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DH Lawrence is one of the outstanding | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
and most prolific English writers of the 20th century - | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
author of novels like Sons And Lovers, The Rainbow, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
and most famously Lady Chatterley's Lover, as well as a large | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
collection of short stories, poetry, plays and essays. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
But Lawrence is a writer with a bad reputation, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
first and foremost because he dared to write about sex. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:31 | |
When he died in 1930, Lawrence was viewed by many as little more | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
than a pornographer. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
On top of this, he has often been slurred as a woman hater, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
as a racist, condemned as unpatriotic, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
and scoffed at for lacking a sense of humour and for committing | 0:00:46 | 0:00:50 | |
every crime against the conventions of good writing. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
Lawrence didn't help himself. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
His ferocious temper along with an unflinching appetite for speaking | 0:00:58 | 0:01:02 | |
his mind combined to make him plenty of enemies especially in England, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:07 | |
which he cursed for its snobbery | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
and repression and which he declared, "Nauseates my spirit and my body." | 0:01:09 | 0:01:14 | |
Lawrence's bad reputation, the snobbery, accusations and prejudice | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
drove him into exile | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
and out on a journey in pursuit of intellectual and personal freedom... | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
..a journey that reveals Lawrence to be so much bigger, more engaging, | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
and more interesting than the stereotypes would have you believe. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
There isn't an essence of Lawrence and that's his essence. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
There is so much of it. There are so many Lawrences. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
He wrote in every genre. Who else did that? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
The whole bent of Lawrence is towards freedom. That is | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
what his writing is. It is free. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
It's like watching somebody doing open-heart surgery on themselves. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
You don't know where to look on occasions. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
He is willing to struggle with confusion in broad daylight. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
We always need mentors to do that for us. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Lawrence wrote his way around the globe, | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
from the Mediterranean to Ceylon, and on to Australia, | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
ending up in the mountains of New Mexico, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
where, for a brief period, he found a kind of home. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
But his travels started with a journey across the Alps, an expedition | 0:02:28 | 0:02:33 | |
that enabled him to complete his first great novel, Sons And Lovers. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
It's 100 years since Lawrence's working-class coming-of-age | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
novel was published, blasting a hole | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
in traditional fiction with its intensity and freshness. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
This is a film about the journey that brought that book to | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
fruition, a soul-changing | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
and spectacular mountain hike that reveals how the stereotypes | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
of this writer bear only a passing resemblance to the real DH Lawrence. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
It was a journey that began on the well-to-do | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
leafy streets of the Nottingham suburb | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
of Mapperley as the 26-year-old David Herbert Lawrence made his way | 0:03:24 | 0:03:29 | |
to a luncheon one Sunday in March 1912. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
It was an appointment that would unexpectedly and dramatically | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
transform his life. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:40 | |
Lawrence, who was then a schoolteacher, | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
was visiting his old university lecturer, Professor Ernest Weekley, | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
but when he arrived at the house, it wasn't | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
the professor who greeted him at the door, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
but the professor's German wife Frieda. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
'She is not an intellectual but she knows her way around.' | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
They talk about Oedipus before lunch. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
You don't often do this with Nottingham housewives. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
You really don't. And she's fascinated. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
He's a writer as well. That's interesting. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
"Tell me more about your writing." | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
'They develop a rapport immediately. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
'Lawrence finds her absolutely staggering. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
'He has fallen for her like a ton of bricks.' | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
Ernest Weekley was perhaps half an hour late for lunch - | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
a minor error in timekeeping that brought about the end of his | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
marriage and the beginning of one of the great literary love affairs. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
Only two months after their encounter in Nottingham, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
Lawrence and Frieda travelled to Germany together | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
and on 25th May 1912 they arrived here in the small Bavarian village of Beuerberg. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:59 | |
-You don't like Women In Love? -I was reading it a bit last night. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
Writer Geoff Dyer, author of a book about his own passion | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
and pursuit of Lawrence, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
and academic Catherine Brown, who specialises in Lawrence's | 0:05:09 | 0:05:13 | |
writing, have come here at the start of a hiking | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
expedition following the journey over the Alps that Lawrence | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
made with Frieda in the summer of 1912. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
It's beautiful. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
Although Lawrence had only known Frieda for a few weeks, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
he was already convinced that she was the woman of a lifetime. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
He called the week they spent here in Beuerberg a honeymoon. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
-You can imagine it - quite a place for a honeymoon. -Yes. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
This is where it began to look more like a honeymoon. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
This was the first place they had together. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
They had it for about a week. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
This was their first place where they could properly spend a whole | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
week together. It was a revelation to them. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
I think that that's why Frieda, in her memoirs of Lawrence, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
actually starts the narrative at this point in Beuerberg. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
Yes, but as always with Lawrence it's a working honeymoon, isn't it? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:03 | |
Yes, that's right. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:04 | |
If you look at the collected Lawrence, you've got about two | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
shelves' worth, and he died before his 45th birthday. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
You're thinking, "How did he write that much in that time?" | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
The answer was that even when, for example, having a honeymoon, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
or quasi-eloping, he was writing, | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
and Frieda notes this, that he | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
would just put himself in a corner and the words poured out. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
Sure. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
Lawrence never dreaded writing. He could always do it. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
-So he's writing, keeping up with his correspondence. -That's right. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
If they have any kind of experience, he'll immediately sell | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-it into a sketch, a bit of journalism, that he hopes he can sell. -A poem. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
There'd be a poem. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Then hanging over him is the big major project of revising | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
the manuscript of Paul Morel which he'd brought with him, the manuscript | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
which with subsequent revisions becomes Sons And Lovers. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
-You do have a brisk stride, don't you? -No. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I was matching you. I thought you were just setting a different pace this time. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Sons And Lovers, the novel | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
in Lawrence's suitcase in Beuerberg tells the story | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
of the family, childhood and coming of age of a young painter, Paul Morel. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
It's a book that closely mirrors Lawrence's own life | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
and the story of how he became a writer. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
DH Lawrence was born into a coal-mining | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
family in the Nottinghamshire town of Eastwood in 1885. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
Right from early childhood, Lawrence seems to have been marked | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
out from the crowd. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:33 | |
There's a photograph of Lawrence in his class at the Boys' School, Albert Street. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:40 | |
Even in that picture he's a bit different from the others. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
He is the only boy of 72 | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
with a white handkerchief | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
in his vest pocket. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
He is clearly well brushed and combed, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
all the other kids are. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
He's a special child, specially looked after. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Looks a bit smaller than the others. People liked him a lot. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
The young Lawrence, just like his alter ego Paul Morel | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
in Sons And Lovers, was shaped by his intense relationships with two women. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
His mother, people often say, "Oh, a schoolteacher." | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
She wasn't a schoolteacher and she married Arthur Lawrence | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
because she thought he had a rather important | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
job in the coal mine - mining contractor. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
That just means being a miner. She thought it meant more. | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
But from the start of the marriage she was trying to get her boys to | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
be different and not be either like her, or her father, or like their father. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:35 | |
She wanted them to be out in the world doing professional jobs | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
and to hell with Eastwood mining, the grubbiness, the mining community. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
The other powerful influence was Lawrence's teenage girlfriend, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
Jessie Chambers. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
Jessie was the bookish younger daughter of a farming family. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
Her home, Haggs Farm, which sat a couple of miles | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
away in the country below Eastwood was the place where Lawrence | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
developed his passion and knowledge of the natural world. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:07 | |
Jessie saw in Lawrence what she described as, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
"That radiant joy in being alive." | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
She wanted him to be a writer, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
I'm not sure he did so much in the early days. Here was the idea of, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
"A great man, you can be a writer." | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
Lawrence had this wonderful remark, "A collier's son a poet?" | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
He really had a lot of irony about that, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
but Jessie believed in him. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
Jessie would have helped him see himself as a tragic hero. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
After finishing his studies in Nottingham in 1908 at the age | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
of 22, Lawrence moved to the South London suburb of Croydon | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
where he took up a job as an elementary school | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
teacher at the Davidson Road School. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
His literary career began in 1910 when a London magazine called | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
The English Review printed one of his short stories, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
Odour Of Chrysanthemums. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
Publication came about largely due to the great enthusiasm | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
of the magazine's editor, Ford Madox Hueffer, | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
who was struck by Lawrence's instinctive gift for storytelling | 0:10:14 | 0:10:19 | |
and also his compelling insight into what, for his middle-class | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
readership, was the unknown world of working-class life. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
The publication of the story introduced | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Lawrence into the fashionable circles of London literary | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
society where this son of a collier, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
and his account of the intimate lives of ordinary working people, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
was treated with a mixture of curiosity and condescension | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
by a cultural elite who smirked at his clothes, looks and manner. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
However, Hueffer was a sincere enthusiast for Lawrence's | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
writing and helped him to get his first full-length novel, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
The White Peacock, into print, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
repeatedly declaring, "You've got genius!" | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
Towards the end of 1910, encouraged by the first hints of literary | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
success, Lawrence began work on a new book. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
It would be a novel set in the mining world that | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
so appealed to his editor and publishers - | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
a novel about his own family and his own life, Sons And Lovers. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
However the book did not come easily. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
Not only was this painful, emotional territory, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
but Lawrence was deeply frustrated by the demands that school life | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
placed on his time and energy. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
It is hard to find the time to be the writer | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
and to do all these things which the publishing world wants of him | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
to do and to go on marking his essays at school and the heaps of 72 | 0:11:49 | 0:11:54 | |
copybooks to do by the end of the evening and all that. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
So, "What are you going to do with your life?" is the real problem | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
and he still doesn't know. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:02 | |
But the whole problem is resolved, oddly, by Lawrence getting | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
fearfully ill in November, 1911. He gets double pneumonia, nearly dies | 0:12:07 | 0:12:15 | |
and struggles back into life during December, January, February | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
and doesn't want to go back to school teaching, and really feels that | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
that strain of the life at school - he can't go back to that. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
If there's ever a moment come for a break, it's come. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
It was at this point that Lawrence went for lunch in Nottingham | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
and met the extraordinary Frieda Weekley... | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
..the woman who became both the central character in his life | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
and, by extension, in his writing. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Only two months later, they travelled to Germany together | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
although to begin with, for Frieda, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
this was no more than a summer holiday. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Frieda has every intention of going back, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:03 | |
of course she does, she's got three children. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
If an affair happens with Lawrence, how very nice | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
and the two of them go back home again | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
after a sort of regenerative summer. That is not what Lawrence intends. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:14 | |
Lawrence thinks this is the woman of a lifetime. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
That's his phrase for her, "She is the woman of a lifetime." | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
And he tells her she's got to marry him, not go back. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Will Frieda do that? She'd be crazy to do that. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
But by the time they reached the little village of Beuerberg, | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Frieda realised that Lawrence had become what she called "a deep necessity". | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
The feeling was certainly mutual. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
After their week of honeymooning, Lawrence | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
and Frieda continued the summer in Bavaria with Lawrence working | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
hard on the third draft of Sons And Lovers. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
He submitted the manuscript to his publisher, Heinemann, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
but was horrified to receive a rejection letter. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
Although Lawrence quickly found a new publisher, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
thanks to his friend, the editor, Edward Garnett, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
he was keenly aware that after two and a half years | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
labouring on the book, he desperately needed to complete it, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
not least out of financial necessity. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Six months after meeting Lawrence, in August, 1912, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
Frieda agreed that instead of going back home to her husband | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
and children in England, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
she would accompany him to Italy where they hoped to find a place | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
where they could live cheaply while he settled down to his writing. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
The spectacular journey Lawrence and Frieda undertook over the Alps | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
and the following months they spent in northern Italy were life-changing | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
for Lawrence, providing him with an extraordinary creative stimulus. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
Not only was he working on another draft of Sons And Lovers, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
but he would also produce a wealth of new writing, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
including ground-breaking poetry, the first of his incomparable | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
travel sketches, a sequence of essays, two plays, as well as | 0:15:07 | 0:15:14 | |
the beginning of both a comic novel and his masterpiece, The Rainbow. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
It would be a journey on which Lawrence | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
came into his own as an artist. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Lawrence and Frieda decided to begin the journey to Italy on foot | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
and from Lawrence's various accounts, it is abundantly | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
clear they were hopelessly ill-prepared for the trip. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
Where are we going now, Catherine? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
-You getting stung? -No, just bitten a bit. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Where are we meant to be heading, up here? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
I'm not sure, and nor did they know. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
-Do you think they had maps with them? -Surely they'd have had a map. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
At some point on the route, they took the wrong turning | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
and by the time that the light began to fade, they were clearly lost. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
-Oh, here we are. -Look at that. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
And then they stumbled across a small mountain chapel. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
It is very well kept up. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
It is certainly like the kind of place they... | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-It is clearly a functioning Catholic chapel stop. Shall we go in? -Yeah. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
"There was a click of the latch in the cold, watchful | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
"silence of the upper mountains, and we entered. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
"By the grey darkness coming in from outside, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
"we made out the tiny chapel, candles on the altar | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
"and a whole covering of ex-voto pictures on the wall." | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
Throughout this Alpine journey, Lawrence wrote essays and sketches, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
some of which reveal an often overlooked aspect of his writing - | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
his deep fascination and preoccupation with religion | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
and spirituality. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
I mean, this is exactly the kind of thing he was talking about. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
You've got a man | 0:16:58 | 0:16:59 | |
crushed by a log. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
It's a ridiculous picture and it's a kind of doggerel poem to Maria, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
but thanking her for the fact that he didn't die when this log | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
landed on his belly, as it looks. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
It seems to me this is so much about what's best about Lawrence. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
You get this description of the pictures and then you get | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
that immediate transition into some kind of metaphysic. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
You know, deepest of all things, among the mountain darkness | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
was the ever-felt fear. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
First of all gods was the unknown God who crushed life at any | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
moment and threatened it always. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
It's classic Lawrence, isn't it? You know, he's only been here a little | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
while and he's already got a sense of what | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
he thinks is the deepest experience of being up here in the mountains. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Lawrence was completely enchanted by the little chapel | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
and thought it would make an ideal place to stop for the night. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Frieda had other ideas. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
For this daughter of a Prussian aristocrat, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
tramping panellists over the Alps like a vagabond was a great | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
romantic fantasy and to complete the picture, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
she insisted on sleeping in a haystack. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
This is really nice, or would be if it was about 20 degrees warmer | 0:18:20 | 0:18:26 | |
and four hours earlier, but I guess this is not unlike | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
the circumstances in which Lawrence and Frieda found themselves - | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
getting dark, freezing cold, hungry. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
I wonder if it has got any hay inside? Oh, wow! | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
-OK. Well, there is no hay. There's logs. -Just a load of logs. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
Yeah, you couldn't sleep on that if you tried. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
"'It's lovely, lovely,' said Johanna. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
"But alas, gentle reader, worse than fleas, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:03 | |
"worse even than mosquitoes on a sultry night is hay. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
"It trickles insidiously in. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
"It trickles and tickles your face. It goes in your ears | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
"and down your neck and is around your waist. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:17 | |
"The tickling becomes an intolerable irritation, then an inflammation." | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
-I think the chapel would be better, do you think? -Probably. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
-I said we should have gone there. -That's right, you did. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
No, Lawrence was right. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:32 | |
After a damp, itchy night in the hay barn, Lawrence describes wryly in | 0:19:47 | 0:19:52 | |
Mr Noon how the following morning, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
freezing cold with sodden boots, like two ghosts, he and Frieda | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
stumbled back down the valley to find the road. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
Somewhat grumpy, both dressed in Burberry raincoats, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
they made the next stage of their journey through the wide | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Austrian valleys on a combination of omnibus and train, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
as they headed for what was then the small farming town of Mayrhofen. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
One of the things that strikes me increasingly about Lawrence - | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
I mean, a great genius, blah, blah, blah, all that stuff, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
but Lawrence often seems to me a sort of...a quite ridiculous figure. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
But that was something that he was very well aware of | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
and he writes it into the essays of Twilight In Italy. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
He was keenly aware of the ridiculousness of their situation | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
and certainly in person, he was fun to be with. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
Everybody says this about him. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Jessie Chambers, his first girlfriend, says it, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Frieda says it. He was very good at impersonating people | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
and he could parody himself as well. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Yeah. I find he is not very successful in the novels. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
I mean, I don't find him a very humorous writer there. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
We may have different senses of humour. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
I find him frequently hilarious in his novels. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
I mean, Mr Noon, I laughed pretty much from beginning to end | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and then in his poetry as well, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
"There was a little wowser, John Thomas his name, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
"and for every bloomin', mortal thing, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
"that little blighter's to blame." | 0:21:12 | 0:21:15 | |
It goes on and it's about the male member | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
and how it's responsible for all the troubles in the world and that's | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
a pure comic poem, and then sometimes you get his mimicry, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
his capacity as a mimic in the poem, so there's one called | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
The Oxford Voice that ends, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
"We are, we are, you know we are superior." | 0:21:30 | 0:21:36 | |
Mayrhofen was the end of the road. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
From here it was just the mule tracks into the high Alps. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
Lawrence and Frieda ended up staying here for a couple of weeks. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
Lawrence worked on his poems, essays and the manuscript of | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
Sons And Lovers and in the evenings, | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
they enjoyed drinking and dancing with the local peasant farmers. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
They also went on hikes into the mountains and Lawrence, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
who was a keen botanist, made plant-hunting expeditions, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:13 | |
including one particular trip into the deep, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
gloomy, clam gorge that runs south of the town. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
-Oh, my. -Gosh, it is horrifying. -Yeah. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:26 | |
It's a very, very tortured man. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
Lawrence, brought up in the plain Puritan | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
environment of the Methodist Chapel, was alarmed | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
and fascinated by the gruesome crucifixes that | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
appear on every peak and bend of the mountain roads and pathways. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
He wrote one of his most evocative essays describing the way | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
the carvings of Christ change as one head south through | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
the Tyrolean landscape. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
Part travelogue and part philosophical reflection, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
this was the first of the many idiosyncratic travel pieces | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
which Lawrence wrote throughout his life | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
and which found a ready audience in newspapers and magazines. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
Lawrence and Frieda were joined in Mayrhofen by two English friends, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
David Garnett, the son of his new editor, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
and a man called Harold Hobson. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:20 | |
You can tell why Lawrence loved it here. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
And on Wednesday, 28th August, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
the small party began the five mile climb to the summit of | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
a mountain that today straddles the border between Austria | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
and Italy and which would, in every sense, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
prove the high point of Lawrence's Alpine expedition. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:45 | |
God, this is stunning! Transcendently beautiful. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:51 | |
Lawrence was seeing it...something of this kind for the first time. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
Oh, yeah. Well, that is something. Jeez! | 0:23:56 | 0:24:02 | |
"And then it was the top. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
"Smooth as plates of iron, | 0:24:11 | 0:24:13 | |
"a flat summit with great films of snow like silver | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
"plating on the black, bronze iron, and a wind, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
"a painful, cold wind and low in the near distance, a brown shelter hut. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:27 | |
"And beyond the brow, a great peak, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
"a magnificent wedge of iron thrust into the upper air | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
"and slashed with snow slashes, as if it were dazzlingly alive. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
"So brilliant and living | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
"the snow stripes on its aloof, dark body. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
"For Gilbert, it was one of the perfect things of all his life, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
"that peak, that single, great sky living blade of rock." | 0:24:50 | 0:24:55 | |
He clearly had an ecstatic moment on this spot looking at Italy | 0:24:56 | 0:25:01 | |
and he writes about it several times. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
He gives this moment of joy to several of his characters | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
and I would say that amongst prose writers, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:09 | |
nobody describes mountains as well as Lawrence does. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
I mean, he's got these great, great terms for them like | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
"white fanged" or | 0:25:16 | 0:25:17 | |
"striped snow panthers circling around a great camp." | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
Thank you, Lawrence, for having come here so that we can come here too. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
There's something beautifully moving about it, | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
the working-class boy from Nottingham, which has been | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
blighted by industrialism, and he comes here to this pure | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
and wonderful place, and it's great. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
There's a real sense of arrival, but also I think it's so moving | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
because, you know, this is the start of Lawrence's great | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
life of global adventure, of the savage pilgrimages he calls it. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:54 | |
It's just wonderful. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
-So, Geoff, where now? -I think... -Italy? | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
For Lawrence, his transcendent moment on top of this mountain | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
was a point from which there was no going back. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
The adrenaline of travel, of looking at the world, inspired | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
a growing sense of ambition and freedom in his writing. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
The poetry collection that he was working on at the time, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Look! We Have Come Through! - | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
a collection whose title seems to capture that moment | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
of emergence through the Alps, was a radical | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
and shocking break with the poetic conventions of Edwardian England | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
and it provoked a reaction of prurience | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
and snobbery in the literary circles of London. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
I think a lot of his friends were appalled | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
and a lot of reviewers were appalled. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
It's the directness of utterance that's so shocking | 0:26:55 | 0:26:59 | |
and especially coming out of a period | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
of Georgian poetry when everything | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
had been rhyming and manufactured and manicured and presented as | 0:27:04 | 0:27:11 | |
almost sort of baroque units of thought, this wasn't that at all - | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
it's a great, big, direct splurge onto the page. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
Lawrence is all about feeling and sensation | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
and I think he thought that man had become cut off from that | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
and it was his job, both as a poet and as David Herbert Lawrence, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
to reopen negotiations with the world and finding that form of poetry, | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
what became, I suppose, free verse, was his way of doing that. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
"Not I, not I, but the wind that blows through me! | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
"A fine wind is blowing the new direction of Time. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
"If only I let it bear me, carry me, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
"if only it carry me! | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
"If only I am sensitive, subtle, oh, delicate a winged gift!" | 0:27:53 | 0:27:58 | |
I remember reading Lawrence when I was in my early 20s | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
and even then I thought, "I don't know what to do with this stuff." | 0:28:03 | 0:28:07 | |
It just wasn't like anything else that I was reading. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
It's hippy poetry. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
It is really wild. It's like watching somebody... | 0:28:11 | 0:28:16 | |
doing open-heart surgery on themselves. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
You don't know where to look on occasions, and it is exciting | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
and it is arousing as well. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
Of course, Lawrence's appetite for defying convention was not | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
restricted to his poetry. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
In the years after he completed Sons And Lovers, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
he went on to write two revolutionary novels, The Rainbow | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
and Women In Love, substantial works of fiction that are both | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
technically ground-breaking and which deal with political | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
and sexual content that provoked one reviewer at the time | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
to comment that The Rainbow "is a greater menace to our public | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
"health than any of the epidemic diseases". | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
The book was banned after only a few weeks in print. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
Women In Love took five years to find a publisher. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
It wasn't until the 1960s that Lawrence finally found | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
popular acclaim after he was championed by the influential | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
critic FR Leavis, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
made famous by a failed legal attempt to ban | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
Lady Chatterley's Lover and celebrated in one | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
of the iconic films of the decade, Ken Russell's Women In Love. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
For a time, Lawrence was the pin-up of the hippy generation | 0:29:30 | 0:29:35 | |
but in 1970, the pendulum swung back in the other direction | 0:29:35 | 0:29:40 | |
when an American feminist made a furious | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
and incisive attack on Lawrence, labelling him a misogynist. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
Lawrence undoubtedly had a case to answer. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
He made plenty of unpalatable statements about women | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
but his venomous outbursts are contradicted in his best | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
writing, particularly in Women In Love | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
and The Rainbow, where he answers his critics head on by creating | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
some of the most vital, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
liberated and fully realised female characters in literature, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
powerfully brought to the screen by Glenda Jackson | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
and Jennie Linden in Ken Russell's film. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
You don't think one needs the experience of having been married? | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
Oh, Gudrun, do you really think it need be an experience? | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
It is bound to be. Possibly undesirable, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:26 | |
but it is bound to be an experience of some sort. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
BABY CRYING | 0:30:29 | 0:30:30 | |
Not really. More likely to be the end of experience. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:33 | |
He was a great forward-thinking, prophetic person | 0:30:34 | 0:30:39 | |
and, you know, one way of looking at where | 0:30:39 | 0:30:42 | |
he leaves his women at the end of the whole cycle of The Rainbow | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
and Women In Love is, you know, very much | 0:30:46 | 0:30:49 | |
the position of the modern woman, who could be completely | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
autonomous in having a child, for instance. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:57 | |
She doesn't need a man to do that necessarily, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
she can live on her own. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
Everything that people think that is suspect about Lawrence, | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
it's merely the degree of freedom | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
and licence that he permits the female mind in the way that a woman | 0:31:08 | 0:31:13 | |
might think about her body and about the sexual relationship with a man. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
He doesn't leave things at particular | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
thresholds like other writers do. He goes all the way, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
he follows people into the most intimate moments of their lives. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:32 | |
I mean, there's a lovely scene in The Rainbow where Anna, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
heavily pregnant Anna, fed up with her husband and wanting to annoy | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
him and rebel against him | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
takes off all her clothes and dances. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
She knows he's going to come in | 0:31:45 | 0:31:47 | |
and he does, and he's horrified, horrified. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
He's disgusted by this spectacle of a pregnant woman with no shame. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
And Lawrence is right behind her, he's absolutely | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
approving of her decision to annoy people by loving herself. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:05 | |
Lawrence was both enraged and deeply hurt by the censorship | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
and rejection of his work, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
not least because in many ways the model for those modern, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
liberated heroines of The Rainbow and Women In Love was his own | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
spirited, unconventional and proudly independent wife Frieda... | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
..an independence of which he was made powerfully | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
aware up in the Alps, back in 1912. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
After their great climb, Lawrence | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
and Frieda descended to the town below where their English | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
walking companions took a train back home. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:48 | |
After a couple of days' rest, Lawrence | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
and Frieda were keen to get to Italy and they headed on south | 0:32:52 | 0:32:56 | |
with another steep hike up a mountain called a Jaufen. | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
-Slippy here. -I think I am keeping up with you rather well, Geoff. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
-You are but, of course, I am slowing down to make it easy for you. -I see. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
-You look to me like... -I can give you an assisting hand if you like. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
..you're about to faint. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
Late in the evening, as once again they found themselves cold, | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
in fading light and uncertain of their location, | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
Frieda chose her moment to reveal to Lawrence that a couple of days | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
earlier, while he was off hunting for wild flower specimens, she had | 0:33:25 | 0:33:30 | |
had sex with their walking companion Harold Hobson in a hay barn. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
I mean, it's really an extraordinary moment to choose. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
They are in some distress, they have had a very bad day, | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
they are actually in quite considerable physical danger | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
and this is the moment Frieda chooses to say this. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
But, yeah, it was quite a shock and he describes it. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
-He writes about it later on in about 1920... -In Mr Noon. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:56 | |
Yeah, and writes about it in that incredible way, locating | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
exactly what happens by saying, "Everything vague. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
"He turned vaguely away," so he just enters this kind of weird, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:09 | |
stunned state, which Lawrence fixes with great precision by using | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
that word "vaguely". | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
"He turned vaguely and went clambering up the path | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
"while she followed in silence behind | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
"and so they climbed for some time." | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
One of the things he liked about Frieda is that he couldn't | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
walk all over her. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
This was a sort of early manifestation of this thing | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
that he put such store by, that they should both be independent. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
You know, it made clear that she was no pushover, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
which is what he wanted. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:45 | |
"Suddenly he turned to her. She was close behind him. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
"He dropped her knapsack and threw his arms around her. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
"'Never mind, my love,' he said. 'Never mind, never mind. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
"'We do things we don't know we're doing.' | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
"And he kissed her and clung to her passionately | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
"in a sudden passion of self-annihilation." | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
Lawrence was so convinced of the importance of Frieda | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
that he was willing to self-annihilate - | 0:35:18 | 0:35:21 | |
he needed her, whatever she did. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
He felt their relationship was essential to his existence | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
and central to his writing. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
The journey to Italy turned out to be the beginning of a life together, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
a life of continual movement. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
After the First World War, | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
they began a peripatetic existence in Italy, Sicily and Sardinia. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:44 | |
Before embarking on a voyage that Lawrence referred to | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
as a savage pilgrimage, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
first to what was then Ceylon, modern day Sri Lanka, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
then Australia, where they stayed for nearly four months | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
and where he wrote a novel called Kangaroo. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
After sailing the Pacific to San Francisco, they finally drew | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
to a halt in the high desert and mountains of New Mexico, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:10 | |
where they stayed on and off for three years | 0:36:10 | 0:36:12 | |
and from where they made forays into Mexico. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:16 | |
Some of Lawrence's later writing from the period | 0:36:16 | 0:36:19 | |
when he was travelling the globe has landed him | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
with the grim label of being both a racist and a fascist - | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
a fascist mostly because he wrote about fascist leaders in Kangaroo | 0:36:26 | 0:36:31 | |
and in a Mexican novel, The Plumed Serpent. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
He is fascinated by the idea, as many people were in the '20s, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:39 | |
of the powerful leader - the authority that really will solve | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
these awful problems we got into with the First World War. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
If someone can show us a way forward that's not like that, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
then that's interesting, and Lawrence explores the subject - | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
to explore something is not to be a fascist. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
In 1925, when he was in a bit of a corner to say | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
what he believed in politically, he said, "If I believe in anything, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
"I believe in a good form of socialism." | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
And that puts it straight. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:08 | |
Lawrence is not a fascist. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
It's easier to understand why Lawrence has been labelled a racist. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
He made rude comments about pretty much every race | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
with which he came into contact, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
none more so than the English. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
However, these outbursts are mitigated by the openness | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
and seriousness with which he engaged with the people | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
and places to which he travelled. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
In the early 1920s, Lawrence developed a growing interest | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
in learning from ancient, pre-Christian civilisations, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
in particular the Native Indians of America. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:50 | |
Lawrence and Frieda came to the small town of Taos in New Mexico, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:59 | |
at the invitation of a wealthy American heiress, Mabel Dodge, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:04 | |
who lived here with her soon-to-be husband, Tommy Luhan - | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
a Native American from the nearby Taos Pueblo tribe of Indians. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
Mabel Dodge Luhan, who was a wealthy heiress, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
who had settled in Taos, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
whose mission was to save the Indians, | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
had read some of his writing about nature | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
and thought only HE could capture the Indians, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
and so they had never met, had no contact with each other, | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
and he said yes, he would come to Taos. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
He arrived here on the day of his 37th birthday in 1922 | 0:38:36 | 0:38:42 | |
and, immediately, Mabel had him ride off | 0:38:42 | 0:38:46 | |
to one of the Indian reservations, and so he was immediately immersed | 0:38:46 | 0:38:50 | |
in the Native American culture and immediately began writing about it. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:55 | |
CHANTING | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
He would go to the formal dances that the Indians held | 0:39:01 | 0:39:05 | |
at their various villages, and he was transfixed by it. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:10 | |
And, in the evenings, they would go to Mabel's house | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
and her husband would bring in his friends. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Lawrence would dance with the Indians. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
He wanted to live and show people an authentic experience with nature, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:32 | |
an authentic experience with sexuality, | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
an authentic experience with spirituality. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
And it was particularly the spirituality that he hoped | 0:39:38 | 0:39:43 | |
to get from the Taos natives. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:45 | |
On 17th May 1924, Mabel Dodge Luhan took Lawrence | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
and Frieda on an expedition up into the mountains | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
to visit an historic Indian site - the Arroyo Seco Cave. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
This impressive, gaping cavern, gave Lawrence the idea | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
for one of his most controversial short stories. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
One of his most important | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
and most misunderstood stories is The Woman Who Rode Away. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
The story is set here in this cave in northern Mexico, | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
which, for thousands of years, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
had been a ceremonial site for the Native Americans. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:28 | |
Earlier times, they had practised rituals, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
possibly even of human sacrifice. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
The Woman Who Rode Away is the story of the white American wife | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
of a mine owner who gives herself to be sacrificed | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
by a tribe of Indians. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
Lawrence used the exact geography here at Arroyo Seco in his story | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
and the ritualised killing takes place on the small ledge | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
at the back of the cave. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
She's living a dead life - pursuing silver - pursuing money. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:07 | |
And her spirit is dead and she decides to ride away from that life. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:13 | |
And she, willingly, without fighting, goes to her own sacrifice, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:19 | |
just as Lawrence dreamed of riding away from his own life. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
He wrote about riding off in the desert and never coming back. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:28 | |
He also wrote about sacrificing his heart to the sun. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
He could understand why somebody would want to sacrifice | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
themselves to the sun. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
CHANTING | 0:41:41 | 0:41:42 | |
"The throng below gave the low, wild cry. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:54 | |
"Then the priests turned her round, so she stood with her back | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
"to the open world, her long blonde hair to the people below." | 0:41:58 | 0:42:03 | |
Lawrence's story has enraged feminist critics, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:15 | |
who interpreted the work as an act of hatred towards women. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:20 | |
Many people have called it a misogynistic story | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
because a woman is sacrificed. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
It's clear in the story that the woman represents Western culture, | 0:42:25 | 0:42:31 | |
and that she is being sacrificed in order for a renewal of life | 0:42:31 | 0:42:36 | |
for all the people, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:38 | |
and that was Lawrence's goal from the beginning, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
and it was the goal of all the modernists. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
They sought out primitives because they felt they still had a connection | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
with the earth that modern people had lost, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
and that needed to be renewed. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
In fact, much of Lawrence's writing about New Mexico, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
and indeed much of his later writing in general | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
with its interest in the environment, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
anthropology and spirituality, has been dismissed or mocked. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:11 | |
I think academia is getting its revenge on Lawrence, the wild man, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
Lawrence, the hairy man, Lawrence, the green man, | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
Lawrence, the scorner of civilisation. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
It's hard to say what Lawrence hated most. Did he hate class the most? | 0:43:24 | 0:43:28 | |
Did he hate the wealthy the most? | 0:43:28 | 0:43:31 | |
Did he hate civilisation the most? | 0:43:31 | 0:43:35 | |
I think you could say that he hated most sophistication. | 0:43:35 | 0:43:39 | |
He believed that humans could recover | 0:43:39 | 0:43:43 | |
and that's the education of the soul in nature | 0:43:43 | 0:43:47 | |
and in gender and sexuality that you see in his books. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:51 | |
Lawrence and Frieda stayed in Taos for three months | 0:43:58 | 0:44:01 | |
before moving up into the mountains, | 0:44:01 | 0:44:04 | |
eventually taking up the offer of a small ranch from Mabel Dodge. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
The Lawrences lived here during the spring and summer of 1924 and 1925. | 0:44:11 | 0:44:17 | |
In those days, it took a whole day on horseback | 0:44:17 | 0:44:20 | |
to ride to and from town. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:22 | |
So, Frieda and Lawrence would stay here more or less permanently | 0:44:22 | 0:44:26 | |
and have people come in and out of town for their supplies, | 0:44:26 | 0:44:31 | |
but they lived here frugally | 0:44:31 | 0:44:33 | |
and they'd made what they could of what animals they had around here. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:39 | |
It offered that sense of nature that was every bit a part of Lawrence. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:45 | |
His mind was free here and he didn't have the problems | 0:44:45 | 0:44:51 | |
with his everyday life that he might have elsewhere in the world, | 0:44:51 | 0:44:55 | |
so that's why he enjoyed living here at the ranch. | 0:44:55 | 0:44:59 | |
Lawrence often talked of the spirit of the place | 0:44:59 | 0:45:03 | |
and it's very much indeed present here. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:07 | |
"Curious as it may sound, it was New Mexico that liberated me | 0:45:09 | 0:45:13 | |
"from the present era of civilisation, | 0:45:13 | 0:45:17 | |
"the great era of material and mechanical development. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:21 | |
"In the magnificent, fierce morning of New Mexico, one sprang awake | 0:45:21 | 0:45:26 | |
"a new part of the soul woke up suddenly | 0:45:26 | 0:45:29 | |
"and the old world gave way to the new." | 0:45:29 | 0:45:32 | |
In many ways, the wandering, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:38 | |
the expedition that Lawrence embarked on | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
with Frieda that summer back in 1912, found its climax | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
and a kind of conclusion here among the ponderosa pine trees | 0:45:44 | 0:45:49 | |
at Kiowa Ranch. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:51 | |
It's really easy to comprehend why Lawrence would have come to Mexico. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:56 | |
When you come west, when you are in this big landscape, you're humbled - | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
it's just so big and so magical. | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
All the elements are visible - | 0:46:06 | 0:46:09 | |
the wind, air, fire and earth - | 0:46:09 | 0:46:11 | |
just when you look out across some kind of vista, | 0:46:11 | 0:46:15 | |
and so that must have been something he would have welcomed | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
and that he obviously responded to in a deep, deep way. | 0:46:18 | 0:46:23 | |
In the end, he found the sincere spirituality | 0:46:25 | 0:46:30 | |
that he had been seeking all his life since his early youth - | 0:46:30 | 0:46:36 | |
a true religious connection with life - with the life forces. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:42 | |
He felt he found it here in New Mexico. | 0:46:42 | 0:46:45 | |
From New Mexico, Lawrence travelled back to Europe, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
where he spent most of the remaining five years of his life in Italy - | 0:46:58 | 0:47:03 | |
the country where he completed his last novel, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
Lady Chatterley's Lover. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
The appeal of Italy - the climate - the cost of living, | 0:47:09 | 0:47:13 | |
it's un-Englishness, was much what it had been 14 years earlier | 0:47:13 | 0:47:18 | |
when he arrived here with Frieda in September 1912, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:22 | |
desperate to complete that novel in his rucksack, Sons and Lovers. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:27 | |
# Oh, ho-ha-ha... # | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
MAN SINGS IN ITALIAN | 0:47:32 | 0:47:35 | |
So, here we are in Gargnano, with this indispensable, | 0:47:44 | 0:47:50 | |
if not entirely reliable, guidebook to help us, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
not only have you got the book but I see you've got a new dress on. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
-I have scrubbed up. -You had that in your rucksack. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
It's self ironing, I take it. | 0:48:00 | 0:48:02 | |
It was carefully packed. | 0:48:02 | 0:48:03 | |
This is done in honour of Frieda who, when they arrived in the first | 0:48:03 | 0:48:08 | |
Italian town, she was looking like a tramp. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
She was in the dress she'd had on for all those nights in haystacks | 0:48:11 | 0:48:16 | |
and she had a dark green Burberry coat, Panama hat with a red ribbon | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
around it, of which the colour had bled into the hat itself. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
-Very fetching. -But they weren't roughing it to the extent | 0:48:23 | 0:48:25 | |
of actually carrying their luggage with them. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:27 | |
They had great trunks that were being sent from Bavaria. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
Once they arrived, then she was able to get into her party frocks | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
-and start feeling like a woman again. -Aha! | 0:48:33 | 0:48:36 | |
-And I'm sure Lawrence was delighted. -Yeah. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:40 | |
# Oh, ho-ha-ha | 0:48:43 | 0:48:45 | |
# Ha-ha, ho-ho... # | 0:48:45 | 0:48:49 | |
So that's a street where Lawrence and Frieda would walk. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:56 | |
Professor Stefania Michelucci is a leading expert on Lawrence's time | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
in Italy, and she's arranged a visit to the Villa Igea, | 0:49:00 | 0:49:04 | |
the apartment where Lawrence and Frieda stayed in Gargnano - | 0:49:04 | 0:49:08 | |
the apartment where Sons and Lovers was finally completed. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:13 | |
In here - this is the first floor of the Villa Igea, | 0:49:13 | 0:49:17 | |
where Lawrence and Frieda lived. | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
They were here for about six months, before going back to England. | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
There is the kitchen, the original kitchen, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:26 | |
although many things have changed now, | 0:49:26 | 0:49:29 | |
where one of his plays was written | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
and set - The Fight For Barbara. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:36 | |
Of course, many things have changed since then. | 0:49:36 | 0:49:40 | |
Yes, difficult to imagine it, isn't it? | 0:49:40 | 0:49:42 | |
With all the modern furniture. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
-Difficult. -The windows in the bedroom were these ones. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:48 | |
-Oh, my gosh! -Yeah. | 0:49:48 | 0:49:50 | |
So that's where he spent so many months. | 0:49:52 | 0:49:55 | |
That's the view they had. | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
-Wow! That is so lovely. -God! | 0:49:59 | 0:50:04 | |
-This is where he got Sons And Lovers polished off. -Exactly. | 0:50:04 | 0:50:07 | |
He completed Sons And Lovers, his first masterpiece. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:10 | |
I couldn't imagine a place more different to where | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
he was writing about. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:14 | |
You don't get much further | 0:50:14 | 0:50:16 | |
from a Nottinghamshire coal village than this. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
-Yeah, it's the opposite pole. -Exactly, exactly. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:22 | |
As far as colours are concerned - light and everything. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:26 | |
Sitting here in the Villa Igea, looking out across Lake Garda, | 0:50:31 | 0:50:36 | |
Lawrence took his mind back to Eastwood... | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
the world of miners, the narrow streets of terraced houses | 0:50:41 | 0:50:45 | |
and the memories of his upbringing. | 0:50:45 | 0:50:48 | |
Today, Sons And Lovers still feels surprisingly modern. | 0:50:50 | 0:50:54 | |
100 years ago, it was ground-breaking writing. | 0:50:54 | 0:50:58 | |
I mean, the two things that must strike anybody | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
who picks up Sons And Lovers | 0:51:01 | 0:51:02 | |
are, firstly, the remarkably intimate portrayal | 0:51:02 | 0:51:08 | |
of a certain form of life that the novel gives us, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:12 | |
and it gives us it in a documentary way. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
So it describes not only a way of life of the mining community, | 0:51:15 | 0:51:21 | |
it describes the language they use and it explains it to us. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:25 | |
It actually glosses that life, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:28 | |
and the second part of the novel | 0:51:28 | 0:51:31 | |
that's very striking is that it tries | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
to get inside the characters' experiences, | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
particularly at moments when they're feeling passion, feeling desire, | 0:51:37 | 0:51:42 | |
feeling most uncomfortable and uncertain about their experiences. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:46 | |
One of the most striking features of Sons And Lovers is its powerful | 0:51:49 | 0:51:53 | |
insight into the minds of its female characters, | 0:51:53 | 0:51:56 | |
an authenticity that was achieved in part thanks to Frieda. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:00 | |
From the beginning of their relationship, Frieda read | 0:52:00 | 0:52:04 | |
and became involved with Lawrence's work, | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
just as his first girlfriend, Jessie Chambers, had done. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
During the final reworking of Sons And Lovers, Frieda helped him | 0:52:12 | 0:52:17 | |
find a new dimension to the women in the book, and also encouraged him | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
to take a more objective view of his story and his relationship | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
with his mother, whose death provides the end point of the novel. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
The fourth and final version of Sons And Lovers | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
was posted off to David Garnett, | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
Lawrence's editor back in England in November 1912, | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
where it was finally published in May the following year. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:46 | |
The book was no great commercial success | 0:52:47 | 0:52:51 | |
but this unusual opportunity to look in on the lives of working people | 0:52:51 | 0:52:56 | |
was widely reviewed and put Lawrence on the literary map. | 0:52:56 | 0:53:00 | |
Lawrence said about Sons And Lovers, I write | 0:53:00 | 0:53:04 | |
because I want folk - English folk - to alter and have more sense, | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
to have them change their view, not only of the working class, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:11 | |
but also of what passion might be, of what sexuality is, | 0:53:11 | 0:53:17 | |
all of those things he wanted to expose people to, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
and that was a very startling thing, I think, for them, | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
and very challenging as well. | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
This is a book which divides its readers. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
Some people are saying, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:29 | |
"This really understands women and children and marriages | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
"better than anything else we ever read. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
"Where has this writer been hiding?" | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
The other side is saying, "This is all rather distasteful. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
"It's all about sex. We're getting far too close to the bone. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
"We don't want this kind of writing, do we now? | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
But Sons And Lovers went on to become arguably Lawrence's | 0:53:46 | 0:53:50 | |
most successful novel in the 20th century - | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
modern, democratic, highly readable and especially popular | 0:53:53 | 0:53:57 | |
with generations of teenagers and students. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:01 | |
Sons And Lovers has a subdued ending. | 0:54:06 | 0:54:09 | |
In the final pages, Paul Morel, an isolated figure, | 0:54:09 | 0:54:13 | |
is deep in mourning for his mother, | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
but the novel concludes with a powerful sense of a young man | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
heading towards the light, about to embark on a new life. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
Looking out of their new bedroom window, Lawrence and Frieda | 0:54:23 | 0:54:27 | |
undoubtedly shared the same optimistic sense of a new beginning. | 0:54:27 | 0:54:32 | |
Lawrence finished Sons And Lovers | 0:54:33 | 0:54:35 | |
and then begins to move on to the next phase of his life. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
There's something really beautiful and moving | 0:54:38 | 0:54:42 | |
and inspiring about the life he makes with Frieda - | 0:54:42 | 0:54:45 | |
living incredibly cheaply, always travelling third class, | 0:54:45 | 0:54:49 | |
often in very, very bad health, | 0:54:49 | 0:54:51 | |
but leading a life of incredible adventure. | 0:54:51 | 0:54:55 | |
In 1930, 18 years after he walked up the Weekleys' garden path | 0:55:03 | 0:55:08 | |
in Mapperley, DH Lawrence died in France of tuberculosis | 0:55:08 | 0:55:13 | |
at the age of only 44, | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
Frieda was at his side. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:17 | |
Appropriately, Frieda interred the remains of her wandering, | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
nature-loving husband, up here at their ranch in New Mexico - | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
the place where she herself was buried 26 years later. | 0:55:27 | 0:55:31 | |
Lawrence's own symbol of the phoenix perches | 0:55:32 | 0:55:36 | |
optimistically on top of the small chapel. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
But the remoteness and inaccessibility | 0:55:43 | 0:55:46 | |
of Lawrence's memorial up at the Kiowa Ranch can't help | 0:55:46 | 0:55:50 | |
but seem symbolic of his continued status as an outsider. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:54 | |
Today, many universities no longer teach the apparently | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
politically incorrect DH Lawrence. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:02 | |
And Sons And Lovers has long ceased to be | 0:56:03 | 0:56:06 | |
a must-read book for every teenager. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:09 | |
The thing that saddens me about Lawrence is that he suffered | 0:56:11 | 0:56:14 | |
so much abuse when he was alive and the fact that he continues | 0:56:14 | 0:56:20 | |
to suffer it seems very harsh, that justice hasn't been done. | 0:56:20 | 0:56:25 | |
He, to my mind, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
is probably the greatest writer of English prose. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:32 | |
The academy has gotten its revenge on Lawrence. | 0:56:34 | 0:56:37 | |
They have peripheralised him. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:39 | |
If you peripheralise even a major artist long enough, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
they will vanish into the mists, | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
they will be dropped from the collective memory, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
and it could happen to Lawrence - it's hard to tell. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
Lawrence has always been divisive. | 0:56:53 | 0:56:55 | |
It's hard to think of a writer who has been loved | 0:56:55 | 0:56:58 | |
and loathed in such equal measure, | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
but, today, perhaps the balance is shifting against him, | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
and his bad reputation - much of which seems undeserved - | 0:57:04 | 0:57:08 | |
is in danger of obscuring one of the most original, vital, | 0:57:08 | 0:57:13 | |
and provocative voices in the language. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
He'd written his books in the way he intended to. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:20 | |
He'd seen it through. | 0:57:20 | 0:57:22 | |
It had cost him dear. You know, he was exiled, | 0:57:22 | 0:57:26 | |
he was ridiculed, he was persecuted. | 0:57:26 | 0:57:29 | |
Even at the time of his death, | 0:57:29 | 0:57:31 | |
he was still seen by some as a meddling pornographer, really. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
But he was true to himself. I think that's what Lawrence is about. | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
He was true to himself. How many of us can say that as writers? | 0:57:40 | 0:57:45 | |
It's very easy to dismiss any of his statements - | 0:57:46 | 0:57:50 | |
any of his ideas on politics, on men, on women, on the human body - | 0:57:50 | 0:57:55 | |
or the relationship between love and lust. | 0:57:55 | 0:57:57 | |
And he would say, "Fine, disagree. | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
"You just do some searching for yourself. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:01 | |
"You work out what's actually going on." | 0:58:01 | 0:58:03 | |
This is what I find really inspiring in him. | 0:58:03 | 0:58:06 | |
It's not the case that I agree with any one of his statements | 0:58:06 | 0:58:09 | |
but I do think that, whilst we're alive, | 0:58:09 | 0:58:12 | |
during our years on earth, you might as well do some living | 0:58:12 | 0:58:16 | |
and actually make a spiritual effort to work out what's going on, | 0:58:16 | 0:58:19 | |
and that's what Lawrence is an example of. | 0:58:19 | 0:58:22 | |
That's what he inspires me to do. He was so, so alive. | 0:58:22 | 0:58:25 | |
I would say he was pro-life. | 0:58:25 | 0:58:28 | |
Not in the political sense, but in the sense | 0:58:28 | 0:58:31 | |
that he...he loved life. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:37 | |
He made you want to be alive. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:39 | |
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