extremely shy | :11:42. | :11:42. | |
child, and I was very connected a very shy child, extremely shy | :11:42. | :11:52. | |
my parents and they were sort of all they knew — they were my world and | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
it was hard for me to make friends at school. It was hard for me to | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
trust other people when I was a at school. It was hard for me to | :12:00. | :12:06. | |
trust other people when I was a young. And I do not know why that | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
is. I need to know, in a way, but it did lead the two books and books led | :12:10. | :12:16. | |
me to writing and when I started writing, which I started as a very | :12:16. | :12:28. | |
younger girl, it was a form of both companionship and filling in for the | :12:28. | :12:28. | |
friends that were not about. And companionship and filling in for the | :12:28. | :12:38. | |
friends that were not about. And fundamental to me. The world of | :12:38. | :12:38. | |
books and learning is central to fundamental to me. The world of | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
books and learning is central to characters are often academics or | :12:43. | :13:00. | |
Lahiri's The Namesake is that a couple marries and it is the wife | :13:01. | :13:07. | |
pursues an academic career at the expense of her family, it has to be | :13:07. | :13:09. | |
said. That world of academia is expense of her family, it has to be | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
that is captured remarkably well. I feel these are people that even | :13:15. | :13:19. | |
though I do not know that many academics, I feel they are kind | :13:19. | :13:23. | |
though I do not know that many howls of mine. I wonder how you | :13:23. | :13:32. | |
though I do not know that many really, really well? The campus | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
though I do not know that many the University of Rhode Island was a | :13:34. | :13:40. | |
sort of playground, my open space. I think that it has a particular | :13:40. | :13:47. | |
significance for me I suppose for my entire family, because I think for | :13:48. | :13:56. | |
an immigrant, because when one legitimate reason to be there, there | :13:56. | :14:03. | |
are no connection, there is no family, there is no history, there | :14:03. | :14:09. | |
is no past, you know, you just arrived and you have to move forward | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
that there is nothing in it the arrived and you have to move forward | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
will stop there is no back. And arrived and you have to move forward | :14:16. | :14:23. | |
Rhode Island, this was the one thing the work that one does, in my family | :14:23. | :14:33. | |
I felt they gave my family are real I felt they gave my family are | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
legitimacy because I knew that somewhere in the back of my mind we | :14:39. | :14:39. | |
were there because my father did somewhere in the back of my mind we | :14:39. | :14:49. | |
were there because my father did important in that place. And that | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
was the sole link, in a way, because otherwise you live in this world in | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
memory is at least — the presence of otherwise you live in this world in | :14:56. | :15:08. | |
memory is at least — the presence of my family was either not recognise | :15:08. | :15:08. | |
or actively questioned sort of, my family was either not recognise | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
AU doing here is Mac why are you even to remember that. I was aware | :15:13. | :15:24. | |
of the lack of connection and I even to remember that. I was aware | :15:24. | :15:28. | |
very aware of the lack of past, even to remember that. I was aware | :15:29. | :15:30. | |
history, both personal history, even to remember that. I was aware | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
more general history. I was acutely aware of that. Because my parents | :15:35. | :15:44. | |
had lived a very intense history. independence, my father was born in | :15:44. | :15:55. | |
1931 and left India in 1964. Those were extraordinary years in Indian | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
history. Let's talk about your first novel. The central idea behind it, | :15:59. | :16:12. | |
it is to do with the tension between an old culture and getting used | :16:12. | :16:17. | |
it is to do with the tension between new one, and it is embodied in the | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
name. The two main characters give to the protagonist in this story. | :16:19. | :16:26. | |
There is a distinction in Ben Cawley culture between a pet name and your | :16:26. | :16:32. | |
good name. Your name is your pet name, isn't it? Is that what made | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
you think you wanted to explore name, isn't it? Is that what made | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
through the central idea? In fact, no, the seed for that book was a boy | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
I met once. In Calcutta. The name no, the seed for that book was a boy | :16:43. | :16:55. | |
I met once. In Calcutta. The name struck me. I wanted to know why | :16:55. | :17:01. | |
I met once. In Calcutta. The name that. That was the seed for the | :17:01. | :17:02. | |
that material, the boy was a boy that. That was the seed for the | :17:02. | :17:18. | |
that material, the boy was a boy born and raised in Calcutta, and | :17:18. | :17:19. | |
eventually that changed, and he became a born —— K Boyd warned and | :17:19. | :17:26. | |
raised in America. That added a whole new dimension and tensions to | :17:26. | :17:35. | |
the story. In that sense, ES, the competitions of naming, the fact | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
that my pet name became my good competitions of naming, the fact | :17:38. | :17:44. | |
by a series of strange mishaps and Miss Communications. What is your | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
good name? I have to. My mother Miss Communications. What is your | :17:47. | :17:55. | |
I was born, in the hospital, the city of London maternity Hospital, | :17:55. | :18:02. | |
was unable to choose between the two considering. So she put both of | :18:02. | :18:22. | |
certificate. It is a very long official name. When my sister was | :18:22. | :18:29. | |
born, my younger sister, my mother mistake and the confused in the | :18:29. | :18:38. | |
born, my younger sister, my mother way, so she had it all set. So my | :18:38. | :18:39. | |
has the good name and the pet name, character in the novel, in that | :18:39. | :18:49. | |
has the good name and the pet name, and feels, as do so many of my | :18:49. | :18:57. | |
parents' friends children, the acute by vocation in terms of their very | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
world of their family, the world pet name being used at home, by | :19:01. | :19:10. | |
world of their family, the world that their family creates, and | :19:10. | :19:16. | |
thinking about those names in the having a good name in school, in the | :19:16. | :19:26. | |
thinking about those names in the beginning, I was thinking about | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
thinking about those names in the name go—go, and why a boy would | :19:28. | :19:36. | |
thinking about those names in the that name. We should tell the reason | :19:36. | :19:37. | |
why the character in the book has the name is because his father was | :19:37. | :19:50. | |
was holding a book by the Russian writer go—go, and when the book | :19:50. | :20:00. | |
There is a poignancy at the heart of the relationship that you convey in | :20:00. | :20:07. | |
this story. It is lot about seeing for me, there is also a sense of | :20:07. | :20:13. | |
being in a room that is dark and sensing something, and feeling your | :20:13. | :20:15. | |
way around until you locate it. sensing something, and feeling your | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
is a process of locating and then seeing, and what I am trying to | :20:21. | :20:30. | |
is a process of locating and then Thereunder any great writers who are | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
not voracious readers, and I know that you are. I wonder if you could | :20:32. | :20:34. | |
say a bit about the writers who that you are. I wonder if you could | :20:34. | :20:40. | |
even. I certainly turned to writers turn to for reassurance, or confit | :20:40. | :20:47. | |
even. I certainly turned to writers for those things. But also as a | :20:47. | :20:48. | |
guidance. For instruction. I would for those things. But also as a | :20:48. | :20:59. | |
guidance. For instruction. I would say, in terms of short stories, | :20:59. | :21:04. | |
guidance. For instruction. I would have been enormously grateful for | :21:04. | :21:04. | |
is an essential writer for me. With have been enormously grateful for | :21:04. | :21:25. | |
was Thomas Hardy. I read and reread have been enormously grateful for | :21:25. | :21:38. | |
book, I felt somehow that I just needed to be immersed in his world | :21:38. | :21:38. | |
and his novels. I had read him, needed to be immersed in his world | :21:38. | :21:50. | |
course, years ago and I have always loved his work very much. But with | :21:50. | :21:56. | |
this book, I felt that somehow reading and rereading his novels | :21:56. | :22:02. | |
while I was writing the book made it seem possible, that I could write | :22:02. | :22:08. | |
impossible for a long time. So I was grateful for that. You enjoy that | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
success immediately, as soon as grateful for that. You enjoy that | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
collection of short stories one grateful for that. You enjoy that | :22:18. | :22:23. | |
the Pulitzer Prize. I wonder whether you are more at ease with it now. I | :22:23. | :22:36. | |
felt then, as I feel now, I feel detached. I feel grateful because it | :22:36. | :22:44. | |
has enabled me to continue writing difficult for me. But apart from | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
unrecognised. It is essential for that, I feel very strongly that | :22:50. | :23:13. | |
unrecognised. It is essential for say. It is the only way it can | :23:13. | :23:13. | |
all comes from. I know that is where say. It is the only way it can | :23:13. | :23:31. | |
all comes from. I know that is where it comes from. And so I have to | :23:31. | :23:39. | |
maintain that distance. If a book is celebrated all well received, I | :23:39. | :23:39. | |
book. When the book is done, and celebrated all well received, I | :23:39. | :23:46. | |
book. When the book is done, and those things can only come when | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
book. When the book is done, and book is done, I go back to doing | :23:48. | :23:55. | |
what I do. That is thinking, and ideally, writing. And that process | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
requires a very different state ideally, writing. And that process | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
mind. A very different state of mind. And I have to maintain a very | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
clear distinction between those mind. And I have to maintain a very | :24:07. | :24:10. |