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It's not often that an exhibition at Tate Britain celebrates

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the work of one man, who wasn't even an artist.

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But Sir Kenneth Clark was no ordinary man.

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His list of achievements was staggering,

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with Clark seemingly occupying every key cultural post going.

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It's dazzling, you know,

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he was keeper of the Ashmolean in his 20s,

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director of the National Gallery at 30,

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head of home publicity at the Ministry of Information in the war,

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chairman of the Arts Council, he was trustee of everything.

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I mean, the amazing thing is he got anything done at all.

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But it was arguably as a television presenter that Clark

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made the greatest impact.

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Fired by a deeply-held belief that art was for everyone,

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he was one of the first to embrace the new medium,

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making it his mission to bring art to the masses.

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Good television deals with real life, and I think it's a very

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serious matter that it should be said that anyone

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interested in the arts shouldn't concern themselves with television.

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Today, he's best remembered for his epic 13-part BBC series

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Civilisation, which was televised in 1969.

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Tackling over 1,000 years of history, it was the most

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ambitious series ever made, and hailed by many as a masterpiece.

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I'm standing in the Sistine Chapel.

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Above my head is one of the greatest works of man -

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Michelangelo's ceiling.

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But by the early '70s,

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his take on art history was already being challenged

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by a new generation for being elitist

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and out of step with the changing times.

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In the clash between traditionalism

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and radicalism that erupted in the late '60s and early '70s,

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it would always be clear which corner Clark was defending.

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And yet Clark was never a man who could be easily boxed in.

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One of the fascinating things about Clark is

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he is completely contradictory.

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He seems to be condescending, rather grand, rather formal,

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and yet he is genuinely a populariser driven by a belief

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in democratising art and culture, making it available to everybody.

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He was very much of his class, that is to say upper-class, English,

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well-bred, but at the same time, beneath that,

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there were all kinds of passions.

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He adored the arts, they were his life,

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and he wanted other people to see why they were so important.

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Spanning most of the 20th century,

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Clark's story reflects the wider issues in Britain

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at the time, taking in our attitudes to class, gender and society,

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as well as the shifting values placed on high and low culture.

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In 1953, Kenneth Clark bought this castle in Kent,

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which would become his home for the next 30 years.

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Filled with the art he collected over a lifetime,

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Saltwood Castle remains a rich archival reserve, a gift

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for any biographer attempting to capture Clark's elusive character.

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'To be appointed the authorised biographer of Kenneth Clark

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'is a daunting, massive task, and one I don't underestimate at all.'

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Because the first thing you realise about Clark is that he doesn't want

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to be caught. He has this genius for disengagement.

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He disengages from people,

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from organisations, from ideas.

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He doesn't want to belong to any tribe.

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I spent a year in the Tate Britain archive,

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and even at the end of all that,

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I'm not entirely sure I understood the figure I am writing about.

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I think here, he's much easier to understand,

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because you feel him everywhere.

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-Hello, Jane.

-Hello.

-How lovely to see you.

-And you!

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Looking lovely here.

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-The daffodils are really good this year, aren't they?

-Fantastic.

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'The person who has kept Saltwood up and going

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'and has done an amazing job is Jane Clark, his daughter-in-law.'

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Oh, look, isn't that wonderful?

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'And she was the one who appointed me

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'and she's been marvellous, and she, on her own, single-handedly, keeps

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'the whole place going, and keeps this temple of Clark alive.'

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This is my father-in-law's study,

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where he came every day to do his work.

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But he never actually sat at the desk. He was very keen everyone

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should know that he always sat, as you see, at that window.

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It's very important to keep it... keep it as a sort of...

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not quite a shrine, but just in memory of him.

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Really, everything is more or less as he left it.

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In fairness, there's a bit of clutter,

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and actually, wonderfully, in this are still his chocolates -

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long past their sell-by date, but the chocolates have remained.

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Sir Kenneth Clark, in an essay that you wrote about your childhood,

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you said that you were brought up in a rich,

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sporting and philistine atmosphere.

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It's not the sort of background that one imagines you would have had.

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What was it like?

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Well, I found it - as I said in that essay - I found it very agreeable.

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I was an only child - only children are supposed to be lonely

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and unhappy - I was extremely happy.

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I was very largely neglected by my parents. I didn't mind that at all.

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I was looked after by a divine Scottish governess.

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And that's all I asked.

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Well, we were brought up by my mother,

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told that he had a terribly miserable childhood,

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and was very lonely and wasn't really happy at all.

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His later thing that it was all fine, I think, perhaps, was an invention.

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But he didn't suffer from self-pity or self-analysis.

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All these things are new things. He hated self-analysis.

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I think that he probably was periodically very unhappy,

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and lonely. I think "lonely" is the word.

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He didn't have enough children to play with.

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I think this was the problem,

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he didn't have siblings or friends of his parents' children -

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there was just nobody for him to relate to. And I think

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this explains why he spent the rest of his life with what Henry Moore

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called "the glass shield". There was always this sense of him

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being slightly aloof,

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and I'm sure that's to do with his solitary childhood.

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His was a pretty peculiar background.

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I mean, his father, very rich and drank too much,

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and lived for sporting things, but he did buy pictures.

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His mother, he described her as rather Quakerish and prim,

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and frightened of emotion.

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So he would have to evolve something from those two

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amazingly contrasting personalities,

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and he did it partly by his emotional outlet through the arts.

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I started to enjoy works of art at a very early age.

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It was what is called, I believe, a freak aptitude.

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My grandmother gave me a book on the Louvre when I was seven years old.

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I have it, still. And from then on I went on loving works of art.

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I think, in this rather solitary childhood, I think

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art was an awakening for him.

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He lived, breathed, slept, thought art.

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Art was a complete obsession for him.

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The other great love of Clark's life was his wife, Jane,

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whom he'd met whilst reading history at Oxford University in 1925.

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This series of photos of my mother-in-law show her,

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and she was wonderfully elegant,

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she had the most beautiful clothes by Schiaparelli.

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In fact, I was very lucky, because when I was first married,

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I was slim enough to get into a wonderful evening gown

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she had with a terrific brocaded bodice.

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She had an amazing eye.

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And he relied on Jane's judgment of works of art.

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Bonded by a mutual love of art, Jane would become Clark's soul mate.

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But their 50-year marriage would not be without its problems.

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I think what's very important to say is that Jane, his wife,

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was the love of his life.

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She was central to everything.

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But there's a point in their marriage where I think

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she starts to be unhappy.

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I think she's prescribed these drugs which we now know contained cocaine,

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and she starts drinking.

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At this point, I think the girlfriends come in,

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and I think they start giving him this uncritical love

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and support that Jane is not giving him at that point.

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In public, though, their problems were set aside,

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with Jane stepping up to her role as the beautiful and dutiful

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wife of her young, charismatic and very successful husband.

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By the early 1930s,

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Clark had become a hugely respected art historian,

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keeper of both the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford and the King's Pictures.

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And Jane would prove vital to the success of what Clark would

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later dub "The Great Clark Boom" years.

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I think people liked her very much. She was much easier than K.

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People found K Olympian, aloof, they were terrified of him,

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whereas they found her easy and charming,

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and I think that she was the glue.

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People came for dinner because it was always Jane and K.

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This elegant Georgian town house was where the Clarks

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entertained their guests, surrounded by Clark's impressive

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and rapidly growing art collection.

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You see the wonderful photographs of it that show

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the great paintings from his collection and drawings.

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Every surface has a carefully arranged group of objects.

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One of the unique things about Clark is that he is doing this as

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a great expert, he's one of the few art historians of his generation,

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so he brings this immense specialist knowledge to his collecting,

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but he wants to have a way of life in which these beautiful things

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are a part of it and he clearly sees that as everybody's right.

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In 1934, the perfect opportunity for Clark to share his love of art

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with the general public presented itself when, aged just 30,

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he was appointed the youngest ever director of the National Gallery.

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The National Gallery gives him

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this extraordinary bit of national kit to play for,

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and he begins to reinvigorate it,

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because he brings a real love of pictures,

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a real love of art, and a love of communicating about it.

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It's the first step in the creation of this public figure

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that's going to emerge later.

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Even when the outbreak of war in 1939 threatened a total

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cultural blackout, Clark managed to make the National Gallery

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a shining beacon of hope for the nation.

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As a top civil servant, Clark was exempt from National Service,

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but he proved to be invaluable on the Home Front.

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When the war came, there was a real sense

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that the cultural treasures of the nation were profoundly threatened

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by the bombings of the Luftwaffe...

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..and Clark arranged for the collection to be taken

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to a huge cave in Wales.

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In a covert, complicated operation, Clark oversaw

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the evacuation of all the National Gallery's treasures, which were

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stored in specially air-conditioned shelters deep under the ground.

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And then, rather brilliantly,

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he arranged for one painting a month to be brought back to London

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and presented in the gallery as a kind of little symbol of resistance.

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The Second World War turns him

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from a rarefied social butterfly with a beautiful wife

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and a beautiful house into something much more robust

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and strong and interesting. It gives him a sense of a wider purpose.

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Putting culture at the heart

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of what is a national struggle for survival.

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Soon after war broke out, Clark was invited by the government

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to head up the Ministry of Information's Film Division.

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This is an incendiary bomb that burns very

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violently for the first minute, but after that, it can be tackled.

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During the war, he's at the Ministry of Information,

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and he's in charge of how to think about home publicity.

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What are we fighting for?

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And he marshals the arts into battle.

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He tries to think that we were fighting for certain values

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that are best expressed through the arts,

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and he does it absolutely brilliantly.

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Never one to follow rank, Clark was nevertheless quick to spot the

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potential of film to get his message across, and made sure an initiative

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he'd set up - the War Artists Advisory Committee - was the focus

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of a key propaganda film of the time, Jill Craigie's Out Of Chaos.

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ARCHIVE: Sir Kenneth Clark, director of the National Gallery,

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suggested that artists should be employed to record the war

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and the government backed up his proposal.

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They set up a committee to choose artists who could make

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a record of the war.

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Not simply a record of the facts,

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but a record of what the war felt like.

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Let's begin with Paul Nash.

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He wanted his pictures to make images on the popular mind,

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images encouraging to ourselves, but depressing to the enemy.

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For Clark, Out Of Chaos was much more than just a morale-booster.

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It was a manifesto, a chance to express all his most

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deep-seated beliefs about the role and function of art.

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In 1935, he writes an article

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called The Future Of Painting,

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where he criticises on the one hand the Surrealists...

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..and on the other, abstract artists, for claiming

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to be the future. He is saying neither of them will represent

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the future of painting because they are too elitist and specialised.

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Good art, for him, is accessible to everybody,

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and so needs to be rooted in the observable world.

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-ARCHIVE:

-Here is the quarry and here is the artist.

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He wants to get the feel of the place.

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In Clark's view, the three contemporary artists

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who best connected with the common experience were Graham Sutherland,

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John Piper and Henry Moore.

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-ARCHIVE:

-One of the most moving scenes of the Blitz

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was the sight of the tube shelters. On almost any night during a raid,

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this figure might have been seen wandering about.

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Henry Moore, the sculptor.

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Moore tells this typical story of how he stumbled across the subject.

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He was in London during a raid and goes down into the tube

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and comes across the people who are sheltering there.

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But I think there is some evidence it wasn't this accidental discovery.

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The minutes of the War Artists Advisory Committee show them

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discussing the people in the underground as a subject

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that should be recorded.

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And the very next meeting, a month later, Clark comes along and says,

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"I saw Henry Moore the other day and he's started doing the pictures."

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That may be a happy coincidence.

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But there is the sense, possibly, that Clark maybe encouraged

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Moore to think about the subject.

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It perfectly fits Clark's idea of patronage, that he knows Moore

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is an artist interested in tight, claustrophobic spaces

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and the human figure, so it would be a typical Clarkian

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move to encourage him to look at the people in the underground.

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-ARCHIVE:

-This is the National Gallery on a Saturday afternoon.

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It's amazing to find it so crowded.

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It used not to look like this in the old days of peace.

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The work of Moore, Sutherland

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and Piper provided the centrepieces of the War Artists Advisory

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Committee exhibitions that Clark staged at the National Gallery.

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The fact that those works are shown in the National Gallery means

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that by the end of the war, those artists are household names.

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Oh, yes, John Piper, of course.

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What interesting tone value, don't you think?

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Moore, Sutherland, Piper. The triumvirate, if you like,

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whom he really does kind of make.

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He clearly has in his mind a kind of hierarchy,

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and he knows that these three are head and shoulders above the rest.

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Clark's influence grew enormously during the war.

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He became a beneficent figure.

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As a young artist, if you could get Clark's blessing on your work,

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that would hugely advance your career.

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So he was like an unofficial Pope of the art world.

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The other side of that is that if you are making art

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he doesn't favour or support, then it can be disadvantageous.

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Certainly in the war, artists like Ben Nicholson,

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who in the 1930s was probably the best-known avant-garde artist

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in Britain, was completely ignored and left out of all the war artist

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schemes recording Britain, and that caused great financial hardship.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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I am very proud to be able to congratulate Harlow,

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on behalf of all those who believe in civilisation,

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on maintaining the great tradition of urban civilisation

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by their decision to make, in the centre of their new town...

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Make a work of art the centre of their new town.

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It was perhaps Henry Moore out of all Clark's favoured artists

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who would benefit most from Clark's patronage through the years.

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But the relationship was not all one-sided.

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I think that K probably felt that my father was his best friend.

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But they were very different characters.

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K was stiff, and formal and distant, incredibly polite,

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whereas my father was a complete extrovert and naturally

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gregarious, loved people, had a real curiosity in people.

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I don't know if K actually liked people.

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My father was able to get in touch very easily

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with his subconscious.

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The way he was able to talk about things

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and express things in a very physical way

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possibly complemented K's extreme intellectuality.

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When the war ended, Clark retreated from the front line,

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giving up his directorship of the National Gallery to take up

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the top academic post of Slade Professor of Fine Art at Oxford,

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where he gave a series of famous lectures.

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I had been to one Slade lecture, and that was the first time

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I ever saw him in the flesh. He was the most marvellous lecturer.

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He was the greatest lecturer, people thought, of the age.

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Lecturing was what he did, he was like a magician lecturing.

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But for Clark, preaching to the already-converted from Oxford's

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elitist spires was never going to be challenging enough.

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He recognises that being a scholar buried in the archives

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for his life isn't what he was born to do, that too much of him

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enjoys being a public figure and that too much of him

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knows he can be very effective as a public figure.

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-ARCHIVE:

-This is the British Broadcasting Corporation.

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Throughout the 1940s, Clark was repeatedly invited to give

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talks on BBC Radio, where he became a star guest.

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The BBC, as it did with all members of the great and good,

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pursued him relentlessly to give interesting talks

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for three guineas, and that is because it is always looking

0:22:060:22:10

for people who know stuff and can communicate.

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Five seconds. Stand by two.

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Superimpose. Mix through. Cue on two!

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When the BBC began its television broadcasting in earnest

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in the early 1950s, everyone assumed Clark would return

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to Auntie to continue his art education for the masses.

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But in 1954, he surprised everyone by becoming the first

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chairman of the new Independent Television Authority.

0:22:370:22:40

My lords, ladies and gentlemen,

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on behalf of the Independent Television Authority,

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it is my privilege to welcome you all tonight,

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and my welcome extends beyond the 500 guests

0:22:510:22:56

that we are delighted to see here to the million and more who can see us.

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We thought Ken Clark was a BBC man.

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For him to go to what was then,

0:23:070:23:09

to some of the more engrained public service broadcasters,

0:23:090:23:12

the infidel,

0:23:120:23:15

the commercial television,

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was a surprise.

0:23:180:23:20

I think there was a sense that he'd gone over to the dark side,

0:23:220:23:27

and that he was going to devalue in some way or reject

0:23:270:23:32

all of the sort of high art

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and values that he seems to have stood for before.

0:23:350:23:39

It is very difficult for people who have grown up with it to realise

0:23:410:23:44

that the only commercial television anybody here knew about

0:23:440:23:48

was American television.

0:23:480:23:50

I know I have benefitted from using Antizyme toothpaste.

0:23:500:23:54

..bursts into luxuriantly rich lathers...

0:23:540:23:56

There's nothing like Saran-Wrap!

0:23:560:23:58

All the people who had been brought up with the BBC here were appalled by it.

0:23:580:24:03

It was vulgar, it was trashy, it was inaccurate -

0:24:040:24:08

it was rubbish, actually.

0:24:080:24:10

And it's non-habit-forming!

0:24:100:24:12

So the establishment here thought it would all be like that

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and it was partly down to K that it wasn't.

0:24:200:24:22

One of the reasons why he takes it, I think, is that he was

0:24:270:24:31

always against monopolies of all kinds.

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He thought monopolies were simply a bad thing, and at that point

0:24:340:24:39

the BBC had a monopoly of TV, and he wanted to see that challenged.

0:24:390:24:44

We neglected to notice that he also had a very strong social

0:24:460:24:51

conscience, that he thought that pictures and architecture

0:24:510:24:57

enriched everyone, not just an educated elite.

0:24:570:25:01

Sir Kenneth Clark, let's be frank about this,

0:25:010:25:05

you as one of the experts on the arts in this

0:25:050:25:07

country are in some quarters considered to have sold

0:25:070:25:11

the past by encouraging, by your work, the development of television.

0:25:110:25:15

Now, what is your reply to this charge, which is fairly widespread?

0:25:150:25:19

Well, it makes me very angry, really.

0:25:190:25:23

I think it shows a complete lack of imagination.

0:25:230:25:26

And it suggests, which is the most infuriating part,

0:25:260:25:29

that people who have an interest in the arts are a kind of

0:25:290:25:33

segregated part of the population, a kind of Indian preserve who

0:25:330:25:38

have no connection with the mass of people and with ordinary life.

0:25:380:25:43

And I think it's a very serious matter that it should be said

0:25:430:25:47

that anyone with any interest in the arts shouldn't concern

0:25:470:25:50

themselves with television.

0:25:500:25:52

If Clark had shocked the BBC mandarins by becoming

0:25:540:25:57

the first ITA chairman, then he also surprised the Tory government

0:25:570:26:02

who'd appointed him by not conforming to type.

0:26:020:26:05

Quite what the Tory's expected from him, nobody knows,

0:26:050:26:09

but they very rapidly realised that Clark was actually

0:26:090:26:12

not going to toe the party line,

0:26:120:26:14

he wasn't going to toe any line, and was going to be his own man.

0:26:140:26:19

He wasn't a right wing person at all,

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and there was a time very early on, when he was at the Arts Council -

0:26:230:26:30

apparently someone in Kent had asked Lady Clark for a subscription

0:26:300:26:35

to the local Conservative Party,

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and she'd said, "No, my husband

0:26:370:26:39

"is a quasi-civil service establishment, and he can't be shown

0:26:390:26:42

"to have political preferences."

0:26:420:26:44

And K said to me, "So, the word has gone round that the castle is red.

0:26:460:26:51

"Not so far from the truth after all!"

0:26:510:26:53

So that was quite revealing,

0:26:550:26:58

although he had plenty of friends on both sides of the House.

0:26:580:27:00

He wasn't a toff, although he was friends with a lot of toffs

0:27:030:27:06

and conservatives, politicians. He said the greatest thing

0:27:060:27:11

the English ever did was elect a Labour government after the war.

0:27:110:27:17

He was always Labour. Always.

0:27:170:27:21

In the summer of 1957,

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Clark's chairmanship of the ITA came to an end,

0:27:270:27:30

and he immediately signed a contract to act as consultant

0:27:300:27:33

and presenter for Lew Grade's new ATV company.

0:27:330:27:37

It was an unlikely pairing, but one that worked.

0:27:370:27:41

I think he loved people like Lew Grade a great deal

0:27:410:27:44

because he was so different to him. Because he was so repressed,

0:27:440:27:48

in a sense, I think he loved these people who had, if you like,

0:27:480:27:52

the confidence of being outrageous. So Lew and he got on very well.

0:27:520:27:57

Lew adored the way he talked about art.

0:27:570:28:01

He would say, "Tell me about art, Kenneth."

0:28:010:28:04

-ARCHIVE:

-ATV presents "Is Art Necessary?"

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The leader of our exploration is Sir Kenneth Clark,

0:28:100:28:12

who might really be called

0:28:120:28:15

one of the world's greatest experts on art.

0:28:150:28:17

Under the provocative title "Is Art Necessary?",

0:28:170:28:21

Clark devised a series of wide-ranging programmes,

0:28:210:28:25

targeted at a broad audience, but tackling complex

0:28:250:28:28

ideas on aesthetics.

0:28:280:28:30

The first one, he decides, will take on the idea of beauty.

0:28:300:28:34

Because beauty is pretty abstract and a slightly difficult concept,

0:28:340:28:39

he has what he thinks is rather a good idea - to begin with,

0:28:390:28:44

his son Alan's Great Dane, and with people saying, "Isn't he beautiful?"

0:28:440:28:51

and trying to break that down and understand what

0:28:510:28:54

they mean by saying that.

0:28:540:28:56

-ARCHIVE: Isn't he beautiful?

-Isn't he beautiful?

-Isn't he beautiful?

0:28:580:29:03

Beautiful. Beautiful. It's a good old word, you know?

0:29:030:29:07

Not much used by modern critics of art,

0:29:070:29:09

but they all seem to know what they meant by it, didn't they?

0:29:090:29:12

It was an ambitious start to his presenting career,

0:29:140:29:17

but one that, as Clark himself readily admitted,

0:29:170:29:21

turned out to be a spectacular failure.

0:29:210:29:23

So you really can control the proportions of a bull terrier.

0:29:230:29:28

That's, of course, what people through the Renaissance always wanted

0:29:280:29:31

to do with the human figure, and what Leonardo da Vinci tried to do

0:29:310:29:34

with horses, and got into great trouble, had to go down to the 900th

0:29:340:29:38

part of a horse in order to get his proportions right.

0:29:380:29:40

I'm glad that the bull terrier was more accommodating!

0:29:400:29:43

'It is pretty much a disaster.

0:29:450:29:48

'It is shapeless, it doesn't know what it is trying to do.'

0:29:480:29:52

-Let's have a look, if we can, at those horses.

-There they are, yes.

0:29:520:29:56

You can see him in his chair, leaning back,

0:29:560:29:59

and sort of talking "de haut en bas" to the audience.

0:29:590:30:04

It is a very, very uncomfortable programme.

0:30:040:30:06

-I don't expect many of our viewers have a warthog on the hearth.

-No.

0:30:060:30:10

And in his autobiography he says he thought

0:30:100:30:12

he was going to be fired after this first programme.

0:30:120:30:14

But Lew Grade wasn't going to give up on Clark that easily,

0:30:180:30:21

and backed his new presenter as he continued to tackle ever more

0:30:210:30:25

complex and contentious issues.

0:30:250:30:27

Many people think it involves a room something like this.

0:30:290:30:34

Very light colour,

0:30:340:30:36

furniture perched on rather thin legs.

0:30:360:30:42

All very straight and simple.

0:30:420:30:44

One has the feeling that if a large, heavy man came in

0:30:440:30:47

and sat down suddenly, the furniture would collapse.

0:30:470:30:51

Or if one opened a bottle of stout, or as they would say in the BBC,

0:30:510:30:54

a bottle of Guinness, he'd make a terrible mess.

0:30:540:30:57

When you look at a programme like "What Is Good Taste?" now,

0:30:570:31:01

there's a sense in which it looks rather ridiculous to us today, and

0:31:010:31:06

speaks of a set of values that feels completely alien to where we are.

0:31:060:31:12

Should that be understood as condescending?

0:31:120:31:15

I don't really think it should.

0:31:150:31:16

I think it should be understood as an uneasy

0:31:160:31:19

and far from successful attempt to visualise quite a complicated idea

0:31:190:31:25

for a broad audience.

0:31:250:31:28

What is bad taste?

0:31:300:31:33

Well, many people would suppose

0:31:330:31:35

it's something like the room that I'm in now.

0:31:350:31:38

I must honestly say that in some ways

0:31:450:31:49

I find it rather cosier than the other room. I can relax in it.

0:31:490:31:54

I can open a bottle of stout in this room without trepidation.

0:31:540:31:57

And as a matter of fact,

0:31:570:31:59

more people I like live in a room like this than in the other room.

0:31:590:32:04

I think what he's saying there is that it's more humane.

0:32:040:32:07

He recognises that bad taste often has a humanity about it,

0:32:070:32:12

and good taste can be terribly visceral and cold

0:32:120:32:17

and you know, he was trying to say

0:32:170:32:20

that ducks up the wall show humanity and heart and soul.

0:32:200:32:24

That programme caused quite a lot of umbrage

0:32:250:32:29

but it would cause more now

0:32:290:32:30

because you mustn't be judgmental about anything

0:32:300:32:33

and he certainly was. "Oh, frightful," he'd say.

0:32:330:32:37

That clock is supposed to be a piece of beautifully carved

0:32:370:32:42

and chaste ormolu, in the French Louis XV style.

0:32:420:32:47

When in fact, it's moulded and all the ornament is dull

0:32:470:32:52

and meaningless and stupid.

0:32:520:32:54

But he certainly wasn't a social snob.

0:32:540:32:58

He really enjoyed people from every walk of life.

0:32:580:33:02

Papa was adorable to everybody. Everybody adored him,

0:33:040:33:07

and from the highest to the lowest, he was totally non-snobbish

0:33:070:33:12

about people. He was just as adorable to the charlady to whom he

0:33:120:33:17

would give wonderful lectures on art, as he was to the grandest person.

0:33:170:33:22

Having introduced complex abstract ideas into people's living rooms,

0:33:230:33:28

Clark then set about testing the nation's views

0:33:280:33:31

on abstract art itself.

0:33:310:33:33

Art may be all right to some people, but I don't know very much about it, I'm afraid.

0:33:330:33:39

I don't understand abstract art as well as I do the theatre.

0:33:390:33:42

Well, I'm not a lover of it. I'm not a lover of it at all.

0:33:420:33:48

In his attempts to educate the viewing public about the value

0:33:480:33:51

of modern art, Clark clearly faced an uphill struggle.

0:33:510:33:56

But when the Tate staged a retrospective of Picasso's work

0:33:560:33:59

in 1960, he was brave enough to venture away

0:33:590:34:02

from his area of expertise and take up the challenge

0:34:020:34:05

of explaining Picasso to a broadly sceptical audience.

0:34:050:34:09

Picasso, although one of the most compelling of artists,

0:34:090:34:13

is also one of the most incomprehensible.

0:34:130:34:15

He is quoted as saying, "Why should people try to understand me?

0:34:150:34:20

"They don't try to understand the song of a bird."

0:34:200:34:23

Well, that sounds all right but actually,

0:34:230:34:25

it won't do because Picasso isn't a bird.

0:34:250:34:28

He's a human being.

0:34:280:34:29

What is extraordinary about it and it really struck me as forcibly

0:34:290:34:34

was that his mode of address to the audience is

0:34:340:34:40

so refreshingly humane and direct.

0:34:400:34:46

When we go round the exhibition, we can't help asking questions.

0:34:460:34:50

Now, I ought to confess that I'm not the ideal person to answer them,

0:34:520:34:56

because I very often don't understand Picasso myself.

0:34:560:35:00

He starts from a very extraordinary premise,

0:35:000:35:03

"You may not like all of this".

0:35:030:35:05

But he makes it clear you can get a lot out of paintings that

0:35:050:35:09

were neither pretty, and sometimes were neither pretty nor good,

0:35:090:35:13

actually, and that is a very sophisticated lesson.

0:35:130:35:17

In his attack on the human body,

0:35:170:35:20

he isn't content merely to make graphic simplifications

0:35:200:35:23

as a whole, he takes the individual bits

0:35:230:35:28

and simplifies them and models them and put them together in new ways.

0:35:280:35:32

They are monstrous, but they are very impressive in the way

0:35:320:35:36

the shapes are related to one another.

0:35:360:35:38

Although filmed against the clock, it was a tour de force on Clark's

0:35:410:35:45

part, who had finally mastered the art of television presenting.

0:35:450:35:49

We had from 6 o'clock in the morning till 1 o'clock lunchtime.

0:35:490:35:53

And that was how the programme was done.

0:35:530:35:55

We couldn't rehearse it, or anything like that,

0:35:550:35:57

but K was marvellous, he really was.

0:35:570:35:59

Of course in a way, it's an abstract picture

0:35:590:36:03

and it is on the way to Cubism. And so are we.

0:36:030:36:07

By the time he's doing the Picasso at the Tate he's learnt the trade.

0:36:070:36:11

There's this perfect choreography

0:36:110:36:14

between his body, the words, and the art.

0:36:140:36:16

This is very important - he can do 30 minutes of live TV without any

0:36:160:36:23

break and that's extraordinary. And no hesitation and no repetitions.

0:36:230:36:27

A lot of that was because he loved working with Michael Reddington.

0:36:270:36:31

We got on very well indeed.

0:36:310:36:33

I was an actor when I was very young

0:36:330:36:36

and I used to draw on the acting experience to help him

0:36:360:36:42

and to encourage him really.

0:36:420:36:45

You feel he wants to tear everything apart,

0:36:450:36:49

twist it and jam it on upside down.

0:36:490:36:52

He talked marvellously and so clearly, that Peter Black,

0:36:520:36:55

who was the TV critic of the Daily Mail, phoned me up one day and said,

0:36:550:36:59

Michael, "I've never heard such language on television,

0:36:590:37:01

"it's absolutely wonderful."

0:37:010:37:03

He went to compare those programmes to Churchill's speeches in the war.

0:37:030:37:07

K laughed at that but nevertheless, it was a wonderful comment to make.

0:37:070:37:10

In 1966, Clark took one step closer to returning to the BBC

0:37:190:37:24

to make his greatest television enterprise that would finally

0:37:240:37:27

turn him into a household name.

0:37:270:37:30

But before that, he had an appointment with the Queen.

0:37:300:37:33

Broadcast on Christmas Day, The Royal Palaces Of Britain,

0:37:380:37:41

was one of the first co-productions between the BBC and ITV and

0:37:410:37:46

the first time the Royal family had let the cameras in, thanks to Clark.

0:37:460:37:50

Right the way through his life

0:37:500:37:52

he has had a close relationship with the British Royal family.

0:37:520:37:56

He was a surveyor of the King's pictures in the 1930s.

0:37:560:38:00

And he's got on very well with the whole family, right the way through.

0:38:000:38:04

He is able to secure access to these buildings

0:38:040:38:10

and these places, with the understanding he will show

0:38:100:38:15

a cut of this film to the Queen and Prince Philip before it is completed.

0:38:150:38:22

And here we are in the state dining room, one of a series of vast rooms

0:38:220:38:28

in which the official entertaining at Buckingham Palace takes place.

0:38:280:38:32

Let's walk through them.

0:38:320:38:34

Shot in sumptuous 35mm colour film,

0:38:360:38:39

the programme was hailed as a technical triumph.

0:38:390:38:43

But it cast a shadow over Clark's previously unblemished friendship

0:38:430:38:47

with the royal family.

0:38:470:38:48

I think he realised that to make a programme on royal palaces

0:38:480:38:51

the problem was not to perjure yourself and sit there saying

0:38:510:38:56

unctuous things about royalty for an hour and he was far too much his

0:38:560:39:01

own man and an accurate historian not to see that much of the history was

0:39:010:39:08

less than interesting or less than perfect. So he made the programme

0:39:080:39:13

and there was a rather impish quality about part of some of his remarks.

0:39:130:39:17

It's sad that lovers of art don't make more acceptable kings,

0:39:170:39:23

well kings of England anyway.

0:39:230:39:25

But after all, it was less as a connoisseur of painting,

0:39:250:39:28

than as a patron of the decorative arts,

0:39:280:39:30

that George IV left his stamp on the royal palaces.

0:39:300:39:35

He wasn't in the least put off the purchase of French furniture.

0:39:350:39:39

The very beginning of what one might call the Ritz Hotel style.

0:39:390:39:43

Clearly the royal family don't like it, it's not clear in detail

0:39:440:39:48

what they react to, but they feel Clark hasn't got the tone right,

0:39:480:39:53

perhaps he hasn't been sufficiently respectful.

0:39:530:39:56

It looks pretty respectful to us today, but he has a sly wit

0:39:560:40:02

about some of the earlier royals and clearly, it doesn't go down well.

0:40:020:40:08

Nonetheless, what this film does is introduce him

0:40:100:40:14

to a number of the key technical team and the technology of 35mm filming,

0:40:140:40:21

in colour which will be so crucial in the making of Civilisation.

0:40:210:40:27

The Royal Palaces Of Britain would be Clark's last venture with ATV.

0:40:270:40:31

And when his contract with Lew Grade expired a few days after the

0:40:310:40:35

programme was broadcast, the BBC was poised to reel their man back in.

0:40:350:40:39

FANFARE

0:40:390:40:41

In 1966, David Attenborough, then controller of BBC Two,

0:40:430:40:47

had been charged with introducing colour television to his new channel

0:40:470:40:51

and was looking for an ambitious series to launch it.

0:40:510:40:54

My idea was a history,

0:40:560:40:57

where you saw all the great things man had created,

0:40:570:41:01

whether that was pictures or architecture, or whatever,

0:41:010:41:03

and accompanying with the right contemporary music,

0:41:030:41:07

and put that for 13 hours.

0:41:070:41:09

The question is, who would do it?

0:41:090:41:11

When I asked myself that question it was a no-brainer,

0:41:110:41:14

K Clark was head and shoulders above anybody else.

0:41:140:41:17

Attenborough invited Clark for a lavish lunch at Television Centre

0:41:200:41:24

and pitched him his idea.

0:41:240:41:25

I sketched the idea as to what I had,

0:41:260:41:28

and he said, though I don't recall it myself,

0:41:280:41:31

he said, I used the word "Civilisation".

0:41:310:41:33

And then, according to his account, he went off into a reverie and

0:41:330:41:37

was already scribbling titles on the paper napkins as to how it could go.

0:41:370:41:42

But though Clark was clearly taken with Attenborough's proposal,

0:41:440:41:47

he had some stringent conditions he wanted the BBC to sign up to

0:41:470:41:52

before he signed any contract.

0:41:520:41:53

This is one of his notebooks.

0:41:550:41:57

He says, "Warn BBC. Not Marxist.

0:41:570:42:03

"Not a history of economics, nor of political ideas.

0:42:030:42:08

"Of ethics, only in a rather specialised sense.

0:42:080:42:13

"Religion will play a bigger part than economics."

0:42:130:42:16

Well, well. Pretty accurate. I mean...

0:42:180:42:21

Did he expect it to be Marxist, I wonder?

0:42:230:42:26

He's basically trying to warn them

0:42:280:42:30

because up to that point, the BBC arts

0:42:300:42:33

has been very much what he called very much

0:42:330:42:35

a New Statesman view and he's very worried that he can't provide this.

0:42:350:42:42

Things like Monitor, are very, very avant-garde and he's basically

0:42:420:42:46

trying to warn them he's not going to do something very avant-garde.

0:42:460:42:50

But for Clark, by then 64-years-old, the prospect of presenting

0:42:500:42:54

a 13 part series on everything he had immersed himself in

0:42:540:42:57

over the previous 50 years proved too tempting to pass up.

0:42:570:43:01

And on the 22 of May 1967,

0:43:010:43:04

Clark and his film crew embarked on their epic, whirlwind tour.

0:43:040:43:08

Over the course of two years, they travelled 80,000 miles,

0:43:110:43:15

visited 11 countries,

0:43:150:43:17

and filmed in 117 locations.

0:43:170:43:20

200,000 ft of colour 35mm film was shot -

0:43:200:43:25

enough to make six feature films.

0:43:250:43:28

With a budget of £130,000, the equivalent of £2 million today,

0:43:280:43:32

it was the most expensive series the BBC had ever made.

0:43:320:43:37

It jolly well nearly bust my bank as it were, as a network controller,

0:43:400:43:44

but what a fantastic opportunity,

0:43:440:43:46

and how culpable it would have been if I had not taken advantage of it.

0:43:460:43:50

Clark opened his series with a simple

0:43:570:44:00

but daringly provocative question.

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What is civilisation?

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I don't know. I can't define it in abstract terms. Yet.

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But I think I can recognise it when I see it,

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and I am looking at it now.

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It's, you know, a very famous sequence,

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but it's a beautifully judged sequence.

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He's opening himself up, suggesting a certain

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kind of lack of knowledge, suggesting that in a way that he is on the side

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of the viewer. This is not a man who is going to lecture us for 13 weeks.

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This is a man who is going to explore ideas with us.

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The historian can't help observing how the need for confession

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has returned, even, or especially, in the land of the Pilgrim Fathers.

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But the modern confessor must grope his way in the labyrinth of the

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psyche with all its false turnings and dissolving perspectives.

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A noble aim but a terrifying responsibility.

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No wonder that psychoanalysts have the highest suicide rate

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of any vocation.

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You could give those scripts or indeed those postures or those

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directions to somebody else and it would be terrible.

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It was the fact that K meant every word that he said.

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Every word he had thought about very carefully.

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And that had a kind of...

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What is the word I want, pungency. It had, it bit. It had bite to it.

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You knew this man was not putting on an act.

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The colossal palaces of the Pope's relatives were simply

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expressions of private greed and vanity.

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The sense of grandeur is no doubt a human instinct,

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but carried too far it becomes inhuman.

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I wonder if a single thought that has helped forward the human spirit

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has ever been conceived or written down in an enormous room.

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That capacity to come up with a sentence like that.

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It's like spoken speech is drama.

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I wonder if ever a thought was had in a large room,

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it challenges you, it's provocative.

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CHORAL SINGING

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And then, by the time you are still

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working out your reaction to it,

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he is onto another one.

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Civilisation is a fantastic procession of these wonderful

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sentences wonderfully expressed in amazing places.

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The programmes were genuinely a passport

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to curiosity about the arts.

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I had never been abroad.

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My parents had never been abroad,

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so we had no understanding of the foreign.

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I had never heard of the Baroque.

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But suddenly art and culture was pulled.

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It was bigger, it was more interesting.

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It was grand, it was important, and it was mine.

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The evident pleasure Clark took in talking about the buildings

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and art works he knew and loved best, albeit with a wry affection,

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was matched by the happier times he was able to enjoy

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with his wife Jane, who would occasionally join him on location.

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I think it was an Indian summer, it was magical for both of them.

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It was almost like a second honeymoon in a way.

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Somehow when they were away on tour as it were,

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I think some of her demons were left behind.

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I dare say there were scenes and things, there never weren't,

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but she certainly enjoyed it and made him happier.

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But for Clark, filming was also a bittersweet experience,

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because everywhere he looked there was a reminder

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that the civilisation he cherished was under threat.

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Looking at those great works of Western man,

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and remembering all that he has achieved in philosophy,

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poetry, science, lawmaking, it does seem hard to believe

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that European civilisation can ever vanish.

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And yet, you know, it has happened once,

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when the Barbarians ran over the Roman Empire.

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For two centuries,

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the heart of European civilisation almost stopped beating.

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We got through by the skin of our teeth.

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In the last few years,

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we developed an uneasy feeling that this could happen again.

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And advanced thinkers have begun to question

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if civilisation is worth preserving.

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While filming in Paris, Clark

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and his crew were caught up in the violent student riots of May '68.

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And it was clear Clark felt these young radical left-wing protestors

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were the new Barbarians.

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You have to remember the world was in a lot of disarray at that time.

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It was the time of Vietnam, you had race riots in America,

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you had les evenements in Paris. The world wasn't exactly disintegrating,

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but it was a place of definite disarray and turmoil.

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Turmoil is the word, so K was anxious and worried,

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and he thought this almost love of barbarism was a phase.

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He thought people ought to understand what civilisation is

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before they throw it out with the bath water.

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Where once he'd prided himself on being a man of the people, Clark now

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seemed hopelessly out of touch and out of step with the changing times.

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At this point I reveal myself in my true colours as a stick in the mud.

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I hold a number of beliefs that have been

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repudiated by the liveliest intellects of our time.

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I believe that order is better than chaos.

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Creation better than destruction.

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Above all, I believe in the God-given genius

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of certain individuals.

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And I value a society that makes their existence possible.

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In the last sequence of Civilisation,

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Clark very astutely summarises everything.

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He gives his last credo, which ends on this somewhat pessimistic note.

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I said at the beginning of the series that it's a lack

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of confidence, more than anything else, that kills a civilisation.

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We can destroy ourselves by cynicism and disillusion,

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just as effectively as by bombs.

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But the trouble is, there is still no centre.

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The moral and intellectual failure of Marxism has left us

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with no alternative to heroic materialism. And that isn't enough.

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One may be optimistic,

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but one can't exactly be joyful at the prospect before us.

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And then you see him walking through his grand library

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and this sort of embodiment of a tradition of knowledge

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and erudition, I suppose.

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And then the last thing that he does is put his hand

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on this beautiful wooden Henry Moore that he owns,

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and he more than puts his hand on it, he sort of caresses it,

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and there is a flick of a smile on his face which seems to

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reflect a sense of reassurance, that however pessimistic

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we might feel about the future, there is still in this carving

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by Henry Moore, the embodiment of culture and civilisation.

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When the first episode of Civilisation was transmitted

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in 1969, it was an immediate critical success

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and quickly became required family viewing.

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Word went around, you know. There were very good things in the press

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said about it and there were people

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holding parties, buying television sets, and saying,

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"Come and watch Civilisation this week."

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He got thousands of letters after it

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and they were absolutely incredibly touching, I must say.

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Incredibly moving, from every sort of person all over the world.

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They were wonderful.

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Civilisation had clearly resonated with its audience,

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and nowhere more so than in America.

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America was going through a terrible trauma at the time.

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It was the time of Vietnam and it was the first time America

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had had to confront failure and not

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just battle ground failure but moral failure.

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And people who watched the programmes

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had found they meant a huge amount to them

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and given them, I suppose, hope.

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When special screenings of the series were held

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at the National Gallery in Washington,

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Clark was invited to receive an honorary medal.

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He was mobbed like a pop star,

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like the Beatles or something. It took everybody by surprise.

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These vast queues of tens of thousands of people.

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Nobody had anticipated this.

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As he walked, people were reaching out to touch him.

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He said "I felt as if I was a bogus doctor in the time of plague,

0:53:310:53:38

"that somehow I had a magic touch, which of course I didn't.

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"I was so devastated by this when I got to the end, instead of

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"going to lunch, I went and locked myself in the lavatory and wept."

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It really shook him,

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because he realised he didn't have the answers they were looking for,

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but I think in a way he did because a kind of universality of art,

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which he felt very, very strongly,

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IS a kind of way through for trouble.

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But though Clark was feted by many as a visionary,

0:54:140:54:16

he was not everyone's taste.

0:54:160:54:19

By the early '70s, people were beginning to question

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the establishment's views on everything, including art.

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This is the time when the Marxist dialectic and when determinism

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and a sociological view of art history is very, very fashionable.

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And K was very aware of that.

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He said it several times, "They are going to hate it, they hate me

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"and they hate the idea of me."

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A lot of what he presents in Civilisation

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and what he stands for, are established values,

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and so they would naturally be subject of critique from the left.

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And I think he probably knew that was coming.

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In 1972, John Berger's BBC series Ways Of Seeing loomed into view,

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challenging all the values held by Clark in Civilisation.

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This is the first four programmes in which I want to question some

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of the assumptions usually made about the tradition of European painting.

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Ways Of Seeing question the assumptions in which you

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looked at your own civilisation,

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and didn't take into consideration all sorts of value systems,

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and circumstantial historical things, economic things,

0:55:320:55:36

sexually political things.

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It said, hang on, let's question our tradition

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and look at it against other arguments and see where it takes us.

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A woman in the culture of privileged Europeans is first and foremost

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a sight to be looked at.

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What kind of sight is revealed in the average European oil painting.

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John Berger's wonderful Ways Of Seeing, which is

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very different in manner and a very different in proposition,

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and is extraordinarily radical about feminism, very early on,

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it picks up all sorts of issues, was actually a response to Civilisation.

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You can see it as a criticism, and there was huge criticism,

0:56:190:56:23

because I suppose by the time of Civilisation, Clark is

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at the end of his great intellectual arc and something new is coming up.

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And that is how intellectual life grows.

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It's television as so important,

0:56:370:56:42

that it produces the next stage of the argument.

0:56:420:56:46

Those two series become absolutely emblematic

0:56:490:56:53

of two ways of looking at the world, and Ways Of Seeing gets taken up

0:56:530:56:59

and embraced by people involved in culture in the broadest sense.

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But I think it is only after quite a long period of time, that we can

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begin to recognise that Civilisation has enormous value in and of itself.

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It's profoundly intelligent.

0:57:160:57:19

It's profoundly humanist in the way in which it talks about

0:57:190:57:24

and presents the arts.

0:57:240:57:26

K had this ability to communicate beautifully about what

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he loved and I think that is what's important and what is

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left are these beautiful insights into the artists that he worshipped.

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Whether it's on the printed page, or whether it's on television,

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it's that communication which is his legacy, really.

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What I really respect him for is that for better or worse, he pursued

0:57:590:58:05

his absolute passion, which was the belief in the importance of art and

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the right of everybody to have access to art and have that in their lives.

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And I hope this exhibition will remind people

0:58:150:58:18

about Kenneth Clarke, the extent of all the things he did and in

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so many ways, I suppose, he's shaped our culture, our attitude to art.

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