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Yes, it is good to be back.

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You're very welcome to the first in a brand-new series of The Arts Show.

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So, let's hit the ground running.

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Here's what's coming up.

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Things Left Unsaid In American TV News Studios.

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Paul Seawright's eloquent photographic response

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to the war in Iraq.

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The photographer's shadow is cast into the image metaphorically.

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Hidden in plain sight, you may not know artist Chris Wilson,

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but you will almost certainly know his art.

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And following the passing of literary giant Brian Friel,

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actor-director Adrian Dunbar reflects on his genius.

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I think it's going to be a long time before we realise

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the extent of his contribution to the culture.

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And when we do start to realise, we'll see what a towering figure he actually is.

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And we start the new series in the Lyric, the Belfast theatre

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where so many of Brian Friel's plays have been performed.

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More on that later.

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But first, in between holding down the day job

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as Professor of Photography at the Ulster University,

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Paul Seawright is an internationally celebrated photographer.

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And, like his friend and fellow artist Colin Davidson,

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who's iconic portraits hang here in the Lyric foyer,

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Paul has a new exhibition at the Ulster Museum.

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'Attacks have grown significantly during the first weeks

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'of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.'

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The photographer's shadow is cast into the image metaphorically.

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'Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a terror network.'

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My work's always about what's excluded, and what's not shown.

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'We're making a lot of progress in Iraq, and we're making it every day.

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'My heart breaks. I pray, you know... Several a month.'

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The series title is called Things Left Unsaid

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and, of course, this image sums it up very well.

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That void represents the things that are not spoken about,

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the things that are not shown on television.

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I mean, this project on the surface seems to be about news.

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But, of course, it's not really about news at all.

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It's about war and that void, that blackness, that unknown

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and the darkness that it represents in relation to war

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is really key in the understanding of this work.

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As the title suggests in the series, the things left unsaid,

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the unspeakable things about conflict.

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The things that news cannot show us or cannot really get us close to,

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even though there's the artifice that it can, it can't.

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And the series is trying to grapple with that kind of duality.

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Of the reality of the news studio,

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but this kind of hyper reality of war itself.

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So, this thing that none of us really can quite understand

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that's beyond our comprehension.

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An artwork gives up its meaning slowly.

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And therefore you're making work that is layered, it's not obvious.

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And requires the viewer to bring something to the image.

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I'm using language as well as something visual in the work.

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The titles of the photographs themselves are very sparse,

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but also very leading.

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There's an image called Clusters, which is a cluster of lights.

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But, of course, that references cluster bombs.

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All of that is a kind of subtle way to open up the layered

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narratives in the work.

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This is a remote device, as in a remote camera, but of course,

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in contemporary warfare, a lot of the warfare is remote.

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So you'll get a couple of soldiers sitting

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in a Portakabin in Las Vegas, and they're flying drones

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or unmanned planes over Syria or Iraq.

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It's trying to play with that idea that there is this

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coming together of technology, the technology of war,

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the technology of reporting on war, the technology of the news studio.

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You know, the lexicon is the same.

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One of the challenges in making work when you're dealing with

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quite complex content - for me, the content is everything -

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is that it still has to work as a piece of art.

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This is beautiful to look at, the colours,

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the abstract nature of the objects,

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but for me it's also important that it means something,

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it contributes something to the meaning of the larger body of work.

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It's about that green screen idea, night-vision goggles,

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these umbilical cords,

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the same kind of cords that run to remote robots for defusing IEDs.

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All of those ideas are there, but of course, on the surface,

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you still have to seduce your audience visually.

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It's true to say that all of the work I have made,

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whether it be in Afghanistan or sub-Saharan Africa, North America,

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that essentially I am really making work about Belfast.

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It is about my experience of growing up in this place

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and the contested nature of landscape and place,

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and in this case, the reporting of conflict.

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I have been criticised, I suppose, for avoiding taking

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a position on a lot of the subjects I have talked about.

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I'm talking about difficult things,

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so I use art practice as a way to navigate that.

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There is a lot left unsaid by me as an artist,

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because the idea is that the viewer will come in

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and bring all of their own latent prejudice to this work,

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they'll bring all of their own preconceptions

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about conflict and how it is represented.

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People here in Northern Ireland particularly might do that,

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and reflect on the way that the media has or has not

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represented the conflict in Northern Ireland.

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And Things Left Unsaid is at the Ulster Museum now.

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Paul Seawright will be my guest later in the show to discuss how

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a single frame can change the world.

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Now, if any of this has got you thinking creatively, the BBC has got

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a great resource online at the moment,

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the BBC Get Creative campaign.

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Whether it be photography, dance, theatre or music,

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all you have to do is upload your performance

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to #getcreative, #loveto,

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and you might even find your work featured on BBC Television,

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radio or online.

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We pass so much public art every day,

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but how much do we know about the artists who actually make it?

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Probably not that much.

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We decided to put that right by entering the imaginative world

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of artist Chris Wilson in his studio on the north coast.

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When I was developing the Threads of Time sculpture,

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I remembered how, as a child,

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I would use the rug in front

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of the fire and mould it into a landscape.

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That idea became part of the development of the sculpture.

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The headquarters there, Newtownabbey Borough Council,

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it's an old mill, so the linen idea was very important.

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The sides of the table, the cloth has damask patterns,

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and on the surface, it's transformed into the idea of a landscape,

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with the Cavehill and the road network.

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So in a way,

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that childhood memory played quite an important part in that idea.

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The amount of burnishing we're doing here now,

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is that just too strong, or is that picking out those details?

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I think that's fine.

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The latest piece of public art that I've been

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working on is for Southampton.

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I love the almost playfulness

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and surrealism of putting boats upside down.

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For me, the idea was to create a sense of movement.

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Yeah, it really does.

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The piece echoes the idea of a globe or a sphere,

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but with most of it cut away.

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This piece represents about eight months' work

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to get it to this stage.

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I was thinking about Southampton as being a gateway for this trade,

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that is on a world basis.

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Transforming ideas, transforming materials

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I feel is a very important part of art, or making art.

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There is something very interesting about bronze casting,

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it's almost like a magical act and it becomes something very permanent.

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The longer that they are out in the public domain,

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the more the natural patina and the verdigris colour will build on it.

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Global Journeys in Newcastle was actually the first piece

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where I used bronze.

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The idea was that this

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mirror-polished stainless steel sphere

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would reflect the sea, the sky, the mountains.

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Basically become like a world in itself.

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The bronze design around the base echoes the idea of

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the salmon returning along the Shimna River every year.

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The sense of place I feel is important within my art.

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I go walking along the coast,

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I'm looking at the landscape in a particular way,

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I'm looking at the strata,

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I'm thinking of the geological history that informs

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this landscape and I'm also looking at how that thin layer

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of human activity exists on the top of it.

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And it's those connections that I'm interested in exploring.

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All you can hope for as an artist is that some of the things that

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you do connect with other people in the world.

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As an artist, you work every day. And some days, you make art.

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He's been hailed "the Irish Chekhov"

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and the equal of Tennessee Williams, Harold Pinter and Arthur Miller.

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Brian Friel may be gone from us, but his legacy is huge.

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Much has been written about our giant of world theatre.

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I'm here with Adrian Dunbar, who has directed several of Brian's plays.

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Do you think he was a genius?

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Yeah. Yes, I do, of course I think he was a genius.

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You can't write that many plays, do that many translations,

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have so much success in what must be one of the most difficult

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art forms to achieve success in, so yes, Brian is a genius,

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and now that he has left us, of course,

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we recognise even more what a genius he was.

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What was he like?

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He was a very warm person towards me and towards anybody, I think,

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who was working on his work,

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and who was sincere about working on his work.

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But he was very thorough and very rigorous,

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and didn't stand any frivolity or...

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He was a very thorough person,

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and you had to be on top of your game to work with him.

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And of course, like all great people, all the standards

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rose around him when you started to engage with him and his work.

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What was he then like whenever you first directed?

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And you went with his biggie, didn't you? Philadelphia, Here I Come!

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Yes, I directed Philadelphia, Here I Come!

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up in Derry, and I was lucky that I was directing it in Derry

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because it meant that Brian was able to come

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and be very hands-on with us.

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And actually come and see a little bit of rehearsals

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and stuff like that, make sure we were on the right road,

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which was great, because it's fabulous,

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the relationship between the writer and the actor, of course,

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he was very encouraging towards the actors,

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which really helped me as a director.

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Was he encouraging to you as well, though?

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Yes, he was always encouraging to me.

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I think he has always been encouraging to people

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he believes sincerely understand and try and get inside his work.

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And was there a frisson, a change in atmosphere when

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you knew that Friel was in the house

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and he was watching all the rehearsals?

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Well, of course, of course, because way before everybody else understood

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what a genius Brian Friel was, the actors already knew,

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because they were speaking his words, they were inhabiting

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his characters, they could see the depth

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and the scope of what he was doing, I think.

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They were responding to it in a very immediate way,

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so yeah, the game is always upped when a genius is around,

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he just lifts the whole, you know, all our consciousness, if you like.

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You busy yourself?

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Oh, the usual, housework, looking after his lordship.

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'Anybody, especially with an Ulster sensibility,

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'is completely inside his work.'

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..sell sewing machines.

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'That civil quality, non-frivolous quality, that suddenly,'

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sometimes bursts into... Like a dance, in Dancing at Lughnasa.

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TRADITIONAL IRISH MUSIC PLAYS

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THEY HOWL

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What do you feel will be his legacy?

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We have to, you know, rethink, redraw our whole map of

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not just Irish theatre, but certainly European theatre...

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You can go online and you can find Basque students doing translations,

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you can find people doing his work all over the place.

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Rather like Beckett, he is very accessible,

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especially to those people who are dealing

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with the post-colonial mind-set,

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which he wonderfully danced us through.

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Took us, led us out of the parish and into the wide world really.

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So, you know, I think it is going to be a long time

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before we realise the extent of his contribution to the culture.

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-And when we do start to realise...

-HE CHUCKLES

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..we'll see what a towering figure he actually is.

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And we'll have a special programme

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taking an in-depth look

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at Brian Friel's life and work

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on The Arts Show in December.

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Every year, literally tens of thousands of people stream

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through the doors of the Ulster Museum to see one art exhibition.

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Such is the popularity of the Royal Ulster Academy show,

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we couldn't resist going behind the scenes.

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The Royal Ulster Academy has been

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running for about 134 years.

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This is the largest exhibition of painting,

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every year, in Northern Ireland.

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We're made up of members, both academicians and associates.

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John Luke, Colin Middleton, Basil Blackshaw, TP Flanagan,

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they've all been academicians.

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It's a hard job to get in. Only 12% of submitted paintings get through.

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And the wonderful thing about it is, it's such a range of works.

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You have 300-odd pictures. There are a lot of paintings

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that tell a story,

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there are other pictures that are abstract and the colours vibrate.

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I have to say, you can't miss the Red Crane of Brendan Jamison's.

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Brendan makes this from wool, and he loves using materials that

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should be knitted or the direct opposite that you would expect.

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A crane is masculine, it's tough, it's metallic.

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It's dominant, it's wonderful, and it's going to give us

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the colour theme for this gallery, which has to be red.

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Other years you might have

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still-life sections or print sections,

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but I think colour is dominating, from the reds to the vivid blues.

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So colour, definitely, is back,

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AND there is also a tremendous emphasis now on

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good figure drawing, which I like to see,

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that that academic rigour is still there.

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I also love the Paper Boat that Mary McCaffrey has painted,

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her son made the paper boat

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and she's got the feeling of the water and the boat floating in it.

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I like the Jennifer Trouton - very, very skilled academic work.

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And it's virtuoso in its hyperrealism.

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She's set up a still life and this is actually oil on canvas,

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it's not collage.

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This is accurately painted, and the satin material just shines.

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You can almost feel the flowers embroidered on that.

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Anyone can submit their art for selection in the exhibition,

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but judges also have the opportunity to promote an artist

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whose work wasn't initially selected.

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My personal choice was Stephen Johnston.

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He has a combination of feeling, atmosphere, good painting,

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and, you know, the ivy coming in to the old house.

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Youth and age and decay and living, I think it's all in that picture.

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Young man of 28, he is open submission,

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which is tremendous, because he's not a member yet.

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This is how the young blood is being brought in.

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In 1985, with not a lot to laugh about in Northern Ireland,

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Mike Moloney co-founded the Belfast Community Circus School.

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Mike passed away in 2013, and in his memory

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the Arts Council of Northern Ireland

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set up the annual Mike Moloney award for young people.

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The first artist to receive it is Christopher McAuley.

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The spark to get me where I am happened very young.

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I think it would have been the first time I was up on a trapeze,

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and I could feel her sore it was and how painful

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and how much it took to get up there, but it was like,

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"I'm sitting on it now, there's so much more I can do."

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Being up there, it's a very powerful feeling.

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It's hard work, but even the hard work is fun.

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During my A-levels I had this continual battle of

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"Should I go to university and study science or should I go

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"and keep up the circus, should I do it full-time?"

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Luckily, I fell into a course in Belfast at the time called

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"The Circus Arts for Employment",

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and it was nine months' intense course.

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With circus, you never stop learning.

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New teaching techniques and skills are developed

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and invented every day.

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This award means that I can go to Brazil and train for 12 weeks.

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Brazil is renowned for its approach to circus,

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it's the circus capital of the world.

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I'll be training in two different schools.

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Catsapa Arts School,

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which combines circus, art, dance, theatre, music all together.

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The National Circus of Brazil

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is renowned for creating

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some of the most elite performers.

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Some of the likes would go towards Cirque du Soleil or Cirque Eloize,

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other renowned circus universities throughout the world.

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The 12 weeks in Brazil are going to be intense.

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There is masterclasses in aerial silks, trapeze,

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loads of things, I am going to come back a lot fitter

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and a lot more equipped to provide better shows.

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The feeling of performing up there,

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I see it almost as taking a step back, just your muscle memory

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and the fact that you have drilled it so much into your body.

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Your body knows what move's coming next,

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but I think the idea of you can just relax and let your body do it.

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Your body does it, but you're just watching yourself do it.

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It's a lovely feeling, just being like, "OK, this is how it works."

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It's an amazing feeling.

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Few of us were left unmoved by the image of Aylan Kurdi's body

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washed up on a beach in Turkey.

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The photograph of the three-year-old Syrian child

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appalled the world into action,

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and such was the power of that image, it seems to me,

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Paul, that a little bit like your own work,

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it did so much more than just straight photo journalism could.

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Yes, I think there was

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a casualness about the way that photograph was made,

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as if it had been observed from a distance, but also

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the very nature of it was something that we are not used to seeing.

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It wasn't dramatic, it was a very quiet picture,

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but heartbreaking, because it just

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looked like a piece of rubbish

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washed up on the sand,

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and of course, it was a child.

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I think also the closeness to the West,

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we recognise the trainers,

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the Velcro trainers,

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the red T-shirt, blue shorts.

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I think that is what created the empathy.

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What other images throughout the 20th and 21st centuries

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of popular culture have created such an impact?

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It's not the first time we've seen

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controversial images of children in war.

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The very famous Nick Ut picture of a nine-year-old naked girl

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running down a road in Vietnam fleeing a napalm attack,

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that's a very famous image, in fact,

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it is so iconic and so important

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that it has come to represent

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the Vietnam War.

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It's actually transferred into another context,

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on the Falls Road, there's even a mural that has that same girl

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dressed in a hijab running down a Syrian road.

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So anyone who looks at that will recognise the link between

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Vietnam, and I guess what's being proposed in that mural is Syria.

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When does, though, a single frame transcend just being

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a photograph and become a work of art?

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I think it is about the lack of text.

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Normally we have images surrounded by contextualisation and by text.

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What happened with that image, the way it was disseminated,

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it was on social media, very little text, the image did everything,

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and I think an image transcends all other photographs

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when it does that, when it needs nothing else in order for it

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to function, in order for us to understand what it is about.

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And when does it transcend taste and decency? As a photographer,

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as an artist, when is the right time to take that photograph

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and when is the time to walk away?

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Well, in my view, it's very rare that it would be the

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right time to take that kind of photograph.

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That's not something that should be done often.

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It's a very unusual singular moment.

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As an artist, I am always trying to find ways of

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engaging people like that without showing the drama, that's what I do,

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and about trying to get that line just right between moving people

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and making people interested in things you want to talk about,

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and actually being ethical

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and decent in terms of respecting the people

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you are making work about.

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Paul Seawright, thank you.

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It is the opera with perhaps the most famous aria of all time.

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Nessun Dorma, by Puccini, from his opera Turandot.

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A new production is coming to the Grand Opera House next month,

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but be warned, the director has been dubbed

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"the Tarantino of Opera",

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so expect a little bit more Reservoir Dogs than Madame Butterfly.

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OPERATIC SINGING

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Definitely not for the faint-hearted.

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Next month, we will be asking why do modern reinterpretations of opera

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feel the need to shock?

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but we leave with you tonight with that famous aria, Nessun Dorma.

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In a bespoke performance for The Art Show,

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here are members of the Ulster Youth Orchestra.

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Good night.

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