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Humans are storytelling animals. We need stories to survive and to make | :00:10. | :00:17. | |
sense of the nonsense and joy and madness and sadness that is everyday | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
life. And what I love about books is that | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
they provide as good a way of enjoying and sharing stories as can | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
be experienced. The half-dozen titles shortlisted | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
for this year's Samuel Johnson Prize, Britain's most prestigious | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
award for non-fiction, exemplify storytelling at its best. | :00:35. | :00:45. | |
These are books that go from bees to Roman Britain, from the First Afghan | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
War, to a biography of Thatcher, from a womanising radical poet to | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
how we commemorate the dead. Whatever your interests are, there's | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
something in this list, I would argue, for anyone. This is a truly | :00:57. | :01:01. | |
eclectic list of some of the very best books being published in | :01:02. | :01:05. | |
Britain today. Here to whet your appetite about | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
these six fascinating reads are some highly-qualified reviewers, all of | :01:09. | :01:10. | |
whom have judged the Samuel Johnson Prize in previous years. | :01:11. | :01:19. | |
It's such a diverse list, it's hard to tell which book is going to win, | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
but I certainly have my favourites. Whatever my preferences, one thing's | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
for sure: All six books will take you on rewarding and unexpected | :01:31. | :01:33. | |
journeys, and broaden your sense of the world. | :01:34. | :01:47. | |
It's hard to go anywhere these days without hearing how publishing is | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
dead, how the internet is killing book culture and how threatened | :01:53. | :01:57. | |
non-fiction is. As a publisher, you won't be surprised to learn that I | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
think that these concerns are overblown. For whilst the digital | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
transformation of our lives undeniably presents considerable | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
challenges, it also offers unprecedented opportunities. | :02:06. | :02:17. | |
It means the competition for people's time, it means publishers | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
and writers need to be more experimental, more creative, they | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
need to think of more new ways to tell stories. We are swamped with | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
information and what a writer, or the best writers of non-fiction do, | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
is do that sifting for you. Readers have less patience now to wade | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
through a huge book - it doesn't mean they won't do it occasionally - | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
and some books merit that length. But I think there is a tendency for | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
writers to try and be a little more concise in what they do. I don't | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
think we've ever been in a more exciting time to be a publisher, or | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
a reader or, for that matter, a writer. | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
One short but very powerful book on this year's list is Empires of the | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
Dead by David Crane, about the creation of the war cemeteries - | :03:04. | :03:06. | |
here reviewed by historian and former Prize Judge, Stella Tillyard. | :03:07. | :03:17. | |
Empires of the Dead tells the fascinating but forgotten story | :03:18. | :03:19. | |
behind British military cemeteries like this one in Brookwood, Surrey. | :03:20. | :03:28. | |
Cemeteries that today we see all over the world wherever British and | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
Commonwealth soldiers have fought. This book reveals how these fields | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
of graves were the vision of one man in the First World War. | :03:37. | :03:43. | |
His name was Fabian Ware. And he was faced when manning the early | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
ambulance service in the early battlefields of France with what to | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
do about the enormous numbers of bodies that very quickly began to | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
accumulate. He had a vision - an empire of the dead - a place where | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
the dead could rest in equality and forever in the places where they had | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
fallen. It's a seemingly small subject but which grows into a very | :04:06. | :04:08. | |
large history of an idea, really, and that's one of the things that | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
makes the book so compelling. Today, these cemeteries have become | :04:15. | :04:17. | |
part of our national consciousness, even identity. So I was fascinated | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
to learn how contentious they were at the time, with the greatest | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
opposition coming from relatives of the dead. | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
One can have every sympathy with the families because of course what | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
you'd want is to bring the person you loved back, and to have a place | :04:35. | :04:44. | |
where you could visit them. So Ware faced immense opposition from | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
families and was pilloried as heartless, as cruel. | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
I found the detail in Crane's book riveting - and harrowing. It's | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
staggering to think more than 4,000 headstones had to be shipped over to | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
the continent a week, while search parties were dispatched to the | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
battlefields to find bodies, a grim task which Crane describes with | :05:04. | :05:11. | |
powerful intensity. SHE READS: 'Wooden crosses lurching | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
drunkenly on the edge of flooded craters, the pathetic scraps of a | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
body lying beneath a blanket, a fleshless arm jutting out of a | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
buried dug-out, long lines of searches steadily moving across a | :05:23. | :05:25. | |
morass of mud with that intent air of a police cordon searching for a | :05:26. | :05:27. | |
missing child.' In total, more than half a million | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
dead were buried in Ware's cemeteries, soldiers from all over | :05:32. | :05:48. | |
the Empire. What remains when Crane describes | :05:49. | :05:50. | |
these cemeteries is the uniformity and equality amongst the dead, of | :05:51. | :05:54. | |
all faiths, all countries and all classes and I think that's one thing | :05:55. | :05:57. | |
that's rather beautiful about the vision and one reason these | :05:58. | :06:15. | |
cemeteries are so striking today. Equally pithy and moving is A String | :06:16. | :06:18. | |
in the Tale, the scientist Dave Goulson's book on bees. This time | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
our reviewer is journalist and former Prize Judge, Sam Leith. | :06:24. | :06:30. | |
This is a part memoir, part natural history account into the inner world | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
of the bumblebee. What's special about this book | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
really is it absolutely seeds with enthusiasm, and that's something | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
that always sings on the page in nonfiction. His voice comes through | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
it constantly, it's self-deprecating, it's kind of wry | :06:48. | :06:50. | |
and he accepts some of the absurdities of what he's doing and | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
the silliness and he's kind of in love with it. Not only does it tell | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
you an awful lot about bees you'd have had no idea about but the | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
closer in you look, the more there is to be fascinated by. Wow, so they | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
do that?! I've come to meet Dave - and some | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
bees - for which we need to don some rather fetching protection suits. | :07:13. | :07:18. | |
Rather surprisingly, we're not in the countryside but on the roof of a | :07:19. | :07:33. | |
London hotel. Bees here do better than in the countryside. Out in the | :07:34. | :07:44. | |
countryside there actually aren't that many flowers, and this is true | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
for if you're a honeybee or a bumblebee. | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
So, Dave, can you introduce us to your guests? | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
So, these are the bees, the species of bee that people keep in hives and | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
that we get honey from. I'm actually a specialist in bumblebees, which | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
are the wild relatives of bumblebees, if you like, which is a | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
bit like the difference between a domestic cat and a tiger. | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
The book charts Dave's attempts to understand and conserve the | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
endangered wild species. One of the things I absolutely loved | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
about your book is it tells you a lot about how scientists do science | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
and it's bonkers, you've got you tying bits of tinsel to bees and | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
chasing them across gardens or snipping off their feet and | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
travelling around with pickled bee feet. | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
It's just about curiosity. About trying to understand the natural | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
world, the ecology of bees. It's really amazing stuff. You talked | :08:31. | :08:37. | |
about experiment about how you found out how much energy they actually | :08:38. | :08:44. | |
burn? To stay in the air, a bumblebee has to flap its wings | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
about 200 times a second, which is pretty quick. So, it loses loads of | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
energy. So, they need to feed all the time. When a bumblebee leaves | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
its nest, even if its stocked up - its tanks are full. If it doesn't | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
find a flower within 40 minutes, then it's grounded, it can't fly | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
again and that's the end of it basically. So if there aren't enough | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
flowers, then bees are in trouble. One of my favourite passages in the | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
book describes an experiment in which Dave dropped bees out of his | :09:10. | :09:12. | |
car window to test their navigational skills in returning | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
home. HE READS: 'Even from two or three kilometres, the bees would | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
often be back within a few minutes, while I got caught up in the usual | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
Southampton traffic (bees don't have to worry about such things).The | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
record distance over which a bee successfully returned to the nest | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
was 10 kilometres. I was very proud of Blue 36.' | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
The distances bees regularly go, if you scale up into human terms, it's | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
absolutely ridiculous, it's like, you know, going to a patch of | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
flowers and back would be like us going to the moon and back to get | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
our shopping. The book's clearly got a sort of | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
campaigning aspect to it? I'm a conservationist really, and | :09:48. | :09:50. | |
bees are really good things to work on for two reasons - one is that | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
it's easy to explain to anyone why they should care because without | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
bees we wouldn't have blueberries, tomatoes, strawberries, runner beans | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
and chocolate and coffee. So, if we continue losing our bees, we run the | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
risk of living a much poorer life. And the other thing is people can | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
actually do something to help - the simplest thing to grow some flowers. | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
Even in a window box you'll see bees arrive and start feeding and you're | :10:18. | :10:29. | |
doing something to help. One of the joys of the Samuel | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
Johnson Prize is its range. And so from the world of bees to that Queen | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
Bee of a Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher, the subject of Charles | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
Moore's impressive biography. Our reviewer is broadcaster and former | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
Prize Judge, James Naughtie. In April this year, the death was | :10:50. | :10:52. | |
announced of one of the most important and controversial figures | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
of modern politics. 'This morning's headlines: | :10:57. | :10:59. | |
Preparations are continuing for Lady Thatcher's funeral?' | :11:00. | :11:01. | |
'There's been further world reaction to the death of Lady Thatcher | :11:02. | :11:03. | |
reflecting her divisive?' 'MPs and peers are preparing to | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
discuss her political legacy...' 'The Prime Minister who changed | :11:07. | :11:08. | |
Britain forever...' With Thatcher's death, it was time | :11:09. | :11:11. | |
for the biography she didn't want published 'till she was gone. An | :11:12. | :11:20. | |
authorised account of her life with the first of two volumes spanning | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
nearly six decades from her childhood to the end of the | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
Falklands War. I think for all of us, like myself, | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
who watched her as a reporter or observer, she's not someone you can | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
pin like a butterfly to the wall and stick in a glass case and say that's | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
it, that's the whole story. The whole story will be told over | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
generations. But what this does is to put many more layers of paint, | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
and warts incidentally, on the portrait. I think it tells us more | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
about her early life, her motivations, more about the paradox | :11:52. | :11:53. | |
in her personality between the pragmatist and the idealogue. | :11:54. | :12:00. | |
Margaret Thatcher herself gave her blessing, and access to all her | :12:01. | :12:02. | |
papers, to conservative journalist Charles Moore - and left him to it. | :12:03. | :12:10. | |
What impresses me most about it is that Charles Moore writes from a | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
very committed point of view, a very conservative point of view. But he | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
completely resists the temptation to give a head over heels in love | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
picture of Margaret Thatcher - it's not like that at all. | :12:22. | :12:24. | |
What's very striking about the book, really from the very beginning, is | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
the work he's done with unlikely people. I mean, we have the old | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
boyfriends of whom none of us had ever heard, and the whole story of | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
the courtship, as it would have been called in those days, with Dennis. | :12:37. | :12:39. | |
And that's the clue to the rest of the book. Because by the time | :12:40. | :12:46. | |
Charles Moore gets onto her accession to the leadership, he's | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
got brilliant control of his sources. He's spoken to everyone. To | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
my mind, the book gives a razor-sharp insight into what | :12:54. | :12:56. | |
politics is really like, how it feels. | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
You get the smell of sawdust in the ring when he's talking about the | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
leadership contest. A woman trying to command this man-built party and | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
man-built Whitehall is riveting. He's very good on her flirtatious | :13:08. | :13:12. | |
personality. I mean, you see something more than a stubborn Iron | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
Lady knocking everyone aside, refusing to listen to anyone who she | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
disagreed - and there was a bit of that in her personality as we all | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
know. But there was also something much much more subtle and it's | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
caught here. The climax of the book of course is | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
the Falklands War. There's a very telling moment, the Falklands War | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
has been won, and Charles Moore ends this book with a lovely picture of a | :13:35. | :13:42. | |
dinner. HE READS: 'So many people had been | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
invited to the dinner that there was no room for spouses at the table. | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
Instead, they were invited for post-dinner drinks in the drawing | :13:53. | :13:55. | |
rooms. Because all the main players in the Falklands crisis were men - | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
you can say that again! Mrs Thatcher was the only woman at dinner. After | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
the toasts, the Prime Minister rose in her seat again and said | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
"Gentlemen, shall we join the ladies?!" It may well have been the | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
happiest moment of her life.' And that captures very well the way | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
in which the Falklands set the seal on the first of her premierships and | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
the way it turned it around; and also reminds us of the unlikely | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
nature of her rise to power and the even more unlikely story of how she | :14:22. | :14:43. | |
got a grip on it. The range of books on the Samuel | :14:44. | :14:46. | |
Johnson Prize shortlist reveal how non-fiction is diversifying. | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
There's been an exciting development in non-fiction in that writers don't | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
feel a book needs to be pigeonholed into a certain type of genre. There | :14:58. | :15:04. | |
seem to be no rules any more about what's allowable or justifiable for | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
a writer to do. There's a desire for readers now to have an individual's | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
take and what that is very overtly an individual's take on a subject | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
rather than this distant, authoritative third person type of | :15:18. | :15:24. | |
book. Several of the books on this year's | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
shortlist reflect this more personal approach and revel in the journey a | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
book can take you on. Amongst these is William Dalrymple's | :15:33. | :15:35. | |
Return of a King, his riveting and brilliantly researched account of | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
the First Afghan War. Critic, author and former Prize Judge, Diana | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
Athill, has been appraising the book. | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
Return of a King tells the story of the British invasion of Afghanistan | :15:50. | :15:52. | |
in 1839 and its disastrous consequences. | :15:53. | :16:00. | |
I think William Dalrymple has won me over completely because when he | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
writes history he goes into it through people. And he then gives | :16:04. | :16:11. | |
you the whole cast. You get the feeling you are actually going into | :16:12. | :16:27. | |
the past, which is what I love. Things started to unravel for the | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
British not long after the invasion. The Afghans rebelled, forcing the | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
British to retreat. And in a last stand, hundreds of foot soldiers | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
were killed. It was the biggest military | :16:39. | :16:40. | |
humiliation the British had suffered. | :16:41. | :16:46. | |
I've come to the Army and Navy club in London to meet William Dalrymple. | :16:47. | :16:52. | |
Some of the stories in his book are quite hard to take, not least the | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
story of the British revenge on the Afghans. | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
One needs a pretty strong stomach to read what happened? | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
The British behaved in Afghanistan in exactly the way Nazi storm | :17:08. | :17:10. | |
troopers behaved in the Second World War. Villages are burnt down, men, | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
women and children of any age are slaughtered on mass. They leave | :17:15. | :17:17. | |
Kabul, this garden city, the main bazaar city of central Asia, a burnt | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
ruin. And they withdraw. One feels very ashamed by it. | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
There are good reasons to feel ashamed. | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
I know there are tremendous parallels between then and now. | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
What struck me over the last ten years, when the British and | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
Americans went back into Afghanistan so foolishly - anyone who knows | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
there history, knew it was going to end well - was to see history | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
repeating itself. You have a war based on doctored intelligence, | :17:47. | :17:56. | |
pushed by a bunch of hawks. As it goes on, the relevance to now | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
becomes absolutely scorching. You feel you have to write so fast | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
before it goes up all in smoke in front of you. There were lessons out | :18:05. | :18:07. | |
there, which you were longing for people to read. | :18:08. | :18:09. | |
What makes William's work so original is that he tells it from | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
both sides, travelling to Afghanistan to uncover new sources | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
and visit locations from the story. You were actually on the ground, you | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
had to go into the same places - which can't have been too simple | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
nowadays? Some places are terribly safe. Kabul | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
itself is like a French finishing school, full of, you know, handsome | :18:32. | :18:34. | |
Italian archaeologists and gorgeous French girls out digging, and | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
working in NGOs. But you only have to go five miles outside the city | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
and it's a very different world, it's the Wild West and you never | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
know what's going to happen. As we left the airport, I had a sniper | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
shot in the back window of my car. Immediately behind my head, as we | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
were leaving the airport, you know within half-an-hour of arriving. | :18:57. | :18:58. | |
In the book, the characters come under fire too when the British | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
retreat en masse after the Afghan rebellion. | :19:03. | :19:05. | |
It's the finest hour for one of my favourite personalities in the | :19:06. | :19:07. | |
story, Lady Sale, the tough wife of a British General. | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
Lady Sale... ...is splendid! | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
If anyone makes a movie of this war, then Lady Sale has to be the | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
heroine. And she is one of the best eyewitnesses for the terrible | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
retreat. HE READS: 'We had not proceeded half | :19:23. | :19:32. | |
a mile before we were fired upon. The pony my daughter rode was | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
wounded in the ear and in the neck. I fortunately had only one musket | :19:37. | :19:39. | |
ball in my arm. Three others passed through my coat, near the shoulder, | :19:40. | :19:42. | |
without doing me any injury.' And these last British women get | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
taken hostage the following night and are taken off. And Lady Sale | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
eventually leads a jailbreak of the hostages and none of the men will | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
help her and she drags the guns and says, "Do I have to do this on my | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
own?" And she shoots dead the jailer - it's all very dramatic stuff. She | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
has one of the great epitaphs of imperial history. It simply reads: | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
'Here lies all that could die of Lady Sale'. | :20:06. | :20:11. | |
Oh wonderful! From the wilds of Afghanistan, to a | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
journey closer to home undertaken by Charlotte Higgins, whose outstanding | :20:16. | :20:17. | |
book Under Another Sky explores our rich relationship with Roman | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
Britain. Sam Leith is once more our guide. | :20:25. | :20:31. | |
This is no ordinary book on Roman Britain. It involves a trip in a VW | :20:32. | :20:38. | |
campervan. It's sort of part travelogue, part | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
scholarship in which Charlotte Higgins, arts writer for the | :20:42. | :20:43. | |
Guardian and her boyfriend, sort of schlepp around all over the UK in | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
search of such Roman remains that there are. It's a kind of road trip, | :20:48. | :20:57. | |
a Roman road trip. We have this preconceived idea that | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
there was a point in which the Romans gave up, turned on their | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
heels and hugged off and that was it. And instead she says there are | :21:05. | :21:15. | |
all these hangovers from Rome. King Arthur, the Arthurian legend, which | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
we think of as very English, are actually a folk memory of the Roman | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
occupation. You could say: what have the Romans ever done for us? And it | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
answers that question in spades. The book reveals how Roman Britain | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
has fed our cultural imaginations from medieval writers to war poets | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
and musicians. But Higgins also attempts to peel | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
back all these layers of history to find the real Roman voices. | :21:38. | :21:47. | |
There's a magical moment in the book when she is looking through some | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
Roman letters - known as the Vindolanda tablets - in the British | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
Museum. And she comes upon what could be the | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
very first example of a woman's handwriting in the whole of history | :21:59. | :22:04. | |
of Roman Empire. HE READS: 'The words Anima Mea | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
Karissima, my dearest soul, may have been a bland formula but I none the | :22:10. | :22:12. | |
less felt ambushed by the affection and sweetness in them. The years | :22:13. | :22:18. | |
seemed to collapse as I read it, picking out the faint, spidery Latin | :22:19. | :22:22. | |
on the dull wood. I read the words over and over again and thought of | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
the lost life of the woman who wrote them.' | :22:27. | :22:28. | |
Like a travel book, the chapters are arranged by region as Higgins | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
journeys around the bleak, windswept outposts of Roman Britain. | :22:32. | :22:46. | |
Colchester is a sort of key place in the book, as it's absolutely | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
surrounded and full of Roman stuff. As she says, there's that sense of | :22:53. | :22:56. | |
the Romans being here at the beginning and everything else | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
building on top. It becomes a sort of model for exactly what she | :23:01. | :23:03. | |
described in cities and towns all over the country. | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
Every age finds the Rome it looks for in a sense. So to excavate Rome | :23:10. | :23:17. | |
is to find a strange distorting mirror in which you see yourself. | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
From ancient Britain we head to 20th Century Italy. Stella Tillyard has | :23:22. | :23:27. | |
been reading Lucy Hughes-Hallett's The Pike, a brilliant biography of | :23:28. | :23:29. | |
the controversial poet, Gabriele D'Annunzio. | :23:30. | :23:36. | |
You can't imagine a more outlandish or multi-faceted character than the | :23:37. | :23:42. | |
subject of this biography. D'Annunzio was a best-selling poet. | :23:43. | :23:50. | |
A prolific writer. A dandy and a lothario. But he's also remembered | :23:51. | :23:55. | |
for his politics of nationalism and blood sacrifice that inspired the | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
Fascists who followed him. I think in the first place it's a | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
real rollicking read of a really extravagant character that we | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
perhaps don't know very much about. D'Annunzio leaps off the page as a | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
larger-than-life character but she also shows the dark side of the man | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
- a rabble-rousing, rhetorical figure, who concentrates attention | :24:14. | :24:15. | |
to himself at times of economic stress - and Italy has thrown these | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
up through the course of the 20th Century. First, Mussolini, then | :24:20. | :24:22. | |
Berlusconi, but D'Annunzio was the first - and they're still coming. | :24:23. | :24:35. | |
In my local Italian, I am meeting author Lucy Hughes-Hallett to talk | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
about what she makes of her dangerously seductive character. | :24:39. | :24:47. | |
He may be in many ways deplorable. But he's never dull. I repeatedly | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
found myself saying - how can you say that? How can you think these | :24:52. | :24:58. | |
thoughts? And it seems to me perhaps quite an interesting question, it is | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
quite possible for people who hold abhorrent opinions to be charming. | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
D'Annunzio was a deeply-cultured, widely-read, brilliant poet and, in | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
general, he wasn't a brute. Except to women, maybe? | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
Ah, yes, but women loved him. It takes two. | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
Of course, there is all the time another side to him, there's a kind | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
of emptiness, a dark side. Yes, well, D'Annunzio believed that | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
war was a jolly good thing - it was virile, it was energetic, and a new | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
nation - and of course Italy at the time was a brand-new nation - | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
needed, he said, a baptism of blood. That's a very D'Annunzian concept. | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
One thing you say is D'Annunzio is not a Fascist but Fascism was | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
D'Annunzian. For one thing, Mussolini comes a | :25:46. | :25:47. | |
generation after D'Annunzio, but it's not just politics that | :25:48. | :25:50. | |
Mussolini learned from D'Annunzio, it's a way of doing politics - the | :25:51. | :25:53. | |
importance of the parade, the spectacle, the songs, the uniforms, | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
the ritual and ceremony of politics. So he understood politics as | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
theatre. D'Annunzian politics reached its | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
peak in 1918 when he took over a city called Fiume, in modern | :26:06. | :26:08. | |
Croatia, declared it part of Italy and himself its ruler. | :26:09. | :26:18. | |
SHE READS: 'He was welcomed into the city by rapturous crowds who had | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
been up all night waiting for him. An officer, passing through the main | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
square in the early hours of that morning, saw it filled with women, | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
wearing evening dress and carrying guns. An image that nicely | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
encapsulates the nature of the place. At once a phantasmogorical | :26:36. | :26:37. | |
party and a battleground.' Certainly, he used it as a stage on | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
which to project himself and made himself the star of the show. | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
Without parallel in European, 20th Century European life. | :26:47. | :26:53. | |
I think it is. D'Annunzio's influence is still | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
felt, even here in London, where the local Italian church has a war | :26:57. | :27:07. | |
memorial inscribed with his words. It says, "Non Invano Moriste - he | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
didn't die in vain, O sweet sons of noble Latin blood." | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
Well, this is a very typical D'Annunzian sentiment, combining | :27:16. | :27:17. | |
blood and the idea of sacrificing yourself for your Fatherland. Here | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
we are in a sacred setting outside a church so that the combination of | :27:24. | :27:26. | |
religion, of slaughter and of beauty and poetry is something that | :27:27. | :27:45. | |
D'Annunzio epitomises. Trying to pick one of these six | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
books as the winner of the Samuel Johnson Prize is not a task I envy | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
the judges. Almost impossible to do as they are all, in their own | :27:54. | :27:56. | |
different ways, remarkable books. But ultimately they have to pick a | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
winner, and I'm being asked to choose what I think would win this | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
year and I'd like to pick William Dalrymple's Return of a King. | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
I think he's managed to do something really extraordinary here. It's a | :28:08. | :28:09. | |
book that I absolutely raced through, enjoying enormously as well | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
as being fascinated by the things I was learning along the way. What he | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
does is not only capture what happened then in a way that no-one | :28:17. | :28:19. | |
has done previously, but he also reminds us how history repeats | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
itself. And in that respect, he's written a book that's of its time, | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
but of our time too, and I think that's a great achievement. | :28:28. | :28:36. | |
If you're interested in who's won, the winner will be announced next | :28:37. | :28:39. | |
week on 4th November. | :28:40. | :28:46. |