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I was born in Omagh in County Tyrone in 1929. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
I'm married. I have five children. I live in the country. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
I smoke too much. I fish a bit. I read a lot. I worry a lot. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:27 | |
I get involved in sporadic causes | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
and invariably regret the involvement. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
And I hope that, between now and my death, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
I will have acquired a religion or a philosophy, or sense of life, | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
that will make the end less frightening | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
than it appears to me at this moment. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
When I was a boy, we always spent a portion of our summer holidays | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
in my mother's old home | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
near the village of Glenties, in County Donegal. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
I have memories of those holidays that are as pellucid, as intense, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:26 | |
as if they happened last week. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
I remember in detail the shape of cups hanging in the scullery, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
the pattern of flags on the kitchen floor, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
every knot of wood on the wooden stairway, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
every door handle, every smell, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
the shape and texture of every tree around the place. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
This is Glenties, County Donegal, | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
Brian Friel's spiritual home. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
It inspired his fictional Ballybeg, | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
the location for many of his plays, | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
including Philadelphia, Here I Come, | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
Translations and Dancing At Lughnasa. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
This place is now as rooted in global theatrical history | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
as Chekhov's provincial Russia | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
or Tennessee Williams's southern states of America. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
Tonight, we remember this extraordinary writer | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
and most private of men, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
who chose Ballybeg as his final resting place. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
But from Glenties to the Guildhall, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
where Irish theatre history was made in September 1980. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
Field Day Theatre Company | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
was co-founded by Brian Friel and actor Stephen Rea. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Their first production was the now classic Friel play, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
Translations, starring Stephen Rea and a young Liam Neeson. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
It has been said that it was not so much a premiere | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
as the initiation of a movement. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
Can you remember the first time you met Brian? | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
Yes. It was at the Royal Court Theatre in London. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
We were doing Freedom Of The City, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
Brian's play, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
that was provoked by the events of Bloody Sunday | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
and Albert Finney directed it | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
and Brian came over for rehearsals. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
And that's when I first met him. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
And we hit it off, you know? | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
He was very brotherly, paternal, whatever. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
There was an obvious connection. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
And, seven years later, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
you co-found Field Day Theatre Company. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Where did the idea come from? | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
It was very simple - someone in the Arts Council, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Imelda Foley from Derry, | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
told me there was some money knocking about | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
and would I like to use it? | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
And so you asked him to write a play which then became Translations? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
Yeah. I think he was working on it. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
I think he said, "I'm working on a play about the place names." | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
But he very quickly just said OK. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
-And that's all it took, really. -And was it a one-off? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
Did you ever imagine that it would become a theatre company, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
there would be a board, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
there would be all that stuff that goes with? | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
No - all of that happened incrementally. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Just... It didn't happen... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:21 | |
There was no agenda, there was no plan, it was just... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
We did a play and then we thought, "Well, we'll do another play." | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
Did your friendship then, with Brian, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
was it really forged during those Field Day years? | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
Yes. It's what Seamus Deane called "amicitia", you know? | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
It was friendship within a project. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
But there was something about that connection with you and Brian | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
that seemed to transcend the project base. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
I think it was the... | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
..the sense of how important it was to be doing what we were doing | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
and the sense of responsibility and...the sheer pleasure, as well. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:06 | |
He was a dear, dear friend | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
and...had more influence on me than anyone else and... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
He had an immense kindness, an immense generosity. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
I have attempted to hold together | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
a harassed and a confused people | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
by trying to keep them in touch with the life they knew | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
before they were overrun. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
Did he shape you as an actor? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
Do you think that the actor you are now is because of him? | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
All good writing shapes you as an actor. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
Great writing, God knows... Yeah. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
I've been lucky to be connected with some writers. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Brian had a huge influence on me, not just... | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
As a writer, of course, and as a man, but... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
His whole philosophy, his whole perception, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
was a constant learning experience for me. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
When Field Day was formed, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
and I sat at a table | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
with Heaney and Seamus Deane | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
and Brian and Tom Paulin and Tom Kilroy, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
I just sat there and drank it in, you know? | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Because the level that they were at was so...astounding, you know? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:23 | |
At the time of Brian's death, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
you called him "a shy man and a showman". | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Why do you think he pulled back from the media so much? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:32 | |
I don't know, because he was willing enough at a certain point, | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
and he was very chippy and bright and cheeky. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:42 | |
But in himself, he was a very shy man. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
That's why all the plays, the great instruments of theatre... | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
He doesn't get so hung up on something | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
that it's not going to work. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
He makes sure that the play works, you know? | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
It's a rare talent, you know, because all the plays work. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
How will you remember him? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
I remember him always being...irreverent. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
He'd always do this gesture of cheek and defiance, which was kind of... | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
You know? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:20 | |
Kind of, having a go at people. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
In my view, he was a majestic figure. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
The work is devoted to an understanding | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
of our particular...sensibilities | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
and...the tragic distance that there has been between people. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:43 | |
He was great. He was not impressed by anything. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
-He was fearless. -I think he was fearless, yeah. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:50 | |
And... | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
You know? He was theatre. He was theatre. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
The playwright is never fully his own man. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
The playwright requires interpreters. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Without actors, and without a performance, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
his manuscript is a lifeless literary exercise, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
a kite without wind, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
a boat waiting for a tide. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
And the day he completes his script, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
he has won a battle and takes on a war. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
While Field Day's impact was arguably global, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
its base was here in Derry, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
and its administration team was local - | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
something that was important to Friel. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
Colette Nelis ran the office day-to-day, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
where I first got to know her when I worked for Field Day | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
as a student volunteer. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
My job basically was, kind of, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
all the administration that was involved in the background, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
you know - things like organising the accommodation | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
for the actors in the production. Basically... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
going out to the venues, | 0:09:08 | 0:09:09 | |
and if there was no box office, setting a box office up. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
That was the thrill of Field Day, and working with Brian. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
He would have been very involved in everything that was going on. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
Everything was done locally - the Guildhall staff, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
everything was sourced... | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
Everything was sourced here and there was a policy | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
when it came to, kind of, paying bills and things like that, | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
the small, independent person was paid first. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
There was a real honesty and commitment of the man. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
You must have also had to field people, you know, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
wanting to have conversations with Brian. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Brian was very protective of his privacy, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
but I think that was born of either misrepresentation | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
or just a bad experience with the press. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
So I think he felt the safest way was to stay clear. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
Colette, it's lovely to be sitting here | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
in the Guildhall with you again. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
Everything happened here. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
This was so central to Field Day | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
and the memories of Brian and Stephen sitting in | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
on all of the productions. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Does she know Latin? Is she certain of the words? | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
Very little, very, very little. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
I think, in act one, we have got the three words | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
and I think, in this case, you're really inventing it as bog Latin. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
'They are incredible memories and also I remember' | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
the kindness of Brian Friel to me, as well, as a young person. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:30 | |
Yes, but that was the mark of who Brian was. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:35 | |
He was very caring of the individual. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
I often felt that I wasn't a person | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
that did the administration at Field Day, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
I was THE person and, to me, that was very different. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:48 | |
He cared about the individual. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
I think of the famous parties of Field Day | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
in the Guildhall at opening nights. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
The City Council very much decided who was invited | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
and I was placed at the door and I had to kind of turn people away. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:07 | |
Brian was in there, but noticed I wasn't and came out and said, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:13 | |
"That's not what my staff are here for. Colette, come inside." | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Come in and enjoy the party. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
Come in and enjoy the party, you know, and that is Brian Friel. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
To me, he was a gentleman in every sense of that word. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
The pain or the pleasure the writer experiences | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
depends on his attitude to his director and to his actors. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
Actors are a very special people. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
All the things that most people dislike in them, I find fascinating. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
But I have yet to meet the director or actor who wouldn't casually | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
paraphrase lines of dialogue or indeed transpose whole scenes, | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
hence the war or at least the twitching truce. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
Friel was renowned as a tough taskmaster. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
He didn't like directors changing any dialogue | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
and likened his works to an orchestral score, saying, | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
"Would a conductor change the music of a composer?" | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
But directors loved working with him and he chose them carefully, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
including Joe Dowling, Patrick Mason and Mick Gordon. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
Actor-director Adrian Dunbar was another. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
How hands-on was he? Would he come into rehearsals and sit in on them? | 0:12:29 | 0:12:34 | |
I directed Philadelphia, Here I Come! up in Derry | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
and I was lucky I was directing it in Derry because it meant | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
that Brian was able to come and be very hands-on with us | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
and actually come and see a little bit of rehearsals | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
and make sure we were on the right road, which was great | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
because it's fabulous, the relationship between the writer | 0:12:49 | 0:12:54 | |
and the actor, of course, and he was very encouraging towards | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
the actors, which really helped me, of course, as a director. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
He was very thorough and very rigorous | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
and didn't stand any frivolity. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
He was a very thorough person. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
I'd have to go up to Greencastle and give him reports. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
This is the schoolteacher in him, you had to give him a report? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Yes, I had to report to him | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
and he very quickly would see through | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
if you really hadn't got a pile done and would express that, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
telling you that you're really no further on and... | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
You didn't want any of those conversations, did you? | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
No, no, it was a couple of times I went up | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
and I really hadn't got far enough down the line | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
and I used to try and dress it up as positively as I could, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
but Brian of course was able to see through all that | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
and you had to be on top of your game to work with him | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
and of course, like all great people, all the standards | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
rose around him when you started to engage with him and his work. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
Appearances can be deceptive, Matthew, can't they? | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
I mean, you look at DCI Gates - a very admirable individual, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
a devoted family man, officer of the year. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
You admire him, don't you, Matthew? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
'We know you as an actor probably more so than a director, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
'but you never acted in any of Friel's plays.' | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
No, I didn't. I never got... Well, I did get the chance. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
I remember Stephen Rea calling me one time | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
when I was doing a lot of TV in the UK and, to a certain extent, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:32 | |
that's the reason why I went back to working on Brian's plays | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
because I realised that there was a huge part | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
of my own creative journey that I was missing. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
And of course I regretted it some years later | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
'so when I got the chance to re-engage with Brian's work, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
'it was like someone giving me a gift that I could come back to.' | 0:14:50 | 0:14:55 | |
But I can still go and do Brian's plays. I still think I will. | 0:14:55 | 0:15:01 | |
That's the wonderful thing about being an actor - you can still | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
engage with Chekhov and you can still engage with Ibsen and Turgenev | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
and all these people and you'll still be able to engage with Brian. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Do you think he was a genius? | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Yeah, yes, I do, of course I think he was a genius. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
You can't write that many plays, do that many translations, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:25 | |
have so much success in what must be | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
one of the most difficult art forms to achieve success in. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
Way before everybody else understood what a genius Brian Friel was, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:38 | |
the actors already knew because they were speaking his words, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
they were inhabiting his characters. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
They could see the depth and the scope of what he was doing, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
I think, and they were responding to it in a very immediate way. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
So, yeah, the game is always upped when a genius is around. | 0:15:53 | 0:16:00 | |
He just lifts all our consciousness, if you like. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
So, yes, Brian's a genius and now that he's left us, of course, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
we recognise even more what a genius he was. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
It was here at the Abbey Theatre in 1962 | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
that Brian Friel's first stage play, The Enemy Within, was premiered. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Other premieres would follow, including The Freedom Of The City, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
Aristocrats and, most famously, Dancing At Lughnasa. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
Playwright Tom Kilroy, a fellow Field Day board member, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
was a lifelong friend of Friel's, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
spending family holidays together and sharing works in progress. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:52 | |
Tom, when did you first meet Brian? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:54 | |
We met in 1969 in Mary Lavin's house in County Meath. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:04 | |
It was one of those dinner parties | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
that Mary gave to bring writers together. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
So that was my first contact with him | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
and that was the night I heard that voice for the first time, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
you know, that wonderful storytelling voice. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
Then, over the decades, the relationship developed. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
It took many shapes. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
We were in and out of one another's homes | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
and there were all those letters, phone calls. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
He was full of gossip and mischief | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
and all of those qualities which made him endearing. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
Like Mr Beckett, he was a master of the postcard | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
and he sent these postcards with hilarious one-liners on them. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:50 | |
They came through the letterbox like a blast of laughter. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
You also shared works in progress. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
You sent him drafts of your plays and he sent his to you. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:05 | |
Yeah, I saw early drafts of Faith Healer | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
and I saw early drafts of Translations | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
and I remember getting Translations in an early draft, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
reading it and thinking, "My God, that's an extraordinary scene | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
"between that young couple, but it'll never work on stage." | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
So I remember writing to him, saying, "This can't work," | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
and he said, "Dear boy, believe me, this WILL work!" | 0:18:28 | 0:18:32 | |
So he was of course right. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
He had a light-hearted approach to the making of art | 0:18:35 | 0:18:41 | |
and he had very little time for pretension, | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
for any kind of phoniness in attitudes | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
and he cut through that with great clarity and I think, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:56 | |
for that reason, he was a very easy man | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
to communicate with about his own work. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
You say that you got an early draft of Translations | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
-and that was the beginning of Field Day Theatre Company. -Yes. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
And he then invited you to sit on the board of Field Day. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
Yes, I was very moved by the situation in the North, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:19 | |
you know, the deep suffering of all kinds of people | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
and how could this be alleviated, how could you contribute something. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:29 | |
Maybe through theatre or through art, which would make hope possible. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:34 | |
And I was fascinated by that | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
and I jumped at the chance of going on the board and, of course, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
Field Day brought its productions to London | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
and what happened there was that it created | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
a relationship between the two islands in theatre | 0:19:50 | 0:19:55 | |
which hadn't been there before and that was a huge achievement. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
It was a kind of cultural contribution to the process | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
that eventually led to the Anglo-Irish peace process, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
and I believe it was that important. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
What will you miss about him? | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
I miss the phone calls. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
For a man who lived in this remote corner of the North of Ireland, | 0:20:14 | 0:20:18 | |
he had an extraordinary knowledge of what was going on in theatre | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
elsewhere, the capitals, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
so we had these regular phone calls | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and they were usually sparked by something that had happened | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
in theatre somewhere the night before. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
He was a good friend. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
He was a great friend. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
This is the National Library of Ireland in Dublin | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
where 160 boxes of the Brian Friel papers are stored. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:03 | |
There are draft manuscripts, contracts and notebooks | 0:21:03 | 0:21:07 | |
and hundreds and hundreds of personal letters and postcards | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
spanning over 55 years. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
Friel famously withdrew from the media in the early 1980s, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
but he continued to communicate by letters, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
like these, with correspondents as diverse | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
as Billy Connolly and Katharine Hepburn. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
One man who got to know Friel in both a personal | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
and professional capacity | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
was Downpatrick photographer Bobbie Hanvey. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
With unique access to this most private of men, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
the result is a stunning archive of revealing portraits. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
I think that was his favourite one, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:03 | |
the one where he's looking at the camera. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
The lighting on all that day was just amazing, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
and it sort of lit him up like 3D, nearly. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
He liked that photo. That photo has been used all over the world. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
It's very rugged-looking as well. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
He looks like he's carved out of the rock. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
Brian was like the rocks. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
He had this craggy face. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
He had big ears, he had a nose, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
and he'd all the lines on his face, but it all moulded together | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
and made him very memorable. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
He had the greatest face that I have ever photographed. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
You photographed him doing the most ordinary of things as well - | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
mowing the grass, walking the dog, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
even Brian Friel the beekeeper. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
When I took him that close-up | 0:22:53 | 0:22:54 | |
in the beekeeper's outfit with the black veil over his face, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
I told him, "You look like a bride." | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
In this white gear, he took some laugh at that. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
I was funny with him and we weren't serious with each other. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
I knew nothing about his plays and he knew nothing about photography | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
and I respected him for the way he wrote these plays | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
and how popular they were all over the world. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
He liked me because I took fairly good photographs of him. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
I took him on another day with a branch, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
a big old branch of a tree that had been broken down at the waterside. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
It was about 12 foot high and he just stood with the branch | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
straight up in the air, holding the branch, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
and I took him sideways, profile, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
and this woman from Hungary, | 0:23:33 | 0:23:34 | |
she was some big university professor or something, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
she wrote to me and she says, | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
"That's the greatest photograph I've ever seen of Brian Friel. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
"You've captured his soul." | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
I says to Brian, "That was the worst photograph I ever took of you," | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
and he roared laughing. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
You had a great letter-writing relationship as well. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
I used to write to him in the winter time | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
and I'd say, "Brian, can I come up in May and see you?" | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
He says, "Pencil it in." | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
That's the way he liked it. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
It's just... He was so good. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
I says, "You'll be getting as good as Samantha Fox at this posing." | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
What was the first picture you ever took of him? | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
At the anchor. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
That was the first ones. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
And what were the last? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:17 | |
The last ones were in the red pullover with Billy, his dog. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:22 | |
For me, looking at those photographs, it's the intimacy that you get | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
with them, whether he's walking the dog | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
or he's in his beekeeper's outfit. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
It's the private man that you got. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
He was private, all right, and I was privileged. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
-You must miss him a lot. -I do, I do miss him. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
There's an old saying - if a friend dies, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
they take part of you with them, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
and I found that when Brian died. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
I haven't been feeling right since. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
What will your lasting memory of Brian Friel be? | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
He just was like the fellow next door when you went up to meet him. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:05 | |
There was no airs or graces. No nothing. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
He just loved smoking his big Havana cigar. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
I miss him. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
Over the past ten years, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
I wrote to Brian Friel asking for an interview I never got. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
He always politely declined, a stance I grew to admire. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
He wasn't seduced by the bright lights, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
so it seems fitting then that the bright lights of Broadway, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
where he had his first big hit, Philadelphia, Here I Come, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
were dimmed briefly in his honour earlier this month. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
Brian Friel was a true man of theatre. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
He was the business. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
His legacy in terms of Field Day is very seldom does a writer | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
influence a whole theatre movement, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
and all of his concerns are taken up the way they were by Field Day. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:27 | |
The work is really put at the service of an enlightenment | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
of a traumatic situation that we were living through. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
I don't care if the English critics acknowledge it or not. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
He was a majestic figure. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
I just think we have to rethink, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
redraw our whole map of not just Irish theatre | 0:26:45 | 0:26:51 | |
but certainly European theatre. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
You can find people doing his work all over the place. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Rather like Beckett, he's very accessible, | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
especially to those people who are dealing with the post-colonial mind-set, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
which he wonderfully danced us through. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
Took us, led us out of the parish and into the wide world. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:12 | |
I think it's going to be a long time before we realise | 0:27:12 | 0:27:16 | |
the extent of his contribution to the culture, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
and when we do start to realise, | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
we'll see what a towering figure he actually is. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
The great thing about him was that he had such vitality, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
such a sense of life, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
that it's very difficult to think that he is gone. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
I mean, he is present in conversations all the time, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
so that he is still with us. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Human being. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:44 | |
One of the most intelligent people that I have ever met | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
that didn't show it. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
When I think of Brian, I think of him in the office | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
with the cigar in hand and the mischief in the eyes. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
To me, he was a gentleman in every sense of that word. | 0:27:56 | 0:28:00 | |
A lovely human being. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
When you ask me, have I anything to declare, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
and I say, only this and this, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
I assume that you will look beyond the innocent outspread hands. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:18 |