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Yes, it is good to be back. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
You're very welcome to the first in a brand-new series of The Arts Show. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:10 | |
So, let's hit the ground running. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
Here's what's coming up. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
Things Left Unsaid In American TV News Studios. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
Paul Seawright's eloquent photographic response | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
to the war in Iraq. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
The photographer's shadow is cast into the image metaphorically. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
Hidden in plain sight, you may not know artist Chris Wilson, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
but you will almost certainly know his art. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
And following the passing of literary giant Brian Friel, | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
actor-director Adrian Dunbar reflects on his genius. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
I think it's going to be a long time before we realise | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
the extent of his contribution to the culture. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
And when we do start to realise, we'll see what a towering figure he actually is. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
And we start the new series in the Lyric, the Belfast theatre | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
where so many of Brian Friel's plays have been performed. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
More on that later. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
But first, in between holding down the day job | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
as Professor of Photography at the Ulster University, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Paul Seawright is an internationally celebrated photographer. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
And, like his friend and fellow artist Colin Davidson, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
who's iconic portraits hang here in the Lyric foyer, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Paul has a new exhibition at the Ulster Museum. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
'Attacks have grown significantly during the first weeks | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
'of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.' | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
The photographer's shadow is cast into the image metaphorically. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
'Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a terror network.' | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
My work's always about what's excluded, and what's not shown. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
'We're making a lot of progress in Iraq, and we're making it every day. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
'My heart breaks. I pray, you know... Several a month.' | 0:02:11 | 0:02:16 | |
The series title is called Things Left Unsaid | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
and, of course, this image sums it up very well. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
That void represents the things that are not spoken about, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
the things that are not shown on television. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
I mean, this project on the surface seems to be about news. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
But, of course, it's not really about news at all. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
It's about war and that void, that blackness, that unknown | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
and the darkness that it represents in relation to war | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
is really key in the understanding of this work. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
As the title suggests in the series, the things left unsaid, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
the unspeakable things about conflict. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
The things that news cannot show us or cannot really get us close to, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
even though there's the artifice that it can, it can't. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
And the series is trying to grapple with that kind of duality. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
Of the reality of the news studio, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
but this kind of hyper reality of war itself. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
So, this thing that none of us really can quite understand | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
that's beyond our comprehension. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
An artwork gives up its meaning slowly. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
And therefore you're making work that is layered, it's not obvious. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
And requires the viewer to bring something to the image. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
I'm using language as well as something visual in the work. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
The titles of the photographs themselves are very sparse, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
but also very leading. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:38 | |
There's an image called Clusters, which is a cluster of lights. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
But, of course, that references cluster bombs. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
All of that is a kind of subtle way to open up the layered | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
narratives in the work. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
This is a remote device, as in a remote camera, but of course, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
in contemporary warfare, a lot of the warfare is remote. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
So you'll get a couple of soldiers sitting | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
in a Portakabin in Las Vegas, and they're flying drones | 0:04:10 | 0:04:13 | |
or unmanned planes over Syria or Iraq. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
It's trying to play with that idea that there is this | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
coming together of technology, the technology of war, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
the technology of reporting on war, the technology of the news studio. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
You know, the lexicon is the same. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
One of the challenges in making work when you're dealing with | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
quite complex content - for me, the content is everything - | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
is that it still has to work as a piece of art. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
This is beautiful to look at, the colours, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
the abstract nature of the objects, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
but for me it's also important that it means something, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
it contributes something to the meaning of the larger body of work. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
It's about that green screen idea, night-vision goggles, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
these umbilical cords, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
the same kind of cords that run to remote robots for defusing IEDs. | 0:04:55 | 0:05:01 | |
All of those ideas are there, but of course, on the surface, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
you still have to seduce your audience visually. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
It's true to say that all of the work I have made, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
whether it be in Afghanistan or sub-Saharan Africa, North America, | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
that essentially I am really making work about Belfast. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
It is about my experience of growing up in this place | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
and the contested nature of landscape and place, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
and in this case, the reporting of conflict. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
I have been criticised, I suppose, for avoiding taking | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
a position on a lot of the subjects I have talked about. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
I'm talking about difficult things, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:42 | |
so I use art practice as a way to navigate that. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
There is a lot left unsaid by me as an artist, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
because the idea is that the viewer will come in | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
and bring all of their own latent prejudice to this work, | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
they'll bring all of their own preconceptions | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
about conflict and how it is represented. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
People here in Northern Ireland particularly might do that, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
and reflect on the way that the media has or has not | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
represented the conflict in Northern Ireland. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
And Things Left Unsaid is at the Ulster Museum now. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Paul Seawright will be my guest later in the show to discuss how | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
a single frame can change the world. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
Now, if any of this has got you thinking creatively, the BBC has got | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
a great resource online at the moment, | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
the BBC Get Creative campaign. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
Whether it be photography, dance, theatre or music, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
all you have to do is upload your performance | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
to #getcreative, #loveto, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
and you might even find your work featured on BBC Television, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
radio or online. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
We pass so much public art every day, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
but how much do we know about the artists who actually make it? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
Probably not that much. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
We decided to put that right by entering the imaginative world | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
of artist Chris Wilson in his studio on the north coast. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
When I was developing the Threads of Time sculpture, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
I remembered how, as a child, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
I would use the rug in front | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
of the fire and mould it into a landscape. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
That idea became part of the development of the sculpture. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
The headquarters there, Newtownabbey Borough Council, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
it's an old mill, so the linen idea was very important. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
The sides of the table, the cloth has damask patterns, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
and on the surface, it's transformed into the idea of a landscape, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:47 | |
with the Cavehill and the road network. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
So in a way, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
that childhood memory played quite an important part in that idea. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:55 | |
The amount of burnishing we're doing here now, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
is that just too strong, or is that picking out those details? | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
I think that's fine. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:06 | |
The latest piece of public art that I've been | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
working on is for Southampton. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
I love the almost playfulness | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
and surrealism of putting boats upside down. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
For me, the idea was to create a sense of movement. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
Yeah, it really does. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
The piece echoes the idea of a globe or a sphere, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
but with most of it cut away. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
This piece represents about eight months' work | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
to get it to this stage. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
I was thinking about Southampton as being a gateway for this trade, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
that is on a world basis. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
Transforming ideas, transforming materials | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
I feel is a very important part of art, or making art. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
There is something very interesting about bronze casting, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
it's almost like a magical act and it becomes something very permanent. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
The longer that they are out in the public domain, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
the more the natural patina and the verdigris colour will build on it. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Global Journeys in Newcastle was actually the first piece | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
where I used bronze. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:17 | |
The idea was that this | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
mirror-polished stainless steel sphere | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
would reflect the sea, the sky, the mountains. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Basically become like a world in itself. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
The bronze design around the base echoes the idea of | 0:09:32 | 0:09:37 | |
the salmon returning along the Shimna River every year. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
The sense of place I feel is important within my art. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:54 | |
I go walking along the coast, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
I'm looking at the landscape in a particular way, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
I'm looking at the strata, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I'm thinking of the geological history that informs | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
this landscape and I'm also looking at how that thin layer | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
of human activity exists on the top of it. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
And it's those connections that I'm interested in exploring. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
All you can hope for as an artist is that some of the things that | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
you do connect with other people in the world. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
As an artist, you work every day. And some days, you make art. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
He's been hailed "the Irish Chekhov" | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
and the equal of Tennessee Williams, Harold Pinter and Arthur Miller. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:50 | |
Brian Friel may be gone from us, but his legacy is huge. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:56 | |
Much has been written about our giant of world theatre. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
I'm here with Adrian Dunbar, who has directed several of Brian's plays. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:10 | |
Do you think he was a genius? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Yeah. Yes, I do, of course I think he was a genius. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
You can't write that many plays, do that many translations, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
have so much success in what must be one of the most difficult | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
art forms to achieve success in, so yes, Brian is a genius, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:33 | |
and now that he has left us, of course, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
we recognise even more what a genius he was. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
What was he like? | 0:11:41 | 0:11:42 | |
He was a very warm person towards me and towards anybody, I think, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:49 | |
who was working on his work, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
and who was sincere about working on his work. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
But he was very thorough and very rigorous, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
and didn't stand any frivolity or... | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
He was a very thorough person, | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
and you had to be on top of your game to work with him. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
And of course, like all great people, all the standards | 0:12:09 | 0:12:13 | |
rose around him when you started to engage with him and his work. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
What was he then like whenever you first directed? | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
And you went with his biggie, didn't you? Philadelphia, Here I Come! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
Yes, I directed Philadelphia, Here I Come! | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
up in Derry, and I was lucky that I was directing it in Derry | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
because it meant that Brian was able to come | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
and be very hands-on with us. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
And actually come and see a little bit of rehearsals | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
and stuff like that, make sure we were on the right road, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
which was great, because it's fabulous, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:49 | |
the relationship between the writer and the actor, of course, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
he was very encouraging towards the actors, | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
which really helped me as a director. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Was he encouraging to you as well, though? | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Yes, he was always encouraging to me. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
I think he has always been encouraging to people | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
he believes sincerely understand and try and get inside his work. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
And was there a frisson, a change in atmosphere when | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
you knew that Friel was in the house | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
and he was watching all the rehearsals? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:18 | |
Well, of course, of course, because way before everybody else understood | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
what a genius Brian Friel was, the actors already knew, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
because they were speaking his words, they were inhabiting | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
his characters, they could see the depth | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
and the scope of what he was doing, I think. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
They were responding to it in a very immediate way, | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
so yeah, the game is always upped when a genius is around, | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
he just lifts the whole, you know, all our consciousness, if you like. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:53 | |
You busy yourself? | 0:13:53 | 0:13:54 | |
Oh, the usual, housework, looking after his lordship. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
'Anybody, especially with an Ulster sensibility, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
'is completely inside his work.' | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
..sell sewing machines. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
'That civil quality, non-frivolous quality, that suddenly,' | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
sometimes bursts into... Like a dance, in Dancing at Lughnasa. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
TRADITIONAL IRISH MUSIC PLAYS | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
THEY HOWL | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
What do you feel will be his legacy? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
We have to, you know, rethink, redraw our whole map of | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
not just Irish theatre, but certainly European theatre... | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
You can go online and you can find Basque students doing translations, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:45 | |
you can find people doing his work all over the place. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:50 | |
Rather like Beckett, he is very accessible, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
especially to those people who are dealing | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
with the post-colonial mind-set, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
which he wonderfully danced us through. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
Took us, led us out of the parish and into the wide world really. | 0:15:00 | 0:15:05 | |
So, you know, I think it is going to be a long time | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
before we realise the extent of his contribution to the culture. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:16 | |
-And when we do start to realise... -HE CHUCKLES | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
..we'll see what a towering figure he actually is. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
And we'll have a special programme | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
taking an in-depth look | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
at Brian Friel's life and work | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
on The Arts Show in December. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Every year, literally tens of thousands of people stream | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
through the doors of the Ulster Museum to see one art exhibition. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Such is the popularity of the Royal Ulster Academy show, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
we couldn't resist going behind the scenes. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
The Royal Ulster Academy has been | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
running for about 134 years. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
This is the largest exhibition of painting, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
every year, in Northern Ireland. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
We're made up of members, both academicians and associates. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
John Luke, Colin Middleton, Basil Blackshaw, TP Flanagan, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:13 | |
they've all been academicians. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
It's a hard job to get in. Only 12% of submitted paintings get through. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:23 | |
And the wonderful thing about it is, it's such a range of works. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:29 | |
You have 300-odd pictures. There are a lot of paintings | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
that tell a story, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:34 | |
there are other pictures that are abstract and the colours vibrate. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
I have to say, you can't miss the Red Crane of Brendan Jamison's. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:45 | |
Brendan makes this from wool, and he loves using materials that | 0:16:46 | 0:16:52 | |
should be knitted or the direct opposite that you would expect. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:59 | |
A crane is masculine, it's tough, it's metallic. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
It's dominant, it's wonderful, and it's going to give us | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
the colour theme for this gallery, which has to be red. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Other years you might have | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
still-life sections or print sections, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
but I think colour is dominating, from the reds to the vivid blues. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
So colour, definitely, is back, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
AND there is also a tremendous emphasis now on | 0:17:23 | 0:17:28 | |
good figure drawing, which I like to see, | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
that that academic rigour is still there. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
I also love the Paper Boat that Mary McCaffrey has painted, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
her son made the paper boat | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
and she's got the feeling of the water and the boat floating in it. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
I like the Jennifer Trouton - very, very skilled academic work. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:55 | |
And it's virtuoso in its hyperrealism. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
She's set up a still life and this is actually oil on canvas, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:04 | |
it's not collage. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
This is accurately painted, and the satin material just shines. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
You can almost feel the flowers embroidered on that. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Anyone can submit their art for selection in the exhibition, | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
but judges also have the opportunity to promote an artist | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
whose work wasn't initially selected. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
My personal choice was Stephen Johnston. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
He has a combination of feeling, atmosphere, good painting, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:42 | |
and, you know, the ivy coming in to the old house. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Youth and age and decay and living, I think it's all in that picture. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:53 | |
Young man of 28, he is open submission, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:58 | |
which is tremendous, because he's not a member yet. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
This is how the young blood is being brought in. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
In 1985, with not a lot to laugh about in Northern Ireland, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
Mike Moloney co-founded the Belfast Community Circus School. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
Mike passed away in 2013, and in his memory | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
the Arts Council of Northern Ireland | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
set up the annual Mike Moloney award for young people. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
The first artist to receive it is Christopher McAuley. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
The spark to get me where I am happened very young. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:43 | |
I think it would have been the first time I was up on a trapeze, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
and I could feel her sore it was and how painful | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
and how much it took to get up there, but it was like, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
"I'm sitting on it now, there's so much more I can do." | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
Being up there, it's a very powerful feeling. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
It's hard work, but even the hard work is fun. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
During my A-levels I had this continual battle of | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
"Should I go to university and study science or should I go | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
"and keep up the circus, should I do it full-time?" | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Luckily, I fell into a course in Belfast at the time called | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
"The Circus Arts for Employment", | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
and it was nine months' intense course. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
With circus, you never stop learning. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
New teaching techniques and skills are developed | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and invented every day. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
This award means that I can go to Brazil and train for 12 weeks. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:33 | |
Brazil is renowned for its approach to circus, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
it's the circus capital of the world. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
I'll be training in two different schools. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
Catsapa Arts School, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
which combines circus, art, dance, theatre, music all together. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
The National Circus of Brazil | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
is renowned for creating | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
some of the most elite performers. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Some of the likes would go towards Cirque du Soleil or Cirque Eloize, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
other renowned circus universities throughout the world. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
The 12 weeks in Brazil are going to be intense. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
There is masterclasses in aerial silks, trapeze, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
loads of things, I am going to come back a lot fitter | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
and a lot more equipped to provide better shows. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
The feeling of performing up there, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
I see it almost as taking a step back, just your muscle memory | 0:21:12 | 0:21:18 | |
and the fact that you have drilled it so much into your body. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Your body knows what move's coming next, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
but I think the idea of you can just relax and let your body do it. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
Your body does it, but you're just watching yourself do it. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
It's a lovely feeling, just being like, "OK, this is how it works." | 0:21:34 | 0:21:37 | |
It's an amazing feeling. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
Few of us were left unmoved by the image of Aylan Kurdi's body | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
washed up on a beach in Turkey. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
The photograph of the three-year-old Syrian child | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
appalled the world into action, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
and such was the power of that image, it seems to me, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Paul, that a little bit like your own work, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
it did so much more than just straight photo journalism could. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
Yes, I think there was | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
a casualness about the way that photograph was made, | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
as if it had been observed from a distance, but also | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
the very nature of it was something that we are not used to seeing. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
It wasn't dramatic, it was a very quiet picture, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
but heartbreaking, because it just | 0:22:27 | 0:22:28 | |
looked like a piece of rubbish | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
washed up on the sand, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
and of course, it was a child. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
I think also the closeness to the West, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
we recognise the trainers, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
the Velcro trainers, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:39 | |
the red T-shirt, blue shorts. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
I think that is what created the empathy. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
What other images throughout the 20th and 21st centuries | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
of popular culture have created such an impact? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
It's not the first time we've seen | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
controversial images of children in war. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
The very famous Nick Ut picture of a nine-year-old naked girl | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
running down a road in Vietnam fleeing a napalm attack, | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
that's a very famous image, in fact, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
it is so iconic and so important | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
that it has come to represent | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
the Vietnam War. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
It's actually transferred into another context, | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
on the Falls Road, there's even a mural that has that same girl | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
dressed in a hijab running down a Syrian road. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
So anyone who looks at that will recognise the link between | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
Vietnam, and I guess what's being proposed in that mural is Syria. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
When does, though, a single frame transcend just being | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
a photograph and become a work of art? | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
I think it is about the lack of text. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
Normally we have images surrounded by contextualisation and by text. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
What happened with that image, the way it was disseminated, | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
it was on social media, very little text, the image did everything, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
and I think an image transcends all other photographs | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
when it does that, when it needs nothing else in order for it | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
to function, in order for us to understand what it is about. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
And when does it transcend taste and decency? As a photographer, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
as an artist, when is the right time to take that photograph | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
and when is the time to walk away? | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
Well, in my view, it's very rare that it would be the | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
right time to take that kind of photograph. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
That's not something that should be done often. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
It's a very unusual singular moment. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
As an artist, I am always trying to find ways of | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
engaging people like that without showing the drama, that's what I do, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
and about trying to get that line just right between moving people | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
and making people interested in things you want to talk about, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
and actually being ethical | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
and decent in terms of respecting the people | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
you are making work about. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Paul Seawright, thank you. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
It is the opera with perhaps the most famous aria of all time. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
Nessun Dorma, by Puccini, from his opera Turandot. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
A new production is coming to the Grand Opera House next month, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
but be warned, the director has been dubbed | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
"the Tarantino of Opera", | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
so expect a little bit more Reservoir Dogs than Madame Butterfly. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
OPERATIC SINGING | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
Definitely not for the faint-hearted. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Next month, we will be asking why do modern reinterpretations of opera | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
feel the need to shock? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
but we leave with you tonight with that famous aria, Nessun Dorma. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:58 | |
In a bespoke performance for The Art Show, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
here are members of the Ulster Youth Orchestra. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Good night. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:04 |